Dreaming Pink Due Date Group: TTC and Beyond

[Emily]

Thanks, all!! I know it's likely just implantation, but I had some significant spotting this morning so I'm really nervous. I got a blood draw today and will do another Friday. Fx the levels are rising! :fx:

I know that you are not meant to google but I did. Depending on which site you believe, between 25-30% of healthy pregnancies have spotting in first trimester. I know what you mean about being nervous though. I hope your doctor can give you good news ASAP.

[Niva]

Thank you, Charlee and Emily! Googling symptoms is ok when you do it for someone else's symptoms! Those are very reassuring odds. In addition to all the normal reasons for wanting a sticky bean, I doubly dread the possibility of going back onto the LE diet after all the damage I've done to it in the past day and a half, haha.

[Cagirl09]

Got some feedback from my doctor and she said my betas look good! That is such a relief, especially after the spotting I was having. :) Going to try and relax and enjoy this pregnancy now. Of course I will continue to check in on you lovely ladies and cheer you on!Can't wait until we're all in the DDClubs! :)

[Soar]

Congrats Niva!!!!!!!

[Emily]

TSP (tiny skinny positive) rather than BFP this morning with FMU:) spotting and cramping getting less and temp still looking good. I am starting to get more excited than worried. Will POAS again tomorrow to see if the line is stronger and can be photographed.

[Niva]

TSP? Hahaha, I like it! I was waiting for your bfp but a TSP is nearly as good! Those early pg symptoms just can't be ignored, can they? The hard tight feeling and light cramping is so give-away. Did you know the line would be there today? I had a feeling the line would show up on the day it did. :)

Congrats!!!!! I know it's real for you and will only get darker!!!
:celebrate::cheer:

[Niva]

Uggh. Got my blood test results back from yesterday, and HGC is only 11. Progesterone is fine at 25.5. I'll get blood drawn again tomorrow to see if the hcg levels have doubled by then, but I won't get the results until Monday. I'm hopeful that my low levels might only be a sign that it's very early in the pg. I tested SO early that it's quite possible, and these tests these days are SO sensitive, but... I'm going to stick to LE principles a little while longer in case we have to start over again. :(

On the plus side, I poas again this morning, not with fmu, and the line was definitely darker than yesterday morning's with fmu. So my gut feeling is that my HGC levels are still rising.
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[GeCon]

Niva, please don't stress yourself about it. I have a good feeling that everything is okay for you and it is all just due to it being so early. From your chart it looks like implantation may have only happened on 8DPO, which would explain your initial low numbers.

:fx:

[Niva]

Thank you, GeCon. I'm sure you're right. It's just hard not to worry that hcg should have been higher than 11 at 3 days post implantation. And that was the day AFTER my bfp, so that stick gave me a nice lovely line at less than 11 hcg!

[Emily]

Niva, please don't stress yourself about it. I have a good feeling that everything is okay for you and it is all just due to it being so early. From your chart it looks like implantation may have only happened on 8DPO, which would explain your initial low numbers.

:fx:
Niva I agree 8 DPO looks like your dip. Fingers crossed for you.

[Niva]

I found a good article about the rise of hcg during the first week after implantion. It is a dense read but I THINK my levels are normal for 3 days post implantation.

Urinary hCG patterns during the week following implantation (http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/content/23/2/271.full)

Update: Scratch that, the units are different and even DH, a bona fide biochemist, couldn't figure out the conversion. Our hcg lab tests are reported in mIU/ml and this study measured the hcg in ng/ml.

[Dollydot]

Congrats Niva, lovely to see an other BFP it's giving me hope, well done....

[bunnywabbit]

Yay, Niva! Congrats! x :bighug:

[Mathilde]

Things are looking up ladies! Congrats to all bfp and tsp:)!! I bought my first opk after work, tested on loo at home w ds1, his friend and builder(!) outside the loo door(!) and it smiled at me! Had lots to do this afternoon, sent the boys out cycling, was shagged by DH, no romantic baby making here no! From behind, j&d after two minutes, by then ds1 had crept in the house and looked very suspiciously at us, asking what we were doing lol!! And then got about daily business. Swim upwards little pink ones and down little blue!

[GeCon]

Mathilde, great news on the smiley.

I ovulated yesterday, so am 1DPO today. Is there any point in BD'ing again tonight? I am thinking it may be too late...

[Emily]

Mathilde, great news on the smiley.

I ovulated yesterday, so am 1DPO today. Is there any point in BD'ing again tonight? I am thinking it may be too late...

I don't think so unless the mood takes you. ;)

[Cagirl09]

Hey Niva,

(please excuse any typos, I'm adjusting to life without am coffee!). Thanks for sharing that article, I read through the article yesterday and I too was stumped by the conversion. However, there was one thing I didn't need a conversion to understand and that was that at this early stage, teh levesl in HCG don't necessarily reveal differences in gender!
Again, you're probably sick of my sharing my experiences, but I keep seeing parallels btwn us. I finally got my betas done at 16dpo. My number was 140, which I found to be extremely low (my md did not seem to be worried). When I did the math backgward, that number would have put me somewhere btwn 11 and 15 at 10dpo, so right about where you are. In the days between my blood tests I looked for as much information as I could find and I found several sources that suggest that the FRER is sensitive up to 6.5. When I went for my follow up blood test, my numbers had increased as expected and neither my doc nor her nurse are worried. I know that it is hard to have peace of mind until you get your own confirmation, but based on what I experienced, and our super early testing, you're right within normal limits!

[Niva]

Hey Niva,

(please excuse any typos, I'm adjusting to life without am coffee!). Thanks for sharing that article, I read through the article yesterday and I too was stumped by the conversion. However, there was one thing I didn't need a conversion to understand and that was that at this early stage, teh levesl in HCG don't necessarily reveal differences in gender!
Again, you're probably sick of my sharing my experiences, but I keep seeing parallels btwn us. I finally got my betas done at 16dpo. My number was 140, which I found to be extremely low (my md did not seem to be worried). When I did the math backgward, that number would have put me somewhere btwn 11 and 15 at 10dpo, so right about where you are. In the days between my blood tests I looked for as much information as I could find and I found several sources that suggest that the FRER is sensitive up to 6.5. When I went for my follow up blood test, my numbers had increased as expected and neither my doc nor her nurse are worried. I know that it is hard to have peace of mind until you get your own confirmation, but based on what I experienced, and our super early testing, you're right within normal limits!

Cagirl, no, this is exactly where we need to share our personal experiences! It helps so much to hear about others who have similar experiences to our own. :)
That is great to hear about back-calculating your levels to start at around 10-15 on 10dpo. I have a gut feeling that my levels ARE rising appropriately, since I have continuing symptoms (mainly increasing fatigue and decreasing appetite) and the spotting is intermittent, not steady. Just hard not to worry!

Yes, I know the First Response brand tests can test down to 6.5. That was the frer I used on 10dpo and got a really pink line. The ics, though, I thought they weren't that sensitive, and I still got a squinter with them, so I was worried that maybe my levels WERE higher to give me such nice lines -- and then fell. But I've continued testing and the line on the ICs does keep getting darker, so I doubt I need to worry about that. Relief.

I wonder so much if the spotting isn't caused by my blood being slightly thinned by the baby aspirin. It was worst the morning after I took a dose and had taken some DHA, which also thins the blood. I feel like those capillaries in the cervix and uterine lining are just so sensitive, with the lining being as thick as it is for implantation, that any little disturbance (like a bm, tmi) can make them leak a little. Also our hormones that normally control AF can still be present and allow some breakthrough bleeding. My AF would have been due tomorrow, and I usually start spotting about 3-5 days in advance of that. So maybe that's all it is.

Sorry, that was a big ramble! I cut out caffeine recently too, and I have been nothing but a zombie with a headache!

Oh, yes, I also noticed the excellent point that there was no difference in HCG levels between fetal genders at that early stage. One less thing to obsess over! :)

[Niva]

Emily, how is your bfp coming along? I read on your other thread that you are continuing to test every morning like I am, and obsessing about your spotting and cramping like I am... Don't be shy, this is the right place to worry out loud! Or if it isn't, I'm in the wrong place myself, LOL! Are you going to go get a blood test soon to put your mind at ease? My mw didn't mind giving one to me at 11dpo. Except it didn't put my mind at ease and now I won't know until the follow-up results come in on Monday... But I have a feeling everything is really just fine so I'm trying not to worry too much.

[Emily]

Emily, how is your bfp coming along? I read on your other thread that you are continuing to test every morning like I am, and obsessing about your spotting and cramping like I am... Don't be shy, this is the right place to worry out loud! Or if it isn't, I'm in the wrong place myself, LOL! Are you going to go get a blood test soon to put your mind at ease? My mw didn't mind giving one to me at 11dpo. Except it didn't put my mind at ease and now I won't know until the follow-up results come in on Monday... But I have a feeling everything is really just fine so I'm trying not to worry too much.

I got a darker line this afternoon but am still, really worried about spotting and cramping as it has changed to a brighter red:( the only reason I didn't post my concerns here is that I had a chemical in October and I am worried that history is repeating itself. I am sure that you are fine Niva and didn't want to pull you down.

The docs here don't seem to be as mum-friendly elsewhere. When I had bleeding last time I was told to go home and if it stopped everything would be ok and if not the I could try again soon. I agree though a blood draw would help so I might see if I can get one next week.

[Niva]

I got a darker line this afternoon but am still, really worried about spotting and cramping as it has changed to a brighter red:( the only reason I didn't post my concerns here is that I had a chemical in October and I am worried that history is repeating itself. I am sure that you are fine Niva and didn't want to pull you down.

The docs here don't seem to be as mum-friendly elsewhere. When I had bleeding last time I was told to go home and if it stopped everything would be ok and if not the I could try again soon. I agree though a blood draw would help so I might see if I can get one next week.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you, Emily. Like you googled for me, spotting can be normal! Is it constant or intermittent? One of my friends had continuous bleeding for the entire first 16 weeks of pregnancy and her son turned out perfect, so it can still be okay. I sure do hope you don't have another chemical, but if you do, we'll be here to commiserate. They are so, so common and I'm actually kind of surprised I haven't had one yet. I know it makes no rational sense, but it almost feels like it's my "turn," that it is just too good to be true to have two perfect pregnancies in a row. Maybe I'll believe it more on Monday if my hcg levels have actually doubled, but right now I feel just as insecure as you do, Emily. It didn't help that one of my friends who has done IVF told me that 11 mIU/ml hcg is really, really low for 3 days post implantation. But I'm wondering if maybe the days are counted differently for high-tech implantations?

I poas again this morning to see if it was still getting darker... And it wasn't! If anything it was a little lighter than yesterday morning. Could be explained by maybe being more hydrated today than yesterday, so I'm trying not to worry. My spotting is mostly gone but it still occasionally feels tight in my lower abdomen, like mini Braxton-Hicks. Monday's results couldn't come soon enough.

That's too bad the OBs where you live aren't very sensitive to pg ladies' fears. You'd think that should come with the job description. Could you find a woman doctor or a midwife next time you switch doctors (you said you were moving, right)? IME they are often more compassionate.

[Cagirl09]

Just hard not to worry!

I know, for me too! I'm a born worrier.

Also our hormones that normally control AF can still be present and allow some breakthrough bleeding. My AF would have been due tomorrow, and I usually start spotting about 3-5 days in advance of that. So maybe that's all it is.

This makes a lot of sense to me, I have read it is QUITE common.


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[Cagirl09]

I got a darker line this afternoon but am still, really worried about spotting and cramping as it has changed to a brighter red:( the only reason I didn't post my concerns here is that I had a chemical in October and I am worried that history is repeating itself. I am sure that you are fine Niva and didn't want to pull you down.



I agree that this is the place to share if you feel like it will help. I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry you are dealing with this right now. I know how scary and frustrating it is to just have to wait and to not have real answers. I'll be praying for you!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Emily.....for what it is worth, I bleed/spotted with both boys...14w with DS1, 10w with DS2....and it was red. As in cherry, strawberry, grape tomato red....I pray that your little pink bean is just burrowing in!

[Emily]

Thanks Cagirl and ladybugs you ladies are great. Niva I hope you hear good news on Monday - It would make sense that IVF was slightly different.

Cramping has got less but spotting is brighter red (less of it though) and had a temp dip.

I think I just need to stop overanalysing as there is nothing I can do except take my vitamins and eat healthily. Have decided that I will assume everything is OK unless AF shows. worrying has got me nowhere so lets see what blind optimism does.

Whilst thinking positively I decided to look up my potential due date - OMG it is the day after DS 2:) that means if all goes well (fingers crossed) all three children will have birthdays within 17 days of each other straight after Christmas. Better start saving!

