♥ May 2011 Blue Cheer Squad Thread ♥

[princessap]

sorry to hear that Jen :(

As for swaying I totally know what you mean....I didnt sway for a
few months and the last two months did some swaying but not hardcore. We conceived a boy before so think it
will happen again.

I dont know how u hard core swayers do it!
Jen, are you doing supplements?

[begonia]

Oh Jen I'm sorry to hear that. I think I will absolutely get worn out from swaying once I start really getting more serious with it. I've been lax on the diet (mostly eating more sugar than I should) because really, if we don't try til October, I'm not getting my game on until 3 months prior, so I'm doing some things now but holding off on others so I don't wear out. Otherwise I KNOW I'd fade with energy to keep it up. ITA that I feel like if I don't do it I'm going to get a girl for sure, and if I do do it I at least have a shot at a boy. And that is what has to keep you going, right? Knowing you did all you could do.

DD is in swim lessons and the kid there before her was a little boy. Talked to his mom a bit and she has 2 older DD's, and then him. It was so hard not to ask if they did anything different, LOL! I usually feel encouraged when I see that though... like it CAN happen, and for most people it probably happened quite naturally, with no egg whites or baking soda involved.

On the flip side I was at a dinner party 2 nights ago at a friends house who has 3 DD's. And they are just LOVELY girls. And it made me realize that I could definitely have a 3rd daughter and be happy :-) I needed that boost b/c lately I've been thinking if I don't have a son, I'll be crushed.

[TTC5]

Hi ladies we are home now please let me know whose details need to be added that i may have missed the last few days xox

[iluvmyman]

Okay girls I am 7dpo and no symptoms other than a little bit of
cramping yesterday. I am not sure what to think.
Iluvmyman....any symptoms???

I was really tired like 2dpo and 3dpo and I'm getting irritated pretty quickly but that could just be PMS or my normal personality. :) I'd ask DH but I'd prefer not to hear the answer. I bought an early prego test detector so I think I might test on Sunday which would be like 10dpo or 11dpo. Since I think I actually Ovulated during the evening of DTD plus the conception time. I'm making day 1 the day after we DTD. blah, blah, blah a-n-y-w-a-y, no symptoms really.

I like when I'm not expecting to get pregnant a little bit more than this. It's torture. :)

[iluvmyman]

Iluv how many DPO are you? Are you a POAS kinda girl or a wait for AF kinda girl?


Ha! I am in NO way that patient. :) I've not been wanting to admit (darn you begonia and the way you get these things out of me!) :) this but I POAS this morning at 7dpo or 8dpo. :oops:

To my defense the website says u can "test as early as 6 to 8 days after conceiving". I'm bummed I didn't wait now since it was a BFN. I'm seriously like crap, I'd better get back full board on the diet if we need to do this again in May.

I'm thinking that if we DTD in the am and still got + opk that pm then it's best to think I didn't conceive till that next day which would put me at 7dpo today I guess. I think I'll test again on Sunday. Would make for a great Mother's Day. S/B 10 dpo.

[iluvmyman]

Oh and got sop pics yesterday from a relative they just got this new baby boy!
Now everyone in the family got boys and girls but us.:sad:

Sorry, sweetie!

[iluvmyman]

Just popping in to say AF has finally arrived cd 33 :sad: On to next month!

On a side note is anyone so sick of swaying but too scared to stop? Now don't get me wrong I won't mind another girl I just feel that without swaying I don't even have a 50/50 shot at a boy.

Darn it! So sorry, that is just not even nice!

[iluvmyman]

sorry to hear that Jen :(
I dont know how u hard core swayers do it!

I guess I'm kinda hard core....so I'll comment anyway. :) It's just desperation. :) Being 35 and supposed to be the last DC, I feel like i have to go hard core. I'm sure I could do better though on the diet. The hardest thing for me was getting the amount of daily potassium and I hate water so I didn't even get close to the amount of water I s/b drinking. I ate a lot for me, but I just am not a super big eater. I wasn't hard core tracking the mgs of potassium or sodium but I thought I did OK. Like a C+ or B-.

[lightofmylife]

3PNB ..sorry to hear u got af :(

Flava.... i am also getting news " we are blessed with baby boy " on facebook daily... and i am only in my frs having 2 daughters but lots of couple having 2 dds in our complex..... last week i was in a park and can u believe i found 6 families with 2 dds and 1ds.. mostly have 2/3 boys or pp....i know i always look for family make ups :D

my dh gone mad, he started to tease me , like OH u r sitting on sofa not chair, does it sway blue ?? hey dont use black paper , first confirm it sways blue or pink?
which car sways blue ?
what type of dinner set sways blue ?
i really cant go out to shop with him, such an irritating guy now a days, he even not let me buy artificial floral , just coz we shud know it sways blue or not :s
and this all is for me , he himself runs with speed of 1000m/h from swaying :(

[Flava]

Just popping in to say AF has finally arrived cd 33 :sad: On to next month!

On a side note is anyone so sick of swaying but too scared to stop? Now don't get me wrong I won't mind another girl I just feel that without swaying I don't even have a 50/50 shot at a boy.

Im so sorry:sad: And I feel the same way. After 4 girls I don't believe that we have 50/50 every time. I know that's what they say but I feel there must be something more to it for ppl with 3+ of the same gender. Why I have 4 girls if it's 50/50 right?

[Flava]

light you DH is funny lol tell him his bad attitude sways pink:wink:

[begonia]

light you DH is funny lol tell him his bad attitude sways pink:wink:

LOL! Does the car sway blue or pink :rofl:

This thread is cracking me up this morning!

iluv I can't believe you tested already ... I LOVE IT! I swear I'll POAS 3DPO! Lol. By the time our kids have kids they'll probably have an app to tell you if you're pregnant or not right after you BD. That would be such a sweet Mother's Day present! My DD2 was born Mother's Day weekend :heart:

Flava ITA that once you've got several of one gender there is probably *something* going on that is naturally swaying you that way. I don't think it is 50/50 for everyone.

[lightofmylife]

light you DH is funny lol tell him his bad attitude sways pink:wink:
:rofl: Love it !!

[My Fabulous Children]

here is grapeseed (http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/file.asp?xs=C5C60AD56A7B49B5922D0D5D6D1F252F&PID=2051&CID=48&CPID=388) and brewer's yeast (http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/file.asp?xs=C5C60AD56A7B49B5922D0D5D6D1F252F&PID=478&CID=826&CPID=449) from Vitamin world.
They don't sell wheat grass anymore. So I got wheat grass juice (http://vitanetonline.com/description/50033/vitamins/Wheat-Grass-Juice-Powder/)from a health store here. Mix it in apple juice (or half water half apple) not so bad we mostly taste the juice. BUT I find the exact same thing online in capsules so I will order that next time.

Thanks Flava.

What does grapeseed do? And is it only for DW right?

I will order the wheat grass in capsule form, but next cycle ..I am now waiting to O.

[My Fabulous Children]

I think it can be because of the m/c . Better to wait for a good month with lot's of ewcm. Hope it will be this time for you! maybe it's just coming late...

I agree ..may be I am going to wait. *sigh*

[My Fabulous Children]

Ladies I eat toast this morning soon after I got up! Got this dark chocolate-almond spread in walmart and put that on the toast it was good . But I got nauseous soon after eating ...man it's so hard to eat this early! And I have to get use to it.:sigh:

Oh and got sop pics yesterday from a relative they just got this new baby boy!
Now everyone in the family got boys and girls but us.:sad:

Morning time eating is so hard for me too!!! I try my best eating before noon, lol.

I hope you will get your boy ((HUGS)) I can understand about the family thing or for me friends ..

[My Fabulous Children]

Flava you'll get used to it! Did you eat breakfast with your last sway? Did you ever get used to it then?

Spicy I'm so excited for you! Sounds like a great sway!

I am SO tired today. Glad I'm not really swaying hard yet because I am all kinds of hopped up on caffeine and sugar, LOL! For sure going to bed early tonight.

Hope you feel better soon Hun xxx

[My Fabulous Children]

Still very sore =( Hoping it eases up very soon or we will end up back in hospital again.

I hope your DD have a speedy and safe recovery. xx

[My Fabulous Children]

Just popping in to say AF has finally arrived cd 33 :sad: On to next month!

On a side note is anyone so sick of swaying but too scared to stop? Now don't get me wrong I won't mind another girl I just feel that without swaying I don't even have a 50/50 shot at a boy.

Me! I am SOOO sick of swaying ..but like you said scared to stop, but I might take a break. I totally understand with out swaying I don't even think I have a 50/50 shot at all .. I wish my boy was with out swaying.

[My Fabulous Children]

3PNB ..sorry to hear u got af :(

Flava.... i am also getting news " we are blessed with baby boy " on facebook daily... and i am only in my frs having 2 daughters but lots of couple having 2 dds in our complex..... last week i was in a park and can u believe i found 6 families with 2 dds and 1ds.. mostly have 2/3 boys or pp....i know i always look for family make ups :D

my dh gone mad, he started to tease me , like OH u r sitting on sofa not chair, does it sway blue ?? hey dont use black paper , first confirm it sways blue or pink?
which car sways blue ?
what type of dinner set sways blue ?
i really cant go out to shop with him, such an irritating guy now a days, he even not let me buy artificial floral , just coz we shud know it sways blue or not :s
and this all is for me , he himself runs with speed of 1000m/h from swaying :(

Light, your DH is SOOO funny, You guys are cracking me up!! :rofl:

[My Fabulous Children]

iluv & princes, Good luck on testing .. FX,FX!

iluv, 7-8dpo is too early but I can't blame you, I've POAS at 8dpo too, The web site says you can test as 6-8 days after conceieving, but I've never gotten one earlier than 10 or 11dpo.

[TTC5]

Hi Ladies

Well not sure where to begin but the last few days am having second thoughts on this =(
Anyone else been through this?

[ELP]

What are you having 2nd thoughts on 5???

[TTC5]

Trying this year :S
I am thinking maybe it is better for us to wait... I dunno... DH left work yesterday officially to go back to study so our finances are going to be heaps tough and we already found it hard as it is.. maybe I am being silly wanting another right now.. :(
Plus, my almost 3 y/o STILL wakes at night should I try and get her out of this before bringing another newborn in this home?
Add to it, we have 10 people in my home right now as Mum and my sister and 2 brothers are living with us - long story there but it could be months and months before they get their own home..

[daisyfay311]

♥ User Name--daisyfay311
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying cycle #1 May
♥ TTC DC #2, have a 2 1/2 year daughter
♥ Your approach to blue sway: bsd/cot drink from end of af to O, dietary changes for 6 weeks before attempt, lemon green tea with stevia, lots of fruit juice, dramatically increasing potassium intake, lot of sodium, eating breakfast, snacking several times a day, lots of fast food, cereal (Kashi, Wheaties), a lot less dairy than usual, EPO, fish oil, flaxseed oil, Vit E, some Vit D, L'Arginine, Gelatin capsules, Folic acid, lifting weights, O'ing almost right at full moon (for May at least), DTD around lots of electronics, using preseed maybe egg whites, using an OPK to pinpoint O, prayer...

[begonia]

TTC5 only you know what you can handle :heart: With your DD having been in the hospital this week as well as everything else it sounds like you have going on, I can completely see where you might re-evaluate the timing. Have you talked to DH about it?

MFC are you deciding to wait another cycle for more EWCM? It is so hard to pass a month up, isn't it?

AF was due today ... I had spotting yesterday and the day prior, and today nothing! So strange! Since we aren't TTC I am going to be ticked if we somehow got knocked up anyway :mad: I am sure it is just late. I added L'arg but have only taken it 3 days, I'd be surprised if it delayed my AF on that? Anyone have L'arg mess with their cycles? With the EPO I've still been like clockwork. We'll see ... maybe it'll start later today or tomorrow ... but usually the spotting turns into full AF, I don't usually stop spotting. I had much less spotting this time too. Hmmm :think:

[iluvmyman]

light you DH is funny lol tell him his bad attitude sways pink:wink:

Light, I was laughing when I read that too, and Flava you made me laugh as well. I'm sure it wouldn't be funny if it was me, but it's cute. Don't hate me for that Light. :)

[iluvmyman]

LOL! Does the car sway blue or pink :rofl:

This thread is cracking me up this morning!

iluv I can't believe you tested already ... I LOVE IT! I swear I'll POAS 3DPO! Lol. By the time our kids have kids they'll probably have an app to tell you if you're pregnant or not right after you BD. That would be such a sweet Mother's Day present! My DD2 was born Mother's Day weekend :heart:

Flava ITA that once you've got several of one gender there is probably *something* going on that is naturally swaying you that way. I don't think it is 50/50 for everyone.

:rofl:Oh my, are you girls all Cracking me up today!!! Flava, that was just an awesome comment.

But, but, but Begonia, the website said I could test that early. :rofl: I just couldn't resist POAS. Those prego test are so cheap too, they are just asking you to POAS early and often. :) You are so right about the app thing, wow, my side hurts from laughing. That's so fun having your DD2 on M-day weekend. Awww.

[iluvmyman]

iluv & princes, Good luck on testing .. FX,FX!

iluv, 7-8dpo is too early but I can't blame you, I've POAS at 8dpo too, The web site says you can test as 6-8 days after conceieving, but I've never gotten one earlier than 10 or 11dpo.

That does make me feel better, MFC. Thanks for the hope!

[iluvmyman]

Trying this year :S
I am thinking maybe it is better for us to wait... I dunno... DH left work yesterday officially to go back to study so our finances are going to be heaps tough and we already found it hard as it is.. maybe I am being silly wanting another right now.. :(
Plus, my almost 3 y/o STILL wakes at night should I try and get her out of this before bringing another newborn in this home?
Add to it, we have 10 people in my home right now as Mum and my sister and 2 brothers are living with us - long story there but it could be months and months before they get their own home..

Just don't let anyone influence you (not that you are)! This is between DH and yourself. I feel crazy ttc too and after the outing I had w/ my kids today (oh my!) I'm currently feeling like "what the heck am I thinking" (I bet some bystanders were thinking the same thing too:)). Too bad, doing it anyway :p

What does DH think? You have at least 9 months to get those peeps out of your home if you decide to go for it. :)

Your young and have time, so do whatever your heart is leading you to do.

Btw- we rent the upstairs from my parents and we don't have a lot of room either, our finances are always up and down and our 4 year old still comes into our bed....I'm with you girl, if I had more years I might wait a little but that just isn't the case. GL!

[iluvmyman]

AF was due today ... I had spotting yesterday and the day prior, and today nothing! So strange! Since we aren't TTC I am going to be ticked if we somehow got knocked up anyway :mad: I am sure it is just late. I added L'arg but have only taken it 3 days, I'd be surprised if it delayed my AF on that? Anyone have L'arg mess with their cycles? With the EPO I've still been like clockwork. We'll see ... maybe it'll start later today or tomorrow ... but usually the spotting turns into full AF, I don't usually stop spotting. I had much less spotting this time too. Hmmm :think:

Ooooh! Keep us posted. If you are prego, Begonia is OK if I giggle....just a little. :) It's like you plan and plan and plan but how much control do we have really? :)

[lightofmylife]

Light, I was laughing when I read that too, and Flava you made me laugh as well. I'm sure it wouldn't be funny if it was me, but it's cute. Don't hate me for that Light. :)
hahahha... i bear it innocently as it helps me to sway hard ;) , he is really a funny guy and i know he just does it for fun ..... but now i really should take action as it has become so severe that he asks me what dress color sways blue and what not?
if i wear pink he screams hey did u give up swaying, i said NO , then y you r wearing pink, i am sure pink doesnt sway blue :p

TTC5...i would suggest TTC when you are really ready and would be best time to bring baby.. just take time..3 month before i also had same thought and i decided to wait.... after giving up now i am ready to TTC in oct or nov.

