New year babies !!TTC Pink in May

Yes!!! Some days I'm just so over it, over not being able to eat like I want, train with weights and monitoring ovulation, timing of sex etc!! And after our loss and then missing our opportunity of getting the first egg (cause DH "couldn't do it") I've found it really hard to get motivated again. I don't get it....I want my daughter sooooo much but I feel like I'm going through all this and then it's not going to be worth it anyway when I still don't have my daughter in my arms even if I have a successful pregnancy and baby as it will be another boy.

Cant imagine how you feel mumofsix, I feel a bit like I know it's all for no reason and I only have two boys! Love them to death but soooo badly want a girl to feel complete.

Hearing you lyagirl I'm a mum of 2 boys & #3 will be our last. My boys are darlings, if I have another so be it.... But every dream I have ever had about my life has had a little girl in it.


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Ladies I am so with you all on these feelings. We broke the rules and BD last night (2 days after the last attempt) only because we won't have time today and will be too tired tomorrow after the flight! I feel so full all the time this week I'm kind of looking forward to less food again - although I'll likely take that statement back after a couple of days lol!! I've made peace with another boy as I know that's what's going to happen. I don't have the confidence I can totally do this anymore but we will see when I get back. Really annoyed I'm not able to do an OPK today.

Mumofsix I'm so sorry to hear about what happened with your DH - I hope he comes around soon. If anyone deserves a girl, you do.

Girls I so know how you all feel too I relaxed my sway and diet this month as I was afraid I wasn't ovulating and the sheer thought of that at my stage in life (turned 39 last week!) frightened the bejaysus out of me and we also dtd 2 days in a row but like you Steph I am totally 100% ok with having a fourth little man. I would love a daughter too but I think at this stage once my baby is healthy I will be over the moon regardless of the sex. Remember you still have 50% chance of boy or girl with each pregnancy without swaying. I have lots of friends with both and not one of them ever swayed. So don't lose hope. You never know what you will be blessed with x

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Daisymoo I hope you stay in touch with us you always have great things to say :)

Thank you Daisymoo I really needed to read that tonight. I just need to chill the fuck out (pardon the French but really...!)


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Girls, I feel exactly the same!!
I have started swaying in January and I too am a bit fed up to keep up this diet to a strict level...tonight I don't care I'm having a curry take away, that is all. (Lol).

Ohhhh so jealous laVieEnRose! I said to DH tonight, I really want a meat curry from the best Indian takeaway/restaurant we have here. We compromised with LE and ended up with an entree serve of Dahl soup and a roti bread. I'm still starving and still want my takeaway curry! Lol! 😀

Although I feel bad that other people feel like I do I'm also glad in not alone in feeling it! Primalmamma that is how I was last night after my husband talked me off the ledge reminding me that we are doing something different to achieve a different result so I shouldn't expect it to go exactly like the other times and that everything happens for a reason so don't obsess about missing an ovulation chance just move on. I guess I should take my own advice since I'm constantly teasing him by singing the Let it Go song from frozen to him when he won't get over something!

PrimalMamma Your French is excused lol!!!
Steph I'm going nowhere It's great to have other swayers to chat too! Are you back to the rain yet?

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Lavie Enjoy that curry You deserve it!
And mumofsix that soup and bread sound way too healthy Bet you could fit a small curry in after that!

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Ohhhh so jealous laVieEnRose! I said to DH tonight, I really want a meat curry from the best Indian takeaway/restaurant we have here. We compromised with LE and ended up with an entree serve of Dahl soup and a roti bread. I'm still starving and still want my takeaway curry! Lol! ��

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You should have just had the curry :P But what you settled on sounds yummy too.

