My VITEX Journey

[auroara78]

Don't worry butterfly I have broken the 200 lb sound barrier as well :) Was painful at first, but now I'm over it :)

you can always lose the weight after baby!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Don't worry butterfly I have broken the 200 lb sound barrier as well :) Was painful at first, but now I'm over it :)

you can always lose the weight after baby!

Oh and I will be REALLY exercising for sure after the baby comes :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

There's nothing like seeing white streaks in your underwear...after you've seen what I have. .I can't even type it.
I am SO happy right now! I couldn't get a beta done this week..maybe tomorrow!
It should be like...800 right now!
:D
I am not morning sick, and I have a good appetite! *KNOCK ON WOOD*
I hope this little one will gift me with the opposite gender effect: little to no M/S since my boys had me hugging the toilet for months.
I have some symptoms though.. peeing like crazy and gas here and there.. and sore boobs on and off too. I know I have a healthy bean in there right now!

[Mochagirl]

Great news, butterfly!

[coocoobananas]

I hope for you that you don't get sick! Mine started earlier this time at 5 wks 4 days:( yuk!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I hope for you that you don't get sick! Mine started earlier this time at 5 wks 4 days:( yuk!

I am a believer in the opposite gender effect. I watched one of my friends experience it. And I know of others too. I'm HOPING it happens to me too!

How are you doing with the M/S?

[coocoobananas]

Well I guess I hope for the opposite of that then lol!! My friend was sick with all 3 and do far has had one of each, girl making her sicker! Yesterday was my best day and today started that way but just before noon started to feel horrible again!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Well I guess I hope for the opposite of that then lol!! My friend was sick with all 3 and do far has had one of each, girl making her sicker! Yesterday was my best day and today started that way but just before noon started to feel horrible again!

AWWW, I hope it isn't severe!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Third beta drawn this morning ladies, and I am excited to hear a result of 800+
I will call this afternoon for results. :)

[auroara78]

so excited to hear everything is progressing nicely, Butterfly..can't wait until you take your beta again just for that reassurance!

And yes, I plan on dropping weight too because I wanna be a MILF (rofl) I promised myself after each preg I would lose the weight but this time being 200 + lbs I MEAN IT! I need to get serious about mu health and I want the energy to chase around my 3 kids!

[Butterfly Spirit]

so excited to hear everything is progressing nicely, Butterfly..can't wait until you take your beta again just for that reassurance!

And yes, I plan on dropping weight too because I wanna be a MILF (rofl) I promised myself after each preg I would lose the weight but this time being 200 + lbs I MEAN IT! I need to get serious about mu health and I want the energy to chase around my 3 kids!

It is SUCH a relief! :) As of yesterday it should have been 800 so it should be MUCH higher today :) I just want to hear it! I haven't had a draw since the spotting stopped so this one is SO exciting. I had to drag my butt out of bed to do it, because I know I just had to!

And yes mam, we need to lose all that weight. I just want 3 kids and after that I want to get in shape. I hate and I mean HATE to exercise, but I love the feeling afterwards! haha

[coocoobananas]

Good luck! I'm sure they will be good numbers:)

[Mochagirl]

The LE diet worked so well for me I'm considering doing it again after birth to lose the baby weight. I'd allow more protein, though, and include whole grains and healthy fats.

Can't wait to hear your beta, butterfly!

[coocoobananas]

I'm thinking that too mocha lol! Or at least use fitnesspal

[atomic sagebrush]

I am a believer in the opposite gender effect. I watched one of my friends experience it. And I know of others too. I'm HOPING it happens to me too!

How are you doing with the M/S?

don't worry if it doesn't happen tho. :) MS doesn't seem to indicate anything reliable about gender whatsoever (and we have threads on it if you want to search.)

[atomic sagebrush]

The LE diet worked so well for me I'm considering doing it again after birth to lose the baby weight. I'd allow more protein, though, and include whole grains and healthy fats.

Can't wait to hear your beta, butterfly!

Me too!

[coocoobananas]

I found one discussion:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/2675-gender-morning-sickness-2.html

My husband is going away for 2 weeks and I am panicking about being this way and being a good mom to my 2 boys:(
He swears he thinks it's not going to last much longer and he's definately got some sixth sense stuff going on;) so hoping hes not full of crap and that he's right this is a girl! Fx... But I'm getting excited to have 3 boys... And well, just not being sick!

[Butterfly Spirit]

OMG OMG OMG OMG Ladies I just got the call!

2,218!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :running: I have goosebumps.. If it was supposed to be 800 yesterday wow..
last Wed LAST WEEK it was 100

[Mochagirl]

Great news, butterfly!!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Great news, butterfly!!!!!

Ooooh I can't believe it's that high. I wasn't expecting that! :)
I'm still gonna hold off on the sex though until Aug 1st! LMAO

[Butterfly Spirit]

Here's a good site to go to ladies: The BetaBase (http://www.betabase.info) :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

So I am watching Keeping Up With The Kardashians..
and Kourtney is having a GIRL and she is terrified!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I found one discussion:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/2675-gender-morning-sickness-2.html

My husband is going away for 2 weeks and I am panicking about being this way and being a good mom to my 2 boys:(
He swears he thinks it's not going to last much longer and he's definately got some sixth sense stuff going on;) so hoping hes not full of crap and that he's right this is a girl! Fx... But I'm getting excited to have 3 boys... And well, just not being sick!

Oh gosh Coocoo, I just read this. I am SO glad your hubby has that intuition and hopefully you will be done suffering soon! :)
Don't call yourself a bad mommy because you are sick. It's a fact, you take care of yourself first, or you can't take care of others! Can you call a friend?
That's awesome you are getting excited about the possibility of a 3rd boy! I actually am going that direction too, because I just want a healthy bean after my loss! :)

[Babyy Love]

I don't quite understand the whole beta thing..care to explain??
I'm super bitchy and hubby isn't talking to me :( he's pretty pissed I keep saying it's a boy :( I failed at my sway and I'm miserable because his family are doing all the old wives tale tricks and saying it's a boy and my god sister begged or threatened the man upstairs saying she BETTER have a boy and shes having a girl :( so now I think I have the boy :tissue: I'm not even 2 months yet and I'm already starting

[Butterfly Spirit]

I don't quite understand the whole beta thing..care to explain??
I'm super bitchy and hubby isn't talking to me :( he's pretty pissed I keep saying it's a boy :( I failed at my sway and I'm miserable because his family are doing all the old wives tale tricks and saying it's a boy and my god sister begged or threatened the man upstairs saying she BETTER have a boy and shes having a girl :( so now I think I have the boy :tissue: I'm not even 2 months yet and I'm already starting

Gosh, nobody should threaten God ever!

Now Babyy hon, there is absolutely no way to know what you are having this early. So, it's your first baby ever? HOW EXCITING! Even if it was a boy, wouldn't you want your daughter to have a big brother to protect her? ;)

I wouldn't start on anything, just be happy you are pregnant, and enjoy it! Oh you are going to LOVE feeling baby inside of you, it is such a FUN time, and is my favorite part of being prego.

As far as hcg .. it's the pregnancy hormone, and it's the indicator on whether you have a viable pregnancy or not

This is from americanpregnancy.org:

Guideline to hCG levels during pregnancy:
hCG levels in weeks from LMP (gestational age)* :

3 weeks LMP: 5 - 50 mIU/ml
4 weeks LMP: 5 - 426 mIU/ml
5 weeks LMP: 18 - 7,340 mIU/ml
6 weeks LMP: 1,080 - 56,500 mIU/ml
7 - 8 weeks LMP: 7, 650 - 229,000 mIU/ml
9 - 12 weeks LMP: 25,700 - 288,000 mIU/ml
13 - 16 weeks LMP: 13,300 - 254,000 mIU/ml
17 - 24 weeks LMP: 4,060 - 165,400 mIU/ml
25 - 40 weeks LMP: 3,640 - 117,000 mIU/ml
Non-pregnant females: <5.0 mIU/ml
Postmenopausal females: <9.5 mIU/ml

I went to get my blood drawn to gage where my hcg is sitting and if it's doubling normally every 48 hours. This was especially important to me after my loss.
So the way it works is...
My first level was 55 so 48 hours later it should be 110..and my next one was 100
depends on the hour you get your betas drawn..you should try to shoot for the same time.

So my beta should have looked like this
Mon: 55:

Wed:100

Friday 200

Sunday 400

Tues 800

Thurs 1600

And so on....

I guess pregnancy brain strikes again damnit... so it should have been 1600 Thur not 800.

I took the beta today because I didn't make it in Thursday.

[Babyy Love]

Gosh, nobody should threaten God ever!

Now Babyy hon, there is absolutely no way to know what you are having this early. So, it's your first baby ever? HOW EXCITING! Even if it was a boy, wouldn't you want your daughter to have a big brother to protect her? ;)

I wouldn't start on anything, just be happy you are pregnant, and enjoy it! Oh you are going to LOVE feeling baby inside of you, it is such a FUN time, and is my favorite part of being prego.

As far as hcg .. it's the pregnancy hormone, and it's the indicator on whether you have a viable pregnancy or not

This is from americanpregnancy.org:

Guideline to hCG levels during pregnancy:
hCG levels in weeks from LMP (gestational age)* :

3 weeks LMP: 5 - 50 mIU/ml
4 weeks LMP: 5 - 426 mIU/ml
5 weeks LMP: 18 - 7,340 mIU/ml
6 weeks LMP: 1,080 - 56,500 mIU/ml
7 - 8 weeks LMP: 7, 650 - 229,000 mIU/ml
9 - 12 weeks LMP: 25,700 - 288,000 mIU/ml
13 - 16 weeks LMP: 13,300 - 254,000 mIU/ml
17 - 24 weeks LMP: 4,060 - 165,400 mIU/ml
25 - 40 weeks LMP: 3,640 - 117,000 mIU/ml
Non-pregnant females: <5.0 mIU/ml
Postmenopausal females: <9.5 mIU/ml

I went to get my blood drawn to gage where my hcg is sitting and if it's doubling normally every 48 hours. This was especially important to me after my loss.
So the way it works is...
My first level was 55 so 48 hours later it should be 110..and my next one was 100
depends on the hour you get your betas drawn..you should try to shoot for the same time.

So my beta should have looked like this
Mon: 55:

Wed:100

Friday 200

Sunday 400

Tues 800

Thurs 1600

And so on....

I guess pregnancy brain strikes again damnit... so it should have been 1600 Thur not 800.

I took the beta today because I didn't make it in Thursday.

I'm very happy that I am pregnant but very unhappy that everyone is testing on me as well as testing my patience. I already felt like oh no I failed at my sway and I wanted my boy last. I feel so horribly selfish but everyone is rubbing it in its a boy! Haha another boy in this family! It drives a persons nuts and on top of everything my own mothers reaction broke my heart. Not a smile, not a hug, no congratulations..just str8 judgement and criticism written all over that face of hers, I cried myself to sleep for days now (sorry baby I know my tears are bothering u already)
I have been going nuts checking things such as no morning sickness means it's a boy or any little thing I can match to the fact that I'm having a boy when I don't even know! Maybe I'm just far too stressed because of my mother and then hubbies mother is talking too much. I told her I will not tell her anything because she's trying to tell too many people and it's still early. Oh gosh and his brother isn't happy because he wants to be the 1st to have a baby in the house since he's the oldest. He's so evil and hurtful about this pregnancy. I feel like everyone that should be the most supportive just wants to see us fail :tissue: I'm never this emotional I mean am I supposed to even be this e,optional so early on!?

