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August 17th, 2015, 12:47 AM
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Dream Vet
Acupuncture for secondary unexplained infertility anyone?
Has anyone done acupuncture for infertility ?
I did one session a couple of days ago since I don't think there is any harm in it.
However the acupuncturist recommended me these herbs pills ( Chinese) at the end of the session.
I bought them just to research it but I feel weird about mixing unknown herbs while I'm taking clomid.
They are these little pills and the instructions say to take 20 a day! When you look at the back of the box pill it has about 10 names of weird herb names on it.
Any thoughts is appreciated.
Thanks
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August 17th, 2015, 08:58 AM
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August 17th, 2015, 09:12 AM
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Hi Healthygirl! I don't know that I would mix any type of herbs while you will be taking clomid. Did you mention that to the acupuncturist or your RE?
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August 17th, 2015, 11:21 AM
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Swaying Advice Coach
I will tell you with extreme emphatic-ness (that's a word, right?) DO NOT take Chinese medicine. I have investigated many of these "little tablets" handed out and found that there are ingredients in them that can sway blue, are dangerous, wreak havoc with the cycle, and will interact negatively with the Clomid or other fertilty medication. (and that's if they aren't contaminated with actual toxins which sometimes they are.)
"Chinese medicine" was largely invented by the leaders of the Chinese Communist party as something they could market to outsiders - they went back thru old herb books that no one even used in their country and came up with all this crap to sell to people. Acupuncture has been studied and seems to help or at least not hurt, but most of the herbs have not been studied at all.
If you list the herbs I'll be happy to point out what they actually do.
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August 17th, 2015, 03:00 PM
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Dream Vet
Thanks xxforhubby.
My insurance covers 10 visits per year so I'm just gonna go to this clinic close to my house.
Atomic thanks for scaring the shit out of me. I wasn't gonna take them and now after reading your comment I definitely won't.
Djmommy he knew I'm taking clomid.
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August 18th, 2015, 12:23 PM
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Swaying Advice Coach
LOL sorry!! Wasn't trying to scare anyone, just that I see the end results with people who take the pills and have lots of trouble with them. Plus the history of contaminants in the herbs is pretty big deal.
I find that many of the herbalists do not take the drug interactions very seriously and hand out the herbs even when they may be contraindicated (I see this quite a lot with thyroid patients)
Wishing you the best of luck and hoping the acupuncture does the trick.
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August 18th, 2015, 01:08 PM
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Dream Vet
I attached a pic of the box. Not super clear to read.
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August 18th, 2015, 01:14 PM
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I think it is a good idea not to take it! Good Luck girl!! My FX are crossed for you!
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August 18th, 2015, 04:24 PM
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Swaying Advice Coach
Several of the herbs listed are the oposite of blood thinners and may actually cause your blood to clot too easily which could be bad on Clomid/Femara as that may cause your blood to clot easier too. They are also supposed to cause your blood vessels to relax which may give you lower than normal blood pressure. If you believe in any of it the same thing can be accomplished by hot baths and eating a little garlic/hot pepper in foods (in DIETARY amounts)
1)White peony root may actually help sway pink but safety not established and def. not tested with Femara/Clomid. May mess up cycle similar to how vitex does because it does a similar thing.
2)nut sedge probably does nothing but untested for safety
3)eucommia supposedly prevents miscarriage untested for safety
4)lovage root listed as unsafe for pregnant women (and we do not know how long these things take to leave the body)
5)teasel root supposedly prevents bleeding in early pregnancy untested for safety
6)Skullcap, lowers blood pressure and untested
7)Mugwort safe in small amounts but in high doses contains high amounts of thujone which is toxic and is supposed to be avoided by pregnant women (and again we don't know how long these effects might last)
8)Angelica root - may cause miscarriage and is not supposed to be used by women planning a pregnancy. A blood thinner but I do not know if there is enough in there to counter the other things which may cause blood to clot more easily.
9)Figwort probably does nothing and not tested
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August 18th, 2015, 04:28 PM
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Swaying Advice Coach
^^^ and we also do not know that's really what is even in there, you understand. When herbal medicines were tested many of them had little to nothing of what was supposed to be in them and were filled up with other herbs or fillers that may be harmful or toxic.
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