I have to say I'm at the point in my 2ww where I'm cheating and cheating large. The way I see it, if I am preggo this month, baby is conceived (I just don't know it yet) and has already been assigned his/her eye colour, hair colour and gender....and if I'm not, one cheat this many weeks before my next O is not going to impact a dang thing!!! I have a hard time reigning myself in during these few days. I still skip breakfast and usually red meat (tonight might be the excpetion), but otherwise, I cheat. (this post is going to come back to haunt me when I find out I'm pregnant with my third boy, isn't it???).

Am I the only one who times significant cheats during this portion of the 2ww???

Angie

Oh, I'm with you, angie! I'm in cheatsville, too. It's so hard not to in the 2ww. I'm about 12dpo and trying to hold out a couple more days before I start testing. If I get a bfn on Mother's Day, man is that going to ruin my day. So, I'm going to enjoy it with my boys (cheaty, cheaty, cheat, cheat), then test on Mon. :) I've been having long cycles lately, so even that might be too early, but we'll see.

And, Rosie, so thrilled for you!!!!! I hope we see a ton more bfps this month.

Hi Angie - I have been cheating every weekend, its the only way I could do it. If I'd had some 2WWs I would have highly likely cheated then too :) I honestly think if we didn't cheat we would go mad so it has to be done.

And speaking of I tentatively think I might actually be in the 2WW!!! I just took an opk and it was a super faint negative line - I had lines getting darker and darker the whole time on holiday and couldn't test yesterday so I am wondering if yesterdays would have been my positive? What do you more experienced OPK users think? I will take another one tomorrow to be sure. Must try not to worry now about all the holiday eating over the past week but I am guessing my body needed that just to ovulate. If I had a positive yesterday then according to the test, you ovulate 24-48 hours following the positive so I must try to have a strict day today now. Hopefully the travel back hasnt delayed it so I think I should keep testing and keep BD just in case. We last BD on friday night so hopefully that is good timing?

I think you shouldn't even think of it as cheating. It's ALL about what you eat overall not what you have one day

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Hi all, just popped on to see how everybody is doing. You've all cheered me up so thanks. I'm pretty much out this month now. Did a hpt and bfn as expected. Bloody spotting way before AF. Really wondering what my body is doing. My opks have been showing a line, no positive but they normally show nothing until nearer to O. Weird. Still finding this v difficult. Tried explaining to dh that it's like taking an exam every month and opening the envelope to find you've failed again. Anyway, don't mean to bring a downer on things. I will move on to next month but I have to say, I don't think I can do this waiting and only having one attempt for much longer.

Steph- great news you're in 2ww. I'll cross my fingers for you.

As for eating, I made tons of cakes this weekend and have been enjoying our new bread maker! I find being at work easier to stick to the diet. Just need to not pig out when I get home before we have dinner! Not that easy when the rest if your household is having after work/school snacks!!!

Whoops, think I've been such a moaner. Sorry, not intentional. Really grateful I have here to come to and know I'm not alone.

Xxx

Steph -- yes, I think Friday would have been perfect timing!!! Good luck!!!
Angie

loobylue - what dpo are you at? Sorry you didn't get that positive.

I am also out. This cycle was such a roller coaster. I hear you Loobylue - you are so spot on comparing it with the exam!

I feel so bummed right now and I don't think my dh really understands how stressful every cycle is.

This time I had faint lines on a few sticks and today a quite strange result on the Clearblue plus, first nothing but then suddenly after 20 minutes a pretty clear line that is still there, fully visible and blue. But it is obviously not a real positive since AF just seems to have arrived. Googled clearblue and I am not the only one with false +. Even if I didn't trust those faint lines fully I did get my hopes up, so today was a tough day.

I am also thinking about what to drop - maybe FR? I didn't take antihistamines this time and will skip it next month too. Also skipped and pretty much only did diet, one attempt, j&d (will skip I think), drinking wine (will not skip, are gonna have a glass right away!), OLE for DH, folic.

Not much more to skip than J&D and FR release right? Really wanna get pg now!


Steph - Sounds very likely that you did o!! Yay!! Finally in the 2ww! Fx for you! Hope you had a fantastic trip, that relaxation is just so great for your sway!

