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So much to catch up on! Verena soooooo exciting. Hannah can't wait to hear- and every one else too.
I finally got cross hairs, but this is very confusing because I'm pretty sure I ovulated the day of my positive OPK, but my temps are weird, right? I THINK I should get my period tomorrow if my LP stays consistent at 11 days from when I think I Oed. Can anyone help me out with these weird temps? Is this normal to have another shift? Could my LH OPK been wrong or is FF just off? Clearly I'm a temping newbie.
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Is feeling too hot common in tww? I know all symptoms are normal etc but im the type to always feel cold, like duvet and blanket even in summer cos i dont feel the heat but past few days ive been feeling extremley hot!!
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A chemical and miscarriage is a bit different for me. I was bummed but I trust my body that for some reason, it was not a viable egg. The miscarriage was for sure the hardest. He definitely knew about those and did a great job supporting and encouraging during those times.Quote:
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I see that line progressing and it is beautiful!!!
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Kikurose I think either you could be right or ff could be right. Either looks possible to me. You can have multiple surges meaning multiple pos opks in a cycle which is not common but I know of two people personally who would experience two to three occassions of pos opks, proper positives too and days apart with negative ones in between. You did great with continuing your attempts as you're well covered for a later o scenario [emoji3]
So did you not get an attempt in at pos opk?
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Parying4girl I have heard of being hot being a symptom! Fx it is and your body isn't playing tricks on you [emoji120]
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Verena tic tok guess who's watching the clock [emoji3] [emoji787][emoji102] I do have to go out though so I'll be checking my phone as soon as I get home!!! It has to stay behind on charge otherwise I'd be sitting on it [emoji23] looking forward to seeing your test!
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Phn3 so hope so. Thanks.
Not feeling much different otherwise. Past months ive convinced myself its happened only for AF to come few days late. Did for a second think i’ll do a preg test but dont want to see an negative again so going to hold old towards late this coming week.
Hannah I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I can only imagine how bad a "real" miscarriage must be. When I had the chemical my world broke already. I'm glad that at least your DH was very kind.Quote:
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Really hoping so much that this is your month. How is your cycle going? Could you post another screenshot of your chart (or even better the link to ff)? I think you're getting close to testing time as well?
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Kikurose I honestly couldn't tell when you have ovulated, but I'm no expert... Do you normally o so early as your opk would indicate? Was it you whose husband was not at home for a while so you couldn't get attempts in? If that's the case and you're chart is right saying there was no attempt at pos op, then it would be a good thing if you ovulated later? Fx!!!
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Lol pbn [emoji23][emoji8] My test is actually not as dark as I would like it to be. Yesterday there was no line progression at all and I convinced myself that this was the next chemical. This morning it's at least a tad darker. This waiting game is so nerve-wracking...Quote:
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That test looks fabulous Verena!! Definate darkening there [emoji7]
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Verena think I mentioned before took my tests SO long to darkern on IC! So happy for you!
Hello girlsway, hru? Next week when is your screening?:fingers::heart:
No clue where i should write this post, but its sway related. Not sure when we will decide to TTC again, but we know we want a second child to hold. Im having a lot of guilt, as if my swaying caused my miscarriage. Did anyone else go through this with their miscarriage? I didnt take prenatal vitamins, but did DHA and folic acid. I have my d&c follow up on Thursday. We'll probably get the go ahead, but i am debating just neither preventing nor tracking or swaying. I was swaying girl and still desperately want a baby girl, but i also don't want to go through another loss.
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Awesome April 2ww & TTC thread [emoji120]
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Hgmama I'm so sorry again [emoji22] Swaying does not cause miscarriages, it just means something wasn't quite right and the body would not allow the pregnancy to progress. I know you're looking for a reason and the first place we go looking is at ourselves and what we did to cause this... But it's not your fault [emoji173] I did everything by the book to promote a healthly conception and pregnancy and still had losses. I did everything wrong when I gave up ttc and now my dd is laying next to me...Quote:
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It is entirely up to you what you do swaying wise, how much you do or dont sway is a very personal decision. Do what you're comfortable with [emoji173] I would suggest at least keeping the one attempt tactic via e4d (every 72 hours) OR have hubby release e4d with or without you (condom with you) prior to your one unprotected attempt. This will keep his swimmers in good health.
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Verena - That's a beautiful line!! Looks much darker than the past few days!!!
HGMama - I'm so, so sorry about your loss. :( I hope you've been able to get some rest. After my D&C, I stayed in bed most of the first few days depressed and crying (thankfully, my inlaws were visiting so they could watch my kids). It's a terrible thing to have to go through. I know how you feel as far as wondering if swaying contributed to the m/c - I've had a lot of that guilt specifically, especially after my 2nd miscarriage in December. After that one I was convinced swaying had caused it. I even had family members telling me that maybe all my weight loss was the cause (I asked my RE about this and she said definitely not). This time around I felt even more guilt but it wasn't so much about swaying - it was more about if I did something after getting pregnant that caused the miscarriage. But moral of the story, I think guilt is a very natural instinct/emotion after miscarriages. I've been reading a lot about miscarriage in the past few weeks and I see that theme repeatedly - that women usually feel guilty, they blame themselves for all kinds of things that must have "caused" the miscarriage, when it really is nothing that they did. So I think what you're feeling is normal - and it's not exclusive to women who sway.
