October 2WW

Great idea pbn, I was getting confused as to who was where in their cycle. I'm 4dpo and doing e4d. Had attempt day before solid smiley on Oct 6th, was due to have another attempt last night but fell asleep with DS2 and all thought of dtd was out the window. Negative opk again this morning so seems like I have Oed when the solid smiley came up, which is what I think is right as WCM is gone (I don't seem to get EWCM on LE which is a massive change cause I always had buckets of it!!)

Sorry you are in such pain pbn, be as graphic as you want! We don't judge here (which is what I love lol!)

Argh 2x, sounds SO promising!!!! Have absolutely everything crossed, so excited at the thoughts of a BFP on this thread lol x

That opk looks promising too netti! I can't use IC opks, I get way too stressed! And the stress ALWAYS delays O for me so I just said I wouldn't use them at all. Then last cycle for our first attempt I was so confused cause I Oed so early compared to past cycles I bought the digital opks and no confusion this cycle. Thankfully lol.

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Sounds great hun!! I think we will be testing around the same time :)

Cd17 here and still waiting to o, I think.

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2x - that sounds like implantation bleeding. Yeah!

Pbn2- so sorry about ur pain.

As for me im out. I started my period 4-5 days early. It started out as brown so i thought implantation but turned red. Its been really light and only a couple days long. I keep getting sharp pains in one ovary. Im swaying girl. This is only our 2nd month but going to try to change some stuff this month. I was taking saw palmetto, vitex and hubby licorice root. Doign le diet and exercise for almost 12 weeks. I was thinking of dropping the the supplements or at least the vitex and maybe switching hubby to olive leaf extract?? What are you girls doing if u have to move onto next month.

Update: cd28 (normal length is 25), still no af, negative frer yesterday

For those of you who don't recognize me, I've been hanging out on these 2ww boards for well over a year. I haven't been around as much since my loss in July because it's the same old, same old. I finally found a good dr and should have some test results and some answers soon. Meanwhile, I've been trying maca and vitex. I know atomic doesn't like those. My swaying is totally over and I'm just desperate for a bfp. I seem to have something wrong with my thyroid, and the maca is helping that. I didn't realize the breast tenderness I was having from o to af was not normal and a sign of a problem, but the vitex has taken care of that (I take it o to af). And I figured that out from the book "Making Babies". I'm still receiving acupuncture once a month.

I am guessing things are finally getting balanced so my cycle might be coming to a more normal length. I doubt I'm pregnant this time, but I will certainly let you know when I get a bfp!

I took this pic within the 5min time window, I feel like I definitely see something (in person and in the pic) but I don't see any color :(
The "line" definitely showed up within the time though, so im confused. The lines look a bit closer together than I expected. I am 8dpo today, tested yesterday with frer as well and saw no second line at all.
BUT I poured that pee out before I could test again (it wasn't FMU anyway) and peed again to test and that ones stark negative :( it was a frer too.
Opinions?!? Do FReRs do this now?? I remember being more certain with my faint line last pregnancy.

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2x - that sounds like implantation bleeding. Yeah!

Pbn2- so sorry about ur pain.

As for me im out. I started my period 4-5 days early. It started out as brown so i thought implantation but turned red. Its been really light and only a couple days long. I keep getting sharp pains in one ovary. Im swaying girl. This is only our 2nd month but going to try to change some stuff this month. I was taking saw palmetto, vitex and hubby licorice root. Doign le diet and exercise for almost 12 weeks. I was thinking of dropping the the supplements or at least the vitex and maybe switching hubby to olive leaf extract?? What are you girls doing if u have to move onto next month.

