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Keshet I think it is great you are team green...im glad i am not the one and only! I was about 99% sure you were but wanted to double check! People go crazy when i tell them i am not finding out. It really bothers them! Haha
Feel free to ignore this if you want...wouldnt blame any of you...just more repeat gender drama from me..i just need to vent i guess :(
Having a hard day...found a 20 week potty shot of DD2 that was flat as flat can be...easy to believe girl even though even with my second pregnancy i had a boy preference there was no drama with 'maybe penis' ever because they were always just obvious girls...then i look back to the 20 week shot i got of this baby after just coming to terms with my 3rd and last girl and im a wreck again today over it...im so mad at the ultrasound tech. Its not even that i dont think she did her best actually, there is a part of me that really believes something is up with the shot and no matter the angle she would have said girl and it would have not looked very girly at all..
case and point..
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DD2 at 20 weeks
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"DD3" at 20 weeks
I know because i posted it in the ultrasound forums here that im not crazy because there is SOMETHING sticking straight up in the air in her potty shot and it threw everyone off..no one could be sure it was chord or even mentioned for that matter that they think its chord but maybe thats what it is...still i look between the legs and i dont see 3 flat lines..i see 3 lines yes but its in the damn air.. maybe it was just a really really bad angle but then when i let myself believe maybe they have been wrong i can see the babies legs are kind of closed together, they arent open wide and then i look below the 3 lines and see what could be a scrotum where maybe the testicles just havent descended yet at 19 weeks 6 days..
then im back to feeling like a crazy woman and crying my eyes out.
Sorry for re-hashing all of this. its just not very fair in my eyes..and typing that or saying it out loud makes me feel like a giant baby myself..
Rosie and Kesh- team green does drive people CRAZY! Not sure why. Maybe because everyone secretly has gender preference that they'd never admit, even though it is irrelevant to them!
Bura- I felt DS1 early continuously from 17 wks on and he was most active kid. DS2 took until 21 weeks to feel on a regular basis and he wasn't terribly rough on me and is a generally more calm child. DC3 I've been feeling daily since I hit 18 wks. We'll just see. Fingers crossed it has more to do with where they sit in the womb and where the placenta is.
Also I'd be very wary of late term US in determining babies size they can be off by up to 2 lbs! I know plenty of women who were told their baby was going to be big and 3/4 of the time baby was low 8 or below. Those are not big babies. Also this will be your 3rd birth, your body has muscle memory and knows how to birth your babies! My girlfriend had an unmedicated, pit induced VBAC 2 yrs ago and gave birth to a 10 lb 4 oz baby. In fact I had 2 vbac friends have 10 lb babes that yr both unmedicated. One didn't even tear!
Don't let a physician talk you into something you're unsure about. Know your options, get a doula or contact your local ICAN(international cesarean awareness network) chapter for resources.
When's your next US to ease your mind on gender????
next ultrasound to peek at gender is august 8th...so 2 months away pretty much.
IDK if i shared my birth story about DD2 or not...i think so but just in case...My DD2 was 9 pounds 2 ounces EJ and i absolutely could not deliver her naturally...her shoulders were stuck and not moving past my pelvis when her head would poke out during the pushing...they started to get concerned reached up there and noticed that...after a few more pushes and she wasnt budging they dislocated her shoulder to get her out of me. She was born in shock, pain, and wouldnt breathe at first because of the shock. DD1 was almost 8 pounds...she had to be vacummed out because after time spent pushing she wasnt budging either...two different doctors even though it was the same delivery practice so its definitely my body and what it can and cant handle and id say maybe with my 3rd, MAYBE i could do an 8 pound baby...the thing is because of my previous experience im terrified. honestly riddled with anxiety over it.
oh! DD1 was born at 38 weeks even and weighed that much so would have probably been a 10 pounder at birth if i had gone full term..DD2 was born at 37 weeks and 5 days and god knows how much she would have weighed if by some miracle i had made it to 40 weeks..
finally bit the bullet and posted my 20 week scan over at in-gender to see what they think..as usual i am stuck waiting for responses though..maybe its just my luck but i never seem to get as many responses or quick responses as everyone else..it was one reason i got sick of being there and then found this place, lol..
oh well..
Bur - I think it looks quite boyish but I am no way an expert! Hoping you get the answer you are hoping for hun.