[bunnywabbit]

Whilst thinking positively I decided to look up my potential due date - OMG it is the day after DS 2:) that means if all goes well (fingers crossed) all three children will have birthdays within 17 days of each other straight after Christmas. Better start saving!

I thought I was the only person who did this - no BFP yet, but when AF comes to visit, I automatically recalculate my due date (will be 22/01 this time round if I'm lucky)! Would love a due date preferably for when the weather is going to be a little less horrible (don't fancy my chances of getting to hospital in any decent time if we're snowed in!), but for right now I just want to get there ASAP - AF is horrific. Getting a faint line on the OPK today - can't wait!

FX for this round everyone... How are you all doing? @Emily, how's all going with you? Did you retest yesterday/today? x

[Emily]

I thought I was the only person who did this - no BFP yet, but when AF comes to visit, I automatically recalculate my due date (will be 22/01 this time round if I'm lucky)! Would love a due date preferably for when the weather is going to be a little less horrible (don't fancy my chances of getting to hospital in any decent time if we're snowed in!), but for right now I just want to get there ASAP - AF is horrific. Getting a faint line on the OPK today - can't wait!

FX for this round everyone... How are you all doing? @Emily, how's all going with you? Did you retest yesterday/today? x

I am good thanks and I am starting to think that this little bean is going to stick. If all goes well next week and there is no more spotting I will post a ticker and say hi on the due date forum. Can't wait to see you there too.

[2lovelyboys]

Emily I am glad that you are starting to feel better, it's such a fragile time! I'm hoping and praying that your little bean sticks!

[Niva]

I am good thanks and I am starting to think that this little bean is going to stick. If all goes well next week and there is no more spotting I will post a ticker and say hi on the due date forum. Can't wait to see you there too.

That's great, Emily!! I will be pulling for you. :) Are you still going to get the blood test next week? I would have no idea anything could be wrong with mine except for the blood test and my still-very-faint poas, so maybe it's not worth stressing you more! Or, maybe it can give you extra reassurance, if the numbers are good. :)

[Niva]

Back on the bandwagon for me. It was a chemical pg. My hcg numbers did double from 11 on Wednesday to 22 on Friday, but my home tests kept getting lighter and lighter. Today (Monday), AF showed. Oh well, on the plus side, the cycle after a m/c (and chemical too, I hope?) sways pink. As long as I didn't cancel that out with my diet cheats, eek!

[Emily]

Back on the bandwagon for me. It was a chemical pg. My hcg numbers did double from 11 on Wednesday to 22 on Friday, but my home tests kept getting lighter and lighter. Today (Monday), AF showed. Oh well, on the plus side, the cycle after a m/c (and chemical too, I hope?) sways pink. As long as I didn't cancel that out with my diet cheats, eek!

Oh sweetie I am so sorry. I know exactly what you are going through. It is crap, sad, frustrating and unfair. Allow yourself to have a cry and don't beat yourself up over diet cheats - if a few days made a difference we would all just do the diet AF to O. Big hugs.

[Niva]

Oh sweetie I am so sorry. I know exactly what you are going through. It is crap, sad, frustrating and unfair. Allow yourself to have a cry and don't beat yourself up over diet cheats - if a few days made a difference we would all just do the diet AF to O. Big hugs.

Thank you, my dear! Fingers tightly crossed that yours sticks -- now I know what it is like to worry about losing a pg.

It's funny but I'm not actually all that emotional about having a m/c. I guess I didn't have enough time to get invested in it; I got my warning signs early on and put up my guard. What I am really NOT happy about is having to go back to trying again after thinking (hoping) that was behind me. Maybe I'm not all torn up over it because I did feel from the beginning that this one wasn't meant to be; somehow I knew it was my turn to have to jump a roadblock. I really, really hope that this chemical's silver lining will be to prep my body for pink for the next cycle! :)

I hope you are right about a few days of diet not making a difference. I know it takes more than a few days of diet to lose condition, but is the same true for gaining condition? I actually took prenatal vitamins!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Niva.....I am sorry. ((hugs)) As for advice, I would ttc this cycle if I were you, 14 weeks with a small blip in the LE diet is good, and a chemical should help a little with swaying pink to boot. I hope that your next BFP is a sticky pink one!

[2lovelyboys]

Niva I'm sorry it didn't work out this month :hugs: like the other ladies said hopefully it will help sway pink for you if your ready to try again this cycle. I wouldn't worry about the diet cheats or the vitamins, it will take more than few days of TLC to undo your hard work, remember its the bigger long term pattern! X

[Cagirl09]

Niva, So sorry for this loss. I agree with the other ladies, this will likely give your pink sway an added boost. Hope the next time its your baby girl!

[Niva]

Thank you all for your sympathies and encouragements. So glad to have found you group of ladies who totally understand what I'm going through and can say the things that really make me feel better.

I can only hope this was a fluke and the next one will be sticky and healthy. And if it isn't pink too, it'll be defying the odds, and I already feel better knowing that.

[Mathilde]

Niva: I'm there with the rest of the girls, bad luck this time, terribly boring to have to go back on the diet, but chances have never been higher for a little girl... I whish you luck! Eyes on the ball now;)
Mathilde

[bunnywabbit]

Aww Niva! I'm so sorry... :sad: Hoping that this works in your favour - as Cagirl09 and Mathilde say, this may help more than anything. Hold on to that hope and good luck. x :hugs:

[bunnywabbit]

I'm... a little confused... POAS on Sunday - no line whatsoever, but decided to DTD. Again on Monday, had a faint line, wasn't clear like the control line. DH wasn't feeling too good anyway so said 'we'll BD tomorrow' (tonight). Checked today and the line looked very slighly less clear than the day before! Have I missed o? :confused: Retesting again tomorrow, but hasn't happened like that before. Going to BD tonight anyway (I hope...), but ARGH! :worry:

[Cagirl09]

Well, it looks like I'm back with the TTC group too. I still was feeling as if something wasn't quite right and went for a follow up blood draw today. Sure enough, my numbers are going down. I'm disappointed for this loss for sure, but I'm trying to believe that this is all part of a bigger plan for me, and my health baby girl is still in my future. I have not started bleeding yet, so I'm hoping that will happen soon so that I can get back on track. I admit that one of the most difficult things about this will be to start back from phase one after nearly three weeks of eating everything in site, I've gained 5 lbs since my bfp. :(

[bunnywabbit]

Oh no! So sorry, Cagirl... Really hoping this is part of the bigger plan for you. :hugs:

[Emily]

So sorry Cagirl that really sucks. Hope you are doing OK.

[Niva]

Well, it looks like I'm back with the TTC group too. I still was feeling as if something wasn't quite right and went for a follow up blood draw today. Sure enough, my numbers are going down. I'm disappointed for this loss for sure, but I'm trying to believe that this is all part of a bigger plan for me, and my health baby girl is still in my future. I have not started bleeding yet, so I'm hoping that will happen soon so that I can get back on track. I admit that one of the most difficult things about this will be to start back from phase one after nearly three weeks of eating everything in site, I've gained 5 lbs since my bfp. :(

Oh, Cagirl, that is rough. I am so sorry you had to get that far along before realizing the numbers weren't going up. What clued you in? Just intuition? For me, it was home tests getting lighter. :( I really hope this was all part of the big pink plan for you, same as I'm hoping for me! I know we'll both get through. Five pounds isn't that much, really, not on the LE diet -- are you going to try the first cycle after?

[Cagirl09]

Thanks so much ladies. It is such a bummer, but I'm doing my best to be optimistic about this.

Niva, I think there were several things that clued me on. One, my sypmtoms were not progressing AT ALL, I had next to no symptoms with the exception of minor bloating and barely sore nipples. I was supposed to be 6 weeks tomorrow, so the closer it got to that, the stranger it felt to feel nothing. Then this morning I woke up and even the sore nipples were gone, and I just knew. I do hope that the 3 weeks off LE doesn't set me back entirely to the beginning as I had 4 good months of it before the BFP, its just so frustrating to lose all that hard work! I am on the fence about TTC first cycle out. It does seem to sway quite a bit, so we might, but I just worry about so much damage to the diet. Maybe we will and we will pull out all the stops, full antihistamine, extra days of FR, extra Aci Jel, etc that way I'll feel like I"m still working toward the goal, but putting forth the best sway possible. I don't know. What about you?

[I Love Ladybugs]

Cagirl...I am so sorry. ((hugs)) As for the weight gained, you will probably lose 2-3 lbs before you O again...so I would try again when you are ready. Lots of hugs!

[2lovelyboys]

Cagirl09 I'm sorry to read your news :( :hugs: I wouldn't worry about the weight gain, you can use it to your advantage and lose it all again before ttc. I know it's all very disheartening but try to remain optimistic and use your obstacles to your advantage!

[2lovelyboys]

10DPO have tested 3x with FRER all BFP. Am feeling very apprehensive as soooooo early! AF due Mon/Tue, will probably feel better once Tuesday has been and gone!

[GeCon]

Niva and Cagirl, I am really sorry to read both your news. :( Hopefully as you said it is all part of a bigger plan for you both.

[GeCon]

Emily and 2LB, congrats to you both and fingers crossed this will be it for you and you both have a happy and healthy 9 months ahead of you.

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon, thank you very much! All seems very surreal at the moment! Not long till you start testing! I will be stalking! :)

[Cagirl09]

Thanks so much for the support everyone! I appreciate it so much. I really do hope that this all will work to my advantage, although I must say I am not thrilled to be back on LE.

2 lovelyboys and Emily, Congratulations to you both on your BFPs! I'm so thrilled for you! Praying you have sticky pink beans getting settled! :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

2lovely.....may those 2 lines be the start of your pink dream!! Great news!!!!

[GeCon]

Good morning ladies,

Well, I couldn't wait another day as my temp was still up today, so tested at 12DPO and got this:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj63/roddypiper_photos/63343a27-9e46-4365-ba04-db367e8980f8_zps86bedf4d.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/roddypiper_photos/media/63343a27-9e46-4365-ba04-db367e8980f8_zps86bedf4d.jpg.html)

Can't quite believe it yet....

[Mathilde]

Gecon: wonderful news! I whish you a happy 9 months and a beautifull girl;) as you know I feel I'm out(not feeling anything really) how are you feeling? I'm 3 or 4 days behind you.
Mathilde

[Emily]

Thanks so much for the support everyone! I appreciate it so much. I really do hope that this all will work to my advantage, although I must say I am not thrilled to be back on LE.

2 lovelyboys and Emily, Congratulations to you both on your BFPs! I'm so thrilled for you! Praying you have sticky pink beans getting settled! :)

Thank you, I am past the one week mark which is when my last chemical happened so am feeling more confident now although I don't think I will relax until I am holding a baby.

I know what you mean, the LE diet sucks when you think you have left it behind. I just focused on the end goal a million times a day and tried to see the chemical as biologically necessary. I will be rooting for you.

[Emily]

Good morning ladies,

Well, I couldn't wait another day as my temp was still up today, so tested at 12DPO and got this:

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj63/roddypiper_photos/63343a27-9e46-4365-ba04-db367e8980f8_zps86bedf4d.jpg (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/roddypiper_photos/media/63343a27-9e46-4365-ba04-db367e8980f8_zps86bedf4d.jpg.html)

Can't quite believe it yet....

Awesome news to start my day with thank you!!!! Congratulations.

[coliny]

Congrats gecon! So very happy for you.

[GeCon]

Thanks, Mathilde. Although you are not feeling anything, don't give up hope yet.

I am feeling fine and apart from some twinges nothing really. The only thing I did notice was increased appetite. I have been so hungry the last two days.

[Sweet mummy]

Congrats all you gorgeous girls with BFPs!!! I'm so happy for you all :)

[GeCon]

Thanks for all your wishes, ladies. Mathilde, Emily, coliny, Sweet Mummy, it really means a lot.

[coliny]

Mathilde - what dpo are you in? When are you testing? Im currently 8 dpo.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Congrats GeCon!!!! That is one sweet bfp......may your bean be sticky, pink and healthy!!!

[Mathilde]

Coliny: i had a positive opk on Friday 26.04.13, so if I o'ed 24 or 36 hrs later we are thinking o on either Saturday or Sunday, meaning today is 9 or 10 dpo.. Have been feeling very slightly crampy but that might as well be af on its way for the weekend..? So you and I are very parallel;)

[2lovelyboys]

GeCon, congratulations that's great news am so happy for you!

[GeCon]

Thanks, Ladybugs and 2LB. Still hasn't really sunk in yet. Just went to look at the test again.

[Emily]

Thanks, Ladybugs and 2LB. Still hasn't really sunk in yet. Just went to look at the test again.

LOL I still have mine in the cupboard! Pretty gross considering I peed on it!