I don't think, like Pbn said, that swaying causes miscarriages... but here's a few things I'd throw out there as you're thinking through this. One - were you doing the "atomic fertility"/LE PCOS version of the diet? Because I think that's actually a very healthy diet - you're supposed to eat a lot of fruits/veggies, whole grains, no/little white flour/sugar, as well as 4-6 eggs per week, salmon or beef once per week, and you can have small amounts of other meat like chicken. The protein and fat limits are a little higher too. If you weren't doing that version of the diet before and are feeling concerned about the effects of swaying maybe you could try that version? As far as it swaying, Atomic actually thinks it's more effective than the regular LE diet. Also, I have read articles about caffeine and alcohol pre-conception contributing to m/c risk. I know lots and lots of women on here are consuming a lot of caffeine and daily alcohol and do just fine but it is something I've decided to be more careful about. I have switched entirely to decaf coffee (naturally processed/swiss water processed, so it doesn't have all the chemicals of normal decaf) - both because of my m/c's and because I have an underlying health condition that's aggravated by caffeine. So while I'm still doing 3-4 cups of coffee per day for my sway, I get almost no caffeine per day (and yes I'm more tired lately LOL!). And I still think the decaf is probably helping my sway. I still drink a fair amount of wine but I'm thinking as we get closer to trying again (if we do, and if so it wont be for at least another month), I'm probably going to cut this back and limit it to a glass of red every couple of days or so. And as far as exercise, if anything I think that's a very healthy habit pre-conception, especially as for swaying you're supposed to do moderate cardio (60 minutes), not some crazy high intensity exercise. And one attempt or E4D, especially if DH is releasing regularly (not abstaining) is definitely a good tactic still and not in any way risky.
Also - I would ask atomic about this - but after my 1st or 2nd m/c (I honestly can't remember) she recommended taking zinc 3x/week, iron I think 3x/week, and a low dose of vitamin D and B12 twice a week. She also had me up my folate intake (not folic acid, specifically folate) from 1,600 mcg per day to 2,400. Again - I'd ask her about any supplement recommendations but that's what she told me.
Anyways - hope that's helpful. It's tough I know. After 3 m/c, I'm now undergoing all the testing for "recurrent pregnancy loss" and that's very stressful as well. Remember you're not alone - so many on here have had such difficult journeys trying to conceive and stay pregnant and we're all here for support whenever you need!!!
Hey Noemi I’m really well thank you! Still have nausea and exhaustion but my dating scan is next Wednesday finally! :)Quote:
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I’ve been stalking your chart can’t wait for you to test!
Missed a lot of posts with yesterday’s husband versus fire stick plant drama!
Will have to catch up
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Hgmama I am so sorry. We are all here for you, take your time to heal & be gentle with yourself.
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Something I’ve been meaning to ask, do you change to a new handle with the Clearblue dual each cycle. I hadn’t and after reading about how it works with remembering previous levels to determine rise I think maybe I should. I do have a new one...
Btw, I’m having a spelt hot cross bun tonight as my “3rd meal” is that terrible?!
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HGmama, I am sorry for your loss. I had a miscarriage a few months ago (not during a sway) and know how intense the sadness can be. Take good care.Quote:
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HGmama, I also agree with above comments about guilt. I continue to wonder if I caused it every time I see a new headline (this week it was -maybe i shouldn't have gotten a flu shot on the first trimester....). My doctor said it was likely genes unfolding wrong, nothing I could have done. Guilty feelings are normal but thus wasn't your fault.
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Abc- decaf might still help to sway? I am also considering decreasung caffeine and wine. Might decaf be better than no coffee?
