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    Atomic you have GOT to read what this lady at just mommies wrote regarding diet!!! LMAO

    Hi all-

    This board hasn't been very active lately and I can tell you one of the reasons why: It doesn't work. Gender swaying has a place in the scientific community, but let me tell you food has nothing to do with it. I will get into this more as I write.

    DF and I are not TTC until about another year or so, but in the meantime we have been discussing plans and dreams and both decided that we would like a boy first. We have talked about just having one child but if we had a second we would try for a girl then. Of course I will love whomever decides to join our family, but might as well give it our best shot! This has led into extensive research and as a scientifically minded adult, I reason with the data and find what seems to be working best in the rest of the world.

    First of all, the food you eat has nothing to do with what kind of child you will conceive. Maybe the more nutritious the food, the better, but gender is determined by genetic material not food. Instead of dieting, I am going to spend this time eating as healthy as I can to be as fertile as I can possibly be for TTC. Increasing folic acid and vitamins/minerals seems to be the best thing to do to make your womb a prime candidate for carrying life.

    The most scientifically accurate info I can find is the timing of conception, because girls swim faster and live longer than boys as sperm. Time BD for girls 4-5 days before ovulation, and for boys 1-2 days before ovulation. It seems the most successful people are the ones who have a predictable cycle. Any success story I can find seems to be all about regulating and being able to predict your cycle and O day. Doing things like supplementing to lengthen luteal phase, and increasing fertility will naturally regulate your cycle.

    Plus, I just know that dieting shouldn't be all about what gender you want. As a nutritionist I simply cannot back that up. Your body needs nutrients, just one example is the risk for osteoporosis. As women it is risky to lower calcium intake - we are supposed to be taking extra calcium between 20 and 30 years of age to lower that risk. I don't know about you, but I'd like to preserve my hips as long as possible. As a second example, pH is not something you should f*** around with. Cancer thrives in acidic environments and studies have shown the more alkaline foods you eat (spinach, apples, lemon water, etc) lowers your risk for cancer. There are plenty more examples of why you should choose a diet that is best for your body, and not what someone else tells you is good for you. I will not give up my health just to have a boy, and neither should you!

    I have found no success story based on food alone. Let's create some success stories based upon timing and scientific material Who's with me?

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    Sounds like she will end up with 2 boys

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    Her timing is wacked...even by Shettles theory... (he never said girl sperm were faster swimmers)
    BUT, a lot of what she says is true AND it's a lot of what Atomic says, too. She is constantly discouraging people from worrying about the ph thing and will tell you that the acid base balance HAS to be in check or you can actually die.
    The trivers willard theory is about maternal condition - NOT about what foods you eat. Good maternal condition (optimal nutrition) is good for creating boys. Poor condition (moms who are malnourished either temporarily by limiting food intake or overweight - either works, however it's much easier to gain rather than lose weight and that is why Atomic recommends LOSING over gaining) yields more girls.
    I guess in a crazy round about way, this chick really is working on getting the boy she desires first and she doesn't even realize how or why. LOL.
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    Totally agree, she will get her boy. On a side note it looks like you ovulated BeadinMom
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    thankyou gender dreaming

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    Thanks bythe******!! I really hope so...now if we can get that little egg to that little sperm, everything in my world will be good!! LOL!! <--- that little guy makes me think of Richard Nixon. LOL!!
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    and one BEAUTIFUL little girl!
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    OOOh boy...Now the girl sperm are faster... PFFT! bahahaha

    Dr. Shettles is rolling over in his grave..not only that he was wrong, but that the opposite of his "findings" are the most recent research.

    I'm SO glad I let go of the timing part of swaying..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly Spirit View Post
    OOOh boy...Now the girl sperm are faster... PFFT! bahahaha

    Dr. Shettles is rolling over in his grave..not only that he was wrong, but that the opposite of his "findings" are the most recent research.

    I'm SO glad I let go of the timing part of swaying..
    No sh!t, eh? I can tell you with DS2 we tried Shettles girl timing for over a YEAR before realizing it didn't work. And that was after relaxing on cutoff all the way to O-2 and we still didn't get pregnant. And, we were using the CBFM which is more accurate than OPK's anyways.

    Meh, who knows if all this diet stuff can be scientifically proven......but I did all the 'boost your fertility' stuff last two times TTC - lots of dairy, calcium, vitamins, B6, EPO, RRL, etc etc etc and I got my brood of little boys. So I figure what the heck, let's try something different for a change, LOL. Not really counting on it to get my bundle of pink (I'm a big believer that God/higher being/fate will give you what you're fated to get) but at least it's something different to try! And bone density/osteoporosis is about a whole lot more than not drinking/eating full fat dairy for a few months.

    Looking forward to Atomic's response to this thread!
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    she never said what 3-4 days before O gets you

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkarntz1980 View Post
    she never said what 3-4 days before O gets you
    It gets you lots of BFN's and AF, because it's really frakking hard to get pregnant that far out from ov! Besides, it's irrelevant anyways as the Shettles timing theory has been debunked in the past few years.
    Me (38) and DH (38)

    SAHM military momma to DS1 (2004), DS2 (who's all boy but loves to dance, though not in a tutu!) (2006), DS3 (2009), and our rainbow baby girl DD1 (2017)

    early m/c Jan 2013

    Cycle #1 @ HRC (Oct 2014) - 6 retrieved, 4 mature, 3 fertilized and biopsied. 1XX and 1XY abnormal. 1XX no DNA found, rebiopsied and found normal, frozen.
    FET attempt #1 (Nov 2014) - cancelled due to functional cyst. FET attempt #2 (Jan 30, 2015) - NT. Remaining embie failed to thaw.

    May 2015 - started infertility treatments at OFC. Femara 2.5mg
    July 2015 - BFP after second round of Femara. Aug 4 2015 - 6w4d
    Dec 21 2015 - mmc 7w1d

    Apr 2016 - IVF Cycle #2. Converted to IUI because of uneven response and leading follicles.
    Apr 19, 2016 - IUI with 3 mature follicles (2 right, 1 left), post wash: 17mil, 94% motility and 89% rapid motility. BFN.

    June 3, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 5w.
    Sep 1, 2016 - 5mg Femara cycle. 8w.

    Our rainbow baby girl arrived on Mon Aug 28, 2017 - "After every storm comes a rainbow". We are so thankful and grateful for every moment.

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    Ok, I was really beginning to believe that timing was not a factor anymore. but still confused. I have friends who swore on timing swaying for them. in fact, one of my best friends told me try it w/ my second pregnancy, but I never did! I got both my boys, dtd on +opk. even though diet is totally different this time around, I am still afraid to let go of the timing factor?
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