[bunnywabbit]

Fantastic news, GeCon, congrats! Please be a sticky, pink bean! :bighug:

[Cagirl09]

Yay, Gecon! So happy for you! I hope this is your sweet baby girl! Love seeing the pink in your ticker! :)

[GeCon]

Thanks, bunnywabbit and Cagirl. It still feels very surreal.

Emily, I think I will now dispose of it as it is a Digital and they only show the result for 24 hours.

[GeCon]

Ladies, I was wondering. Do you think we should make a thread in the Due Date Buddies like "TTC Pink and Beyond"? I have seen the Dec/Jan/Feb thread, but it moves quite fast and there are a lot of new faces.

I am thinking as we already know each other better, it would be nice to gather in a separate thread. And it would also make it easier for the ladies who are still TTC Pink to join us soon.

Any thoughts?

[Charlee]

GeCon- You are absolutely correct about that DD group... I hardly even chat in there because there are way too many ppl and conversations going on at once! I would gladly join a smaller DD group if there was one :) Maybe I will start a smaller thread for all of us dream members...

[GeCon]

Please do, Charlee. :agree: And be sure to post a link here too.

As I said I think it will also be nice for the other ladies to join us when they are ready.

[Dreamofpink]

GeCon- You are absolutely correct about that DD group... I hardly even chat in there because there are way too many ppl and conversations going on at once! I would gladly join a smaller DD group if there was one :) Maybe I will start a smaller thread for all of us dream members...

Good idea. I only made it a big group as I didn't want to leave any of the long termers like Pumpkin behind who are due in a different month to us now. It is too big though, I totally agree! :)

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[Charlee]

Good idea. I only made it a big group as I didn't want to leave any of the long termers like Pumpkin behind who are due in a different month to us now. It is too big though, I totally agree! :)

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You did great Dream! I don't think the format of the group is the problem... I think we all are used to such small, close knit groups that a bigger group seems impersonal now... we got spoiled in the dream section! :)

[2lovelyboys]

LOL I still have mine in the cupboard! Pretty gross considering I peed on it!

Me too :)

[Emily]

You did great Dream! I don't think the format of the group is the problem... I think we all are used to such small, close knit groups that a bigger group seems impersonal now... we got spoiled in the dream section! :)

Ha ha yes it is so nice to have little chats as though we were in a bar or cafe. The slower thread movement also means it is easier to chat about the same things without having to scroll down too far. If you don't want to create a new thread we could just keep this one going as new people won't join it till April 2014 by which time we will all be pregnant or have a baby (she says putting out good vibes expecting some cosmic action LOL).

Anyway, let us know what the thread will be so I can bookmark it. Thanks.

[GeCon]

If you don't want to create a new thread we could just keep this one going as new people won't join it till April 2014 by which time we will all be pregnant or have a baby (she says putting out good vibes expecting some cosmic action LOL).

We can do that too, Emily. I have just checked and I can actually change the name of the thread if you want to keep this one going.

And I could put all the due dates into the 1st post if you wanted me to.

[Emily]

We can do that too, Emily. I have just checked and I can actually change the name of the thread if you want to keep this one going.

And I could put all the due dates into the 1st post if you wanted me to.

Sounds good! I am happy to keep chatting wherever you think is most suitable and not likely to offend. I like our cozy group but also don't want others to feel unwelcome as the openness of this site is one of its major attractions for me. If the name reflected the fact that the group had started in the past then there's would be unlikely to want to start chatting anyway. Ramble ramble hope the above made sense!

[GeCon]

I totally agree, Emily.

Let me know if you want me to update the thread title and also your due dates if you want me to go ahead.

:)

[Charlee]

I would be happy to stay here! You could change the name to Dreaming Pink DD group or something like that :)

I don't want to seem exclusionary or anything either, it's just that we all know each other and many of us have unique experiences in TTC and pregnancy so it's nice to chat with others who understand our plight! Besides, when I chat in the other DD group, the only people who respond are you ladies anyway! LOL

[Emily]

I totally agree, Emily.

Let me know if you want me to update the thread title and also your due dates if you want me to go ahead.

:)

OMG I just checked my due date again and another site is giving jan 1 !!!!!! This is DS2's birthday. Yikes really hope they don't have to share it and that I am not pushing and screaming instead of lighting his candles!!!

[GeCon]

Thread title changed and due dates added. I have so far only added the due dates that I could see in the tickers. Any others, please let me know in here. :)

[GeCon]

Emily, I have just noticed your due date. :) Were you on time with your previous pregnancies?

[Emily]

Emily, I have just noticed your due date. :) Were you on time with your previous pregnancies?

Bang on with DS1 and a couple of weeks early with DS2 (thank god as he was massive anyway). I think we might just celebrate them a few days apart even if they are on the same day just so everyone has a special time for them. My mum was born on Christmas Day and she is still bitter LOL.

[Pumpkin2011]

Thanks GeCon awesome idea!

Here is today's HPT, well actually I have taken 3 because I have so many of them xD.

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The clearblue digital says 3+ which would mean I am 6 weeks along but I will be only five weeks on Sunday?!

[Niva]

It looks like a strong one, Pumpkin! Congrats!!!!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Add me in..... Dec 10th 2013 Edd

Charlee, I had to laugh!! I post and the only ones who respond are DREAMY!!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

I posted this over there....

back from my MD appt....and guess who has an u/s ordered for May 21! I spotted a little last night and we could not hear the heartbeat, so she requested a u/s for this upcoming week. Our hospital makes this tough, so the earliest I get in is the 21st. Even so, I am excited and happy about this...now just to have a little patience. Thanks for all your sweet thoughts!

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, added your DD.

That comment about only the same ladies responding to posts made me chuckle too.

Pumpkin, lovely test results. I wouldn't worry about the conception indicator as they are based on "standard" 28 day cycles. Also the CB website states that for 3+ weeks, your doctor will date your pregnancy as more than 5 weeks and from your chart it would be almost exactly 5 weeks from your LMP, so all is fine.

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, wow, only 11 days until your scan. I can understand that you are excited about it. Can't wait to see pics of the little ladybug.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladybugs, wow, only 11 days until your scan. I can understand that you are excited about it. Can't wait to see pics of the little ladybug.

Our early scans here rarely get a picture to keep....I can wish though!!! I am just hoping that I can watch the scan....or that they will let me know if things are on target as I have to wait until the 30th for a follow-up appt with my MD.

I like this new little group....I will be getting 2lovely to add in her name and Edd!!!

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, you should be 11 weeks by then, right? Hopefully they will be able to date the pregnancy for you and give you some peace of mind until your next appointment.

I think 2lovely may be one day ahead of me, but I won't add her until she's confirmed.

[I Love Ladybugs]

GeCon....I am quite excited about the u/s, I hope that the tech is nice enough to let me watch the screen....and see if baby is on target!!

[Pumpkin2011]

GeCon....I am quite excited about the u/s, I hope that the tech is nice enough to let me watch the screen....and see if baby is on target!!

Ladybug I am going to film all my scans this time around to be able to look at my bean whenever I want to :). How many scans do you guys get? In Germany we have 3 scans that are covered by the insurance but some gyns are so nice to give you more. I was thinking of getting a flatrate and have a scan every 4 weeks :-/.

[Emily]

GeCon....I am quite excited about the u/s, I hope that the tech is nice enough to let me watch the screen....and see if baby is on target!!

Yes fingers crossed for a nice tech - if I were you I would be unashamedly gushy about how fabulous it would be to get a peek. Good luck.

[Charlee]

I love this new DD/TTC group!! Thanks GeCon :)

[Charlee]

GeCon....I am quite excited about the u/s, I hope that the tech is nice enough to let me watch the screen....and see if baby is on target!!

So glad you have a scan scheduled! I'm excited for you :)

[Charlee]

Ladybug I am going to film all my scans this time around to be able to look at my bean whenever I want to :). How many scans do you guys get? In Germany we have 3 scans that are covered by the insurance but some gyns are so nice to give you more. I was thinking of getting a flatrate and have a scan every 4 weeks :-/.

Filming the scans is a great idea... I had never thought about doing that but I might try it the next time I have one! :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Pumpkin....I would love to film my scan and I do believe that for the 20 week one...I will do just that! They (the local clinics and hospitals all have a policy of not allowing the patient to see the screen in the early (so before 20 weeks) u/s.

Emily...I may just have to turn on the tears...or get scary gushy!!!

Charlee...I am counting down the days....I remember seeing DS1 at 10 weeks when I went to emerg. due to heavy bleeding and how cute he was waving at me!!

So what are the exciting plans for the weekend? We are almost out the door...and going to a "kids' fair"...last year DS1 won himself a bike!!

[Pumpkin2011]

Ladybug I wish you guys lots of fun at the kids fair.

Is anyone going to be nub guessing? I don't think people in Germany have heard of it so what would I need to ask for? A profile pic of the full body?

[3boys]

The hospital where I live doesn't let you film ultrasound scans! Which completely sucks as I think that is a great idea too (also means you can replay and replay looking for nubs lol) :)

[Charlee]

Happy Birthday Pumpkin!

[Pumpkin2011]

Thanks once again hon!!

[Charlee]

Ladybug I wish you guys lots of fun at the kids fair.

Is anyone going to be nub guessing? I don't think people in Germany have heard of it so what would I need to ask for? A profile pic of the full body?

Yes try to get a full body shot with legs and all... a profile of the full body will give you a good chance of seeing the nub and the nub angle in relation to the spine... that's how a proper nub guess is formulated from what I've gathered!

[GeCon]

Good idea about filming the scans, ladies. Although I am not sure if our doctor will allow it.

Pumpkin, I was wondering about the nub shot too. Bit of a difficult one, isn't it? Please let me know how you get on and if they looked at you as if you are from another planet. :)

And Happy Birthday, Pumpkin. Hope you are having a lovely day.

[GeCon]

3boys, do you want me to add you to the 1st post? If so, please let me know your due date.

[bunnywabbit]

Happy birthday, Pumpkin and congrats!

Was going to test on Monday, but AF beat me to it (so have recalculated my 'due date' again). Oh well, should get another chance at the end of the moment.

How are we all?

[GeCon]

bunnywabbit, sorry to hear AF got you, hopefully this coming cycle will be the one for you.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Pumpkin...have a wonderful birthday!! Having a bfp so close to your birthday is truely amazing...and I pray that this bean is sticky, healthy and pink for you!!!

Bunnywabbit...hoping that the next cycle is the one!!!!

[Pumpkin2011]

Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes :bighug:.

How is everyone today?

I was shopping yesterday and found a beautiful white blanket with flowers on it and got it as a birthday gift for myself secretly hoping one day I will be able to use it for my daughter.

It's crazy how I see a little girl in my arms whenever I think of this little bean but somehow it just doesn't come to my mind it could be a boy. That's how it was with my son. From the day I found out I am pregnant a started thinking of boy names and buying boy stuff and when I got asked at the gender scan if I would like to find out I said I already know :). Hope this is a good sign.

[3boys]

3boys, do you want me to add you to the 1st post? If so, please let me know your due date.

If that is ok then yes please :) I'm due on the 29th December. I don't want to intrude on your thread though! Except for the first cycle after my miscarriage where I was posting I had a little break from TTC on gender dreaming. My approach to swaying this time was to try and completely forget that I was TTC at all lol. Xx

[3boys]

Thank you everyone for the birthday wishes :bighug:.

How is everyone today?

I was shopping yesterday and found a beautiful white blanket with flowers on it and got it as a birthday gift for myself secretly hoping one day I will be able to use it for my daughter.

It's crazy how I see a little girl in my arms whenever I think of this little bean but somehow it just doesn't come to my mind it could be a boy. That's how it was with my son. From the day I found out I am pregnant a started thinking of boy names and buying boy stuff and when I got asked at the gender scan if I would like to find out I said I already know :). Hope this is a good sign.

Happy birthday for yesterday Pumpkin. Sorry I am a bit late, I didn't realise xx

I'm glad that you feel in your heart that this little bundle is you DD. lets hope that your intuition is right and that cute little blanket will be wrapped around your baby girl in 8 months time :). What week were you planing on a gender scan?

[GeCon]

3boys, I have added your due date to the first post. And you are not intruding at all, everyone who wants to join is welcome: it doesn't matter what your approach to TTC was, our aim is all the same. :XX:

Pumpkin, the blanket sounds lovely. Let's see a pic. Hopefully your intuition will be right again.

[Pumpkin2011]

GeCon it's nothing special but I somehow really like it:

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How are you feeling hon? Do you have an appointment for your first scan yet?

[GeCon]

It's beautiful, Pumpkin. A bit like the sleepsuits in my avatar.

I am fine, thank you. I haven't made an appointment yet, the plan is to ring the doctor tomorrow.

[Pumpkin2011]

It's beautiful, Pumpkin. A bit like the sleepsuits in my avatar.


That´s exactly what i thought xD.