[TTC5]

Just don't let anyone influence you (not that you are)! This is between DH and yourself. I feel crazy ttc too and after the outing I had w/ my kids today (oh my!) I'm currently feeling like "what the heck am I thinking" (I bet some bystanders were thinking the same thing too:)). Too bad, doing it anyway :p

What does DH think? You have at least 9 months to get those peeps out of your home if you decide to go for it. :)

Your young and have time, so do whatever your heart is leading you to do.

Btw- we rent the upstairs from my parents and we don't have a lot of room either, our finances are always up and down and our 4 year old still comes into our bed....I'm with you girl, if I had more years I might wait a little but that just isn't the case. GL!

This made me smile lol ;)

[My Fabulous Children]

TTC5, Talk to your DH and see what he think, Just do whatever you feel is best for you, I agree only you know what you can handle:agree::agree:

[My Fabulous Children]

MFC are you deciding to wait another cycle for more EWCM? It is so hard to pass a month up, isn't it?

Maybe I'll wait another cycle, Think I am ovulating late again..and that's because of L'arg!!! If I get more EWCM then I will go for it, but If my CM stays creamy then I'd rather wait ... I really hope not all of my hard work will be for nothing.


AF was due today ... I had spotting yesterday and the day prior, and today nothing! So strange! Since we aren't TTC I am going to be ticked if we somehow got knocked up anyway :mad: I am sure it is just late. I added L'arg but have only taken it 3 days, I'd be surprised if it delayed my AF on that? Anyone have L'arg mess with their cycles? With the EPO I've still been like clockwork. We'll see ... maybe it'll start later today or tomorrow ... but usually the spotting turns into full AF, I don't usually stop spotting. I had much less spotting this time too. Hmmm :think:

L'arg did mess with my cycle ..

[My Fabulous Children]

Just don't let anyone influence you (not that you are)! This is between DH and yourself. I feel crazy ttc too and after the outing I had w/ my kids today (oh my!) I'm currently feeling like "what the heck am I thinking" (I bet some bystanders were thinking the same thing too:)). Too bad, doing it anyway :p

What does DH think? You have at least 9 months to get those peeps out of your home if you decide to go for it. :)

Your young and have time, so do whatever your heart is leading you to do.

Btw- we rent the upstairs from my parents and we don't have a lot of room either, our finances are always up and down and our 4 year old still comes into our bed....I'm with you girl, if I had more years I might wait a little but that just isn't the case. GL!

I totally AGREE with you iluv, When I go out site with my kids ..OMG they drive me CRAZY!!! and I say ''what heck am I thinking'' really. I just want another boy so bad ..I love the relationship that my girls have with each other and would love to have that for my DS. And 2 of each would be very neat.

[iluvmyman]

TTC5, I'm glad u could smile and it seems like you have a lot on your plate! I feel ya, girl. )

[iluvmyman]

MFC, could you do the EW's if you don't have enough EWCM, and not have to miss a month? You might not want to risk it though.

[TTC5]

TTC5, Talk to your DH and see what he think, Just do whatever you feel is best for you, I agree only you know what you can handle:agree::agree:

I'm such a horrible wife! I took my mood out on dh and told him I did not want another and he got upset said he was just getting used to the idea of another one =(

I feel even more bad now!

Want to just go to sleep and wake up to a new day tomorrow.

[TTC5]

♥ User Name--daisyfay311
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying cycle #1 May
♥ TTC DC #2, have a 2 1/2 year daughter
♥ Your approach to blue sway: bsd/cot drink from end of af to O, dietary changes for 6 weeks before attempt, lemon green tea with stevia, lots of fruit juice, dramatically increasing potassium intake, lot of sodium, eating breakfast, snacking several times a day, lots of fast food, cereal (Kashi, Wheaties), a lot less dairy than usual, EPO, fish oil, flaxseed oil, Vit E, some Vit D, L'Arginine, Gelatin capsules, Folic acid, lifting weights, O'ing almost right at full moon (for May at least), DTD around lots of electronics, using preseed maybe egg whites, using an OPK to pinpoint O, prayer...

Adding you now!! =D

[iluvmyman]

I totally AGREE with you iluv, When I go out site with my kids ..OMG they drive me CRAZY!!! and I say ''what heck am I thinking'' really. I just want another boy so bad ..I love the relationship that my girls have with each other and would love to have that for my DS. And 2 of each would be very neat.

I'm so glad you understand me, I was out w/ my girlfriends today and said there is no way that I'm letting anyone know I'm a homeschooler cuz I will give homeschool a really bad name. They were crazy, wish I could say that isn't somewhat normal though. :) DD1 was so compliant and I was so good and was never an issue ever and did I have it together.....then came DD2. She's cute my Oh My is she difficult. I used to think DD1 was so good cuz I was such a good parent. HA!

It's so hard right now with the little ones and trying to keep the house clean (failing miserably, in case you were wondering :)), plus everything else on our plates. But when all is said and done, I couldn't imagine ever looking back and wishing we had less children. There is a season and this crazy one will pass. That's not to say I don't call my DH crying that I just can't do it all and the kids are ganging up on me. :)

I'm super sensitive this way, but I only have so many years to have children, then it's gone, gone. I'll never get the opportunity to help create a life, to feel a baby kick inside my stomach, to nurse, to hear my child call me mom for the 1st time.....you know what I mean. What a precious gift, and one I've taken for granted in some ways.

2 boys would be great fun. I want my son get to be a "big" brother again also. DS#1 is such a sensitive child in a good way and has always loved babies. He keeps DS2 alive in such neat and precious ways. After what we went through I think it will be so healing for all of us.

Keep having children MFC, as many as you and DH think you can handle. You can do it!!!

Man, I am always so long winded. Thanks for bearing w/ me. :)

[iluvmyman]

I'm such a horrible wife! I took my mood out on dh and told him I did not want another and he got upset said he was just getting used to the idea of another one =(

I feel even more bad now!

Want to just go to sleep and wake up to a new day tomorrow.

I'm sorry sweetie! Just give him a little smooch, take a bath and go to bed. He'll forgive you. A good night sleep will do you wonders or get a little break. My Frapps always make me a little happier. I put my DH through such torture w/ my hormones. LOL! When I'm pregnant I tell him to leave at least once. I hope you feel better tomorrow. I'll b prayin for ya!

[TTC5]

Thanks iluv =) xx

[babydes56]

Hi ladies i'm back after a month's break. I cant believe that so much has happened in a month. I see a lot of girls from IG have joined since i was away, welcome ladies! AF just came today so i'm on to the BSD/COT etc. I'm not planning on taking clomid this month because i usually ovulate on my own once i stop the pill so hoping to a natural ovulation. I will take clomid next month if this cycle doesnt work out for me.

I cant comment to all thread because so much has happened but i know Jen had bfn, sorry to hear. TTC5, hope your daughter's well. Congrats to Chunksta & GL to all the ladies in 2WW

[TTC5]

Welcome back babydes!

[begonia]

iluvmyman I am so glad you joined our little thread! You definitely bring some great encouragement and perspective, so thank you :-) And too funny ... I could have written the EXACT same thing re: my DD1 and DD2!

HUGS TTC5!! I am so sorry you're having a tough run love. I hope that today feels better for you. FWIW I got all kinds of mad at my DH yesterday and said the same thing about maybe we shouldn't have anymore. And he got pretty upset too. Which is funny b/c a year ago this was all me, wanting a third, and now I'd say it's more him. So I think it really hurt his feelings.

MFC thanks for sharing re: L'arg! I am dropping it. I really liked how regular my cycle was. I haven't had a cycle longer than 28 days in over a year, so this is definitely abnormal for me and since L'arg is the only change (I'd been taking fish oil and EPO for months) I think I'm just not going to do it. FX you get your boy ... ITA that if I have one boy I will wish for one more, just so he could have a brother. But DH is like, NO! THREE! THREE is it! LOL :-)

I hate not knowing when AF will arrive!!! Driving me crazy! We have a ton to do this weekend so I guess I'll just make sure I bring the necessary supplies everywhere we go in case the ol' witch shows up.

Lola I hope you're doing OK sweetheart! Just thinking about you so thought I'd give a shout out :-)

[begonia]

Oh and I meant to wave hi!!! to babydes! Glad to see you!

[TTC5]

Thanks Begonia!
I am feeling better emotionally but this darn flu has taken a hold of me, can't get to sleep and it is almost midnight ;(

[Flava]

Thanks Flava.

What does grapeseed do? And is it only for DW right?

I will order the wheat grass in capsule form, but next cycle ..I am now waiting to O.

grape seed is antioxidant it's for DH too. I also ordered the wheatgrass same thing what I have in powder but in gelatin capsules. So we just drink this until I got it.

[Flava]

Trying this year :S
I am thinking maybe it is better for us to wait... I dunno... DH left work yesterday officially to go back to study so our finances are going to be heaps tough and we already found it hard as it is.. maybe I am being silly wanting another right now.. :(
Plus, my almost 3 y/o STILL wakes at night should I try and get her out of this before bringing another newborn in this home?
Add to it, we have 10 people in my home right now as Mum and my sister and 2 brothers are living with us - long story there but it could be months and months before they get their own home..

omg you scared me now...almost 3 and waking up? What's gonna happen with my DD4?:worry:
You and DH should tell the family to try to move out soon...I would go crazy living with others :hair:
Sometimes I also think WTH Im doing TTC again? We are all alone , never any help , nothing. So it's hard with 4 kids. Besides it will be another girl anyway who am I kidding here , right?:think::sad:

[My Fabulous Children]

MFC, could you do the EW's if you don't have enough EWCM, and not have to miss a month? You might not want to risk it though.

I will use EW's any ways, but naturally EW would be better, It will make me feel more comfortable about my attempt, but I'm finally seeing some watery/EW CM ..I hope I am O'ing soon.

[My Fabulous Children]

I'm such a horrible wife! I took my mood out on dh and told him I did not want another and he got upset said he was just getting used to the idea of another one =(

I feel even more bad now!

Want to just go to sleep and wake up to a new day tomorrow.

So sorry TTC5! I hope your feeling better now ..and I'm sure your DH will understand and forgive you, XOXO

[mmsgirlie22]

Selfish little jerk monkey of a husband. Grrrrrrrrrr. We had a nice talk the other night that ended in tears(mine, not his). He basically told me that he didn't want anymore. That if we had another his life was basically over. All I heard of course was "me me me me me". I don't know what to think or do right now.

I'm sending out tons of blue dust and hugs to everyone, in case I don't pop in for awhile.

[TTC5]

Selfish little jerk monkey of a husband. Grrrrrrrrrr. We had a nice talk the other night that ended in tears(mine, not his). He basically told me that he didn't want anymore. That if we had another his life was basically over. All I heard of course was "me me me me me". I don't know what to think or do right now.

I'm sending out tons of blue dust and hugs to everyone, in case I don't pop in for awhile.

Oh no how hurtful =(

[TTC5]

omg you scared me now...almost 3 and waking up? What's gonna happen with my DD4?:worry:
You and DH should tell the family to try to move out soon...I would go crazy living with others :hair:
Sometimes I also think WTH Im doing TTC again? We are all alone , never any help , nothing. So it's hard with 4 kids. Besides it will be another girl anyway who am I kidding here , right?:think::sad:

I can't kick them out unfortunately.. Mum had to leave an abusive relationship and is not doing well at all she has had a breakdown, she has nothing but the suitcase they came with, suffers severe anxiety and depression. It isn't good at all =( We are all they have now and are trying to get her well again.

[mmsgirlie22]

Oh no how hurtful =(

Thanks sweetie. I have moments where i'm just in tears because it's so heartbreaking for me. He's being such an a$$ right now.

[TTC5]

FX it is just a phase and he will snap out of his tanty?!

[daisyfay311]

Selfish little jerk monkey of a husband. Grrrrrrrrrr. We had a nice talk the other night that ended in tears(mine, not his). He basically told me that he didn't want anymore. That if we had another his life was basically over. All I heard of course was "me me me me me". I don't know what to think or do right now.

I'm sending out tons of blue dust and hugs to everyone, in case I don't pop in for awhile.

Oh, that is so awful. I'm so sorry you are dealing with that. My DH goes on about how he wants a son and I cheerfully say I am up for having three if this sway comes out girl and he acts like three kids would be the worst thing that could ever happen to him. He has said the same thing as yours, that his life would just be over. I don't get it?! I just don't see how they can feel that way. Maybe he is just scared and overwhelmed about having another baby to care for? Worried the sway might not work? I hope he comes around.

And btw, I notice you are in Mississippi too!

[begonia]

Oh Mmsgirlie I am so sorry that happened! What changed his mind, he was on board when you got the IUD out right? Goodness. My bestie is in the same place with her DH now, too ... wanting a 3rd and him saying no more. It is SO hard. I hope he comes around to your side soon!

TTC5 I'm glad you're better emotionally! I do wonder if it had anything to do with the supps? Regardless I hope you can keep peace for yourself with all you have going on. You're a wonderful daughter and sibling to do what you're doing for your family.

Flava you've got a shot at a boy! It ain't over til it's over love and as long as you're willing to have more babies, you're ALWAYS going to have a chance at a son being one of them. I know what you're saying though ... I only have 2 daughters and there are days I feel like there's no way I can hope for a son. But more days than not I try to focus on the fact that it is POSSIBLE! Like Atomic says ... you have NO shot at your DG if you don't get pregnant.

This is really more a statement for another thread/part of the site but I'm too lazy so I'm going to vent here how much I LOATHE people who, when they find out I have 2 girls and want 1 more baby, say "Oh! You know, we would have had more if we had two of a kind too. But since we got one of each we're done." Like there's a "perfect" family and they have it and I don't. I want to dump my wine glass all over their laps. I don't think people realize how smug they sound about this topic so I don't say anything snarky in return .... but oh how I want to put them in their place!

[iluvmyman]

[QUOTE=mmsgirlie22;31703]Selfish little jerk monkey of a husband. Grrrrrrrrrr. We had a nice talk the other night that ended in tears(mine, not his). He basically told me that he didn't want anymore. That if we had another his life was basically over. All I heard of course was "me me me me me". I don't know what to think or do right now. /QUOTE]

Girlie, that's the best opening line I've ever heard! I am soooo sorry! You know I know how you feel and I'm sorry. I wish I could give you all the advice I was given but I can't remember it all. DH's work had a program for counseling and it might really help to get some advice like I did. When my DH finally jumped on board w/ this ttc, we were out of the house on a date, had some drinks and a great time, and the conversation went so much better. It might help just to get you both in a different element (we were out cuz our church was starting the book 10 great dates which has a really fun 1st assignment to talk about).

I hear a lot of men talk about their families being "complete" and not understanding why they need anymore DC. It's not a bad thing, and pretty common. It must stem from somewhere, though. Maybe if you go out on a date, have some drinks and relax you can get him to open up and really get to the deeper surface of why he thinks that. Like is it money, space, stress on him as a man, feeling like he can't stretch himself anymore, he's worried about your stress or doesn't get enough alone time w/ you as it is etc. Then, you can really see where his heart is, understand him and speak directly to his concerns. Men think so much differently then we do and they are not going to always understand this deep longing a lot of women have to help create life. This is a huge subject and we need to know where each other is truly at.You may have already done this though, and I get off my soapbox. :)

My counselor told me that for the sake of our marriage we really needed to come to some kind of middle ground. I was like there is no middle ground, either we do or we don't and someone has to lose. I can't say that he'll agree with you but let him know that he needs to just listen to you and see where you heart is.

