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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbowflower View Post
    I don't disagree with PCOS = high T levels, but the T levels are the side effect of the PCOS not the cause of the struggle to ovulate (thus delaying it). I've actually been researching this lately as my doctor is thinking about testing me for PCOS (she thinks I have it). This one's worth a read: Polycystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS)
    I'm not sure that anyone really knows why or how PCOS works. Sorry if my response was confusing, I try to keep things somewhat on the brief side both for people's understanding level and also to save time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dana-Alicia View Post
    I never considered I might not be ovulating on those short cycles hmmm. I assumed I always, as I do get loads of EWCM and the urge to DTD a LOT I never used tests to see if or when I'm ovulating, my body kind of always let me know. But I can not be sure I really did ovulate last month... How can I find out if I have too much or too little estrogen? I find this very interesting and would like to learn more about this so if you can redirect me somewhere to read that would be great!
    You can have a false ovulation in an anovulatory cycle, so it seems like you ovulated but your body decided not to, and then at some point your estrogen drops and your lining comes off. It's not a real AF and is called "breakthrough bleeding", but it looks like AF and acts like one too, because your cycle begins anew after that.

    You can't know if you have "too much or too little" estrogen. No one knows what that even means really and certianly not for gender ratio. The numbers are meaningless because they would vary drastically by individual anyway, it's what your body does as a result of that estrogen that matters.

    When you go for your pretesting for HT I would be sure to mention that some months you have very short cycles because they need to know that type of stuff. Even if they kinda blow it off, it's good to mention it
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    Thanks for explaining, it's very interesting. I will mention it when I go for my pre-testing and decided to try and track my cycles and maybe do some opk-tests do learn more about it.
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    Hello atomic sagebrush,

    I just recently joined and I have been trying to read as much as I can before doing my first sway attempt. However, I don't know if my nerves are kicking in but I have been doing the the boy diet hardcore . However these past two months I pinpointed my "o" day to be on the 16th day. Today is CD# 15 for me and I have only tacky and watery cm. I believe on CD#13 i took a clearblue advanced digital test and got a smiley in the evening, of course I did not read the instructions carefully so I was not able to re-test until 48 hours have elapsed. My CM at that time was still tacky, not even close to watery and this is why I cannot comprehend why my bbt, cm is not matching up. I am a opk fanatic so I have a few different types of opks. I also have pregnancytests.com opk's and those have been negative. My biggest purchase is the clearblue fertility monitor and this has not detected my surge, nor has my CM been close to EWCM and my BBT is still in the lows.
    My questions to you are, is it possible that my ovulation went out of whack now that I am on this extreme boy diet?

    Can my excitement and nervousness throw my "o" out of whack and cause me to "o" late or not at all?

    Is it possible that I do not get a positive opk now that my eating habits have changed?

    If I do get a positive OPK, do you suggest I bd on my second peak or first peak day of opk. From my last bbt, cm and opk chartings, my cm has changed back to creamy late in the evening on peak day two and my bbt has risen the following day after the 2nd peak day?

    sorry, my hubby and I havent dtd or bd until my suspected ovulation, because of health issues, but he is extremely concerned that I will miss my "o"day and does not want to make room for error. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    Thank you in advance!
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    Hi again Mayra,

    it's def. possible and not even particularly unusual that O may get a bit kooky while on HE Diet. I am not a huge fan of CBFM for exactly that reason and actually prefer the cheapies. My recommendation would be to DTD every 2-3 days to cover bases and then in addition, continue testing and be prepared to have another couple attempts at or just after pos OPK.

    excitement and nervousness can def. delay O and as I mentioned in your other thread, I would not be concerned at all being on CD 16 and not surging yet. That is not even out range of normal.

    You WILL get a pos OPK, it just may be delayed. If you are taking EPO, green tea, fertile CM, or L-arginine, those need to go now.

    We have been getting 75% success for PINK with one attempt. I strongly recommend 3 attempts at or around pos OPK (one day before Ov thru O day) for best odds of blue.

    If hubby has not released for your whole cycle, that is a pink sway tactic. I advise having him relelase however often he is able to even if it's less often than every 2-4 days, to keep fresh sperm moving thru and always ensure a nice supply of healthy sperm - this seems to sway blue. Even if he can only manage it every 6-7 days, that will still be much better for blue than a very long abstain.
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    I cant thank you enough atomic for all of your detailed responses. Ill make sure to make a note and start some immediate changes. Im hopeful that this will do the trick. 😉💝

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    Atomic I thought FR was a pink sway tactic? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!


    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Hi again Mayra,

    it's def. possible and not even particularly unusual that O may get a bit kooky while on HE Diet. I am not a huge fan of CBFM for exactly that reason and actually prefer the cheapies. My recommendation would be to DTD every 2-3 days to cover bases and then in addition, continue testing and be prepared to have another couple attempts at or just after pos OPK.

    excitement and nervousness can def. delay O and as I mentioned in your other thread, I would not be concerned at all being on CD 16 and not surging yet. That is not even out range of normal.

    You WILL get a pos OPK, it just may be delayed. If you are taking EPO, green tea, fertile CM, or L-arginine, those need to go now.

    We have been getting 75% success for PINK with one attempt. I strongly recommend 3 attempts at or around pos OPK (one day before Ov thru O day) for best odds of blue.

    If hubby has not released for your whole cycle, that is a pink sway tactic. I advise having him relelase however often he is able to, to keep fresh sperm moving thru and always ensure a nice supply of healthy sperm - this seems to sway blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myurkanin817 View Post
    Atomic I thought FR was a pink sway tactic? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you!
    I'm sorry I really have no clue what you're talking about here. I see a couple possibilities but please let me know if I guessed wrong.

    Yes, FR is a pink sway tactic but having 3 attempts in a row in the fertile window, is NOT FR. for FR to sway pink, you have to have 7-10 releases (or attempts if you are doing FBD) before the earliest attempt that could possible get you pregnant.

    Or, I am assuming that you read "have him release however often he is able to" but that poster was a BLUE swayer whose husband couldn't release as often as every 2-4 days (my standard recommendation for blue.) because he has some health issues. I certainly don't want her having him do a long long abstain, so my point was that whenever he is physically able to release (which for HIM would be maybe every 5-6 days) then that is what he should do instead of having a long abstain. He wouldn't be able to release more often than that so no possiblity of him accidentally doing FR, if that makes any sense??
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    My OPKs and Update

    Hello,

    Here is a picture of my OPKs. Please excuse my neatness, I grabbed a plain cardboard and double sided sticky tape and just started sticking away. Here is my CBFM that coincides with my cheap opks. Mind you that CBFM showed peak the day following my first positive with Cheap opks.

    Wish me luck!opks.jpg
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