the calcium conundrum - CONTROVERSIAL

[mrs magoo]

no that's what the abstract says, but reading their results table and all the discussion it says it sways pink so think it must just be a typo in the abstract

That's a pretty big error in writing the report...,

[meeks32]

HI atomic, just wanted to share an interesting article I found (maybe it´s already by here, but if not , here it is!):

Calcium

Calcium is a supplement most often noted for its ability to promote strong bones and teeth. However, this nutrient can have a number of other benefits, including promoting hormone production. According to a study from the December 2008 edition of "Biological Trace Element Research," four weeks of calcium supplementation can support increased testosterone levels.

Magnesium

Magnesium is an essential nutrient that aids in producing energy, activates enzymes and helps regulate the amount of certain other nutrients in your body. In addition, research published in the April 2011 edition of "Biological Trace Element Research" indicates that supplementation with magnesium can promote increased testosterone levels.



I found it here: Vitamin Supplements To Increase Testosterone | LIVESTRONG.COM

Just re read the entire thread and thought I would remind everyone of this. If nothing atomic said counters the calc mag argument for you, then this should!

[rainbowflower]

Just re read the entire thread and thought I would remind everyone of this. If nothing atomic said counters the calc mag argument for you, then this should!

that is reassuring to read, but I still can't get past all the statistics in many studies I've seen. Perhaps something else sways more than testosterone levels?

[Rainbow baby]

I can't remember if I replyed already or I just didn't post it but with my medical issues I know sodium in foods is processed and used differently than if you were to eat strait table salt on foods. The body uses it differently maybe thats why salt sways. In saying that I have a problem getting enough and have been told to add a teaspoon a day of table salt to foods now. I had all my boys before that so it wasn't the salt or sodium that gave my all 4 of mine, maybe it contributed to me not having a girl???

[meeks32]

I flirted with the idea calcium and mag sway girl, and come back to it frequently, but ultimately keep coming back to the fact it makes sense that low everything tricks our body into thinking we are in famine, and that attracting a girl sperm makes evolutionary sense in times of famine because girl babies require less calories to survive, thus are a safer choice for the body to make, because ultimately we are designed to survive, and for our offspring to survive. Throwing boy in times of high nutrients makes sense to me as well, because they require more calories to survive.

I see the links in those studies and don't discredit them but worry taking the calc mag will trick my body into thinking times are good, despite LE diet. Drinking more milk and so on would only add to that issue so I don't believe it's any good for TTC girl.

For the record although I drank a lot of soy milk with ds1 and ds2, it's LOADED with vitamins and calcium enriched, and I ate a lot of cheese and tons of yoghurt too. So if calc alone swayed, I would have had girls. I did lots of boy things though, multivitamins, extra vit c, orange juice, healthy frequent snacks, ate meat, lots of high nutrient veggies, fave foods were super high in protein or 'good' fats like avocado and other fave veggies and fruits would only have made things worse as I loved oranges, banana, mango, etc etc. so despite the calcium, I was so boy diet it's not even funny.

I have compromised and put dh on calc mag, and cran. Where I only take folic acid and acidophilus. I take iron too because annoyingly I'm deficient but that sways boy so I don't recommend that to anyone.

[atomic sagebrush]

I've talked about this a lot and I'm not sure anything is accomplished by my doing so further. not my job to convince anyone to take or not take it. cal got me boys and got me ds 4 where I was taking tons. no cal got me dd. everyone should use their own judgment and do what their gut says.

[harleyquinn]

Rainbowflower....I thnk the calcium bit is extremely iffy. Have you read the studies on Omega 6s for sheep? Again iffy. I'm not a rat...I don't spin on a wheel all day. I don't baaaaa in a feild either with some dog nipping my knees. LOL. I guess what I mean is...we do SO MUCH to influence our hormones (don't see rats laying around drinking wine and eating fiddle faddle by the box) so we gotta look at the logic here. The only thing I have stumbled across is women who are estrogen dominant are magnesium deficient (would she please shut up about estrogen?!) but I haven't put that together in my head, nor do I really care to pursue that.
Its like anything in this swaying business....you go lookin' for a study to back up what you believe...you'll probably find it. We gotta figure out which ones make sense.

[harleyquinn]

I read this on my FB yesterday and had to have a chuckle...NUMBER ONE...you can link calcium comsumption with just about ANYTHING lol...and NUMBER TWO, look how much milk these Swedes are drinking and they have one of the highest sex ratios in the world.
Drink Your Milk: It Could Help You Win a Nobel Prize | TIME.com

[meeks32]

I read this on my FB yesterday and had to have a chuckle...NUMBER ONE...you can link calcium comsumption with just about ANYTHING lol...and NUMBER TWO, look how much milk these Swedes are drinking and they have one of the highest sex ratios in the world.
Drink Your Milk: It Could Help You Win a Nobel Prize | TIME.com

Haha gold! Nice one.

[atomic sagebrush]

Check out this new mice study, shows low calcium = more girls and from a much more reputable source PLOS ONE: Calcium Availability Influences Litter Size and Sex Ratio in White-Footed Mice (Peromyscus leucopus) (thx hopeful monster)