A lot of men also seem to ask, "If I give you one more child, will that be enough or will we never be done", and you need to sort of think about that. Personally, my answer is, I'm not sure how I'll feel but I know that right now I am longing to do this again.

I'm thinking about you and I hope you will be OK. You might need to just give him a break for a couple weeks or month and bring it up again. When I was trying to convince DH for baby #4, he was saying no no no. I left it alone for a couple months and when I brought it up again he said yes. I heard him tell someone else that when I waited a while and brought it up again, he knew how important it was to me and that's when he agreed. FYI - I then decided I would be OK if he didn't want #4 and may have been pregnant even when I told him that. Oops! :)

Hope this helps a little. B prayin for you! :hugs:

[TTC5]

I have a feeling I may have ovulated TWICE this month... see my thread "help with crazy cycle" lol... I think it may have caused a sudden surge in hormones?

[iluvmyman]

iluvmyman I am so glad you joined our little thread! You definitely bring some great encouragement and perspective, so thank you :-) And too funny ... I could have written the EXACT same thing re: my DD1 and DD2!

Awwww you are too sweet. And to you, I really appreciate you, Begonia. You made me feel so welcome and at home when I was stressin about my sway. I'm so glad you are here and you are super down to earth!

I know I'm a little long winded and I try to be funny....I do get a lot of odd looks though, when I make little cracks in my day to day life. Good thing I don't have to see this groups odd looks when reading my posts, though, and I've yet to get the rollin eye emoticon so I'm feelin pretty good w/ my sarcasm so far here. :)

I appreciate this forum so much and love the women here. I guess having a lot of drama in your life gives you some perspective.....that, and like several years on most of these girls. :( LOL!

[iluvmyman]

This is really more a statement for another thread/part of the site but I'm too lazy so I'm going to vent here how much I LOATHE people who, when they find out I have 2 girls and want 1 more baby, say "Oh! You know, we would have had more if we had two of a kind too. But since we got one of each we're done." Like there's a "perfect" family and they have it and I don't. I want to dump my wine glass all over their laps. I don't think people realize how smug they sound about this topic so I don't say anything snarky in return .... but oh how I want to put them in their place!

Ohhhh, it's so nice that your life is so frickin' perfect! You have my permission to b**** slap the next person who says that to you. :)

[princessap]

Begonia I completely agree with you! My absolute worst comment I cannot stand is whenever someone I know IRL or facebook has a boy/girl family, they call it the million dollar family. It makes my skin crawl. My family is just as amazing with two DDs...it drives me crazy!!!

Iluvmyman...have you POAS yet? I am not sure when I will do it. Trying to wait and see if I miss AF but I dont think I have the
willpower. I am trying to think I am not pregnant so I am not disappointed. Man this was easier when I wasnt tracking everything!!

Good luck to anyone else in 2ww.

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman...have you POAS yet? I am not sure when I will do it. Trying to wait and see if I miss AF but I dont think I have the
willpower. I am trying to think I am not pregnant so I am not disappointed. Man this was easier when I wasnt tracking everything!!

Good luck to anyone else in 2ww.

Really!? The million Dollar family! who came up with the stupid saying? You can have a "million dollar family" and be miserable. That's so dumb! Why does our society continue to set these unreachable precedents! The people who coined that phrase are probably the same people that think you shouldn't have more than 2-3 children.

Princess, I did POAS a few days ago (BFN) and will POAS in the morning but I really don't think I'll get a BFP. I think tomorrow will be 11dpo. I should start AF on Wed but there is NO WAY I can wait that long. You should POAS in the morning w/ me. :)

OK Begonia, I know you see right through me. I did POAS this morning (I couldn't help myself) and it's still negative. I'm bummed cuz I don't want to eat the diet anymore. I've been drinking carmel frapps again and I feel guilty either way and I don't want to do the diet again. It's so all consuming for me (everything but the kitchen sink of coarse). I like milk, and sour cream gosh darn it! :) I wasn't really prepared for this to take longer than a month once we tried.

I really don't know how people do this for so long, but I know i will cuz I really, really want this! :) Ok, I'm done w/ my fit now. I really doubt I'll get a BFP in the morning. :tissue: :bigsmile:

[My Fabulous Children]

Hey babydes! Welcome back hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

iluvmyman I am so glad you joined our little thread! You definitely bring some great encouragement and perspective, so thank you :-) And too funny ... I could have written the EXACT same thing re: my DD1 and DD2!

HUGS TTC5!! I am so sorry you're having a tough run love. I hope that today feels better for you. FWIW I got all kinds of mad at my DH yesterday and said the same thing about maybe we shouldn't have anymore. And he got pretty upset too. Which is funny b/c a year ago this was all me, wanting a third, and now I'd say it's more him. So I think it really hurt his feelings.

MFC thanks for sharing re: L'arg! I am dropping it. I really liked how regular my cycle was. I haven't had a cycle longer than 28 days in over a year, so this is definitely abnormal for me and since L'arg is the only change (I'd been taking fish oil and EPO for months) I think I'm just not going to do it. FX you get your boy ... ITA that if I have one boy I will wish for one more, just so he could have a brother. But DH is like, NO! THREE! THREE is it! LOL :-)

I hate not knowing when AF will arrive!!! Driving me crazy! We have a ton to do this weekend so I guess I'll just make sure I bring the necessary supplies everywhere we go in case the ol' witch shows up.

Lola I hope you're doing OK sweetheart! Just thinking about you so thought I'd give a shout out :-)

I'm dropping L'arg too!!! Good to hear that the EPO didn't change your cycle I might try it next time ..

[My Fabulous Children]

Selfish little jerk monkey of a husband. Grrrrrrrrrr. We had a nice talk the other night that ended in tears(mine, not his). He basically told me that he didn't want anymore. That if we had another his life was basically over. All I heard of course was "me me me me me". I don't know what to think or do right now.

I'm sending out tons of blue dust and hugs to everyone, in case I don't pop in for awhile.

How sad :sad: I am so sorry girl. I really hope your DH change his mind. Talk to him only in the right time. Take care. ((HUGS))

[My Fabulous Children]

I can't kick them out unfortunately.. Mum had to leave an abusive relationship and is not doing well at all she has had a breakdown, she has nothing but the suitcase they came with, suffers severe anxiety and depression. It isn't good at all =( We are all they have now and are trying to get her well again.

Wow ..Its hard. You are a good daughter for helping your mom and I hope she can find place soon? What does she plan on doing, 10 people living in the same house I would go crazy. I really hope your mom gets better very soon. XOXO

[TTC5]

Make that 11 now, my sister is coming too. that is another long story.
Mum is up and down right now, but I have a few appointments for her with social worker, drs and public housing to help us out.

I'd rather live squashed and have my Mum better in the long run, just a small sacrifice to pay for a woman who spent many years raising me and going without herself.

[babydes56]

Hey babydes! Welcome back hun.

Thanks hun, i needed the break. Been trying for over year, it's been hard on me

[babydes56]

Make that 11 now, my sister is coming too. that is another long story.
Mum is up and down right now, but I have a few appointments for her with social worker, drs and public housing to help us out.

I'd rather live squashed and have my Mum better in the long run, just a small sacrifice to pay for a woman who spent many years raising me and going without herself.


TTC5, you a good daughter! Hope you find your mom housing etc soon. 11 people in the house, wow! If you dont mind me asking how do you dtd when there's so many people around, haha!!

[babydes56]

Begonia I completely agree with you! My absolute worst comment I cannot stand is whenever someone I know IRL or facebook has a boy/girl family, they call it the million dollar family. It makes my skin crawl. My family is just as amazing with two DDs...it drives me crazy!!!

Iluvmyman...have you POAS yet? I am not sure when I will do it. Trying to wait and see if I miss AF but I dont think I have the
willpower. I am trying to think I am not pregnant so I am not disappointed. Man this was easier when I wasnt tracking everything!!

Good luck to anyone else in 2ww.

I'm trying to catch up with you all so sorry for the many posts. Princessap, when are you testing? Are you the only one in the 2ww, please update me, thanks

[babydes56]

Anyone heard from Lola lately? AF seems really light for me i wonder if it's all the supplements i'm taking.

[babydes56]

Really!? The million Dollar family! who came up with the stupid saying? You can have a "million dollar family" and be miserable. That's so dumb! Why does our society continue to set these unreachable precedents! The people who coined that phrase are probably the same people that think you shouldn't have more than 2-3 children.

Princess, I did POAS a few days ago (BFN) and will POAS in the morning but I really don't think I'll get a BFP. I think tomorrow will be 11dpo. I should start AF on Wed but there is NO WAY I can wait that long. You should POAS in the morning w/ me. :)

OK Begonia, I know you see right through me. I did POAS this morning (I couldn't help myself) and it's still negative. I'm bummed cuz I don't want to eat the diet anymore. I've been drinking carmel frapps again and I feel guilty either way and I don't want to do the diet again. It's so all consuming for me (everything but the kitchen sink of coarse). I like milk, and sour cream gosh darn it! :) I wasn't really prepared for this to take longer than a month once we tried.

I really don't know how people do this for so long, but I know i will cuz I really, really want this! :) Ok, I'm done w/ my fit now. I really doubt I'll get a BFP in the morning. :tissue: :bigsmile:

Sorry for bfn, you only out when AF arrives so keep checking. Can you imagine how i feel about the diet, i've been trying for over a year, this time last yr i had a m/c & have tried to have a baby since with no luck. Been seeing fertility doc who put me on clomid which i know sways girl but what can i do i just want a baby now. I'm 38 so that's another worry, we'll see how this yr goes.

Another thing is the money i've spent on all supplements etc over the year, it's hard. I miss eating yoghurt & cheese & am really tired of diet but i have to keep on doing it. I think i'll be really p*ssed off if after all this diet for a year & all the money i've spent i get a girl....oh well at least i'd have tried

[princessap]

Babydes...I think it is just me and Iluv that are in 2ww. I am not testing until AF is late (fingers crossed she is). I am trying not to get excited about a BFP and be disappointed if it is BFN. So I am thinking I am not pregnant and hoping for the best. Make sense??

[princessap]

Happy Mother's Day Ladies!!

[babydes56]

GL, any symptoms?

[princessap]

a little bit of cramping on 7dpo and nothing since.

[babydes56]

That could have been implanting cramps, they usually happen around that time. Do you temp?

[iluvmyman]

OK, this is dpo11 w/ a high quality prego test and I got a BFN. I'm calling it! AF should start Wednesday. Bummer!

Princess, did you POAS this morning?

[lightofmylife]

I'm dropping L'arg too!!! Good to hear that the EPO didn't change your cycle I might try it next time ..
ohhh then what u ll take in place of this ?? this messed up my cycle too . i m just feeling i didnt O this month, i usually O on cd14,15 but i didnt ve +opk till cd 19 :(
should i take L-cart ?? EPO dries me up :(

[TTC5]

Wow does EPO dry you up, I thought it was meant to do the opposite? xx
Bummer about the bfn iluv =(

[TTC5]

TTC5, you a good daughter! Hope you find your mom housing etc soon. 11 people in the house, wow! If you dont mind me asking how do you dtd when there's so many people around, haha!!

Well right now, very very hard lol so not much action haha

[TTC5]

Anyone heard from Lola lately? AF seems really light for me i wonder if it's all the supplements i'm taking.

Not lately but hope she is ok too xxxx
What supps are you taking?

[TTC5]

a little bit of cramping on 7dpo and nothing since.

FX!

[princessap]

thanks. Havent tested as I started cramping tonight so think I am out :(
My BFF cramped the week before she got her BFP so she is trying to keep me positive. But I think I am out. Only good thing is my cervix is unreachable it is so high which can sometimes mean pregnancy right??

[lightofmylife]

i am not sure IF really it was EPO as the month i used it i lost all my EWCM... next month i left it and got good amount , but now again no EWCM and O :( hope this cycle would be good.
iluvmyman.....im sooo sorry u didnt get BFP ... but i think u r in the game .

[iluvmyman]

Sorry for bfn, you only out when AF arrives so keep checking. Can you imagine how i feel about the diet, i've been trying for over a year, this time last yr i had a m/c & have tried to have a baby since with no luck. Been seeing fertility doc who put me on clomid which i know sways girl but what can i do i just want a baby now. I'm 38 so that's another worry, we'll see how this yr goes.

Another thing is the money i've spent on all supplements etc over the year, it's hard. I miss eating yoghurt & cheese & am really tired of diet but i have to keep on doing it. I think i'll be really p*ssed off if after all this diet for a year & all the money i've spent i get a girl....oh well at least i'd have tried

I can't imagine doing this for a year! I think it's more of the mental strain that goes into this rather than the diet itself for me. I'm 35 and there is definilty a bigger rush then in my 20's. So sorry to hear about your m/c, that is so rough. :( Our son died in December, the day he was born, and at this point we have no idea why. It's certainly put having children in a new perspective. This has managed to be a pretty big investment somehow, just seems to add up.

I really had no calcium much during the 2 months or so when starting to sway but not sure how much going forward I'm going to avoid dairy. I think I feel like if I'm not unhappy swaying then I'm not swaying hard enough. After my BFN, I'm re-evaluating my sway. I've totally blown the dairy in the 2WW for sure anyway, and it'll be only 2 more weeks before it's time to try again.

If it came to a year, I think I might have to really evaluate where I'm at on swaying for a boy or just getting pregnant. There's still always a 50/50, right? I've read about clomid swaying girl and twins!

Have you tried both EW's and/or Pre-seed? I'd love to pick your brain on what your thoughts are on the different sway options. I think at this point I'm still going to sway for boy but in the end, I'd really love to just have the blessing of another child. Of coarse this is only talk, who knows. I was bummed to get a BFN regardless of wether a BFP was a boy or girl. I don't know, less options when I'm in my mid-30's.

[iluvmyman]

thanks. Havent tested as I started cramping tonight so think I am out :(
My BFF cramped the week before she got her BFP so she is trying to keep me positive. But I think I am out. Only good thing is my cervix is unreachable it is so high which can sometimes mean pregnancy right??

I sure hope you are not out of the game, too. Still gonna wait to test till you miss AF? You have amazing will power. :) I know we have till we get AF to know for sure, but I'm not feeling it either.

Thanks, light, TTC5 and everyone for the encouragment

[princessap]

I may test tomorrow. Trying to have will power but dont know if I can do it! LOL
Weird thing happened last night.....I woke up around 3 to pee and sat by the toilet for about ten minutes thinking I was going to vomit. Came back to bed and was talking to DH and he said "maybe you are pregnant!" I didnt eat much last night so dont think it is anything I ate. so what do u think??

I hear you girls about being 35. I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your son. Big hugs to you. I cannot imagine how painful that must have (still is) been.
I am 35 and just want to be pregnant now too. I think things change with age and the loss of a child. Hoping for BFP for you!!!

[Flava]

mm I hope your DH change . Kids are not the end of the world.
ttc5 sorry about your mom! hope they can find a safe place soon.
begonia Im really thinking not to ttc and not have any more kids...Im not willing to have babys after babys until I get a boy. We are already over limit we don't have much place and money... I know atomic says it's 50/50 every time but I don't believe that. I have 4 girls 2 was a sway...doesn't look like 50/50 to me.