[Butterfly Spirit]

I'm very happy that I am pregnant but very unhappy that everyone is testing on me as well as testing my patience. I already felt like oh no I failed at my sway and I wanted my boy last. I feel so horribly selfish but everyone is rubbing it in its a boy! Haha another boy in this family! It drives a persons nuts and on top of everything my own mothers reaction broke my heart. Not a smile, not a hug, no congratulations..just str8 judgement and criticism written all over that face of hers, I cried myself to sleep for days now (sorry baby I know my tears are bothering u already)
I have been going nuts checking things such as no morning sickness means it's a boy or any little thing I can match to the fact that I'm having a boy when I don't even know! Maybe I'm just far too stressed because of my mother and then hubbies mother is talking too much. I told her I will not tell her anything because she's trying to tell too many people and it's still early. Oh gosh and his brother isn't happy because he wants to be the 1st to have a baby in the house since he's the oldest. He's so evil and hurtful about this pregnancy. I feel like everyone that should be the most supportive just wants to see us fail :tissue: I'm never this emotional I mean am I supposed to even be this e,optional so early on!?

I agree, they are SO wrong to be on you about gender. They have no right, and I know how you feel!
I am not telling anyone else until I am 12 weeks...or 15.. my hubby says we will do 15 this time!
Because I don't want to hear "It's a Boy, I just know it!" Even my BFF ain't going there this time!

Tell them to BACK OFF! :(

I am sorry you are crying yourself to sleep, that makes me so sad just thinking about it.

As far as the morning sickness what I call OWT that girls make you sicker... I was SICK all 9 months with my sons, no joke. So PLEASE don't go off the "Oh no morning sickness means boy, I'm doomed!"
And yes I've heard you can be emotional at the drop of a hat so don't worry!
Your hormones are going absolutely crazy right now! You will get MANY mood swings.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Holy crap i took my progesterone like an hour ago and I feel so dizzy for no reason I could fall over!!!!

Uhh never experienced this... only when getting up too fast. This is for no reason.

Anyone else experience this?

[atomic sagebrush]

That happened to me a lot in this pregnancy early on (without the progesterone) - do you think it could be a coincidence?

If not, I think you better call the doctor's office just to be sure.

[Butterfly Spirit]

That happened to me a lot in this pregnancy early on (without the progesterone) - do you think it could be a coincidence?

If not, I think you better call the doctor's office just to be sure.

Well according to Pregnancy and Dizziness : American Pregnancy Association (http://www.americanpregnancy.org/pregnancyhealth/dizziness.html)

They say it's normal unless accompanied by cramping and bleeding.

It's just a new pregnancy symptom I guess. :)
I think I need a nap. But if it persists I will call the on-call doc.

THANK YOU for your fast reply BTW. I feel better knowing that yours was frequent..so since it's only happened once so far maybe I'm okay..hmm. Oh the waiting game! LOL

Can you believe you are due in like 2 months.. OMG, it's So exciting Atomic! :)
Do you usually go early at all?

[Butterfly Spirit]

:celebrate: Week 5 celebration! :celebrate:
I forgot I can email myself pics off my phone so here you ladies go!!!!

Already showing:

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My view: LOL some of it is definitely my baby bump!

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And here's my June BFP in focus taken with my cell phone I promised!
I then called up my BFF at 11:30 pm hysterically bawling..and I then woke up DH ahh that was a mistake! LOL

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[Butterfly Spirit]

UGh...round ligament pain tonight...OWWIE! around my right pelvic errr hip bone, I think.
It feels weird and it hurts!

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[Butterfly Spirit]

It's moved to the left side now, yup.. definitely what it is! I guess when your body knows what to do, it gets right to work!

[janie]

regarding HCG levels, they are supposed to about double, but it is not exact. i did not have a heartbeat at 7.5 weeks, and my hcg levels were going up minimally, i was told to schedule a d&C.
eight months later, 8.4 lbs of DS2 was born.




Gosh, nobody should threaten God ever!

Now Babyy hon, there is absolutely no way to know what you are having this early. So, it's your first baby ever? HOW EXCITING! Even if it was a boy, wouldn't you want your daughter to have a big brother to protect her? ;)

I wouldn't start on anything, just be happy you are pregnant, and enjoy it! Oh you are going to LOVE feeling baby inside of you, it is such a FUN time, and is my favorite part of being prego.

As far as hcg .. it's the pregnancy hormone, and it's the indicator on whether you have a viable pregnancy or not

This is from americanpregnancy.org:

Guideline to hCG levels during pregnancy:
hCG levels in weeks from LMP (gestational age)* :

3 weeks LMP: 5 - 50 mIU/ml
4 weeks LMP: 5 - 426 mIU/ml
5 weeks LMP: 18 - 7,340 mIU/ml
6 weeks LMP: 1,080 - 56,500 mIU/ml
7 - 8 weeks LMP: 7, 650 - 229,000 mIU/ml
9 - 12 weeks LMP: 25,700 - 288,000 mIU/ml
13 - 16 weeks LMP: 13,300 - 254,000 mIU/ml
17 - 24 weeks LMP: 4,060 - 165,400 mIU/ml
25 - 40 weeks LMP: 3,640 - 117,000 mIU/ml
Non-pregnant females: <5.0 mIU/ml
Postmenopausal females: <9.5 mIU/ml

I went to get my blood drawn to gage where my hcg is sitting and if it's doubling normally every 48 hours. This was especially important to me after my loss.
So the way it works is...
My first level was 55 so 48 hours later it should be 110..and my next one was 100
depends on the hour you get your betas drawn..you should try to shoot for the same time.

So my beta should have looked like this
Mon: 55:

Wed:100

Friday 200

Sunday 400

Tues 800

Thurs 1600

And so on....

I guess pregnancy brain strikes again damnit... so it should have been 1600 Thur not 800.

I took the beta today because I didn't make it in Thursday.

[Butterfly Spirit]

If you ladies were in my place.... would you make love to your DH?

The internet says not to until 12 weeks..so that's 6 weeks and a few days from now for me...and some sites say Don't do it at all, and that I think is overboard.

I can't help but be terrified! DH tried his hardest to pressure me into playing around but not going inside...

To me that's like two damn teenagers saying "We'll kiss, but we won't do anything else."

None of my pregnancies ever dragged..but this one... OH YEAH!

My hcg is good, and I took the raspberry to heal and thicken my uterine lining...

So wouldn't that make my situation better? UGH!

Am I just nuts or what? :'(

[Butterfly Spirit]

regarding HCG levels, they are supposed to about double, but it is not exact. i did not have a heartbeat at 7.5 weeks, and my hcg levels were going up minimally, i was told to schedule a d&C.
eight months later, 8.4 lbs of DS2 was born.

Thanks for sharing. :) Yeah medical pros aren't always right, are they!

[Babyy Love]

If you ladies were in my place.... would you make love to your DH?

The internet says not to until 12 weeks..so that's 6 weeks and a few days from now for me...and some sites say Don't do it at all, and that I think is overboard.

I can't help but be terrified! DH tried his hardest to pressure me into playing around but not going inside...

To me that's like two damn teenagers saying "We'll kiss, but we won't do anything else."

None of my pregnancies ever dragged..but this one... OH YEAH!

My hcg is good, and I took the raspberry to heal and thicken my uterine lining...

So wouldn't that make my situation better? UGH!

Am I just nuts or what? :'(


Wait what!? I have bonked all over this place! Now I'm scared :( was I not supposed to!? Maybe thats why I have excess cramps

[Butterfly Spirit]

Wait what!? I have bonked all over this place! Now I'm scared :( was I not supposed to!? Maybe thats why I have excess cramps

NOOOOOO you should be fine sweetheart!

I'm talking about me having sex after my M/C!!!! Totally different. Noo, you are FINE! I was completely fine with both of my pregnancies... the orgasms caused one contraction much much later in my third trimester.

Cramps are normal, especially when you haven't been prego before.. your uterus is stretching!!!! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Mocha, Atomic, anyone? ;)

HELP!!!!!

[fresas]

I would NOT have sex. You should not have sex if you are spotting, even if you aren't in danger of miscarrying. I would leave everything at peace for now.

[Mochagirl]

I wouldn't let my poor dh touch me with a 10 foot pole after my BFP, but for me it was because after 6 days of helping him with his daily release then 6 days of dtd every day, sometimes twice, i felt like I never wanted to see a penis again!!

[Mochagirl]

And yes, babyy love - cramps are completely normal. With this pregnancy I cramped all the way through my 1st trimester.

[Butterfly Spirit]

I would NOT have sex. You should not have sex if you are spotting, even if you aren't in danger of miscarrying. I would leave everything at peace for now.

I stopped spotting last Saturday. But I still feel I need to wait. :/

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it's fine and safe to have intercourse early in pregnancy with the exception of a confirmed placenta previa or bright red bleeding.

Sex during pregnancy: What's OK, what's not - MayoClinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sex-during-pregnancy/HO00140)

[Babyy Love]

And yes, babyy love - cramps are completely normal. With this pregnancy I cramped all the way through my 1st trimester.

Oh gosh I swear I can totally tolerate my period cramp now. Looking back I always was "dying" but now I wake up like ohhhh my god is this labor preparation because this *iSh hurts like a b**ch! Period cramps never woke me up but they would have me bending over on my knees in pain

[TTC5]

I had shocking cramps and back ache around my BFP!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh gosh I swear I can totally tolerate my period cramp now. Looking back I always was "dying" but now I wake up like ohhhh my god is this labor preparation because this *iSh hurts like a b**ch! Period cramps never woke me up but they would have me bending over on my knees in pain

Maybe you are feeling round ligament pain.... it HURTS! look at that illustration I posted with my post...tell me if that is where your pains are..

[Babyy Love]

Maybe you are feeling round ligament pain.... it HURTS! look at that illustration I posted with my post...tell me if that is where your pains are..

Ha! I actually had to wait for the pain again and that's 1 place I feel it. It just hurts so bad it feels like it's all over

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh gosh I swear I can totally tolerate my period cramp now. Looking back I always was "dying" but now I wake up like ohhhh my god is this labor preparation because this *iSh hurts like a b**ch! Period cramps never woke me up but they would have me bending over on my knees in pain

Make sure it's not ectopic! I just thought of that!!!
XX :HH:

[Butterfly Spirit]

DH definitely stands for DAMN Husband for me! LOL

He won.... twice. First time no problems. It wasn't rough.

I won't allow this to be frequent though..

[auroara78]

Baby Love, in regards to gender, we will all tell you Morning sickness or lack of does not indicate boy or girl either way! MS is one of those lovely things that really depend on the woman's own individual body REACTS To the preg. hormones!! I had about the same amount of MS with my two boys and this girl, the only difference was the time of day, and the fact this time I really could not stand meat, and meat did help soothe my MS with my boys...but that was about it! You do not know nor can any of the Old Wives Tales predict gender! don't worry about it....I am sorry your family and his family are being such butt heads!! This is a beatuiful time in your life, you're having your FIRST BABY!!!!!!!!! Forget everything else and just enjoy it...I also wanted my girls first and maybe a boy last (if at all) but I can tell you, if you do end up with a boy 1st, boys are great, loving, and the most supportive things ..they love their momma's!!!!

But you may very well have a girl in there...don't worry (I know easier said than done!) just try to enjoy the preg. as much as you can, esp. since you were TTC for a year! This is a time to savor the moments!!

