Ah, so just one is 'ready' then. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smarston3
Sounds like she doesn't think you'll O over the weekend, but I hope you got instructions from her on what to do if you do get a +OPK.
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Ah, so just one is 'ready' then. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smarston3
Sounds like she doesn't think you'll O over the weekend, but I hope you got instructions from her on what to do if you do get a +OPK.
she said only one is big enough right now to ovulate.. i said "so i get quads" and she said nooooo! so, she is definitely concerned about that. will rescan monday to see what the other ones do
exactly, my LH level is no where near high. so, you're right. doesn't think i'll get a +OPK over the weekend but doesn't want me to miss it waiting until monday. so, i'm to continue testing until thenQuote:
Originally Posted by LacePrincess
OK so what do you all think. I have not been temping because I need a break. We are bd every 3 days and I planned on an attempt at pos opk. This was yesterday. It didn't look positive to me so we didn't bd. I usually get some ewcm and a dark positive, nada yet. I am CD 10 today and usually O CD 11-13, but nothing seems normal anymore. I also had an hsg done CD 6. Am I too late? We will bd tonight. Attachment 24084
I would think that's a positive but I'm not great at reading them. Interested to see what the other gals think
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sage, I have to meet any potential sperm donors in person, so I can smell them. I believe it's crucial for immune health. I for sure couldn't use donor sperm here in Germany as they don't give it to single women. Maybe in Czech? It's possible I'll become desperate enough that a video ofcthe donor would suffice. I guess we'll see.
I truly think DF and I bring out the worst in each other. But he is an anxious/paranoid type and that I worry about being a hereditary, since I know it is on my side, wnd his mom definitely has an anxiety disorder.. When we first met DF was a super sweet guy but I admit he's always had abusive tendencies, at least towards me. I don't think he has with other women, though. Anyway...I think nurture goes a very long way and if DF continues to act badly he will only see his kid(s) once a year, and he knows that. But regardless I will try very hard to find someone for next cycle, via online dating as you suggested. I haven't tried that but I think that might be better. At least there will be pictures! I do believe in love at almost first sight, I knew within an hour with my late DH.
Lace, my charts are the same, usually promising right up until before AF, sometimes with no temp drop as warning. But I'm still hopeful for you! My cervix is also my most reliable sign, both in determining O in advance and hindsight.
Taytum, it really is an incomparable feeling of relief! As for slow rises...I don't really believe in them, or rather I think they're rare, but even a slow rise would have more rise than your recent temps, unfortunately. And as XX said, I often see what looks like a slow rise initially but ends up being delayed O, including in my own charts.
XX, how close are your OPKs to positive?
smarston, what CD are you? I think it is unlikely all 4 follies or even most will actually O, as others have said.
dj, that looks ALMOST positive. Are your positives usually blaring or not so much? You still have time to O so I'd stick to every 3 days until you see a definite positive, which I think will likely be tomorrow or the day after at the latest.
djmommy....not quite but 75% or so? Took me about 36 hours to go from what you have to an actual positive.
Though I do find the cheapie tests annoying because the dye isn't always even. Like on my +OPK only the left half of the line was 'as dark' as the control, so it was positive but the entire thickness of the line wasn't the same so it was a bit irritating.
maiden, I learnt a long time ago not to believe ANYTHING in the 2WW, lol!! Right now I'm looking forward to Monday because it will be JUNK FOOD BINGE DAY. Yeah!! So no matter what I'm getting pizza and fried chicken and poutine and sushi. :D
That is what I thought too. Usually when I get a positive, it comes up right away and I can tell and say, oh yea that is positive. Sometimes the cheapies can be super frustrating but I guess that is why they are cheap...hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by LacePrincess
We will bd tonight and I will keep testing and temp! Really didn't want to but will to try and confirm O. Thank you.
Jealous! Sounds yummy!Quote:
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Sounds like something fun to look forward to, Lace!
You ladies almost have me convinced I should start tracking cp. I've read about how to do it, I just can't get over the ick factor. If you've never done it before, when it the best time to do it first, in the 2ww or right after af?