Oh, I so hear you on the failed exams! One reason I'm not testing early this month... not sure I can handle the failing again. If it's a bfn for me this month, I might take a few months off. It's so stressful trying to lower fertility without lowering *too* much...which is just the opposite of how we want to be feeling when TTC a girl, right? What a catch 22...

Hope everyone had a Happy Mother's Day! I enjoyed eating too many calories and am ready to start fresh tomorrow! Going to attempt to channel a chilled out, low calorie eating, cardio lovin' mama for the next few weeks until next attempt!

You guys are so spot on with the exam analogy, it really sucks!

Looby please do not worry about coming and saying your true feelings here. This is what it is for, I have also been prone to lots of moaning and then worrying about it but we need to get out our feelings otherwise we will go mad. Your feelings are totally valid but this is probably the only place we can spill everything and no-one will judge. With the one attempt, are you BD every 4 days or are you using an OPK and waiting for the positive? I had decided to BD whenever and then once at positive OPK as we cant do the every 4 days thing, it puts too much pressure on. Only problem is I am not great with OPKs either lol. Remember that bread is good for LE diet so you can indulge in that guilt free :)

Marika - so sorry to hear the issues you have had with the sticks and AF coming. Its awful that we spend all this time getting our hopes up. DHs do not understand what we go through month to month, even if they want the baby just as much. For some reason they can be more relaxed about it. I think you are right dropping FR and J&D because together they may be lowering sperm count too much. You are DEFINITELY right keeping the wine ;)

girliedreamz - its such a fine line between lowering and lowering too much and of course everyones body chemistry is different so we just dont know how much is too much either... maybe a month or two off is what you need, if you have time to spare (not vintage like me lol)

happy mothers day to those of you celebrating it, hope you got spoiled :)

yes I am back at work now (boo) we arrived at gatwick at 2.15am yesterday, had to wait 2 hours for our luggage so we finally got back home at 5.30am yesterday morning. Had about 2 hours sleep and then spent the day unpacking and chilling and trying not to eat too much. But I did start the day with cake leftover from the holiday and then ended the day with 2 massive pieces of birthday cake that DH brought home from a party! Was surprisingly easy to exercise this morning :)

I feel so so so SO lost. And really flat & miserable & dare I say depressed. I feel like nothing I do will be enough. And like the biggest failure. My body is screeching for protein (I normally eat paleo) and I have no energy to do any exercise. My fitness has taken the biggest dive since starting this & I'm just so hungry & miserable. And I don't know what I'm really meant to be eating as I'm waiting on my Personalised Plan. This week I will ovulate so I realistically have 4 more weeks before we start TTC... I'm scared & I just want some structure while trying to remain relaxed (as don't want to stress myself into the "boy zone") & trying to be patient as I know poor atomic has been moving which is an enormous & crappy job, especially with kids in tow. I just feel horrid.


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I feel much the same PrimalMamma, like nothing I do will be enough and I'm so over the diet. I also usually eat high protein and low carb and lots of healthy fats (missing my coconut oil and oats) and things like curries which are full of tomato, onion, garlic, coconut creams etc!

Your personalised plan itself doesn't have much more about the diet but the 21 day meal plan does (did you get that too?) but from what I've seen your eating looks ok. 😊

Remember there really is no banned foods and as long as your calories, fat and protein are low and you're not eating too nutritiously then you'll be fine.

Stir fry with low sodium sauces and rice, corn tortillas with veggies, rice and some beans are good, homemade pizzas on mountain breads or corn tortillas, bread (toasted sandwiches), mushroom soup, pastas with veggies cooked in butter or a little pesto & cream, fried rice type dishes are all some ideas and things DH and I have..

