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    Cd6 / clomid? / femara?

    Hello!!

    We are ttc baby #7

    We lost baby 6 this past January at 8weeks pregnant

    I turned 40 a couple months later in March

    I’m nursing two babies - one is 2.5 the other 15 months

    I’m cd6 and we have been ttc since feb with no success

    I retained hcg for what seemed like forever- and didn’t get my post mc af until the end of feb.

    Feb period I passed tissue
    March I passed tissue as well

    Scans were all clear

    Should I count feb/March as attempt cycles? Or am I in less distress then I’m fearing?

    Also - I was considering starting clomid this cycle but chickened out


    Edit to add - my ob just called in clomid for me and said I can start it today cd6 and do my progesterone on cd22 instead of cd21 but being 40 is it too risky? Or being newly 40 can I try a cycle and see what happens?
    Thanks for any advice
    Last edited by Rf1927; May 28th, 2021 at 05:23 PM. Reason: Update

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    About my cycles

    Normally my cycles are longer - 34ish range

    They have been a little shorter following the loss BUT each cycle they have lengthened by a day and I知 around 33 days now and my peak opks have been closer to my old normal

    In March I peaked way early for me at cd14 this month it was cd19

    My periods are heavier- always have been and so I don稚 really feel it has much to do with fertility for me.

    The only thing different with the loss baby was we got a hot tub and my husband was in it constantly - I didn稚 know it messes with sperm! He doesn稚 use it anymore lol

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    What we do

    First couple cycles we were like rabbits hellbent on best chances to conceive - I think it was overkill

    All my babies were the result of minimal attempts.

    So last cycle we switched to every other day - still nothing

    I use opks
    Temping made me nuts but I did have a temp shift that looked good in March

    This cycle I知 going to cut back on the obsessive peeing lol and I知 checking for saliva ferning

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    My meds:

    I知 taking labatelol since my 2nd baby gave me pre e
    Low dose aspirin
    400mg of ubiquinol
    Smarty pants prenatal

    Husband reluctantly takes a daily vit but he doesn稚 always remember 🙄 (he痴 41)

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    Can anyone advise on clomid at newly age 40?

    I know I read it can be tricky for the over 40 crowd

    Do I try to get in a few cycles or pass?

    Thanks

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    If your HCG was up, you shouldn't count those as cycles.

    Many women seem to be able to tolerate the Clomid ok. If your OB has tested your FSH in the past and it's on the lower side for your age it is probably fine to try it for a month or two. I would not do it the full 6 months without a break after 3, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rf1927 View Post
    My meds:

    I’m taking labatelol since my 2nd baby gave me pre e
    Low dose aspirin
    400mg of ubiquinol
    Smarty pants prenatal

    Husband reluctantly takes a daily vit but he doesn’t always remember �� (he’s 41)
    Is there a reason why you're taking the aspirin?? Under the guidance of a doc for the pre-e? Did you continue it during pregnancy?

    Do you feel the periods have gotten heavier since you started the aspirin??

    Yes, having sex too much can indeed cut odds of conception. We need to have attempts at the RIGHT time, so you're peaking with the fertile window. SMEP is a good plan to follow as long as you have no gender preference: https://thespermmeetseggplan.com/

    Weirdly, every other day thru the cycle is not that great a way to conceive. This is because while EOD can help make a lot of healthy sperm, you're often ending up with only one viable attempt in the fertile window. To give you an example, you can end up with attempts either O-7, O-5, O-3, O-1 (O-7 and O-5 would absolutely be too early, and we are seeing very poor chances of conception O-3 as well, this leaves you with one viable attempt on O-1) or O-6, O-4, O-2, and O Day. (O-4 and O-6 are too early, and many times O Day is too late, leaving you just with the O-2 attempt.) This is why I recommend different patterns like the SMEP I mention above. We need you to be in with more than one attempt in that fertile window, particularly O-1, O-2, and early on O Day.

    The hot tub probably did not have anything to do with your loss. While some people believe that heat can damage DNA, the real problem with hot tubs is that heat kills sperm, so you wouldn't conceive after using a hot tub, but it doesn't mean that bad sperm are going to then go on to cause losses. Men make a LOT of sperm and even when studies show more DNA damage, in most cases not all of them are affected. When there is that kind of severe damage, people just don't conceive.

    Saliva ferning has not worked real well for us. What I would do is do an OPK just ONCE a day (after lunch) and then if it's starting to get dark you can go to 2x a day (after lunch and before dinner). That way you're not obsessively peeing, LOL, but you can still tell what's going on.
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    Thanks so much atomic!!!

    I知 doing e4d
    So far: Sunday / Weds / Saturday

    I知 getting fertile mucous and will test with opk today to see if I知 gearing up to a positive

    I usually get my first pos opk around cd16-cd18 I知 currently cd14

    My periods have always been heavy for a day or two and then it just lingers for days after that - usually lasting 10 days in total - with the last 4/5 days being very light almost like spotting but no break between period and spotting

    My ob always said it was a sluggish flow that just took longer for my body to expel

    My heavy day(s) is heavy tho - I use a period cup so I can track it
    So it makes sense to me that with such a heavy flow it may linger for a few days lol

    The aspirin my ob said to take during the last pregnancy and when I lost the baby she said to stay on it but I値l be honest I致e been skipping it worried that it was exacerbating my flow

    We dtd this morning cd14 - should I start with every other day now and add an extra at pos opk?

    Thank you ❤️❤️

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    I知 sure we can get another attempt in tonight or tomorrow morning if thats not too soon since our attempt this morning ..

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    Oh, ok. If you want a better chance of conception I would add in one more attempt at positive OPK and then continue with the e4d pattern all along (so just add in another attempt whenever the pos OPK falls, and if it falls the same day you're due for attempt have two that day or one the next day, but continue with the e4d all along)

    I'm not a huge fan of taking aspirin without a darn good reason. It absolutely has risks and side effects and it without a doubt makes periods heavier for many people. It's one thing if you need it for preeclampsia but just staying on it indefinitely does not seem like great advice for someone with a 10 day flow! (even spotting that long is very irritating!) While some people with blood clotting disorders benefit from aspirin, some evidence even seems to indicate that taking aspirin during pregnancy when not needed may cause MORE losses. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...scarriage.html Proceed with caution and you may only want to take it 3x a week rather than daily.

    If your husband can "go" every other day plus one more at positive OPK yes absolutely. If he is struggling with that go to the e4d in the 72 hour pattern (just as you're doing it so far) and then add in the additional attempt at pos OPK.
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