Maiden, I'm sure you can find the right person. It's an odds game. Dating was hard since I tend to be so shy. I heard about the woman who challenged herself to go on 100 first dates, so I committed myself to initiate contact with at least 5 ppl per week with the online dating. If they wrote back, we chatted awhile via email then phone. If it went well, we'd try meeting in person. I think I only made it to 8 in-person dates, plus one who stood me up (said he couldn't find our meeting spot, ha! instant disqualification). And one of those ended up being dh. It was not love at first sight for either of us, but there's no doubt we're soulmates. It was sort of gradually revealed how very much we have in common on deeper levels and how we approach the world, stuff that you wouldn't grasp from a simple profile anyway. I encourage you to be open and go out there kissing frogs, so to speak! Even if he's not the one, you can learn more about what you do and don't want. That's how I got through dates I didn't like, I tried to always look at it as valuable anyway and figured I might as well find a way to have a good time. I ought to take my own advice and use that approach to bfn cycles, lol.
sage, the CP is the easiest to find when it's in its infertile state, which is low and firm. It can get harder to identify when it's softer since the cervix blends into the surrounding tissue, and if you're not sure what you're looking for it can be hard to identify. So my vote is for the week right after AF. For me in the 2WW even though I'm obviously infertile, my CP is soft and closed, so it can blend into the vaginal walls more.
Nothing icky about it! Besides, in TTC, there is no such thing, LOL. If you can insert a tampon you can handle this. Just make sure your nails are very short and and your hands are clean of course. The easiest is probably in the shower, though of course then it's hard to tell what the CM is like if you're standing in the shower.
Almost positive DJMommy!
Maiden- I am getting almost positives on my Wondfos so I should get a positive opk sometime within the next 2-3 days.
Lace- I have a cheat meal once a week and a complete cheat day the first day of AF. Enjoy!!
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Do you guys find that your OPKs gradually get darker or they basically go from nothing to wham positive?! This is my first month using Wondfos so not sure what to expect.
And so I can stop obsessing over slow rises?! Haha. OPKs have gotten a lot lighter so I think it's still a week out. Which sucks since we'll be on vacation Thursday-Sunday next week and sharing a hotel room. [emoji15][emoji16] hopefully we can still sneak away if O hasn't come!
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Wondfo opks fade in from light to dark.
We had risky sex when ttcing DS1. We BD in between DH's Aunt's visitation and the funeral [emoji15]. The US dated conception on that day!
Do what you gotta do- just don't get caught [emoji6]!
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Joining the group, 2WW for me also:)
Welcome sc1411! FX and GL you caught the egg!
Are you swaying boy or girl?
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Thanks XX!
I'm swaying boy. Hope I did it right, I got pos OPK in the evening, couple of days ago, so we dtd that evening, next morning and next evening. Before the last evening attempt I had terrible cramping and stomach and back pain. I think it was ovulation or conception? Have no idea. I think it was enough, we dtd before every other day. Just paranoid if i had enough attempts for a boy, LOL:)
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LOL I think you've BD'ed enough, definitely! And the cramping would be ovulation related, you can't feel conception and implantation wouldn't occur till quite a few days later.
sage, I agree with Lace, start checking your cervix when AF ends. I don't find it gross at all but then my dad was an obgyn! Even just one cycle of checking your cervix daily will teach you a lot. Plus it's easier for those of us who haven't given birth. DEFINITELY keep your nails short, at least on one middle finger (I have small hands so it's the only finger that reaches when my cervix is high). When you check your cervix you will sometimes feel EWCM at the opening despite seeing none when you wipe, so that is helpful info too.
I totally agree about dating being an odds game (though I also believe strongly in fate), and I would be dating up a storm if it weren't for my physical limitations/where I live. Though I definitely already know EXACTLY what I like/want so I don't think I'd learn much more in that regard. I was pretty slutty in college and my 20s and I have always been very decisive.
