Part 4: Due December 2017, January, February and March 2018

Had a lot to catch up on! It makes me sad to hear all these comments, I'm trying to prepare myself as well ☹️ I just wish we could ALL get our desired gender!! It makes me not want to find out though or find out and not tell people (except y'all) but I just hate to lie and say we don't know.

Lola - you will be naming your girl Sophia after that engagement story, Sophia is your name!! Also, don't kill me but will you put the link up again for the Doppler? I'm thinking of buying it. Have you been able to use it yet?

Oh, I am so sorry you all are getting the comment too! I get them ALL the time. People just can't believe I have 4 boys. Yes, I do. And I love them all!!!! And they are all so different.
I won't be calling the midwife or getting confirmation. Even when I had it staring me in the face last time, I had my doubts. So I will always doubt until this baby is born. I will just plan for a boy and that will be it. I have told my Mom and DH (and anyone else that asks) that I am sure this one is another boy. My Mom is the sweetest and confirms that no matter what, she is just so happy that we have a healthy little one. She has a gut feeling that this one is a boy as well and she is usually right. :)
With everything I went through just to get to this point, I know this little boy has fought hard to be with us. Now I think that I might have a mild case of intrahepatic cholestasis of pregnancy (ICP). This one is definitly keeping me on my toes. But if that is the case, I will have to be induced early. I am not sure how I feel about that. So I just take one day at a time.

Sky-love your dd's beautiful reaction!! [emoji173]She sounds like such a fun & happy girl!! ...And your family's reaction...what a wonderful surprise!! I'm so glad you told your fam after DH's fam & they were able to lift your spirits! [emoji173][emoji173]

Nacire-I would also go with ob#2. He sounds just as awesome & also will give you the attention you need! I realllly like having my OB there for all of my births. If he also has excellent reviews, I wouldn't hesitate to go with him & like others have said...see how your 1st appt goes with him!
Shann-Your mom sounds wonderful & I'm glad you have her for support! Was DH hoping for a girl or does it matter to him? My DH always said that he wanted our #3 to be a girl, but just recently he said "I wouldn't mind another boy, I love my boys." That made me feel better [emoji170]
Srg-I was freaking out b/c I had a dream I was having a girl & thought the same about dreaming opposite. XX reassured me that she dreamed she was having a girl several times & she is in fact having a girl! Well, just had another dream....this time dreaming I was having sextuplets-all boys! So I've had a dream both ways now & believe pbn is so right! Dreams are just your subconscious processing thoughts, fears, what we've seen throughout the day etc. I actually had a dream last night that all of us were in a room together partying...strange b/c I don't know what most of you look like, but I do remember seeing Ash's beautiful hair!
Kat-thanks for that! I do feel that Sophia is the name & I will be settling if we don't use it. Here's the one catch. DH's mom said that she felt like DH's brother & wife didn't seem as excited as they should be about their first arriving so soon and she worries something is wrong & they just aren't saying anything. DH & I believe that his mom is just worrying for no reason, but who knows....maybe she has some time of momma's intuition! I hope & pray there is no reason for her concern! I do think it would be unkind of us to use the name if their baby does has some type of issue(I believe baby is healthy). They are due very soon, so I will just keep them in my prayers & see how life plays out!
I tried the Doppler out, but so far I can only hear my heartbeat. I know it's early and there could be factors like location of the placenta that could be making it harder to hear. I can't wait for it to work though!!!!
Here's the link:
Sonoline B Fetal Doppler with 3Mhz probe in Pink
It comes in pink or blue & arrived quickly!

Lola - that is crazy that your MIL is worried. They could just be scared about bringing the new baby home. I know we all go through that. Even us old timers. It is a change no matter what. Praying that everything is fine with their little one.
DH was really hoping for a girl for me. I don't think he really cares one way or the other. But he has been so supportive of me and all my crazy ideas. He is awesome.

Naci - I agree and I would go with Dr #2 and see how you fell with him.