This baby of mine is definitely the most active yet, she likes to wait till I'm about to go to sleep then starts her little ballet dance lol.
Still no news of another scan due Rosie size so wondering if maybe they think I'm ok as in tenth centile at 25 weeks, anyone know if that's ok? Xx
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I think they dont worry ktf until baby is in the 5th percentile. Did they say your fluidd were all fine and such? It really could be just a petite baby. As long as they dont see issues with head growth or the heart...
Bura i still really think that looks boyish. What did the ingender peeps say??
3 responses lol... Lady who has had two boys and said it doesnt look like either of her boys did sat that gestation but it also didnt look very girly... Another who recomended a potty shot expert on their forums and then basically repeated what the other lady said and then the expert themselves who says they are quite sure its a girl who is pushing her labia together with her legs and thats why its portruding so much.. Made me Feel better enough to relax on it today at least. I will quite literally die of shock if im told boy at my next ultrasound... 8 weeks and counting... Cant wait to see babys face getting chubby :)
And you know its funny that one comment im not even sure i truly believe could relax me at all considering i would love if it was a boy... But i think that the dead dream is just too fresh and so the thought of it maybe still being possible is just too painful like salt in the wound so to speak in some weird way...
My DH words exactly!! He said that he is definitely expecting to hear boy at our scan at 19w. The tech who did our US kept saying boy but it's early, even when my DH said we had MaterniT21 done. She even said we need to wait until our next scan. My DH said that to keep thinking its a girl and it really being a boy is just too painful! He would rather all the hope to be gone than for there to be still be hope and then to hear boy.Quote:
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He is actually quite into this baby! He cried when he felt him move last night! He is also quite protective of people's stupid comments. Today at the pool, a lady commented on me being pregnant as I was walking behind him and our two boys. He said that I was indeed pregnant and we were having our third boy. She said Oh my, your poor wife! DH said oh I am over the moon with joy and that she should see me with them. Right on cue, I came up and scooped my DS2 up and tickled him while putting him up on my shoulders. I then began chasing DS1 up the stairs tickling him as he was climbing them. She said to DH that he is the luckiest man to have a wife so good with boys. DH said he is and is indebted to me [emoji4]! I had no idea of their conversation- I was just doing what I always do!
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Bura- shoulder dystocia definitely is a traumatic birth. And it certainly is more likely in larger babies. It's so hard to not think the next birth will go the same way or worse, especially when that's all you know. I can certainly understand that. My first birth was also traumatic. I was so scared I'd end up in the exact same situation, another cesarean or worse an emergency csect.
I only had good intentions in my previous note, please believe that. I had no one to give me advice or inform me with any decision making the 1st time around. I'll aways wonder if I had been informed if it would have made a difference. I knew I wanted better for my next birth I did a lot of research, found an amazing doula and a completely supportive OB who specialized in traumatic previous births and VBACS. My 2nd birth was very healing for me. I realized I wasn't broken and my body could do it.
All I'm saying is get informed by multiple sources on all of your options and then make the decision that works best for you and makes you and babe feel taken care of.
If you do chose a cesarean you can also Google 'gentle cesarean' and ask your doc if they can accommodate it. It's fairly new and helps with making you very much a present part of the cesarean and promotes bonding too.
Best wishes no matter what you choose.
Yes fluid all fine and head just a week smaller, it was the thigh bone that was measuring few weeks smaller. Haven't heard yet if want to rescan me, trying not to worry, I'm definitely getting bigger so baby is growing, even if not quite at rate should be just now. Just praying healthy and fully grown when born.Quote:
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EJ no worries i am sorry if you felt you upset me that was most def not the case at all. I am very strongly considering being brave enough to bring this baby into the world the same way i did the other two and hoping for the best... My dr isnt pushing me for the c section either so thats good... Its just that when i broke down sobbing in his office early on about how scared i was and begged him for the option to choose this time if i was concerned near the end he said he would make a note to make it happen if thats what i wanted. Poor guy, lol
husband brought home a kitten today...
there is no smiley to adequately describe my feelings on this...which are neutral at best...but for pregnancy related reasons.