Unfortunately I don't think we can learn much from BFN cycles since usually the reasons are beyond our control. It would be nice to know why exactly though.
Taytum, Wondfo OPKs almost always show progression for me but occasionally I have cycles where my OPK darkens out of the blue. Who will you be sharing the hotel room with? Like a suite with multiple bedrooms?
sc1411, welcome! How many DPO are you exactly? I agree the cramping etc is likely due to O, conception can't be felt. You definitely BDed enough for a boy, great job!
Ladies, I woke up this morning and my temp was 100.58! I checked twice! At first I thought it was from sleeping next to a spacs heater but it quickly became apparent that I am actually sick. Super congested, sore throat, headache, all over body aches plus obviously fever. I manually adjusted the temp but I know I can't really know what my temp would be. I didn't want to discard bc that could affect my cross hairs. Of course I get unreliable temps on 1 & 2DPO, the worst time ever! Plus I've had pretty strong R O pain today. So who knows when I Oed for sure. At least I BDed again, very happy about that now!
I haven't felt this sick since I had Lyme's the summer before last. Before then, I had the worst case of stomach flu right around O last time I got pregnant in Feb 2012. I'm hoping it will help me get pg again!
Thanks for your support, ladies!
pos OPK was earlier than I expected,
I'm 2 DPO now:)
sc1411- good job with the Bding! FX for a blue bundle for you!
Maiden- I have good vibes
this cycle for you. There is something I can't quite put my finger on, but I wouldn't be surprised if you will get your BFP this cycle or next!
AFM- still waiting for positive opk. Acupuncture is definitely balancing out my hormones. I haven't felt this peaceful or relaxed ever!! I'm glad that I won't ovulate so early like last cycle so I have a decent lining built up.
I am excited to see more BFPs soon! If everything goes well, we should see an explosion of them, since there are a lot of us cycling together!
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maiden, boo on being sick. :( We've had yet another cold going around our house...ugh dance studios are just petri dishes with all the barres and such that you don't have a choice about touching. Ugh so tired of this winter!!
sc1411 - whoohoo! That is always a pleasant surprise!
Beautiful chart Lace! I'm Xing everything for you!
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sc1411, yay we are O buddies! Will you test early or wait until AF is late? I will test on 12DPO (March 18th) since I have an RE appt that same afternoon so I need to know before going in...I guess I will cancel if I'm pg?
XX, thank you, I REALLY hope you're right. I think your increased EWCM/more days of fertile CM and Oing later are great signs of yoiur hormones returning to optimal levels. Good work on the regular BD!
Lace, I really agree about your chart, your temps are definitely higher than usual, fx! I truly don't know how I got sick since I rarely leave the house especially lately...I guess I got something at the grocery store ealier this week? Or maybe 10 days ago when I hung out briefly with a few friends. I DO hate this time of year. And yeah, barres must help transmit viruses with the porous wood, even if they were wiped down regularly.
Feeling a little less awful, I think my fever broke, but I'm losing my voice which sucks. I napped a lot and will sleep more now, hopefully I feel better in the am. I have zero appetite, I had to force myself to eat and everything was tasteless, a sure sign I'm truly sick...I had juice, soup, and a raw fruit & nut bar.
Do you think it's okay to take sudafed for my congestion & throat? How about ibuprofen?
Thanks ladies. :) Of course I hope so but symptom spotting in the 2WW is a short trip to crazyland for me, LOL. Too many times of having my heart broken with false hope in the past. So I try real hard to assume I'll be moving onto the next cycle, I get very tired of that horrible crestfallen feeling. I'm cynical huh? ;)
Maiden, ibuprofen is a big no-no (interferes with implantation) but not sure about Sudafed. If you're worried about it a cup of hot water with lemon and a spoonful of honey has always worked just as well as those Cold remedy formulas for me.
Maiden, awesome! Yes, I will test early:)
I also heard that ibuprofen is a bad idea while TTC. Maybe try some hot tea instead.