Srg - sorry you are having crazy dreams. I never dream of the baby so I can't help, but I agree that it does not mean anything. HUGS

Sky - glad you are back and that DD is so happy for a little sibling! It helps to remind you of the important things in life and that you def made the right decision to have another one. :)

Shann-thanks, I think you're exactly right! DH's brother & wife are prob just tired & overwhelmed at the thought of bringing home their first baby. His brother is not very talkative/expressive to begin with, so that may be part of it, but I really can't imagine there being something wrong & them not telling anyone. I pray that we will find out soon that all is well!
That is so wonderful for you to have DH's support through all of this!! Sounds like he's happy if you're happy!! [emoji173]

Pretty much. He just wants to make me happy. Thus 5 kids!!! :D

lol Lola that dream is funny that you remember my hair [emoji38]. I also don't think much into dreams I've had a dream we're having boy and a dream it's a girl and I don't remember dreaming anything gender with my other 4 I think it's just the pressure we're putting on ourselves.
NACIRE I'd go with #2 also the more attention the dr can give you the better in my opinion. You don't want to have to wait forever if your having a scare.
Shan I agree you mom is the best ❤️ we should all have someone special and supporting in our lives. My parents also know I swayed and they're the only ones I've told. They haven't made any comments I think they're honestly scared to [emoji1325] [emoji12]
Lola I think your conworker going with savannah is a sign you need to stick with Sophia! You'll see your co worker much more than your family member.
Sky Dd sounds wonderful if we could just all funnel ourselves to the ones closest and most excited we'd be in good shape.



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has anyone else had headaches during any of their pregnancies?

i never had them with any of my boys but did have them a lot with my girls, im not putting this down to gender i do think its just the way its worked out for me (though i'll admit its hard not to put it down to gender haha when i have symptoms that i never had with any of the 4 boys but i did have with each of the girls.. and im getting them all again this time)

ive had a headache every day this week including one all day today.. the sickness has basically gone :D but it seems the headaches have now moved in and taken its place.

has anyone else had headaches during any of their pregnancies?

i never had them with any of my boys but did have them a lot with my girls, im not putting this down to gender i do think its just the way its worked out for me (though i'll admit its hard not to put it down to gender haha when i have symptoms that i never had with any of the 4 boys but i did have with each of the girls.. and im getting them all again this time)

ive had a headache every day this week including one all day today.. the sickness has basically gone :D but it seems the headaches have now moved in and taken its place.

I've always gotten really bad hormonal headaches right before af. I had a few in the beginning for like nearly two weeks but haven't had any since thankfully. I am just so much sicker this time! Since I've hit the 12 week mark I've started throwing up in the am as soon as I get out of bed so basically just stomach bile [emoji51] but the afternoons are still rough. Hoping if I hear girl the sickness will all be worth it!
When will you find out gender 4blue2pink? We need like a spread sheet of everyone's gender scan dates [emoji23] I'm horrible with these things


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Ash, I also get KILLER headaches about two days before af. I've had a few headaches this time, mostly over the last four weeks.


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Srg I've heard it's from the plummet of progesterone just before af . So being pregnant is good for our headaches [emoji4]


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Hi guys,
Is it ok to join this group? If so, do I need to be added? I'm due in Dec :)

Wishing everyone a happy healthy pregnancy x

Welcome Mum! Pbn3 will add you to the list. What is your due date and I see you swayed for a girl! Good Luck to you!!!

4b2p - I also had killer headaches at the beginning of this pg. I have never had them before.

Ash - sorry that you are still sick and throwing up. :( I have been lucky and only had one bout of throwing up. I usually just dry heave in the mornings.

Thank you!
It's currently 3rd of Dec 2017

Sway was unsuccessful having a little boy :)

((HUGS)) I know first had how hard that can be. I am having boy #5 as well!!!!

Shan that's pretty well what I do dry heave but without a gull bladder my stomach builds up stomach acid so it's usually a nice relief to get some out with the puking [emoji85].
Welcome mum sorry you didn't get you gender! So far we're not to successful in this group with our sways.


