I'm not sure that anyone really knows why or how PCOS works. Sorry if my response was confusing, I try to keep things somewhat on the brief side both for people's understanding level and also to save time.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
I'm not sure that anyone really knows why or how PCOS works. Sorry if my response was confusing, I try to keep things somewhat on the brief side both for people's understanding level and also to save time.Quote:
Originally Posted by rainbowflower
You can have a false ovulation in an anovulatory cycle, so it seems like you ovulated but your body decided not to, and then at some point your estrogen drops and your lining comes off. It's not a real AF and is called "breakthrough bleeding", but it looks like AF and acts like one too, because your cycle begins anew after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana-Alicia
You can't know if you have "too much or too little" estrogen. No one knows what that even means really and certianly not for gender ratio. The numbers are meaningless because they would vary drastically by individual anyway, it's what your body does as a result of that estrogen that matters.
When you go for your pretesting for HT I would be sure to mention that some months you have very short cycles because they need to know that type of stuff. Even if they kinda blow it off, it's good to mention it
Thanks for explaining, it's very interesting. I will mention it when I go for my pre-testing and decided to try and track my cycles and maybe do some opk-tests do learn more about it.
Hello atomic sagebrush,
I just recently joined and I have been trying to read as much as I can before doing my first sway attempt. However, I don't know if my nerves are kicking in but I have been doing the the boy diet hardcore :superhero:. However these past two months I pinpointed my "o" day to be on the 16th day. Today is CD# 15 for me and I have only tacky and watery cm. I believe on CD#13 i took a clearblue advanced digital test and got a smiley in the evening, of course I did not read the instructions carefully so I was not able to re-test until 48 hours have elapsed. My CM at that time was still tacky, not even close to watery and this is why I cannot comprehend why my bbt, cm is not matching up. I am a opk fanatic so I have a few different types of opks. I also have pregnancytests.com opk's and those have been negative. My biggest purchase is the clearblue fertility monitor and this has not detected my surge, nor has my CM been close to EWCM and my BBT is still in the lows.
My questions to you are, is it possible that my ovulation went out of whack now that I am on this extreme boy diet?
Can my excitement and nervousness throw my "o" out of whack and cause me to "o" late or not at all?
Is it possible that I do not get a positive opk now that my eating habits have changed?
If I do get a positive OPK, do you suggest I bd on my second peak or first peak day of opk. From my last bbt, cm and opk chartings, my cm has changed back to creamy late in the evening on peak day two and my bbt has risen the following day after the 2nd peak day?
sorry, my hubby and I havent dtd or bd until my suspected ovulation, because of health issues, but he is extremely concerned that I will miss my "o"day and does not want to make room for error. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance!:nails::bowdown:
Hi again Mayra,
it's def. possible and not even particularly unusual that O may get a bit kooky while on HE Diet. I am not a huge fan of CBFM for exactly that reason and actually prefer the cheapies. My recommendation would be to DTD every 2-3 days to cover bases and then in addition, continue testing and be prepared to have another couple attempts at or just after pos OPK.
excitement and nervousness can def. delay O and as I mentioned in your other thread, I would not be concerned at all being on CD 16 and not surging yet. That is not even out range of normal.
You WILL get a pos OPK, it just may be delayed. If you are taking EPO, green tea, fertile CM, or L-arginine, those need to go now.
We have been getting 75% success for PINK with one attempt. I strongly recommend 3 attempts at or around pos OPK (one day before Ov thru O day) for best odds of blue.
If hubby has not released for your whole cycle, that is a pink sway tactic. I advise having him relelase however often he is able to even if it's less often than every 2-4 days, to keep fresh sperm moving thru and always ensure a nice supply of healthy sperm - this seems to sway blue. Even if he can only manage it every 6-7 days, that will still be much better for blue than a very long abstain.
I cant thank you enough atomic for all of your detailed responses. Ill make sure to make a note and start some immediate changes. Im hopeful that this will do the trick. 😉💝
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Atomic I thought FR was a pink sway tactic? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!
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I'm sorry I really have no clue what you're talking about here. :nails: I see a couple possibilities but please let me know if I guessed wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by myurkanin817
Yes, FR is a pink sway tactic but having 3 attempts in a row in the fertile window, is NOT FR. for FR to sway pink, you have to have 7-10 releases (or attempts if you are doing FBD) before the earliest attempt that could possible get you pregnant.
Or, I am assuming that you read "have him release however often he is able to" but that poster was a BLUE swayer whose husband couldn't release as often as every 2-4 days (my standard recommendation for blue.) because he has some health issues. I certainly don't want her having him do a long long abstain, so my point was that whenever he is physically able to release (which for HIM would be maybe every 5-6 days) then that is what he should do instead of having a long abstain. He wouldn't be able to release more often than that so no possiblity of him accidentally doing FR, if that makes any sense??
Hello,
Here is a picture of my OPKs. Please excuse my neatness, I grabbed a plain cardboard and double sided sticky tape and just started sticking away. Here is my CBFM that coincides with my cheap opks. Mind you that CBFM showed peak the day following my first positive with Cheap opks. :)
Wish me luck!Attachment 16297
Good luck Mayra!!!
