:sad: That does suck, hun. I can only imagine how empty that must have felt....I'm so sorry!
BUT if it makes you feel any better, I can't fit into my FAT and MATERNITY shorts now!!!!
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:sad: That does suck, hun. I can only imagine how empty that must have felt....I'm so sorry!
BUT if it makes you feel any better, I can't fit into my FAT and MATERNITY shorts now!!!!
LOL! I actually had brunch yesterday with another couple and the wife was like, wow, you look way different with lipstick! Guess I need to make an effort a leeeetle more often. I pretty much live in running shorts (oh how I miss you, running) and tops. Elastic waists hide a multitude of potatoes!
This is DD's last week of preschool and they have packed it full of celebrations and parties and I have had no time to hang out here. Crazy thing, I have had LOADS of EWCM this cycle! It started Saturday and my OPKs are still only near positive, not full +, but I think the EWCM might be going away. I swear every cycle my EWCM leaves the day or two before I O. Why can't they hold hands and be together?!? Ah well. I am having a hard time waiting to TTC lately. Part of me just wants to get it over with, LOL!
What the heck is lipstick? :) You miss running???? What a horrible thing to say! I hate running. If I had to run away or die, get that coffin ready.
Just DTD when you have EWCM and get those sperm waiting for the egg, yo! If you are that close to O, just go for it, right!?
I agree DTD when you get that beautiful ewcm!!!
Ugh. I am always hitting the wrong button to reply.
BFN and 12 DPO. I think I am out. I usually have 13 day LP's so we will see. I got a positive FRER on 12 DPO with DD.
So, I want to discuss timing, as I think only dtd the once per cycle is not good- I like the dtd every 48 hour idea, except that you might totally end up with an O-2. For eg. dtd the one night, and if the next, you get a +opk, you don't want to dtd that night because it would only be 24 hours- so you dtd the following night (which is likely O day and you miss it entirely). That is the one thing that scares me about dtd every 48 hours.
My cycles aren't predictable, sometime I O on cd13, sometimes cd17 (or anywhere in between).
Thanks Lola. so my plan is to DTD cD 12 and 14. what do u think?
We are totally in the same situation! Fingers crossed for both of us this month. I am attempting 21 and 23. I am confused as to whether attempt on first night of +opk or second. I am going to do first as I dont want to miss ovulation completely
So I am going to DTD Cd11 and 13 (+opk days 13 and 14 usually).
iluvmyman- Thanks for that yes i have heard of ural i actually have some here hmmmm might drink1 uraul one ASG per day- I was hoping the diet/supplements would raise my ph a little and then i could use the other stuff to raise it more but when i tested my cm at 'o' just gone using a diva cup to collect i was supper bummed when it hasn't risen at all. So I am wondering how much of these drinks it is 'normal' to need to drink to raise it...so i at least have a reasonable starting point IYKWIM.................
Spicy, that is the hard thing about timing....if you are unpredictable (like I am), sometimes you just gotta give it your best guess as to when you might be at 0-2....what I have done before, and plan to do in the future, is when my opk is just darn near + but not a true positive (I get several days of fade-ins), then we dtd, with the hopes that late the next day, it is truly +, meaning then we dtd the following day, which would likely be O day.
Sometimes it is really hard to predict, which is why the SMEP/Deanna's plan works very well. It may not necessarily be optimum boy sway timing, but I don't think the timing matters as much as the way your body is when you have sperm meet egg. But, that is up to everyone's individual belief about it.....many gals on our old thread (who now have baby boys, mind you), just dtd once on O day, and some dtd two days in a row right around O (like day before and day of, or day of O and day after even), and some dtd every day for like 3 days. In fact, just to make you feel better....and I know I've written this before, so sorry if I'm repeating....but a few of us got obsessed with getting the timing down, particularly the unpredictable O girls. We checked out FF charts with "pregnant with boy" in the keywords, and it appeared that there was ALL sorts of dtd sequences, but one thing they all had in common was dtd on O day for sure. Most of them, in fact, dtd two days in a row, O-1 and O day. I think it is best to try to have a 48 hour gap, so I would *try* to do that if you can, but the SMEP plan gets people pregnant, that is for sure, so not a bad timing sequence to follow.
http://www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm
Of course, I am a bit more laid back about the timing....I just want to get pregnant, and since I'm 35, don't want to mess around with it too much. I have faith that if I do the diet and supps solidly for 6 weeks and get pg, that I have a better chance at a son than a daughter....but also I don't care if I get another girl at this point, because it ain't as easy for me as it used to be!