Butterfly--very glad to hear your BETA is good. I think it's OK you gave your DH some loving, but I may also error on the side on caution and try to hold off again for a little bit. Nice bump pics!!

[Babyy Love]

Baby Love, in regards to gender, we will all tell you Morning sickness or lack of does not indicate boy or girl either way! MS is one of those lovely things that really depend on the woman's own individual body REACTS To the preg. hormones!! I had about the same amount of MS with my two boys and this girl, the only difference was the time of day, and the fact this time I really could not stand meat, and meat did help soothe my MS with my boys...but that was about it! You do not know nor can any of the Old Wives Tales predict gender! don't worry about it....I am sorry your family and his family are being such butt heads!! This is a beatuiful time in your life, you're having your FIRST BABY!!!!!!!!! Forget everything else and just enjoy it...I also wanted my girls first and maybe a boy last (if at all) but I can tell you, if you do end up with a boy 1st, boys are great, loving, and the most supportive things ..they love their momma's!!!!

But you may very well have a girl in there...don't worry (I know easier said than done!) just try to enjoy the preg. as much as you can, esp. since you were TTC for a year! This is a time to savor the moments!!

Butterfly--very glad to hear your BETA is good. I think it's OK you gave your DH some loving, but I may also error on the side on caution and try to hold off again for a little bit. Nice bump pics!!

Congratulations on your baby girl :)
Thank you auroara for your words :hugs: . I have this really weird feeling like "I know what you are in there!!" lol @ the families being butt heads THEY SURE ARE! My mother is the worst though its too heartbreaking but I have to stay away from her for now. I want a boy I just want him last because I know they are mommas boys and I want to spoil the youngest to death..it's unexplainable I guess. Oh gosh I am so addicted to meat right now :( I am lazier than ever and forever tired

[atomic sagebrush]

Babyy, just know in your heart that whatever comes to pass, soon you'll never be able to picture your life any other way! :heart:

[Butterfly Spirit]

I just wanted to report that all is still well even after two sessions of play LOL ;)
I needed it too. I'll admit it! But NOW I'm going to try to give it a rest.


I've been dreaming about making flowered headbands all night. I can't wait!
They are SO easy and CHEAP to make.. don't buy them pre-made!

So you know how I told ya'll about DH family's premontional dreams.. well his sister walked right up to him on Father's Day at the family event and asked cheerfully if I was pregnant.

I wasn't able to make the event but when he told me I said.. "Well we know your family are all dreaming that I'm pregnant!"
And He lied to her, he doesn't want them to know yet, and I don't either! We don't want to hear wise cracks on the gender!

DS#1 birthday is next month.. and I'll be 10 weeks by then and showing A LOT more, and I already show enough and even a bit bigger.. so we won't be able to hide it then :(
Plus it's a water slide, slip n slide, hot tub party and DH and I were the only ones who acted like kids last year and had a blast! Needles to say, I won't be doing that this time! ;)
We were thinking of maybe doing the end of August but there are 2 family birthdays at that time! UGH decisions!

I do want to do that gender party for sure just not sure when! I'm very excited though... never found out at 15 weeks before!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[auroara78]

Love that, Butterfly! so pretty!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Love that, Butterfly! so pretty!

Thank you Auroara! It was both fun and frustrating to make LOL :D

[Babyy Love]

Babyy, just know in your heart that whatever comes to pass, soon you'll never be able to picture your life any other way! :heart:

I know! I'm so excited we get to see and hear our love bug tomorrow :giggle: he's a ball of excitement and I'm actually showing a lot for some reason so my happiness and excitement is picking up. He keep grabbing my tummy saying "YOU! ..are getting rounder babe!"

[Butterfly Spirit]

I know! I'm so excited we get to see and hear our love bug tomorrow :giggle: he's a ball of excitement and I'm actually showing a lot for some reason so my happiness and excitement is picking up. He keep grabbing my tummy saying "YOU! ..are getting rounder babe!"

How very exciting!!! :D Try to grab a pic!

[Babyy Love]

How very exciting!!! :D Try to grab a pic!

HA! They gave us a CD which we can't see unless viewed on a computer which we no longer have :( so we have to wait till the next time to see our little dot lol the baby is tiny of course but the doctor said baby is small for 6 weeks but everything is fine baby just takes after it's tiny mommy lol

[Butterfly Spirit]

HA! They gave us a CD which we can't see unless viewed on a computer which we no longer have :( so we have to wait till the next time to see our little dot lol the baby is tiny of course but the doctor said baby is small for 6 weeks but everything is fine baby just takes after it's tiny mommy lol

Aww I was hoping you could take a pic of the screen with your phone, but no worries, there's always NEXT TIME!!! :D And babe will be bigger!

[Babyy Love]

Aww I was hoping you could take a pic of the screen with your phone, but no worries, there's always NEXT TIME!!! :D And babe will be bigger!

I owe so many pictures once I find a laptop I will post my BFP & post my tiny lovebug

[Babyy Love]

Ladies!! My appetite is all off!!
I'm worried I know I need to eat but when I eat I get full off of like 3 bites and I feel so sick I realize I'm barely eating :tissue: I don't know what to do. There's all unhealthy food here so I don't bother eating BUT when dinner time comes I DO chow down there but today I just can not eat. I made pancakes and was excited to eat until I got sick in the middle of eating. I ate all 3 slices of my turkey bacon and literately 2 bites of pancakes and slept my day away

[Butterfly Spirit]

Ladies!! My appetite is all off!!
I'm worried I know I need to eat but when I eat I get full off of like 3 bites and I feel so sick I realize I'm barely eating :tissue: I don't know what to do. There's all unhealthy food here so I don't bother eating BUT when dinner time comes I DO chow down there but today I just can not eat. I made pancakes and was excited to eat until I got sick in the middle of eating. I ate all 3 slices of my turkey bacon and literately 2 bites of pancakes and slept my day away

Some women can only get a few bites down. It will be okay..Are you stomaching your prenatal and extra folic though (if you take a side folic)

Food aversions are NORMAL! :)

[Babyy Love]

Some women can only get a few bites down. It will be okay..Are you stomaching your prenatal and extra folic though (if you take a side folic)

Food aversions are NORMAL! :)

I'm only taking prenatals and I take 1 at night before bed so I won't feel nauseous during the day

[Butterfly Spirit]

Pregnancy cravings tonight...I craved a bowl of honey nut cheerios with banana.. well... no milk.. so I improvised and used mixed berry yogurt. Interesting to say the least! Next...after a few hours:
peanut butter and honey sandwich yum! Opening the pantry and can't find the peanut butter anywhere! Next I go looking for bread....we're OUT! UGH... then I spot the tortillas in the fridge..okay that can work.. then I find the peanut butter in the FRIDGE Noooo! LOL Oh well... So I melt the PB and heat up the tortilla until it's hot, and then I squirt honey all over it and roll it up..... OOOOMG It's better than a regular PB and Honey sandwich!!!!! :D

Don't forget the Sprite to wash it down! (Since I don't have milk :( )

I'm in heaven! LOL

[Butterfly Spirit]

Too flipping tired to go get a beta done. BAH! Maybe Monday. :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

So my doctor got back from vacation today and he called me again! I was amazed as I have never had such a concerned doctor before! He was very pleased with my quantitive hcg test and asked me about my symptoms and such and says he would like to do a scan next week as thee hcg by now would be fine and he would probably even be able to detect a heartbeat! He also said "It looks as though you have a healthy viable pregnancy!" I am happy and excited! I wish I could have got my tired butt in for a beta today but oh well. :)

[myGirl]

Oh that sounds wonderful Butterfly! Can't wait to hear about your scan :HH:

[Mochagirl]

How exciting! Hearing the heartbeat for the first time is always so wonderful!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Thanks ladies! I will try to get in on Tuesday. :)
It will be nice to get an actual due date rather than going off of suspected O.

[Babyy Love]

Cursing like a sailor!!
I am so sick and haven't had a proper meal all day I just cannot eat! I'm trying to but I cant I get to the point where I'm about to puke so I stop before it comes up I mean who wants to vomit!? And my hunny is pissed as well telling me I better feed his baby!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Cursing like a sailor!!
I am so sick and haven't had a proper meal all day I just cannot eat! I'm trying to but I cant I get to the point where I'm about to puke so I stop before it comes up I mean who wants to vomit!? And my hunny is pissed as well telling me I better feed his baby!!

OMG for crying out loud, tell him I said to shut up. Women have been doing it for hundreds of years and they have healthy babies..If you can't keep anything down though you need to tell your doc. You should be able to keep something down. Crackers like saltines, gingerale, or dry toast. I'm sorry he's nagging you. I've started a bit of sickness myself and if I don't eat... it comes on. If I don't eat enough it comes on! I don't know if it's the same as my others but I hope not.

I'm sorry you are SO sick, really though if you can't keep anything down you need to tell your doc. There are anti-nausea meds and other things. I take Phenegrine for my M/S when it comes on strong. I know you can take B6 or B12 for nausea as well and it has been known to help. They can give it to you in shot form if you can't keep it down.

[atomic sagebrush]

Babyy, you may find that if you eat, you actually feel BETTER, not worse. With my first I was throwing up all the time because i never wanted to eat, but with the other kiddos I realized that eating actually prevented me from throwing up.

Try sucking a Jolly Rancher or lemon drop in the morning first thing when you get up - it can help. I was able to handle tart things a lot better than most foods.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Babyy, you may find that if you eat, you actually feel BETTER, not worse. With my first I was throwing up all the time because i never wanted to eat, but with the other kiddos I realized that eating actually prevented me from throwing up.

Try sucking a Jolly Rancher or lemon drop in the morning first thing when you get up - it can help. I was able to handle tart things a lot better than most foods.

SO right! I am discovering that with this pregnancy.. if I don't eat, I get sick! :( It's been happening since yesterday.

[Babyy Love]

OMG!! Why can't I be normal!? When I eat I am a wreck but when I don't eat I'm just weak and tired but not sick..normal?? I think not! But what I do is whatever I "crave" I go for it and I actually can stomach it. I force apples down tho and Teddy Grahams are my friends! I need to go shopping though because we have almost nothing to eat here & as long as I am forcing myself I might as well make it enjoyable. Pistacios, sunflower seed, Teddy grahams, fruit, and broccoli is what I will have to live off of..OH and white rice!
Lol Butterfly my hunny isn't THAT bad but he's afraid of losing the baby or something going wrong since the baby is tiny & since I rarely eat and I am a little extra stressed. BUT he does need to back off sometimes lol
Oh and atomic jolly ranchers!? I am excited now lol I get to eat candy for breakfast!

[CherryBlossom]

Cursing like a sailor!!
I am so sick and haven't had a proper meal all day I just cannot eat! I'm trying to but I cant I get to the point where I'm about to puke so I stop before it comes up I mean who wants to vomit!? And my hunny is pissed as well telling me I better feed his baby!!

Sorry to interrupt here.
With my first baby I had HG. I was in and out of hospital on drips. Just thinking of different things I would get sick. My dreams would cause me to get sick. Smells. The works.
It was horrid. My partner had to cook for himself outside. I lived off of coffee and ginger biscuits the first 18 odd weeks then I could eat mashed potato cheese etc but still getting sick everyday till 40 weeks.
Well guess what??? My baby was a healthy 8 pounds 5 with scores of 8 and 9!!!
Trust me your baby will be fine. Yes I puked up water but I tried getting water into my system. The times I didn't I ended up in hospital.
With my second baby. I was sick every day till 16 weeks. Then every other day till 20 weeks.
In the first trimester I lived off of ice and lemon!!!