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Pbn3
I think that's the best thing to do - stay team green.
I also had a nipt test and really wish I didn't find out the gender and waited for a surprise.
Thankfully all seems healthy with this little bean but I was given so many mixed messages from this test in regards to gender it kind of defeated the whole purpose of the test. Good luck wishing you the best xx

Welcome MOFM. Sorry You didn't get the gender u desired. Hugs. I am
glad that the baby is healthy. Such a blessing. I want to be team green because I know I won't believe anything until I see it with my own eyes. So better to wait. [emoji52]
Does anyone else think like me?? [emoji51][emoji51]
I am so sleepy all the time. I hate cooking. It's such a drag. The smells make me crazy. [emoji30][emoji30][emoji30]
Pbn - Sorry I didn't mention. I have always been Anaemic. That's why my blood count is low. My OB is pretty prompt with msgs so she sent me one today saying she wants to test the iron levels along with the two hour glucose tolerance. 🤢🤢🤢




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Hello all,
I am trying to catch up. Welcome to all newbies.

So speaking of team green. This is my first time at it. Given my bout of depression at the BFP i am wondering if it is good for me to stay team green or not ? To elaborate; if i stay team green and hear girl (my 4th) at delivery i am afraid i will not want to hold her or look at her. I have heard of postpartum depression and how bad it can get. I wonder if i will be vunruable to it this time bcoz of just not being overall happy with this pregnancy and all. If i find out early would that give me time to adjust and get over it before baby comes i wonder.

What do u guys think ?

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Sky I HATE cooking these days!! And I've felt like if I hear girl I won't believe it. Not just because I have 4 boys but because girls have been so misread it's crazy. So I'll try my hardest to not buy anything until I get it re confirmed at my 20weeks scan


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If you are having a hard time with bile and throwing up try eating a lot of beans and protein. Beans bind to bile so it is supposed to help minimize this build up and acid reflux and what not. It may take few days though. I started eating beans a bout 4 or 5 days ago and I haven't thrown up once since. Also if you start feeling nauseated eat a peppermint or spearmint candy it helps to soothe the stomach.

Thanks so much momoffourboys! I have never heard this before maybe it's making or worse that I oppose meat these days. I'll try beans I do like black beans


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Bluebooties- I can totally understand what you mean. I keep wondering myself if not knowing is a good idea or it can backfire? I know dh will find out and he is going to tell others. So i might get a hint but we will see. It's our second and last baby so It will be hard to accept if I won't hear a boy. But I think we are stronger than we think and we will be fine. Sad but fine and thankful for the little miracle in our arms.
The reason I don't want to find out is that it's worse to know when u don't have the baby in front of you. It could just be me. Because some people think that it gives you time to
Prepare yourself. All I know is that I will be better not finding out. Not much help. Sorry.


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Welcome Mum!! Sorry you didn't hear girl, but happy baby is healthy.

I'm still going back and forth about team green but I've always heard NOT to wait til birth if you have a desire for one gender over another??? I just don't want to be sad on the birth day and honestly I've heard several friends that were?? Thoughts?


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Sky I HATE cooking these days!! And I've felt like if I hear girl I won't believe it. Not just because I have 4 boys but because girls have been so misread it's crazy. So I'll try my hardest to not buy anything until I get it re confirmed at my 20weeks scan


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I read that too with dd that's why I kept wondering until my 38 week scan. I don't want to do that to
myself again that's why team green. [emoji52]


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Kat - We are all sailing in the same boat. [emoji52][emoji52] It's so hard. I even asked dh if we can go high tech incase it's another girl. He shut me down right there. He said two is all we can afford. [emoji853][emoji853]
I look at mom's with boys and girls and I think they are so lucky.


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Blue I missed your earlier post. I completely get what your saying I would be worried about post partum as well if baby turned out to be a girl. I've never been team green and have never desired to be so I can't help you out on that part but I think you should find out you'd have time to process your feelings.