When are you planning to go? I bet they will tell you to come within the next couple days, that´s how it´s always been with me but this time I insisted in having the scan later.

[GeCon]

When are you planning to go? I bet they will tell you to come within the next couple days, that´s how it´s always been with me but this time I insisted in having the scan later.

I have no idea how it works here. I will see what they say to me on the phone tomorrow and keep you all posted.

With my 1st pregnancy (in the UK), I did not get to see the midwife for my booking-in appointment until 8 weeks.

[GeCon]

Ladies who do/did not have 28 day cycles: Did your doctors take any notice of your actual ovulation date if you knew it or did they always go with your LMP?

The reason I am asking is that with my last pregnancy the midwife only went with my LMP although I told her that I had very long cycles and I knew I only ovulated on CD46. That then meant the due date was incorrectly dated until the 1st scan (which I had 4 weeks too early due to the dating).

So I am wondering if since I know my ovulation date I should adjust my LMP to reflect my ovulation based due date or if I should tell them my real LMP and ovulation date, but risk that it gets incorrectly dated again.

[lollylegs]

Ladies who do/did not have 28 day cycles: Did your doctors take any notice of your actual ovulation date if you knew it or did they always go with your LMP?

The reason I am asking is that with my last pregnancy the midwife only went with my LMP although I told her that I had very long cycles and I knew I only ovulated on CD46. That then meant the due date was incorrectly dated until the 1st scan (which I had 4 weeks too early due to the dating).

So I am wondering if since I know my ovulation date I should adjust my LMP to reflect my ovulation based due date or if I should tell them my real LMP and ovulation date, but risk that it gets incorrectly dated again.

The only person who ever listened to me was my independent midwife 2nd time around - and we had a expected timeframe (spanning 3 calculated dates).
All hospital MW and Drs used the wheel. I adjusted period date (or said I wasn't sure) to buy extra time - otherwise such pressure at the pointy end of pregnancy. And we had issues when DS1 wasn't the "expected" size at individual scans.
i say if you know when you ovulated say that is the date. And if they don't believe you, then change the date of LMP.

[3boys]

Ladies who do/did not have 28 day cycles: Did your doctors take any notice of your actual ovulation date if you knew it or did they always go with your LMP?

The reason I am asking is that with my last pregnancy the midwife only went with my LMP although I told her that I had very long cycles and I knew I only ovulated on CD46. That then meant the due date was incorrectly dated until the 1st scan (which I had 4 weeks too early due to the dating).

So I am wondering if since I know my ovulation date I should adjust my LMP to reflect my ovulation based due date or if I should tell them my real LMP and ovulation date, but risk that it gets incorrectly dated again.

This happened with DS1 and no one would listen to me so from then on I always adjusted the supposed LMP date without them knowing. I think when you know exactly when you ovulated it is much more accurate than an LMP date... They just don't trust us to know (don't they realise TTC is a military operation for us girls) ;) lol.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladies who do/did not have 28 day cycles: Did your doctors take any notice of your actual ovulation date if you knew it or did they always go with your LMP?

The reason I am asking is that with my last pregnancy the midwife only went with my LMP although I told her that I had very long cycles and I knew I only ovulated on CD46. That then meant the due date was incorrectly dated until the 1st scan (which I had 4 weeks too early due to the dating).

So I am wondering if since I know my ovulation date I should adjust my LMP to reflect my ovulation based due date or if I should tell them my real LMP and ovulation date, but risk that it gets incorrectly dated again.

I am with the majority here in terms of adjusting LMP based on O, but if you don't, then you will get more u/s!! Lol, I tried telling my MD and the nurse on which day I O'd with DS2, but they still based it on LMP. The 6 weeks scan he measured behind, but by week 10 was on course...too bad the clinic policy would not allow any viewing of early u/s by patients.

Pumpkin...that is one sweet girly-girly blanket!! I feel so good about your sway.

3boys...I hope that your screen name becomes 3boys+1girl in about 33 weeks time!!!

I love it that we are all waiting and wanting pink!!!!! If I am not wrong, we are all waiting for our first daughter and the chance to experience both genders!!

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, I was sent 4 weeks early for our 1st scan due to them dating me on LMP not on ovulation. Upon the scan they then dated the pregnancy and it turned out that if the little one had measured one day less, they would have sent us for another one 4 weeks later, but since he measured one day older, we would have had to wait for the 20 week scan. So we went for a private one at 12 weeks instead.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Gecon...what access do you have this time around with private scans?

With DS2, I was sent as I was bleeding and the betas were not so convincing as with DS1.....

That is crazy about the day one way or the other....good thing that you had access to private scans. I wish that we had one closer. Our main scan time is around 19 weeks.....and if I am lucky enough, it will be ordered at my next appt. The wait is 4+ weeks locally and about 4 weeks in the big city 1 hour away... I want to be able to book my appt for the slower week at work in July. We will have to wait and see about my scan locally....and how nice they are. :think:

[GeCon]

Good morning ladies,

So I rang my doctor and made an appointment for tonight. Apparently they will do a scan and blood test etc.

Exciting! Feels a lot more real now that I have the appointment booked.

I don't suppose there is much point in filming tonight's scan, is there? With it being so early, I think it is just about making sure the little one is where it should be. Still I think OH will want to come.

Ladybugs, I have no idea on scans at the moment. I hope to find out more tonight and keep you all posted.

Happy Monday all.

[Emily]

The hospital where I live doesn't let you film ultrasound scans! Which completely sucks as I think that is a great idea too (also means you can replay and replay looking for nubs lol) :)

I may be a bit devious, but could you go all James Bond and hide a camera in your bag in line with the screen? Or could DH subtly film with his camera whist pretending to deal with an important text from work?

[Emily]

I have no idea how it works here. I will see what they say to me on the phone tomorrow and keep you all posted.

With my 1st pregnancy (in the UK), I did not get to see the midwife for my booking-in appointment until 8 weeks.

I didn't go till week 10 last time in Spain but am thinking I might try to get an app soon and fib a bit about my dates otherwise I risk not being able to fit in a 12 week scan so I would have to wait till I had found a doc etc in Asia which is much later than I want to wait!! Also I have no idea about facilities etc there.

Pumpkin I will totally be nubsessing if I manage to get a scan here.

Yes I am waiting and hoping for my first pinkie too. Really hope that it is Emily in there otherwise I'll have to change my user name LOL.

[I Love Ladybugs]

I may be a bit devious, but could you go all James Bond and hide a camera in your bag in line with the screen? Or could DH subtly film with his camera whist pretending to deal with an important text from work?

Ms. Emily Bond....I just need you joining me in my scan!!!! That would be awesome.....and so much easier than trying to pull that off myself!!!

[GeCon]

Emily, your post made me wonder where are we all from (although in your case when/why/how long you will be going to Asia). I know some of us have the location in their avatar, but not everyone has.

I am German and having lived in the UK for almost 10 years, I have returned to Germany last year with my little family.

[Charlee]

Emily you are too funny!!! haha I mean, really, what are they going to do? Accuse you of filming the scan and kick dh out? No way! LOL I think it's a brilliant idea :)

So are you ladies experiencing morning sickness? I never really did with the boys, but my last pregnancy was pretty bad and this one is TERRIBLE! I am miserable ALL DAY LONG, no matter if I eat or not... sometimes eating makes it subside, sometimes it makes it worse! There is no relief from this nonsense... ugh... and now I'm terrified that it will last my entire pregnancy. Anyway, I'm just wondering if I'm the only one, or if others are going through this too... I know Ladybug is unfortunate to be suffering something similiar :( Poor us! LOL

I just have to say that I LOVE this DD group now :)

[Charlee]

Also, I finally told my family (parents and in laws) that I'm expecting ... they were much more receptive than I imagined! Of course their first reply was "Oh so you are going for a girl, aren't you?" haha Well, the gender comments have commenced. My dad was the only one who said he doesn't care, a healthy baby is all that matters. My mother is already obsessing and urging me to shop for pink frilly things! haha No pressure, nah... LOL

[Dreamofpink]

Gecon - Looking forward to your update on your appt tonight! I always ov late too and even though the midwife could've accessed my files for my 28 day prog test to show that I'd ov'd late, she still insisted on using my lmp. I couldn't adjust it due to it all being on file through taking Clomid etc. I know I'll have my date adjusted and the one in my ticker is what I was given by putting in my ov date, so I think it's as accurate as can be until go for my scan.

Charlee & Ladybugs, I really sympathise with your m/s. I haven't been sick at all but the nausea can be so debilitating, I can only imagine how awful a time you're having. :hugs: My symptoms are coming and going a bit now. The nausea is less frequent but more intense when I do get it. I usually get a horrid taste in my mouth too that nothing shifts. Most of today my boobs have felt like pre-pregnant ones which worried me so I rang the midwife. She said not to worry at all as long as my other symptoms are still there. Well, I felt absolutely done in all day with nausea too this afternoon. I'm just so terrified of losing the baby as it's taken so long to get to this point. Just recently the tiredness and nausea has lifted and hey presto! my boobs are tender again! It's funny how I only worry when my boobs feel pain-free as that's been a constant since bfp, but the nausea and tiredness comes and goes. I have such a huge bump it's embarrassing. Even DH is asking if I got my dates wrong. I'm not in maternity clothes yet though as I lost so much weight through LE. Is anyone else the same?

[Dreamofpink]

Charlee I'm so glad that your family were receptive. Do your boys know yet?
I thought mine would tell everyone but they haven't. I don't think I'll believe it until I see a healthy baby at my scan in a fortnight, so telling people feels like I'm tempting fate somehow.

[GeCon]

Evening ladies,

Finally back from the doctor, had some tea and put the wee man to bed.

Right, looks like little beanie is nicely located where it should be and measures at 4+2, so close enough to my calculation.

Very happy to have seen little beanie, makes it all feel so much more real.

Back for my next appointment on the 27th.

[Emily]

GeCon, so good to hear that things went well at the scan. I am British but move around every 2-4 years because of my husbands job as a British spy/ boring penpusher LOL. We are moving in july and will be there for 3 or 4 years. I would love to come back to Spain then but dont think it will be possible unless the global economy improves. I am set to give birth in my third continent and 5th language (they used 3 with DS1 progressing to the one i knew least as things got worse) which should be pretty terrifying as I cannot even say hello properly. Ow X¥@*# is probably quite universal though.

Charlee I am getting morning sickness when I haven't eaten but it seems to get better when I sip water so it is a toss up between nausea and going to the loo the whole time. I got it with both DSs so don't expect it to let up anytime soon. On the upside my LE depleted boobs are getting bigger!

Dreamof pink - I have a bump already and I am not even 7 weeks yet. I don't think anyone will notice yet though as I went a bit concave so now look normal again. Apart from my mum and dad who asked outright when I wasn't drinking, we haven't told anyone. I am a bit worried it will be too much for my boys as we are telling them that they are leaving everything they know and going somewhere completely new. I don't want to follow that up with more massive news. I might just wait till they ask what is happening to my tummy.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Emily...that is clever all around...I would be using the time in your favour as to get a scan before you leave. My best IRL was teaching ESL in Korea when they started her family and she did have multiple scans where they lived!! It was different she said when she go back to Canada. Emily is a sweet name for the little girl growing within you!!!

GeCon....I answered your question in my answer to Emily....Canadian born and bred. Our medical system sometimes works against me and occasionally for me!! WTG on beanie neslting right on in!!!

Charlee...you are right for sure! M/s is still kicking me over here, but once this week is over and out, I am hoping for both a reduction in m/s and work hours...a girl can dream!! But unlike you, eating seems to make mine better, but that is not the best outcome in terms of weight and weight gain for me. I need to figure out better ways to keep the m/s at bay, because dry heaves hurt too! That is great that your family is excited!!! Even if there is "no" pressure!!

Dreamofpink....so glad to hear from you....you too have that nasty taste in the throat...ew is all I can say. I hope that it passes soon for both you and I..I really don't recall it in either of the boys' pregnancies. I wish that my clothes were fitting nicer, my last m/c, lack of running and weight gain/flucuations last fall made the LE diet only good for getting back to my happier adult weight, nothing less...so, I have snuck a tighter fitting pair of mat jeans into my rotation already!! My preconception weight this time was 35 lbs lighter than with DS1 and 45lbs lighter than with DS2...no clothes kept from that time. What maternity clothes are you going to by for the skinniest you????????

[Dreamofpink]

I'm being such a worrywart today and feeling yuck as I have a horrid yeast infection. Going to see doc later. Just can't help worrying that bub is okay, don't think it helps that I'm feeling stressed from us just accepting an offer on our house too. It all gets a bit much at times :( sorry for being a moaning minnie.

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[GeCon]

Don't worry about it, Dreamofpink. That's what we are here for. To share the good and not so good things.

