Anyone planning a Sept/Oct/Nov 2015 sway? Chat here!

[Ttc2015]

This is a lovely group to be part of, everyone is so helpful and supportive. Fingers crossed this works for everyone, you are certainly putting a lot of effort in - swaying isn't as easy as I had thought at first! I think I'm understanding the principles of the LE diet now, basically it's the opposite of what I've been doing! I have been trying to improve my health and been eating lots of nutrient rich foods, natural fats, full fat, and reduced processed foods drastically. So a bit of re thinking to do. I'm worried about how to translate the theory into actual meals that will not leave me hungry and will still be healthy, so I think I will need to buy a meal plan. Good news is that I have already lost some weight over the last month, so not been all bad, about 6lb, BMI is 21.

I can totally get where the theory is coming from, I have heard before that girls survive better in harsher conditions. My mum really struggled to have children and she told me my dad had a low sperm count (TMI, ha ha!) so they had me after a couple years of trying and then had my sister almost 6 years later. BUT then my little brother arrived very unexpectedly a couple of years later! ��

Also, I was thinking about larger ladies I know who have daughters and probably being obese lowers your fertility too? So that would explain that.

One quick questions about the diet - I'm a bit confused about grains, which are the best to eat on this diet?

Any suggestions on how to lower DH sperm count? I had thought abstaining and a hot bath! He is 33 and vegetarian, was going to ask him to up his soya intake as well as take the cranberry supps. It's been 5 years since we last conceived so I think our fertility would have naturally dropped a bit anyway, good for a sway, not so good for HT.

I'm 34. This will definitely be our last. I'm actually terrified about having another baby and how I would cope. We had always wanted 3, it was just a total shock that 2nd time round we had ID twins. Also terrified of having twins again. I felt bereft when I found out they were boys as I thought we wouldn't have any more and that was the end of the dream. It was DH who said perhaps we could have a 4th (although I suspect he was clutching at straws, anything to stop his pregnant wife bawling her eyes out!).

He didn't enjoy HT at all, took me the best part of a year to convince him. He feels really funny about it still, he isn't really keen on another attempt. He would be delighted if I said lets go for it with the swaying, said he is up for trying anything! He is really supportive, but no matter how much he tries he still doesn't really understand GD or how it makes me feel. It's such a lonely feeling and I've touched on it with friends but not really gone into detail, I'm so worried about what they will think of me. I have mentioned to one or two friends about swaying but they just laughed and said I was bonkers!

Oh, another diet question - do you think soya milk would be better than cows milk? I had been using almond milk but swapped back to dairy again thinking this was good for a sway.

We need to make a decision quick about what we want to do. Swaying would be so much easier, but Im so scared about how I would feel if I fell pregnant with another boy. I have been in the head space for so long that if I were to fall pregnant again it had to be with a girl, although I'm coming round to the idea that it's more about having number 4 than having a girl. I'm going to start on the diet and exercise now. Atomic said that there seems to be more success with people following the plan for 12 weeks. I'm not sure I could follow the diet for that long but plan to try for at least 2 months so if we def go for a sway it will be Sept or Oct.

[Ttc2015]

Hopper, afraid I'm a bit of a cynic! I would actually be really interested to see a psychic just to see what they had to say, but I think it's one of these things if you want to find something in it you will, and I tend to take these things with a massive pinch of salt. Unless you get a really good one who says things they can't possibly have guessed! You should try it, no harm! X

[Nann3r]

Thank you everyone for the support and kind words! You are all so encouraging and just like ttc2015 said this is a VERY lovely group to be a part of

Hopper I'm probably a cynic to when it comes to psychics and mediums.. Maybe cynic is the right word as I do believe there is validity to what they do.. I've just never wanted to dabble with spirits and the supernatural..

Ttc I don't know much about swaying for a girl, but I CAN tell you that I was drinking almond milk and soy milk when I conceived my daughter! We had cut out almost ALL dairy.. Imagine that lol!! DH was doing almond milk and soy milk as well. However we drank mostly almond milk. I know they say nuts sways boy, but I don't honk almond milk counts but maybe I'm wrong..



