♥ June 2011 ~ Swaying for Blue? This is the thread for you!! ♥

[begonia]

Spicy that is a great question, and I agree with Bec ... I think it is the high sodium/potassium aspect more than the dairy. I haven't bothered tracking magnesium because it really is in everything, from vegetables to fruits to cereals. What I focused on more was my ratios ... so trying to really up my sod/pot relative to my dairy/mg. Anyhow, I think so long as you're feeling well I wouldn't worry too much about it. And I like your and DH's long term perspective on the whole maternity leave thing. Sorry this fever has taken such a toll on him!

Jen that is exactly how I am with my IL's! It is crazy, but at least your DH now has some parental figures he can turn to for support and that's super :-) So have you continued Paleo during your pregnancy?

I love getting up in the am and seeing what all our friends on the other side of the world have posted :-) It's fun because you know the thread will have had some action on it overnight!

TTC5 this is just baffling ... so AF is now late. I hate to say it but I guess the brown tinged CM is a sign of AF at this point. Man. Your symptoms were CLASSIC! Ah well. How "off" the diet were you? I've continued my prenatal, FA, and fish oil in the 2WW. The only other thing I was taking was EPO so it isn't like my supps change much in the 2WW. I'm still eating pretty TW style, but less overall food, and I've had more sweets. But part of my rationale is I'm NOT going to attempt next cycle. If I was going to keep at it I would have stuck much more closely to the diet. So how do you think you've done? That would determine whether you should go for July or wait til August, I think.

Iluv sounds like you think your witch is coming :-( BOOO!

[cemas]

welcome Petey to a bunch of lovely helpful women...
no AF yet , no symptoms but then am on prometrium....i usually stop it when i see brown or red. no Af signs too...
this is mysterious....and hate this wait!

ttc5 i too stop most supps in the 2ww but go on to ttc the next cycle as i have long cycles and don't O before day 20 earliest so enough time for supps and BSD...after a point u care less.....

[begonia]

Cemas have you POAS? How many DPO are you? FX!

[3Pink1Blue]

ttc5 - why did you stop it all during the 2ww? Many of the sups are safe for pregnancy so you really only need to stop a few in the 2ww. I'm still taking my fish oil and vit D. How long were you on the sups before the break?

Spicy - I was on the ig diet from December till late March. It wasn't too bad but it feels really restrictive after a while. In March I adopted Atomics philosophy of eat a ton of the healthy stuff and was much happier and ready for many more months of ttc. There's no reason to break from the GD plan as it's not focused on extremes (super high na/k and super low mg/ca) like ig.

Begonia - With very, very few exceptions I have maintained paleo, got more strict actually completely removing grains. Dh and I strongly believe it's why I'm feeling so good, the few times I strayed I felt nauseous and headachy. I'm excited to see how long I can maintain a no processed foods pregnancy before cravings drive me to evil lol

[cemas]

i am 13dpo today. have no more test but think AF is delayed due to prometrium. don't want to stop ir as there is always the faintest hope. usually prometrim delays me only by couple days. so will see.

what is Paleo 3PNB??

[3Pink1Blue]

Cemas - Paleo eating is basically about fresh, non-precessed foods. Lots of meats, fruits, veggies and nuts. We eat no grains, lentils or tubers. I did modified paleo while ttc still eating whole grain bread and potatoes but have since dropped those.

When will you test??

[princessap]

Okay ladies need your help please....We dtd last night as I had a positive OPK last night around 8pm....I just did another OPK and it is positive today around 2pm, but no more EWCM like yesterday. Should I do it again tonight or wait and see what tomorrow brings?? I usually O around cd14 and this is only CD11 so early for me! I was thinking I was o'ing due to EWCm and cramps and took a OPK just for fun!

[TTC5]

I'd miss it if no ewcm!!!

[TTC5]

ttc5 - why did you stop it all during the 2ww? Many of the sups are safe for pregnancy so you really only need to stop a few in the 2ww. I'm still taking my fish oil and vit D. How long were you on the sups before the break?

Spicy - I was on the ig diet from December till late March. It wasn't too bad but it feels really restrictive after a while. In March I adopted Atomics philosophy of eat a ton of the healthy stuff and was much happier and ready for many more months of ttc. There's no reason to break from the GD plan as it's not focused on extremes (super high na/k and super low mg/ca) like ig.

