Double LH surge and double temp spike!

[mommytotwo]

Hi everyone! This is my first time writing in the forum, but I've been reading the threads and think there is so much great information on here!!

I've been using OPKs and the "premom" app, which I really like because it charts your LH values, and I had a peak number of 1.1 on November 8 and a second peak on November 10. My hubby and I BD'd on November 9. The weird thing is I also had a temperature spike on November 10 and 12, so I can't tell which surge was "real" and if I ovulated on the 9th or 11th.

Has this happened to anyone before? I'm not sure if we should TTC again today, but I'd really like to try the one attempt to sway!

I'm also a bit nervous that I ovulated twice, though I only have one fallopian tube so chances of conceiving twins would be pretty low...

[RaisingGentlemen3]

Can you post your chart? It sounds like a possible fallback rise. Google fallback rise fertility friend and it will explain it to you and show example charts. If that's what it is it's totally normal! A lot of charts have them and it's just from a secondary estrogen surge that drops the temp one day i think. Here is mine from this cycle. You can see 2 days after the crosshairs I have a dip and it goes back up. Fallback rise
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[mommytotwo]

Oh that’s interesting! Thanks. Unfortunately I didn’t chart my temps earlier in the cycle, so I don’t know if it was lower on what I think was ovulation day. The bottom graph is the LH pattern and top is temps.

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[RaisingGentlemen3]

How do you chart LH? I've never seen that

[mommytotwo]

It’s the “Premom” app! You take a picture of your OPK sticks afterward and it calculates their value. I think they just updated it this week to do that. It’s made me more addicted to OPKs lol

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally think that fallback rises are much rarer than stairstep O's are and if not for the pos OPK and in the chart the poster shared, I would be really suspicious of that - they possibly Oed on CD 25 instead - although the LH surge complicates matters. as it is now I can't tell when someone Oed based on this chart, simply that it's likely taht you have.

NOw, as for your temps Mommytotwo - you can be having either possibility as well. YOu could have Oed sooner and are having a fallback rise, or you could have Oed later and having more of a stairstep thing going on. We can't tell just yet. We need to wait for 3 days of high temps to "prove" that O occurred and even then it's a guessing game as to when.

It happens to people all the time and is not at all unusual.

You will only ovulate twice within about 24 hours.

Now, to answer your question about how to do one attempt, what you'd do is to have attempt with FIRST positive. But then keep testing and if you get another positive within 2 days, stick with the attempt yo've already had. If it's 4 or more days out, then have another attempt and next pos OPK. And if it's 3 days, use the rule of thumb "for best chance of pink, stick with attempt I've had, for better chance conception, have another attempt" OR flip a coin if you really can't decide!

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally think that fallback rises are much rarer than stairstep O's are and if not for the pos OPK and in the chart the poster shared, I would be really suspicious of that - they possibly Oed on CD 25 instead - although the LH surge complicates matters. as it is now I can't tell when someone Oed based on this chart, simply that it's likely taht you have.

NOw, as for your temps Mommytotwo - you can be having either possibility as well. YOu could have Oed sooner and are having a fallback rise, or you could have Oed later and having more of a stairstep thing going on. We can't tell just yet. We need to wait for 3 days of high temps to "prove" that O occurred and even then it's a guessing game as to when.

It happens to people all the time and is not at all unusual.

You will only ovulate twice within about 24 hours.

Now, to answer your question about how to do one attempt, what you'd do is to have attempt with FIRST positive. But then keep testing and if you get another positive within 2 days, stick with the attempt yo've already had. If it's 4 or more days out, then have another attempt and next pos OPK. And if it's 3 days, use the rule of thumb "for best chance of pink, stick with attempt I've had, for better chance conception, have another attempt" OR flip a coin if you really can't decide!

[mommytotwo]

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I personally think that fallback rises are much rarer than stairstep O's are and if not for the pos OPK and in the chart the poster shared, I would be really suspicious of that - they possibly Oed on CD 25 instead - although the LH surge complicates matters. as it is now I can't tell when someone Oed based on this chart, simply that it's likely taht you have.

NOw, as for your temps Mommytotwo - you can be having either possibility as well. YOu could have Oed sooner and are having a fallback rise, or you could have Oed later and having more of a stairstep thing going on. We can't tell just yet. We need to wait for 3 days of high temps to "prove" that O occurred and even then it's a guessing game as to when.

It happens to people all the time and is not at all unusual.

You will only ovulate twice within about 24 hours.

Now, to answer your question about how to do one attempt, what you'd do is to have attempt with FIRST positive. But then keep testing and if you get another positive within 2 days, stick with the attempt yo've already had. If it's 4 or more days out, then have another attempt and next pos OPK. And if it's 3 days, use the rule of thumb "for best chance of pink, stick with attempt I've had, for better chance conception, have another attempt" OR flip a coin if you really can't decide!

Thanks Atomic, I appreciate the help! I know what you mean, it’s hard to tell which day because there is a temp rise after each LH peak. Looking at the new temps over the following days, do you think I most likely O’d on nov 9 or 11? We ended up BDing again on the 12th (in addition to the 9th). Hope I didn’t mess up the sway!

[atomic sagebrush]

I still don't have enough info to say, I'm sorry.

To be honest I'm not totally sure you've ovulated yet. I would have you be having intercourse every 4 days to protect against delayed ovulation.

The 12th and 9th are far enough apart to only count for one attempt.