And I have a new found addiction to pop tarts!! 😉

It is hard to do all this knowing it's still no guarantee and trying to stay relaxed through it all too is impossible!! Have a nice warm lavender bath and a glass of wine and know you're not alone in your feelings at all!

xx

PrimalMamma - I am sorry to hear you are miserable :( from what I have seen on the what are we eating thread you look to be doing fine? How much protein are you allowing yourself? Although atomic recommends 40-50g protein, I found that too hard to stick to so I go up to 60g - remember that less is still less. If you were eating a high protein diet before you would have been in excess of 100g per day so if you go down to 60g it is still less. What protein do you miss? Is it specifically meat or other sources?

As mumofsix says there is a 21 day eating plan which will just tell you what to eat if you find that easier? Is the what we are eating thread helping at all as there are now a few posting so its great to steal ideas?

I promise it does get easier but then I have been doing this for a long time now...you will find yourself getting used to it but it takes time to fine tune, in the beginning I kept making mistakes and didnt know what to eat. The positives I have taken away is that actually I love veggies anyway and have found some new vegetarian meals and recipies which I really enjoy. I love eating and love food so I have just tried to maximise the salad/veggie eating so I will be filling up on 'free' food (especially free protein) so that I can use the allowances for other yummy things. Also soup is a great filling option if you like low fat veggie soups.

I constantly think that whatever I do wont be good enough - but to be honest there are no guarantees anyway, by doing this we may be getting ourselves to 60% or if very lucky 70% chance to conceive a DD so there is no point in worrying over the minute detail of whether you are over on something sometimes.

Also - make sure you have at least one day a week where you cheat and enjoy that protein!!! I try to stay in totals and vegetarian from monday to thursday then at the weekend I do my best but am usually over. I have been doing it too long to remain strict all the time. Atomic doesnt intend for people to be starving and miserable and you will get to a point where you can make it work for you.

Hi all, thanks so much for your amazing understanding. It's such a rollercoaster all of this.

I'm at work so haven't got time to post a decent reply but wanted to say thanks.

Totally get how you're all feeling too.

Re diet - you all sound like you're doing well. I keep reminding myself of Atomics light switch v radio dial analogy. Although I think my radio is turned right down!!! It helps though.

Sorry this is short, work beckons boo!

Steph - hope first day back to work is going ok.

I'll try and check back in later. Xxx

Thanks for all understanding my little "Pity Party for One" lol. Stephk I miss meat & eggs. The problem is I have no self control when it comes to meat I can't eat a "little" steak I can eat a cow. I can't eat a little bit if chicken, I can eat a chicken. Well maybe not quite but you catch my drift. My old self would have at least 2 eggs for breakfast & then bone broth with more meat & veggies for lunch, lots of fruit to snack on & then a meat & veggies dinner (like a roast or corned beef or pulled pork or something). No grains, no legumes, very low carb. So as you can see I have essentially turned my diet on its head. I ate that way after years of depression, acne, irritable bowel etc & so not only am I struggling with the food I'm also emotionally struggling, my skin is breaking out so I feel ugly & I'm farting for my country (sorry for the TMI). I just feel disgusting. All of this is driving me to drink more... Yes I know alcohol sways pink but it also sways depression, hungoverness & general apathy. So yeah that's what's going on for me. Right now I feel like packing it all in & eating a steak but I know I will always wonder "What if..." If I do that & have another boy.


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Primalmamma I think if you really want a steak have one. One day is not going to ruin your sway. In fact it'll help you stay on le diet longer. If you are really struggling on the diet you could try the pcos version of the diet. It seems to be a little less carb orientated which might help you. Might be worth a try. You could also leave out the white carbs and just eat mainly low fat veggies and steamed rice etc. Sorry you're feeling down. If I was you I would take a huge cup of hot choc in to bed early and relax for the evening. Will do the soul a world of good. x

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Steph best of luck in 2ww Fingers crossed it's your month girlie!!!
Marika so sorry you're out I can't understand how you're out after the lines on those tests. Hope you catch the egg next cycle. x

