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    Quote Originally Posted by bluebonnet22 View Post
    The 1 attempt is 70% or so success rate, 2 attempts is 60% for pink. Not sure on odds of conception, but that's the swaying stats at least.

    Interesting, thanks bluebonnet!
    As for the odds of conception, I know it depends on many factors, but does anyone know if doing just the one attempt lower the odds a lot? I just worry cause I am 37, but I wanna give pink a good shot by doing one attempt for a bit!
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    Thankyou for all your responses!

    I will stop peppermint tea.

    I have spoken to DH again, and he will stop the liquorice.. Will the effects of it stop straight away or does it take time to leave his body?

    We will BD every 4 days and at positive OPK.

    It doesn't matter how far apart the attempts are? When I get positive OPK it could be 3 days since last BD or 1 day.. either is OK?

    How soon after can we BD again? Should we wait another 4 days after OPK, or 4 days from time before, or doesn't it matter afterwards?

    Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSunshine View Post
    Interesting, thanks bluebonnet!
    As for the odds of conception, I know it depends on many factors, but does anyone know if doing just the one attempt lower the odds a lot? I just worry cause I am 37, but I wanna give pink a good shot by doing one attempt for a bit!
    It is absolutely, completely, and totally possible to get pregnant doing one attempt. There are 10's to even 100's of millions of sperm in one shot. ONe attempt doesn't lower the odds of conception anywhere near as much as many other sway tactics do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp4rkl3s View Post
    Thankyou for all your responses!

    I will stop peppermint tea.

    I have spoken to DH again, and he will stop the liquorice.. Will the effects of it stop straight away or does it take time to leave his body?

    We will BD every 4 days and at positive OPK.

    It doesn't matter how far apart the attempts are? When I get positive OPK it could be 3 days since last BD or 1 day.. either is OK?

    How soon after can we BD again? Should we wait another 4 days after OPK, or 4 days from time before, or doesn't it matter afterwards?

    Thanks again.
    LIcorice takes time to leave his body.

    With the every 4 days plus one attempt at pos OPK, it does NOT matter how far apart the attempts are. I don't even really want you to dwell on that really. Just put it ouf ot your mind.

    I would wait another 4 days from the pos OPK attempt to have sex again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoveSunshine View Post
    Hi, can I join in....!

    Atomic, why is clomid no good for women over 38?

    And, does 'one attempt only' lower the chances a lot/or 'two attempts' increase the chances a lot?

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    Clomid raises FSH levels and in older women (who will almost all have higher FSH than normal anyway) this can affect egg quality negatively and make it impossible for you to conceive while on it.

    Odds of pink have been 70-75% with one attempt, 60-65% with two attempts, and 40% with three attempts. And we are getting 80% plus success with blue with more than one attempt in fertile window. This has stayed consistent over the 3 years we've been tracking this and while we do not know why it is, it is certainly is seeming to be the case that it is one of the strongest sway tactics.
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    How have you been determining O?

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    I've been using clearblue dual hormone OPK in the morning and a non digital OPK in the afternoon.

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    What is your CM like in the 4 days up to and including O? You have been having multiple attempts in the past 5 months, timed when exactly?

    if I were in your shoes, I'd stay strict on the diet, drop the peppermint tea and BD every 3 days. And I'd do so throughout my cycle in case O isn't happening when you think. I see many ladies Oing 3+ days after their positive OPKs amd stop BDing too soon.

    My Ovulation Chart
    currently TTC, Cycle #16 since last BFP

    TTC #1 - swaying pink on & off since Nov 2013 - hoping for a girl first but excited for either!

    Dec 2001 - May 2006 : 5 early abortions of healthy singletons (3 medical @5w, 2 surgical @8w, last 4 pregnancies conceived with late DH, all conceived while TTA/on birth control)
    Mar 2012: miscarried B/G twins @5w (conceived 2 cycles after remověng Paraguard copper IUD while NTNP), one twin was ovarian ectopic

    Me: 34, widowed, late O + short LP, normal-good hormone levels excepting undetectable testosterone, seeking a known sperm donor/life partner
    My sway: vegetarian LE for over 28w, skipping breakfast, fibre (ground psyllium husks) with/before/between meals, physically inactive, drama avoidance, ocassional minimal YesBaby lube as needed, alternate cycles on low dose Clomid, double shot lattes (with meals)
    Past sway tactics I've dropped (in order): Vitex, Sudafed, antihistamines, intermittent fasting, one attempt per cycle at positive OPK, one attempt in fertile period

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    I agree with continuing the attempts after pos OPK! Don't stop having attempts until you are a kajillion % sure you have ovulated.
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