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Blue - I think I'm thinking the same way as you. I want time to prepare if I'm having another girl so that's why I'm scared of team green. I just go back and forth as to what I really want, not like it matters, I can choose but I have times where this baby being a girl excites me and time where I really want to hear boy [emoji23] Yes, I'm crazy!!


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I have my 20 w scan in september. I will think on this more but i just feel if i hear girl at birth i will burst out crying right there and make a fool of myself.
Maybe i can do what i did last time. Have them hid the sex on a paper in an envelope and then read it at home whenever i am ready and if i am not ready then i won't read it at all.


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In my experiences I always wanted to know because it always was at the back of my mind because my husband's family were very adamant that it had to be a girl this time. So I had to prepare myself for the disappointment of others around me and the comments I would hear. As a matter of fact they would make it my fault because they said I just couldn't carry a girl because I had had 3 miscarriages already. But i also never told them the sex until baby was born i just prepared myself because of this specific reason. At this point my husband even blamed me that I couldn't have a girl and actually he was upset about it. For our 3rd and 4th boy he cried he wanted a girl so bad. Our 5th child I told him this is her he just kept telling me I'll believe it when I see it but he never let go of I couldn't have a girl until she was here. But before our 5th child i prayed and prayed and cried and cried but it wasnt necessarily because i didnt have a girl it was because I felt like an invalid person because of how they treated me about the whole situation. So i believe that my daughter was really because God heard my prayers and felt the tears of pain i had because of all of this. Anyway, ever since they found out that I am pregnant again all that is said yet once again is this better be a girl. Sorry that you all have to go through all these comments because honestly for me the comments are what caused my gender depression. I was perfectly fine with all my wonderful boys. I mean sure I wanted a daughter but I loved my boys and I wanted to be happy and celebrate them like they should be but because of those comments it ruined that for me because the comments made me depressed. I don't care what others think, every life is such a miracle whether boy or girl and they should be treated that way. Sorry for rambling just thought maybe it would help someone else out.

Sky - I wanted our 2nd to be another girl though! I think sisters are just about the sweetest thing and if I was going to have 2, I wanted 2 girls. But, I know you want one of each!


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Bluebooties I agree with sky sometimes we are stronger than we think and surprise ourselves with how we deal. But in saying that you also need to know when to accept you may need some help in dealing. When is your next ob appt? I would discuss with him/her about finding out gender after your 20w scan (agree with you very much about having it written down and opening when you're ready) and that you may descend into depression upon seeing it. Especially if you have had depression before, you'll be way more susceptible with all the hormonal changes going on in your body. Better to be prepared (both yourself and your ob) so if you do find yourself heading into depression he/she can have a plan (and script) ready for if required. I do honestly think that its better tackled now than at birth. There are far, far more hormone shifts going on at birth without adding gd right on top of it. Let us know what you decide and the important thing is to keep talking, whether with someone you trust IRL, your ob and of course us here. Don't turn inwards xxoo

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Blue & Kat-It's really hard to say what is best for you. I was team green with DS2 & there was absolutely no way I could feel disappointed when I was holding this beautiful, perfect baby boy in my arms! It was love at first sight & I truly never looked back! He is a momma's boy too! This time around, knowing it's my last baby...I feel very strongly about the need to find out what direction my life is going to take sooner than later!!! I don't know how much longer I can take the gender comments/guesses. I'm so impatient this time around & the sooner I know, the sooner I can move forward...either accepting the finality of being a boy mom or preparing for a little princess. I think I will go bonkers if I spend my whole pregnancy hoping for a girl. Just my thoughts, but each person is different and may handle coming to terms with it differently. I really wish we could all get our desired genders! I always thought I'd have a girl, then a boy.

Ok catch up time!

