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I have been looking into this and it seems to have lots if success stories,, what dies everyone think about this? A few if my friends have said don't do it incase it causes birth defects?? I know this is prob v unlikely but I just wanted to get others thoughts? and what foods etc should I be avoiding to sway for pink?
Thanks :) xx
I thought the baster method WAS proven to damage sperm if not done very very gently... I don;t think it would cause birth defects, just that those sperm wouldn't make it to the egg
Hi Gemgem,
I too have read about this and the success stories. We are probably going to give it ago in our next cycle in Feb. We did a practice run with a sample of DH's sperm a few days ago. You will kill some sperm in the process but lower sperm count sways pink also.
The sample DH gave was ph8, i put one drop of lime and tested again and straight away could see the drop in the ph after few drops the ph of the sample was about 4.5. I warmed the lime first by putting in container inbetween my boobs to get it to body temp.
I think we will try it but the only thing that puts me off is i have read that it reduces the chances of you actually getting pregnant. We were only going to start ttc in March but to try this method we may have ago in Feb.
Leanne x
I know that this reduces your chances of getting pg, but for me it is an itch I have to scratch.... I just have to try it. I have decided to give myself one or two cycles with it. I have never been able to find many stories about people getting pg with it (a lot of people seem to try it for a number of months then give it up as they havent gotten og), but most of the ones I have found who got pg seem to have girls, with a few exceptions resulting in boys. I have considered maybe only lowering the sample to 5.0 or even 5.5, just to give myself more of a chance at getting pg. I know that on IG it was claimed anything over 4.5 was "boy territory"... but I mean really, most men have a sample of 7 or 8, and without swaying (ie 99.9% of human history!) most women go up to the 6s or so around ovulation, so in the natural world surely the combined ph must be quite high. I figure lowering it to the 5s must do something to sway pink, but maybe make it a little easier to get pg. I would be interested to hear anything you find to read about spliming, as I have found it hard to find much about this at all.
Hi gemgem and welcome.
Here is my thread about douching and also TBM. These will answer all your q's.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/show...ching-TTC-Pink http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...r-swaying.html
It does reduce chances of pg BY A LOT. Personally, I am not a fan of splime because it is very stressful for people and may raise testosterone, unsanitary and unproven in terms of safety, lowers odds of pg dramatically, and we can accomplish the exact same thing using jellies.
In terms of foods to avoid, there ARE no magic foods http://genderdreaming.com/forum/scie...gic-foods.html The idea that one food or food group can overwhelmingly cause you to have a baby of a certain gender does not add up in the real world. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...roversial.html
You might want to read these as well, first one is an overview of all the sway diets http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...s-swaying.html and the second one is an attempt to sort of combine the diets all into one, which wasn't very successful because it made a diet that was so restrictive no one could follow it, but you might find it helpful anyway http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-...-ttc-pink.html
If you're looking for the In-Gender list of forbidden/allowed foods, that is available in the Dream Members section (sorry i can't post that publicly, because it does not belong to me)
My LE Diet plus food guides, meal plans, recipes, etc. are also in the Dream Members section - there is a button on the top of every forum (it's pink and hard to miss) that you can click to become a Dream Member.
I'm not sure whether to try it or not,, I just feel v confused about the whole swaying thing at the mo, I have had lots of caffeine this week coke and red bull cos I've been poorly and couldn't face anything else so is it best not to try this month?? thanks for your replies/help it's much appreciated xx
Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with caffeine for a girl sway - I drank absolutely loads of diet coke leading up to our attempt.
I do, however, think it helps to have a plan firm in your head and to relax when you start trying. If you're worrying, stressing, doing research etc. then you're potentially boosting your testosterone levels and swaying boy (which is why I agree with Atomic about not doing any of the 'at home science' stuff - but obviously that's your call too).
Well i think we are deffo going to give splime a shot for one cycle at least :) When doing the test run we didnt find it stressful at all. I think we are a very fertile couple as with our boys, we got pg 1st month with DS1 2nd month with DS2 and 1st month again with DS3. DH seems to think he has super sperm , so this will be the test. DH likes a challenge...lol!!!
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... but it's taking on challenges which gives your body reason to produce testosterone!
I understand if it's an itch you need to scratch though :D FWIW, I conceived DS1 first attempt, DS2 3rd attempt (I was still BFing and cycles were still sketchy), DS3 first time and this little girl first time too. It's quite possible that you would take longer to conceive a girl because fertility is artificially lowered by our swaying but lower fertility (than before) doesn't necessarily mean so low that it's difficult to conceive and getting pregnant first attempt isn't confined to boys!
The IG claim that anything over 4.5 being boy territory, is utterly ludicrous and I hope no one pays it any attention whatsoever.
NORMAL semen and EWCM pH is in the 7's and all the women walking around out there who have daughters and never given it a second of thought had pH in this range.
That doesn't even count all the many failed blue sways (MANY) where they had done everythign they could to raise their pH and still conceived girls.
If anything, excessive caffeine sways pink, not blue. you ahve to drink a fatal amount of caffeine before it does anything to your calcium absorption rates and we don't even know that we WANT calcium to be well absorbed for pink.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemgem
My mom, MIL, and stepmom all drink tons of caffeine and have all girls.
Don't pooh-pooh the effect of challenges on your testosterone! Looking at swaying as a challenge to overcome is a recipe for a failed sway because your T levels will go thru the roof.
So, Ph is less important than Testosterone going up??. DH (usual PH a 7.2) and I (4.5-5, SINCE starting the diet) did a practice run today (one day AF has ended). Immediately after sex, my PH had gone up to a 6, as DH's PH went up to 7.9. I was sooo depressed, knowing that it's me who is contributing to making the boys!:(. Imagine what it's going to be when I get closer to OV??!!, I was planning on skipping douche, TBM, and antihistamines...but now I know there's no way I will skip anything...too upset with my body:(.