I was reading on some other thread yesterday about that very thing....some lady has the same issue, and Atomic said that the ewcm is still in there on O day, it just come out in bunches beforehand. She said to still dtd as you would for boy/girl as far as timing goes and not worry about it. You *could* theoretically dtd when you have the ewcm and probably still be ok for a boy, though (although I wouldn't do that) because the ewcm will keep the sperm good and healthy. Actually, when you think about it, that is not bad at all because if you dtd 0-2 and O, you know you'll have good ewcm the whole time to keep em sturdy.
Ok, ladies I think our day to dtd is either tomorrow or Thursday! We've been on this crazy boy diet for 6 weeks, and even though our ph numbers are good, they're not fantastic, but we're going to take a shot at it. I hope we get a BFP fist attempt (wouldn't be unusual). You ladies who have been doing this for months are my hero! Wish me luck!!
I was going to DTD on CD14, not 13. I think I do have 2 days of + opk's too. Last cycle was the 1st time I've tracked w/ OPK's and I had the 2 days. I'm just hoping I'm still on a 28 day cycle. Better early than late so I'm not sure. If we DTD on CD12 then there might even be sperm waiting and CD13 or CD14 might not matter. I guess then on each attempt we should do the ew, bsf, caffeine and whatever else, like do 2 full go's I guess.
I'm doing the URAL: 1 packet 3x's per day since I'm running low but will up that to 2 packets 3x's per day depending on how much I have closer to O. You are supposed to take the URAL AF-O only. What was the ASG again?
Here's Atomic's link to the drink which might help. I'm just doing the URAL at this point. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...ndly-beverages
Do you remember what your PH was when you tested at O, last time? Did you do the URAL then?
Hi girls =)
How is everyone? So I am now just waiting for AF she could start in a few days and then I am starting my urals just in case we do try in July!! I just ordered some preseed too :)
I have not been as strict with my diet as I first started off but going by my body (weight gain, pimples and finally I am more cm down there LOL) I figure things are changing enough for a good sway??
Do u think you are risking o+12 dtd CD 14?? i dont know what to think about timing. when we conceived our son we dtd
cd 13 and 14 so totally goes against boy timing by dtd 24 hours apart. I guess early is better?!? Now u have me thinking if i should do days 12 and 14 instead.
which post are u going by??
Hi ladies!
FX for you hope.ful! A 1st time BFP would be great for you and great for our group b/c we need a BFP to celebrate :-)
Lola thanks for the advice from Atomic re: EWCM before O; I thought I remembered reading the same thing so now I'm sure of it. It's crazy. I had some more this am but am thinking it might be gone. But still no +OPK. I was expecting to O Thursday before all the crazy EWCM showed up, then I thought I'd O early ... but now I'm thinking maybe it won't be early after all! My TTC plan is the O-2 and O day plan though so I should be able to catch some good EWCM with the O-2 attempt. When we do attempt. September feels forever away. And it might even be October before we try.
Spicy I'm super bummed for you. FX the next attempt is it for you! Iluv when is yours? And yours, Princess?
TTC5 how is your daughter doing? I was just thinking about that for some reason and hoping all is well with her now.
I want someone to get a BFP!!!! And I want Skrimpy to have her baby girl and show us pictures :-) And I want a pony. Since I'm just listing it all right now ;-)
Start w/ your post on pg 48. OK, here's Atomic's sticky on timing that I'll review and you can too if you get a chance and we'll touch base.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...nd-girl-Part-1
Ready......GO!
Me and Princessp are debating timing right now and I need to read Atomic's post just to be clear re: DTD on CD 13 or CD14 if you are obviously on a 28 day cycle. MFC, answered this but now I'm confused...again :sigh:and need to make sure....again. At this point I will be doing protected BD in the am tomorrow (CD8) Then again on Sunday the 22nd (CD12) & again on Tues. the 24th (CD14) The debate is DTD on CD11 & CD13 or CD12 & CD14. Begonia, I assume we do the full EW's Caffeine etc. on both boy attempts, right?