Sorry to hear you are not feeling great, but hopefully the doc will be able to help. Exciting news on the offer. I take it you have already got a new place? When are you looking at moving?

[GeCon]

Gecon...what access do you have this time around with private scans?

As promised a little update on the scan situation: So we get 3 scans as part of our routine checks: around 10, around 20 and around 30 weeks. We can have additional scans at €25 each, should we desire to do so.

In the UK, we had 2 routine ones at 12 and 20. We also had one private one at 12 weeks as they sent us 4 weeks early to the 12 week one. So overall we had 3 scans with our 1st pregnancy.

We have therefore decided that we will probably just go with the standard 3 here plus one more at 16 weeks.

[Dreamofpink]

Don't worry about it, Dreamofpink. That's what we are here for. To share the good and not so good things.

Sorry to hear you are not feeling great, but hopefully the doc will be able to help. Exciting news on the offer. I take it you have already got a new place? When are you looking at moving?

Thanks GeCon, your kind words helped! Seen the doc and have a pessary now for thrush - urgh. Had a near meltdown on phone to midwife, the anxiety got the better of me. I'm so scared that everything's going okay, the pg symptoms starting to come & go have really unsettled me. Only 2 weeks until my nt scan, feels like a lifetime away. The stress of buying & selling is getting to me too. We'll be putting an offer on the house we like tomorrow.
It sounds wonderful having 3 scans and I think they're perfectly placed apart too. As much as I love the NHS it's a long wait until 12 weeks! Are you bothered about a nub shot seeing as you're scan is quite early on? I'm more than happy to wait until 20 weeks, I just want see that the baby is okay. That really is all I care about at the mo :(

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[Dreamofpink]

Oh and if all goes to plan re house we'll be moving when I'm around 20 weeks. Only a half hour drive to the seaside town that we're hoping to move to. Better than moving from north of Scotland to north of England when I was 30 weeks pg with ds2!

Mind you, both moves pale into insignificance when I heard what you're about to do Emily!! You're one brave lady moving countries like that especially when pg. Does Dh's work help you with the move?

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[Emily]

Oh and if all goes to plan re house we'll be moving when I'm around 20 weeks. Only a half hour drive to the seaside town that we're hoping to move to. Better than moving from north of Scotland to north of England when I was 30 weeks pg with ds2!

Mind you, both moves pale into insignificance when I heard what you're about to do Emily!! You're one brave lady moving countries like that especially when pg. Does Dh's work help you with the move?

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Yes. His company are brilliant and help a lot and pay for everything. I am a bit concerned about giving birth over there as I don't know what facilities there are there yet and I had a crappy birth in Africa with DS1.

You are brave too - i think it must be more stressful when it is your house. we just rent everywhere we go. Good luck with your offer tomorrow.

[GeCon]

Dreamofpink, I think we will have another scan next time we are going just to confirm the pregnancy again and then I think we will wait until 12 weeks as I think the nub can be seen best at 12 weeks. Is that right?

So are you Scottish, Dreamofpink? My husband is Scottish. :)

I am also a bit unsure about giving birth here, obviously on a completely different scale to you, Emily, but unsure nonetheless. I went through labour with our son on G&A only and I don't think G&A is very commonly used in Germany any more, which makes me a bit nervous.

[Dreamofpink]

Nope I'm English & dh is N. Irish. We moved to Scotland for work after we left uni. Glad you're getting a 12 week scan too. The anxiety has been eating me up & getting too much at times. The next 2 weeks before I have my scan feels like the longest ever. I just wish I had a doppler so I could at least hear the heartbeat!

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[Emily]

Dreamofpink, I think we will have another scan next time we are going just to confirm the pregnancy again and then I think we will wait until 12 weeks as I think the nub can be seen best at 12 weeks. Is that right?

So are you Scottish, Dreamofpink? My husband is Scottish. :)

I am also a bit unsure about giving birth here, obviously on a completely different scale to you, Emily, but unsure nonetheless. I went through labour with our son on G&A only and I don't think G&A is very commonly used in Germany any more, which makes me a bit nervous.

Gas and air isn't very popular outside of the UK as far as I can work out. I have only heard of it being used in one private clinic in the whole of Spain. I am an epidural fan though so it didn't bother me too much. I am such a wimp:)

[GeCon]

Gas and air isn't very popular outside of the UK as far as I can work out. I have only heard of it being used in one private clinic in the whole of Spain. I am an epidural fan though so it didn't bother me too much. I am such a wimp:)

Not a wimp at all, Emily. I wanted an epidural too, but had to be transferred to a hospital for it. By the time I got there it was too late as I was fully dilated.

[3boys]

Not a wimp at all, Emily. I wanted an epidural too, but had to be transferred to a hospital for it. By the time I got there it was too late as I was fully dilated.

With DS3 I begged for an epi but they kept saying no no, I was too far into it. After he was born my placenta didn't come away in tact so they had to give me a spinal block to get it out!! I wasn't impressed I suffered three days of labour being able to feel everything and then straight after they stopped the feeling to my legs! Typical

[Emily]

3 boys and GeCon ow!!! Perhaps we should start a horrendous birth stories thread!!!!

I was traumatised after DS1 was born and had horror movie style flashbacks for weeks. At one point I had 5 people including the paediatrician doing cardiac style compressions on my uterus. My ribs were so bruised I couldn't wear a maternity bra for three weeks afterwards. DS1 had ripped neck muscles from the botched and over zealous ventouse and needed a cranial helmet to correct the resulting skull deformation. Thought I would bring a bit of joy to our thread!!!

In Spain they are amazing as long as you want to go the hospital route. I still got my epidural even though I was over 8cm at the time - their logic was that it might take effect in time and if not at least it would help with the after pains. Love them!!

[GeCon]

Wow, Emily. What a truly terrifying experience for you all. I am not surprised you had flashbacks the weeks following the birth.

Amazingly, even without the epidural I wanted, I had quite a lovely birth. Of course painful, in fact painful enough to make me brick it again just thinking about it, but as nice a labour as I could have wished for. My waters broke at 8.45am and our little sunshine was born at 5.45pm.

Here's hoping that we all get straight-forward and as little painful births as possible.

[GeCon]

3boys, I am not surprised you were not impressed. But as you said it is just typical to happen that way.

Dreamofpink, have you looked into hiring a doppler? You can hire them on a weekly basis.

[2lovelyboys]

Hello ladies, I haven't posted in this thread for ages!

GeCon thanks for updating it. I have just read through the last part of the thread, lovely to see so many familiar names posting in the same place! Was getting confusing chasing people around different threads! You were right my EDD is 15th Jan 2014 :)

I read someone mention that you can bookmark a thread, how do you do that? Takes me ages to find threads every time I log on, complete idiot!

I am desperate for my 12 week scan, we only get the 12 and 20 week 2D scans :( With DS1&2 we had a private 3/4D scan at 30 weeks. I will do the same this time but am also contemplating a gender scan at 16 weeks, don't think I will be able to wait the additional four weeks to find out!

I had an epidural with DS1, was great! Delivery ended as an emergency csection tho boooooo! DS2 was a successful VBAC and I miraculously survived on just gas and air, was pretty impressed by it, couldn't pry it from my fingers!

[GeCon]

2LB, lovely to finally see you on here. I have added your due date to the 1st post.

I originally found it quite difficult to keep track of threads on here too, but have now found an easy way.

You can subscribe to a thread by clicking "Thread Tools" at the top of the thread and then it will show you all your subscribed threads in "Quick Links" --> "Subscribed Threads" or here:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/subscription.php

I think you automatically subscribe to a thread when you reply to it. In the Subscribed Threads you will always see when there is a response to one of the threads as the title is bold.

Hope this helps.

[2lovelyboys]

Thank you GeCon, I'm a nightmare at this stuff!

How is every one feeling?

I'm having one of those days! Both boys poorly, both up far to early this morning, been pouring with rain all day so they are ill, bored and tired! Roll on bed time! That sounds awful and I always feel guilty for feeling like this when they are in bed but arrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

[Charlee]

Hello ladies :)

So I have a question for all of you who have had drug free births (without pain medication)... would you all recommend it? Was it absolutely terrible or does your body mask the pain for you somehow?

I'm asking because I'm thinking about going natural this time as I've never had a natural birth... because of my history they induce me at 38 weeks and I've always gotten the epidural. I want to experience a natural birth at least once though! I don't know if it will be more painful since they will induce me again this time and use pitocin to get contractions going. I've heard this is more painful but of course don't know for sure since I've never experienced natural labor...

Should I try it? Did you all enjoy your natural birth experience? Do tell!

[Charlee]

2LB- don't feel guilty for wanting to put them to bed on days like that!! The way I see it, when they are as miserable as you are there is no reason to prolong the madness... We've been stuck inside because of the heat for a few days and I felt the exact same way. My boys have destroyed my house because of boredom! Haha

[I Love Ladybugs]

Charlee....I will humour you with the good stories then!! My DS1 was the birth story that I would like to repeat in many ways, no meds, no interventions, and easy healing afterwards. Active labour started around 3:30 pm, he was born at 7:27 pm....had been have contractions since about 7:30 am. I won't lie and say it did not hurt, but the pushing was the best. I so wanted DS2 to arrive in the same fashion and up until 10 centimeters dilated it was....then because he was suddenly footling breech, I got to experience an epidural and urgent C-section to get him out...although I have to say, it was a very calm surgery and nicely done. My MD was present for both boys births, so I can hope for the same again!!! My plan is VBAC all the way baby!!!

[Niva]

Charlee, that's great that you're considering natural, but no, your body does not mask the pain somehow. :) Wish it did! I took a natural birth class before DS was born (I highly recommend taking a class) and we learned ways to deal with the pain and not focus on it, but it's still there. In a smooth med-free birth you can usually get by, especially if you've taken a class, because the contractions are not constant -- you get a break between contractions. And then the end is wonderful. :) But if you have back labor, it's the pits and you feel like your whole body is being slammed in a car door and the door never opens!

Med-free with pitocin is another matter, and not one I would suggest trying out. I did try to have DS med-free, but after a certain point he wasn't progressing and I was given pitocin. After that, the game was over. If I hadn't had back labor maybe -maybe- I could have made it through despite the pitocin, but with the pitocin AND back labor the pain was way too much to bear and I got an epidural.

I might try natural birth again with pg#2 when it happens, but I won't be dead set on no meds if I need pitocin and/or have back labor. The pain of back labor plus pitocin was one I won't soon forget!

[2lovelyboys]

Charlee, I LOVED my natural delivery, certainly was painful but it is one experience I hope to repeat with this pregnancy!

With DS1 I was induced and he was back to back, apparently both induction and back to back babies are more painful, it certainly was painful, I got to 8cm completely medication free (including gas and air) things then started to go wrong I ended up with an epidural (great stuff) and an emergency csection :(
With DS2 I was determined to have a successful VBAC I also wanted to have my wits about me and remember his delivery clearly. I started the gas and air at 5cm, felt in control the whole time and have fond memories of his birth!

If you want to try med free then I would say go for it as you can always introduce meds if it becomes unbearable, just be realistic! Know what you want for and from your delivery and aim for it, if plans change don't be hard on yourself! Remember its your day!!!

[GeCon]

Charlee, good on your for considering a natural birth.

As I said earlier I do think that I had a lovely birth and I would be delighted to have another one like it. From hearing other people's birth experiences I appreciate just how lucky I was with my birthing experience. I went into it with an open mind, but being quite sure that I would go for an epidural for the pain. But it looks like it wasn't meant to be and I went without anything but G&A. Yes, it was painful, but I would be happy to do it again like this. Of course, everyone's situation is different and I think it is also important to go with the flow and not beat yourself up about it if things don't go the way you were hoping for.

[GeCon]

Niva, nice to see you on here. :)

How are things with you?

[Niva]

Hi GeCon! I'm still lurking around. :) It's so nice to be able to stick with this group instead of having to move on to a new ttc month thread, since this was the lucky bfp month for so many of us. Such a good idea to make it open to those still ttc as well as you gals with a pg ticker. ;)

I'm currently waiting for O to return after my chemical... it's taking its good old time, too. I would have been very optimistic about this month's chances of a bfp, but I've decided to do a really strict bd attempt with all the things that reduce chances while swaying harder. I've been swimming in hormone soup since the chemical ended, and I'm completely at a loss as to whether the extra stress has been swaying pink or blue. I've finally decided to go ahead and try anyway, but to tighten up my sway and have a really strict bd attempt just in case I need to compensate for extra T production. But I feel really in limbo right now since I'm well aware I could be passing up a super sway month if my hormonal anxiety has been making pink stress instead -- there's just no way to know! It totally sucks not knowing because it somehow feels like this month is "the" month after last month's false start and I could probably get another bfp quickly, but then I'd kick myself if I had been swaying blue by accident. And all this fretting about having too much blue stress has of course fueled the stress into a kind of feedback loop, so no chances of mellowing out in time, haha. I definitely have a super hormonal sway going on, but I can't decide whether to jump at the chance or avoid a bfp like the plague, so I'm taking the middle ground.

