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    Why Some Women Can't Carry a Certain Gender...

    I was just wondering if there was any truth to this? Is there any type of disorder women have where they are unable to carry a certain gender? There has been evidence that male fetuses raise miscarriage risk. I was just wondering if there is any testing for this.

    I found an article that stated this…pretty interesting.
    “… researchers came up with a hypothesis stating that a mothers’ immunization against male HY antigens during the first pregnancy is responsible for the further miscarriages. Only male fetuses produce these HY antigens. They are part of the reason a male develops into a male in the uterus during gestation. During a pregnancy with a male fetus, HY antigens are produced by the fetus and eventually make their way into the mother’s circulation. The mother’s immune system, recognizing these proteins as foreign, will start to produce antibodies against the HY antigens. Later on in other pregnancies, the lingering immunity could cause the mother’s body to reject the fetus. This immunity has been demonstrated up to 22 years after the birth of a boy.”

    However, this article talks about firstborn sons having a negative effect on women with secondary recurrent miscarriages. Since the article mentions a woman’s immune system fighting off the fetus, I wonder if this has anything to do with some women not being able to carry a certain gender. Maybe it's just all a coincidence???

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    It is interesting and while i dont know i do have a friend who had a blood transfusion as a child so she had lots of problems keeping pregnant. She had antibodies that would attack the fetuses and cause her to misscarry 8 times. Funnily enough she has 3 daughters.

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    Makes me wonder...my blood group is A- so I have had a few Anti-D injections during pregnancy and after birth and M/C. I know Anti-D is a blood product because back in 1997 Australia was running short and had to import some from another country that didn't screen the Anti-D for HIV, so I had to sign a waiver to have the injection when I had a bleed during pregnancy. I wonder if I maybe got an antibody from one of those injections...I have had 5 miscarriages, 4 of which the heart just stopped beating at 8-12 weeks. I don't know their gender?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Princess of Pink View Post
    Makes me wonder...my blood group is A- so I have had a few Anti-D injections during pregnancy and after birth and M/C. I know Anti-D is a blood product because back in 1997 Australia was running short and had to import some from another country that didn't screen the Anti-D for HIV, so I had to sign a waiver to have the injection when I had a bleed during pregnancy. I wonder if I maybe got an antibody from one of those injections...I have had 5 miscarriages, 4 of which the heart just stopped beating at 8-12 weeks. I don't know their gender?
    I'm A- too PoP! They gave me a Rhogam shot (which is a blood product) with my first ER visit and a few hours later I was cramping and wiped away some mucus plug.
    Not sure if it had anything to do with it. But I know my babe was a girl.
    My blood was 546 when they tested so it was doing fine! If I could go back I would have never gone to the ER.
    I'm sorry for all of your losses hon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waiting4Daisy View Post
    I have had the Rhogram here in Scotland for all 3 of my pregnancies - all boys. But I think ours are still screened, I'm not sure? I had it 3 times while pregnant with my first, and just the once with the other boys. I am rhesus O neg.
    Thanks for sharing! Yes, I've had it much later in my pregnancies too, I am just hoping that having it so early didn't do anything harmful. I was about 5 weeks, and I didn't know they gave it that early ever.
    I did forget to mention to them that DH is also A-
    They have given it to me just incase each pregnancy, but is that unnecessary?
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    I have a thorough explanation of this issue here in this essay: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/scie...by-gender.html

    the article talking about HY antigens is just speculation/hypothesis. It's intriguing but it's just a theory. As far as we know only the rare genetic conditions (discussed in the essay above) can make it more difficult for a person to carry a boy, and NOTHING that prevents anyone from carrying a girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    I have a thorough explanation of this issue here in this essay: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/scie...by-gender.html

    the article talking about HY antigens is just speculation/hypothesis. It's intriguing but it's just a theory. As far as we know only the rare genetic conditions (discussed in the essay above) can make it more difficult for a person to carry a boy, and NOTHING that prevents anyone from carrying a girl.
    Thanks for the article. There doesn't happen to be a pattern in my family. There's a mixture of gender. It's very interesting though. Even though this is my 2nd child I would still like to get tested as I want to try for a boy. I'm just very curious because some people who have 4 or 5 of the same gender and then try to sway for the opposite end up having miscarriages. Also when I read posts on women going HT for GS, there seems to be more abnormal embryos of the DG.

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    Many people have remarked upon that but we're not totally sure if it's true or not. There are women who have equal numbers or who get more of their DG as well. If it is true, we're not sure why. It may have something to do with the husband's sperm or the woman's environment while her egg is developing (something that can be changed), not her genetics. Also, different doctors use different protocols and HT protocols have been shown to sway gender

    Michelle Duggar had 6 boys in a row and then has since conceived 5 girls - if she had gone HT during the periods she was conceiving one gender over another, for all we know she might have had more abnormal embryos of the other gender at that point but she clearly was able to conceive the opposite, it's just that her body (or Jim-Bob's) was geared up to produce the other right then.

    Re miscarriages - Again, this is something that many have noted but we aren't sure if it's true or not. I ~personally~ believe that some of the sway tactics advised by some of the other sway sites are not healthy and are contributing to increased rates of miscarriage (a situation I am hoping I can rectify on here because I have done away with the dangerous stuff whenever and wherever I can). So the swaying itself may be causing the miscarriages and nothing whatsoever to do with the gender of the baby conceived.
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