You can get tablets to help nausea though =) not sure on what their name would be over there. My dr write me a prescription the first appointment considering my pregnancy before that.

Best of luck. A high percentage of ladies ms is pretty much gone come 15 weeks ( hate whb thy say 12 weeks lol) if you need any help just pm me =)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Sorry to interrupt here.
With my first baby I had HG. I was in and out of hospital on drips. Just thinking of different things I would get sick. My dreams would cause me to get sick. Smells. The works.
It was horrid. My partner had to cook for himself outside. I lived off of coffee and ginger biscuits the first 18 odd weeks then I could eat mashed potato cheese etc but still getting sick everyday till 40 weeks.
Well guess what??? My baby was a healthy 8 pounds 5 with scores of 8 and 9!!!
Trust me your baby will be fine. Yes I puked up water but I tried getting water into my system. The times I didn't I ended up in hospital.
With my second baby. I was sick every day till 16 weeks. Then every other day till 20 weeks.
In the first trimester I lived off of ice and lemon!!!

You can get tablets to help nausea though =) not sure on what their name would be over there. My dr write me a prescription the first appointment considering my pregnancy before that.

Best of luck. A high percentage of ladies ms is pretty much gone come 15 weeks ( hate whb thy say 12 weeks lol) if you need any help just pm me =)

You aren't interrupting here at all, everyone's input is welcome. And I hear you... I was sick all 9 months with my 2 boys but Phenegrine helped a lot. I have it in my medicine cabinet, I know it helps but it makes me REALLY tired.. and I'm already on progesterone so that makes me tired. :) I shouldn't complain.. this is NOTHING like I have been through before, I guess I'm just worried about it turning into what I've dealt with in the past.

[CherryBlossom]

You aren't interrupting here at all, everyone's input is welcome. And I hear you... I was sick all 9 months with my 2 boys but Phenegrine helped a lot. I have it in my medicine cabinet, I know it helps but it makes me REALLY tired.. and I'm already on progesterone so that makes me tired. :) I shouldn't complain.. this is NOTHING like I have been through before, I guess I'm just worried about it turning into what I've dealt with in the past.

I've read a bit into what you've gone through. But only on my phone ATM. And I don't blame you at all. I've never heard of phenerghan to help ms. But I cann see why it would make you sleepy. What category is it for pregnancy? C?
I took maxalon. It's safe during pregnancy. There's also donperadone? But it's not fully tested yet.
It sorrrrt of helped with my youngest. My eldest I would puke it back up. Even on the drip I would puke back up.
Look after yourself okay. Xo

[Butterfly Spirit]

I've read a bit into what you've gone through. But only on my phone ATM. And I don't blame you at all. I've never heard of phenerghan to help ms. But I cann see why it would make you sleepy. What category is it for pregnancy? C?
I took maxalon. It's safe during pregnancy. There's also donperadone? But it's not fully tested yet.
It sorrrrt of helped with my youngest. My eldest I would puke it back up. Even on the drip I would puke back up.
Look after yourself okay. Xo
Sorry I'm late in replying I was fascinated by this page:
http://www.moondragon.org/obgyn/pregnancy/morningsickness.html

It's the generic Promethazine that I have taken in the past. I've gotten it with my first 2 pregnancies. I'm actually not sure where it falls on the list..hmm. :\
Since I'm not as sick I'm wondering if it's my B-50 complex pill I've been on to conceive it has B-6 and B-12 in it. That might be the case.. this is different sickness, but it's not fun either lol :) Thank you!

[Babyy Love]

U are actually helping not interrupting. Thank you! I'm fine all day until I eat. I smell food or think of eating it and I get so queasy and sweaty it's crazy! I hope this goes away soon. I can eat fruits and there's no problem and plain broccoli. I also go for what I crave and it works! I have been craving spaghetti as well as stew chicken so I cannot wait to make it so I can eat in piece. I notice I crave everything that is good for me too like when there's a choice of juice or soda I cringe at the thought of soda but crave the juice.

[Butterfly Spirit]

I've had a sick pit in my stomach since last night....it's not going anywhere! UGH! :(
No nausea, just that.

[Babyy Love]

I'm in a funk today :( maybe it's the rainy weather or maybe it's the fact that there's a bunch of girls around me and everyone is in my face saying it's a boy!! Another boy in this familyyyy
SHUT UP!!! I know it already just let me come to terms with it on my own without everyone rubbing it in. I know there's mommies out there who felt it deep within the sex of their babies and everything in my bones screams B O Y ! I'm already feeling like swaying girl as soon as I give birth lol

[coocoobananas]

Well I like boys and would have been even more driven to get one if I had 2 girls! They are the sweetest things on earth and it's your first! A baby no matter what sex is super exciting!!! Plus it could very much be a girl!! I would try not to waste away your time worrying about it or let others bother you about it! You'll be kicking yourself when or even if he's here as you won't care! Why don't you tell all those people that you hope it's a boy that it will be super adorable and awesome!!??

[auroara78]

Agree with cocco 150%...I know easier said than done, but tell those ppl to shut their pieholes! It's you and your DH's long awaited baby..enjoy the moments!! :) Don't wish away the preg in hopes of swaying girl when you haven't even found out what you're having.

[Babyy Love]

Thanks ladies!! But those people are family lol
I told him to shut them up but they don't listen anyway! They seem to really think they're psychic or something but everything about me screams boy. When I feel fine about it being a boy here come another family member "damn another pair of balls in this family." or "OMG I'm so happy...ohhh *disappointed look* it's a boy though". It's like a slap in the face of how I failed at my sway and then its like hey I didn't want a boy yet but thanks for making me feel bad that it is! At least my friend says aww it's a boy ur gonna love it! But his family are the more disappointed sounding ones who make me feel bad about it

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[Butterfly Spirit]

Thanks ladies!! But those people are family lol
I told him to shut them up but they don't listen anyway! They seem to really think they're psychic or something but everything about me screams boy. When I feel fine about it being a boy here come another family member "damn another pair of balls in this family." or "OMG I'm so happy...ohhh *disappointed look* it's a boy though". It's like a slap in the face of how I failed at my sway and then its like hey I didn't want a boy yet but thanks for making me feel bad that it is! At least my friend says aww it's a boy ur gonna love it! But his family are the more disappointed sounding ones who make me feel bad about it

Sorry Babyy, family can be SO cruel! I can't believe they are already throwing it in your face that it's a boy! I mean for hellsakes you just got pregnant, it's not like they can determine anything from OWT or anything like that! Even you may be wrong. I don't want you to start out your first pregnancy like this. Just enjoy your pregnancy. It really does go by very quickly. :HH:

[CherryBlossom]

Thanks ladies!! But those people are family lol
I told him to shut them up but they don't listen anyway! They seem to really think they're psychic or something but everything about me screams boy. When I feel fine about it being a boy here come another family member "damn another pair of balls in this family." or "OMG I'm so happy...ohhh *disappointed look* it's a boy though". It's like a slap in the face of how I failed at my sway and then its like hey I didn't want a boy yet but thanks for making me feel bad that it is! At least my friend says aww it's a boy ur gonna love it! But his family are the more disappointed sounding ones who make me feel bad about it

Oh you poor thing. I can sort of relate.
My first baby we never found out the sex. From the get go I was SURE it was a girl. I couldn't imagine it being a boy. Some people went along. Some people didn't. Was my cousins that would slap it in my face. Ohhhhh nope another boy. You're too fierce to have a girl.
Come my second baby. I just knew h would be a boy. So when I had my scan and found out he was a he. I was over the moon!!! Yes secretly hoping for a girl. But wanting a little brother for my first. Honestly just so happy. We called people to tell them and they really had no care. Their reactions were oh another boy ... Oh that will be nice for ds1. Or oh I'm so sorry. You'll get a girl one day???? Hello did you not her my excitement.
Then I had people doubting he was a he around 30 weeks!!! I almost had a heart attack. I couldn't sleep at night. By this time I was 100% for having a boy. Yet people were doubting. I had a scan at 34 weeks due to placenta previa and he was very much a he lol. I could have screamed it from the roof tops hahha.

I feel a bit for my ds2. He really doesn't get the love and attention his big bro gets from family. Mil sai oh second baby isn't as important especially if it's the same sex???? I was furious. May be the reason why ds2 has me wrapped around his pinky lol.

Butterfly congrats on 7 weeks love =D

[auroara78]

congrats on 7 weeks Butterfly! any new prego symptoms or anything new going down?

[Butterfly Spirit]

I had an U/S today, and I refused the trans vaginal! lol. My doc called very soon afterwards to give me the results. My baby is there, measuring 6 weeks 5 days with a heartbeat so yay! I HATE how the tech can't say a damn word or even show you anything.
He also mentioned a small collection of blood about a inch from the fetus but he says it's normal. If I spot again, that's why! So nerve wracking. I don't go back to the doc for 5 weeks for my actual prenatal appt so..just gotta make it through July! I asked him if it was implanted on the left side or right side and he said that the techs don't tell that information and usually can't tell this early. Well darn!

Does this mean that I was less days past ovulation when I got my positive?

[atomic sagebrush]

At this stage, they can't tell quite as much with an abdominal ultrasound so I wouldn't put too much stock into how far along you are by this ultrasound. It's totally possible that you were a little further than you thought, but then again it may just be that they couldn't see very clearly! :)

Congrats on the HB!!

[Mochagirl]

Yay for a heartbeat!!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

At this stage, they can't tell quite as much with an abdominal ultrasound so I wouldn't put too much stock into how far along you are by this ultrasound. It's totally possible that you were a little further than you thought, but then again it may just be that they couldn't see very clearly! :)

Congrats on the HB!!

I'm hoping so! I just didn't want them to "search for the ovaries" part that is painful as hell. I could have tried it and maybe I should have, but the U/S lady wasn't that nice.

[auroara78]

Congrats on seeing the HB and seeing the little beanie in there!!

[Babyy Love]

Aww congrats butterfly i have been counting down the days to my next appointment! July 20th! I just want to know if everything is OK with baby because I have been going thru a lot these past couple of days. But I refuse to go to the doctor which is bad but I just know I don't need to go just yet but geez am I showing! I'm already like OMG my little tummy is puffing up! Do you think you will give birth earlier or past your due date? I keep saying I'm going to give birth on the 18th of February I just have that strong feeling..I always predict ALL of my friends and families day correctly never miss a beat so I hope I'm right about my own baby :)
OMG 5:51AM hubby wakes up because he dreams of a baby girl calling him or he feels a presence so I keep telling him if ur dreaming of a girl that means we are having a boy lol and I said watch our baby will be born at 5:51. That has been his new thing since about a week after we found out I was pregnant 5:51

[myGirl]

Congratulations on seeing the heartbeat Butterfly! Isn't it a wonderful feeling?:HH:

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congratulations on seeing the heartbeat Butterfly! Isn't it a wonderful feeling?:HH:

I didn't see it. The bitchy U/S tech wouldn't show me a thing! I wish I would have had it done in my docs office! :(
Hearing my doc say that it was there about 15 mins after I got home was reassuring though!