Anyway, that's my situation, sorry for dumping on the party! I'll be very glad when this month is over and next month can be like any other where ttc is again in the background of normal life and my cortisol levels don't surge every time I think about it. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I had babies 2,3, and 5 drug free. I could have done it with DS 1, but no one ever told me that the contrax. get to a certain point and pretty much stay there, I thought they'd get worse and worse and worse, but with my drug free births the pain just got bad and stayed that way. It was a disaster because epidurals don't work on me until I'm so drugged I can't even push, and it took me FOREVER to push him out.

DS 2 was at home with a midwife and it was GREAT. I used the birththing ball a lot with him and they used a lot of massage and it was all very gentle.

DS 3 was natural in the hospital, back labor and it was my most painful birth (that child does everything the hard way.) Luckily it was FAST.

With DS 4 my water broke and then I didn't go into labor and wasn't dilating, so they insisted on the Pit. That was rough. I had to lay in the bed, and for some reason with that pg I went almost totally deaf, and I also had broken my glasses and so I couldn't hear the TV or see it, so I had to lay there and be in pain the whole time (I concur that Pitocin is very hard to have natural, even for an experienced person)and I still wasn't dilating at all, so I caved and had the epidural. It still didn't work (I'm apparently immune to epidurals) but at least I had something else to think about the whole time LOL. Hard recovery too and very scary at times because I kept almost passing out at inopportune times and couldn't be alone for like 6 months afterwards.

DD was the easiest labor altho it took them FOREVER to get set up for me to push so that part wasn't fun. I was really ok in control the entire time except for the very last part. Easiest recovery.

So my point is, really, my epidural births were harder than my natural ones, the epidural doesn't make it a cakewalk, it's a hard road no matter how you slice it.

The main thing that was different about the 3 natural births were the level of support I had. DS 1, they were just about pressuring me to have the epidural and were kind of annoyed that I didn't want one. With DS 4, it was like the nurses were all busy doing other stuff and I really didn't have anyone other than DH and he was in a shitty mood that day. With my natural births, the midwives and nurses were very attentive and my husband was helpful too, so whenever things got hard I had the support - my main advice would be someone with you who will be supportive the whole time. You can TOTALLY do it!!!

[Sunflower3]

My ds 3 was a natural childbirth but by no means was done on purpose. I was Induced with ds 1 and ds 2 so I had no idea I was in labor with ds 3. I left for the hospital after I lost my mucus plug and contractions were 5 minutes apart. When I got to the hospital I was 6 cm 100% effaced my water broke and it was too late for drugs. Piece of cake! Lol. I delivered him within 1 hour if being there and I think 2 pushes. Really!! I was walking around almost immediately afterwards. The only hard part was I tore and felt every stitch. Ouch!

[Niva]

Cagirl, we are cycle buddies! I am on cd17 and I normally O on CD 18 so we are at a very similar place right now. Ditto on the desire to get back in the game quickly! Are you doing a cautious sway or going whole-hog-gimme-a-bfp?

Atomic, that's so great that you had some natural births you really enjoyed. I found myself a midwife for this time around so hopefully I will have a better experience than the first. Like you, my water broke but I wasn't in active labor or dilating. They let me labor on my own (without pit) for about 16 hours and then insisted on hastening the process with pitocin because they had set a 24hr time limit for the birth. I got the lowest dose epidural possible, and LUCKILY it worked -- I was throwing up and nearly passing out from the pit-induced back labor! Good to know that without pitocin or back labor the contrax will plateau. Hope I get to experience that someday. :) Charlee, go for it and you can always request meds if you get in a bind. Or better yet, try to go into labor on your own before they need to induce. ;)

[Cagirl09]

Cagirl, we are cycle buddies! I am on cd17 and I normally O on CD 18 so we are at a very similar place right now. Ditto on the desire to get back in the game quickly! Are you doing a cautious sway or going whole-hog-gimme-a-bfp?



I told my DH that it depends on whether or not I ovulate from the left or right side. I frequently feel O pain, so I can recognize that I almost ALWAYS Ovulate from the right, Ha! I can't even remember the last time I ovulated on the left. Anyway, I told DH that if I do in fact ovulate from the left, we will do a less strict sway in an attempt to increase our chances to catch that eggie. Otherwise, we will be very strict in our attempt, like immediate J&D, more aci-jel w/ less of a delay between insertion an BD, longer hot shower for DH and more antihistamines for me. So for no EWCM for me whatesoever, though, and I usually have at least some a few days before O, but I just took my OPK, its getting a tiny bit darker, so I can't help but wonder if I will get a fade-in tomorrow with a more positive one on Friday.

[Niva]

Cagirl, do you know that both ovaries can give you O pains in the same cycle even if only one releases an egg? Often it is the one that DOESN'T release an egg that feels the pains worse, because the follicles on that side are still swollen and the pressure hasn't been released by the egg rupturing out. So unfortunately even when we think our O pain is consistently predictive, it may not be. :(

Hope you get your +OPK soon! Mine has been half-dark and I've had borderline EWCM for about 10 days now, so I'm still in limbo too.

[Cagirl09]

Hmmm, Niva, I definitely did not know that! That certainly puts a whole new spin on things for me. At least it may mean that I ovulate from the left more than I realize, but may change my sway attempt a bit. Hmm. what to do, somewhere in the middle I guess.

Lets hope this Limbo passes for us soon!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Two days out of town worked...and 1 day closer to the u/s!! I feel really good tonight about stuff in general for me, but when I read the stuggles other girls are dealing with, I feel guilty for being excited for myself.

With boys, I did have back labour, but the support of my mom, DH and MD made DS1 arrival great...and with DS2, I was so much more zen and I wish that he would have been head down. All the more reason for my rainbow baby to be my VBAC!!

Cagirl and Niva.....I hope that being cd buddies means that 2 bfps are in our near future in this thread!!!

[Pumpkin2011]

Ladybugs, staying away from this site also works ;). I was working second shift on tuesday and yesterday we´ve been to the zoo all day long.

I went to my gyn this morning because I am having stabbing pain on the left side fom time to time and since I had an ectopic in dec I wanted to make sure everything is located were it should be. Everything is looking great and it even looks like we might be expecting two little pumpkins :running:. We have seen two gestational sacs but one of them was hidden pretty good. My gyn could not tell 100% yet because everyting was still so small and I also have a retroverted uterus but she was pretty excited. Hope we´ll find out next friday :).

Charlee I had a natural birth without any meds but only because everything was going so fast that there was no time for an epidural. I was fully dilated after only an hour and two hours later DS was born. It was a wonderful experience and I am really happy I did it without any meds. This time I was thinking of a water birth...

[GeCon]

Pumpkin, wonderful news that all is well with one or possibly even two little pumpkins. :running:

[Emily]

Two days out of town worked...and 1 day closer to the u/s!! I feel really good tonight about stuff in general for me, but when I read the stuggles other girls are dealing with, I feel guilty for being excited for myself.

With boys, I did have back labour, but the support of my mom, DH and MD made DS1 arrival great...and with DS2, I was so much more zen and I wish that he would have been head down. All the more reason for my rainbow baby to be my VBAC!!

Cagirl and Niva.....I hope that being cd buddies means that 2 bfps are in our near future in this thread!!!

Never feel guilty about your own happiness - After my chemical hearing about BFPs and pregnancies kept me going. Yes, there were days when I thought "why not me?" but never to the point of not wanting to hear how my cyber buddies were doing.

Cagirl and Niva, O pains are so hard to interpret. I was sure that mine were dead on O due to cm changes and OPKs but when I started temping I realised sometimes they were pre O and sometimes post. Am crossing my fingers for you both and sending you lots of baby dust (you might need to dye it pink before you use it though LOL).

[I Love Ladybugs]

Pumpkin.....2 babies!!!! That is awesome and exciting all in one!!! So your next scan is a week Friday....you are going to have lots of pumpkin stalkers!!!!

I am really trying to just savour this pregnancy as I know that it is our last. I sometimes loose sight that I have endured the storms, clouds and rain, and that a rainbow is meant to be enjoyed.

[3boys]

Pumpkin wow!! Two sacs.... Sounds so exciting. :) :) :) :)

[Niva]

Wow, Pumpkin, two sacs?? That is AWESOME!!!! You must be so excited (and nervous)! We'll definitely be waiting with fingers crossed for your next scans. :)

Ladybugs, I know how you feel. I've had to take a step back and realize the same thing -- I should be excited about making another human, not fearful that I won't get it "right" (aka pink). I've felt the same, that this was our last, so the pressure was on. Although now I'm thinking three kids would be pretty nice...

Emily, you are spot on about sharing both the good and the bad on this board. All the successes make me happy and hopeful! :) And it is very nice to have a place here where worries are understood and sympathized with. We're all at different stages of a very similar journey, and one that not many people IRL are taking or would even understand.

[Charlee]

OMG Pumpkin I am so excited for you!!!!

[Charlee]

Thanks for all the awesome advice ladies! I REALLY want to do this naturally, but my OB is pretty dead set on induction @ 38 weeks... and you all said the same thing I've heard before... that Pitocin makes it ten times worse to go natural :(

I have NO clue what a natural labor feels like... I feel kind of cheated in a way because of it. Everyone has these beautiful birth stories and mine are kinda empty in comparison. (Yes i know this is me being overly emotional right now LOL) It's just that I react VERY strongly to pitocin and have very strong painful contractions... I just don't know if I can do it without meds with pitocin :(

Both my births sound like yours Atomic with DS4! I pushed for literally 3/4 hrs and tore badly with both of them. They were only 6 lbs! I think I'm just an utter failure with this whole pregnancy/birth stuff... Thank god I've got a decent career... LOL

I'm going to talk to my Dr about a natural birth tomorrow at my appt... maybe she will reconsider letting me go into labor on my own. I think that's my only shot at a natual birth.

[Charlee]

Okay... stupid question... what is gas and air? LOL I think we have a different name for it in the US :)

[Charlee]

Nevermind... I figured it out... this is why I didn't know what it was!

Laughing gas making a comeback for pregnant mothers in the U.S | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356900/Laughing-gas-making-comeback-pregnant-mothers-U-S.html)

[Emily]

Charlee if you are going to be induced ask if they do mobile or low dose epidurals. My doc in Africa said they don't exist but they do! You can walk around with them. Failing that you can ask for epidural to be timed to lessen towards the actual delivery part, or lie on your side immediately after your epidural is put in as this can make it stronger on that side and weaker on the other so you can still feel contractions (if you are likely to need an episiotomy then check what side they do that on!!!) My epidural with DS2 was great as it could feel a lot on one side after I did the laying down trick but the pain was bearable. It doesn't work for everyone though so a lower dose is preferable if your hospital do that.

I think I have found somewhere half decent to have DS3 or DD1 so am feeling more upbeat. I ended up squatting a contracting in a corridor waiting for a room to become available with DS1 so I was please to see they have lots of chairs in the corridors in the hospital I have found online!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Niva...we were so set on two, but that would have been one of each, lol. I feel blessed to have the chance for a bigger family....and realize that my 2 sonshines could be joined by a third...and that would be great too!!!

[Charlee]

Emily - I applaud you for your strength and bravery in having babies all over the world! Since we're friends on FB maybe you noticed that I grew up all over the world... I spent most of my childhood in Asia... southeast Asia specifically. I think you will be pleasantly surprised by your experience there. Vietnam is a beautiful, bustling country and they have VERY competent doctors. My best friend of many years lives there now and she loves it! It is much more developed than Africa so I think you will most likely have a better birth experience :)

I will ask my Dr about my options at my appt today... the low dose epidural sounds perfect!

[TTCPink]

This is a great thread! A wonderful way to keep up with friends who have gotten there BFP's. I would try to check in on everyone in the due date threads once in awhile, but there was so much information to scan through to find the ones that I "know." Glad to see everyone here in one place!!

I pray I will be able to join you with a BFP soon. We just finished our two attempts for this month and it looks like I most likely O'd yesterday, so I am starting my 10th two week wait. Hoping it's the last one!!

[Charlee]

Oh TTCPink I am praying this is your last 2ww! I'm rooting for you all the way :)

[Charlee]

So I'm back from my Dr appt with u/s pics!!! Baby is measuring perfectly and was kicking up a storm during the scan... she's even using her yolk sac as a pillow! Haha ... hoping these pics turn out on here... they were difficult to photograph. When I get home I will scan them in and upload them that way if they aren't clear :)

[Pumpkin2011]

Charlee i like how you say "she". FX you are right ;)!