Hi wishing4princess dh usual ph8 and me around ph4.5-5, we too have tested staright after sex with a condom and my ph was 6 (not around OV) so if dh realeased inside me and around then sure it would be much much higher, we are good at making boys!
I think i typed wrong about tbm a challenge i didnt mean we thought it was a challenge or see it as a challenge. So hopefully it wont raise testosterone.
I am happy and relaxed about our plan and test run went very well and didnt feel stressed at all. We will try splime tbm in Feb and if we dont get pg then we will try natural in March. We are doing other swaying methods also.
Anyone else going to try splime?
We don't know, but I think the testosterone evidence is 1000 times better done and from more reputable sources than the pH stuff is. Your natural pH at O is in the 6-7 and the natural pH of semen is 7-8, so it is VERY likely that people conceive girls every day with pH in the 7's because taht's what your pH just IS unless you do all this other stuff to lower it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishing4Princess
I conceived what was prob. twin boys with pH of 4.5 and testosterone thru the roof.
pH ALWAYS goes up after sex, that is normal, because the semen raises the pH. You do not even have EWCM one day after AF in most cases, so that pH of 6 is not coming from you.
You do NOT NEED to douche or do TBM to conceive a girl, the jellies do that for you and without risking
OMG! Atomic, you rock! so I used a full applicator of Rephresh, yesterday, and my PH has stayed around 4.0 until today!!..Hoping this is all that I will need through OV!
I have got some RepHresh and replens but not tried them yet.
Atomic are you saying that if we bring our ph down with RepHresh/Replens etc then the ph of his sperm wont matter??
If we were to do both bring down our ph and DH ph (splime) would this be too much?? Would it not give better chance of girl if we did conceive with this method?? We are taking supps also and i am dieting.
When I checked my DH's pH (a couple of weeks before our attempt - eek!) it was crazy high - somewhere around a 10! I had him stop drinking OJ and start drinking coke and he started taking cranberry and aspirin but he only managed a short time before we conceived so I'm sure his pH was still on the high side. I used Rephresh and Aci-jel and did a Jump and Dump (to get rid of any surplus high pH semen!) and still conceived a girl :D
Thanks Zancal! Everytime i test DH ph he is about 8. I just want to do everything i can to up my chances of a girl as this is our last baby. All the sway will be the same just now questioning if to do splime or natural now???
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Acid is acid, low pH is low pH and it is MUCH better for testosterone and odds of pg to shoot some jelly up there and leave it to do what it is chemically designed to do, than to obsess over what your pH is constantly for days on end, and goof around tinkering with eyedroppers and lime juice.Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyLea
Plus, using the splime/Diva cup method, you are keeping max. numbers of semen and sperm right by your cervix. Yes, the lime will kill most of them off but at the same time, doesn't it make more sense to use a jelly to keep pH down and do a jump and dump instead??
That's GREAT Wishing! Good luck!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishing4Princess
ok im sold !!!! found this thread by accident lol, im chucking the TBM in the bin (literally) and im going to use rephresh a full app every 3 days untill i see a +opk then il stop ? is that the right way to go AS ?
It depends when you're going to DTD - will you have one attempt or several and when are you planning to have it/them?
With one attempt - I would try and time it to use either 1 applicator or 1/2 applicator the night before or morning of your attempt (no sooner than 8-12 hours before your attempt) whatever day that may be. The more you use, and the closer to your attempt, the lower odds of pg are. You also have the option of using 1/2-1 app of RepHresh the night before your attempt (no sooner for this method) and then using Sylk as a BD lube.
With more than one attempt, I would still try to time it to use the RepHresh the night before/morning of first attempt, and then have a couple attempts (example, O-3, O-2) then on the morning of O-1 (8-12 hours before attempt), use 1/2 app of RepHresh, have attempts on O-1, O Day, and O+1. No need to reapply RepHresh for the final O+1 attempt because odds of pg are very low by that point - egg(s) will either be fertilized or dead most of the time.
Ok, so witch got me yesterday and i know i went overkill on the sway on our attempt in Jan with Splime/rephresh ad benadryl day before attempt.
So this month we are going to drop the splime also but keep everything else the same. which is sp/vitex/baby aspirin/ rephresh and folic acid for me. Licquorice root and baby aspirin for DH. Going to take benadryl on lead upto Ov also. We were going to make the one attempt on O+12 after abstain but i read timing is least important. And just undecided on when to DTD and how often.
Atomic what you wrote about the attempts like O-3 O-2 O-1 O and O+1 would the frequency of dtd above up sperm count therefore taking into boy territory? Would DH abstain before this?
I just found the thread for bd frequency for pink and blue and that answered my question. when reading so much about swaying it gets all muddled up in my head...lol! Was good to rephresh my memory on that one :)
Doing more than one attempt in your fertile window could sway a bit if you were doing nothing else to sway, but when you're swaying pink, you are doing somuch that kills sperm/reduces their lifespan that you almost HAVE to do more than one attempt or you will not get pg.
Doing abstain and then doing 5 attempts makes no sense because you get neither the benefits of the abstain or the benefits of FR. Either do abstain with one attempt, or frequent release with 7-10 releases BEFORE your first attempt (you can do one or many attempts with FR.) Since I do not believe in timing, if you were to abstain with one attempt, I would do the attempt at pos OPK - give you a slight cutoff but still good odds of pg and it will not raise your T levels trying to figure it out.