[TTC5]

Congrats on the HB!!!! :D

[Butterfly Spirit]

Just started noticing a constant nasty taste in my mouth...I guess this is metal mouth. Never experienced it before. UGH:P

[atomic sagebrush]

It's AWFUL isn't it?? I think it gets worse the more kids you have.

[Babyy Love]

Had a big scare! So we rushed to the hospital due to excess spotting and cramping and vomiting
But everything is ok I just need more rest & less stress
HCg-113326

[Butterfly Spirit]

Had a big scare! So we rushed to the hospital due to excess spotting and cramping and vomiting
But everything is ok I just need more rest & less stress
HCg-113326

I'm so sorry Babyy! I hope it all stops and you can relax soon! :(

[Butterfly Spirit]

Well I did it, I officially looked my mother-in-law in the eye and lied to her. She asked me if we were expecting...I said "Nope, not yet..but we're working on it!" Well I can't tell her the truth.. the WHOLE family would know before my son's combined bday party at the end of the month! And we don't want them to know! LOL I wore my biggest maternity top last night that hid my bump beautifully!

She then goes "Well you know when you do that it will be a girl right? (At that moment it's like it was confirmed for me) You know the dream I had.." (She has premonitional dreams) And I said "Yep, I believe that I will too.. but if not it's okay, I love my boys to death" And she's like "Nope. It will be a girl, I know it!" Then a little bit later she says "Then again, maybe you will have four kids.." I said "NOPE, lol, he won't allow it.." "Well, people change, and they change all the time.." :)

I only want 3. I didn't say that though!

I believe her though. This pregnancy is completely different. I don't even have headaches or heartburn..and this M/S is weird! It's not that bad. *knocks on wood* I didn't think it would be if I was carrying a girl.

But besides all the prego symptoms... my mother's intuition says "GIRL!"

I hope July hurries up! One month until the celebration scan yay! One month ago today I found out I was pregnant! I really think I am 8 weeks instead of 7 weeks and whatever days. You're right Atomic, I probably am further along than I thought. And I guess I was lucky they were able to tell 6 weeks 5 days on the abdominal ultrasound My baby probably looks like a mini baby now! :D I'm still glad I opted out of the trans vaginal!

And the last thing I want to say. I saw the Hunger Games movie last night with DH while M-I-L watched my boys... and what a horrible movie it was! Horrible plot!!!

[auroara78]

Personally I don't understand all the fuss about the Hunger games, it seems bleh to me. I didn't bother reading the books either, because it reminds me of a teenager "Running Man" or even teenagers like "Gladiator" the whole thing about two people being pit aganist their will to fight is sooooo meh....it's been overdone!

I'm glad to hear that everything is going good with preg. Butterfly....will you get a gender scan to find out at 16 weeks this time? I'm so excited for you ...do you have 4th of July plans for your boys?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Personally I don't understand all the fuss about the Hunger games, it seems bleh to me. I didn't bother reading the books either, because it reminds me of a teenager "Running Man" or even teenagers like "Gladiator" the whole thing about two people being pit aganist their will to fight is sooooo meh....it's been overdone!

I'm glad to hear that everything is going good with preg. Butterfly....will you get a gender scan to find out at 16 weeks this time? I'm so excited for you ...do you have 4th of July plans for your boys?


Thanks Auroara! Hopefully we can find out ASAP!
We are going to a fireworks show tonight and more fun tomorrow. How about you guys?

[atomic sagebrush]

Thinking of you guys and sending you tons of sticky baby dust!!! Grow babies grow!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Thinking of you guys and sending you tons of sticky baby dust!!! Grow babies grow!

Thanks Atomic! All is well with my little one!! How do I know.. the nausea that comes when I don't eat, the fact that not much sounds good to eat.. and the NASTY taste in my mouth! haha :)
I hope you have a wonderful 4th of July today with your family!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[Babyy Love]

2 months! :) && Happy 4th of July ! I love the picture butterfly

I'm so forgetful & somewhat clumsy..that's weird ! Lol
I can barely remember my sway but it sucked anyway because there were just too many events where I couldn't properly sway anyway but it's fine! I'm so stressed which is bad but my mood swings and HIS are really not clicking! According to my cousin she 2nd guessed her relationship throughout her entire pregnancy and I am feeling like being single because we never fought this much and I am more stressed than I've ever been!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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Maybe it's silly...but DH and I absolutely hate washing dishes and our dishwasher is broken so we use plastic silverware and cups for all of us..and we drink bottled water...we've done this for awhile hmmm lately we are thinking of doing filtered water in a shatter proof glass container for on the go! Then when we get a dishwasher we will use silverware and glassware again. We also don't use glassware plates and dishes because my kids break them! What does everyone else do?

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[atomic sagebrush]

Congrats for making it to the 8 week mark!! :) Now 8 more months to get thru!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congrats for making it to the 8 week mark!! :) Now 8 more months to get thru!!

4-5 more weeks and I can BREATHE though ;)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I just gotta say that Old Fashioned Lemon Drops are my best friend right now!!! ;)

[Babyy Love]

Aww Atomic ur almost there! How is everything for you?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Alright, so I officially threw up last night. LOL I was brushing my teeth and then felt I had to TMI hack up mucus this is my second thing that I despise about being pregnant.. the feeling of that extra stuff that I have to get rid of and then I get nauseous afterwards. Anyone else on the same boat? EWWW lol
But other than that I really feel like Tuesdays are my change up. So I will be happy on Tuesdays..
9 weeks YAY!!! But I will do my glittery official update on Fridays
I won't know for sure where I am until 12 week scan because then a transvaginal won't be necessary.

I just wanted to update you all. I am happy and well.. and even thankful for the nausea.
The past few days have FLOWN.. every time I turn around I am taking Progesterone! :) LOL

[Babyy Love]

Alright, so I officially threw up last night. LOL I was brushing my teeth and then felt I had to TMI hack up mucus this is my second thing that I despise about being pregnant.. the feeling of that extra stuff that I have to get rid of and then I get nauseous afterwards. Anyone else on the same boat? EWWW lol
But other than that I really feel like Tuesdays are my change up. So I will be happy on Tuesdays..
9 weeks YAY!!! But I will do my glittery official update on Fridays
I won't know for sure where I am until 12 week scan because then a transvaginal won't be necessary.

I just wanted to update you all. I am happy and well.. and even thankful for the nausea.
The past few days have FLOWN.. every time I turn around I am taking Progesterone! :) LOL

Every morning I brush my teeth puke and brush again and hold back that second urge to puke. Lol what's with the mucus feeling!?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Every morning I brush my teeth puke and brush again and hold back that second urge to puke. Lol what's with the mucus feeling!?

That's how I was with my other pregnancies so I feel your pain. And I would usually puke too. With the mucus thing it happens anywhere in the day where it gets into my throat and I have to hack it up... but always happens when I brush my teeth, YUCK! :(

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[sweetsister]

Yaaaaaaaahoooo!!!I luv olives :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yaaaaaaaahoooo!!!I luv olives :)

Haha thanks sweetie! Me TOO!!!!! ;)

AND OMG you are now 15 weeks!!! You gonna find out!?

[sweetsister]

Yes!! Today....hopefully im waiting for my doctor to call me back with a time,she has a 3 month waiting list for an appt,but shes trying to squeeze me in today i hope:nails:

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yes!! Today....hopefully im waiting for my doctor to call me back with a time,she has a 3 month waiting list for an appt,but shes trying to squeeze me in today i hope:nails:

OMG OMG OMG I'm gonna be here ALL Day long!!!!!!!! :D :running:

What time is it where you are?

[sweetsister]

lol! It is 10:30 am..i just hope i can GET an appt today,ive had 2 cancelled already.

[Butterfly Spirit]

lol! It is 10:30 am..i just hope i can GET an appt today,ive had 2 cancelled already.

Sweet! Your 10:30am is my 1:30am! haha :) I will be asleep when you get your scan, but I'll come here first thing!

Call in a few hours and keep asking! hehe Ask and ye shall receive!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I looked absolutely EVERYWHERE for my baby's heartbeat with my Sonoline B Doppler and can I find baby? NO! ARRRRRRGH!!

I guess I'm too pudgy! :'(

[Butterfly Spirit]

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For the record I just had to do it! LOL
According to my calculations and not the abdominal ultrasound, I am 10 weeks on Tuesday!
And since all the ladies I know on this blog have gotten the opposite of their test result, I'm really not worried about my result! ;)
I'm more excited than ever to find out now!

[Babyy Love]

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For the record I just had to do it! LOL
According to my calculations and not the abdominal ultrasound, I am 10 weeks on Tuesday!
And since all the ladies I know on this blog have gotten the opposite of their test result, I'm really not worried about my result! ;)
I'm more excited than ever to find out now!

What's is that?

[auroara78]

what color is that suposed to mean....? tell me the colors, and I agree, it's just for fun! The only OWT I did was the pencil/ring test (right) and baking soda test right, I had no fizz) but I don't believe in them wholeheartedly (well the ring-pencil test I do believe somewhat in)

[Butterfly Spirit]

what color is that suposed to mean....? tell me the colors, and I agree, it's just for fun! The only OWT I did was the pencil/ring test (right) and baking soda test right, I had no fizz) but I don't believe in them wholeheartedly (well the ring-pencil test I do believe somewhat in)

RED, any red cast or even pink cast to the mixture of cabbage water and FMU is a indicator of a BOY result.
Dark to light purple or even blue means GIRL.
I haven't done the baking soda one, but still might. Just for the hell of it! :)
I'll have to redo the ring string test too. That's the same one right?
I get two circles starting out. I've heard that circles can mean boy for some people.
I will have to try it again.

[Butterfly Spirit]

What's is that?

It's the red cabbage gender test. Youtube it ;)
Just a fun OWT gender test that you perform before 10 weeks of pregnancy..usually starting at 8 weeks is best.
You buy a red cabbage and cut it up and boil it in some water and then take it off the heat for and cover it for 10-12 minutes, then you separate some cabbage water in a cup and then you go pee your FMU into a cup or go get the cup of FMU you set aside earlier and you combine the two and see if there is a color change or not. You must have the exact amount of urine and cabbage water to mix. I think mine were a tad off but oh well.
I got a BOY result. I'm not taking much stock in it. The ladies that have taken it on our forum that I know about, got the opposite result of what they were carrying.
RED, any red cast or even pink cast to the mixture of cabbage water and FMU is a indicator of a BOY result.
Dark to light purple or even blue means GIRL.

Babyy you are on the cusp, and could try it if you want to.. but do it immediately. ;)
Remember it's JUST for fun... 50/50!

[Babyy Love]

It's the red cabbage gender test. Youtube it ;)
Just a fun OWT gender test that you perform before 10 weeks of pregnancy..usually starting at 8 weeks is best.
You buy a red cabbage and cut it up and boil it in some water and then take it off the heat for and cover it for 10-12 minutes, then you separate some cabbage water in a cup and then you go pee your FMU into a cup or go get the cup of FMU you set aside earlier and you combine the two and see if there is a color change or not. You must have the exact amount of urine and cabbage water to mix. I think mine were a tad off but oh well.
I got a BOY result. I'm not taking much stock in it. The ladies that have taken it on our forum that I know about, got the opposite result of what they were carrying.
RED, any red cast or even pink cast to the mixture of cabbage water and FMU is a indicator of a BOY result.
Dark to light purple or even blue means GIRL.

Babyy you are on the cusp, and could try it if you want to.. but do it immediately. ;)
Remember it's JUST for fun... 50/50!