[Charlee]

Well I don't like using "it" and I figured I might jinx myself if I say "he" so for now it's a "she"! Haha

I couldn't upload pics from my phone so I'll do it at home :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Charlee.....use she.....you will be using it come Dec!!!!! I am so excited that your scan went well...you have me all psyched up for mine on Tuesday!

Pumpkin.....1 more week until your scan...it is going to be a long wait for us! :) I think that is truely great that there are 2 on board!!!

TTC Pink.....I hope that your 2 week wait flies by and that a GIANT bfp is the reward of this cycle!!!!

I am going to spill the beans tomorrow to family....I had the only person who knows about the baby (a girl who I bought some mat. shirts from 1.5 weeks ago) tell her dad...another pt in our clinic...and I got a "Congrats ...I hear you are execting!!" Luckily, my coworkers did not overhear it!!!!
Plus, my ILs are coming up for a visit when I will be 12 weeks, so DH wants DS1 to tell them!!! Oh boy...the comments are going to start!!!!!!!

[Charlee]

Here "SHE" is! :)

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s597/charlee1015/babyhemphill_zpsc03ad121.jpg (http://s1307.photobucket.com/user/charlee1015/media/babyhemphill_zpsc03ad121.jpg.html)

[Pumpkin2011]

OMG Charlee that's such a cute pic :HH:! She already is a beauty!

[Charlee]

haha Thanks Pumpkin! :) I'm in love already of course :)

Despite all the pregnancies we have been through, DH seems more invested and excited about this one... it's so nice to be able to share that excitement with him :)

[Pumpkin2011]

That's how my DH is this time :). This is the one person that I want to talk about the pregnancy with the most and it's awesome that he doesn't get annoyed :). He is so excited about the fact that we might be expecting twins I keep reminding him that it's not even sure yet.

When is your next scan Charlee?

I just realized that we have to pay for the NT scan so I guess there will be no nub guessing for me :(. Maybe I'll just pay for a normal privat scan around 13weeks and ask for a full body profile shot.

[Charlee]

My next scan will the NT scan between 12-13 weeks... so about 2 weeks from now :) Hopefully I get a sympathetic person who is willing to give me pics again :)

That's great your DH is excited too! Some men just don't get it... it's not that they don't care, they just feel detached I think. This time around our DH's were so in tune with TTC and everything that they feel the same excitement we do! And your DH has TWICE the reason to be excited :) twins are a very special thing for parents :) I'm keeping my fingers crossed for your next scan!

[I Love Ladybugs]

All these upcoming scans have me so happy girls......what a great week ahead!!! Charlee.....your "she" is one cutie!!!!

So I told my mom and SIL today....and fielded congrats from both with few questions on this pregnancy. Once my SIL left for home, my mom asked me if we were going to find out gender. She only knows that I was eating differently and exercising a lot more than with the boys, so I think that she is hoping pink and curious to see if I will get the chance for my girl!!! I mentioned that I am not sure if we are going to share gender even if we have a girl, but her and I both agree that someone will say something and either I will smile too big or burst into tears. I know that if this is my little boy Levi, I will enjoy his snuggles once he arrives and kicks in utereo, but there will be some longing for what I will miss out on. She knows that I want the girl for more than pink and that I want what she has with me.

[TTCPink]

Ladybugs, I feel the same way! The biggest reason I want a girl is that I dream of having a daughter to have the same kind of relationship with her that my mom and I have. My mom is my best friend and we share so much together. I actually told her I was swaying because she knows that I am TTC. When I shared this with her she confessed that she swayed when she was TTC me in 1978! It sounds like she did Shettles because she remembers temping and using a douche.

I really hope this is your little girl!! Of course it goes without saying that you will adore your little Levi if this is him. I LOVE that name!

[3boys]

Got my scan tomorrow at 11.00. Excited but very nervous. Hope my little jelly bean is swimming away nicely in there :)

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladybugs, I feel the same way! The biggest reason I want a girl is that I dream of having a daughter to have the same kind of relationship with her that my mom and I have. My mom is my best friend and we share so much together. I actually told her I was swaying because she knows that I am TTC. When I shared this with her she confessed that she swayed when she was TTC me in 1978! It sounds like she did Shettles because she remembers temping and using a douche.

I really hope this is your little girl!! Of course it goes without saying that you will adore your little Levi if this is him. I LOVE that name!

I hope that your BFP (that you will get soon!!) has a little sticky, healthy pink bundle as the outcome.....and that you get to continue the legacy that your mom and you have with your daughter!!

My dad had said to my mom that he was going to leave her in the hospital if her DC#3 was not a boy. She had me, then lost a boy at 16weeks preggo, then had my sister, and ended up with my brother at the end. We joked that my brother spends the most time over there, but that is due to food and helping my dad as they are now in business together!

I would love it if all of us TTC pink dream girls had pink bundles!! Best of luck catching the pink swimmers!!!!!

And to you 3boys....I hope that your scan goes smoothly and you see your little bub right on target!!!!

[2lovelyboys]

Hi ladies, hope you all had a lovely weekend. Seems like I have missed a lot over the past few days!

Pumpkin, 2? That's exciting news! Will be stalking on Friday!

Charlee, your little one looks lovely! It's great seeing scan pics, makes it all the more real :)

3boys, good luck with your scan 2day!

Ladybugs, not long till your scan . . . . Will be looking forward to hearing all about it :)

CaGirl & Niva, did you get a +OPK?

Emily & GeCon, how are you both feeling?

TTCPink, hope this 2ww flies by and you get a BFP!

One of my best friends IRL went into hospital to have her first, a DD, am sitting on my phone waiting for news, am so excited for her! Hope I'm as lucky!

[Dreamofpink]

Hi ladies, hope you all had a lovely weekend. Seems like I have missed a lot over the past few days!

Pumpkin, 2? That's exciting news! Will be stalking on Friday!

Charlee, your little one looks lovely! It's great seeing scan pics, makes it all the more real :)

3boys, good luck with your scan 2day!

Ladybugs, not long till your scan . . . . Will be looking forward to hearing all about it :)

CaGirl & Niva, did you get a +OPK?

Emily & GeCon, how are you both feeling?

TTCPink, hope this 2ww flies by and you get a BFP!

One of my best friends IRL went into hospital to have her first, a DD, am sitting on my phone waiting for news, am so excited for her! Hope I'm as lucky!

Hi Ladies sorry I've been MIA recently. Preg hormones and buying & selling houses aren't at all compatible! Getting to me quite a bit. Lovely to catch up on everyone's progress.
Pumpkin, 2 sounds wonderful!! Congrats! Keeping my fx that it all goes well.

Hope everyone else is keeping well. X x

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[3boys]

I posted on the due in December thread but wanted to update here. That my scan went really well and baby was measuring three days ahead with a nice strong heartbeat :) :) :)

[GeCon]

TTCPink, nice to see you on here. I really hope that this is your month and you caught the egg this cycle.

Charlee, what a little cutie!

3boys, great news on your scan going well.

2LB, I am alright, thanks. We have spent a few days at my grandparents and although it was lovely to see them, it usually is a bit stressful and I am not sure if it is due to pregnancy hormones, but things got to me a bit more this time. But we are back home now and are already relaxing. Pregnancy-wise, I am looking forward to our next scan next Monday.

Pumpkin, I am trying to see if I can have my 1st of the Vorsorge-Scans as close to 12 weeks as possible to see if we can get a nubshot.

[Emily]

2lovelyboys I am feeling pretty yucky and pretty tired. DH is still away, the weather is crappy and the boys are not sleeping. Bit of a pity party going on! I think I am going to have an early night so that I am a bit more with it tomorrow.

I am still trying to work out whether it is safe to have injections when pregnant. Everyone seems to say something different. What do you ladies think?

[Niva]

2LB, yes! I finally got my +OPK last Thursday on CD 18. Not too far different from a normal cycle, thank goodness, because the wait was killing! We DTD and now I'm likely 2dpo (though FF says 3).

I'm of two minds about this 2ww. On the one hand, I really want to see that second pink line again SOON after that last one that faded away! On the other hand, I don't feel very confident about my sway this month. I lost 2-3 lbs during the chemical (stress, yep, that'll do it) and then gained it back AF-o. Also I had quite a lot of anxiety nearly the entire AF-o, whch is really not like me at all, and I'm sure it swayed really heavily -- but I don't know whether it swayed pink or blue. So if this month is a bfn, it'll be not all that bad since I'll be given a second chance to make sure next month's sway is more of the "normal" pink kind.

If it's a bfp, on the other hand, I have totally wrapped my mind around the likelihood of it being a boy, and I am really, realy okay with that. I have been seeing some really wonderful brother pairs lately and I can truthfully say I'd like that for my son *almost* as much as I want a little girl for myself. So I think after I have weighted my dice and made my throw, my GD will fade to the background and I'll be able to fully enjoy the pregnancy.

Emily, sorry your boys are keeping you up. Sleep loss is the #1 hardship of motherhood! Hope you can have an early night and feel better soon. :)

GeCon, there's nothing like family to pull your strings, especially when hormones are involved. Glad you are home and can relax again now.

3boys, so glad your scan showed a strong little baby in there! :)

Dreamofpink, hope the rest of your home-selling goes smoothly and it's done soon. When will you be moving to your new place, or have you moved already? The nesting will be so much fun!

Ladybugs and ttcpink, I'm with you there on the good mother relationships. My mom is extremely eccentric (though I didn't realize it until I was nearly adult), but we are emotionally very close despite her practical idiosyncracies. I really want that closeness with a daughter -- though I don't exclude the possibility of having that with my son(s) too! My little guy is SO much more loving and caring than I ever expected. :)

[Niva]

Emily, what kinds of injections to you mean? It depends what is in the syringe. :) Most vaccines are perfectly safe, and your OB will know if any are not.

[Emily]

Emily, what kinds of injections to you mean? It depends what is in the syringe. :) Most vaccines are perfectly safe, and your OB will know if any are not.

Thanks Niva I am go ing to bed straight after typing this. The boys are just unsettled because daddy is away for so long this time. Last night we all slept in the same bed which was cute:)

I don't see my OB till the 6th but I think I will delay any injections till then. I am leaning towards not having any at the moment to be honest. I will need Hep A, typhoid, diphtheria, tetanus booster and probably rabies and Japanese encephalitis - I think some of those are live which are meant to be worse.

Niva, fingers crossed for a BFPP (big fat pink positive) for you this month.

Dreamofpink, the packing is killing me! I keep finding things that I don't want to get rid of even though I should and spending hours reading old letters and looking at old photos! Are you going to move lock stock and barrel or try to ******line to make room for the new addition?

GEcon what are you going to say to try to get a nub shot? They are so business like here with scans that I don't even think they turn the screen let alone print anything out for you. I might have to get DH to secretly film it.

I totally agree that the mother daughter bond is the main thing I am hankering after. I know that some mums have amazing bonds with their boys and some have terrible relationships with their daughters BUT there is something special gilt to girl isn't there? Occasionally playing with something other than cars and Lego would be cool too!

Good night ladies.

[Cagirl09]

Hey 2lb, thanks so much for checking in on me. Its nice to be included here :) I think I am Oing today, I'll check for my temp rise tomorrow to confirm, so fingers crossed! Only thing is I had 2 days of the EWCM, but it disappearted before the + opk (yesterday) and has not been back, so I'm not sure what that means about our chances this month. How have you been feeing?

Its so nice to read up about how many of your are doing. I can absolutely relate to the feeling of wanting that relationship with a daugther, as that is definitely a bit motivating factor for me!

Hope that time passes quickly for those of you awaiting scans and that for those of you that dont' feel well, that you feel better soon.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Back from my scan....and I was blessed by the most amazing u/s tech! She showed me the screen and a little baby measuring right on target with a heartbeat!!! And to top it off....gave me a few pix!!!! I will try to get a picture of it later to post here.

[GeCon]

Ladybugs, brilliant news on the scan. I cannot wait to see a pic of the little ladybug.

Cagirl, fingers crossed for your temp rise tomorrow.

Emily, I am sorry I have no advice on the injections, so I guess speaking to your doc is probably best.

Niva, hopefully this will be your last 2ww. I think you have a really good chance of a pink bean this cycle.

As for me: I don't really have a lot of symptoms apart from being so emotional. I have already burst into tears today when explaining why his behaviour wasn't nice to LO. And then again when talking to OH about something else later. *Sigh* And my boobs are sooo sore. Ouch!

How is everyone else?

[GeCon]

And I am also having these crazy vivid pregnancy dreams, which I can't recall having so early on with our LO. It would actually be nice to have a night's sleep without any dream at all...

