I am now thinking I ov'd last night yesterday. I had terrible ov pains yesterday... I may dtd tonight as if I ov'd days ago it wont matter anyway and if not ill be in with a tiny chance of O+???? xx
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I am now thinking I ov'd last night yesterday. I had terrible ov pains yesterday... I may dtd tonight as if I ov'd days ago it wont matter anyway and if not ill be in with a tiny chance of O+???? xx
I really, really, really, and did I mention REALLY don't want any pink swayer doing visualization for TTC a daughter. The more you keep your "goal" in your mind and stay focused on it, it sends T levels (or whatever it is that is swaying via the Maternal Dominance Hypothesis) skyrocketing and I believe makes you significantly more likely to conceive a boy.
This is totally different than thinking about or daydreaming about having a DD and I also DON'T want you guys panicking over errant thoughts and trying to control them
IT IS NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, MOODS, FEELINGS THAT SWAY. IT IS THE ATTEMPT TO AND DESIRE TO CONTROL. Whether that entails a concerted effort to "visualize" a DD, or a concerted effort to control your thoughts so as to "not raise T levels" the net result is the same.
O pains can happen before, during and after O and can be relieved before, during and after O and you just can't use them to pinpoint when you have ovulated.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamingofwin
If you didn't attempt, by all means have an attempt.
Arimathea or anyone reading this thread, I BEG you upon bended knee NOT to add attempts. There are some people who got girls from BD every day through O (because their husband's sperm was so depleted by the time ovulation occured) and those who had several attempts with long cutoffs (because most sperm had died off by the time O happened) but neither way is the BEST way.
One attempt has gotten by far, by a whopping 30% percentage points, better results than three attempts. So if your husband is one of the many guys out there who can withstand daily release or if as more often happens, something goes wrong and you miss a day of release here and there, you set yourself up for more than one attempt in the fertile window. And with the cutoff method, if you miscalculate ovulation or swaying changes your ovulation date (which happens ALL the time), and you O a couple days earlier than you expect,you have just had 3 attempts in your fertile window which drastically raises your odds for blue. DON'T RISK IT.
I know it may feel counterintuitive but it is TOTALLY possible to get pregnant from one attempt provided that you are not doing a bunch of other things to sway. One attempt has gotten consistently better results by 20-30% points than most other sway tactics so again I BEG you to keep that one attempt in there as long as you can, even while dropping all other tactics except diet.
Atomic thanks so much - that's really comforting to read because I knew a long long time ago that I CANNOT control my thoughts and it's best to just let it happen, and then move on. I did worry a little about the daydreaming but knew I couldn't do anything just tried to stop it but now I won't. I haven't visualised anything since reading that it raises T levels.
Interestingly when TTC my DS (and not swaying) we did pray for a healthy baby but we also visualised getting PG too.
Well, according to 30Rock, all you need to do to conceive a girl is have your husband shout "SUSAN B. ANTHONY" at the moment of climax. :rofl:
All kidding aside I may just do diet and one attempt next month too but I was concerned that I had several days of positive OPKs so we did our one attempt on the first day but I had positives for two days after that. Makes me wonder if I'm missing the drop so to speak.
OH NO!! LOL Atomic popped in on our thread! LMOA I almost feel like I got caught doing something naughty! LOL J/K. ;)
Spotting has stopped today. Thats nothing really new, sometimes that happens before AF. I spot and spot and spot, then it stops, then AF shows. I'm trying to remain positive about this cycle without blowing a ton of sunshine and rainbows up my arse, but sometimes its hard to do. I did take a test today, just to pee on something and as the dye was running up the stick, the test line was positive, then went negative as the dye finished going up past the control line. Not sure what to think of that. I'll test in the morning though, so at least I wont have to wonder about it long! LOL
So, I lost track... Who's on the TWW now?
Boy, greeneyes, that sounds promising. I wouldn't be down yet...