OMG it sounds like fun! Do u have anymore? But then again I would actually think too much into lol that's just me! I would see girl and be like what nooooo! I've prepared myself for a boy now mentally because I feel like I'm having a boy and everyone has been saying he or him

[Butterfly Spirit]

Well, Babyy that is afterall the safe thing to do! :) I did the baking soda test today and it did next to nothing.. so that was a GIRL result. It's all in good fun ;) But DH actually did have fun helping me break up some red cabbage and film my test for me.

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[TTC5]

Happy 10 weeks :D

[candice]

Hi everyone...I wanted to sart vitex also but m/c on June 30. We've bd a few times here and there since and don't know if I've ovulated. My opk was real light when I did test. I want to start vitex but now wondering the what-if I'm already pregnant...I also heard to take it like stating day 3 of AF? I also heard not to take it during AF. Confusing. I wanted to start it now to bring on AF. Does that work? Any advice? It took 2 years to become pregnant without focusing real hard on it and now that I had the m/c I'm really wanting it to happen and not wait 2 years again. I want to take 3 twice a day right? That will give me a chance of a single or twins? Right? Help...:fx:

[candice]

Congrats Butterfly on ur lil bean!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi everyone...I wanted to sart vitex also but m/c on June 30. We've bd a few times here and there since and don't know if I've ovulated. My opk was real light when I did test. I want to start vitex but now wondering the what-if I'm already pregnant...I also heard to take it like stating day 3 of AF? I also heard not to take it during AF. Confusing. I wanted to start it now to bring on AF. Does that work? Any advice? It took 2 years to become pregnant without focusing real hard on it and now that I had the m/c I'm really wanting it to happen and not wait 2 years again. I want to take 3 twice a day right? That will give me a chance of a single or twins? Right? Help...:fx:

Hi Candace, I just wanted to let you know I answered this on your other thread! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

DS#1 birthday was enjoyed with his brother on Sunday with DH's family. We did a water slide water party! It was very fun! When they did cake we wanted to make an announcement right as everyone sang, but that didn't work out so we did it at present time instead. I asked the boys to tell everyone what was in mama's tummy and they said "Baby sister in there" lol but DH didn't like that so he tried to just blurt it out.. everyone was excited though and of course eager to know when we can find out the sex. My sis-in-law doesn't get how you can find out at 15 weeks, but I told her you can.. but that we will probably do 16. My mom-in-law that I told you has those premonitional dreams said that in April she dreamed of a pregnancy but not a resulting baby, and she didn't know who's it was.. now she knows it was mine because I told her about our loss. She said she dreamed the same about my sis-in-law, her daughter who also M/C.
She asked me how I felt and was like "Oh, but you were sick with your boys!" Then later on she said "I really think it's a girl.. It's a GIRL." UGH! :(

Last night I got a headache that just wouldn't quit and I got the dry heaves from it.. and finally DH had to run to 711 for extra strength tylenol. It said each capsule was 500mg! I freaked out and only took one.. well the headache is back.. is it safe? I don't want to get addicted to extra strength tylenol.

PS I HATE TAKING MY SUPPLEMENTS! Calcium, Magnesium, B-50 complex everyday BAH! I have thoughts of stopping at 12 weeks but..
I'm torn though because my son nurses so much.. and I don't have an appetite for much..
I think I need the nutrients! I also think I'm changing my mind on lunchmeat.. I think I will eat it. I need the protein! It kills me because I ate it EVERYDAY on salads with DS 1 and 2. This time I don't crave the salad.

[auroara78]

nice update, Butterfly! Can't wait till you find out whether she's right about the girl :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[Butterfly Spirit]

Alright 11 weeks... but according to my calculations 11 weeks and 3 days and I still can't find the damn fetal heartbeat!
FRUSTRATION..after all I've been through don't I deserve to hear and see it!? :'(
I did hear fetal movement though..which is good.

Can someone tell me the proper place to look? How many inches below the belly button? Thanks

[Butterfly Spirit]

UPDATE I FOUND IT! YAY!!!!

:running:

Found baby WAAAAY down LOW!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tumyIsSk2Y8&feature=youtu.be

[NCBeachyGrl]

Congratulations Butterfly on making it 11 weeks! Are you going to get a nub picture next week? It seems like you just fell pregnant. I had just starting look on the boards when you got your BFP!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congratulations Butterfly on making it 11 weeks! Are you going to get a nub picture next week? It seems like you just fell pregnant. I had just starting look on the boards when you got your BFP!

THANK YOU NC! June 3rd was my BFP and yes it has FLOWN! :) Once I was able to stop spotting and was nauseated, I knew baby was fine in there! I'm trying to decide when to make an appt for a scan. Maybe I will do closer to 13 not sure yet.

[Butterfly Spirit]

So I had one wave of morning sickness yesterday which was interesting.. and other than that I'm TIRED! OMG the past 2 days I've been sleeping A LOT, and right now I feel like I could sleep 12 hours straight!

What do you prego ladies drink to quench your thirst? I wish I didn't hate water.. I drink it as I can. It makes me sick!

[*ruby*]

Hi Butterfly,

I'm a midwife and just wanted to say at 11 weeks the best place to hear bubs is down really low. Looks like you worked that out already though!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Hi Butterfly,

I'm a midwife and just wanted to say at 11 weeks the best place to hear bubs is down really low. Looks like you worked that out already though!

I did thank you! Hey I saw your update. I hope you get your BFP!!! ;)

[*ruby*]

Thanks Butterfly

[atomic sagebrush]

So I had one wave of morning sickness yesterday which was interesting.. and other than that I'm TIRED! OMG the past 2 days I've been sleeping A LOT, and right now I feel like I could sleep 12 hours straight!

What do you prego ladies drink to quench your thirst? I wish I didn't hate water.. I drink it as I can. It makes me sick!

It always makes me sick in pregancy too. Can you tolerate carbonated water like seltzer or Perrier??

[Butterfly Spirit]

So UPDATE: I'm off Progesterone and praying! The doctor said that they usually only keep women on for 10 weeks but with me it was just insurance so anywhere from 10-12 weeks is okay to just come right off and the placenta should be taking care of it by now... So I didn't take my morning one.. I didn't want to come off of it! UGH!
But at the same time my calculations are I'm 12 weeks today..

[Butterfly Spirit]

It always makes me sick in pregancy too. Can you tolerate carbonated water like seltzer or Perrier??

I swear all carbonated drinks are making me get sick later on too! I decided to try Countrytime Lemonade..

[Butterfly Spirit]

Atomic, I have enough pills till Friday if I took 2 a day... should I taper or just trust my doc!? Just take one tonight?
I don't know what to do and trying not to freak out.
My doc was all "You could take a few more pills if you want, but I don't know if it's dangerous or not" GRRRR!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I would love to hear everyone's experiences on when you quit Progesterone and how .. was it cold turkey or taper off...and at what point. Thanks!

And I just wanted to throw in that there was no discharge on my underwear when usually there is.. I think that's from Progesterone..

[BeadinMom]

I don't know anything about discharge...I don't remember.
But I took it up until week 12 for 2 of my boys (probably should've taken it with all 3) and quit it cold turkey once I hit 12 weeks. My doctor was on top of it though...I love that man, I'm so sad he retired.
You were diagnosed with low progesterone? (Sorry, I just read the end of this thread and happened upon your question!)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I don't know anything about discharge...I don't remember.
But I took it up until week 12 for 2 of my boys (probably should've taken it with all 3) and quit it cold turkey once I hit 12 weeks. My doctor was on top of it though...I love that man, I'm so sad he retired.
You were diagnosed with low progesterone? (Sorry, I just read the end of this thread and happened upon your question!)

I asked for it at the start of my pregnancy. It was a safeguard against M/C.
My gut isn't okay with stopping cold turkey, and I'm thinking one a night for 6 nights at LEAST!
Because I read that stopping cold turkey can cause spotting... GEE I never want to see that again! :(

[BeadinMom]

You were spotting in the beginning of this pregnancy? I had it with all 3 of mine, but DS1 I was with a different doctor...she didn't prescribe any. I didn't have any more spotting after I quit the prometrium.

[Butterfly Spirit]

You were spotting in the beginning of this pregnancy? I had it with all 3 of mine, but DS1 I was with a different doctor...she didn't prescribe any. I didn't have any more spotting after I quit the prometrium.

Yes mam, I had a VERY scary start to this pregnancy :(
All has been well though..

[BeadinMom]

I'm so glad everything is okay now! Good luck!

[Butterfly Spirit]

I took a pill tonight.. can't help it. I think I'll do it until they are gone..
5 more nights..

I listened to my little one tonight again! It's so nice to be able to do that! It still wasn't easy to find even putting it exactly where I did before!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congrats Butterfly on ur lil bean!!

Thank you very much Candice, my little one is SO wanted!
I just realized I hadn't replied to your post.
BEST OF LUCK in your sway with Vitex sweetie!
Twins can happen in Vitex..but I don't think they are as common as twins are with Clomid.
With Vitex I took the 400 mg two pills a day and in the morning. I've heard it absorbs best then.

You are in Very good company here on GD! :)

[*ruby*]

The chance of twins is seriously freaking me out! DH keeps joking that it better not be twins and I haven't even told him about the increased chance with vitex.

[Butterfly Spirit]

The chance of twins is seriously freaking me out! DH keeps joking that it better not be twins and I haven't even told him about the increased chance with vitex.

LOL I really don't think chances are that high. But what's meant to be, shall be! ;)
Ok Ruby, get to work on that ticker now!

[atomic sagebrush]

I'd taper off.

[atomic sagebrush]

The chance of twins is seriously freaking me out! DH keeps joking that it better not be twins and I haven't even told him about the increased chance with vitex.

Most people on this site are taking vitex and all the twins save one have been from Clomid, not vitex. The other set of twins were identical and vitex does not cause ID twinning. I don't think vitex causes twinning very strongly at all.

[Babyy Love]

So I know I'm super late & I haven't been around much so I have lots of catching up to do but hi everyone!!
And I just wanted to add to quench my thirst I actually MUST have Ginger ale because it helps with the nausea. During dinner I take a few bites and feel like it's all about to come back up and then ginger ale clears it all up and I force drink seltzer water :sigh: & 100% juice only because I now crave juice other than that water is my best friend. Try lemon or lime or both to trick your mind into thinking it's some type of juice instead of plain water and there's flavored seltzer water as well

[Butterfly Spirit]

I'd taper off.

Thanks for replying! Me too! I don't think doing anything cold turkey is good. So I took one last night and one tonight. I have 4 pills left.. how should I take them?

[atomic sagebrush]

I'd take one a day and then stop. It's probably fine to stop at this point, but just for peace of mind.

[Butterfly Spirit]

I'd take one a day and then stop. It's probably fine to stop at this point, but just for peace of mind.

LOL I was thinking of begging my nurse and or doc tmw.. just take one a night until Im out of the first trimester..
I'll let you know how that goes. ;)

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[Butterfly Spirit]

I'M SUPER EXCITED 12 WEEKS FINALLY YAY!!!!
:running:

[NCBeachyGrl]

Huge congrats!!!!!!

[auroara78]

congrats on hitting 12 weeks!! celebration scan time now?

[dloui128]

Congrats Butterfly :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

congrats on hitting 12 weeks!! celebration scan time now?

My doc is swamped because he's supposedly been out of town for awhile.. so I can't get in for 2 weeks. UGH Pointless.. let's just make it week 15! LOL So much for 12 weeks.. it's my fault though, I should have scheduled earlier. :( The only reason I didn't was because in the past I could get in with the drop of a hat!