I also hate to be on the diet long so Im taking it easy for now and eat some cheese and so.

Hope the ladies in the 2ww get a bfp!

[babydes56]

I can't imagine doing this for a year! I think it's more of the mental strain that goes into this rather than the diet itself for me. I'm 35 and there is definilty a bigger rush then in my 20's. So sorry to hear about your m/c, that is so rough. :( Our son died in December, the day he was born, and at this point we have no idea why. It's certainly put having children in a new perspective. This has managed to be a pretty big investment somehow, just seems to add up.

I really had no calcium much during the 2 months or so when starting to sway but not sure how much going forward I'm going to avoid dairy. I think I feel like if I'm not unhappy swaying then I'm not swaying hard enough. After my BFN, I'm re-evaluating my sway. I've totally blown the dairy in the 2WW for sure anyway, and it'll be only 2 more weeks before it's time to try again.

If it came to a year, I think I might have to really evaluate where I'm at on swaying for a boy or just getting pregnant. There's still always a 50/50, right? I've read about clomid swaying girl and twins!

Have you tried both EW's and/or Pre-seed? I'd love to pick your brain on what your thoughts are on the different sway options. I think at this point I'm still going to sway for boy but in the end, I'd really love to just have the blessing of another child. Of coarse this is only talk, who knows. I was bummed to get a BFN regardless of wether a BFP was a boy or girl. I don't know, less options when I'm in my mid-30's.

Sorry to hear about your son, i have been catching up with the posts & did come across the one you wrote about your son. You are a really positive person, good for you! Also sorry about bfn.

Yep i've been at it for a year but have only taken clomid once & have two more goes of it until we look at some other avenues. I always cheat in the 2ww & to be honest i am more relaxed about the diet than when i started, the reason i dont have much dairy is because i'm trying to do different things to when i conceived my girls.

I tried EW & wot a mess so i wont be doing that, i'm actually going to try preseed with bs this time around. I'm hear you about just wanting to be preg now but i also know that once i'm preg i'll start obsessing about the son i've always longed for so for now i'll do wot i can to help me get one & if it fails then i know that i did my best

[babydes56]

Not lately but hope she is ok too xxxx
What supps are you taking?

I hope she's ok too! I'm taking Q10, zinc, selenium, folic acid, fish oil, l-arginine, vit d3, potassium, b12, wheatgrass, green magma, acv, nyf

I have just started the BSD/COT, gelatin. I noticed that your ph was really good, that's great news what are you taking because although i've been at it for a year mine's still 5

[babydes56]

I may test tomorrow. Trying to have will power but dont know if I can do it! LOL
Weird thing happened last night.....I woke up around 3 to pee and sat by the toilet for about ten minutes thinking I was going to vomit. Came back to bed and was talking to DH and he said "maybe you are pregnant!" I didnt eat much last night so dont think it is anything I ate. so what do u think??

I hear you girls about being 35. I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your son. Big hugs to you. I cannot imagine how painful that must have (still is) been.
I am 35 and just want to be pregnant now too. I think things change with age and the loss of a child. Hoping for BFP for you!!!

Sounds very promising!! Waking up to pee at 3am is an early sign of preg, FX for tomorrow

[Flava]

baby what is the selenium good for ? I have no info about that. And the D3? I learned that it's very good for depression but why for ttc?

[Flava]

Any one have info about MACA yet??? I read somewhere it may be not for ttc blue...atomic said she do research about it but I don't think she did yet.

[Flava]

find this in one of atomic post


Y sperm and lighter and thus, faster
The proportion of X and Y (male) bearing sperm in semen are equal. But male embryos and fetuses have a higher risk of dying in the womb. Consequently, scientists have been trying to find out why there are more male babies. Dr Smits and his team say their work supports the theory that conception depends on how viscous, or "sticky", the mucus in a woman's cervix is. The stickier it is, the harder it is for any sperm to get through. But Y bearing sperm are lighter(2% smaller), and swim faster. Therefore, if a woman takes longer to get pregnant, it may be that she has thicker than usual mucus. This would mean it is harder for any sperm to get through, so conception takes longer. And, when it does happen, it is more likely to have a boy because of male sperm's swimming abilities. Dr Smits said: "Women whose cervical mucus is relatively viscous would not only have more difficulties conceiving naturally, but also have a higher probability of male offspring if they do get pregnant. "This may explain why there is a higher chance, in general, of having boys."

ok I don't get it:suprise: we suppose to have lot's of ewcm for a boy right? But this here says the more sticky you have the higher a chance to have a boy?
Or it's just only if you always have sticky CM then you chance is higher for a boy but of course the best is to have ewcm?

[Flava]

Hey girls read this (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1863-interesting-info-about-improving-sperm-count-and-male-factor-infertility) Im thinking to get this type of CoQ-10 ! What do you think??

[iluvmyman]

I may test tomorrow. Trying to have will power but dont know if I can do it! LOL
Weird thing happened last night.....I woke up around 3 to pee and sat by the toilet for about ten minutes thinking I was going to vomit. Came back to bed and was talking to DH and he said "maybe you are pregnant!" I didnt eat much last night so dont think it is anything I ate. so what do u think??

I hear you girls about being 35. I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your son. Big hugs to you. I cannot imagine how painful that must have (still is) been.
I am 35 and just want to be pregnant now too. I think things change with age and the loss of a child. Hoping for BFP for you!!!

Ooo, you are 35 too. So cool. That could totally be a good sign for you. There are 2 really good ways to find out. :) I feel sick and emotional when I'm overtired and I just get mean when I don't eat. :)

Can't wait to hear and 1 of us needs to have a BFP, so it's up to you. :)

[babydes56]

baby what is the selenium good for ? I have no info about that. And the D3? I learned that it's very good for depression but why for ttc?

I had a miscarriage & was told to take Q10, zinc & selenium because they supposed to help with future preg. Vit D3 apparently raises testosterone

[princessap]

Thanks girls. I am not optimistic anymore. some mild cramping today :(
I have a cyst on my left ovary and feel some pain there too, all not good signs.

Probably wont test tomorrow. Will wait and see if Af shows on thursday or not.

is anyone else left in 2ww??

[Alexis2007]

Could you add me also:

♥ User Name: Alexis2007
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW! (TTC at the end of June)
♥ TTC DC # 3
♥ Your approach to blue sway:Alkaline/Boy diet
Lots of potassium: potatoes, tomatoes, bananas, raisins, orange juice 3 cups 3x per day, lemon juice in all of my water (drink about 160+oz of lemon water per day). Lots of fruits and veggies. I salt everything I can. Oatmeal everyday for breakfast with added raisins. Do the BSD AF-O (1/2tsp in 4oz water 3x a day). Take Prenatals, Extra 3,000 folic acid, EPO AF-O 3x a day, Vitamin b6 150mg everyday, Fish oil. Will start Robitussin and Soy Isoflavones on ttc cycle in June. Also will start drinking V8 Spicy Hot low sodium on ttc cycle.

[Flava]

I had a miscarriage & was told to take Q10, zinc & selenium because they supposed to help with future preg. Vit D3 apparently raises testosterone

I did not know that about the D3 ! maybe I get it too, tnx. Is this for DH too?

[My Fabulous Children]

Make that 11 now, my sister is coming too. that is another long story.
Mum is up and down right now, but I have a few appointments for her with social worker, drs and public housing to help us out.

I'd rather live squashed and have my Mum better in the long run, just a small sacrifice to pay for a woman who spent many years raising me and going without herself.

11 CRAZY!!! I can't handle that. I would take care of my mom, but my brother & sisters welcome only for few days. I can't handle it for a long time because I have a husband & kids. Good luck, I hope all goes well with her appointment.

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks hun, i needed the break. Been trying for over year, it's been hard on me

I understand that. It's gonna be almost a year for me:( so I am thinking about taking break too. ((HUGS)) Hope you get your BFP very soon hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

OK, this is dpo11 w/ a high quality prego test and I got a BFN. I'm calling it! AF should start Wednesday. Bummer!

Princess, did you POAS this morning? So sorry Hun, ((HUGS)). Good luck on trying again!!

[My Fabulous Children]

ohhh then what u ll take in place of this ?? this messed up my cycle too . i m just feeling i didnt O this month, i usually O on cd14,15 but i didnt ve +opk till cd 19 :(
should i take L-cart ?? EPO dries me up :(

Still waiting for O ...I will NEVER take L'rg again. I don't think its helping me to get more CM, but it messed up my cycle. I'll just take Mucinex also fish oil It's supposed to help making more CM.

[My Fabulous Children]

Wow does EPO dry you up, I thought it was meant to do the opposite? xx
Bummer about the bfn iluv =(

EPO can do the opposite for some people!

[My Fabulous Children]

I had a miscarriage & was told to take Q10, zinc & selenium because they supposed to help with future preg. Vit D3 apparently raises testosterone

I remmeber one of our BC girl had two m/c so she found the taking supplements like :Q10, selenium can help with future pregnancy. She got pregnant with healthy baby boy.

[My Fabulous Children]

Happy Mother Day Everyone!
To the ladies in their 2ww Good Luck.

[iluvmyman]

Begonia, where r u?

[TTC5]

11 CRAZY!!! I can't handle that. I would take care of my mom, but my brother & sisters welcome only for few days. I can't handle it for a long time because I have a husband & kids. Good luck, I hope all goes well with her appointment.

Yeah my siblings are only children themselves so cant boot them either :(

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Sorry I have been MIA. I am 5DPO. Today I almost vomited, a wave of nausea came upon me, and I have had no time to think about the tww since we are so busy around here. I also have terrible MS during my pgs. Anyone else notice this?

[TTC5]

Sorry I have been MIA. I am 5DPO. Today I almost vomited, a wave of nausea came upon me, and I have had no time to think about the tww since we are so busy around here. I also have terrible MS during my pgs. Anyone else notice this?

FX =)

[TTC5]

Hi ladies, I think I am going to put my sway on hold... too much stress around here right now =(

[LolaInLove]

Hey girls, been working a ton the last week and had no time to get online. TTC5, so sorry you have so many squatters and life is stressful....waiting till they go may be a good idea. Hopefully, at least, they are helping you around the house and with kids so you are not doing everything. I know how worn out I get when I have family in town staying with me....constantly washing towels and cleaning up, it is exhausting. I hope your mom is doing better. HUGS!

KFX for you ladies in the 2ww now....Spicy, barfing may be a welcome although uncomfortable sign, right! And Luv, you are getting near testing time too, if I remember correctly. (I just read through about 20 pages!). FXFXFX!

3PNB, sorry it wasn't your month, hun. I know how much it sucks to have to move on to the next one. Hope you are doing alright!

I doubt I can address everyone here, mostly because I'm tired and can't remember much.....but just hoping everyone is doing ok. And welcome to the new girls!

As for me, like I said, working a ton, which has taken my mind off of stuff a bit. I've just been kind of blah lately, and still not a huge appetite. I am just so sick of being heavier than usual. I think we will still go with ttc again in August, so I am planning on taking May to just relax. We're starting to take the antioxidant supps like Babydes was talking about this week, but I'm not doing anything until we are 6 weeks out. I can't believe that August will be one year of swaying for us, too.....with lots of bumps in the road. It is hard to keep up with swaying when it's been this long. I pulled an opk out this morning because, technically, I am on CD15 (although days 1-8 were m/c) but I felt a twinge in my ovary (the left one where they say some follies coming about at my ultrasound last week). It was interesting to know that I ovulated from the right because there was still a corpus luteum there and they saw the left with follies, so I kinda know what track I'm on, ovary-wise. Anyway, I almost cried when I got that damn opk out, just thinking HOW MANY OF THESE have I taken in the last 9 months? Good grief, I've probably spent a good thousand or more dollars on opks and hpts and supps and preseed. But, (and here is my positive part!), it will all be good if I ever get pregnant and actually have a healthy baby. Honestly, at this point, I don't even care what we get, too.

So, hope you are all well, am keeping up with everyone even if not posting frequently. XOXO

[babydes56]

Glad to see you back! I think the break will do you some good because it certainly has done so for me. Talk about the money we've spent swaying, dont wanna think about it. How much does Q10 cost in the US, it isnt cheap in the UK. Oh the other thing i read on IG was that magnesium was very important for a healthy preg. There was a debate about whether someone trying to have a boy should take it & a lady went on to say that she had recurrent m/c's so she took it but did all other sway factors & went on to have a healthy baby boy

Actually logged onto IG today & saw that i had a 1yr anniversary mesg & it just made me sad thinking that it's been a whole yr since my m/c & that i havent managed to fall preg since that time.. I really hope that this yr has some good news for us Lola because if nothing happens i'm not going to carry on, i just cant keep doing that to myself. I dont know how to tell DH that this is how i'm feeling because he really wants another child & i know he'll be upset. I can only hope that it doesnt come to that

[My Fabulous Children]

Sorry I have been MIA. I am 5DPO. Today I almost vomited, a wave of nausea came upon me, and I have had no time to think about the tww since we are so busy around here. I also have terrible MS during my pgs. Anyone else notice this?

FX!! Good luck.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies, I think I am going to put my sway on hold... too much stress around here right now =( Sorry to hear that TTC5! You know what's good for you sweetie ;)

[begonia]

Begonia, where r u?

For real! I have MISSED my crew! I had zero time to pop on this weekend and DD2 turned 2 yesterday so I was a super good Mama and spent all my time fawning over her. I love this age. I confess I am not a "baby person" so much as I am a 1+ year old fan. I just adore hanging out with them when they are little people with thoughts they try to get out. Super cute.

Iluv ITA that if my sway isn't making me miserable I feel like it isn't working, LOL! Must.change.everything. Anyhow, I did get AF on Saturday so HOORAY! Never been so happy to see it! I am so bummed this appears to have not been the lucky month for you though. I guess the bright side is you can take some of those lessons learned from round 1 and maybe have a better go this month. FX! Anyhow did y'all like the 10 great dates series? I know a bit about it but we haven't done it.

Babydes I didn't realize it had been a year for you! I wouldn't fret a bit about Clomid; I am sure I'm not the only one who has friends who have boys conceived while on Clomid.

TTC5, love, you are in a tough spot right now! Wow. I hope as MFC said they at least help out a bit. Hope things go well for your Mom and siblings and they can be back on their own soon.

Flava are you seriously dropping out or just having one of those days? Believe me, I think if I swayed as hard as you did and still got another DD I'd struggle with trying again too. But I'm also totally the type of person that believes everything is possible ... so maybe, just maybe, #5 could be it for you? My FIL is the 5th of 10; his mom had 4 girls before him, and then 3 more boys after him. Crazy. Anyhow I am with you on the drawing a line somewhere, and I know for sure 3 is my end point. Even if I knew it would be another girl at this point I'm convinced our family is supposed to have one more, so I'm going for it. Even if you don't sway again please stay around to hang out!

Lola happy to see you pop on! We can try together in August :-) And ITA with your positive end point ... when you are holding that healthy little baby you are going to cherish him or her after all this.

Spicy FX for you!

[My Fabulous Children]

Lola, Glad to see you back sweetie! I think it is good to wait until August. Would be good to give your self a break from swaying. As far as the money..I spent A LOT of money!! Swaying supplements, etc it's too expensive. I've been buying all the stuff since June 2010 :( I'm tired. I'm thinking about taking break too.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks for the luv eveyone. Well, I remember Phoenix on IG told me she took a break and it was the best thing for her, because when she started swaying again, she went full out and got her little man. I think it will do us good, us long timers!!!! Happy 2nd to your little chica, Begonia!