Figured I'd introduce you all to my DD I've talked so much about so far where I'm at it's almost 8:00am so goodmorning everyone from myself and DD Rowan

Fingers and toes crossed for our whole group that our sways are successful! Praying hard for all of you!


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[hopper]

This is a lovely group to be part of, everyone is so helpful and supportive. Fingers crossed this works for everyone, you are certainly putting a lot of effort in - swaying isn't as easy as I had thought at first! I think I'm understanding the principles of the LE diet now, basically it's the opposite of what I've been doing! I have been trying to improve my health and been eating lots of nutrient rich foods, natural fats, full fat, and reduced processed foods drastically. So a bit of re thinking to do. I'm worried about how to translate the theory into actual meals that will not leave me hungry and will still be healthy, so I think I will need to buy a meal plan. Good news is that I have already lost some weight over the last month, so not been all bad, about 6lb, BMI is 21.

I can totally get where the theory is coming from, I have heard before that girls survive better in harsher conditions. My mum really struggled to have children and she told me my dad had a low sperm count (TMI, ha ha!) so they had me after a couple years of trying and then had my sister almost 6 years later. BUT then my little brother arrived very unexpectedly a couple of years later! ��

Also, I was thinking about larger ladies I know who have daughters and probably being obese lowers your fertility too? So that would explain that.

One quick questions about the diet - I'm a bit confused about grains, which are the best to eat on this diet?

Thats fantastic about the weight loss hun, looks like you are on the right track already. My personal advice (now I'm far from an expert) is to tweak a few things like your calcium/magnesium supps, shift to low fat foods and stay focused. You seem really driven hun, thats half the battle IMO
As for grains, avoid things like oatmeal, porridge etc. I've been eating wheat when I have to and avoiding cereal in general as supposedly it sways blue. Makes sense - its highly fortified.
Good point about the extra weight lowing fertility for some ladies. Thats probably very true!

Any suggestions on how to lower DH sperm count? I had thought abstaining and a hot bath! He is 33 and vegetarian, was going to ask him to up his soya intake as well as take the cranberry supps. It's been 5 years since we last conceived so I think our fertility would have naturally dropped a bit anyway, good for a sway, not so good for HT.

My DH hates soya milk so won't even consider it. Just started cran supps and I will ask him to take Licorice Root 6 weeks before we make our attempt. Hoping that helps lower his sperm count! I'll ask him to have a hot bath before trying too, I'll have a hot shower after exercise and some alcohol. Does he drink coffee/tea? My DH has given up tea now as it supposedly sways blue but coffee seems to sway a little pink, probably affects fertility too. I am 33, DH is 34. I was 30, DH was 31 when we last ttc so everything crossed the age will help a little too Would your DH wear tighty whiteys? Or take up cycling? Both help sway pink.
As for abstain, I'm not sure what the best option is. Maybe one of the other ladies knows better. I never really looked into it as DH would DIE if he abstained 7-10 days lol.

I'm 34. This will definitely be our last. I'm actually terrified about having another baby and how I would cope. We had always wanted 3, it was just a total shock that 2nd time round we had ID twins. Also terrified of having twins again. I felt bereft when I found out they were boys as I thought we wouldn't have any more and that was the end of the dream. It was DH who said perhaps we could have a 4th (although I suspect he was clutching at straws, anything to stop his pregnant wife bawling her eyes out!).

He didn't enjoy HT at all, took me the best part of a year to convince him. He feels really funny about it still, he isn't really keen on another attempt. He would be delighted if I said lets go for it with the swaying, said he is up for trying anything! He is really supportive, but no matter how much he tries he still doesn't really understand GD or how it makes me feel. It's such a lonely feeling and I've touched on it with friends but not really gone into detail, I'm so worried about what they will think of me. I have mentioned to one or two friends about swaying but they just laughed and said I was bonkers!