Thank you atomic ;)😂
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Thank you atomic!! :running:
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Gonna thread steal here, because I have the same question but different circumstances.
I typically O CD 14-15, last cycle I O on CD 9 then had an extra long LP of 21 days (usually I am 10-13 days). This cycle my temp has already hit it's pre-O pattern (yeah I am lucky enough every month I see the same two flat, drop, two flat, up, down, O pattern), I'm seeing watery borderline eggwhite CM, and my OPK is almost positive...CD 8 :worry: I should O within the next day or two giving me two months of rather early ovulation. I considered it is a result of my miscarriage in Nov, This is cycle 3 after my loss. I O'ed late on the first cycle at CD 20, the second was the first early at CD 9.
Anyway long blabber short, what could cause this and how do I fix it? (I've read studies that a short follicular phase decreases viability greatly.) We don't plan to TTC until March since that's my next projected O on a new moon and gives me 8 weeks+ on the LE diet.
I'm already taking vitex because I wanted to lengthen my LP.
ETA: I just turned 28 in Dec., so I doubt it is an egg reserve issue.
I feel dumb. I was reading some other threads on early O on here, and lots of ladies seemed to be having issues with vitex and O before CD 10. It dawns on me that I upped my dose of vitex last cycle. I had been taking 400 mg which is half the recommended dose on my bottle, and upped it to a full dose. I'd bet that's why I'm O'ing early now. I'm going to drop back down to a half dose and see what happens. Or should I wait until next month? I'm gathering (correct me if I'm wrong) that having a little imbalance is good for a pink sway? So changing the dosage back closer to when we plan to TTC may be better?
If your LP was 21 days long, I doubt you ovulated on CD 9. (unless you were pregnant and had a chemical) Temping can sometimes be a little misleading. That having been said, it's not uncommon to have oddball cycles after a loss, esp. when taking vitex as well.
I just read on the other thread that you got a pos OPK on CD 11 this month, that would put you in with O on CD 12 or even 13, and that is perfectly normal. Please do not worry or stress about decreased viability at all, that's not an issue for you at the age of 28.
Yes we do think that having the cycle be a little bit "off" may help to sway pink, but this is one of those crystal ball questions where I really don't have the data to be able to say which is better. Sorry, I wish I did!!
Just had a read of this interesting thread and now I'm really not sure where I'm at!!
This is what my cycles have looked like since weaning DS #2 (when he was two years of age. I mention this because my body was pretty depleted).
Cycle one - (not swaying) 28 days
Cycle two - (not swaying) 38 days
Cycle three - (started LE & vitex) 29 days
Cycle four - (LE, vitex, SP) 28 days
Cycle five - (LE, vitex, SP) up to day 39 & still no AF
What do you think is happening there? I had a long cycle before starting my sway and it looks like I've gone full circle and back at square one?
I should mention that when I conceived DS #1 I had a 35 day cycle after coming off BCP then fell preg and with DS #2 I had a 44 day cycle after weaning DS #1 from breastfeeding and fell preg. I did have a burst cyst when DS #2 was 6 months old so maybe I'm a little prone to PCOS?
I'm so confused as to why my cycles normalised for a bit whilst swaying and now this one is never-ending? Any thoughts Atomic?
Thank you! x
Well, we all have long cycles sometimes for no real reason so while I suspect that this latest cycle is prob. long due to Vitex, SP, and LE Diet, it may have just been one of those things where stopping breastfeeding and it takes some time for things to get back into regularity again.
A burst cyst when breastfeeding doesn't mean you have PCO-tendencies, that's not abnormal.
Thank you Atomic, that's reassuring to hear re: the burst cyst.
Fingers are crossed the long cycle happening now is a good sign the LE diet and supps have done their thing and my body is girl ready (as soon as I ov! lol) I'm going to try and keep positive. x
What an interesting thread!!! I had a 31day cycle before ttc both my boys, it was 31 days like clockwork. EXCEPT the cycles I conceived the boys. On DS1 I got my AF while on honeymoon and after that it was CD20 when I got +opk. Bear in mind I had never done OPKs before that so think that I was stressing waiting to O and that may have delayed it. DS2 was similar. Got AF right before (like 2 days) we flew to Florida and it was around CD20-21 I got +opk. I had done opks before that and think the stress of waiting to O might cause a delay. And plus we were travelling both occasions, can travel (esp long flights) sway or affect our bodies enough to affect our sway? Since DS2 my cycle has been as short as 25 days and as long as 35 days but my LP is consistently 13 days so all good there. Just wondering does the iffy cycle make me more girl friendly...
That is a pretty normal range hopper. It's not unusual to have cycles that are like that.
I can't tell you if your irregular cycle makes you more girl friendly, since it's always irregular and you got boys with it before.
Thanks for the reply Atomic. Sorry for the Crystal ball-ish-ness of my question. The main thing that confuses me about my cycle is that it was regular every month EXCEPT the months I conceived my boys whereas now it's a few days either side of 30 every month. I won't get caught up in it anyway, was just curious. Diet, exercise, one attempt! Those 4 little words are the key ;)Quote:
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I ovulated a few days earlier with both girls (cd 14 and 15) when typically it was cd 17-20.