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October 27th, 2017, 01:27 PM
#41
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OK.
That's how it goes with morphology, please don't worry about that. Morphology only matters when other markers are also bad. A guy with 99 million sperm has no worries with 4% morph.
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October 27th, 2017, 03:18 PM
#42
Ok that's good to know. Yea it seems like it make sense that with a higher sperm count the morphology number would be lower - since it's a % of all the sperm. He released 11 hours before our attempt last night - so we'll see! We both noticed that there was definitely less "material" then normal so hopefully that translates to less sperm. And we're definitely going to stick with that 1 attempt, as long as I confirm ovulation w/in the next couple of days.
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October 29th, 2017, 01:33 PM
#43
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October 29th, 2017, 04:19 PM
#44
We added an attempt in this morning I didn't want to (didn't want more than 1 attempt), but I've had 3 mornings now since +opk with no temp rise, and I felt like if I haven't ovulated yet, Thursday's attempt probably won't have much left. I'm getting SO frustrated with this long delay between +opk & temp rise. If this isn't our bfp cycle, I don't know how to approach the next cycle as far as timing our 1 attempt given that my body doesn't seem to ovulate in the normal 12-48 hours after LH surge.
Do you think long time (7 months now) swaying may be making this delay longer? With my bfp in August, I ovulated 2 days after surge (according to temp rise), last cycle I O'd 4 days after lh surge (also according to temp rise), and now I'm on morning #3 and still no temp rise. Could the long term "depletion" of my condition be extending the time between lh surge and O? This week was especially rough on my body too - I was eating less than normal (out of stress, busyness and swaying), working out a lot, and had either a stomach bug or IBS flare (hard to tell which - probably IBS).
And wouldn't Clomid hopefully shorten the time between lh surge & O?
Or, is it possible I'm ovulating earlier than I think and there's just a delay in the temp rise? This morning before our attempt I had no EWCM that I could see - seemed creamy/sticky.
As another note - I'm on CD16 and I never ovulate that late! My doctor said I might ovulate later on Clomid is that true?
Sorry for all the questions I'm just so confused/ frustrated
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October 31st, 2017, 06:19 PM
#45
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Clomid changes stuff. I think it's the Clomid.
People report all kinds of different OPK patterns with swaying so I can't say for sure from here.
You need to BD every 4 days from here on in. I think the first OPK you're getting may be false pos since temp has not risen.
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October 31st, 2017, 06:38 PM
#46
Well the thing is last cycle when this happened (O'd 4 days after +opk), I wasn't on Clomid. This is my first cycle on it. So I'm thinking maybe the swaying is the cause. Although when I got pregnant w/ my boys, my cycles were pretty much the same as they are now in terms of when I O'd and total cycle length. So who knows - maybe it's just the way my body works
My temp did finally rise as of Monday morning. But looking back and analyzing my chart with Pbn, we think it's possible I might have O'd sometime late Saturday/ early Sunday and there wasn't enough time for my Sunday morning temp to reflect that. That would have put my O day as 2 days after first +OPK - which seems more normal. We're wondering too if maybe it just takes me a little extra time for my temp to spike after O.
If not pregnant this cycle, would you advise BD E4D with 2 full days in between each BD or 3 days? I would be on cycle #2 of Clomid.
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November 2nd, 2017, 03:17 PM
#47
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Ok. Yes definitely keep picking up with the e4d after one attempt
I have seen both - people taking a day or two longer for temp to rise AND people having a surge and then taking 3-4 days to O. I just can't know which is which unfortunately! The detecting O tech is really not great.
2 days between so you'd end up (worst case) having attempt O-3 and O Day.
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November 2nd, 2017, 04:25 PM
#48
Ok, Atomic thanks. I got cross hairs today on FF and it said I O'd Sunday, but I'm just not sure that it's right (and the cross hairs are dotted so FF is not confident either!). I still think it's possible I O'ed Saturday/late Saturday. So I either had O-2 & O+1 attempts or O-3 and O day attempts - which I guess are not terrible in terms of girl sway. DH released about 11 hours before each of those attempts too so that may have cut down on the total sperm that made it in there
So I guess next cycle I'll do 1 attempt at +OPK, followed by another attempt after 2 full days have passed until I see temp rise.
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November 3rd, 2017, 04:34 PM
#49
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FX and TX! I agree no matter what you were in with well timed attempts BUT just for grins let's keep going with e4d still just in the off chance O was delayed and your temps are being tricky.
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November 4th, 2017, 09:59 PM
#50
Thanks Atomic. I've had 6 days of raised temps now so I definitely think I've O'd - guess it will be a mystery though whether it was on Saturday or Sunday Oh well - we'll see what happens in a few days!
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