Sway coming up! Nervous [emoji51]

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Originally Posted by Thefinalcountdown

How much does personality fit into this? How do I know my personality do you have a post about it? A checklist :D maybe I should take on some more stuff!!!


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Trust me, you have the boy mom personality, LOL! Totally. I do have an essay on it here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...nce+hypothesis I will say that a lot of people have a hard time understanding this stuff as it applies to themselves, though. I have the benefit of being the "eye in the sky" seeing a LOT of people come and go, and the genders they get, but beyond that actually having been a quintessential control freakish boy mom and then experiencing a hard situation that really forced me to come to a reckoning with how little control I truly had over anything, and it was only after that point I had a girl. It can be extremely hard to understand until you've lived it firsthand. But just rest assured that the type of extremely detailed questions you've asked me here are much more in line with what I have from my moms with lots of boys.

Ha! Well that answers that about the personality, I did get a boy being very pink friendly so maybe the personality had some say in the matter. I wasn’t eating much and losing weight at the time but was in charge of building my barn plus planning a lot of horse sales at the time. And taking care of my people. I had read that essay already lol!!! I’ve read pretty much all the essays even the ones for pink. (Stuck under a nursing baby alot plus want to knowwwwwww)
Yes I understand- not really all in on one unique thing in giant portions. After LOTS of reading and study here plus the information you’ve sent me I feel a good handle on the eating now. Just be NORMAL duh…
And the condition thing- maybe they actually weren’t declining in condition Bc a lot were working out / getting toned for wedding etc so perhaps inadvertently improving condition by gaining muscle although losing fat and then adding a bit of fat back on to really make the internal mechanisms think times were great. Like the slimming / toning signaled fight for dominance/ food then the bit of fat gain signaled success over food sources. Especially if the weight came off with a good diet. I dunno I’m talking out of my you-know-what at this point.
I was sweetening my tea with organic date syrup since I’m suspicious of stevia and it has like 2 grams of fiber per tbs so not so high in sugar. Of course I have it w breakfast not solo and whole milk in it. And do you prefer mixed nut butter or peanut butter? I’ve seen mixed opinions of peanut butter on here I know no peanut oil for sure.
Also, do you remember ever seeing a study about men who father more daughters? It was a list like pilots, auto mechanics, I think farmers and a few other occupations that involved contact with chemicals. I can’t find it now but I remember seeing it maybe you’d know.
Also also, what do you think about the “dads family and his kid’s genders” study where men with more sisters had girls and more brothers had boys? My
Hub is one of 3 boys. I’ve been observing my MIL very closely and try to do as she does/ eat how she does!


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"Declining in condition" is more of a wide category than you are imagining it.

When it comes to our body, for all it knows we're all still living on an African savannah 300,000 years ago, or in an Ice age 20,000 years ago, or someplace in between. What our bodies "want" to do is keep us alive to pass down our genes to future generations, and getting pregnant at inopportune times is not conducive to that. So when someone is losing weight, even if they've added a bit of muscle (which, it is very hard for women to add muscle anyway), the body sees that as "oh no what is going on here, where is all my food going". When I was in the very best shape of my life, I weighed 120 lbs with BMI 20.6 (and that's barely below my weight cutoff for pink swayers!!) and was totally ripped, but my period stopped for three months till I gained some back. After a couple months, my hair started falling out too. Even though I was fit and strong and could have done TaeBo for 5 hours a day my body saw that as "declined condition" in terms of my ability to get pregnant. (and I would have loved to know what gender I might have conceived during that time period, I truly would)

The human body WANTS to have some fat on itself for pregnancy. We actually need fat on us for a successful pregnancy, birth, etc. You could take a magnificent Amazon woman with fifteen percent body fat and her body thinks she is in low condition because she's too thin, even if she's super healthy. (indeed, Gal Gadot, who plays Wonder Woman, has three daughters!)

My point with all this is that we can't look at anyone's body and say "well she must have got a boy because she lost weight and was working out and was therefore in good condition" because we just can't know. This stuff happens oftentimes below the water on the iceberg, if that makes sense.

