Problem with frequent bedding

[atomic sagebrush]

Even if he releases every day through af?? That would be a total of about 7 days doing self-release, then 5 days of dtd. I don't know if we'd be able to manage dtd twice a day - he's already not keen on this swaying thing and if I make it seem like too much work he might just flat out refuse.

I think I missed the part where he was releasing every day through AF. Sorry! That would be 12 days of release and that would be fine (totally understand about the "too much work" aspect!!)

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok, so you think Vitex is definitely the way to go. I wasn't planning on taking it because I thought it was for people to regulate their cycles or something like that. DS has just weaned himself so I was thinking of starting to take Saw Palmetto now. Should I take both? Or, if I were to choose between them, is Vitex the better choice? I'm on CD2 and due to O on CD12.

The evidence points in the direction that vitex works for people, or at the very least that it doesn't PREVENT you from getting pg with a girl. I conceived a boy on vitex and I know several others who did as well so it's no magic bullet, though.

You can take both SP and vitex. I like vitex because it is safe while nursing and because I know a lot more people who have taken it and had no ill effects from it. Not a lot of people were doing SP when I was on IG so I feel like it's more of an unknown, but at the same time, we do know for a fact that it lowers T levels.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi mocha, I'm obviously not atomic but I asked a while ago about whether to take saw palmetto or vitex and she said she would take vitex. You take it from af to o so if you were going to start today!!!!

If I had to make a decision between the two I would choose vitex but you CAN take both.

[zanacal]

OMG that is hilarious. I thought I was the only one who dreamed about stuff like that!!! I feel a lot better now.

I think your plan makes TONS of sense to me. I do think first month after Mirena could sway pink, just like the first month off the pill (plus, remember the Mirena commercial??? The mom had 3 boys and then a baby girl after she got her Mirena out...that has to count for something, right??? )

Drugs aren't advertised on tv here but I like that one!! I think I'm going to BD 7 days solid after AF using a spermicidal condom then DTD once on day 13 of my cycle. It'll be a cut off of some sort - 1 day if I ovulate on day 14 as I have historically or a bit longer if Vitex delays things. I don't think I'll even bother with OPKs - I'll pretend it was an oops and if it was meant to be then it will. If/when I don't get pregnant I'll drop some of the things which prevent pregnancy and have lots more sex the next month! Heck I might even use the Acijel I spent a fortune on and just bung in some Rephresh the day after and leave it at that.

On a side note, I took my pH this morning as I think I'm around ovulation (despite negative OPKs) and I think it was about 5.5, so hard to tell with the sticks. I used some Rephresh then I took my pH a while later, then I experimented with mixing Rephresh and Acijel together in a bowl, then I added the Rephresh/Acijel combo then took pH again an hour later. Like I said, I struggle to read those sticks, but they were always a shade of orange and never a shade of green so I think that's good enough for me!

[atomic sagebrush]

That's my philosophy as well...I think it's a waste of time/energy to worry about the diff between 5 and 5.3 like some people do! Orange is good, green is bad LOL.

Good luck!

[Mochagirl]

I've never been able to take my PH - I think I have low ionic strength (is that what it's called?) since the strips never seem to change colour at all when I test. I was going to invest in a Hanna this time around but never got around to it. I figured that if I do all the other parts of the sway + take Baby Aspirin, drink CL and use Rephresh, my PH will be ok. Is that a dangerous assumption?

[zanacal]

That's my theory too Mochagirl!

[atomic sagebrush]

I've never been able to take my PH - I think I have low ionic strength (is that what it's called?) since the strips never seem to change colour at all when I test. I was going to invest in a Hanna this time around but never got around to it. I figured that if I do all the other parts of the sway + take Baby Aspirin, drink CL and use Rephresh, my PH will be ok. Is that a dangerous assumption?

No, and if I could only bottle that attitude I think we would have more successful sways.

Obsessively worrying about pH only feeds the T beast!! If your body thinks you need massive quantities of T it will do whatever it can to keep producing it, even if you aren't giving it as much raw materials.

[swish]

I'm doing the same thing, mocha. I feel like I'm doing all I can to lower ph then I'll keep my fingers crossed! I figure the reality is, even if I test and my ph is high, what would I do? I wouldn't use more rephresh or lime or whatever so what's the point in knowing!!!