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Hi, it's our second month too. On 4dpo. I was doing diet cardio and one attempt but was dropping weight too fast with cardio so stopped that. I have DH taking Cranberry (your DH can do cranberry or olive leaf extract but not both) and LR (though he's on a break now) I'm not taking any supplements other than Folic and Fiber. And we are doing the every 4 day method (using the smiley opks just this month but think I will keep them up if we are moving on to next month as its taken the guess work out of it for me) On LE diet for 23 weeks now have had 3 slip ups spaced throughout. Am including a unit of alcohol, usually 150mls of white wine, as part of my cals every day too. Best of luck for next month, hopefully 3rd month is the charm :)

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Update: cd28 (normal length is 25), still no af, negative frer yesterday

For those of you who don't recognize me, I've been hanging out on these 2ww boards for well over a year. I haven't been around as much since my loss in July because it's the same old, same old. I finally found a good dr and should have some test results and some answers soon. Meanwhile, I've been trying maca and vitex. I know atomic doesn't like those. My swaying is totally over and I'm just desperate for a bfp. I seem to have something wrong with my thyroid, and the maca is helping that. I didn't realize the breast tenderness I was having from o to af was not normal and a sign of a problem, but the vitex has taken care of that (I take it o to af). And I figured that out from the book "Making Babies". I'm still receiving acupuncture once a month.

I am guessing things are finally getting balanced so my cycle might be coming to a more normal length. I doubt I'm pregnant this time, but I will certainly let you know when I get a bfp!

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Hi sage, I do recognise you alright but I have only been a lurked on these boards until last month when we started attempting. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Sorry to hear of you mc in July x I have never heard of the breast tenderness from O being an issue before, did you have it the entire time after O right up to AF? I had excruciating pain in my BBs for about 3 days BEFORE ON this cycle, had never had it before but OMG it was horrible! Hopefully everything is after balancing out for you and it all pays off asap! Are your cycles usually irregular?

2sweetboys, I've heard of FRERs doing this. I did have a test from them once that did that where it looked like a line but no color. I was told it's because it's where a line would be because there's a colorless strip there made of cells and if it detects HCG, the dye clings to it. So, there's pretty much always a line there. I hope that makes sense! FX though that it's the start of an early bfp! If it makes you feel better, with DS2 I tested at 9dpo on a wondfo test and the line was so dang light it looked like a shadow, no color but I took another brand and it was +++!

Dpike sorry you got AF :( She's an evil witch I tell ya! Has2gentleman, hopefully ovulation is just around the corner. Waiting for it is no fun!

5dpo today with a huge jump in temp from yesterday. Makes me feel better because that temp dip had me worried!

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Well af has just arrived a day early - could've come early this morning so I didn't waste my digi hpt lol!! So an 11 day lt phase (started with a 13 day lt phase that went to 12 three cycles ago) and another short cycle.

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(((Hugs))) [emoji22] so are you going to try this cycle?

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Thanks boysboys! Yeah I'm leaning towards another all out go. I started back on diet today but will start taking prenatals tomorrow and going to have an attempt day before as well as day of o using sperm safe lube. If I can order and get some preseed from somewhere in time I'll use that instead :) At least I'll know I've done all I can to get a bfp even if it means using some blue sway tactics

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Mucinex or robotussin are goodies too, but sway blue. Also, if it were me and I wanted to do everything I could to get a BFP, I'd bang it out everyday from +OPK to O+1.... but it again does sway blue. I've got everything crossed for you this cycle!!!!!

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Bfn and temp drop today... So def out! I hope AF doesn't show today at my sons christening!! In my nice dress [emoji37][emoji15] I shall have a drink later now then on to next month! Xx


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(((((Hugs)))))) I'm sorry. Fx this next cycle will be the one.

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So sorry poptart. May b next month

Dpike are you absolutely sure it's AF if it's really light and only a couple of days long?? Did your temp go down? Also for hubby he can take OLE along with the LR it's just OLE is taken all cycle long and LR AF-O only.

