Hysteropingogram (HSG) and swaying

[Trishy74]

In regard to the calcium, he was not allowed this prior to his transplant. Actually he was on a really strict diet when he was on hemodialysis but since the transplant he is allowed to eat anything and as for calcium they had him on oscal plus d until two years ago and then had him on fosamax plus d because he has osteopenia (side effect of prednisone and also has cataract from it). So I know the calcium is safe for him. She stopped the fosamax bc he was on it for so long and that can only be taken for certain amount of time but they had him on oscal plus d for like 6 or 7 years after transplant bc of how the pred eats away at the bones.

I spoke to my gyno tonight and he said let's see what the sperm count comes back as. I asked him what the next step would be for a low sperm count and he said iui or ivf. I hope it doesn't come to that bc DH works so far from home so to do iui wouldn't work out too well. However dr did say if his numbers are ok than he will send me for hsg. But we just have to wait it out now. I know this past month I did use astroglide when trying to conceive bc my dr said to make sure I was lubed well bc of constant uti a and he referred me to astroglide bc he said ky is garbage. So I'm wondering if that is a problem for us too now. Have to say astroglide works like 100x better than ky! I just feel like I can't drop the astroglide bc I have a valid reason to use it bc I suffered with a uti for 3 mos. hoping its gone now after taking levaquin. If DH sperm count comes back low I will consult with his nephrologist about supplements for him to help sperm count. Id much rather try that than do iui bc of work and not having a sitter for my son.

I will keep you updated once we get results back. Hoping we will have them before christmas since I'm dropping sample off Friday morning. He has to abstain for 3 days so I'm very curious to see what the results come back with. Btw you are correct with kidney disease and calcium and also phosphorous is very bad. But DH is not considered a kidney disease patient anymore per se bc of transplant received. Thanks for all your help.

I actually think you should discuss with his doctor before having him take calcium, I am no expert on kidney stuff but my niece's mom has kidney disease and can't have much stuff with calcium in it.

I would also ask about a male fertility supp compatible with his health - there are several on the market and one or the other should be ok for him but would not want to advise you incorrectly on that - some contain megadoses of vitamin/minerals that could be harmful for him and others have weird herbs and stuff he's just better off without.

[Trishy74]

I'm just updating on my husbands semen analysis since I got back the results today. According to my gyno my husbands count with 3 days of abstinence was 35.7 million. He said a low count would be 15 million or below so no iui. He did say he has had other patients have counts as high as 100 or 150 million but my husbands count is not considered low. He said to give it another 3 mos of trying to conceive and if nothing then he will send me for an hsg.

Atomic do you know anything about speem count? I know my dr said its not considered low but after my dr mentioned he has seen much higher I am still concerned. Would you still recommend a 2 to 4 day abstinence before dtd? I've decided in only dtd around ovulation bc of all the uti issues I've had for the past few months. I do have him taking vitamin d and folic acid too. Should I have him stop it being supposedly he has a normal sperm count? I'm so confused now!

If I get my period next month I have rx for fsh levels to be checked on day 3. I can't think of anything else to get checked bc I've already had prolactin, progesterone checked and ultrasoubd confirmation that I ovukated in October. Maybe the astroglide last month inhibited pregnancy? But my gyno recommended I use it bc of uti and painful intercouse.

I should not I just got a positive opk and I'm worried bc DH last took care of himself on Saturday night which will be 2 days of abstinence if we dtd later tonight. I'm worried bc that soerm count was for 3 full days of abstinence. Should I not use astroglide then tonight or should I wait until tomorrow night to dtd so it would be 3 days of abstinence like his sperm analysis time frame? I'm worried to wait another day to dtd but in the same breathe I'm worried that his sperm count will be a lot less than his results bc it would be one full day if less abstinence. Oy vey! Any help is appreciated in this. Btw was using astroglide due to discomfort not bc of pink sway.

[atomic sagebrush]

sorry i was away yesterday and did not see this til now

35 million is ok. it's enough, but it's NOT enough to start doing a full on sway. There is a lot more in a sperm analysis than just count, what else did they tell you?? I suspect that among the reasons he did have as good a count as he does is because of the Vit. D and folic, PLEASE have him continue those.