I am in the 2ww, I think four days in, if my O indications were accurate. I am doubtful that any of the early symptoms one might feel are actually real, so checking into that thread just makes me overthink things. I am trying to jus carry on with regular life without thinking about it for now. I am not even going to test unless/until I am at least two days late, because the disappointment of bfn is just too great each time.
Thanks to all of you with your age difference stories. If this does indeed work out, I feel much better about the situation we are in. Man, I hope it works this time! I did have a baby dream last night, and I honestly have been trying hard not to dwell on it, so it was funny to have the dream. Time will tell!
My fingers are crossed for you this month still, greeneyes!
I'm in the TWW, too. I'm trying not to think about it. I expect AF the first week of March, so I'll probably start being a basket case then. Though, I fully expect a bfn this month.
I am only 1 DPO if I estimate when my O was correctly. So I have awhile to test. Work the next two weeks will keep me busy and I have a somewhat busy weekend so hopefully it will go fast.
My DH is such a clueless man sometimes! He literally walked up to me tonight and said, "So are you pregnant?" I was like "I won't know for 2 weeks!" and he was so confused. He was thinking pregnancy was instant. Oh boy. I wish!
I also expect a BFN this month. Mostly because we only DTD 1 time the day of my 1st +OPK with an 8 day abstinence. I also had minimal EWCM for the 2nd month in a row. I normally have EWCM 3 days before O, but none this month other than a little bit the day we BD'd at the +OPK. Not sure what that sudden change in that means, so I sort of expect the swimmers had a hard time. Can a smaller amount of EWCM be diet related? I only really did the diet like 3 weeks but since I am so on the edge of being too thin, I feel like skipping breakfast and not snacking affected me more than a normal person, since there is not any weight to mess around with, but I could be wrong...who knows. :-)
Lol teachermom! That sounds a bit like my DH, they think it's an instant trick! We DTD last night (going for every 4 days) and this morning DH asks if I feel different! Bless :)
If my symptoms are correct I'm also one DPO although I never got ferns or pos opk so I'm going off stomach bloating/discomfort and a bit of watery + EWCM yest. Nerve wracking to think our BD fell right on ov. But in saying that I don't really expect a BFP because I think all the other sway tactics we used will be too much with clomid.. We'll see! So our first TWW begins!!
Green eyes, I so wouldn't lose hope with that sneaky line! You never know! :)
Fingers crossed & pink wishes for everyone xx
I'm in the 2WW as well, CD22 and I think I ovulated sometime around CD15, planning on testing March 1st if AF hasn't shown up.
Greeneyes, lol, I felt the same way when I saw AS' reply, it was like, uh oh, mama sway set us straight! :hide:
I am 4dpo. I can't call it the 2ww as it never lasts 2 weeks! It was 8 days last month so I could be out v v soon! I also expect bfn this month. Zero ewcm v v dry in fact due to my back pills. Not convinced on my ov from bad pains so its either a 2 day cut off or a 4 day one!! Hopefully I'll got better at reading these cheap ov tests!
Good luck to all x
We did it!! THANK YOU ATOMIC! PLEASE PRAY PINK! :D
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Well, the presence or absence of pos OPK doesn't mean anything, the time to ovulation is from the first positive and however long it stays positive after that is really just how long it takes your body to clear the LH. It's def. possible to get pg 2 days later from one attempt anyway (both 1 dbo and 2 dbo have better odds of conception than O Day itself!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arimethia
You could also do the every 4 day method (BD every 4 days, with or without another attempt at pos OPK - if it's been more like 4 days, have another attempt, if it's only been 1 day stick with the one you have, and in between flip a coin) OR start off doing one attempt at pos OPK and then switch to the every 4 day method to cover it in case you thought your OPK may be a faker.
Oh I'm sorry, it wasn't my intention to butt in unwanted and unrequested LOL. I actually feel really bad I can't keep up with these threads and so whenever I see something go by that concerns me I try to post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arimethia
I just want as many people to get their DGs as is possible, that's why I do all this. :)
Huge congratulations greeneyes!!