[iluvmyman]

Sorry I have been MIA. I am 5DPO. Today I almost vomited, a wave of nausea came upon me, and I have had no time to think about the tww since we are so busy around here. I also have terrible MS during my pgs. Anyone else notice this?

I sure hope you get a BFP!

[iluvmyman]

KFX for you ladies in the 2ww now....Spicy, barfing may be a welcome although uncomfortable sign, right! And Luv, you are getting near testing time too, if I remember correctly. (I just read through about 20 pages!). FXFXFX!

As for me, like I said, working a ton, which has taken my mind off of stuff a bit. I've just been kind of blah lately, and still not a huge appetite. I am just so sick of being heavier than usual. I think we will still go with ttc again in August, so I am planning on taking May to just relax. We're starting to take the antioxidant supps like Babydes was talking about this week, but I'm not doing anything until we are 6 weeks out. I can't believe that August will be one year of swaying for us, too.....with lots of bumps in the road. It is hard to keep up with swaying when it's been this long. I pulled an opk out this morning because, technically, I am on CD15 (although days 1-8 were m/c) but I felt a twinge in my ovary (the left one where they say some follies coming about at my ultrasound last week). It was interesting to know that I ovulated from the right because there was still a corpus luteum there and they saw the left with follies, so I kinda know what track I'm on, ovary-wise. Anyway, I almost cried when I got that damn opk out, just thinking HOW MANY OF THESE have I taken in the last 9 months? Good grief, I've probably spent a good thousand or more dollars on opks and hpts and supps and preseed. But, (and here is my positive part!), it will all be good if I ever get pregnant and actually have a healthy baby. Honestly, at this point, I don't even care what we get, too.

So, hope you are all well, am keeping up with everyone even if not posting frequently. XOXO

It's a BFN for me, Lola. A Big Fat Negative! I'm gonna try this month but I was sooo good last sway and totally blew it in the 2ww. Oh well, I just don't think I'm willing to wait till next month for the diet again.

I wish I had some advice to make it better for you, Lola. I can totally understand just wanting to get BFP at this point. Sounds like you are burnt and hurting. You and your body have been through a lot and I do want you to know that I have been praying for you.

Not sure if Mother's Day was a emotional for you as it was for me. I was hoping a BFP would make things feel a little more fair, but that's just not the way it works, is it.

Thinking about you, babe

[My Fabulous Children]

Iluvmyman, I'm sorry about the BFN :( but it's not over until AF shows her ugly head And, hopefully, she won't!!!

How many DPO are you now?

[iluvmyman]

For real! I have MISSED my crew! I had zero time to pop on this weekend and DD2 turned 2 yesterday so I was a super good Mama and spent all my time fawning over her. I love this age. I confess I am not a "baby person" so much as I am a 1+ year old fan. I just adore hanging out with them when they are little people with thoughts they try to get out. Super cute.

Iluv ITA that if my sway isn't making me miserable I feel like it isn't working, LOL! Must.change.everything. Anyhow, I did get AF on Saturday so HOORAY! Never been so happy to see it! I am so bummed this appears to have not been the lucky month for you though. I guess the bright side is you can take some of those lessons learned from round 1 and maybe have a better go this month. FX! Anyhow did y'all like the 10 great dates series? I know a bit about it but we haven't done it.

Babydes I didn't realize it had been a year for you! I wouldn't fret a bit about Clomid; I am sure I'm not the only one who has friends who have boys conceived while on Clomid.

TTC5, love, you are in a tough spot right now! Wow. I hope as MFC said they at least help out a bit. Hope things go well for your Mom and siblings and they can be back on their own soon.

Flava are you seriously dropping out or just having one of those days? Believe me, I think if I swayed as hard as you did and still got another DD I'd struggle with trying again too. But I'm also totally the type of person that believes everything is possible ... so maybe, just maybe, #5 could be it for you? My FIL is the 5th of 10; his mom had 4 girls before him, and then 3 more boys after him. Crazy. Anyhow I am with you on the drawing a line somewhere, and I know for sure 3 is my end point. Even if I knew it would be another girl at this point I'm convinced our family is supposed to have one more, so I'm going for it. Even if you don't sway again please stay around to hang out!

Lola happy to see you pop on! We can try together in August :-) And ITA with your positive end point ... when you are holding that healthy little baby you are going to cherish him or her after all this.

Spicy FX for you!

Congrats on Birthday #2 for you DD! I can't go with you on the infant thing. Sometimes I joke that I'd love more babies just not more children. :) It's a joke, no one get made at me. :) I l-o-v-e babies, I want to eat them with a spoon for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Although, I believe they can improve a little on the whole sleeping through the night thing, then they'd be perfect. :)

Darn it, Begonia!! I really wanted a little giggle if you got a BFP, you are taking all of my fun away. So are gonna give it a go this month too or wait till August? I really messed up in the 2ww, but won't wait till June. I really wanted to have a new baby close to DS2's birth in December. This month would push us into February already. Too close to girl territory for me if I don't get a BFP this month then I'll have to re-evaluate when to ttc again. I doubt I'll give it up though and wait till the Spring again, I'm too old and need to, you know what or get off the pot.

10 Great Dates is OK. Our 3rd date is on Saturday and I haven't looked at the lesson yet. 1st date was amazing, 2nd I didn't love the questions. Hey, if it gets you on a scheduled date with DH, it's worth it and it gives you some things to talk about that aren't revolved around work and kids. I like it.

Seems like lots of people are on Clomid, even people who don't seem to have been ttc for very long. Maybe they are just telling their Dr's they've been trying for a year? I like the twin aspect but I think that might push DH into hospital time. :)

[iluvmyman]

13DPO, I took one last test this morning and it was negative. Totally not prego this time. :(

[iluvmyman]

I'm gonna lay a little low for a few days or so and try to get through Atomic's great Sticky's, re-educate myself and re-evaluate where I'm at on my sway techniques. I'll still respond and keep up on here, but try and not stay up till 1 am every night yammering away.

[begonia]

I'm gonna lay a little low for a few days or so and try to get through Atomic's great Sticky's, re-educate myself and re-evaluate where I'm at on my sway techniques. I'll still respond and keep up on here, but try and not stay up till 1 am every night yammering away.

But I LOVE your yammering! It's so fun to read your posts! Good to know on the 10 great dates thing. We do have a regular date night but it does end up frequently being about the kids or the house right now. Or DH's work. Anyhow I will likely wait til September at the earliest, only b/c we agreed not TTC until we get moved into the new house. But if not September definitely October, because for some weird reason I *feel* like that will be our boy month, LOL! I would have in some ways loved another accident baby ... DD1 was such a surprise and she's the best surprise ever, so I would probably shake my fist at God while he laughed at me had I gotten a BFP. 'Cause now I totally get that my plans aren't always the best :-) How badly did you go off the diet in the 2WW?

MFC I didn't realize you had been trying so long, too. We have a handful of longtime ttc'ers on our thread. I can't wait to celebrate the hard earned BFP's for all of you!

Thanks for the bday wishes for the baby girl Lola! It was super fun :-) So do you have any more doc appts between now and August when you TTC? The amount of $$$ on the OPK's is ridic. I haven't used them for several months since we aren't actively TTC. I'll start again 3 months or so beforehand to get the hang of it again, because they are crazy pricey.

3PNB where are you lady?! Hope you're a-ok :-) Hope you're on a fabulous vacay. I think most of us could use one!

Oooo! Here's a chatty topic (I can't help myself! I'm a chatterbox!) What is your dream vacay! Have you been on it? Where would it be? Would you take your kids :rofl: On that note, would you even take DH? :wink:

[Cinss]

13DPO, I took one last test this morning and it was negative. Totally not prego this time. :(

Bummer iluv, i know how it feels to see the negative result... Better luck next time, at least your cycle is on the shorter side, mine is 33 - 35 days usually :(

[TTC5]

Hi ladies will try drop in today for a catch up! I dunno what to do :s

[TTC5]

Could you add me also:

♥ User Name: Alexis2007
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW! (TTC at the end of June)
♥ TTC DC # 3
♥ Your approach to blue sway:Alkaline/Boy diet
Lots of potassium: potatoes, tomatoes, bananas, raisins, orange juice 3 cups 3x per day, lemon juice in all of my water (drink about 160+oz of lemon water per day). Lots of fruits and veggies. I salt everything I can. Oatmeal everyday for breakfast with added raisins. Do the BSD AF-O (1/2tsp in 4oz water 3x a day). Take Prenatals, Extra 3,000 folic acid, EPO AF-O 3x a day, Vitamin b6 150mg everyday, Fish oil. Will start Robitussin and Soy Isoflavones on ttc cycle in June. Also will start drinking V8 Spicy Hot low sodium on ttc cycle.

Adding =)

[princessap]

I am out AF arrived yesterday. And I am DONE swaying!!!
I really just want to be pregnant. I am hardly swaying anyways. Everything was perfect this month and nothing. I am very disappointed as all my other pregnancies happened so easily.
How important does everyone think timing is?
The only things i really was doing to sway was timing, 4 day abstinence and diet changes.
When I conceived DDs I drank milk and crystal light like crazy! I have since cut them out and only drink lemon water and no dairy. hoping it helps.
I am sooo disappointed that it is taking this long. It has been over a year now with an early m/c and 14 week loss in there. it sucks.

[TTC5]

Hope I did not miss anyone wanting their details added - let me know!!

Ok.. I am on swaying hold lol but still following general diet and supps just not as hard core! I have landed myself a job, although "relief" it is great and keeping my mind of swaying while we have a full house here. I am doing relief TA with school children and in particular those with special needs/disabilities. Thoroughly enjoy it :)

[TTC5]

Oh, and still temping too!

[Indira]

Oh, I´m very sorry princessap, I was wondering how you were doing.
Sparkling a lot of blue dust to all of you!!

[LolaInLove]

I am out AF arrived yesterday. And I am DONE swaying!!!
I really just want to be pregnant. I am hardly swaying anyways. Everything was perfect this month and nothing. I am very disappointed as all my other pregnancies happened so easily.
How important does everyone think timing is?
The only things i really was doing to sway was timing, 4 day abstinence and diet changes.
When I conceived DDs I drank milk and crystal light like crazy! I have since cut them out and only drink lemon water and no dairy. hoping it helps.
I am sooo disappointed that it is taking this long. It has been over a year now with an early m/c and 14 week loss in there. it sucks.

I HEAR YA, SISTER. You need to do what is right for you. I remember after my 5th bfn month in a row, I gave up on swaying also. I thought I would get pg in the first try, I've always been super fertile. But, then I got a bfp in the 6th month with no swaying, and it freaked me out to think that I didn't do these few little things to push the odds towards blue, so I started back with it after that m/c, and was feeling pretty good about the sway for the last pg. I know, it is so very frustrating. But you know, you can't get your dg if you can't get a bfp, and I am close to being on that track with you. I am focused right now on stuff that will improve our egg and sperm quality and just make a healthy baby. Hugs to you, hun.

[LolaInLove]

It's a BFN for me, Lola. A Big Fat Negative! I'm gonna try this month but I was sooo good last sway and totally blew it in the 2ww. Oh well, I just don't think I'm willing to wait till next month for the diet again.

I wish I had some advice to make it better for you, Lola. I can totally understand just wanting to get BFP at this point. Sounds like you are burnt and hurting. You and your body have been through a lot and I do want you to know that I have been praying for you.

Not sure if Mother's Day was a emotional for you as it was for me. I was hoping a BFP would make things feel a little more fair, but that's just not the way it works, is it.

Thinking about you, babe

THANKS, ILuv....it was not the best Mother's Day, but I did spend the day thinking about how lucky I am to have the two sweet girls I have been blessed with. You know, when you go through losses, you grieve for a while and then have to start perking up and remembering what you DO have.

So sorry you got a bfn.....I wrote in another post about this.....but I was totally there when I first ttc, I thought it would be a piece of cake. I had never used opks or anything, so I was all thinking, hey, if I'm hitting the nail on the head and putting sperm by my egg, this should take no time. Well, being 35 (34 then!!!), that was a crock. Just be patient....there aren't many of us who had a one hit wonder, no matter the age! Seems to me like you are doing an excellent job of researching swaying and getting a great plan in place, so you will get where you want to be soon, I am sure of it.

[LolaInLove]

Oh, and about the diet and 2ww thing, ILuv....just get back on it now and don't fret about it. I did that lots of months. I believe that if you are nourishing your body with a wide range of nutrients and eating a lot of protein and keeping your blood sugar level, you are swaying blue like a MOFO, so you can start again right away! I am sure you haven't been starving yourself in this 2ww, so you are probably better off than you think!

[LolaInLove]

Hope I did not miss anyone wanting their details added - let me know!!

Ok.. I am on swaying hold lol but still following general diet and supps just not as hard core! I have landed myself a job, although "relief" it is great and keeping my mind of swaying while we have a full house here. I am doing relief TA with school children and in particular those with special needs/disabilities. Thoroughly enjoy it :)

That's awesome! Nothing like working to take your mind off of stuff, that is for sure! So, you are aiming for August now?

[Flava]

Flava are you seriously dropping out or just having one of those days? Believe me, I think if I swayed as hard as you did and still got another DD I'd struggle with trying again too. But I'm also totally the type of person that believes everything is possible ... so maybe, just maybe, #5 could be it for you? My FIL is the 5th of 10; his mom had 4 girls before him, and then 3 more boys after him. Crazy. Anyhow I am with you on the drawing a line somewhere, and I know for sure 3 is my end point. Even if I knew it would be another girl at this point I'm convinced our family is supposed to have one more, so I'm going for it. Even if you don't sway again please stay around to hang out!

I don't know what to do...not sure about the everything is possible thing...also feel like we are fine like this now why start all over with another baby ? And most likely a girl anyway.

[Flava]

iluv Im sorry about the bfn:sad:

[Flava]

I am out AF arrived yesterday. And I am DONE swaying!!!
I really just want to be pregnant. I am hardly swaying anyways. Everything was perfect this month and nothing. I am very disappointed as all my other pregnancies happened so easily.
How important does everyone think timing is?
The only things i really was doing to sway was timing, 4 day abstinence and diet changes.
When I conceived DDs I drank milk and crystal light like crazy! I have since cut them out and only drink lemon water and no dairy. hoping it helps.
I am sooo disappointed that it is taking this long. It has been over a year now with an early m/c and 14 week loss in there. it sucks.

sorry about AF:sad: Diet changes is a good sway ! Hope you get a bfp next time!

[LolaInLove]

I don't know what to do...not sure about the everything is possible thing...also feel like we are fine like this now why start all over with another baby ? And most likely a girl anyway.

I can totally understand how you feel.....just go with your heart...if you are ok with another girl, then go for it. If not, then maybe you are fine. That's how I think at least. I know we want a 3rd no matter what, but then we are done also. What does your DH think?

[hope.ful]

Add me please! =)

♥ hope.ful
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW (TTC mid-May)
♥ TTC DC # 3 - have 2 DDs
♥ My approach: Diet including lots of sodium, potassium, protein, lemon water constantly, and very little sugar (way different than normal)
Supplements include Iron, B12, Lots of FA, Fish Oil, Vit E, Mucinex (1200/day)
Using OPK, Preseed w/BS, and Shettles timing and position method
Started P90X to increase muscle mass (have none currently)
And last but most importantly in my opinion, I WILL NOT be jumping and dumping, as was successful for two girls (I had NO IDEA that would sway girls but I'm a believer!)
I <3 GD!