Begonia - With very, very few exceptions I have maintained paleo, got more strict actually completely removing grains. Dh and I strongly believe it's why I'm feeling so good, the few times I strayed I felt nauseous and headachy. I'm excited to see how long I can maintain a no processed foods pregnancy before cravings drive me to evil lol

I stopped and started a pre natal multi v instead as I wasnt sure what was safe.. umm have been on supps since January/February so a while!

[TTC5]

Hmm, I guess people do do back to back attempts but I see what you mean about skipping the supps for the fortnight. Did you continue the diet during the TWW?

Not really, I was eating lots due to extreme hunger lol but was pretty girly... no red meat, far less potato, no more tomato or banana lol

[TTC5]

you needed to add this face to your comment!:mad: hope you skip your monthly though:fx:

I knoww!

Now get this.. NO AF!! Dry as can be in over 18hrs?? This is not me at all... dh still thinks I am preg.. I just don't know :S

[princessap]

I'd miss it if no ewcm!!!

Would you stop for the rest of the month? or wait and see what OPK says tonight?
THis is early for me to O!

[TTC5]

Spicy, I answered in your other thread, but I think a break is suggested from the IG diet because one of the focuses is on sodium and potassium intake. And you shouldn't have too much over a long period of time.

I agree.

[TTC5]

Would you stop for the rest of the month? or wait and see what OPK says tonight?
THis is early for me to O!

Do you have any pre seed or egg whites?

[ttcboy2011]

I knoww!

Now get this.. NO AF!! Dry as can be in over 18hrs?? This is not me at all... dh still thinks I am preg.. I just don't know :S

oh my gosh!! we're all waiting to know! no BFP yet? I'm so anxious to know.:nails:

[Tink18]

TTC...I am going to say it. What the FUCK is going on? Have you peed on anything today? This is so bizarre? Are you cramping at all? I sure hope not. I hope this end result is fantastic. Fingers are still crossed since the witch hasn't showed up!

[TTC5]

No cramps... no test.. lol used my last one yesterday morning and didn't even consider buying any yesterday as thought I was out!

I know with DD3 I spotted like this...

TMI but I am sooo constipated and have been straining and pushing to no avail lol maybe I have pushed out some excess cm and the brown is left over from when I did bsf - remember it made me get funny cm?????

[TTC5]

AND to throw the spanner in the works lol woke at 4am with a leg ache... typical pregnancy thing for me.. get them all the time when pregnant lol now 5am and I am STARVING STILL ....

[princessap]

I do have preseed left...should I use it?
I am going to do another OPK tonight and if it is negative I am stopping but if it is positive what should I do?
I am cramping like crazy today too!!!

Hope you get a BFP this month!!!!

[TTC5]

I'm not too sure BUT you could use pre seed and keep it up with say 1ml inserts here and there before and after to keep nice and moist... that's what I did lol

[Tink18]

ohhhh i remember being really constipated before I found out I was pregnant with DD. It's all coming back to me now. But keep in my mind I didn't get a BFP for 3 week after AF was late. But I didn't have any spotting at all. I was just late. I knew I was pregnant. My original ob couldn't see me the day i went in for the blood test. It was july 10th. So i saw someone else. When the results came back negative. She says "sometimes people just skip a period" I'm like "yes when you are PREGNANT" She goes "you are not pregnant." I said " i have never missed a period in my life since i was 13 years old. And the one times i know i potentially made a baby you are going to sit here and tell me I just skipped a period some professional you are." Low and behold, Guess her got her BFP 10 days later, <---------This GIRL!!! Son I really think there is hope here!!!

[TTC5]

Aghhh I'm not waiting 3 weeks lmao!!! ;)

[begonia]

Aghhh I'm not waiting 3 weeks lmao!!! ;)

This.Is.BRUTAL.

Go buy a test NOW. Is your AF pretty regular? Or is it not that unusual to be a day or so late for you?

I WANT A BFP!!!! For you. For me, I'm still kinda hoping for a BFN. I bought some FRER today though so I'm ready to POAS all over next week!

Jen I love the idea of Paleo is why I asked. I have a good friend (male) who has been doing it for almost a year and he just swears he feels so good. I will crack up the day your body tells you it needs a Dorito though :-)

Tink that is nuttsy story! I wonder how it took so long for your body to register the baby was there?!?!

Want a laugh? SO I woke up this am with a vivid dream that I was holding a baby. Like, I FELT it. Then I look down and sweet DD2 was sacked out with her head on my belly :HH:

[TTC5]

I either spot then later that evening full flow or today would be a full flow would have woken to it. Just have to wait I guess.. my fingers this morning are soooo swollen I can't get my rings off.. must have fluid retention maybe from stopping all the salt? Feels horrible.