Any of you have kittens or cats while pregnant? whats the deal with toxoplasmosis..am i able to change this box at all? because i already had an incident that my hubby wouldnt take care of where the baby stepped in his own poop and i had to get it cleaned off his paw so he wouldnt drag it all over my carpet and furniture and infect me that way...just wondering if notorious hand washing is enough to avoid contamination :(
and yes, DH knew the toxoplasmosis thing..doesnt seem to really believe i'll contract it or the unborn baby im guessing is his only excuse...
Yes it's true. Wear gloves- I use the cleaning ones. Chances are the kitten is free of it but still wear gloves just in case.
Basically toxoplasmosis occurs in cats from eating infected mice/rodents. Once they get it, it always remains in their intestines and shed in their feces. By wearing gloves and washing hands thoroughly, you'll be fine. Have your DH scoop the litter box, preferably. All you have to do is get a litter box, put in a scoopable litter (It's easier), and show the cat where to go to the bathroom. You may have to show the cat, if they mess, but they really prefer litter over your carpet [emoji6]. If your DH doesn't believe it, PM me and I'll point you to some reputable sources online. Better yet, have him call a Vet clinic they will tell him it's legit [emoji6].
FYI, I am a certified veterinary technician, certified pharmacy technician, and a science teacher [emoji6].
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XX thank you so much. He knows the risk so pointing it out wont make a difference, i think he just thinks its really unlikely for anything to happen and that its not as common as what ive heard and know it to be...
is the litter box the only concern then? my biggest concern so far was earlier when i saw he got poop on his paw and if i hadnt snagged him out of the box and wiped him off immediately he would have walked it all over the kitchen and living room... :/
The main concern is handling the poop. As long as you have gloves on and wash your hands well, you'll be fine. I'm sure as your cat gets used to the litter box, these types of accidents won't happen.
Tell your DH that a friend of mine ignored the risks and had a two miscarriages back to back and a baby that was still born that tested positive for Toxoplasmosis. This was in 2008! She knew the risks well, but she thought that it wasn't that common. This is just not so! Cats can also become infected from their mothers. Tell him he is on litter box duty, and only wear gloves of you must. Don't tell him of course! My DH always does litter box duty of I'm pregnant OR nursing. It just isn't worth taking a chance on, you know?
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OMG Bura, I must admit I'm (putting it mildly) shocked at the fact that your DH brought home a kitten without asking you first and then downplaying the Toxoplasmosis risk...AND refusing to address a poop-on-paw issue. I would be livid and bringing that kitten back. I guess the children would be heartbroken then. But bringing an animal into the home during pregnancy is just a big no-no from me. You have enough on your plate if not the additional stress of caring for an animal, especially one that can infect a pregnant woman with a dangerous disease for baby.
I don't know if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that if you've had cats as a child, you most likely have Toxoplasmosis in your blood already. But I don't know if this means that your baby can't contract it in pregnancy or not with a new cat. Maybe XX knows? This information about being chronically infected with Toxoplasmosis freaked me out though, as I grew up with cats and kids aren't exactly hygienic when it comes to pets.
I'm glad you got some sort of information at Ingender. Most likely you will hear girl at your next scan. As I already said, your earlier potty shot looks 100% girl at least. I wish I could give you my boy dust though, but that's just not the way this world works unfortunately!
It's not something you contract when you grow up with cats. It's only contracted by scooping their poop that is infected with the virus without gloves or proper hand washing afterward. The virus is only shed in their feces. I don't know many children who scoop cat poop from a litter box, lol. The gloves is more of an extra precaution for pregnant or nursing women to take. Proper hand washing after scooping a litter box is sufficient to keep the virus at bay for most people (as long as they are not immunocompromised). It also is not airborne, thank goodness!! So you don't have to wear a mask when scooping litter.
HTH!!
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XX, yes I did scoop poop when I was a young teenager (11-13 years old) and I'm pretty sure I didn't wash my hands afterwards. My parents weren't very good at teaching us hand washing, they both grew up dirty on farms, I guess they thought dirt would make us stronger! I also grew up in a third world country, making the chances higher, I owned several cats in the third world, AND I changed cat litter with bad hand hygiene. I mean, it's a parasite that never leaves your body, so gross!
I am not upset with you at all Bura. I was thinking you were upset with me. I know it can be a touchy subject. I volunteer my time for a nonprofit group (ICAN) to help educate and inform women and partners on their birth options, avoiding unnecessary cesareans and promoting VBACs. It's just something I'm passionate about. I do hope it all goes well for you and that this is your healing birth!
