TTC pink chat thread for November

[maybeoneday]

Hi ladies, sorry I have been awol for a while, been super busy at home... We started building our extension this week and the builders and supposed to be here for 4 months. On the plus side they are building me another bedroom for my DD if all goes to plan!!!

I also get loads of EWCM before I O and it has usually tailed off by the time I get my +OPK. It is one of the reasons I decided to put in another attempt this month (DTD while I still had some..) Anyway, decided to DTD yesterday, expecting to get a +OPK tomorrow but it came early and was + today so will probably by O tomorrow...

Think we are going to DTD again tonight, then maybe tomorrow as well.

Mocha and OOTB, I wish you both all the luck in the world for a BFP, you both deserve it and I hope you can both enjoy your pregnancies

Jamie and Amari, good luck to you both and FX for BFPs for us all.

xx

[amari]

Hey, ladies. I actually wish I had more ewcm, then you have more to manipulate. I never really have any so I have no signs of O. Then again, I don't O or get my period which is why i am on provera now and about to take clomid! But i am jealous that you all can do the rephresh and all that stuff.

So, this is my first month if i ever do ovulate, those who have done this, when did you decide to dtd? how many times? did you do abstain or frequent release? did you use the first batch before your attempt or dump it? thanks for your experience! Good luck to all of you this month!!

[Mochagirl]

Sorry, amari - that must be really frustrating .

As for when to dtd - you'll find a full range of options followed by the ladies here. Lots of women still believe in timing and do a 2 day cut-off, but I personally think that lowers your odds of pregnancy too much and I don't believe in timing anyway. When I was swaying last summer I had dh release every day starting on CD1, then we started to dtd for real every day once I started showing O signs and continued to dtd through O. One month we dtd 9 days in a row (and that was after dh had been releasing daily for 7 days)! With my angel baby frequent release wasn't really an option because we were staying with family. Instead we did sort of a compressed frequent release - when I had signs that O was coming I had dh release twice in one day, then once more the next day before we dtd for real. We then continued to dtd every day until O happened.

This time I'm taking it even more easy. Since I have no idea when or if O is going to happen, I don't want to wear us both out with frequent release. Instead I just had dh release once a few hours before my attempt and relied on rephresh and jump and dump to take care of the rest. We're going to have another attempt tonight so we're doing the same thing again. We'll probably continue to do this until I get my +OPK then have one more attempt and stop.

[amari]

Sorry, amari - that must be really frustrating .

As for when to dtd - you'll find a full range of options followed by the ladies here. Lots of women still believe in timing and do a 2 day cut-off, but I personally think that lowers your odds of pregnancy too much and I don't believe in timing anyway. When I was swaying last summer I had dh release every day starting on CD1, then we started to dtd for real every day once I started showing O signs and continued to dtd through O. One month we dtd 9 days in a row (and that was after dh had been releasing daily for 7 days)! With my angel baby frequent release wasn't really an option because we were staying with family. Instead we did sort of a compressed frequent release - when I had signs that O was coming I had dh release twice in one day, then once more the next day before we dtd for real. We then continued to dtd every day until O happened.

This time I'm taking it even more easy. Since I have no idea when or if O is going to happen, I don't want to wear us both out with frequent release. Instead I just had dh release once a few hours before my attempt and relied on rephresh and jump and dump to take care of the rest. We're going to have another attempt tonight so we're doing the same thing again. We'll probably continue to do this until I get my +OPK then have one more attempt and stop.

There are so many options, I wish there was just one way to do it! I was going to do the frequent release and not worry about timing either and just go straight though but i think that's pretty much how ds1 was conceived. of course i wasn't doing the diet or anything then. we just did it 18 days in a row! so now when you say you are doing another attempt will you have him release first and dump it before you use it? how many days in a row have you done it this time? have you had a +opk yet? i think i remember you saying they were getting darker? good luck, girlie!

[Mochagirl]

Since we're not dtd every day, I'm having him release before each attempt. My OPK this afternoon was getting darker, but I did another one tonight and it was quite faint. I'm hoping it was just because my pee was a lot more diluted - I drink so much tea and CL in the afternoon that it's almost impossible to get an accurate OPK. The EWCM is gone now, but I still have watery cm and an open cervix so I'm hoping O is coming....

