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    Embarrassed Surprise BFP and wondering what my diets sways towards

    Hello everyone!

    Well, I already have three gorgeous DS's. My last one was a failed sway and our last planned baby. He is just amazing btw!

    DH and I have a had a recent 'accident' and I have had a faint bfp as a result (gulp!). I haven't even told him yet as he Im not sure how he will react!

    I have been having increased gender desire for a girl since I found out DS2 was a boy. Hence why we went for a third (and final baby!). I swayed with this site, but it didn't work for us. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore my boys and am definitely a 'boy' Mum and could have 20x boys and certainly would never be disappointed, but nothing will change the desire for a girl.

    So, I would like to know, in your opinions, whether I might have swayed boy or girl (without realising!). Here are the facts:

    - DH & I have made a switch away from cows milk (trying out both almond and soya milk) in hot drinks and the odd bowl of cereal
    - I have been vegetarian since aged 5yrs (although it made no difference when conceiving my 3x DS) and DH eats a mostly meat free diet too.
    - I always skip breakfast but always start the day with a cup of tea and maybe a hot chocolate
    - I don't usually eat a lot for lunch but usually not very healthy food ie chocolate bar or mini roll or apple (mostly snacky type food)
    - Dinner for both DH and I mostly consists of homemade vegetable soup with bread and butter
    - Neither DH and I regularly exercise
    - We are always tired from work and running around after the little ones and I work 2x late evenings per week

    - On the night of BD we had been on a rare night out for Valentines. I did have extra ewcm in the days leading up to this but didn't notice it particularly present this day.
    - We went to a vegetarian meal and had a full 3x course meal. I got quite drunk on 3x glasses of rose wine (DH had a beer as was driving)
    - We got home and I had a glad of red wine
    - We went to bed and dtd - DH pulled out (as normal) but one thing lead to another and it slipped back in (embarrased face!)
    - In the middle of the night I woke up and was very sick (from too much wine!)


    I honestly don't feel that DH and I can possibly conceive a girl (all his family are boys and we have three!), but it would still be interesting to know your thoughts.

    I very much appreciate you reading and replying so thanks in advance!

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    Last edited by JenB17; February 26th, 2016 at 08:06 AM.
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    DS2 May 2011
    M/C Feb 2013 (7weeks)
    ttc DD in 2013, but would welcome another blue to complete the family too

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    Congrats and pink dust!

    How different was your recent diet from your diet when you conceived your first 2 boys? What did you do to sway for DS3? Did DH end up ejaculating inside you or did he come a 2nd time outside you again or what?

    It sounds like you don't eat nearly enough! Do you snack a lot?

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Hi Maiden!

    Thanks so much for replying

    My diet is pretty bad in that I would rather munch on naughty snacks like Jaffa cakes and Cadbury mini rolls and things like that that have a decent lunch or breakfast so I snack on those things rather than a proper meal - until my evening meal, which is usually a big bowl of veg soup. So I may not eat loads but Im sure I get the calories! On the weekends we will have something different more home cooked meal (usually with meat substitute) I guess I eat a bit less now than when I had DS 1 & 2. With DS1 it was very protein rich with lots of cheese, pasta, milk, and take-aways!!! With DS2 it would have definitely been cereal heavy (I used to love cereal for breakfast) and lots of big home cooked meals (all vegetarian or with meat substitute).

    I did the LE diet for 3months (with one attempt at +opk) when swaying for DS3 but I didn't realise that tea and hot choc in the morning was equivalent to a meal anyway! Plus, I tried to do the exercise but with my routine at the time I could only manage it 3x per week, so I think I probably ended up swaying blue instead!

    So on the night of BD, he pulled out to ejaculate then once he was finished we kind of carried on with the mood and it went back in (Im cringing writing this lol!), so it was only the semen that was existing on/in his penis after he ejactulated. He did not ejaculate twice. I know they say it only takes one sperm, but I can't believe that its happened!
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    The minimal sperm, one attempt and switch to almond/soy milk from cow's sound like your biggest pink sway factors. Given that you have 3 boys, 1 from a pink sway, I would guess you will have another boy but you do always have a chance. Several moms of 3 boys with the 3rd boy being a failed pink sway got pregnant accidentally and had a daughter. You could end up pleasantly surprised! I do think diet & exercise are the biggest sway factors though, so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

    I do think the exercise you did when swaying probably swayed blue for you and having tea & hot choc daily did as well. I think there were other factors too, most beyond your control, that 'innately' sway blue for you strongly. Your DH may be a factor as well.