Hi sage violet, good luck [emoji4]

Sorry 2sweetboys I don't see anything but still super early, hopefully your bfp is just around the corner [emoji4]

Well I did get my crosshairs this morning but seriously doubting that I have Od... My temp is similar to pre O temps and seems to me that the one big temp is just confusing things. DH couldn't dtd last night to maintain our E4D so better get to it tonight just in case [emoji6]


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Good evening ladies :) Quick question - during the TWW how long post O is it advised to maintain strict LE? Reason I'm asking is cause the pre-AF munchies seem to be hitting and so far I've denied myself lol. Before starting our attempts I would just give in and have a cheat but with the possibility of conception/implantation etc I want to be a little less loose. Also, was just thinking today about the fasting period. Is it safe to be fasting for 12-15 hours before breakfast/lunch during this TWW period? It would hardly hurt a potential embryo, right? Feeling guilty for wanting to cheat and feeling guilty for not eating enough. Can't win!!

Hopper, I think if you are going to cheat the 2nd week of th tww wait is the best time to do it so go for it :)

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Hopper, I think if you are going to cheat the 2nd week of th tww wait is the best time to do it so go for it :)

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Thanks hun :) Will be 5dpo tomorrow so might allow myself to loosen the reins from like Wednesday or so. I usually allow myself a full on cheat day when I get AF but I'll test in 8 days so it's not THAT long to limit myself I suppose lol. I DID have a vanilla frosted cupcake after my dinner as it was within my limits and it took the longing off me lol ;)

AF full glow right on time!! [emoji107]


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Sorry for af dpike and poptart :( when is next expected o?

2xblue fx for you! And fx for you as well Hopper!

Mammacass fx and what was this mornings temp like that you're doubting o? Can you post a pic of your chart?

Netti glad to see your opks are getting darker here's to an earlier o! Has2g hope o happens really soon for you!

2sweetboys most of my frers looked similar. It almost looks like a line at first but then you can see that its just one side of the white a different shade to the other. Once the test is completely dry the shades seem to match. Hope you get a definate line over next few days!

Yay for temp spike ksmom! Fx and best of luck to you and sageviolet!

Purple I hope your cycle surprises you this cycle with an early o!

Sorry if I've missed anyone it was alot to catch up on lol :)

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Sorry for af dpike and poptart :( when is next expected o?

2xblue fx for you! And fx for you as well Hopper!

Mammacass fx and what was this mornings temp like that you're doubting o? Can you post a pic of your chart?

Netti glad to see your opks are getting darker here's to an earlier o! Has2g hope o happens really soon for you!

2sweetboys most of my frers looked similar. It almost looks like a line at first but then you can see that its just one side of the white a different shade to the other. Once the test is completely dry the shades seem to match. Hope you get a definate line over next few days!

Yay for temp spike ksmom! Fx and best of luck to you and sageviolet!

Purple I hope your cycle surprises you this cycle with an early o!

Sorry if I've missed anyone it was alot to catch up on lol :)

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Ditto what she said... it really is a lot.

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There was a lot to catch up on. Sorry for those who had af show and hopefully those they bfps come soon.

I've had a really bad week of cheating (full af depression!) and have eaten a ton of simple carbs with no protein, hardly lifted weights, and did not eat a lot of protein in general. Would you skip this month? I've still eaten a lot I think just nothing nutritious. I actually at ice cream twice today!


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Quinn I wouldn't skip. I thought about that after my first 2ww of cheating and I've just had my 3rd 2ww cheat lol. It's up to you but if you've been on the diet awhile I wouldn't worry about a small window of cheating :)

Quinn ive been eating regularly with the family. Im kinda over the le thing as its simply one area that has always been a struggle from the beginning. What ive stuck to usall the things that do work in my favour. Id just go for it 😊

Thanks pbn. Opk this AM looks just like last nights so ill repeat again tonight. I seem to have better luck in the evening than the afternoon for some strange reason. Im just trying to work out bd times depending on when I O and factoring in everything else 😂😂

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Quinn, i wouldnt skip either. Just try to get back on the diet and exerxise and keep going.

Are you going with multiple attempts Netti or just one?

I dont temp and wasnt sure what is going on but now im thinking it is def af. I have light period but i first did think it was implantation.

Sorry dpike :(

Just the one attempt pbn but I don't want to jump the gun like last time (and just trying to plan a possible attempt is nuts with our schedule) 😊 tmro night would be ideal as weds is extremely busy but will see how we go.