I'm not an expert, but I think being sick during ovulation sways pink:fx:
Maiden I am sorry you are sick. Hoping it passes quickly for you and you get your beautiful BFP soon.
Lace your chart really looks amazing!
XX I am so glad to hear that acupuncture is going so great for you. If I make it to the next cycle (ugh) I am giving it a try.
I am still waiting for my positive opk as well. They keep going dark and light, I am so confused. I started temping today and still in pre O range so I will continue bd every 3 days and using opks. I am CD 11 today. I usually have fertile cm by now but Nada! Hoping I am making a good egg and great lining.
Good luck to everyone this cycle. Can't wait to see all the beautiful lines! FX FX
Maiden- I hope you feel better soon! After all that you have been through this cycle, I pray you get a BFP!
DJMommy- looks like we are cycle buddies! I am a day behind you, CD10, and I am waiting for positive opk too! We are BDing every 2-3 days. I have a hard time telling DH no on the weekends! At this point, as long as it doesn't end up being every other day, I don't care!
FX we see more BFPs soon!!
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dj, sounds like a good plan! That's what I aimed for this cycle.
Ladies I just woke up before 6 am (so 4-5 hours sleep) bc I was having awful chills, pretty sure my fever is going back up (see my latest temp, 99.68, not adjusted). Also I have completely lost my voice. My throat is KILLING me. Keep in mind I am on continuous high dose opiates so if I can feel the throat pain so badly despite that it's really bad. I'm afraid I have strep (I've had the bad kind severely a few times) bc that's the only time I get such a severe sore throat.
Since the house has no heat at the moment I'm not very inclined to leave bed to go make tea. Also drinking is hella painful so I'm dehydrated. I did try sudafed but I don't think it helped. I just want Monday to come so I can go to the dr!
maiden - yuck strep! :( I'm sorry you feel so poorly. I hope you can get lots of rest today. Does honey not help?
Oh Maiden I am so sorry. Praying for you to get better quickly.
Maiden, hope you will get better soon.
Maiden- that stinks! I hope you get well soon. Monday can't come soon enough! Too bad there isn't a walk in clinic or an urgent care facility so you could get diagnosed and antibiotics.
If you do get out of bed, make a pot of tea and put it in a thermos, if you have one, and keep it by your bed. That way you won't have to keep getting up to get hot liquids. DH always does that when he gets Strep. Unfortunately for him, the boys and I are carriers so we only get mild sore throats at best or postnasal drips, but everyone else gets Strep. I've learned to take our temps when we have mild throat irritation- if we have a temp we will get others sick.
Hang in there honey!!!
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So sorry to see you're sick, Maiden! I was just going to say, you may have strep, as I always spike a temp, throat is so sore and it comes on quickly. I hope you get to feeling better soon and you make it to a doctor!
Xx: I'm starting to think I need to try acupuncture to start relaxing or balancing hormones. So frustrated right now! [emoji17]
Lace: Your chart looks awesome! Loving the upward motion!
Temp hasn't done much the past few days. Still some on and off right ovary pain which makes me think that either I haven't O'd yet, or I have and I have low progesterone, hence low temps after dip. I don't know, but both scenarios make me want to cry right now. Just so frustrated since we began TTC in October with four months anovulatory, last month a chemical, and now this frustrating cycle. Just...ugh.
Okay, pity party over. Gotta keep moving on!
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TaytumJ- hugs! I'm so sorry you have to go through this! As someone who has been struggling to conceive, cycle 9 now, I feel no one should have to go through this!
It can take a bit after a chemical for your body to conceive. I feel the body needs a cycle to recover in order to restore fertility. When we were trying for DS2, it took two cycles after a chemical to conceive.
There is still hope! I am [emoji120]for you and sending blue dust your way! [emoji8][emoji92][emoji843][emoji170][emoji843][emoji94]
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Thanks, XX! Trying not to be so hard on myself, but since none of this has been "normal" since going off BC I just feel lost. Of course then, I seem to find a million things to google online about it and when I'm done I'm convinced I have PCOS, endometriosis, or something else. I need to just let go of it all and leave it to a higher being.
