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Thanks guys so much :hugs: I think my tantrum today may have been my sign that I was about to O :oops:
I tend to get pms right before I O...lol. I just can't be normal can i :rofl:
And to top off my day...I'm gonna O in a New Moon AND a girl sign..... :rofl: Just my luck!
Fantastic, POP! And I love that you've adopted the 'bad boy' terminology ;)
Pop, good luck! I hope this is it and you can be done with your attempt!
I hope this is your month PoP and Cinss
Bec-hopefully your dr can get AF started so you can get the ball rolling :)
Good luck POP!!! :bluesperm::fx:
I have pretty much written off this cycle and have no hope that I will get a BFP. I need some help understanding what is happening.
Last night at about 9pm I did a normal 2 line test and both lines came up equally as dark which according to the box that is a positive....yet my digi test was negative.
This morning the test line was darker than the control line with both FMU and at 10am (which according to the box is definitely positive).....but digi test was still negative.
I tested again at 3pm with the 2 line tests and now the test line is a bit lighter than the control. If I wasn't doing the digi tests I would be 100% sure I had ovulated. Has anyone ever O'ed and yet not got a smiley face? Could maybe it be a surge but I haven't O'ed yet and I can expect it in a few days time?
DH is kinda over it this month and not too keen to keep trying. He made some comment about it shouldn't take so many attempts in a row and we should be able to pinpoint it more accurately. (I'm bloody trying!!) And we have been doing it daily for about 6 days now...too much longer and we are heading towards FR girl territory!!
I am going to my Dr next week and getting a script for Clomid....gonna tell him I have been trying for a year. See if that helps me O on time and a bit more predictably.
He should be loving all this lovin' ;)
PoP, The cheapie OPKS have always been the best thing for me. When I try digitals they don't show until awhile afterwards! And I am talking days later for HPT digitals! I've never tried an expensive OPK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess of Pink
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU OED!!! Since the line is lighter now..
I also got an almost positive OPK tonight! yay and I have TONS of pressure!! :)
We are going to be in the 2WW together it seems!
PoP, I've never used a digi for OPKs but going on the two line OPKs, surely you must have had a surge if they were positive? Plus you had all the other signs.
Do you have a doctor that will prescribe you Clomid? All the GPs I have ever seen won't prescribe it, they refer on to a ob/gynae or fertility specialist.
Pop i havent ever used the smiley tests your talking about but it sounds like they may not be as sensitive? Although you would expect the more expensive ones to work better. That is weird unless they turn positive on O day. Did you use them last cycle to compare what happened? I still think you have a great shot this time dont count yourself out yet you should see the temp rise any day now. So whats the deal with clomid, is that meant for women who dont ovulate? My friend is going to get on it soon she is in the 2ww atm but been trying for over a year now, her doctor told her the opks dont confirm O just the presence of LH and made her feel silly for relying on them.
Cinss, Clomid is generally used by women with annovoluatory or irregular cycles. The doctor your friend saw is right, OPKs only indicate if you are having a surge not whether the surge will actually cause ovulation. I think the majority of people that get a LH surge will ovulate though so I don't know why the doctor would make your friend feel silly for using them.
I used to get a lot of false positive OPKs on Clomid as well so if you don't have monitoring when you take Clomid it can sometimes be hard to predict what CD O will be on.
Thanks bec, yeah maybe it was my assumption of what her doc said by the way she was telling me kind of like "oh by the way those strips dont work like you think they do, my doctor told me so".
PoP-if the two line test was positive then I would say its positive, I wouldn't worry about the smiley face, maybe the two line test is more sensitive. I used the smiley face ones and one month it gave me a false positive so maybe you had a couple bad ones. Guys can be so stupid, your DH should be happy he's getting some I mean jeez they complain when they don't get any now he's getting a lot he should be happy
I think you have a great chance this month, you have a great number of attempts in :)
Pop I wonder if the digi tests were just funky? I had a similar thing happen the month I conceived. I had my Wondfo tests go from the two lines being equal one day, the next day the test line was DARKER, and then the next day negative; all the while, I was also using a box of some other brand of OPKs (can't remember the brand, but it was a reputable one like Clear Blue Easy or something) and they NEVER got positive. I think the box was just crappy, because I obviously ovulated! I would go with the test that gave you a positive. Hope that this is your month!!