[atomic sagebrush]

15 weeks will be better for gender anyway! Congrats!

[Butterfly Spirit]

15 weeks will be better for gender anyway! Congrats!

Thank you Atomic, and CONGRATS to you too, you are almost done!!! :)

[fresas]

Great job! I hope things keep going in a healthy, way, and I hope in a few weeks you hear "healthy girl!"

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Well Im trying to get a 12 week scan this week, but so far it's like PULLING TEETH! And the receptionist told me that normally they don't do them until 20 weeks... GRRREEEEAAAT.. so I can't even do 15 or 16 or 17!?
BS!

I just wanted to update also that I found a strong heartbeat on my LEFT side last night still in the 160s! Left side =Anything that points girl makes me SMILE! :)
I've also been sick 24/7 with nausea that just won't quit. Thus why I don't come on much anymore.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Alright Alright My doc just called.. and he said he could do an U/S in the office next week and try to get me a picture. He does not know how to get one at the present time... LOL those STUPID stone aged machines in their offices.. they make so much money, it frustrates the crap out of me they don't update their medical equipment and NOT just keep 'what works'.
I just want a flipping picture! I don't need a formal U/S.
And he told me the formal one won't be until 20 weeks ahhh!!! I can't wait that damn long. How do you ladies convince your docs for 12 or 15 week scans? Or do you go private?

[mydream]

A 12 week "nuchal " scan is standard practice where I go. Then they don't do another till the 20 week anatomy scan. Hang In there

[TTC5]

Where I live, they do nuchal scans at 12-13 weeks.

[NCBeachyGrl]

I feel your pain! Where I live, they only do 8 week and 16-20 week scans. I am already planning on doing an elective u/s at 13 weeks and the good news is that they give you a DVD too! I would rather pay for good nub shots then get some crappy ones at the dr office!

Especially since I am trying to stay team green...in DH's eyes! LOL!

[*ruby*]

Is there anywhere close by you could get a private nub scan for a reasonable price? Sounds like that might be your best bet seeing your doc doesn't seem too positive about getting a good pic.

[auroara78]

My OB only does a 8 week U/S to confirm viable pregnancy and see a heartbeat and then a 20 week antatomy scan. If I wanted an ultrasound any other time, it'd have to be private place. Some private places are quite reasonable, I'd shop around, that way you'd get a good nub shot or at least if you want another few weeks, at 16 weeks, you'd get a reasonable guess on gender.

[Butterfly Spirit]

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[atomic sagebrush]

My doctors office does a 12 week scan just as a matter of course (but I've always been over 35, so maybe it's different if you are younger??)

[Mochagirl]

Here in Canada we're given the option of a dating u/s early in the pregnancy, we have the nuchal at 11-13 weeks, then the anatomy u/s at 20 weeks.

I hope you get a scan soon, butterfly!

[Butterfly Spirit]

My sis-in-law that has caused so much drama in my life that I have to block her from texting me, contacted my husband via text Thurs morning and said she wanted to do something VERY special for me but needs his help to do it. She wants to make an appt for a 15 weeks gender reveal scan at Fetal Fotos and pay for the session as well and afterwards there would be a pink and blue present waiting for me for whatever gender of baby I am carrying. My guess is I leave behind the other present and that would be her sneaky way of finding out what it is..and then she would spread the news against my will or just have the satisfaction of finding out first when I want absolutely nobody to know before I'm ready to tell. It's SAD..I wish I could trust her and let her pay for an amazing amazing gift. But I've trusted her too many times when I've taken her back as a friend and soon after that I am just stabbed in the back. I was even half tempted until I really thought about it. This is HUGE to me. I am planning on a gender party if we see PINK.. this is my last baby..and I am SO excited and can't stop fantasizing about it! Even just a small reveal to my mom I am SO looking forward to! I can't let there be a chance of her ruining that. I seem to be the only one that cares about finding out before 20 weeks..and it's sad. My mom doesn't care, my DH doesn't care. I have a little birthday money I've been saving so MAYBE I can convince DH to pay for some of it and go with to get a small scan and a few pics..it's better than nothing.

I also told my mom and my mom said that I don't want to be indebted to her in any way, and she just has a feeling that she is up to something.

[Butterfly Spirit]

And my last vent is being mad at myself.. I had a REALLY good reason for a 12-13 week scan but did I think of it in time to tell my doc? NO! I have major concerns over barely being able to eat or drink because I'm sick 24/7..throwing up not as much but nauseous constantly.. and then breastfeeding. What the hell is my baby getting? I didn't come off any of my supplements because as much as I HATE taking them, I know my baby needs them. So I had a good reason to see my baby and if they are growing and healthy... GRRRRRR! Well.. I guess the mini scan on Monday will reveal that.. :'(

[NCBeachyGrl]

Good luck on Monday! I can't wait to see what pics you come back with!

[fresas]

Butterfly, are you able to at least take Flintstones or another chewable multivitamin? Prenatals are the worst for nausea, but when I had terrible MS (literally throwing up anything), I could stomach a chewable MVI. I'm sorry the MS is so bad for you. I hope you feel better soon.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Butterfly, are you able to at least take Flintstones or another chewable multivitamin? Prenatals are the worst for nausea, but when I had terrible MS (literally throwing up anything), I could stomach a chewable MVI. I'm sorry the MS is so bad for you. I hope you feel better soon.
I have taken those with every pregnancy. The sour Flintstones gummy ones.
Thanks for the help! :)

[auroara78]

butterfly, did you have your mini scan yesterday?

and I'm sorry to hear that about your SIL...I too would not trust her!! It would be so nice if it was no strings attached...and I agree with freas, about the vitamins...glad you're taking flinstones, I can't ever take prenatals because early in preg they make me too sick and later they stop me up too badly, but the flintstones work OK with my body.

[Mochagirl]

Yes, I'm wondering about the scan too, butterfly!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Sorry I didn't update ladies. I decided to cancel and hold off until next week or... whenever. LOL The later the better.. and I'll try to convince my doc to do a crotch shot.

[Babyy Love]

Did Atomic have her babygirl yet?

[Mochagirl]

Yep! There's a whole thread devoted to it:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/pregnancy-talk/12556-atomic-she-here-yet-yes-she-8lbs-6-oz-19-5-inches-long-16.html#post233922

[Butterfly Spirit]

Used the doppler and it was VERY easy to find, and loud and strong! :) :) :)

And this afternoon I felt unmistakable flutters where I find my baby's heartbeat. It's so WONDERFUL!

According to my calculations I'm 14 wks and 2 days.

[Butterfly Spirit]

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Hi ladies, I am going in for my doc appt tomorrow! And Mocha and Auroara I promise that I won't cancel this time and will update. LOL Since I am getting my mini scan I have talked DH into going with me since according to ovulation I am 15 weeks on Tues.. that should be close enough to get a good idea of what we are having IMO. I have schooled him on what to look for 'those 3 lines'.. and he's actually excited, and said it! SO this is it, I am hoping that doc will be cooperative to my wishes. Just go to the crotch lol, and I will do the determining! I'll have him measure baby first though to make sure I am close enough to 15 weeks. I'm so excited though, I finally get to see my little Rainbow!

[NCBeachyGrl]

Good luck tomorrow!!! I will be stalking!

[Mochagirl]

Ohhh....how exciting! I'm stalking you too! What time is your appt?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Ohhh....how exciting! I'm stalking you too! What time is your appt?

3pm, so probably expect an evening update. :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Now it's my turn I really understand the nub theory! I see the clear difference. The skull thing i'm starting to get as well. But... YAY I am SO excited ladies!!!!

I was thinking it would be really cool if the mods of GD took all the U/S pics of nubs and put them into galleries and what the sex of the baby was confirmed as.

Ok here's a pic I found on the skull theory..

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And here's help for those on the nub theory:


BOY
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GIRL
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And I realize the skull theory is more fun, I find it interesting that the babes skulls about match their respective gender.

[auroara78]

can't wait for your update!! hope you get an idea!!

[dloui128]

can't wait to hear your update Butterfly

[Mochagirl]

can't wait to hear your update Butterfly

Me too!

[Butterfly Spirit]

VERY disappointing day! We had to take both kids to the doc, so I don't know if my doc was thrown off or not, but.. he listened to baby and then proceeded to try to talk us out of the U/S. I was pretty surprised by that. He did not even do a fundal measurement! So then he sent us out to the receptionist to make an appointment for the 20 week ultrasound so we did that..Sept 24th

Then we went to the U/S room and waited.. it was a nice ultrasound machine just like in a hospital, so I was getting excited!
Then some lady came in talking about a medical study about... Cytomegalovirus (CMV) and then I let her take some blood to test for it because it's particularly bad if you are pregnant. She says like only 1% of prego ladies actively have it...and many have already had it yada yada yada.. I thought why not.. it's just a test.. I'm not going to participate in the study or take any vaccine..

so yeah. now we get back to my doctor and why he fought so hard to not do the ultrasound.. He is clueless............ Oh I was furious.... I said "Can you get a profile shot for me?" Then DH said "Can you get an underneath shot?" "What am I measuring?" dead silence then "around 14 weeks.." NO...REALLY?
NO WAY! I thought. DH and I even got in a fight on the way home we were so frustrated. It was just horrible... I was in shock that my OB couldn't run the U/S machine...even I knew to measure from crown to rump to get the gestational age.. I'm just angry beyond words. DH was like "Well I'm amazed he doesn't know how to run the U/S...if I was an OB I'd make damn sure I knew what was going on.." etc etc "If you want to switch docs I grant you permission"

AHHHHHHHHHH :hair:

The baby was a freaking moving blob, It wasn't even clear.. I couldn't even tell what angle he was looking.. I GUESS from above. The skull couldn't even make out a shape.. he didn't even want to turn the light off.
Anyways, not sure how I feel about things at this point.. I'm just wondering if I should base things off of that and get you ladies experiences with your OBs..is it the tech's job to do the perfect pics and the docs to analyze and know what they are looking at or should the OB know both things? HELP! :'(

I was crabby still when we arrived at my MILS to visit..but later on actually the end of the visit I was telling her how water makes me just nauseous and I have to drink lots of lemonade.. and she blurted out
"It's a girl.. I know it is" 'I had a dream...." and I said " Wait, what you didn't tell me that.. WHEN?" "About a week ago" and I was just SO happy... ( I told you all she has premonitional dreams and has seen every baby before it's born into the family) She said.. I then checked to make sure nobody else was pregnant..and nobody is .. so she must be yours! I said "I really do feel that It's a girl."
So I think that was my confirmation... But DH won't buy it until he sees the U/S.

I will say this though... when I was looking at my sweet little baby I did feel it was my DD... it was just a different feeling.. I didn't feel I was looking at a boy. So I am going to beg DH to get a private scan and give him the little money I have for it. He said okay... We will go home and look at things.

So that was my day ladies.. and I said I would update :p

[BeadinMom]

Aww...that SUCKS!! If it makes you feel any better, I've only had one ultrasound during any of my pregnancies by a doctor and he was a perinatalologist...every other one has been by a tech.
Wish you could've gotten a better look, but glad you got to have that experience with your MIL!
Hope you get your true confirmation soon, so you can relax!!! :) Good luck!! Xx

[Mochagirl]

What a frustrating day! I hope you get your private scan!