You just need to pipe it and do this with me this month, Begonia. Come on, you know you want to!! We seriously need a BFP this month and I, Iluvman, will volunteer for a BFP this month. That's right, I will sacrifice myself on the sword or pregnancy......for you! :)
[QUOTE=begonia;35039]Hi ladies!
Lola thanks for the advice from Atomic re: EWCM before O; I thought I remembered reading the same thing so now I'm sure of it. It's crazy. I had some more this am but am thinking it might be gone.
I think I just read that stuff here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...ut-when-to-dtd
Post#3 by Atomic
OK, here is a link when I was talking to Atomic about this http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...Cut-offs/page2
I think either way on the CD's 13 or 14 we'll be OK.
Iluv, your selflessness knows no boundaries. Thank you for being so bold as to volunteer to be a BFP for our group this month :-) LOL! I hope you are!!! If you know you O CD14, I would DTD (the whole shebang, with EW's, caffeine and such) on CD12 and CD14. But I do agree, I think either way 11/13 or 12/14 you're in great shape for TTC boy. Hooray for some attempts coming up soon!
I would LOVE to join in this month! But DH is a firm no on that. I try to let him think he has some weight in the decision so ... ;-) We'll wait. But now I'm wondering if I did in fact miss my O? All that EWCM is gone this am, and still no +OPK! Going to keep testing til CD14 (Friday) because in a normal cycle I usually get a +OPK on the pm of CD13. So ... maybe it is still to come? But my OPK's were getting darker and darker but not +, and then this morning it was lighter! So I'm actually glad we aren't ttc this month b/c I'd have no clue what to do.
I agree- no BFPs this month? How many of us are active ttc? I am 13 dpo bfn and temps are dropping. The good news is that my LP is a good length. When I was bfing it was 7 days. It will come ladies! I am still debating about dtd eod. I don't want to miss it! I only have 4 more shots!
I think dtd the evening of the OPK makes sense, to make sure the sperm are prepared for the eggs release. They go to sleep in the fallopian tubes and are woken by a chemical messenger when the egg releases. If you wait until the next day- you may not give them enough time to make it up the tubes.
Absolutely. I am only 26, so age is not an issue, but I only have 4 more cycles to try, then we have to stop because of job situations. Very few sperm make it to the end, and if you dtd only once, very few might make it. But if you have VERY fertile ewcm, then dtd twice seems to cover you. I am, in the end, not going to worry too much about timing either. Just give it my best shot!
I have seen the FF boy charts too- and they basically show people trying a lot around O time. Seems to make sense.
Here is the thing....you definitely want to take opks to track your ovulation....do NOT just go by the days CD13 and 14, assuming you will O then! Honestly, if I were you guys, I would take the opks and when they look almost positive, go for it. Or, if you have been charting and tracking and your O is pretty consistent *even* with the supps and diet thrown in the mix, then dtd around cd11 or 12. Then, when your opk turns definitely positive, just dtd about 12-18 hours after that. You will be in the zone then. And yes, you want to do the full nine yards each time, with Dh having some caffeine and you doing ew and whatever else you choose. I would for sure have you and DH take a mucus-thinner, like Mucinex or Robitussin, about an hour before your attempts also.
Like Princess said, she conceived her boy dtd 2 days in a row....and Atomic said she's conceived her boys with frequent bding also, in about every pattern possible.....just goes to show how little timing and abstinence has to do with it. Don't stress about it too much....even if you end up dtd 24 hours apart because your first attempt was say, on CD12, and then your opk suddenly turns + later that day, just go for it and don't worry about it. I know we all want to give this our best shot, but do remember that even if you just loosely eat the diet, take a few supps, and use preseed or ew, you are way upping your odds of your dice turning up blue! Believe me, I want a son more than anything, but the reality is that even if I try to make everything just perfect and do every little swaying thing there is, I still may end up with a girl, or may end up never getting pregnant at all. That little personal rant being said, I say don't worry about the timing and frequency as much. Your DH is still going to make millions of sperm after 24 hours, and if your body is primed to be more boy-friendly from diet and supps, then you are in good shape!