You DH sounds very sweet and supportive My DH is completely against HT unnfortunately, even if money wasn't an issue.
GD is a terrible thing. I always feel so judged if I mention wanting a girl so I don't anymore!! I brought it up in another online forum, mother and baby/pregnancy related and WOW did I feel *this big* by the time a moderator closed the thread. Unless you have experienced GD then you just can't know how it feels.

Oh, another diet question - do you think soya milk would be better than cows milk? I had been using almond milk but swapped back to dairy again thinking this was good for a sway.

We need to make a decision quick about what we want to do. Swaying would be so much easier, but Im so scared about how I would feel if I fell pregnant with another boy. I have been in the head space for so long that if I were to fall pregnant again it had to be with a girl, although I'm coming round to the idea that it's more about having number 4 than having a girl. I'm going to start on the diet and exercise now. Atomic said that there seems to be more success with people following the plan for 12 weeks. I'm not sure I could follow the diet for that long but plan to try for at least 2 months so if we def go for a sway it will be Sept or Oct.

I'm no help on the dairy topic, I just opt for low/no fat when I need to eat dairy. It eats into my fat/protein limits if I eat the full fat stuff and doesn't keep me full etc so its a waste.
2 months strict diet should be great hun. I started May 1st but fell off the wagon for about 2ish weeks in June. Back on track since June 22. If my cycle remains similar to what its been lately (30-35 days) I should be Oing around mid Sept and would love to make our attempt then. Are you doing cardio or couch potato?

As for the psychic thing - ah I'm probably being silly and grasping at straws. My friends mother is a medium and she says she can't see any boys "around" me. I think I'd just like to believe shes right lol.

[Ttc2015]

Oh she is gorgeous Nann! What a pretty name. That's a curse of GD isn't it, you feel like something is missing and you can't be completely happy even though you have the most beautiful wonderful children you would die for, so the guilt is horrendous. It really is one of the most wretched feelings. It was lovely to hear that you had wanted to have all boys, I have felt like most people look at me and think "I would never want that". When I was expecting he twins one lady said to me "oh god, imagine if they are boys". You just assume that most women would like to have a daughter and for some reason this has made my GD worse. I shouldn't care what other people think so much! I have lots of friends I know who have 2 or more daughters and would like a son also, but are glad they have had daughters. I hardly know anyone who has just boys.

Really interesting about the almond milk! What else did you do, lol!?!! I probably did have quite a high calorie intake when conceiving my boys, loads of pasta, meat, cheese, sugar, processed foods etc. lots of everything! I am quite tall (5ft 10) and used to have quite a fast metabolism so didn't give much thought to what I ate. We also dtd later on in the cycle, around days 18-20 (I have a long cycle) and for several days in a row, and I lay there for ages after.

[Nann3r]

Thank you!! Yeah like I said she wasn't my boy.. But she is just perfection and I can't imagine my life without her!! I am so jealous of most of you who have all boys!!!

When I got pregnant with my DD I was burning at least 4,000cal a day. Low carb, low fat, low sodium. So I ate mostly chicken every day and green beans. As well as fruit smoothies with Greek yogurt, almond milk and frozen strawberries or raspberries. I also would eat turkey bacon instead of real bacon. (Less fat)

It's so funny looking back because I knew nothing about swaying. I just really wanted a boy so all I did was the "rear entry" tactic and I thought that was enough.. Little did I know I was literally doing EVERYTHING that sways pink! You would've thought I was TRYING to have a girl lol..