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I don't think atomic knows for sure what in coffee sways but I've seen her say several times that it may not be the caffeine but some ingredient in coffee itself that sways, amd that's what I've seen when I've googled coffee and blood sugar. And soda with caffeine doesn't sway. Plus I've actually read caffeine can be bad for blood sugar levels and people with pcos. So I'm inclined to think decaf still helps. :) :)Quote:
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Emshe no need to change tester heads but if you have a new one you may as well use it. Keep the old one though as a back up. The tester head resets itself after 48 hours from previous solid smiley and will begin a new cycle when the first test cartridge is insertedQuote:
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Thanks!! And thanks for mentioning about the water processing.Quote:
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Yea most decaf coffee is decaffeinated with yucky chemicals so I'd definitely look for a swiss water processed one :)Quote:
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Uh huh! Get it! Thank you. I don’t know how but I managed to test with 2, a used one and a new 1st go one at the same time once and one flashed and other negative so that’s why I wondered!?Quote:
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Thank you all for your comments about my loss and guilt with swaying. I was able to take a week off work. I thought I was healing physically but turns out I wasnt. I bled the first day as expected, spotted the second, then barely nothing for 4 days. Woke up on day 6 post d&c bleeding through my underwear and pjs bright red again. It tapered off that afternoon. Then barely anything for 3 days. Then woke up again on follow up day 10 with red bleeding for a few hours. Doctor said that was unusual so staying on pelvic rest. My urine pregnancy test at the office was still positive so now i start the hpt hoping for a negative. If not by next Thursday then i have to start the blood tests for hcg levels. I didnt expect this part of the process and it totally sucks. I just want to get on with the physical process and
Thank you all for letting me know im not alone in the natural feelings of guilt. That is usually what brings on the tears everyday. I was hoping to get the chromosome study back but it was still in process. I am looking forward to see if it happened to be a common chromosomal problem and that will help me guilt so much.
As for the diet, i started out trying to do LE diet, but was very NOT successful. I reduced my red meat intake, had 2-3 cups of caffeinated coffee a day, but focused more on one attempt/e4d than anything. Hubs not doing frequent release. I didnt take prenatal vitamins, but took dha and folic acid. I did have 0-3 drinks of alcohol a day that month because we went out to dinner a lot during restaurant week and my birthday trip. Maybe ill reduce that intake next time and the caffeine. As for exercise, I am holding off until OB approves since im still bleeding. Then ill go to gym occasionally but i get quite a bit of high intensity walking while being a nurse for 12.5 hours 3-4 days a week. I struggled balancing full time mom, wife, and nurse already.
I'll post the zinc/iron/vit d/b12/folate questions to atomic when I finally am ready to prepare to conceive again. But honestly, my heart right now is saying to just do one attempt. Its the only thing i feel safe with at this exact moment, so ill have to work through that. My desire for a healthy baby is more than that of a baby girl. I could be convinced of certain tatics if this happens to have been a baby girl. This is such a hard thing to deal with. I feel like my plans and all the work i tried to do with opks and so
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So sorry to hear of your loss and the extra rough time your going through. I pray it eases and u get your health back. Thinking of you.
Hang in there, HGMama. Things will get better, slowly, but physically, emotionally, and mentally there will be good and bad days. I'm almost one month out from my D&C and just this past Thursday I had a terrible day - cried off and on all day, was hungry, depressed, and exhausted. I've been sleeping 9-10 hours per night the past couple of weeks and I honestly don't know if the fatigue I feel is more physical exhaustion or emotional depression (probably both). But there are good moments and days too, and overall I'm doing a lot better than I was. It's a crappy process going through grieving and healing - especially when you are trying to heal physically as well. My bleeding stopped and started several times the first few weeks, and then my period started last Sunday - only 23 days after the D&C. I had to have two HCG tests to make sure my HCG was going down b/c a week and a half after my D&C I was still getting dark lines on the HPTs. So, it takes awhile. I guess when the HCG is higher at the time of the D&C it can take a LONG time - weeks and weeks - after for it to clear out completely. My doctor said there is usually a huge drop immediately after the D&C followed by several weeks of it slowly zeroing out. I'm guessing your HCG was even higher than mine too, so it will probably take awhile, but it sounds like you're being followed closely and that your doc will make sure everything does what it should in time. Did you do your post D&C follow up, and if so did they think everything looked ok?
I'm attaching a photo that is my current laptop desktop background. I read it every day. It reminds me that this is MY process of healing and I have to do it the way I feel is best - no one can or should tell me what to feel, think, do, etc. Hope it helps you. Take all the time you need to grieve and heal - cry, rest, eat, do whatever you need to help you feel better and don't worry about what anyone else says or thinks you should do. And as always we're all always here for you!
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Hgmama I'm so sorry to hear you've had such a rough experience, big hugs xxoo [emoji173][emoji173]
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Can I just say that we all look for a reason why this has happened and will generally zero in on something we did convinced it caused this to happen, but the truth is, no matter how healthly the conception, if something is not right, the body will generally not allow the pregnancy to progress. I know its cold comfort right now and takes quite awhile for your head to come around but it will eventually [emoji173] I had an alcoholic bender easter weekend (as in drank something like 4 bottles of wine over the four days), prior to our random and yet again alcohol involved bd, had been drinking full strength coffee 2-3 a day after being on decaf for 6 months or so, drinking 3-4 cans coke zero daily after limiting my intake to 2 daily previously etc etc. All this in the two weeks or so prior to falling pregnant with my dd after giving up ttc. I did everything wrong and had myself convinced that I was totally going to be the cause of my 4th loss, but she survived. All that body abuse and she still stuck with me and I'm convinced it's because she was a healthly embryo and it was simply a good sperm met a good egg and had a trouble free implantation. It's nothing you did hgmama [emoji173]
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Sending you strength HGMamaQuote:
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