Popping in to say hello! Been crazy here but dying to know what's up with you ladies! Who's in the 2ww, who's about to attempt besides POP? I don't want to read back the 40 pages I've missed :bigsmile:
FX POP!!
Pop I think the 2 lines is a good sign... I haven't used the smiley test but my Clearblue monitor sometimes didn't trigger until after the OPK had already picked up a surge. I would watch your temps and see what they do.
Remember this is your no-stress go round ;) sorry about your DH being grumpy about all the lovemaking... Just tell him to enjoy it while it's hot!!!!
I think you have gotten some good attempts in this cycle :)
Hi 3P1B, we were wondering where you have been :) I am in the 2ww atm, so boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Pink1Blue
GL to all in the TWW!!!
Thanks for all your support ladies. Still got positive on the line tests but neg on the digi. Temps still really low so I haven't oed yet?? No idea what's happening!!
Hi 3P1B! The new pic of Charlie is super cute--he's getting so big!
pop you may O today and get temp rise tomorrow.
Keep testing pop the digi will smile for you soon!!!!!
Hello :) Sounds like you have been a very busy mama. The pic of Charlie in the other thread is very cute!Quote:
Originally Posted by 3Pink1Blue
I'm sort of in limbo at the moment. AF is taking her sweet time to arrive!
So I sort of got some answers today. I have a collection of blood in my uterus but my doc doesn't really know why I haven't bled. He said it could just be sticking to the uterine wall. He did some sort of procedure with a spec and big long tube into my uterus to release the blood (gross, I know!) and I've started bleeding, finally!! I have to go back on Thursday for another u/s and hopefully I can start Clomid again on Friday.
Thank goodness Bec, now you can get the ball rolling
Bec so excited you can get the ball rolling!
PoP for what its worth I really thought my Dec. cycle was a bust because my regular OPK (not an internet cheapie, but a first response) was faintly negative the day before I knew I was going to O. Then after I O'ed, my temps did not rise much at all, making me think the cycle was anvoluntnary because it didn't go up much at it...it was 97.3 or 97.5 vs my usual 97.1 and then three days after O it was back down to 97.2. I was heartbroken, but was so sure I had O'ed on Dec. 25th mostly because of my interest in sex and the way my body felt down there, though the OPK and my temps told a different story.
I def. think you are not out until you see AF again!
Cniss, I agree with you conculsion that changing your diet and adding all the supps a few months ago may have "confused" your body and it may take a little more time for the confusion to wear off. What TTC'ing girl did to me was make me O earlier than usual the two months I was TTC'ing. I used to O on day 14 like clockwork, but while TTC'ing girl and reducing meat and eating nonfat, lowfat diary it put me at day 11 and 12.
Gosh Bec, that's really interesting! I'm glad he figured it out.
Bec, despite the ick factor I'm so glad he was able to get AF going for you!
I am super excited that you are finally back on the TTC bus Bec!! Fantastic :hugs:
As for me I am starting to think I am not going to O this cycle just like I had originally feared. I changed my FF to say + opk the days I get them with my line tests but I just don't think it's gonna happen to be honest. I am just having no luck. I either don't get enough attempts in prior to O...or when I do I either don't O or O really late and miss it with just an attempt after the +. Like my body is trying to make me keep missing it. My temps are still super low and no sign of rising.
Maybe today will be the day you O, since you have your cervix at HSOQuote:
Originally Posted by Princess of Pink
Yay Bec your back in the game. I wonder how long you were going to hold that blood for if there was no intervention? Maybe your body thought you were still pregnant.
Pop so weird with your temps, i was expecting a rise for you today for sure. But remember Flava got preggers when FF didnt give her a confirmed O either, maybe you will get a surprise, all of the other signs look good, just the temp is out of wack. Maybe inspect your thermometer, see if it is working properly.
And if it makes you feel any better, my chart was perfect last month and here i am still trying, and this cycle looks great on paper too, but you know i just have the feeling it isn't going to happen this time either.
Great news Bec xx
POP hang in there, just DTD as often as you can to cover your bases!!!
