What can i take out of my sway to prevent another chemical? anyone? atomic??

[atomic sagebrush]

No, I'm sorry, I cut and pasted that from another essay. Compressed FR does not have to be an emergency tactic at all.

[deaks66]

Thanks atomic/rainbow, there is so much useful info there! unfortunately i really don't feel i can give up o+12 as i know cut offs don't work for us (tried and tried to get a bfp that way and just doesn't happen) and bd through ov with my ph = boy!! I could consider using refresh through ov as an alternative or aci gel i guess but had just got to the point where i was dropping any kind of creams, gels and lime out of my sway. The compressed FR could definitely be doable though. So would we would literally dtd or release as much as we like running up to ov but it really doesn't matter how much or when and then at o+12 FR once or twice, ditching that lot and then using the next batch?? The only problem i have with that is dh hates releasing and dtd will increase my already stubborn ph right? i think perhaps bd through ov using rephresh or acigel might be more doable but need to think it through! got another few days until my potential start day of abstinence.

Thanks ladies X

[deaks66]

Just so typical that having at last felt happy with my sway after months of dropping various things that weren't working for us and not considering options that bought us our two beautiful boys in the first place, that i am left with a sway that is potentially going to cause further miscarriage....DEPRESSING!!

[zanacal]

{hugs} deaks. I feel really bad for you.

Regarding the compressed frequent release, you only need to DTD once still - DH could release without DTD the previous times and, if he's kind, do it without your involvement! Maybe if you decide to drop the licorice root you could send him off for an 'exciting' hot bath or shower to compensate!

[deaks66]

Thanks zanacal, do you mean we don't have to be dtd lots before ov and can just stick with thinking about our attempt and release once followed by our attempt next? so in effect we could still abstain until attempt day but then do compressed FR that day? that might help as dh works away and LONG hours so we will never get much chance to bd anyway.

[carmella_marie]

I would be careful about supps. I do not take calcium and magnesium and acidophilus anymore because they seem to raise my pH. Also. Cranberry in the 2WW is believed to be linked to m/c, so you might want to use baby aspirin instead. I have found it lowers my pH really well and it helps implantation--always a plus when you're concerned about m/c) and is safe in the 2WW.

[deaks66]

Thanks carmella, no i have never taken cran in the 2ww. I don't think calc, mag and acid have raised my ph as my ph is only high the day or so before and during ov. Either side of that it is 4.1-4.6 which is a lot lower i believe than when i first started swaying.
I think i will take baby aspirin more diligently and also get some vit E and zinc!

[deaks66]

Atomic/Rainbow/zanacal: In terms of the blood sugar levels.... can you confirm are we supposed to stay on the diet for a few days after ov, up till implantation time or for the full 2ww and therefore never really having a break from the diet at all? If its the latter, that will be hard and i may have to relax the diet somewhat to keep it going as i have been on it for so long with only a couple of breaks!

[Inglewood]

Deaks I read that mg can raise ph and like u, my ph was higher at 7 after dtd and leading upto ov, but 5 after ov dtd. It was 3.5 any other time. My dh's ph was high despite cranb etc... So I decided to give him half a mg tab and I think it helped. Is ur dh's ph high? Just a thought for ur combined ph being high. And I made him drink gallons of crystal light that day!!!

I hope you get a good balance of what works well for u and ur body as you deserve that bfp soon!! x

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic/Rainbow/zanacal: In terms of the blood sugar levels.... can you confirm are we supposed to stay on the diet for a few days after ov, up till implantation time or for the full 2ww and therefore never really having a break from the diet at all? If its the latter, that will be hard and i may have to relax the diet somewhat to keep it going as i have been on it for so long with only a couple of breaks!

Yes, that is what seems to be best BUT if you can't keep it up, then just make sure you're sticking to the blood sugar stuff (like skipping breakfast, avoiding snacks, not eating very large meals) for a few days before O, O day, and for a few days after. I would MUCH rather see you cheat during AF than those couple of days after O.

Deaks I'm sorry I know you asked several q's but I have only 5 min here and there so just answering the shorties tonight.