I do not want anyone to overthink this declining/improving condition and try to decline, then improve your condition because the truth is whenever you decline your condition, you're making yourself more pink friendly and then have taken two steps backwards before you even start. Start from your baseline and go from there. Not only that but I have seen quite a few people (and I myself did this with my fourth boy) who tried to "game the system" somehow, either blue swayers doing what you've been thinking about trying to decline before improving, or pink swayers gaining weight to lose it later on, and then ending up accidentally conceiving before they intended to.

Just lose weight if you need to lose weight, but NOT because you think it will help your sway. I can't say that works, because I truly don't know, and I have just seen it go bad too often for people. Fine for anyone to lose weight because they need to, but I cannot sign off on how it might sway, if that makes sense.

Date sugar or syrup is absolutely fine. I used to always have my tea with some sugar in it and got both my boys that way.

Whichever you prefer on the peanut butter. There's a big difference between peanut butter and peanut oil really. I think peanut butter is GREAT for blue and I ate it several times a week with all my sons (even the fourth one, where I was attempting to sway, I still had peanut butter just not as often)

I have seen that study for sure, I have it printed out somewhere. I can't find it in a reasonable Google Scholar search (the amount of new studies being done is mindblowing and much of what I used to take for granted back in 2010 is buried under slews of other studies and I never have the time to go back and hunt them all down) but I did find this one, which is new-ish and I hadn't seen it yet. https://academic.oup.com/milmed/arti...965?login=true

That study is interesting but the conclusion (which is that this variation is down to "genes") is nonsense. I have an explanation here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum...c+gender+study

Ok I get it I won’t beat the dead horse any more! I’m just looking for answers that don’t exist. Iceberg beneath the water answers.

I’ll definitely not be losing any weight, I already lost a bit when I started HE so I’m feeling good like I can hold steady and afford to gain 1-3 when we go for it. Already cut out coffee and powders and eating breakfast /snacks and all the stuff so if we accidentally conceived it’s better than before.


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Believe me, I WISH I had the answers, but I just honestly don't and I think it's best to do what works rather than basing anything on supposition. I see people go down rabbitholes of theorizing and it's all just conjecture, so just keep eyes on the prize and do what works and you'll have the best sway you can!

GREAT! You're on the way!! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

Yeah the rabbit holes! Lol I think after all your years of experience and research you’ve conjectured all that can be conjectured!
But but I did think of something about that study where fathers with brothers have more boys and fathers with more sisters have more girls… so you know how some guys pick wives who are just like their mom? Hmmm the wondering continues… Bc I do see lots of similarities between myself and my MIL…
Anyways, yea plan to keep fine tuning myself for a blue over then next 4-5 months gosh the last time I “swayed” for a blue was total night and day difference from this time. I was a walking girl recipe probably would get the most boy mom of 8 boys a girl sheesh….


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Yes, somewhere on here I have that "conjecture-d" on. I have a couple essays about that but didn't hunt them all down.

There are also a lot of lifestyle similarities in families - I find I cook a lot more like my mother in law than I do my own parents just because that's what my husband will eat!

Do you find a certain amount of gained weight to be particularly successful? I know you said over a certain amount sways opposite and once I get preggo I get so heavy! People always say oh you’re so tiny when I’m pregnant then nearly fall over when I tell them I’ve gained 40lbs! Here I go with the gosh darn weight again.


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No. There doesn't seem to be any "set" amount at least that we are able to tell. Keep in mind that people have different body types and are starting from different places. A person who is 6 feet tall and starts off at BMI 18.5 might gain the exact same as a person who is 5 feet tall and has BMI 24 but they would clearly be in very different places and I just don't have the ability to track all that.

Yep that's me too - I have gained as much as 60 lbs with one of my pregnancies, ALWAYS gained over 40, and I'm not that tall, nor am I super thin to start with. But people don't realize I've gained as much as I have. Everyone is different!

Can you also tell me why I have to answer unanswerable questions ;D as if you have a lab of women somewhere and can ACTUALLY measure all this stuff….

Do you think the salmon is a good bet? Only like once a week? Or just stick with the poultry and bison/ beef / venison/ elk meat?

Haha! It doesn’t matter how much I try to watch what I eat while preggo my body goes rogue and does what it wants to do!


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