DTD at pos OPK has best odds of conception and I would never advise you to wait another day to have 3 days instead of 2 days between rounds. That kind of thing is minor and meaningless. DTD 7 days in a row matters, abstaining for 10 days matters, but things like 2 vs. 3 days is irrelevant. if you didn't attempt, do so NOW and as early in the day as is possible.

The unfortunate truth of being 39 and TTC (and remember I'm right there with ya ) is that odds of conception are lower. It takes fully fertile people in their prime of fertility up to 6 months to get pregnant. I understand the temptation to analyze and look for reasons but the real issue is that ya just gotta wait for the golden egg to show up and a fair number of the eggs that we have at 39 are poopy ones unfortunately. So please don't worry too much about "what went wrong last month", just regroup and try try again.

that having been said, IMO not a good idea for your dr. to recommend astroglide and I would not have anyone TTC using that if they were worried about not getting pg. I would have you guys use a little preseed, just enough for the discomfort and if it's a small amount it's not really going to sway blue, it will just be there helping the discomfort without killing off the sperm.

[Trishy74]

Thank you so much for responding! Really really appreciate it. I didn't think the sperm count was that great either. We did an attempt last night about 8 hours after pos opk bc my son didn't fall asleep until late. We used literally 2 small drops of astroglide. Literally to the point my DH said he couldn't even feel it. Lol. It did help me with discomfort. If you were me would you attempt tonight too if I still get pos opk? I know maybe I'm over analyzing here but just wondering when I've gotten pos opk these past few months its usually in afternoon and if I'm at work I know when it's happening bc i see ewcm. So if we wait until like 11 pm when I get pos opk at say 3pm is that waiting too much time in between do you think?

No my dr didn't tell me anything else. I'm waiting to get full test results sent in mail bc I requested them. I even requested the ones from 3 years ago before we conceived my son. My husband was curious to see the changed over the three years. I def want to see about motility etc. I forgot to ask my dr those results. I had a feeling that sperm count wasn't the best. I can only hope it would help us with our dg. I'm sure i will get to the point that I hope for a girl or boy if it takes forever. You still recommend the diet for he correct? If I don't get preggo this month I will not use astroglide next month.

Thanks so much for your input. I will def keep him on folic acid and vitamin d. Maybe up the folic acid for him? 3 years ago he was in 5 mg per day prescribed by dr after kidney transplant. He is now taking 1 mg.

I know you understand how I feel with age. Just wishing I wouldn't have waited so long to try to get preggo bc I really thought if have no issues since once my issue was straightened out three years ago I got preggo a week later. Thanks again for responding. Maybe ill ask my dr to do hsg sooner after I grt my fsh results back next month. Guess anything can try to help those little spermies find their way. Lol.

sorry i was away yesterday and did not see this til now

35 million is ok. it's enough, but it's NOT enough to start doing a full on sway. There is a lot more in a sperm analysis than just count, what else did they tell you?? I suspect that among the reasons he did have as good a count as he does is because of the Vit. D and folic, PLEASE have him continue those.

DTD at pos OPK has best odds of conception and I would never advise you to wait another day to have 3 days instead of 2 days between rounds. That kind of thing is minor and meaningless. DTD 7 days in a row matters, abstaining for 10 days matters, but things like 2 vs. 3 days is irrelevant. if you didn't attempt, do so NOW and as early in the day as is possible.

The unfortunate truth of being 39 and TTC (and remember I'm right there with ya ) is that odds of conception are lower. It takes fully fertile people in their prime of fertility up to 6 months to get pregnant. I understand the temptation to analyze and look for reasons but the real issue is that ya just gotta wait for the golden egg to show up and a fair number of the eggs that we have at 39 are poopy ones unfortunately. So please don't worry too much about "what went wrong last month", just regroup and try try again.

that having been said, IMO not a good idea for your dr. to recommend astroglide and I would not have anyone TTC using that if they were worried about not getting pg. I would have you guys use a little preseed, just enough for the discomfort and if it's a small amount it's not really going to sway blue, it will just be there helping the discomfort without killing off the sperm.

[atomic sagebrush]

ok so where you use 2 small drops of astroglide, use 2 small drops of Preseed instead. It's not going to sway and at the least it won't interfere with conception.

I think that DTD the night of pos OPK is perfectly fine. Waiting till the NEXT night may be too late.