[3Pink1Blue]

Sorry to be mia ladies had some chaos that enveloped my world for a few days. I'll fully read back later but it looks like a solid of bfn's, boy that sucks!

Dh and I have decided to take a break until my periods even out. The emotional roller coaster of late O and late AF is getting to me. I realized the other day that it's not swaying I'm sick of it's my own body screwing with me that I'm fed up with. I'm going to keep opk'ing just to be sure I continue to O but we have decided to wait at least two cycles before we try again, so I'll be joining you July/Aug swayers!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, I hear ya. I know I would feel the same way if I have another girl. And you are not mean to want 1 boy, that is why all of us are here.....we just want ONE of the other gender, which I think is completely natural for any human being. I want the experience of raising both genders of children, and therefore, I want a boy, just like you do. Doesn't mean I don't love and want and cherish my daughters...I just really want the next one to be a boy, and if it's not, then we will live our lives happily as the parents of 3 girls and I'll probably always wish I could have had a son, which will be hard to get over but I am sure I will someday. We can't afford HT, so that's it for us. And jeez, I say all this as if I can get pg in the first place.

I think it boils down to this: it's a risk....you never know, unless you go HT, that #5 will be a boy. So, you gotta take that gamble. Is it worth it to you? I know you don't *want* another girl, but could you be ok if you did have another failed sway? BUT.....on the flip side....if you never take that risk, you will never have your chance of having a son. I think you just need to talk to your DH and see how he feels about the possibility of a 5th girl, and then go from there. I can totally see how you'd be pessimistic about it, BUT (again) you never know! Maybe this one would work!

Either way, hugs to you, Flava, I know this is a very very big deal, and I hope you guys come to a good and peaceful conclusion so things are bright and sunny for you. XOXO

[LolaInLove]

Sorry to be mia ladies had some chaos that enveloped my world for a few days. I'll fully read back later but it looks like a solid of bfn's, boy that sucks!

Dh and I have decided to take a break until my periods even out. The emotional roller coaster of late O and late AF is getting to me. I realized the other day that it's not swaying I'm sick of it's my own body screwing with me that I'm fed up with. I'm going to keep opk'ing just to be sure I continue to O but we have decided to wait at least two cycles before we try again, so I'll be joining you July/Aug swayers!

Well I'm glad you'll be ttc with me then! I think it's a good decision to take a break, mostly because I feel good about doing it myself, I feel like it will rejuvenate me, so hopefully it will do the same for you.

[3Pink1Blue]

Thanks Lola, my crazy cycles make it very clear it doesn't matter what I want my body just is not ready. I woke up the morning after this decision feeling relived and positive. I'm not going to lie the last few days without potatoes have been most glorious!

[Flava]

Where is everyone?

[Flava]

Oh and no1 said nothing about my questions on page 35. Plz what do you guys think??

[Zivic-Bubac]

Oh and no1 said nothing about my questions on page 35. Plz what do you guys think??About Maca? IMHO it might be a good idea for mean only and for us Wheat Grass juice or Green Magma.

I often think about quitting the whole idea about 3rd child. But it's better to regret something you've done then something you haven't, right?
Why do you want to stop trying:
- you are functioning great like family of 6 and don't need any more?
- not enough space & money?
- DH is not full on board?
- you are afraid you will get another girl?
- all this combined?

Well all this are my reasons, esp the 1st one, we are doing great like family of 4 ( just our family make up sucks :rofl:) and my greatest fear is that I will ruin our harmony with another baby. That is what astrologist told me when I visited her before DD 2 was born: if you want a 3rd, it will be boy for sure, but very difficult child and he will ruin your life :worry:

I just laughed and said: oh, no each child is a blessing but a bug remained in my mind :worry: How ultimately stupid is that and what she knows in the 1st place.....

And of course, we don't have enough money, nor space, nor time....DH said to me few times he feels we are done and we are complete as a family. He never wanted 3 kids :sad:

At this point, I *think* I will be OK w/another girl, I have few names I really like for her ( boy name was decided before DD1 was born :sigh:)

I'll keep trying until I hit 40, and then I'll stop. It's a year and a half away, hopefully I'll get pg before that, but with all that swaying, I'm thinking: maybe my body is just not designed to conceive a boy :think:

[begonia]

find this in one of atomic post



ok I don't get it:suprise: we suppose to have lot's of ewcm for a boy right? But this here says the more sticky you have the higher a chance to have a boy?
Or it's just only if you always have sticky CM then you chance is higher for a boy but of course the best is to have ewcm?

Flava I think this is a good Q for Atomic. On the Q re: selenium I have no idea, and I'm not doing Co-Q10 either so no opinion there either, sorry! I do take D3 because it is another one that is considered "good for health in general" but specifically for bone/immunity health. I'm honestly not sure how it fits in the boy sway other than the "more nutrients, better overall health = boy" idea.

I'm so sorry you're struggling so with the #5 idea! It is a tough decision and certainly well worth thinking through over and over again, for sure, so I think it is great you're weighing it out. Because it is life changing for your family and the baby-to-be. For me when I think about #3, and about NOT having it, the appeal is that if we don't have another, we know what we've got and we know you we can handle it and it is what it is. But TTC again means so many unknowns, and unknowns can be exciting but also scary! Only you and your DH know for sure what the right answer is. Like Lola said I just hope you can come to a decision you are at peace with!

[begonia]

Welcome back 3PNB! Sounds like you're in a good place right now and that is fabulous. Looks like there will be a nice little group swaying in a couple of months!

My mind has gone blank! I wrote the post to Flava and then started this one and then the girls needed snacks and now I come back and can't recall a thing I was going to say. I have to go re-read. Sheesh ... I need some supplements to help with my memory recall.

[begonia]

Princessap I'm sorry you're out this month :-( To answer your Q I think timing has crazy, massive amounts of studies behind it. The thing about the studies is they can go either way ... so IMHO timing just isn't a big deal, at all. I do however think if you know what you did for your DD's I would do the opposite, and it sounds as though you know what you did for the DS you lost, so maybe just try to mimic that again.

Lola if you don't mind what supps are you doing now? I know you mentioned antiox type stuff so I am just curious.

Hooray for the job TTC5! I'm happy you're excited about it, and it sounds like a wonderful position with helping out little ones. Hope it goes very well :-)

[Flava]

zivic I think I just leave the maca alone. How can some1 say a baby will ruin your life? That astrologist was stupid .All tehy do is guessing game anyway don't believe it!
I have all this reasons you say here...plus I have to do it all by myself because DH is working and there is no1 else to help.
But if maybe just maybe it would be a boy then all worth it. ehhhh so hard!

[begonia]

For reals ZB ... we've had a boy name picked out for like, a decade now, LOL :-) Girl names I have a couple ... but nothing I love yet.

[Flava]

begonia thanks! Im thinking to try this CoQ10 because it highers the sperm count so good and so would be great for ttc boy.
But wanted some help on it first. I think atomic only have time on thursday or so she said...

[TTC5]

That's awesome! Nothing like working to take your mind off of stuff, that is for sure! So, you are aiming for August now?

I am not setting a month now, just take it by ear =)

[TTC5]

I don't know what to do...not sure about the everything is possible thing...also feel like we are fine like this now why start all over with another baby ? And most likely a girl anyway.

I hear you x

[TTC5]

Add me please! =)

♥ hope.ful
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW (TTC mid-May)
♥ TTC DC # 3 - have 2 DDs
♥ My approach: Diet including lots of sodium, potassium, protein, lemon water constantly, and very little sugar (way different than normal)
Supplements include Iron, B12, Lots of FA, Fish Oil, Vit E, Mucinex (1200/day)
Using OPK, Preseed w/BS, and Shettles timing and position method
Started P90X to increase muscle mass (have none currently)
And last but most importantly in my opinion, I WILL NOT be jumping and dumping, as was successful for two girls (I had NO IDEA that would sway girls but I'm a believer!)
I <3 GD!

Adding now! x

[TTC5]

I don't know lola...I also said no more after the 3rd! But when you don't get what you want so much soon or later you change your mind. I never ever thought I will have 4 kids or 5! But we just want 1 boy no more . Why can I just have 1?
DH didn't wanted another one...it's hard for us we have nobody to help ever, we are always alone. We never go out or anything...Im sure he just said yes because he want a boy .But what if it's a girl ? ( more likely I think) then we think why did we tried we where just fine with 4 girls. But then again this sound so awful...like Im mean or something...and I love my girls I always wanted girls. Just not 5! So it's very hard to decide what to do.super scared...

This is like us! We never go out either, ever!

[TTC5]

Princessap I'm sorry you're out this month :-( To answer your Q I think timing has crazy, massive amounts of studies behind it. The thing about the studies is they can go either way ... so IMHO timing just isn't a big deal, at all. I do however think if you know what you did for your DD's I would do the opposite, and it sounds as though you know what you did for the DS you lost, so maybe just try to mimic that again.

Lola if you don't mind what supps are you doing now? I know you mentioned antiox type stuff so I am just curious.

Hooray for the job TTC5! I'm happy you're excited about it, and it sounds like a wonderful position with helping out little ones. Hope it goes very well :-)

Thankyou! Has come at perfect timing. The day DH left work to study for the next too years so will help with the finances!

[begonia]

I wonder if Skrimpy had her baby girl?!?! It has been a few days since I've seen her but I've been scarce around here for a few days myself. I am ready to see some baby pictures :-)

[iluvmyman]

Iluvmyman, I'm sorry about the BFN :( but it's not over until AF shows her ugly head And, hopefully, she won't!!!

How many DPO are you now?

Did you guys here the fat lady singing? I did cuz AF arrived today

[iluvmyman]

Bummer iluv, i know how it feels to see the negative result... Better luck next time, at least your cycle is on the shorter side, mine is 33 - 35 days usually :(

Yuck!

[iluvmyman]

I am out AF arrived yesterday. And I am DONE swaying!!!
I really just want to be pregnant. I am hardly swaying anyways. Everything was perfect this month and nothing. I am very disappointed as all my other pregnancies happened so easily.
How important does everyone think timing is?
The only things i really was doing to sway was timing, 4 day abstinence and diet changes.
When I conceived DDs I drank milk and crystal light like crazy! I have since cut them out and only drink lemon water and no dairy. hoping it helps.
I am sooo disappointed that it is taking this long. It has been over a year now with an early m/c and 14 week loss in there. it sucks.

Over a year! I don't know that I could hard core for a year. It sounds like Diet and Supps are the most important aspects of sway. Timing seems to be heavily debated. I know Atomic has a sticky on that somewhere.

Sorry! I'm with you but not a year, so sorry.

[iluvmyman]

But I LOVE your yammering! It's so fun to read your posts! Good to know on the 10 great dates thing. We do have a regular date night but it does end up frequently being about the kids or the house right now. Or DH's work. Anyhow I will likely wait til September at the earliest, only b/c we agreed not TTC until we get moved into the new house. But if not September definitely October, because for some weird reason I *feel* like that will be our boy month, LOL! I would have in some ways loved another accident baby ... DD1 was such a surprise and she's the best surprise ever, so I would probably shake my fist at God while he laughed at me had I gotten a BFP. 'Cause now I totally get that my plans aren't always the best :-) How badly did you go off the diet in the 2WW?

Soon after started Starbucks again, got laxed about eating 1st thing. didn't do meat 3 x's a day and didn't track potassium or salt......so basically completely..badly...which seems to be the most important thing.

[iluvmyman]

Bummer iluv, i know how it feels to see the negative result... Better luck next time, at least your cycle is on the shorter side, mine is 33 - 35 days usually :(

But I was soooo good last time! :tissue: Totally messed up in the 2WW but it could take more than 2 months and I'll have chance with month 3??? But I don't want it to take that long. I'm trying to be really good during these next 2 weeks from AF-O so hopefully I haven't changed everything I worked so hard for in the EWCM during the last 2 months +. We'll see.

[My Fabulous Children]

I am out AF arrived yesterday. And I am DONE swaying!!!
I really just want to be pregnant. I am hardly swaying anyways. Everything was perfect this month and nothing. I am very disappointed as all my other pregnancies happened so easily.
How important does everyone think timing is?
The only things i really was doing to sway was timing, 4 day abstinence and diet changes.
When I conceived DDs I drank milk and crystal light like crazy! I have since cut them out and only drink lemon water and no dairy. hoping it helps.
I am sooo disappointed that it is taking this long. It has been over a year now with an early m/c and 14 week loss in there. it sucks.

I am so sorry, ((HUGS)) I would drop timing ..Try what Aqua did, 4days cut off O-2 then again with 2days cut off on O day!!!

[My Fabulous Children]

Hope I did not miss anyone wanting their details added - let me know!!

Ok.. I am on swaying hold lol but still following general diet and supps just not as hard core! I have landed myself a job, although "relief" it is great and keeping my mind of swaying while we have a full house here. I am doing relief TA with school children and in particular those with special needs/disabilities. Thoroughly enjoy it :)

Great, I would wait too. Hopefully you will sway in best time hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

I don't know what to do...not sure about the everything is possible thing...also feel like we are fine like this now why start all over with another baby ? And most likely a girl anyway.

Flava, I understand how you feel hun, but I'm thinking chang things hopefully will help to get your little boy?! You are swaying differently this time. A lot of us got boys I hope and pray you will. And there are some ladies who sway twice and got boys twice, I would follow their attempt just to get more info on how to make your sway more successfully see what they did, even though I know it's not guaranteed it, but at least try harder. If you think you can do this do it IF not do, not it's really up to you, I wish I can help :( XOXO.

[My Fabulous Children]

Sorry to be mia ladies had some chaos that enveloped my world for a few days. I'll fully read back later but it looks like a solid of bfn's, boy that sucks!

Dh and I have decided to take a break until my periods even out. The emotional roller coaster of late O and late AF is getting to me. I realized the other day that it's not swaying I'm sick of it's my own body screwing with me that I'm fed up with. I'm going to keep opk'ing just to be sure I continue to O but we have decided to wait at least two cycles before we try again, so I'll be joining you July/Aug swayers!

Me too Jen!!! I can't even make an attempt :( CM is creamy and no +OPK yet, I'm on CD 23. My cycle is really messed up, am really sick of it. I'm going to wait, but until now, I still don't know when to try :think:

I hope that your cycle gets back on track soon:luck:

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks lola at the end maybe I will try because this is making me crazy. For now DH is ok with trying 1 last time. Im afraid if I talk to him again he change his mind.:worry:
We went out yesterday and buyed all new underwear for him .Super thin boxers 1 size bigger what he really need so it's all comfy no squeezing around there anymore lol. Oh and I made him throw out all the old ones :rofl: and he did it so I guess for now he want's to try.:suprise:

1 size bigger :rofl:

[iluvmyman]

I am so sorry, ((HUGS)) I would drop timing ..Try what Aqua did, 4days cut off O-2 then again with 2days cut off on O day!!!

MFC, can you say the timing again but dumb it down 1 more time, real slow like, about the timing to ttc boy. I want to make sure I get this right since I thought I'd try 2 x's instead of just once this month

[My Fabulous Children]

For reals ZB ... we've had a boy name picked out for like, a decade now, LOL :-) Girl names I have a couple ... but nothing I love yet.

