my final shot at this...please help

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm so sorry for your loss.

A lot of what you're planning has been debunked. You can of course use these techniques if you'd like to, just that they don't work.

The most important thing you can do is stick with ONE attempt. Shettles if you want to, but do NOT have more than one attempt. One attempt has gotten fantastic results for us regardless of the day of intercourse. I would not have you go for 4 day cutoff, odds of conception are very slim to none with that long a cutoff. I would aim for 2-3 day cutoff and please don't go too overboard tracking and temping for months before TTC, because with swaying, your cycle changes dramatically anyway. No sense putting off TTC if you want to proceed with it, for a method that is not reliable (it has happened to SO many people - they waste 6 months tracking and temping and then the month they start TTC they ovulate early and end up with their attempt right on ovulation!!)

Benedryl is 1-2 hours before attempt, success rates have not been stellar. Sways pink but not overwhelmingly so.

RepHResh every 3 days starting after AF and last dose either 8, 12, 24 hours before (sooner = lower odds of conception). Again, results very underwhelming with this - seems to be neutral, not helping or hurting a pink sway but does drastically lower odds of conception.

All lubes that are not "sperm safe" or "Conception friendly" sway pink. Most use Acijel or Sylk. Results also very underwhelming, appear neutral and seem to cut odds of conception

Also got my girl with girl on top

RE calcium and magnesium, many of us got opposites in the past using those methods and have moved away from it but if you're sold on it, what I'd do is use cal-mag SUPPLEMENTS and not get it from diet. Dairy foods have tons of other nutrients in them and when you eat a lot, you end up basically swaying boy (more nutritious diet = boys). So if you choose to use this technique, be sure you do just the supps and not the dairy foods.

[atomic sagebrush]

I guess Im just confused how diet can make you conceive a girl. I understand certain foods affecting pH, but the whole idea of making the woman conceive a girl by exercise and lowering calories and skipping breakfast just confuses me. Does it somehow alter the egg to make it more permeable to the XX sperm only? I will look into a plan. I need someone to tell me what to do and when to do it or I'll drive myself nuts. This will be my last baby and I just want a baby girl since I lost my last one so late in pregnancy. I'll start this diet tomorrow because Im looking to lose a little weight anyway. I'm 5'7 and 135 and packed on 10lbs this past year from nursing school!! So I have 6 months to prepare for TTC a baby girl and I will do what I got to.

Nobody knows why gender swaying works. All the people out there who talk about pH and ions, permeability of egg, etc. are making things up. It's just speculation. The only thing that has ever been witnessed in a lab is that XX fertilized eggs develop better than XY fertilized eggs in a lower glucose environment. The rest is all entirely guesswork.

The reason we believe that a lower nutrient diet sways pink is because boy babies need more nutrition from the moment of conception, all through pregnancy, and beyond. So a mom who has access to lots of good quality food has much more chance of a son growing up big and strong than a mom who is just getting enough to remain fertile. Same with exercise - a woman who is having to work very hard to survive may be in a better position to raise a girl (who need less resources). Gently lowering your condition and even your fertility a bit, while still being able to conceive, is yielding way more girls than boys. We don't know the mechanism of how it works in the body, exactly, but our results are showing that this approach works.

[atomic sagebrush]

Here are some essays that explain a lot of this in depth.

Timing debunked here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html

pH debunked here:http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ph-pickle.html

X and Y sperm facts (this further debunks both timing and pH) here
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/sway...m-y-sperm.html

calcium here (this is a three part series, read all three esp. the third one) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/tryi...roversial.html


Here is a LONG essay about the scientific theory underlying the "maternal condition" idea. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ypothesis.html

[rac081011]

Thanks for all the info. I am stressed out already. I think it all just boils down to 50/50 and whatever sperm gets if first...not sure I can convince myself of this swaying stuff as much as I want to. I just feel so hopeless and I haven't even started yet. I guess knowing that this WILL be my last baby and that if it's a boy I'll never have a little girl of my own and it will be devastating. I lost my little girl in the 3rd trimester and we had already had her bedroom done and her clothes bought. On my 3rd pregnancy I was hoping for another little girl but got DS2 and it was the most painful thing ever painting over my little girls pink walls. I dont know what to try and what to avoid for this. I want to try changing my diet but don't know what to eat and not eat...I know low fat and low protein but don't know what is good. I went today and bought my basal body thermometer. I think I'll stick with the BD every 4 days. With DS1 and DS2 we went at it like rabbits, but with DD it was 1 time. Wish me luck girls in figuring this out. I need lots of pink dust for my final try...

[sweetdream]

I'm sorry and understand this is very painfull.

I know how overwhelming this is.
As a mother of 3 amazing boys who actually wanted just three
I knew it was my final shot.
I didnt believe then read a lot of contradicting stuff.
After a while i made a choice. That this site had more logic. And great statistics.
I had a friend with three boys and got a girl with this site.
So i got a personal plan. Wich gave me support and helped me to let go of all the other stuff.
Also ataomic explained everything well or gave me links to essays.

I didnt have a particular boy life style with the boys it was all different (but deffo more then one attemp)
So it made it hard to believe it was possible for me.

But it worked.
I believe that diet and excercise and a one attemp are the most important sway factors.
Excercise increases the diet effects p and changes hornone levels in a good way for pink.
Let it sink in a little and take some time.
I hope you'll have a living daughter soon. A sister for your sons and other daughter.

[rac081011]

Im so tempted to buy a personalized plan but cant convince myseld to dish out that kinda money on something that might not work. So I am researching through this site to put together a plan. So far I got: BD every 4 days after AF, dropping my calories from the 2500 to 3000 calorie diet of complete fatty garbage to 1600 calories of low dat and low protein. I will skip breakfast and eat at about noon. Cardio for 60 mins most days of the week. I'll use a Benedryl on BD days and a nonsperm friendly lube like KY jelly. And maybe a finger swab of Rephresh 8hrs before BD. Anything else I should be doing? Gonna start the diet tomorrow...not sure what to put on my grocery list though...Any other suggestions?

[ImmiNAddi]

Rac - if you can afford it, a plan is definitely the best non stressful way to go I know it may not be 100% (70% girl stats are pretty good though) but I know that if it helps me get a girl, then it was $120 (Aus dollars or whatever it cost in the end, I can't remember now... lol) very well spent! Atomic gives you some great advice in a personal forum for just you and her to chat to each other.
Sounds like you have the basics now though, so good luck with what you decide

[sweetdream]

You have good sway now. And think about it the plan is including 6 months coaching. Its worth it

[rac081011]

I have a question after reading something on another post. Which is best for a girl sway.... BD every 4 days after the stopping of AF versus just one BD attempt at positive OPK? Just curious...I dont know much about OPKs such as how often to test or what time of day to test etc.

[atomic sagebrush]

I have a question after reading something on another post. Which is best for a girl sway.... BD every 4 days after the stopping of AF versus just one BD attempt at positive OPK? Just curious...I dont know much about OPKs such as how often to test or what time of day to test etc.

We don't know yet and so far I have been having people start off with the stricter option (one attempt at pos OPK, usually with a frequency pattern) and then gradually dropping tactics, eventually switching to the every 4 days. Some people who have trouble with the OPK start with the every 4 days.

I hope that over the next couple months we end up getting more tangible results with the every 4 day (since it's a newer tactic I don't yet have enough hard data to show to people yet) and it may make the decision easier.