[coocoobananas]

That sucks butterfly:( hope your mil turns out to be right;)

[sweetsister]

Oh nooo.i was so excited for you today:( things never turn out as you plan do they!I also had a few bumps in the road getting to my gender scan...i hope you can book a private scan for some peace of mind though:) Hang in there:flowerz:

[*ruby*]

Oh Butterfly that sucks that your doc didn't know what he was doing. An obs should def be able to do a basic u/s, not sure where you are but in Aus they are often required to do them later in preg to check fluid levels, bubs position etc. So yes, he def should have known what's what. Earlier in preg it should actually be easier for them as baby is so small and therefore it's easier get good profile shots etc. Did you get any photos?

I private scan sounds like a good idea if you really want to know gender, and yay about MIL's dream!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Okay after yesterday I am going nuts...I think I want a private immediately... My calculations say 15 weeks today...

Can you ladies tell me that it's a good idea to go in now or wait one week? Has anyone here that's been here awhile had a scan at 15 weeks and it was just fine and accurate and not wrong? I was thinking I would call a place and say if i'm not 15 weeks could I take a raincheck for 1 week...

Today looks like an exciting day. I am craving a good U/S now!

Thanks for the love and support and concern from all of you! I APPRECIATE IT! :HH:

[dloui128]

Where I live they do gender determination scans at private places at 14 weeks, and that is when I went. That stinks that your dr had no idea what he was doing with the sono machine.

[auroara78]

I think you'd be OK with a private place now...lots of women on here had gender confirmed at around 15 weeks, tho that is considered early...I would def. elect for a private place, because you pay them money, they do what you wnat them to do!! I agree that it's odd for an OB not to be able to run an U/S machine...at my OB's office the techs do all the ultrasounds cuz it's a huge practice,so I'm not even sure how good my OB would be at it since he's never done it!

Oh and the premotion your MIL had is fantastic!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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I have been thinking of how to tell you all...
I have been living a sweet euphoria this week both in smiles and tears
because I did have one private scan on Tues and the tech wrote on the screen and said..

:HH: :babyf: :HH: IT'S A GIRL!!!!!! :running:

DH and I saw nothing that indicated :diaper:
And we came home and watched countless youtube videos of boys at 14-15 weeks..
What we saw was only a girly skull and nub the whole way through.. though baby wasn't too cooperative at all! She tried an hour and a half later too.

The tech invited us back for a repeat scan to verify..and I'm trying to beg for a DVD from somewhere else. Because afterwards DH wished he paid the extra for the DVD anyway so we could watch it ourselves over and over again.

So though, I'm pretty convinced, because I already told my family with a box of pink balloons..and he's damn convinced.. it's not my formal announcement yet.. but I'm going to get my second sway together and then I will post the results next week.

For now, I'm just in shock! LOL
This week I've also been in denial, and DH is trying to snap me out of it and he is VERY excited that it all worked! I told him it's normal..ladies I know go through it all the time!

[bythestream]

Congratulations Butterfly :bigsmile:

[pinkin2011]

OMG!!!!!!!HUGE congrats to you butterfly!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooooxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooooo

[Butterfly Spirit]

OMG!!!!!!!HUGE congrats to you butterfly!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooooxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooooo

I :awe: you Pinkin! You will love your two little Princes I promise you. You and Rainbow both will just adore them! Then later on add a baby sister! :) I wouldn't trade my family for 2 girls and a boy or one boy and a girl either.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congratulations Butterfly :bigsmile:

Thank you sweetie! :)

[pinkin2011]

2 boys and a girl sounds fantastic!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

2 boys and a girl sounds fantastic!!!

So when you guys get ready to sway again, you gotta remember me and get crazy with the -ion bracelet and salt lamp!!!
:rofl:

[CherryBlossom]

Omg omg omg !!!!!!!
A girl!!!! My stomach is jumping for joy or you!!!! How exciting!!! Congrats =D

[Butterfly Spirit]

Omg omg omg !!!!!!!
A girl!!!! My stomach is jumping for joy or you!!!! How exciting!!! Congrats =D

Thank you Cherry sweetie... I almost can't believe it, but I will feel better next week! LoL

[pinkin2011]

Butterfly I will sway my butt off next time and hope I can follow in your foot steps!!! I cant remember did you do a full on sway with diet?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Butterfly I will sway my butt off next time and hope I can follow in your foot steps!!! I cant remember did you do a full on sway with diet?

Good, sweetie.. and I will help you!
I'm totally different than anyone on this site:
I know the Calcium, Magnesium, and B50 complex are old school pink sway but they were new to me and felt the most right. I did that and added prayer!

I DID NOT DIET! I Love Food Too Much!!!!!! ;)
I did abstain from Caffeine (Coke) for months!
And avoided chocolate around O!
I also started out heavier than in my other pregnancies, so I guess that's part of my sway.
I have a heavyweight friend on fb and she just announced her third girl on Tues. She has been heavy for years but it's gotten her pink Every time!

I am going to put my sway together and post it next week! I waited until now to do it.

[Butterfly Spirit]

Sometimes I think your bodies are thrown off because there aren't enough nutrients to conceive and since there is no concrete girl sway I think several of you might not get enough calories.
That's my opinion and please nobody yell at me for it!

Oh, I also drank whole milk and ate 1 activia strawberry breakfast yogurt once a day.
At least a pack of 4 a week.

I got tons of calcium! LoL

And I used Vitex, RepHresh, and SYLK.

I did a pretty dedicated sway in my opinion WITHOUT the dreaded diet! :)

I made DH do supplements! Cranberry...Calcium, and Mag and I can't remember if he took the B50 but I think he did.. In the month I conceived Rainbow though he did not take them really.

[NCBeachyGrl]

Congrats Butterfly!!!!!!!!! Did you post any pics in the u/s forum?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congrats Butterfly!!!!!!!!! Did you post any pics in the u/s forum?

Thank you Beachy!
The girl gave us some pics but none helped with gender. She didn't even save the shot she wrote "IT'S A GIRL" on, and I was SO upset! I wanted a nub pic for crying out loud! Especially to reassure me over the looooong week ahead!

We are going back and will get more pics and I will put something up if DH will let me go somewhere to get it scanned.

[coocoobananas]

You still have to pot pics for us to see!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

You still have to pot pics for us to see!!!

Well I know that. :p As long as they aren't crappy ones like the 3 I got..I will I promise!
We don't have a scanner or I would scan the best one of baby face down.

[Butterfly Spirit]

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hee hee hee I didn't know where else to post this..
But I just HAD to share.. I laughed SO hard!

[BeadinMom]

Congrats on the girl lean, Butterfly!! :) So happy for you!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congrats on the girl lean, Butterfly!! :) So happy for you!!

Thanks Beadin! 3 days to go now! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

I just wanted to point out how I took my Vitex for new ladies trying it..
I did 2, 400mg Nature's Way capsules together in the morning because I read somewhere that it absorbs best then.
And I was taking it alone until I got migraines so I combined it with my other supplements and magnesium and the headaches stopped.

[suregena]

Congratulations, Butterfly. I'm so happy for you!!!

We're going to attempt this cycle, but I am completely off diet... been eating breakfast (we've been on holiday this month - twice!) and pretty much, whatever, whenever. I'm sad because I feel like it will be a boy, though I will love a boy. I just feel annoyed I've given up already... but my body just wasn't working right. :/ And I want to get pregnant faster than this, sigh.

[suregena]

In fact, the only sway factor is DH agreed to FR... er... and... that's it. We're both vegetarian already but we conceived a boy as vegetarians so I'm not leaning on that fact much. I keep wanting to try to not snack/have breakfast, but not happened yet. Might try to stick to that now that we're back from the second vacation (We were in Scotland over the weekend...)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congratulations, Butterfly. I'm so happy for you!!!

We're going to attempt this cycle, but I am completely off diet... been eating breakfast (we've been on holiday this month - twice!) and pretty much, whatever, whenever. I'm sad because I feel like it will be a boy, though I will love a boy. I just feel annoyed I've given up already... but my body just wasn't working right. :/ And I want to get pregnant faster than this, sigh.

:HH: Thank you Surgena sweetie!
I think this is just what your body needs. And also not eating strictly will take a LOAD of stress off of you so you can conceive. And you've done the supplements now for a few cycles so that's probably fine to go without those too!
I wish you the best of luck this next cycle and I really think that you will be pregnant soon, just keep that faith. The GD is hard, but you do have a beautiful son. Maybe you will end up surprised too and the work that you did will pay off this next cycle. Just try not to stress and just have fun in the bedroom and let go of everything.

You sure go on some lovely Holidays! :) Take care sweetie, and I hope to hear happy BFP news soon!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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I just could not wait... so I called up the U/S place and got in tonight!!!!
But it's confirmed ladies, IT'S A GIRL!!!!!!! :running:
There were three lines the whole time... nothing between her little legs!
Bare with me while I figure out how to get the pics up

I am just in shock and OVER THE MOON! The tech was an OB from Europe and he has been doing this for years and he was working at that place a few years ago because we saw him there.
He told us that he is the owner! So that made me Very happy! DH Is VERY Happy!
We called up his mom and we are going to have a gender party, and I can't wait!
The U/S tech said his daughter has 4 boys. I told him to tell her to try Vitex! LOL

I just can't thank you ladies enough for the REAL love and support you have given me for the many months I have been on this site!

:HH: Thank you GD, and THANK YOU Atomic!!!!!!! And thank you Mocha for the sweet counseling and advice you gave me after my loss. :HH:

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[Mochagirl]

Woohoo!!!!!! I'm over the moon for you, butterfly!!!!

[ThreeMenAndALAdy]

Congrats Butterfly!!!! I loved reading the excitement in your posts. I only used Vitex for one month before I got pregnant. Do you have to take it for a few months before it can "help"? I hope a few weeks on it worked for me...

[Butterfly Spirit]

Woohoo!!!!!! I'm over the moon for you, butterfly!!!!

:HH:: Thank you for everything Mocha, I'm sure the Red raspberry leave capsules also swayed PINK!
How are you feeling hon?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Congrats Butterfly!!!! I loved reading the excitement in your posts. I only used Vitex for one month before I got pregnant. Do you have to take it for a few months before it can "help"? I hope a few weeks on it worked for me...

Thank you ThreeMen, I also only took it for one month... less than that actually more like 2 weeks and I conceived my loss baby and then I took it from the day after my loss until 5 days before O and that also averaged 2 weeks!
SO YES MAM It can work like that!!!!
I don't think it's too common though. If you are more sensitive to it you'll prob respond to it faster. I think the average is 3-4 months before it makes a difference.

[ThreeMenAndALAdy]

LOVE IT!!!!! You've been a great source of information and I'm glad your hard work has paid off. Enjoy your little girl. I still look at mine and can't believe she's part of MY family. She's almost 3 and there's not a day that goes by that I'm not grateful to be blessed with both genders. Congrats again!!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

LOVE IT!!!!! You've been a great source of information and I'm glad your hard work has paid off. Enjoy your little girl. I still look at mine and can't believe she's part of MY family. She's almost 3 and there's not a day that goes by that I'm not grateful to be blessed with both genders. Congrats again!!!

Thanks, I always try to put happy things and pictures and such up. It makes a brighter forum. :)
And I love to help out!
And thanks so much, I am just SO excited!!! I hope Vitex swayed PINK for you hon.
Your little girl would LOVE a baby sister!!!!
Hey, when you gonna put a ticker up!? lol