I don't have a girl name. My DH picked out our DD's names I never care. My DH named my DD2 at 2 days old. My second pregnancy was sad and I didn't care about name, etc (GD sucks:() but I have many boy names and I am glad to say I used one.

ZB, We have the money, but we are not rich, but we can handle DC#4, We have place too, but the only thing I am worry about is the difficult child. My son is NOTHING likes my girls he drives me crazy. I think boys are different then girls.

[My Fabulous Children]

I wonder if Skrimpy had her baby girl?!?! It has been a few days since I've seen her but I've been scarce around here for a few days myself. I am ready to see some baby pictures :-)

I've been wondering about her too! Hope she's doing well. I think her baby is due in the end of the month, but It could be early.

[My Fabulous Children]

Did you guys here the fat lady singing? I did cuz AF arrived today

Sorry :( GL on trying again hun.

[My Fabulous Children]

MFC, can you say the timing again but dumb it down 1 more time, real slow like, about the timing to ttc boy. I want to make sure I get this right since I thought I'd try 2 x's instead of just once this month

Two attempt. Ovulation -02 so that's two days before ovulation with a 4 day abstinence. And BD on O day with a two day abstinence.

[TTC5]

Did you guys here the fat lady singing? I did cuz AF arrived today

=(

[TTC5]

Went shopping today for new outfit for my new job and omg I have gone from a size 8-10 max au sizing to now a 14 =(
I feel disgusting, I look awful and yeah just feel crap!!

[babydes56]

About Maca? IMHO it might be a good idea for mean only and for us Wheat Grass juice or Green Magma.

I often think about quitting the whole idea about 3rd child. But it's better to regret something you've done then something you haven't, right?
Why do you want to stop trying:
- you are functioning great like family of 6 and don't need any more?
- not enough space & money?
- DH is not full on board?
- you are afraid you will get another girl?
- all this combined?

Well all this are my reasons, esp the 1st one, we are doing great like family of 4 ( just our family make up sucks :rofl:) and my greatest fear is that I will ruin our harmony with another baby. That is what astrologist told me when I visited her before DD 2 was born: if you want a 3rd, it will be boy for sure, but very difficult child and he will ruin your life :worry:

I just laughed and said: oh, no each child is a blessing but a bug remained in my mind :worry: How ultimately stupid is that and what she knows in the 1st place.....

And of course, we don't have enough money, nor space, nor time....DH said to me few times he feels we are done and we are complete as a family. He never wanted 3 kids :sad:

At this point, I *think* I will be OK w/another girl, I have few names I really like for her ( boy name was decided before DD1 was born :sigh:)

I'll keep trying until I hit 40, and then I'll stop. It's a year and a half away, hopefully I'll get pg before that, but with all that swaying, I'm thinking: maybe my body is just not designed to conceive a boy :think:

Zivic i'm with you about hitting 40 & stopping. I have only till next Mar before i throw the towel in & say enough is enough

[babydes56]

Went shopping today for new outfit for my new job and omg I have gone from a size 8-10 max au sizing to now a 14 =(
I feel disgusting, I look awful and yeah just feel crap!!

Sorry hun, we have all put on weight. I'm a dress size bigger & not happy at all with the weight haha!

[babydes56]

Did you guys here the fat lady singing? I did cuz AF arrived today

Sorry about BFN, blue team not having much luck lately what's going on? I hope we all have better luck soon

[Zivic-Bubac]

Went shopping today for new outfit for my new job and omg I have gone from a size 8-10 max au sizing to now a 14 =(
I feel disgusting, I look awful and yeah just feel crap!!
I can totally relate...I gained 5 kg and I'm closer and closer to my weight when I was 9 months pg w/my girls http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sad050.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Anyway, I want to share smthg w/you guys....
This morning I ran into a sort-of-acquaintance lady ( our daughters are going in the same kindergarten) and she is very obviously pregnant lol! She has 2 girls already so I immediately asked is this baby a boy or a girl :p
Guess what....It's a boy....they allegedly wanted 3rd girl (:sigh: right...Are you buying that story?) I was beyond jealous, she didn't even sway and I already spent a fortune on supps etc :hair: And she is younger than me ( well everybody is, I should get used to that fact :D )

I felt like this http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt003.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) like she was deliberately trying to hurt me ( how disturbed am I ?)

It was so hard to say: Congratulations....:sad:

But I got new motivation, like- just wait I will get my :DS:too. Hmmm, this doesn't sound healthy lol!

[babydes56]

I watched a fantastic programme on BBC about conception, it was so interesting to find out that over 220 milion sperm are ejaculated & only about 20 survive the journey, we also have about 20% chance of falling preg each time so if you really think about this it shows that it isnt that easy to get preg

[Zivic-Bubac]

Zivic i'm with you about hitting 40 & stopping. I have only till next Mar before i throw the towel in & say enough is enough
It's good to know I'm not alone:hugs:
I'm praying you get your baby boy asap! :ttcboy:

[babydes56]

Zivic, you crack me up! I think we all just sensitive to anyone having a boy without even trying for one. I think it's the time & money we've all spent that's getting to us now

[babydes56]

One thing i wanted to ask, are you still taking DHEA? I dont know if that's what made my period much lighter this month, i usually have AF for 4-5 days but this time it was like a full day & half then just spotting, strange..

[Zivic-Bubac]

I'm skipping May-sway and probably June too, but yes, I'm planning to continue with DHEA. My periods are shorter too, IDK is this DHEA doing? It's like full-force for 24 hours and then much lighter (which is usually not the case) and all together it was like 3 days for real and 4th day so-so. Sorry if TMI!

[babydes56]

It's good to take a break from swaying because you come back on a more positive note. I think it's the DHEA that's doing that to us, how long have you been taking it? I take 25mg a day, how much are you taking?

[Flava]

fab tnx! I will try really hard if we do it for sure. Only don't know how to do it yet.
Hope you O soon and get a bfp because this long ttc suck.

[Flava]

zivic Im sure your friend was lying ! Maybe I would say the same just because of ppl 's stupid comments.

[Flava]

I watched a fantastic programme on BBC about conception, it was so interesting to find out that over 220 milion sperm are ejaculated & only about 20 survive the journey, we also have about 20% chance of falling preg each time so if you really think about this it shows that it isnt that easy to get preg

This is so interesting! So maybe we don't need so much sperm to crack the egg together ? Atomic says 1 sperm can't crack the egg it will need a whole lot to help. But if it's only like 20 or less then I think they are stronger the I thought.( maybe I can try msu again...hmmm:think:)
But from 220 million ? wow! I wonder how come any survive if this much die?

[Zivic-Bubac]

it's the DHEA that's doing that to us, how long have you been taking it? I take 25mg a day, how much are you taking? It's 4th cycle, but I plan to skip next cycle ( DHEA) . I'm taking 25 mg in the morning and 25 mg in the evening, so 50 mg total.

[Flava]

It's 4th cycle, but I plan to skip next cycle ( DHEA) . I'm taking 25 mg in the morning and 25 mg in the evening, so 50 mg total.

Why do you take 50mg? The one I have says take 25 mg so Im just asking. Also this is for only the month we ttc right not before? Like if I try it will be Oct. don't need this the 3 months before , right?

[3Pink1Blue]

Iluvmyman - sorry about af, I really hope someone puts a muzzle on her soon.

Princessap - screw timing (full pun intended) If it were huge there would be no shettles opposites and we would all tell the same story. I'm focusing on diet, I don't need studies to show we all have the same habits with very few exceptions. FX for you next month, one of us needs a bfp dammit!

MFC - thanks, my midwives think(:fingers:) things will even out in the next month or so but there's not way to know for sure. My last period was super late but fairly normal so I have hope that regularity is on the horizon. I could never have imagined one little m/c (ha ha) could mess me up so badly. Oh and fish oil and musinex create amazing cm :)

TTC5 - Ugh on the bigger pant size, I feel your pain, my fat pants are snug and my awesome pants are on hiatus.

ZB- I get you on the poking, my sil whines about how much more fun it is to dress girls and how she can never find anything good for her son. Boo hoo, I wish I had your problem :mad:

Babydes56 - I swear the more you learn about conception it's amazing anyone gets pregnant ever let alone on accident.

I'm thinking I need to go back to checking in a couple times a day, you ladies have been to chatty to fully catch up on lol
Feeling good here, need to watch my eating more as I've gone back to my old ways a bit. I really don't want my hiatus to destroy my chances so it'll be regimented meals and snacks for me. I've spent way to much time and put on too much weight to let my body to suddenly think it's famine time again. Sunny day today, the park is calling.

[Zivic-Bubac]

Why do you take 50mg? The one I have says take 25 mg so Im just asking. Also this is for only the month we ttc right not before? Like if I try it will be Oct. don't need this the 3 months before , right?I take 50 mg bcos I'm 38 and I want to make sure I'm Oing each and every cycle. IVF candidates are taking 75 mg a day.
I could only find 50 mg tablets, so I cut them in half. I also checked few sites about DHEA, and I can't remember details now ( of course), but I remember 50 mg is OK.

Yes, it takes 3 cycles to make it work, but I guess, like everything else, it's individual?

[LolaInLove]

Two attempt. Ovulation -02 so that's two days before ovulation with a 4 day abstinence. And BD on O day with a two day abstinence.

This is, in my opinion, optimum boy timing.

[LolaInLove]

Went shopping today for new outfit for my new job and omg I have gone from a size 8-10 max au sizing to now a 14 =(
I feel disgusting, I look awful and yeah just feel crap!!

DUDEEEEEEE, that is how I feel. I totally kwym. Just keep repeating the mantra "I am doing this for my future son. I am doing this for my future son. I am doing this for my future son......"

[LolaInLove]

I watched a fantastic programme on BBC about conception, it was so interesting to find out that over 220 milion sperm are ejaculated & only about 20 survive the journey, we also have about 20% chance of falling preg each time so if you really think about this it shows that it isnt that easy to get preg

Also crazy to think that 50% fall to m/c also....amazing that the human race has even made it at that rate!!!!

[LolaInLove]

3PNB, I've totally reverted back to my girl diet....which is coffee first thing in the am and then no food till 10am, then lunch at 2pm, then dinner. Which isn't terrible, but my blood sugar does suffer in the early part of the day. I have laid off the potatoes also, and I think I've gone down a few inches in the midsection for sure in the last couple of weeks. My fat pants which were snug at my heaviest are now loose. But, I think I am going to start the diet again in the next couple of weeks. And the supps, I've been just taking a prenatal. And Begonia, I have a multiantioxidant, CoQ10, and then the usual boy supps. I will post a more comprehensive list once I get that huge sack of pills out of the closet and start putting them in the many pill dispensers we use daily when swaying. UGHHHHHHH

I am not taking the DHEA though....I don't know why it's making your periods lighter, that is interesting. Do you gals think your T is rising with it?

Iluv, sorry about AF.....don't freak, we all just get back in the saddle and go for it again. It's up to you if you want to take a couple of months off and gear up again or just go for it next cycle, with as much swaying in the 2 weeks AF-O as you can do. Sounds to me like you are impatient (LIKE ME!) about ttc.....well, we all are getting that way.....so just go for it if you want that bfp badly enough. The only time I took a month off was when I had the first m/c. I think the best thing to do is just cut out your supps during the 2ww and keep up the diet, but everyone worries that they don't get the "optimum" sway if they haven't been taking the supps and doing diet hardcore for 6 weeks.

So, yes, let me comment on the fatness one more time.....I am going to the beach tomorrow, and am still deciding whether to wear a MUUMUU all day and not even put on a bathing suit like an old lady, or just to make us pick a spot that is so far down the beach that we are the only people. I will tell you guys, the boy diet for 8 months has wrecked my figure, and the fact that the summer is here and I now need to wear skimpier clothing is making me even more irritated.

ZB- what a wear thing to say, that you wanted a third girl.....I would just not say anything to anyone at all, whether I wanted a boy or girl! That is the s$%t that kills me.....maybe I could just go on living my life without freaking about timing, supps, being a fatass, etc, and STILL MAKE A BOY!!!! I am just not that brave!

And we do need to have another bfp here soon, this is getting depressing. I am not going to ttc much longer than a few months after we start back, I'm getting too sick of it also. If we don't get a bfp by October, I am just stopping all of this and going to "living my life" plan again and if we accidentally get pg, and if it's a girl, well then I'll be just elated that I got pregnant at all.

[lightofmylife]

About Maca? IMHO it might be a good idea for mean only and for us Wheat Grass juice or Green Magma.http://genderdreaming.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=32798

I often think about quitting the whole idea about 3rd child. But it's better to regret something you've done then something you haven't, right?
Why do you want to stop trying:
- you are functioning great like family of 6 and don't need any more?
- not enough space & money?
- DH is not full on board?
- you are afraid you will get another girl?
- all this combined?

Well all this are my reasons, esp the 1st one, we are doing great like family of 4 ( just our family make up sucks :rofl:) and my greatest fear is that I will ruin our harmony with another baby. That is what astrologist told me when I visited her before DD 2 was born: if you want a 3rd, it will be boy for sure, but very difficult child and he will ruin your life :worry:

I just laughed and said: oh, no each child is a blessing but a bug remained in my mind :worry: How ultimately stupid is that and what she knows in the 1st place.....

And of course, we don't have enough money, nor space, nor time....DH said to me few times he feels we are done and we are complete as a family. He never wanted 3 kids :sad:

At this point, I *think* I will be OK w/another girl, I have few names I really like for her ( boy name was decided before DD1 was born :sigh:)

I'll keep trying until I hit 40, and then I'll stop. It's a year and a half away, hopefully I'll get pg before that, but with all that swaying, I'm thinking: maybe my body is just not designed to conceive a boy :think:
now i am wishing i would be 40 next year so that i would have solid reason for not TTC :(

[Zivic-Bubac]

now i am wishing i would be 40 next year so that i would have solid reason for not TTC :( I completely understand your divided feelings about TTC....but being near 40 is nothing to envy about booo-hooo

[Zivic-Bubac]

I am not taking the DHEA though....I don't know why it's making your periods lighter, that is interesting. Do you gals think your T is rising with it? I certainly do hope so :worry:

[Flava]

I take 50 mg bcos I'm 38 and I want to make sure I'm Oing each and every cycle. IVF candidates are taking 75 mg a day.
I could only find 50 mg tablets, so I cut them in half. I also checked few sites about DHEA, and I can't remember details now ( of course), but I remember 50 mg is OK.

Yes, it takes 3 cycles to make it work, but I guess, like everything else, it's individual?

Oh ok I get it now so need to take it 3 cycles. I will be 37 this year so I guess i better take the 50 if I take it.

[LolaInLove]

Oh ok I get it now so need to take it 3 cycles. I will be 37 this year so I guess i better take the 50 if I take it.

Yep, they recommend for 90 days as that is how long it takes an egg to mature in the follicle, thus, for the DHEA to affect the egg's quality.

[princessap]

Over a year! I don't know that I could hard core for a year. It sounds like Diet and Supps are the most important aspects of sway. Timing seems to be heavily debated. I know Atomic has a sticky on that somewhere.

Sorry! I'm with you but not a year, so sorry.

Iluvmyman....thanks for the response, this sucks and I really hope we all get BFPs soon. I haven't been swaying for a year. I did have an early m/c and then stopped for a few months and then swayed a little for a month when we conceived our son who we lost at 14 weeks, so I stopped swaying the whole time I was pregnant and didn't think I would sway again so I TTC without swaying for a few months. I am swaying now but really only doing diet and some supps {folic acid is really the only one}...my OB advised against other supps and I trust her so we are sticking to natural. I am hoping it all works out!

