Which Gender Sway Method should I use?

[Falling2Grace]

Im not sure which gender sway method to use. Ive read a lot about Shuttles and O+12 and i can't figure out which one would be better for ME.

We have two boys. We want a girl.
I charted with both so i have a history of everything with each. We were not trying to sway, we just wanted to get pregnant. BUT if you look back through everything (as far as timing goes), everything was timed perfectly for BOY according to Shuttles. Now, i realize timing is just one of the many variables in swaying, however, its really the only core evidence that i have to go from. With DS1 we DTD pretty much every day until I got a positive OPK. Now with BBT I know that we DTD the day before (not the day of and not the day after). So that says Shuttles, but then again, we were doing it everyday before that so i guess that could also be O+12?
With DS2, we only DTD the day of ovulation. We babydanced 3 days before ovulation. And that was the only two times during the fertile period....erm...im writing this out now and starting to question if it was Shuttles or O+12..seems like we unknowingly sway with both methods :doh ...i always just assumed Shuttles but maybe not? Im not sure....but anyways, ive changed my diet and using RepHresh and all that jazz and charting. I have a Baby-Comp (fertility monitor) and it gender sways too. It seems pretty much like the O+12 method (def not Shuttles). With my history and having two boys, but wanting a girl, would you advise I use the O+12 or Shuttles? I know the research is leaning more on the O+12, that Shuttles may not even be accurate, but i just want to be careful with it seeing how i have two boys already and i knew when i DTD with both.

[Mrs_P]

we don't tend to use timing on here as Shettles has been debunked (sperm swim at the same pace and live the same amount of time. Only way to differentiate is with microsort - dye and forcing sperm through laser to examine them). Most women on here have their dd with bd at opk+. 0+12 and shettles are very hard to get pregnant doing so for some women to.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...le-timing.html

There are plenty of things you can do to sway though, this is a great place to start http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ete-index.html is contains all of the essays - happy reading and any questions please ask

[Falling2Grace]

Thank you for the resources.
I am aware of the other things that are important in swaying, im especially working on my pH. I think that contributed greatly to my boys. Ive been working on my diet for a while now. Amongst other things, ....but i thought most ppl timed babydancing?? Are you saying timing is irrelevant? I thought everything was equally meaningful?
We are not JUST wanting to get pregnant. This is for certain our last. If it takes time to get pregnant, so be it. I just want my best shot at a girl.

[LacePrincess]

Welcome to GD!

Shettles has been debunked. There is no difference between female/male sperm in terms of how long they are viable or how fast they swim. What Shettles thought was girl/boy sperm was really sperm which had shed the hard outer layer (and thus smaller) and sperm which hadn't. If it was so easy to tell then fertility labs wouldn't have to inject special dyes to figure out gender, they could just look at the shape and speed under a microscope.

O+12 is an EXTREMELY difficult method to apply. Unless you happen to have an ultrasound machine at home, you have absolutely no way of narrowing the window of ovulation down more than a range of 12-36 hours. You just can't pinpoint it closer than that with any method of charting or testing available at home. Add to that that eggs don't live that long, and you either end up bd'ing before O or missing the egg entirely. Also, timing and frequency barely sways anyways, timing least of all. We have ladies here conceiving both genders with all sorts of timing and cutoffs. Seriously, it doesn't matter.

Here on GD the sway is pretty much centered around the maternal condition being able to influence gender. No guarantees, but the theory is that declining maternal condition favours girls, and thus the LE diet was born. I would encourage you to visit the girl sway forums here (Trying to Conceive a Girl and TTC Girl for Dream Members) and start by reading the FAQ stickies and go from there. There's a lot of info to absorb!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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When I joined GD I shortly learned afterwards that Shettles was wrong. He thought he saw XX and XY sperm under a microscope, but really he saw sperm in different stages of maturation of a process required to penetrate an egg.

Timing was one of the biggest aspects I had to just let go, and trust that I was doing the right thing. It was far from easy, as I had been studying Shettles for months and thought he was right.

And I can tell you that I conceived my DD either the day before or Day of O! As have many other ladies on here!

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[Falling2Grace]

Thanks ladies!
I am busy reading more now than ever. Ive been reading a lot but just from the wrong site (you know what i mean =/ )
In a way, im a bit releved to be reading about the timing thing, because my cycles are very irregular (not even really existent) atm, bc im BFing.

[The Anchor]

There is a LOT of reading to do. Myself, I started my boy sway following the Trivers Willard hypothesis, back in 2009 when Atomic was still over at IG. For me, IMHO, it just seemed to click. I did a TW sway (thanks to Atomic's advice) and got my boy. READ READ READ, and see if it gels with you. Good Luck!

[Falling2Grace]

thats the irony of it. Ive spent the last 6 months reading, but it was all on the IG site which seems to me like most of it is inaccurate....oh well im just glad i havn't gotten pregnant yet (that sounds horrible but it means i can get GOOD information from here lol)

[The Anchor]

For me, IG just seems to be a mish mash of a bunch of theories, that don't really add up in the end. That's me though, everyone has to do what they think works for them. GORGEOUS family BTW...really!

[Falling2Grace]

Mrs P - thanks for posting the links! I think im going to read through the vast majority of the links in the index lol. ive already read a few as it is.