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February 4th, 2021, 01:54 PM
#131
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You know, going back and rereading this I'm honestly not clear on what happened and when. Can you give me a rundown of when you had sex and when you think you ovulated (and why)? I find it very unlikely you conceived from one attempt O-5, which means you ovulated sooner or later than you think, and you may have had more than one attempt.
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February 4th, 2021, 03:43 PM
#132
Big Dreamer
Yes so I believe there were multiple times unprotected in the beginning of the month and as it got closer. I think there was a time at o-5 but o-3 is the last time we had protected sex (well pull out probably on o day but I read the chances of that are like incredibly low to get pregnant from pre). So... I’m thinking in my fertile window it was really only like one time... which I guess goes back to my question of why one attempt in fertile window for girls. I know you were encouraging me that our story sounded similar to how you conceived a couple of your boys. Thanks 🤍
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February 5th, 2021, 02:07 PM
#133
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What about before O-5? And what cycle days were these?
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February 5th, 2021, 02:09 PM
#134
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And yes, with two of my boys I had only one attempt with LONNNG cutoffs. My first boy we got literally the first time we had sex, I thought I was safe because I'd just gotten off my period, but nope! And my second boy, we were thinking of trying, but my husband changed his mind many days before I was due to ovulate (I wasn't paying enough attention back then to say for sure, but it had to be CD 10 or earlier, so O-4, UNLESS I ovulated early that month!)
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February 5th, 2021, 04:55 PM
#135
Big Dreamer
Originally Posted by
atomic sagebrush
What about before O-5? And what cycle days were these?
Yes, lots before o-5. I wasn’t tracking those because I knew you couldn’t conceive a week prior to ovulation so i wasn’t concerned. My cycle bumped up this month though. I usually ovulate day 21. It seems to be several at 21 and then once in a while 19. This is the first month I jumped from day 23/26 to day 19 is my guess. According to 24 hours from my first opk I took that was equal to the control. The next day the app said was my peak though. I’ve always thought it was based off the first one and 24-48 hours from that... anyway I’m assuming day 19 since I never ovulated on 20. But who knows... our times unprotected were up until cd16. Several unprotected earlier in the month, i believe there was one cd14, cd16, condom cd17, and pullout on cd19. I mean it doesn’t matter now bc i can’t change anything i was just curious about the one attempt during the fertile window. I mean i basically did that on accident i suppose but there was plenty of unprotected sex as well.
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February 5th, 2021, 11:13 PM
#136
Big Dreamer
I should also mention, the first opk I took, I believe was a positive. I haven’t done opks for a few years so I have no idea how long my surge lasts. Maybe I had a positive even before this?! I’m not sure since I took the first one as soon as they arrived and I expected it to be negative lol.
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February 5th, 2021, 11:26 PM
#137
Big Dreamer
Oh and it was right before bed that I took that first test. Like I mentioned, as soon as Amazon dropped it off lol. I’m not sure if that matters or not
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February 6th, 2021, 03:28 PM
#138
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Well, that's what I'm driving at, is that your fertile window may have been sooner. If you ovulated more on CD 15 you might have had more than one attempt without that long cutoff.
The apps are garbage and the OPK are not reliable because you can get both false positive and false negatives.
I think it's very unlikely you conceived from an O-5 shot. You ovulated sooner, and in that case it's entirely possible you have had more than one attempt.
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February 6th, 2021, 04:22 PM
#139
Big Dreamer
I don’t think I could have ovulated that early though right? I mean I had positive opks immediately but your surge doesn’t last for days and days right?! And you don’t think they can accurately tell you when you’ll ovulate? I know you tell people to intentionally have one attempt at a positive opk so I was just curious. I was thinking I probably conceived from o-3 and still only had “one attempt” in my fertile window because we were trying to prevent as you already know... I suppose I won’t know when I ovulated until my first ultrasound. I just wish we had had more oopses during that “fertile window” vs just the one lol. I know there’s no amount of information that will change anything.... thanks for listening and trying to help me figure out what happened.
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February 6th, 2021, 09:56 PM
#140
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LH surges are variable. Some have a very short burst of LH that triggers ovulation. Some have a long, slow rise that can take days before finally ovulating. Some get a positive OPK after an egg has already released. The level that LH peaks at can vary greatly, too. Some tests for LH have a low positive threshold, others have a higher threshold. Because of all the variables, they can’t really be depended upon to give you an accurate ovulation day on their own.
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