[princessap]

This is, in my opinion, optimum boy timing.

Thanks for this...I am going to try this this next attempt and then if I am not pregnant I am going to let whatever happens, happens. I got pregnant with my DDs so easily and find this soooo stressful...it is all consuming and I don't want it to be this way for much longer.

Someone posted {sorry too many pages back} that I should do opposite of my DDs....well my DD1 was a one time hit on OV day and my youngest was frequent BD thru OV and the boy we lost was 4 day abstinence and then DTD two days in a row, ) and )+1, so timing wise they are all different and not "according to theory of what works for each gender"....man this was easier when TTC was fun!

[princessap]

And we do need to have another bfp here soon, this is getting depressing. I am not going to ttc much longer than a few months after we start back, I'm getting too sick of it also. If we don't get a bfp by October, I am just stopping all of this and going to "living my life" plan again and if we accidentally get pg, and if it's a girl, well then I'll be just elated that I got pregnant at all.

I agree...all these BFNs are depressing....I agree with you about not TTC much longer, I am giving it until August and then if nothing, whatever will be will be....I really just want another baby to hold and love!

[mmsgirlie22]

Random question, but would it be bad to hope to be pregnant even though the hubs is being an epic douchebag???

hahahah just curious because we DTD 3 days before I had my IUD removed and then the same day after I had it removed(even though he pulled out...sorry for TMI). I've just been putting things together in my head and noticed I've been really queasy after eating lately and been super tired(although that might be chalked up to working alot). Meh....i'm probably just getting myself all worked up over nothing.

Ok.....the end.

[begonia]

Oh mmsgirlie FX for you, that would be crazy if it worked out!

You know I'm super curious to see how the swaying will change my fertility, if at all ... it seems like there are several of us who in the past got pregnant 1st time, and with boy sways it is taking a bit longer. Some of that I'm sure is just we're all older than we were with our 1st (2nd, 3rd, etc) kids, but it sure does make you wonder if there is something else to it as well.

[3Pink1Blue]

fwiw begonia I had a hard core boy sway and got preg 1st try last Aug.

mmsgirlie - fx!

[My Fabulous Children]

Went shopping today for new outfit for my new job and omg I have gone from a size 8-10 max au sizing to now a 14 =(
I feel disgusting, I look awful and yeah just feel crap!!

Most of my clothes don't fit anymore :( ...

[My Fabulous Children]

Sorry hun, we have all put on weight. I'm a dress size bigger & not happy at all with the weight haha!

Glad I am NOT the only one!! Ive gained more then 30 lbs..I can't believe it.

[My Fabulous Children]

fab tnx! I will try really hard if we do it for sure. Only don't know how to do it yet.
Hope you O soon and get a bfp because this long ttc suck.

Thanks Flava. I am really not sure on what to do ..I'm thinking about taking a break :think:

[My Fabulous Children]

Zivic, you crack me up! I think we all just sensitive to anyone having a boy without even trying for one. I think it's the time & money we've all spent that's getting to us now

I agree. I am very sensitive to anyone having a boy (IRL) .. even thought I have a boy, but I swayed hard for him. A lot of people don't know about swaying and the get what they want without trying.

[My Fabulous Children]

Random question, but would it be bad to hope to be pregnant even though the hubs is being an epic douchebag???

hahahah just curious because we DTD 3 days before I had my IUD removed and then the same day after I had it removed(even though he pulled out...sorry for TMI). I've just been putting things together in my head and noticed I've been really queasy after eating lately and been super tired(although that might be chalked up to working alot). Meh....i'm probably just getting myself all worked up over nothing.

Ok.....the end.

FX!!

[My Fabulous Children]

fwiw begonia I had a hard core boy sway and got preg 1st try last Aug.

mmsgirlie - fx!

Ditto. I had a hard core boy sway and got pregnant first try with my DS.

[Cheekymoo]

Hi wondering if i can join this thread :) feel a bit nervous as I have only really been reading thus far and this makes it all real.


♥ Cheekymoo
♥ Swaying Status: 2 weeks into diet/supplements 6 weeks to 1st try (early july)
♥ TTC DC #3 (2 girls)
♥ Your approach to blue sway: Eating lots meat, potatoes, tomatoes, , fruit and veg and cereal x2 day. Salting all possible. Snacking througout the day. Cut out chocolate, fizzy drinks and sweets limiting calcium but not strictly (no dairy etc but still eating some in vege etc. Drinking green tea, and v8 veg juice both once a day and different fruit juices, lemon water. Doing weights once week.Supplements i am on 2000mg FA, 50mg zinc, potassium suplements, 1000mg fish oil, 500mg vit E, will do ASG, BSF month of try, as well as guanaifesen 5 days prior to ov.

[Flava]

Thanks Flava. I am really not sure on what to do ..I'm thinking about taking a break :think:

If you take a break the it has to be a log one right and you don't want that. I mean if you go off the diet for like 2 months then you have to be on again at least 6 weeks ( but I think 3 months is what we have to do right?) to do it right. So that's like 5 months before ttc again?
What you gonna do? Better get a bfp this month!( I hope)

[Flava]

Hi wondering if i can join this thread :) feel a bit nervous as I have only really been reading thus far and this makes it all real.


♥ Cheekymoo
♥ Swaying Status: 2 weeks into diet/supplements 6 weeks to 1st try (early july)
♥ TTC DC #3 (2 girls)
♥ Your approach to blue sway: Eating lots meat, potatoes, tomatoes, , fruit and veg and cereal x2 day. Salting all possible. Snacking througout the day. Cut out chocolate, fizzy drinks and sweets limiting calcium but not strictly (no dairy etc but still eating some in vege etc. Drinking green tea, and v8 veg juice both once a day and different fruit juices, lemon water. Doing weights once week.Supplements i am on 2000mg FA, 50mg zinc, potassium suplements, 1000mg fish oil, 500mg vit E, will do ASG, BSF month of try, as well as guanaifesen 5 days prior to ov.

welcome and good luck! If you do weight once a week is not enough. And I don't know who is cutting out calcium "strictly" really? ( speak up plz lol) all I know to do best is no dairy...but the rest? We all need to eat fruit and veggie and drink juices right? Really I have no clue how much calcium is in one carrot or grapes or so on.
I think your diet is good!

[Flava]

I checked the ph of my green teat and it was 3.6:suprise: I drink this all day but I make it with struvia and lemon juice. So even if the ph low it's is from the lemon and it's ok to drink because it's suppose to raise ph after we drinked it or I better get some ph drops and add it in my drinks?:confused:

[3Pink1Blue]

Glad I am NOT the only one!! Ive gained more then 30 lbs..I can't believe it.

So not alone, I think we are all busting out of our jeans.

[princessap]

okay girls quick question....if I am doing the 4 day abstinence and then DTD O-2 and O day. when do I start the four day abstinence....I get two days of +opk on CD 13 and 14.
thanks!

[Flava]

okay girls quick question....if I am doing the 4 day abstinence and then DTD O-2 and O day. when do I start the four day abstinence....I get two days of +opk on CD 13 and 14.
thanks!

I have no idea...I was thinking we need the 4 day before we dtd.But if you do it twice then for the second try you have only 2 day abst. right?

[TTC5]

Hi wondering if i can join this thread :) feel a bit nervous as I have only really been reading thus far and this makes it all real.


♥ Cheekymoo
♥ Swaying Status: 2 weeks into diet/supplements 6 weeks to 1st try (early july)
♥ TTC DC #3 (2 girls)
♥ Your approach to blue sway: Eating lots meat, potatoes, tomatoes, , fruit and veg and cereal x2 day. Salting all possible. Snacking througout the day. Cut out chocolate, fizzy drinks and sweets limiting calcium but not strictly (no dairy etc but still eating some in vege etc. Drinking green tea, and v8 veg juice both once a day and different fruit juices, lemon water. Doing weights once week.Supplements i am on 2000mg FA, 50mg zinc, potassium suplements, 1000mg fish oil, 500mg vit E, will do ASG, BSF month of try, as well as guanaifesen 5 days prior to ov.



Welcome! Adding now =)

[TTC5]

I checked the ph of my green teat and it was 3.6:suprise: I drink this all day but I make it with struvia and lemon juice. So even if the ph low it's is from the lemon and it's ok to drink because it's suppose to raise ph after we drinked it or I better get some ph drops and add it in my drinks?:confused:

From what I understand outside the body lemon is very acidic but once it hits us inside it is very alkaline?

[TTC5]

Most of my clothes don't fit anymore :( ...

It is so depressing hey!

[TTC5]

Morning girls.
Ok.... I now have my first OWT under my bed lol a little boy outfit, can't hurt, right? lol
Also, found some gelatine capsules in my health food store and am now filling them with NYF's and gelatine so no more nasty concoctions/drinks YAYY!! Only down fall is I have to take like over 30 pills a day now HAHA oh well better than the drink!

[begonia]

TTC5 are you trying this month now? Or just getting the OWT outfit for future prep? I bought the most adorable little outfit last year when I was shopping for another friend who, of course, was having a boy. Like it seems like everyone does. Anyhow I have it in my lingerie drawer now, LOL ...

Welcome Cheekymoo!

Thanks for letting me know that y'all did get pg 1st try, MFC and 3PNB! Encouraging! But I definitely am not expecting it. I still can't believe both my girls happened so fast. Well the 1 on BCP's didn't exactly "happen fast" since obvi we weren't trying, LOL!

I haven't been on all day! Life has gotten busy lately for some crazy reason! Hope everyone is doing well :-) Still wondering about our Skrimpy and that baby girl!!! I know her due date was end of month but I also remember her saying that she thought it might happen early this time. So exciting!

[TTC5]

Begonia - I sell childrens clothing online and we just had a new line come in and I put a size 0000 away for us HEHE

[TTC5]

Oh, and not sure we are playing it by ear now, depends on how well I can diet and supp/drink the next 4ish weeks... so hard with soo many people living in my home. One with a severe mental illness just to name a few..

[Cheekymoo]

Thanks for the welcome girls,

I am sorry to hear you are putting on so much weight- but it must mean your doing this swaying thing right! I am eating so much of all the things i used to avoid I am too scared to even weigh myself ( and i am only 2 weeks in!). I am also hoping it happens quickly so the scales won't be too scary when the BFP eventually comes.
I am struggling with my PH ATM...I was expecting it to have risen at least a little, admittedly I haven't started the ASG yet but aren't some of the other vit supplements supposed to help?? MY PH is 5, and even at O time it was still 5!!
Those that have done the baking soda drinks etc how long do you think it took for your PH to rise?? I am wondering if it's best to start now 1 or 2 a day for the next 6 weeks?? Mabye more close to trying time? Would love some advice from you more experienced girls! :)

[LolaInLove]

Thanks for this...I am going to try this this next attempt and then if I am not pregnant I am going to let whatever happens, happens. I got pregnant with my DDs so easily and find this soooo stressful...it is all consuming and I don't want it to be this way for much longer.

Someone posted {sorry too many pages back} that I should do opposite of my DDs....well my DD1 was a one time hit on OV day and my youngest was frequent BD thru OV and the boy we lost was 4 day abstinence and then DTD two days in a row, ) and )+1, so timing wise they are all different and not "according to theory of what works for each gender"....man this was easier when TTC was fun!

This is exactly why I don't think the timing or frequency matters that much. Atomic conceived her sons in many different bd patterns, she told me. I'm trying the 2 day abstinence, then bd on 0-2, then on O the first month, and if that doesn't work, I'm going to the SMEP plan (Deanna's plan) where you bd more frequently....its one that is used for infertility. Although....both times I got pg this year, we bd on o-1 and then on 0, and I think also on 0+1 the first time. I just don't put too much stock in the timing aspect. I would definitley NOT bd like 0-3 or 0-2 and no more for a boy, I do think you need to bd on O day for sure.

[LolaInLove]

okay girls quick question....if I am doing the 4 day abstinence and then DTD O-2 and O day. when do I start the four day abstinence....I get two days of +opk on CD 13 and 14.
thanks!

I would consider your O to be on CD14, so bd on day 8, then on 12, then 14. Do you think you actually O on the 2nd day? I would guess so.

[LolaInLove]

Or just have DH "release" on CD8!

[LolaInLove]

[QUOTE=TTC5;33582]From what I understand outside the body lemon is very acidic but once it hits us inside it is very alkaline?[/QUOTE

EXACTLY! I brew a quart of green tea, then put it over ice so it is cold, then add lemon and Stevia and kill 3 birds with one stone there.

[LolaInLove]

Welcome, Cheekymoo! Don't be shy, we are all over the place so ask away. TTC5, I definitely take about 30 pills a day when swaying, but like princess said.....kinda wondering if I should.....

[princessap]

Is it better to be drinking the green tea cold instead of hot??

[Flava]

Is it better to be drinking the green tea cold instead of hot??

No clue I drink both way.I don't think it matter.

[Flava]

i guess we are outnumbered just like in IG. Most post are about HT here and after that is TTC girl.

[Zivic-Bubac]

Is it better to be drinking the green tea cold instead of hot??

I remember from IG cold drinks/foods sway blue, hot sway pink, but I forgot the reason behind that.
So I'm drinking my green tea cold, I even eat canned soups as cold as possible. If that doesn't help, I don't know what will:rofl:

[Zivic-Bubac]

i guess we are outnumbered just like in IG. Most post are about HT here and after that is TTC girl.

Yes, I've noticed too there are so many HT threads, but I enjoy reading them bcos I can learn so much about what IVF ladies are taking in order to conceive easier and improve egg quality - like CoQ-10 for instance.

[nuthinbutpink]

i guess we are outnumbered just like in IG. Most post are about HT here and after that is TTC girl.

I hope you boy swayers don't feel like that matters. I am very aware of the boy swayers being a mom that desperately wanted a son as well.

There are definitely more swaying users than HT and HT has its ups and downs with activity depending on if there is someone currently cycling.

I'll never treat the boy moms any different or less than the girl dreamers! I hope you all know that!

Outnumbered doesn't make you any less important to me!!

[Flava]

Yes, I've noticed too there are so many HT threads, but I enjoy reading them bcos I can learn so much about what IVF ladies are taking in order to conceive easier and improve egg quality - like CoQ-10 for instance.

Tell me what you learned lol . But I know ! I already ordered the ubiquinol CoQ 10 for DH it works a lot better they say!:agree:
But I have to say I don't understand the half of that stuff...

[Flava]

I hope you boy swayers don't feel like that matters. I am very aware of the boy swayers being a mom that desperately wanted a son as well.

There are definitely more swaying users than HT and HT has its ups and downs with activity depending on if there is someone currently cycling.

I'll never treat the boy moms any different or less than the girl dreamers! I hope you all know that!

Outnumbered doesn't make you any less important to me!!

Oh no I don't think that! I wish I can do HT and get my boy for sure and we are all done. But we don't have money so I can't. And I guess more mom has boys so more ttc ladies are here.
What I meant was there is always less woman ttc boys somehow. It's just shows that most mom has boys I guess.

[Flava]

I have a Q
When we suppose to start taking baby aspirin? Right after O or what? I know I took it when I was ttc with DD4 but forget when to start it exactly.( of course only on the ttc month not just yet)

[TTC5]

I have well and truely hit the part where I am OVER swaying! Man, give me a girl sway any day!
My skin is oily and I have huge blemishes. I am fat, and I have soo much wind lol.
I am so over eating all the time, and feeling like a big fat slob!!!

rant over lol