ITA, POP....sometimes you can surge and it doesn't quite trigger ovulation, and then your body will try again. Keep dtd and tell your DH to shut it! I know it's hard....we are dtd every other day and last night was a real stretch to get it done. My DH asked if I was asleep in the middle of it! I know those opks can be frustrating.....I am having a time with it now, too. I have never used the digis either, only Wondfo cheapies, but they usually work if I am testing on urine that is not diluted. I have to try not to drink much those days.Quote:
Originally Posted by TTC5
Bec, WOW that sucks that you had to have your AF induced that way, but hey, whatever helps, right? Glad you are track to try again this month. Are you doing 100mg Clomid?
Oh, and I wanted to add about the Clomid discussion- I took it for 3 months last year. My doc thought I was ovulating, but wanted to see if it made a difference with a "better egg" coming out (this was before we knew it was male factor), and I took the lowest amount, 50mg. I definitely ovulated a day early (CD13) each month, and could feel it big time. I don't really see anything wrong with trying the low dose for a month or two, but do have your doc prescribe it and make sure they are monitoring you a bit.
In fact, I may need to take it again soon for a different reason. I don't feel like I am ovulating anymore. I'm gonna make a post about it to get a variety of responses, but my cycle has been really weird the last two months with the constant brown spotting and the pain thing that I got a few times. And now I'm CD13 and not a trace of a line on the opks (it's been a pretty constant CD14 ov day for a while now). I have zero cm and don't feel like I'm going to ovulate at all. ARGGGGGGGG.....last thing I need are my eggs going bad while we save up for IVF!!!!!
Big hugs Lola...it's horrible when your body isn't doing what it is supposed to.
Can I ask a dumb question......what happens if you don't O? When does AF come? How does it know to come?
Lola - Could it be stress?
Bec - Great news :)
Probably, Foxy. I have been abnormally stressed lately, plus eating very little and working out a lot to lose weight. I am hoping that is the reason, although I don't plan to stop trying to lose weight this summer. Hopefully it will normalize. Got a doc's appointment in another month, so I guess I'll have her check up on me then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy
That is not a dumb question at all.....it looks like from FF charts that sometimes they are just long cycles and AF naturally comes, and sometimes it needs to be induced. I remember reading that your body can sometimes gear up to ovulate a few times in a cycle, but if there is not enough estrogen to trigger the LH surge that triggers ovulation, you can have times where you almost ovulate, and you can have ewcm and all, but your body just doesn't juice you with quite enough hormones. Sometimes your body will try to ovulate again, but sometimes it just gives up and your body decides it is time for progesterone and you go into your luteal phase and then have AF. I hope this isn't what is happening with you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess of Pink
At some point your body gives up, estrogen drops and when that happens, your body thinks it's ok to slough off your uterine lining. It's not a "real" AF because you didn't ovulate, and so your body can't really produce progesterone (because it's the empty hole that the egg came from, the corpus luteum, that makes progesterone.) It's generally kinda different than your normal AF - it can be lighter, heavier, shorter, longer, come at any time in your cycle. Whereas if it's pretty normal flow and happens when you expect it, it's probably AF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess of Pink
Normal AF happens when progesterone drops because you're not pg and your corpus luteum only lasts for 10-14 days without a signal from an implanted egg that you're pregnant, so the CL stops making prog and when prog drops, then you get AF. That's how doctors trigger AF - they give you a big shot of progesterone and so your prog levels rise and then drop sharply, and this tricks your body into thinking it's time for AF.
Nutshell version - if you didn't O, you get bleeding from estrogen dropping too low to sustain lining. If you DID O but didn't conceive, you get AF when progesterone drops too low to sustain lining.
There is also something called breakthru bleeding that can be caused by estrogen that's too high (when you're on BC pills, for example, but some herbs may cause it and so can menopause) Your lining gets SO thick that it sloughs off of its own accord and this can cause really annoying spotting that can hang around for ages afterwards.
pop did you check if your thermometer is working correctly? I think you may have O'd on cd23 or cd24? You are either going to have a freakish long cycle like 38 days or AF may just come in about 8 days which could mean you did have an unovulotory cycle :(