    No reason to be embarrassed about the oops! Many pregnancies are unplanned including 5 of my 6 pregnancies. I was just curious as to the mechanics, as I know a pink swayer hoping to conceive despite her DH's pulling out. Unfortunately I don't think her DH will do what yours did.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Hahaha, yes please send your failed pull out dust to me!!! I'm assuming you're thinking of me Maiden! A few times, DH has pulled out, ejaculated, and went back in but still no pregnancy after a year and a half!

    FX for you JenB17!!! May I ask how old you are? I will be 35 in June and have 2 boys (plus 1 miscarriage 16 months ago). Atomic always says that a lot of oopsies are girls, so I think you have a good chance, especially since you weren't focused on swaying. The only thing that gives me pause is drinking tea daily. I got my 2 boys drinking white or green tea daily. What kind were you drinking? Were you drinking coffee daily as well? What about alcohol? Was that only on the day of the oops or do you drink alcohol regularly as well?
    Me: 35 years old. Was an infant nanny and birth and postpartum doula. Now a full time SAHM.
    DS1: Aug 2003 (my first home birthed water baby!)
    DS2: May 2009 (my second home birthed water baby!)
    Oct 2014
    July 2016: Laproscopic surgery to remove a ping pong ball sized endometrioma on left ovary and 3 pea size fibroids on outside of uterus. Hysteroscopy to remove one larger "penetrating fibroid" inside uterus.
    Oct 2016: Heartbroken after DH's vasectomy. Looks like my dreams of a daughter are gone.

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    Hi Jen! Sounds like you're in with a good chance of pink. Dairy, I'm sure, was one of my biggest blue factors. I ditched it when ds3 (my failed sway!) was born as he has CMPA, plus a few other things changed and have ended up with an oopsie girl due in June! Can't wait until you find out 😀 I didn't exercise either, btw.

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    So proud to announce that after many long years of GD our precious DAUGHTER joined us in June 2016!!


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    Often these oops babies are girls so I'd say you have a great chance at pink!!! One attempt (or really half an attempt) also sways girl ;-)

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    Yes I was thinking of you essnce! Has your DH ever gone back in during your fertile period? Does he wipe off before going back? It sounds like he doesn't do it very often/often enough.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    Quote Originally Posted by maidentomother View Post
    Yes I was thinking of you essnce! Has your DH ever gone back in during your fertile period? Does he wipe off before going back? It sounds like he doesn't do it very often/often enough.
    Yes he has. We pretty much only dtd during my fertile period! It must be a pheromone thing for him or something because I never tell him where I'm at in my cycle. But if you look at my charts there's always dtd in the week leading up till O then nothing after! He always wipes off on his boxers after. But I can think of at least 4 cycles that he's gone back in after ejaculating. All during my fertile period. The last time being this past cycle. AF was right on time though. If I was 10 years younger I'm sure I would have gotten a BFP by now. Both my boys were oopsies.
    Me: 35 years old. Was an infant nanny and birth and postpartum doula. Now a full time SAHM.
    DS1: Aug 2003 (my first home birthed water baby!)
    DS2: May 2009 (my second home birthed water baby!)
    Oct 2014
    July 2016: Laproscopic surgery to remove a ping pong ball sized endometrioma on left ovary and 3 pea size fibroids on outside of uterus. Hysteroscopy to remove one larger "penetrating fibroid" inside uterus.
    Oct 2016: Heartbroken after DH's vasectomy. Looks like my dreams of a daughter are gone.

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    Wowwee, you got pregnant from the "remnants" of a pull out?! That IS a surprise!

    Honestly, everything sounds pretty pink to me -- and for the record, I had an (unintentional) LE diet for ages, including the day I conceived... I looked back in my MyFitnessPal diary, and the day before was a concert where I went HE... especially on alcohol, haha!

    Looks like the alcohol may work in your favor here in particular!

    I'm not sure I agree with maidentomother's assessment that because you've had boys, you're more likely to have a boy here. Seems a little defeating!

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