How many dpo is this? Did you use rephresh? I ask as im convinced it'll stop me getting pg so plan to drop it next month.
So so happy for you! x
Hahaha, we know. We were just teasing. I kept wondering if you'd pop in, lol! Then I figured you just thought we were a bunch of hens gagegling. hahahQuote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
Thanks!! I am somewhere between 9-12dpo.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamingofwin
We did use rephresh. I used an entire application 11-14 hour before the first attempt on the night of the 6th (early morning hours of the 7th), and I used an entire application of rephresh the morning of the 9th. I didn't use antihistamines.
Is it too early to post my sway?
Hello everyone,
I've just had my implant out so my cycles are all messed up. Currently using ovulation sticks to see when I am ovulating.
Had a faint line today but not darker.
Bit confused about when to do the deed to conceive a girl though or does that not really matter?
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Yaay Greeneyes!!! Brilliant news! And perfect that you were our first when it was you who started the February thread :-) Hopefully the first of many!
So when is your due date?! Im sure you must be thrilled, was this your first month trying?
Fingers crossed for a healthy PINK bean :-)
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Originally Posted by Mamer
Thank you! I think I'm due nov 3rd. This was our first mo ttc. I have gotten pg first try with all but 1 of my pregnancies. (Dd3). Can't wait to see more of us get bfps!!
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Huge congrats greeneyes, I am so pleased for you. Praying for a sticky and healthy pink bean :)
Atomic - thank you for dropping in, maybe I'm speaking for myself but I do need to be told off sometimes lol!!! And what you came and said put my mind at ease anyway :) (lol greeneyes bunch of hens!)
Congratulations green eyes!
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OMG!!! Well done Greeneyes that gives us all hope! 1st attempt !!!
We will miss you on here though keep checking in on us all :)
xx
and thanks atomic!! your expert opinion is always welcome and much needed!
Huge congrats greeneyes! How exciting! I'm just two CDs behind you but I'm going to use all my willpower to wait to test!
We were just teasing! I'm very grateful for your input. You have officially convinced me to stick to the one attempt and LE even if I drop everything else.:bowdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush
So a positive OPK test line is as dark or darker than the control line. When you see a positive there's little doubt, it definitely as dark or darker than the negative faint line tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by lfc_sarah
I have been going back and forth with atomic about the timing/number of attempts thing for about two months and she convinced me that the one attempt at positive OPK is the way to go as far as timing and frequency is concerned.
As for the other elements my husband is doing FR every day, meaning he releases everyday outside my body from the beginning of AF until our positive OPK to lower sperm count before our one attempt. Hope that clears things up!
AS, feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect! :happy:
Yes! ONE attempt at pos OPK, or you can DTD every four days to ensure only ONE attempt in fertile window. Be sure to stick to the LE diet though! If you haven't, I totally recommend getting the personalized sway plan with the coaching forum! Well worth the money.
Greeneyes! Omg I am so thrilled for you!! Agh, that's SO exciting! It gives me hope too because we were doing a very similar sway and I'd convinced myself that all the jellies were too much with clomid (I also took zyrtek about 3 hours before DTD so not sure if that had time to work or not) but now I feel like I can actively participate in the 2WW :) I have a good feeling you'll see pink - congrats on BFP.
Ohh I wonder who'll be next! I'm only 2DPO (& that's just a guess) so I'm quite a while off testing. We'll probs still have one more attempt this month on cd 20 because my cycles have been long prior to clomid - the last was 45 days! So no idea if that was real ov or not? Anyway, we're getting more relaxed at the whole "pink production" each time we've attempted so it's only helping the quest ;) LOL x
I was just standing in my kitchen and suddenly felt a sharp pain, like being stabbed with a long pin from the top of my stomach, through my uterus and down into my inner left thigh. It was so intense I doubled over and had to lay down. It only lasted a few seconds.