I don't recommend that husbands follow LE Diet and never for your husband who needs to eat what is proper for his health and well being.

I think 1 mg folic is PLENTY for a DH and high folic acid intake in men may contriubute to the growth of certain forms of cancer so I think keeping it minimal is probably best.

[Trishy74]

Thanks AS! Oh no I meant should I still continue the diet being you said not to do any sway tactics. DH def isn't eating as much as he did as far as burgers, etc. bc I'm not really cooking dinner so much since ds is really picky and I'm doing my own thing for le diet.

So I just got the full results in the mail and I'm having a really hard time understanding everything bc I'm not an expert on sperm analysis. Lol.

So this is the current results for DH sperm analysis; says time of analysis was was exactly 60 minutes:

Total volume: 5.2 ml
Semen ph: 8.5 (states it's high; normal is 7.2 - 8.0)
Viscosity: HIGH (states out if range from normal)
Motility (forward progression): 55% (more than 32 is reference range)
WBC Concentration: <1 (which is normal)
Sperm count: 35.7 million (says >14.9 or above is reference range)
Morphology: 11%. (Reference range is >3.9)



Results from last sperm analysis on August 2010 when on vitamin d and 5 mg folic acid per day:

Total volume: 3.2 ml. (<2.0 ml reference range)
Sperm concentration: 60.0 million ml (<or 20.0 million/ml reference range)
Motility: 85% (>or 50% reference range)
Semen morphology: 37% (> or 30% normal)
Ph: 8.0. (Reference range is 7.2-8.0)
Liquification out of range - partial (reference range comp. 1 hr)
Time of motility: 62 minutes
Leukocytes: few
Red blood cells: none seen

AS since I don't understand all of this stuff does the motility look bad from the current analysis above? I know the analysis from 2010 looks a bit better to me but not sure how much worse the new one us overall. Also ph is high. Can that be a problem?

Thanks for all your help. I greatly appreciate it. Hope you had a great christmas with your family!

ok so where you use 2 small drops of astroglide, use 2 small drops of Preseed instead. It's not going to sway and at the least it won't interfere with conception.

I think that DTD the night of pos OPK is perfectly fine. Waiting till the NEXT night may be too late.

I don't recommend that husbands follow LE Diet and never for your husband who needs to eat what is proper for his health and well being.

I think 1 mg folic is PLENTY for a DH and high folic acid intake in men may contriubute to the growth of certain forms of cancer so I think keeping it minimal is probably best.

[atomic sagebrush]

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[Trishy74]

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[Trishy74]

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Thanks AS! Oh no I meant should I still continue the diet being you said not to do any sway tactics. DH def isn't eating as much as he did as far as burgers, etc. bc I'm not really cooking dinner so much since ds is really picky and I'm doing my own thing for le diet.

So I just got the full results in the mail and I'm having a really hard time understanding everything bc I'm not an expert on sperm analysis. Lol.

So this is the current results for DH sperm analysis; says time of analysis was was exactly 60 minutes:

Total volume: 5.2 ml
Semen ph: 8.5 (states it's high; normal is 7.2 - 8.0)
Viscosity: HIGH (states out if range from normal)
Motility (forward progression): 55% (more than 32 is reference range)
WBC Concentration: <1 (which is normal)
Sperm count: 35.7 million (says >14.9 or above is reference range)
Morphology: 11%. (Reference range is >3.9)



Results from last sperm analysis on August 2010 when on vitamin d and 5 mg folic acid per day:

Total volume: 3.2 ml. (<2.0 ml reference range)
Sperm concentration: 60.0 million ml (<or 20.0 million/ml reference range)
Motility: 85% (>or 50% reference range)
Semen morphology: 37% (> or 30% normal)
Ph: 8.0. (Reference range is 7.2-8.0)
Liquification out of range - partial (reference range comp. 1 hr)
Time of motility: 62 minutes
Leukocytes: few
Red blood cells: none seen

AS since I don't understand all of this stuff does the motility look bad from the current analysis above? I know the analysis from 2010 looks a bit better to me but not sure how much worse the new one us overall. Also ph is high. Can that be a problem?

Thanks for all your help. I greatly appreciate it. Hope you had a great christmas with your family!