Update on pity party: this was my 12:30 OPK today. http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...6b7328f612.jpg
Maybe in a few days? All hope isn't lost?
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Lace, I found some lemon honey drops (hard candy with real honey soft center) also the same type of drops but with elderberry juice/extract, and those have been helping. I even regained my voice! I know menthol drops would be even better but I hate the flavour and there's only one brand here I tolerate, but I don't know where to buy it. Plus so much is closed on the weekends here, basically everything.
XX, there are NO walk in or urgent care facilities open on the weekend here. Maybe in Berlin or Munich? But not near me, I've looked and asked extensively. Just the emergency room but they won't deal with non life threatening cases. It is super annoying. So much being closed on the weekends, especially Sundays (which are like Christmas in the US, only gas stations and restaurants open), as well as the really limited Dr's hours (only open until noon on Wed and Fri) drive me nuts. Also even in big cities, most restaurants/kitchens close very early, like 9pm. It is by far the thing I hate most about living here. And I'm extra spoiled bc of my time living in Manhattan.
I have a tiny thermos and a tiny teapot that each hold like 1.5 cups of liquid, so not worth it. It's also very difficult to find glasses/mugs that aren't tiny, same with teapots and thermos. And cereal spoons don't exist here. They only have ginormous soup spoons and tiny sugar spoobs, nothing in between. Also the pillows and sheet sizes here are terrible. The former are too big (80x80cm) and the latter too small (they're actually duvet covers, true sheets being almost impossible to find, and they are much too wide and too short (on a 100x200cm mattress, the duvet cover is 135×170cm or something like that)). IDIOT GERMAN SIZING!
Taytum, I am 100% positive you haven't Oed yet. But that OPK looks promising, is it your darkest so far?
I have been even sicker today. My neck is super tense, swollen and achey. For most of the day I had one of the worst headaches ever. My whole forehead felt like it was being hammered and across my cheekbones was very tender due to sinus pressure, and I had migraine pressure behind both eyes. Yesterday I had a headache too (since I woke up sick/feverish I've had a permaheadache, it just varies in severity) and I took 400mg ibuprofen accidentally (DF brought it to me instead of aspirin) and I think that's why I was feeling better last evening. I forced down liquids and upped my opiates and that seemed to help, though it took a few hours. I even managed to eat a little, not happily.
I hope it's strep so that antibiotics will fix it! I can't imagine feeling like this for much longer. The exposure/manifestation time line for strep matches up with when I last went out. Thank you all SO much for the well wishes and listening to me vent! I don't get sick very often but when I do I usually get VERY sick.
Oh Maiden, i'm so sorry you're so sick. wish there was something we could do..but, we can keep you company while you are laying in bed :).
so, i've been using Wondfo OPK's with the green handles..haven't ever seen a + in two months. i'm concerned that maybe i have knock offs and they don't work. can anybody suggest another brand? going into RE tomorrow for BW/scan. today is day 12. took clomid 3-7. so, i was expecting to see an almost + today. any thoughts?
Sounds good, sc1411, hope you caught a blue one! I'm also swaying blue and o'ed about when you did with that lovely full moon. When are you planning to test?
Maiden, sorry to hear your sick. At least it sways girl, right? Get well soon! That's very interesting about the different sizes they have there for common items.
Lace, do your boys do dance or do you? I've got my dd started on classes, although we haven't been there for awhile due to snow.
djmommy and Taytum, I'm also doing acupuncture and recommend it!
Something different this cycle for the 2ww, my chest hasn't been as sore but my thighs are. It's like the skin is sensitive. I had this in puberty and I think around when ppaf started, so I know it's related to off balance hormones. Hopefully they're flowing better since the acupuncture and will go the right way soon. "The Infertility Cure" book says it takes at least 3 months. How long have you been getting acupuncture, XX?
Another oddity: My temp was exactly to the hundredths the same yesterday and today despite the time change.