Think I'm out. :(

[1moregirl]

Looking at my chart, maybe I got my O day wrong? It's a bit of a pain in the bottom that I don't have solid cross lines and FF isn't marking my DPO. Too scared to test again so just waiting as long as I can.

[honeybee37]

With me, FF always takes away the cross lines if I record EWCM after ovulation day. Could you try removing the CM data and see if it does it then? Your chart looks good to me

[purple]

The temp on 1dpo is hollow, did you take the temp at a different time? I think your O date looks like it would be correct unless the 1dpo temp was taken much later than normal.

[1moregirl]

Thanks honeybee and Purple. I'll check out what time I took temp at 1DPO. If I don't get a BFP this time I'm wondering also if it could be due to illness with my DH. He has said for the last four months he has been suffering from sore throats, watery eyes and a cough. He says it happens mainly after a few hours of being at his office and by the time he is leaving to come home he is feeling as though he is coming down with a flu or something. He has been working from home a lot and currently having some testing done at the doctor. Could be just plain old hay fever though as some tests showed he has allergy to dust and pollen. He also has to have a CT scan on his chest as an X-ray showed small scarring on lung (which he has known about for years). Or he could just be run down and having a virus. Poor thing. I also have an appointment for Ob/gyn who specialises in fertility on 18th May, so will see what he says when the time comes. I'm kinda passed the point of being disappointed now and am more thinking "what will be, will be." Either way I cannot be disappointed because God has already blessed me with three beautiful healthy children whom I couldn't possibly love and adore any more than I already do. Just a pity one of your kids can't stay as a baby forever.....Hehehehe! Anyway, I've accepted that I'm out and I'm not going to test again as I've found it too disappointing and I get eye strain from staring at the test. If I am indeed not pregnant though, Mother Nature will sure have been tormenting me after giving me a promising looking chart and a few symptoms that made me excited.

[atomic sagebrush]

Let's see what tomorrow brings.

[nicoler]

I worked in a busy andrology lab for a few years and have probably done over a thousand semen analysis'. From what I've seen, guys sperm *typically* doesn't change all that drastically over a few years unless they've started steroids (or other strong meds), been on chemotherapy or have some other pretty drastic medical issues (ie. paralysis, etc.). Although there are always exceptions, I suppose. Has your DH started any new prescription meds in the past few years? Your DH has proven fertility. In fact, I would probably put money on the fact that your DH's semen parameters fall within the normal range. I would not hassle him, or stress in any way that his sperm is faulty due to work stress, allergies, etc. I know you are looking for something to fix, but really, it just comes down to catching the right egg!

[atomic sagebrush]

[1moregirl]

I worked in a busy andrology lab for a few years and have probably done over a thousand semen analysis'. From what I've seen, guys sperm *typically* doesn't change all that drastically over a few years unless they've started steroids (or other strong meds), been on chemotherapy or have some other pretty drastic medical issues (ie. paralysis, etc.). Although there are always exceptions, I suppose. Has your DH started any new prescription meds in the past few years? Your DH has proven fertility. In fact, I would probably put money on the fact that your DH's semen parameters fall within the normal range. I would not hassle him, or stress in any way that his sperm is faulty due to work stress, allergies, etc. I know you are looking for something to fix, but really, it just comes down to catching the right egg!

Nicoler - thanks for that message. That was soooo helpful and insightful. DH hasn't been taking any new medications. He doesn't take any at all so he's very lucky. He's only been taking the OLE. I guess maybe I really did just fluke it last year when I got pregnant first try in June. And maybe my egg quality has diminished since then. I don't know. I'd been taking ubiquinol and everything though so I thought all of that would help I suppose. This next cycle I will def try to get in two attempts in the fertile window at least I think. Maybe every 4 days of BD just reduces DHS sperm count too much? Some days I even punish myself with thoughts that this is my penalty for being a bit sneaky in getting pregnant last year. I'd gone to sooo much trouble and all on my own to get pregnant and then maybe taking the zofran or overdoing things caused my miscarriage (like I ruined the pregnancy I'd worked soooo hard to achieve) and now after the D & C I'll be left infertile. I haven't mentioned anything to DH about his sperm quality or anything like that because he has enough on his plate with his current health issues. Thanks for listening to me waffle on and for all your advice Nicole and Atomic and other ladies. My BBt this morn dropped to 36.77 and I'm 12DPO. I can't bring myself to do any more HPTs.

[MrsGoodies]

1moregirl,

(((HUGS)))

I'm so sorry this cycle didn't work out

I know the pain & doubt after emergrncy D&C all too well. My hemoglobin was at 80 afterwards (normal is 140)...it took me months to recover & get DH to let me do one more hi tek try....they even put 2 day 5 blast girls in me and they didn't take and then my paranoia REALLY set in about how it must be from the d&c... I was so depressed ...and then i decided to lose weight and go on a girl diet and I didnt give two figs if I got pg or not (in fact my mental state was that it was such a long shot so I was just enjoying the BD and not thinking of it....and bam! 3 months after I thought it was over I got pg wth my girl!

I've had the same crazy thoughts as you. I blamed myself for not taking progesterone and staying on the diet too long after bfp which caused the miscarriage...but testing showed it was just a bum egg. Nothing I did or didnt do.

Now everytime I see a pg woman i think about how far along I should be....

I think taking a laid back approach like you are doing will help alot. ...Plus we get to be cycle buddies next month! yay! We just need to find that golden egg...

[1moregirl]

thanks Mrs Goodies. And I couldn't believe how exciting my chart had looked for a while there. Plus I thought I had some symptoms (amazing what tricks our minds can play on our bodies and/vice versa) - I think in the 2WW our mind is soooo desperately wanting to be pregnant that it somehow persuades our bodies into producing symptoms (which can of course be usual 2WW symptoms according to hormones, or impending AF). Anyway, it's just sooo hard because I will be turning 45 in October of this year and I don't want to be going to trying to conceive for long. Part of me keeps telling myself I'm too old now and I should just give up. I could have another miscarriage conceive a baby with serious things wrong with it. I need to find peace that it just might not happen for me again - another baby, that is. And do what you did and have more regular sex again and just enjoy it. I'm almost tempted to ditch BBT altogether as well.