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  1. #11
    Thanks everyone. Nice to know I'm not the only one finding it tough. I thought the girl diet would be hard, I expected that but now I know I have PCOS it's a million times harder. I could live solely on pasta, rice and potatoes. Without those I'm struggling to give up meat though!
    The sweet stuff is just a hard task, I have a real sweet tooth. But I've definitely made some changes this week so going to take your advice and keep going with making smaller changes until I get there! We've put our first attempt back to January instead of December as planned but I really don't want to put it back anymore!
    It's going to be a huge struggle over Christmas with all the food too. Eek!

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    What you have to do is approach it as "I'm going to do the best I can and ANY changes I make will only be beneficial". Sometimes we set ourselves up for failure but both with swaying and overall healthy changes (because eating better will be healthier for you as well) the 80-20 rule is in full effect...you get 80% of the benefits form 20% of the changes and in order to get that teeny 20% leftover benefits, you have to expend 80% of the effort to get there. So even if you're only doing a few things, you are still going to be seeing changes and probably very large ones!! Don't get so focused on that 80% of effort that you don't want to shell out (because really - who does???) that you give up totally!!
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    Thanks Atomic, excellent advice as always. I think that's what I've been doing and so thinking to myself at the slightest fail that it's all or nothing. What you've said makes great sense so I think I'll focus on making the changes that I am able to and not letting any little slip up affect how I go forward for the rest of the day/week.
    I felt like I did really well yesterday on the diet but on checking my macros on mfp I'm not sure. I had 59g protein, 31g fat, 123g carbs. That's not good is it?
    For pcos diet I mean.
    I know I shouldn't be taking in a lot of carbs but I didn't feel like I did at the time. The carbs I had was a wholemeal pita bread and 2 wholemeal sandwich thins. Oh and a pear?
    Any issues with this do you think?
    Would appreciate anyone's responses greatly!

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    Anyone help? Pretty please

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    Wow EnglishDame that is a perfect macros. would you care to share a glimpse of your food diary from that day?


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    Of course I don't mind but I didn't eat enough calories so I need to find in a way to add more without upsetting these proportions. It may be that the food I'm eating is bad for a pcos sway too but any opinions greatly appreciated!

    Ok so I wouldn't eat or drink before 10, if I do it's Diet Coke caffeine free (I drink a lot of this!), at 10 I have a cup of tea with a bit of semi skimmed milk and 2 sweeteners, at 11 I had a cadburys highlights chocolate drink made with water and some milk added too. Then at 1.30 I had a fruit gluten free sandwich thin with some flora light then a pear. At around 7 I had a wholemeal pitta bread spread it with a tomato pizza topper and low fat cheese on top (mozzarella and red) and some small chicken chunks on a top, then another gluten free fruit thin with flora light. All I drank all day was the caffeine free Diet Coke apart from the hot drinks in the morning.
    What do you think? Apart from I need to add in a few more cals!

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    Well, not knowing if there is a reason you drink tea and not coffee in the AM....also the chocolate drink seems from what i saw of the ingredients to be akin to our nesquick here "across the pond" so it probably has real sugar in it but says per serving it is only 3grams sugar....each person really has to know if they can or can not tolerate sugar and if they can what their thresh-hold limit is....i think the pcos thread recommends full fat dairy over skim so that might help with upping cals from a good source... i was not sure what gluten free fruit thins were (english muffin?) If it is the newburn type i was able to internet search they also have sugar ... but according to the pcos style pick and choose it does say 2 to 3 servings of a grain so if you know your own personal tolerance that should be ok....(time will tell if those 2 plus the pita were the right amount or if need to cut back and go for rice or something other than bread type items sometimes...cycle regularity will be a big indicator)...and the only other things i would recommend would be to make sure you are also drinking water and not just soda during the day and remember the veggies.... many can be eaten in unlimited quantity....so look over that list. HTH (hope that helps).
    Oh and no need to white knuckle it on 2 meals a day....can be 3 meals.

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    Thank you so so much that is so kind of you to give me a rundown like that!
    Yes the thins are the newburn ones and I think you're right about it being maybe too much bread type foods. I may take those out and replace with something else!
    I really don't like coffee, I wish I did as I'd love to incorporate it when it gets such good results. The chocolate drink is like nesquik but it's a low calorie one and the semi skimmed milk is only because I'm at work and it would raise everyone's eyebrows if I started drinking full fat milk especially when I'm on a 'diet'. It semi skimmed bad for pcos diet or is full fat just better?
    The number of meals I'm wary of because I figure the tea and chocolate drink would maybe raise my blood sugar in the morning so therefore it's being raised 3/4 times a day? Any thoughts?

    Honestly can't thank you enough for your comments, I've done so much reading on here and still feeling lost in it all!

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    Sorry for the delay in response....to address the full fat low fat or skim milk question, i think the swaying under special circumstance part 3 thread addressed this so i dont want to misguide anyone. I was just trying to find ways for you to sneak in a few more cals without resorting to candy etc... so the full fat milk would have a few more cals (not much really) and not from a source that would raise blood sugar/insulin .... and of course the free unlimited veggies more quilt free cals everyone with pco or pco tendencies responds to food differently so the milk choice may be a preference too...and well i only put 1 to 2 Tablespoons of a "dairy" in my coffee so which type for me is probably a minor detail
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishDame View Post
    Anyone help? Pretty please
    Agh sorry please give me several days to reply before bumping since I answer posts oldest to newest, it sends the post up to the top of rotation and makes it take that much longer to reply. I just want you guys to get your reply as quick as I can and I can only answer a certain number of questions in a day.

    Most people with PCOS aim at 100-150 g carbs a day (from good sources). Stricter people go lower (under 100) but as long as you're getting good carbs, I would not sweat that. REmember the 80-20 rule - if you can stick to 123 grams and not want to kill and or die LOL, then that is going to be an improvement and trying to go any lower would only make you miserable and unable to stick with it. I would like to see you actually eating more fat, believe it or not - you should be in 50-60 g range and this may make it possible to eat fewer carbs. (not saying you should, just that it may end up that way)
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