Xx and claire - i too had lots of cats growing up. My mom had a cat that was indoor and outdoor when i was very little that was always having kittens... I had two cats grow with me in childhood after that and a pair of outdoor only cats that i owned before i got pregnant with my first baby... A part of me is convinced im probably already immune but you know how it is im paranoid anyhow... Its less the box itself im worried about and more about what happens if the kitten drags poop around on his paw. DH says he was told kitten is 8 weeks but im thinkin its 6 weeks... He is very very tiny. Oh my gosh to the still born stuff... What i was reading and what i was told is after the first trimester risk is less to an unborn baby but death sure as hell doesnt sound like less risk..
This is hard for me because i am a huge cat person and im torn between loving this kitten and fearing for the babys health jeez
I did have my scan the other day but have been busy with work.
We have a confirmed GIRL! It was fun sharing it with the family, they are very excited. My sister knew how badly I wanted a girl so she was very teary eyed and cried when kids popped the confetti balloon! It's fun telling people now that it's official. Still can't believe it. Probably won't sink in until she's here or at least until we start filling her room with the opposite of everything else I have for the boys.
Hope all of you gals are feeling well and having healthy pregnancies!
Okay i was very misinformed the risk is greater as pregnancy progesses. Awesome. Excuse me while i have an anxiety attack. Great. Is there a way to test the kitten to see if its a carrier? Equally importantly, can my dr test me for immunity? If im immune can baby still get it?
Getting rid of the kitten isnt an option. Im just not capable... My husband meant well. And i cant break his heart. I think i am going to go insane and absolutely insist he takes care of the cat box completely. Avoiding the kitten is another issue because he is already very interested in me... Ill have to become crazy religious about washing my hands whenever i have touched him or hes touched me and keep him out of the bedroom
I dunno what else i can do :(
Just popping in to say, yes you can test for immunity and you probably should. Don't assume you are immune! I was raised with cats my entire childhood (outdoor and indoor) and I got tested with my first and I am not immune.Quote:
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Just a quick thread crash...bura- we have 2 cats and my DH is the one who cleans the litter tray as they are his pets. I would advise your OH to do the same especially as he was the one who brought it home :)
Called dr's office and they put my mind at ease. I feel a bit better... But yes i will be avoiding that box like the plague.
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This is the little bugger all the fuss was about. DH says his dad is a siamese and his mom is a calico. His eyes are siamese blue :)
He wanted me to love him so bad last night but i just couldnt let myself just yet... I think maybe its time i make it up to the poor lil guy.
Omg cuteness!!!
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I wouldn't be able to get rid of that cute thing either!! I wouldn't worry about it Bura. I was a certified veterinary technician for years and my children are all healthy. You can actually be tested for it either with your OB or your GP. The cats veterinarian can test the cat but false negatives can happen in cats.
Give that cute thing a kiss for me [emoji173]️!
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Very cute cat! :awe:
Hope everyone is doing okay... I was thinking we should make a due date list/thread like the club did the few months before us... That way everyone can check and see who is getting close as time approaches, genders, and successful sways?
Sounds good count me in!
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Bura he is gorgeous sounds like he has already grown on you X
So funny story... Took kitten to vet today and he is in fact a she LOL...somehow this made me love her more.
Anyone thats a moderator that wants to make the due date list thread? What about you XX lol... If not ill get around to making it myself tomorrow im sure. I just think it would be neat to have
Hello, all!
I had to take some time away from this and all other sites for a while. I just got back from a week-long trip with the family to Disney World, which was fantastic, but seeing all the little boys around the park was pretty rough. Luckily, we were very busy the whole time, and I was able to bury my gender disappointment for the trip. Now that we're back and I'm on summer break (I'm a teacher), I'm having trouble with it again. With only 14 more weeks of pregnancy, I'm hoping to get this under control one of these days.
Glad to see everyone is doing well! Congrats on the cat; better you than me. lol
So glad to see you post SRG.
How is everyone doing? I can't believe I'll be 27 weeks this weekend, time going very quickly at moment!! Had massive nesting moment at weekend and gutted house! Dh was laughing at my obsessive cleaning behaviour lol xx
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