[Niva]

GeCon, I got super emotional AND had vivid dreams with just my chemical, so I know they can start really early. About bursting into tears while reprimanding DS -- I have done exactly the same thing before. And last month when I was so hormonal, my DS started sobbing because I sang a sad song to him (little did I know it was sad), but soon I was sobbing too -- it's like preggo hormones turn on the empathy to full power, even if your rational side knows better. As soon as the chemical ended, the amped-up feelings did too. Hope your OH was understanding!

Thanks for the good wishes. :)

[GeCon]

Niva, thankfully my husband is very understanding, but I still felt so silly afterwards.

Emily, I just realised I didn't respond to your question about the nub shot. I am thinking of telling the person doing the scan that my friends love having a guess at the gender, so would it be possible to get a full length body shot from the side. I think it is best from the right, but I am thinking that might overcomplicate things.

[I Love Ladybugs]

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Just showing off pix of baby ladybug!!!!

[Cagirl09]

Amazing ladybugs, babies are such a miracle, each and every time. So exciting!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Niva...I keep on reading your siggie, and love the April showers, May flowers and pray that you get your sticky, bfp this month!!!! Cagirl...you too!!!

I am happy that she showed me the screen...and I don't have to wait 9 days for this news!!

[GeCon]

Beautiful pics of the wee Ladybug! When is your next scan now?

[Mathilde]

Ladybug:"she" is cute! Could "she" be defined as a ladybird nymph or larva;) Mathilde

[GeCon]

:wave: Mathilde. How are things with you?

[Mathilde]

Quiet, a little down as not pg yet.. Envious of you guys..:) waiting for o on Sunday hopefully, feeling a little like giving up.. Hungry.. Here it's raining, just as well, shouldn't probably be filling up on vit d any way;) thanks for asking :) and you?

[Emily]

Niva, thankfully my husband is very understanding, but I still felt so silly afterwards.

Emily, I just realised I didn't respond to your question about the nub shot. I am thinking of telling the person doing the scan that my friends love having a guess at the gender, so would it be possible to get a full length body shot from the side. I think it is best from the right, but I am thinking that might overcomplicate things.

Ooh good tip thanks. I still don't have a date for mine. The midwife told me that ob will make an app for a scan but I don't se him /her till June 6 and I am almost in week 8 now. There better be an appointment available then otherwise I am going to break in and do it myself!

[Emily]

Quiet, a little down as not pg yet.. Envious of you guys..:) waiting for o on Sunday hopefully, feeling a little like giving up.. Hungry.. Here it's raining, just as well, shouldn't probably be filling up on vit d any way;) thanks for asking :) and you?

The weather appears to be rubbish the world over at the moment! We had hail a few days ago.???!!!

It will happen soon. Fingers crossed for you on Sunday.

[I Love Ladybugs]

Ladybug:"she" is cute! Could "she" be defined as a ladybird nymph or larva;) Mathilde

Awe...that warms my heart!! (I was trying to type warm and worm first appeared :) )

I am keeping my fingers crossed for you Mathilde that you produce a lovely egg this weekend that is caught by pink swimmers!!!

Thank-you to Gecon.....I think that my next scan is the 18-20 week one, unless DH feels sorry for me and wants to travel 8-9 hours to a private clinic to find out gender!! We found out that it might be difficult to know if baby ladybug is he or she due to the restrictions placed on the medical u/s techs.
How are you feeling???

Emily....I am going to be pushing for my 18-20 week u/s at my 12 week visit with my MD...it takes a month normally to get an u/s around here! And we had hail last week...insane weather world wide!!!

[Niva]

Count me in on the ugly weather phenomenon. We were cowering inside all day yesterday with thunderstorms and a tornado watch! Luckily it cooled down after the T-storm passed and today is nice again.

I'm driving myself crazy trying to figure out if my sense of smell is acute again. It seems like it is -- but maybe only because I'm looking for it!

[Charlee]

Niva- your chart is looking promising! FX :)

So I went to the Dr today and got my blood drawn for my prenatal screenings. She is also doing a Carrier Screening on me. She seems to think I have about a 50% shot at it turning up positive, which means I would have a chromosomal abnormality that I'm passing onto the babies and possibly the cause of my losses. I am terrified to get the results :( if its positive then I will at least have an answer, but there is nothing I can do to change it. I guess its very common among bi racial people ( which I am, my father has African American and Native American heritage... youbwouldnt think to just look at me though... I'm very light skinned). Anyway, the test is called InheriGen.

[GeCon]

Niva, nice looking chart. :agree:

Charlee, I don't know what to say other than fingers crossed that the test comes back negative. When will you get the results?

[I Love Ladybugs]

Niva- your chart is looking promising! FX :)

So I went to the Dr today and got my blood drawn for my prenatal screenings. She is also doing a Carrier Screening on me. She seems to think I have about a 50% shot at it turning up positive, which means I would have a chromosomal abnormality that I'm passing onto the babies and possibly the cause of my losses. I am terrified to get the results :( if its positive then I will at least have an answer, but there is nothing I can do to change it. I guess its very common among bi racial people ( which I am, my father has African American and Native American heritage... youbwouldnt think to just look at me though... I'm very light skinned). Anyway, the test is called InheriGen.

I hope that it is negative....and that this little baby is your keeper!!! Any wait for blood tests is too long in my books...may the time fly for your results.

[Cagirl09]

Niva, I agree. Your chart looks great! Hope this is it!

[Niva]

Charlee, I do hope your tests come back negative. But even if they are positive, it doesn't mean your current bean is affected -- a carrier has a good gene to pass on, too! Crossing my fingers that this is your daughter, finally.

Thanks all, I do like the look of my chart. But I have fewer symptoms than last month at this same dpo. Not emotional at all, no feelings in lower tummy, and no obviously keen sense of smell (beyond when I'm looking for it, that is). My gut feeling is that I'd be very surprised to see a bfp this cycle.

How are you doing, Cagirl? You need to add your chart to your siggy so I can stalk! :)

[Pumpkin2011]

Charlee hopefully the test will come back negative! Your Boys are not affected so I am positive this little one won't be as well!

Niva my symptoms started at 8 dpo I had less symptoms the days before then the previous months. Your chart looks great!

Ladybugs the pics are beautiful. Glad to hear everything is fine!

[GeCon]

6 weeks today and the baby is now the size of a sweetpea. :awe:

[3boys]

Charlee hope the test comes back negative Hun, but I agree it is best to know what you are facing with. I wish they would test me.

Niva hope you get that BFP!

I'm still the week of the raspberry (both the baby and me :rofl:)

[2lovelyboys]

Niva keeping my fingers crossed for you, the 2ww is awful!

Ladybugs, what fabulous pictures! They brought a BIG smile to my face :) can't wait for my scan, have to wait till 12 weeks tho :(

Charlee, I hope the results come back negative! Like Niva said carriers still have good genes to pass on!

I haven't been well this week, my MIL had a tummy bug last week, I saw her on Friday, Monday evening I started feeling very poorly and was violently sick :( am feeling better now but off my food and still nauseous, do you think I could have caught her tummy bug or may it be morning sickness?

[I Love Ladybugs]

My ILs are going to be in town next week, so I am going to leave the scan pix on the fridge and see if they notice. They may see the belly first though....lol, and it might give it away!!!

My pregnancy with DS2 had the least hints in the 2ww and was by far the most m/s, symptom filled pregnancy!!! Sending all our testers and waiters and ttcer's the best, brightest and pinkest vibes for bfps!!!!

[Cagirl09]

How are you doing, Cagirl? You need to add your chart to your siggy so I can stalk! :)

I will have to look into how to attach my chart tonight. Unfortunately, I don't know if I O'd or not. I think the liklihood is not because I did not see the am bbt temp rise. The only thing that is throwing me a tiny bit is that later in the day I seem to have post O temperatures. I know its not the same as bbt, but I typically run around 98.6 post O and 97.9 pre O daytime temps. A part of me wonders if my sleep cycle got all out of whack after I did some serious sleep deprivation for about 10 days following the m/c and leading up to O and my body feels like it is earlier than it actually is? Ordinarily, I would think that is a stretch, but that happened to me when TTC DS becuase we had been traveling between time zones and I ended up preggo that month. Who knows. I'm continuing to monitor the OPKs and will plan for another attempt if I get another positive. Poor DH though, he has been FR for so long! I think I will wait a few more days to see if I get another surge and if not maybe give him a break and hope for the best in June. The process has been quite frustrating to say the least.

[2lovelyboys]

Add me to this awful weather! This morning was glorious, at lunchtime the heavens opened and there was very heavy hail! Where is this crazy weather coming from!

Ladybugs, I like the idea of putting your pics on the fridge. My MIL still wouldn't mention anything until we did tho!

My family already know that I'm pregnant but DHs don't, he thinks we should also let them know, I do agree but this time I feel really anxious. No reason to, I don't get any blood tests or scans until 12 weeks, any appointments now are just form filling exercises, doesn't put my mind at rest! :(

[I Love Ladybugs]

2lovely...I may just get DS1 to spill the beans!!! He loves to brag on "his" baby!!!!

[2lovelyboys]

Ladybugs, that is sweet, bless him! Maybe nice for him to tell your ILs, could give them the pics? :)

[GeCon]

Good luck for your scan later, Pumpkin. Can't wait to hear about Mini-Pumpkin(s).
:luck:

[Dreamofpink]

Thinking of you Pumpkin! Hope all goes well, can't wait to hear how your little Pumpkins are doing. :D

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[3boys]

Good luck Pumpkin. Thinking of you :D

[Pumpkin2011]

Well we have seen one sac and a baby so there is definitely progress but we could not see the heartbeat and I am freaking out now :(. My doc said there is nothing to worry about and I remember having the same problem with DS but that doesn't calm me down somehow :(.
We are going on vacation on Sunday for 10 days and my next appointment is June 10th that's AGES away!!!

[3boys]

Pumpkin praying that your little baby is ok sweetheart. I'm sure she will be just fine. 6 weeks and 5 is still early. If the doctor didn't seem concerned then try and take some peace from that. I know its hard. Thinking of you x

[GeCon]

Pumpkin, if the doc says there is nothing to worry about, you should take her advice and not worry. I know it is easier said than done, but I assume she measured the baby and all is well.

Relax, Pumpkin and enjoy your pregnancy and holiday!

[Mrs_P]

i had early scans with ds2 at 6 weeks and this one at just 7 weeks (although babe only measured 6 weeks) neither had a heart beat at the time (not detectable anyway), both pregnancies were fine (well i am only 35 weeks but so far ok with this one). I don't think docs worry until well into the 7th week - if your measuring right for your dates there is no need to worry x

[GeCon]

:wave: Mrs_P and thanks for giving some positive feedback for our worried little Pumpkin.

[Pumpkin2011]

Thanks Mrs_P that's exactly what I needed to hear!!

[I Love Ladybugs]

Pumpkin :bighug: June 10th is forever away....I know the feeling of long spaces between and waiting for appts, so I hope that your vacation flies by and you come home to see a little pumpkin growing with an amazing heartbeat on your next scan. My DS2 gave me a run for my money too..and he defied the odds and is my wonderful sonshine x2!!

[2lovelyboys]

Pumpkin, sorry you are worrying, I hope you have a lovely holiday and the 10th June comes quickly!

[TTCPink]

Thinking of you Pumpkin! I just know it is going to be OK. I can't wait to hear that you had your next scan and that all is well so that you can settle in and enjoy your pregnancy. I agree with the others that not detecting a heartbeat by ultrasound at this stage of development is not uncommon. I also had to go for a repeat scan when no heartbeat could be detected at an early scan for DS1. I remember being worried sick for a couple weeks waiting for the next scan at the time, but he is now a seven year old! :) Hugs!

[Pumpkin2011]

Ladies you are awesome thank you so much for your support :bighug:!!

[Niva]

Pumpkin, we will all be waiting for your next scan... I think it's much more likely that things are okay than that they aren't!

I've been having a kinda weird poas phenomenon all month. Even though my blood HGC levels went down to <2, every time I use an IC I get a faint shadow. I never used to get this kind of shadow before my chemical -- a bfn was ALWAYS pure lily-white. I know it isn't an early bfp because I tested on cd 14 and 16 (checking that the chemical was gone) and saw the shadow, and then today I tested with an IC and a FRER and got the same shadow on the IC, but very white bfn on the frer. Has anyone else seen this before? Any ideas what could be causing it? 11487

[Pumpkin2011]

Niva that looks like an evap line. Unfortunately most of the IC's have them. You can try taking one with water and see of a second line appears that's what I did to find out if my BFP was a real one.

[I Love Ladybugs]

When I was ttc or prettc, I would look at all the tickers and see 10, 11, 12 week and think it was so far away! I wanted a baby lime in the belly and have been enjoying seeing my bump ticker this week.

What symptoms are our ttcer's feeling, our newly preggos experiencing????? I may have turned the corner in terms of m/s....now I need to reign in the extra eating.