:suprise: Still going to wait until next week to test, but maybe it was implantation? Ah, who knows!? :shrug:
Boy, that would be great arimethia! Fingers crossed for you! And huge congratulations, greeneyes... That is great news!
Yaaaaaaaaaay, greeneyes!!! So thrilled for you!!
Let's hope it's the first of many bfp's this month. :)
Congrats greeneyes!!!!
I would like to join your group! I have 2 boys, ages 10.5 and 4.5, and this is our first month TTC girl! Our boys were "oopsies" after DTD twice without a condom. DH is 31 and I am 32.
I got my first +OPK on Tues afternoon, which was CD13, so we BD at midnight that night after a 7 day abstain. This is also my first month off the mini-pill, but I've been charting the last 3 months and I was still ovulating and having a regular period while on it. I'm on CD15 now and haven't had a temp rise yet, but I normally O on CD15 so I'm assuming I'll get a temp rise in the morning. I'm hoping our one attempt was enough!
If I don't get a BFP this month I will be waiting till June to TTC again since I want to avoid a Dec/Jan baby and I'm in no rush to get pregnant. My boys are 5.75 yrs apart and it looks like DS2 and a new baby would have about the same age gap.
Good luck to everyone! I'm hoping tomorrow will be 1DPO for me!
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Welcome essnce629 ! Good luck arimethia hope you get a bfp too- keep us posted.
I'm waiting for my sway plan excited to see what atomic has in store for me feeling oddly relaxed about it all this month hoping that means a bfp in my near future xxxx
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Welcome, essnce629! :welcome:
I adore silver hair (I'm nearly half white/grey naturally but wish it would come in faster). Can you post a pic? I'd love to see how it turns out. :) Congrats again on your BFP!Quote:
Originally Posted by greeneyes
Oh exciting! It's nice to see someone else swaying for their first!Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaMaiden86
We have a lot in common! I also made my first attempt after just a few weeks on the diet, even though I originally planned to wait another month. But then I didn't conceive that month, or the next (though I think I missed O that time), and now here I am trying my 3rd month after nearly 3 months swaying. I relaxed the caloric restriction after a month on the diet bc I feared it was delaying O, and I also didn't have weight to lose (I was 105-110lbs, now around 118lbs at 5'7"ish).Quote:
Originally Posted by TeacherMom
I'm a little concerned about the weight gain as it's pretty much my highest weight ever, but I am usually at this weight at this time of year, and most of my past pregnancies were conceived while I was 'heavier', so maybe I need the extra weight. Like you I'm a long distance runner but have not been running recently, though I could probably pick it up again now that I've gained some weight. Then again, I don't think I've conceived before while running, only during breaks due to injuries.
I am definitely eating differently, and seeing results like a switch from 1-2 weeks of copious EWCM before to all creamy CM except for 1-2 days of minimal EWCM right before/at O. So I know the diet is doing something. Lots of us have had this effect from the diet, hopefully you will, too. Btw, I have also conceived while on BCP with no EWCM.
I sleep poorly and wake up at all different times and was shocked to discover that I could still temp and see a clear pattern. It really helps me to pinpoint O and better understand what's happening in my body. I highly recommend trying, even if you think you aren't a good candidate.
Currently I am waiting to O and literally expect to any moment. I was going to skip this month but late Wed night I decided I wanted to try and had my one BD attempt. I was pretty dry and I didn't have EWCM until the next day, at least 12 hours later, so I'm a little worried the sperm won't survive the requisite 48 hours. But after last month when I BDed 12 hours or so after O (accidentally), and the month before when it was 24 hours before O, I felt it was better to have sperm waiting in plenty of time this month. Fx my temp spikes tomorrow.
All these ladies saying they're heavy at 5'6-7" and under 120lbs are kind of freaking me out! I'm 5'6" and 136lbs and feel pretty dang thin. If I was any lighter I wouldn't have a butt or boobs. It's a healthy BMI for my height too. Are we aiming for UNDERweight? My pants are all falling off me at this point as it is!