Oh dear... did I do this wrong?

[Plum3]

I am positive a 4 day cut off means having protected sex (or DH releasing himself) 4 days before attempt. I don't see how abstaining for 4 days increases female sperm count? All the studies suggest otherwise don't they???

[Kris217]

We do don't we.. wheres atomic when we need her

Exactly what i was thinking!!! lol

[TTC5]

I am positive a 4 day cut off means having protected sex (or DH releasing himself) 4 days before attempt. I don't see how abstaining for 4 days increases female sperm count? All the studies suggest otherwise don't they???

Yes that's what I thought hence why I did that .. oh well it is done now lol.

[Kris217]

I think people get confused by cut off and abstaining?

[TTC5]

Sounds like it!

[jane]

I think people get confused by cut off and abstaining?

its the same thing....isnt it?......atomic.....atomic.....help needed!!! hah!

[rainbowflower]

I am positive a 4 day cut off means having protected sex (or DH releasing himself) 4 days before attempt. I don't see how abstaining for 4 days increases female sperm count? All the studies suggest otherwise don't they???

4-day cut off means DTD 4 days before OV but no closer to OV than that

abstaining means prior to the attempt DH not releasing, because swimmers need to be released in order to become newer healthy ones and so sperm count will lower as a result.


but you're right, studies talking about CUT OFFS have disproved those, as far as I know there haven't been any studies on abstaining (that I've seen anyway)

[ELP]

4 day cut off = last dtd 4 days before Ov
4 day abst = DH no release for 4 days before dtd

But I'm pretty sure the 4 day abst is best for blue as higher sperm count sways blue, and timing doesn't make much difference.

[Kris217]

4 day cut off = last dtd 4 days before Ov
4 day abst = DH no release for 4 days before dtd

But I'm pretty sure the 4 day abst is best for blue as higher sperm count sways blue, and timing doesn't make much difference.

Yes that sounds right, glad we got that figured out!

[Zivic-Bubac]

its the same thing....isnt it?......atomic.....atomic.....help needed!!! hah!

I had the same dilemma back on IG, but RingosDrum kindly explained to me it's not the same thing

ELP and Bec are right, ELP gave excellent definition what is cut-off and what is abstinance.

TTC5, IMO the only concern here might be were there any X-survivors up there when O occurred so the fresh sperm didn't have chance to get there first. That's the worse scenario, God forbid, and I think it's not likely.

That's why you should have 4 days abstainance ( not cut-off), for example, you can have baby dance sex like 7-8 days prior to O ( so no survivors up in the cervix), then have him release 4 days before O, then no sex no release and on O day unprotected sex.
This is how I understand it, but I'm going with every other day BD around O anyway.

We all know timing is the least important, so FX you are already cookin' sticky blue bean