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Sorry for AF poptart

Pbn here is my chart, I'm doubting it because if you take away that 1 high temp the rest are all similar? What do you think?

Quinn ditto what they others said, I wouldn't skip [emoji4]

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Geez that's a tough one mammacass! Do you check cervix by any chance and any change to cm? I'd still be bding until you're sure :) think its going to be one of those 'see what happens over next few days'

Thanks for looking Pbn, tricky seems to be the most common word associated with my weird and wacky cycles ha ha I really think I need to get some OPKs but don't know when I should start using them, the clear blue are too expensive to use for as long as I would have to, maybe I should get some internet ones again, then when I'm seeing something use the other? I do check cervix and its firm atm I thought it felt a bit softer a couple of days ago but not so good at that either [emoji30]


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If it felt softer a couple days ago but firm now then its quite likely you did o. Unless your body geared up to o but didnt. IF you need to go another round which hopefully you don't that sounds like a good plan regarding opks. Use the cheapies until you start seeing a line then use another store brand as well for comparison :) hopefully next few days temps will shed some light.

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There was a lot to catch up on. Sorry for those who had af show and hopefully those they bfps come soon.

I've had a really bad week of cheating (full af depression!) and have eaten a ton of simple carbs with no protein, hardly lifted weights, and did not eat a lot of protein in general. Would you skip this month? I've still eaten a lot I think just nothing nutritious. I actually at ice cream twice today!


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This sounds like my diet when I got my boys. I think my really boy friendly habbit is snacking all the time, I also conceived both just after Christmas so was eatiing all the time!
I wouldn't skip this month, try to get back on the HE wagon and keep going :)

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I dont temp and wasnt sure what is going on but now im thinking it is def af. I have light period but i first did think it was implantation.

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As long as its not like the bleeding I get now before O. It's like a really light AF so it could be confused to be AF if I wasn't temping!

My body seems to be gearing up to O for the 3rd or 4th time this cycle. Getting ewcm again. If you look at my chart you can actually see the temps go down then back up for each ovulation attempt. I would prefer it to wait at least 2 days just so im less than cd5 at my appointment!

Mamacass, buy the cheapie OPKs on Amazon. I bought the 100 pack of wondfo ones and it came with a bunch of pregnancy tests too. After having wacky cycles, I was so sick of spending $$$$$$ on those overpriced clear blue digital ones!

Quinn, I would still attempt anyway. One week off HE isn't going to undo everything. It's the "big picture" that matters like AS always says!

I hope you O soon purple. Fluctuating temps are so frustrating.

5dpo-I had MAJOR cramping this evening. Like I actually had to breathe through them. LOL It was constant for a few minutes then it went away and came back for a little while. FX it's a good sign but it's probably my body prepping for AF. :( I haven't had a proper period since the beginning of August so I'm worried once I do get one, it'll be nightmarish.

It shouldn't be too bad ksmom.. I went about 7 or 8 months without one when ttc no.1 and it wasn't that bad, I think the body only builds up as much as it needs.

Hopefully you don't get AF though!

Mammacass ive been using the cheapies this cycle so not as stressed as it is costly particularly if you have varying cycles.

So far the cheapies are doing the trick and in comparison to the first response seem to be the same.

I'll use another cheapy tonight but im hopeful O day is Wednesday 😊

Don't mind the internet cheapy I think it bubbled or something.

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How frustrating for you purple!

Thankyou ksmom but I'm in Oz and don't think able/worth getting sent over? If anyone knows different please let me know [emoji4]

Thanks Netti, do you have a pic of the packet or do you know the brand name so I can see if they are the ones I got last time off eBay or if not so I can try to get some of those ones pretty please [emoji120]🏻



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AF arrived. So it wasn't imlantation bleed unfortunately. I'm not sad about not being pregnant (would've been amazing to have bfp ofcourse) but I'm worried about my short LP. Today would have been dpo8. Asked help from Atomic and got some tips from her. Hopefully those changes will help this cycle.

Good luck everyone else!