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    No vitex for blue twins - it sways pink.

    Full fat dairy, higher dose folic acid or folate (2000 mcg)

    Cassava may help, as may eating a lot of sweet potatoes

    Can you get Clomid or Femara?
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    OH crud, I'm so sorry to hear that.

    But let's try to look at it as this is just what was necessary for you to get pregnant in the future. [emoji813]
    Hi atomic, I'm back! I had my CD3 testing today and my E2 levels were down to 21! Yay! So we have a green light to try again this cycle. Since I hyperstimulated 2 months ago on clomid (11 follicles!!) I'm going to go ahead and try femara while taking an overabundance of folic acid in hopes that I still produce more than 1 or 2 follicles. [emoji1696][emoji1696][emoji120][emoji120]

    When I was on clomid, I was super super dry like ZERO CM. I've heard of taking Evening Primose Oil 3000mg daily until ovulation can help to increase fertile CM. Would this ruin my sway for pink? I know the odds are against me with IUI but I wanted to try whatever I could still. We will do femara days 3-7 2.5mg .... follicle check on CD12.. we will trigger and IUI.. as well as timed intercourse EOD... then progesterone suppositories until BFP or AF.

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  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    No vitex for blue twins - it sways pink.

    Full fat dairy, higher dose folic acid or folate (2000 mcg)

    Cassava may help, as may eating a lot of sweet potatoes

    Can you get Clomid or Femara?
    I can take one of them if I asked my doctor, if its sway blue [emoji170][emoji170]


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    Quote Originally Posted by Afnan View Post
    I can take one of them if I asked my doctor, if its sway blue [emoji170][emoji170]


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    Clomid and Femara may sway a little pink, but if you take them when doing lots of stuff to sway blue, it will help you get twins and then the blue friendly things you're doing will help you get the boys!
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    I woudl not have you take the evening primrose because it can interfere with the way the Clomid and Femara work. It also can thin out the blood hugely at that level and is not acceptably safe to me. If you MUST take it please no more than 500 a day in the luteal phase only, drop at O. It was once thought to sway blue but we saw so many opposites with it we ended up dropping it from blue sways.

    THat hving been said I'd MUCH rather you take guaifenesin to help with CM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    I woudl not have you take the evening primrose because it can interfere with the way the Clomid and Femara work. It also can thin out the blood hugely at that level and is not acceptably safe to me. If you MUST take it please no more than 500 a day in the luteal phase only, drop at O. It was once thought to sway blue but we saw so many opposites with it we ended up dropping it from blue sways.

    THat hving been said I'd MUCH rather you take guaifenesin to help with CM.

    Good luck for this upcoming month Star and please keep me posted!!
    Thank you, Atomic! So where do I find that? And what dose would you recommend? Also, preantral follicles--- I have about 9 total between my 2 ovaries. Are those likely to mature with femara or will it be like normal ovulation when you have many follicles and just 1 or 2 become dominate and continue to grow? I'm trying to learn all of this to see if any of it makes sense to me Haha. Unfortunately when I overstimulated, I didnt have an ultrasound to measure preantral follicles that cycle so I cant even see how many I started with to end up with 11. I'm taking 3200mg of folic acid-- is that too much? I dont want to over stimulate again but I still want chances for twins. Eeekkk!

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    Guaifenesin can be found at any drugstore, even like Walmart. You want the kind that has just guaifenesin in it and not any other active ingredients (especially avoid dextromethorphan as it can't be taken when TTC)

    It's all but 100% that most of those follies will slow in growth leaving only the best one or two to be ovulated.

    Folic acid, we believe based on the best data we have, doesn't cause twinning to happen. It only makes it more likely that both babies will survive the first trimester. So I do not believe that level of folic can cause overstimming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    Guaifenesin can be found at any drugstore, even like Walmart. You want the kind that has just guaifenesin in it and not any other active ingredients (especially avoid dextromethorphan as it can't be taken when TTC)

    It's all but 100% that most of those follies will slow in growth leaving only the best one or two to be ovulated.

    Folic acid, we believe based on the best data we have, doesn't cause twinning to happen. It only makes it more likely that both babies will survive the first trimester. So I do not believe that level of folic can cause overstimming.
    Perfect! I will go to Walmart to night to see what I can find with just that in it. Should I start taking it daily or just closer to ovulation?

    Also what are your thoughts on Red Raspberry Leaf Tea? And Pom juice?

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    YOu only need to take it starting about 5 days before O and going through 3 days after. I would wait to start it till a coupe days after your last dose of Femara.

    I have concerns about mixing RRLT with Femara. I worry they could interact and thus I prefer you guys skip it. The Pom is ok but I really doubt it's in any way necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic sagebrush View Post
    YOu only need to take it starting about 5 days before O and going through 3 days after. I would wait to start it till a coupe days after your last dose of Femara.

    I have concerns about mixing RRLT with Femara. I worry they could interact and thus I prefer you guys skip it. The Pom is ok but I really doubt it's in any way necessary.
    It's currently CD10 and I got a positive opk this morning... went in for bloodwork and a u/s to get things rolling...

    so.... IUI TOMORROW!!

    Estradiol: 181
    LH: 9.2
    Progesterone: 0.7

    3 follicles: 22mm, 13mm, 11mm

    10pm tonight- ovidrel shot
    8am tomorrow- semen sample
    10am- IUI

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