I'm struggling with what to do with my blue sway.. I've got the food down fairly well considering there's no food you CANT eat on the he diet as long as im fully nourished! I want to run though /: I miss running and it seems to be the only way I can shrink my thunderous thighs haha. I went shopping yesterday for the first time since DD and I have over doubled my pant size /: I'm stressing out so much and battling getting thin again or swaying and what's most important to me.. I so don't want to ruin my sway.. But I'm so uncomfortable in my own body ugh blue sway problems haha


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[Ttc2015]

Go easy on yourself, you've not long had a baby! It's a huge shock the change in your body. I knew I wanted to have another baby close in age to my first so didn't see the point in trying to shift the baby weight and did no exercise for the year between. I knew nothing about swaying either. It was funny I can remember thinking that I was having another boy when I found out I was pregnant 2nd time but that I would go on to have a girl 3rd time so I wasn't too worried, then when I found out it was twins and they were boys, I felt robbed of my 3rd attempt! Now I just feel like I can't make a girl. When we went HT there was a good gender split. Actually more girls than boys, but the embryologist said that on the whole the boys were all better quality and we were obviously naturally better at making boys. I think I would need to sway very hard.

I have been having similar smoothies - strawberries and raspberries with almond milk and natural bio live yoghurt. I had been adding bananas and spinach and flax and chia seeds but keeping them out and will switch to low fat yoghurt. I have also been juicing a bit as found this good to stave off hunger pangs and avoid snacking, but now see this is too nutritious for a girl sway. Just think it's only for the short term. You can go back to exercising and eating light soon! And I can eat more!

I usually run 2-3 times a week for about 35 mins. This isn't good for girl swaying. It's hard as it's the school holidays here so I'm with my kids all day long so there is very little chance to exercise. I'm doing a horrible obstacle course race tomorrow I signed up for ages ago and have done nothing for the last couple of weeks so it's going to hurt! Think I need to join a local gym and change what I do as I can't run for an hour at a time!

[2xblue]

hopper, those oatmeal peanut butter bites sounds amazing. Have to try them when swaying is over haha! Yes the couching is great. I have asked millions of questions from Atomic lol. I'm 100% sure 3 is our max. DH would never ever agree having a fourth. He made me promise I will not want to have a fourth one if he agrees having a third. It was really hard to get him agree on third. So I just can't do it to him wanting more and more and maybe never have a dd anyway. Also I think 3 kids is what I can handle. I have never imagined myself having four kids. I have 3 siblings and I always thought we had a huge family lol. I've always wanted 2 or three.

I've never seen a psychic but I would maybe be intrested if I knew someone highly recommended. Would be really intresting too see what she would say. I think you should give it a go if you are curious!

ttc, if your bmi is already 21 you should be really careful not to lose too much weight on LE so you don't stop ovulating. 12 weeks or more on the LE has gotten the best results but if you really feel you can't do it that long I think 8 weeks is ok. White flour is pink friendly. Avoid whole grains.

Hot bath, biking, jogging, thight underwear, soy milk and cranberry are very good for DH! Soy milk is not recommended for women when swaying pink. Not sure about the almond milk. Remember dairy is not free on LE. It has lots of protein so you must count it to fit your day's totals. And try to use low fat dairy. Frequent release is recommended to my DH (he's almost 32) but I think you should ask Atomic what she thinks is best for yours. Good luck making the decision between HT and swaying. It's not an easy one to make. As for the boy families, I have many friends who have only boys and many people I know have only boys. It's hard if you don't know many boy families and feel like your the only one but we do exist!

Nann, your daughter is absolutely beautiful! You burned 4000 cals when you got pregnant with your dd? Wow. I understand that you worry about your weight but try to think it's just going to help with your sway!

I just finished my evening treat, glass of white wine, 5 Milky Ways and sweets lol! I always look forward to this moment when boys are sleeping and I can have my wine and sweets! Todays totals: 1596 calories (right now I aim at 1600 cals), 36g fat, 35g protein. Protein is little under but will fix it tomorrow.

[has2gentlemen]

I can't even imagine burning 4k cal a day. My base metabolic rate is really high (1700) but even an hour a day of aerobics or high intensity bike riding I couldn't burn another 2300! My max exercise cals have always been around 700-800 a day. Very impressive.


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[Nann3r]

Nooooo no before I conceived my DD! I'm a personal trainer and I was training to compete someday in a bodybuilding physic competition. Lol I was working out 3x a day and running 5 miles a day!


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