Lola I agree with Kat that you absolutely have use your name Sophia, your and dh's story demands it! Oh and sweet is your dh 😀 Lol about your dream and Ash's beautiful hair 😂 Ash give us all hair envy!! Also hope everything is ok with your BIL's first child. Everyone reacts and deals with things differently. I cant imagine them not reaching out if something was wrong.

Shann can you give a brief explanation as to what ICP is? Hope its nothing serious ❤
Your mum sounds amazing! Mine has barely acknowledged this pregnancy and I wish I didn't have to tell her three weeks ago (I cant lie to her 😣 and she asked point blank if we were done with 'the baby thing') I don't know if she disapproves because of my age or my mc history but she never even asked how my scan went after I asked about how her husbands follow up appt went (they were on the same day which I have no doubt she remembered or maybe she didn't bother remembering) I refuse to anything more about it to her unless she asks first as its to upsetting. She has always been my go to person for anything so feeling a little alone in that area....

Mumoffourmonkeys (MOFM) hi and welcome 😀 will add you to our ddg info on page 1 as soon as I've posted this! Sorry you didn't hear girl but happy your baby boy os healthy xxoo and thank you for your team green input. I didhave gender done in the nipt but have no intention of asking :) I was so strongly team green before my nuchal scan then went crazy for a day or so wondering if I should find out but happy to report I'm fully back on team green with no intention to leave again :)

Sky I am absolutely exhausted by the evening and have little energy for cooking. Sometimes I prepare something during the day so it just needs cooking off, or putting in the oven etc but mostly I look for super easy things to cook 😆 like Ash I've gone off meat and haven't had it for about 1.5 weeks now...
Glad your ob is on the ball and let us know how the tests go ❤

Kat if your gender desire is strong enough to make you question whether you'll be sad atbthe birth then I'd lean towards finding out. I wouldn't rely on the 'seeing baby and all your sadness will be gone' theory as everyone is different and processes things differently. It really is a tricky situation finding out vs discovering at birth and I don't envy you or anyone making that decision. Trust in yourself that whatever you do will be the right decision for you xxoo

Mumoffourboyz I'm so sorry for those horrible comments and attitudes you had to deal with especially from your own family 😠 especially with a history of losses!! It is beyond inappropriate of them to make ANY comment other then their relief that bub is doing well. Thsi just makes me want to cry, especially your comment about loving and celebrating your boys as they deserve but those stupid comments ruining it for you. SMH at those people.


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Sky - I wanted our 2nd to be another girl though! I think sisters are just about the sweetest thing and if I was going to have 2, I wanted 2 girls. But, I know you want one of each!


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I do since we won't be going for third. Dh and I will be fine either way. It's just the family's hopes and wishes that adds the pressure. They are very sweet about it but couldn't stop from saying how they wish it's a boy. [emoji52][emoji52]


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Pbn my next appointments are july 17th a d august 11th then i get my 20 week scan on september 8th.

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Ok then i think i will have then write it down for me bcoz u r right pbn3 if i need help dealing with the emotions i will have time far in advance of baby's arrival. So ladies i think my status is team green till i find the will power in me to read the paper.

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I've always gotten really bad hormonal headaches right before af. I had a few in the beginning for like nearly two weeks but haven't had any since thankfully. I am just so much sicker this time! Since I've hit the 12 week mark I've started throwing up in the am as soon as I get out of bed so basically just stomach bile [emoji51] but the afternoons are still rough. Hoping if I hear girl the sickness will all be worth it!
When will you find out gender 4blue2pink? We need like a spread sheet of everyone's gender scan dates [emoji23] I'm horrible with these things


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oh ash thats awful theres nothing worse than throwing up bile :( im sorry your still so sick fingers crossed it passes soon! i was ok in the mornings but by the evenings it would start to set in and if i didnt get to sleep early enough id be up most of the night vomiting.
these headaches are definitely hormonal as im drinking loads of water and feel otherwise ok, they're just annoying, make it much harder to think properly which is not a good thing considering my brain has basically fallen out this time! haha

im wanting to go team green :)