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Primalmamma - i promise you it will get easier. Also there is no reason why the LE diet has to be unhealthy, you can eat your fill of fruit and veg. You said that you used to snack on lots of fruit - theres no reason why you cant have as much fruit as you want. You can also have eggs, in fact atomic recommends 4 eggs a week on the PCOS/fertility version of the diet. 2 medium eggs have 12g protein so its not difficult to fit them in if you really want them. Instead of the bone broth have a low fat veggie soup with some salad and more veg (although a bone broth probably doesnt have very much protein anyway so probably OK? you might want to check with atomic on that one). How about a veggie stew or chickpea curry - i have a great recipie which I posted on the what are we eating thread but it was a while ago, i can post it again if it helps?

regarding the meat/steak - give it to yourself once a week. Even twice a week would be fine. You will then be able to stick to the diet the rest of the time and really look forward to it. I have had steak on more than one occasion since starting the diet. Atomic says that cheating is mandatory on the LE diet. I cheat every single weekend.

Thanks daisy - to be honest I dont even know if I am in 2ww, I can only assume so given how the opks went. I am still testing just in case. I think either I would have got a positive on saturday, or I have a short surge and the positive would have happened around the end of last week and I missed it. Or I was gearing up to surge and my body changed its mind and I havent ovulated at all. argh i hate this!!!

Steph you never know how things work out. I think you're in with a great chance. I never got a surge from cd10 to cd24 and it worked for me! So who knows I'm keeping everything crossed for you!! :)

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daisy, it is your positive story that gives me hope - even if I didnt get PG hopefully I have at least ovulated :)

I chilled out a lot today. I decided to eat breakfast, & had a fried egg on toast. Heaven. Then I are vegetarian for the rest of the day but I didn't actually count calories. It was nice, & helped me relax. I've also decided to stop drinking alcohol. I know alcohol helps the sway but it's also empty calories. If I stop drinking I can eat more! And also - if I'm not drinking while sitting in front of the TV late at night it means my fast starts earlier & I can therefore eat earlier the next day! Genius I tell you. Genius.


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stephk - I think there is a great chance you did ovulate! Fx for you!

Primalmamma - you getting relaxed is great! It takes some time to get into LE and swaying. I don't say it's easy even after months, but it gets less stressful imo. I also try not to eat late at night just to be able to break the fast earlier the next day, thats a good way for us who find it hard not to eat until noon.

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Marika so sorry you're out I can't understand how you're out after the lines on those tests. Hope you catch the egg next cycle. x

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Thanks Daisy, those lines (especially clearblue that was so clearly blue) confused me too. Made this cycle really a huge disappointment. I so wanna get pg now! Counting the days til next o! Also waiting for ob to call this afternoon, wanna to ask about the spottings I've had from 7 dpo these three cycles. Had a cyst in feb so I'll ask if there could be any correlation or so...

Well, no New Years baby for me...af arrived today. :(
So frustrating. This was my last month doing clomid, which I really wanted to be part of my sway. But maybe it was keeping me form getting that sticky bean in the first place? I dunno. I dropped so much from my sway this month I hardly felt like I was swaying (except the clomid).

Taking a day to wallow in chocolate and carbs, then try to figure out what to do differently next month...

I'm sorry you're out this mont girliedreamz :( Perhaps coming off the clomid will help for next month. Wallow away and good luck strategizing for next month.

Angie

sorry to hear girliedreamz - enjoy that chocolate hon

So sorry to hear girliedreamz. I've been rooting for you! How many cycles have you been TTC now?

I'm CD9 today and will start my OPKs this afternoon! Finally something to do!

And my best friend, who has 2 boys and has been swaying for girl since November, just got her BFP yesterday at 12dpo!!! I've been telling her to join our thread but she won't! She did let me post her sway in the sway results section though! Her user name is Heidigirl3 and we've been best friends since we were 14! I hope I get to join her soon!