[Mochagirl]

So now I'm more confused than ever. No spotting today, which is good - but as of bedtime last night my cm had turned to watery but was very scant and when I did an OPK it was very faint (though my pee might have been too diluted). DH and I dtd anyway.

Today my temps are up a bit - just into my normal post-O temp threshold - and I checked with FF by plugging in imaginary temps for the next 2 days - if my temp stays this high, I'll get my crosshairs for yesterday (and I think maybe that attempt with DH will have been a post-O attempt, so not great). My cervix is still quite open, though maybe only medium high and soft, and I never got anything even approaching a +OPK. My cm seems ew today, but I think it's just semen confusing me. I guess I'll just wait until mid-day and see what my OPK tells me.

[amari]

I don't know much about the temping part, but I do think it is realllly hard to tell anything cm wise once there is semen in there. Also, I think drinking all the aspartame changes things a lot too. You got a couple good tries in there either way though, right?

[Mochagirl]

Well, IF I O'd yesterday I think it was mid-day sometime, which would mean I had an O-2 and something approaching an O+12 attempt - while that may sound good for girl swaying, it's not ideal for me since I'm less concerned with timing and more concerned with getting pregnant again as quickly as possible. I'm also worried because I used half a tube of rephresh yesterday morning thinking O was still a couple of days away - I'm worried I killed all the sperm from our first attempt and maybe also the sperm from last night's attempt.

I do agree that the cm isn't the best indicator while swaying. Yesterday I used some rephresh, drank tons of aspartame and took an antihistamine - so all of that could have made my cm change. And yes, the semen does confuse anything, though my cervix definitely still feels SHOW (I just checked again).

Here's a question - if my body made an attempt to O but didn't succeed, would my temperature still have gone up? I suppose it's possible I missed the surge with my OPKs, but I was taking them pretty frequently.

[amari]

As my 1st attempt (hopefully) approaches I would really love some input. Sorry its so long...Here is what I am doing:

Started off on a girl diet about a month or so ago with cal/mag, cranberry, folic acid.

Switched to LE diet about 3 weeks ago. Just on baby aspirin, folic acid, and fiber now. DH on licorice root.

I will take my last pill tonight to get my period going, and once that starts (fingers crossed) I will start clomid on cycle days 5-9).

I don't test my ph but drink lots of cl, pep tea and rrl tea with equal. i will have to ease up on the aspartame around O because atomic says that i will be too dry due too the clomid. this means i also can't use the rephresh or aci-jelly or benadryl. (i actually am weaning off benadryl which i have been using as a sleep aid for months, down to a tiny sliver).

I am eating breakfast now but will stop around O time.

So, my plan and questions, i am confused as to whether to do frequent release or abstain? if we do fr we will start at af and go through to +opk, at +opk he will release one more time and then we will do an attempt and then the same thing the next day, one more release outside and the one more attempt? Do I have this right? if we abstain the we have an attempt at +opk.

My questions keeping in mind i will be on clomid:
1. Frequent release or abstain? I am concerned b/c ds1 was conceived after 18 days of sex but no other sway factors of course.
2. if fr, dump first batch before first attempt and dump batch before second attempt?
3. Jump and dump? after each attempt?
4. if abstain, do you dump batch before second attempt or do you only do one attempt?
5. Should we do 2 or 3 attempts? if we do fr?
Am i missing anything? Thanks, i know this is long, i am relatively new to all this and the clomid si throwing me off!

[Out of the Blue]

By the way, sorry for all the other pink swayers that I've been dominating this thread with m/c talk.

I’m sorry too! Hope we didn’t scare anyone away!!!

...talking to others to try and offer comfort or suggestions of things that can help them cope made me feel like some small good had come from my loss...

Yes…you are so right! Helping others really heals me. It helped for a bit but it got to be too heavy on my soul as my mind was still w/my loss instead of moving on so I’ve left but I’ll definitely go back and help others once I’m able to handle it mentally (maybe when I’m in my 3rd trimester w/a healthy bub on the way…???) Sigh…