[begonia]

Buy a test buy a test buy a test. Pee on it in the store, right after you buy it. Don't be shy. Then get on here and tell us all about your BFP :fingers::fingers::fingers:

[3Pink1Blue]

TTC5- if you've been on the sups that long I don't think 2 wks off will be a big deal, fx there is no next month!!!

Begonia - dh went paleo after my m/c. He's lost 40lbs and feels better then he ever has, we converted the kids a few months ago and I'm glad to not have to hide food from them anymore. I feel better then I have in a long time but I've spent a year chunking up and eating tons so I'm a bit skewed. I too am waiting/fearing the day I start shoveling in crap because I'm pretty sure it'll come lol
So sweet about dd2 :)

Well I did it, I called and made my first appt. It's in 2 wks so no heartbeat but I'm gonna beg for an u/s. Not sure if I'm excited or terrified lol

[begonia]

Yay Jen! I think excited and terrified is probably perfect at this point, but here's to having the terrified melt away fast and just leave you being excited :-) And I really, really hope they will give you an u/s!!! That is incredible that your girls do Paleo too! I just think it has GOT to be sooooo much healthier than anything else out there. I've been phasing out the processed stuff for my girls and they do pretty well, but they loooooooove chips. Even those I just try to do homemade ones for them, but seriously, they see a bag of Doritos or Cheetos and flip out, LOL :-) Best bribes ever.

TTC5 are you going to test again or just wait it out at this point?

Have friends coming over to swim; feel some guilt having a glass of wine in my 2WW but also know I had FAR more than that with my other 2 girls since they weren't exactly planned. Not stressing it, but definitely trying to avoid it as much as possible.

[jane]

Buy a test buy a test buy a test. Pee on it in the store, right after you buy it. Don't be shy. Then get on here and tell us all about your BFP :fingers::fingers::fingers: soooooooo funny:rofl:

[jane]

im like clockwork, every 29 days but my last cycle(the one i was gonna try) was so different, i o'd earlier than usual and got my af 27 days so it can happen!

[jane]

im like clockwork, every 29 days but my last cycle(the one i was gonna try) was so different, i o'd earlier than usual and got my af 27 days so it can happen!
sorry, this was for princessap!

[TTC5]

LOL begonia, where is your self control and patience :P

[TTC5]

I dunno if I want to waste more money incase she comes late???? lol

[jane]

I dunno if I want to waste more money incase she comes late???? lolthis is such a cliffhanger!:nails:

[Plum3]

Buy a test buy a test buy a test. Pee on it in the store, right after you buy it. Don't be shy. Then get on here and tell us all about your BFP :fingers::fingers::fingers:

Do it, do it, do it!

[Plum3]

LOL begonia, where is your self control and patience :P

None of us have any left!

[TTC5]

Well looks like I am out, now have watery pink AF (after dtd this morning)... very weird for me :(

TMI but you know when your membranes go in labour this is how it looks..

[Plum3]

Oh bummer. So sorry :( I really thought this was the one. Onto attempt number 2 and hopefully the last!

[begonia]

Awwww man, TTC5, that is NOT what I was expecting! How are you feeling about it? Your DH's radar was off, it's his fault for getting us all hopeful and stuff! So what are your thoughts re: July vs August, given that you went off the diet in the 2WW? I wouldn't stress over the supps since you were taking a prenatal; I think that still gives you the boost of nutrients.

I have NO self-control, nor any patience, for the record :-) The only reason I haven't been POAS like a mad woman myself is for whatever reason I'm reluctant to know ... a sick part of me actually LIKES this waiting, since I never had it with either of our other pregnancies. I feel like this is some rite of passage that I'm finally getting to experience!

[TTC5]

He doesn't think it is a period... it was watery and pale pink like when your waters break and you get some spotting iykwim?
I'm not getting my hopes up!

I think I will see how my pH goes and decide wether to try or miss next cycle. I should ovulate last day of June!

[TTC5]

Oh and just found out my brother is expecting a baby now..

[begonia]

Well well well we have another auntie to celebrate then! Are you excited?

So w-w-w-wait, your DH is still not admitting he might be wrong on this? I like him. And I hope he's right!

[TTC5]

LOL he just thinks it's all too weird... not at all like my usual AF.. which I do agree.. knowing my history I am prob having a miscarry that's my biggest worry.. not that it can be fixed now if i am!

Yep I am excited!!!!!! =D

[3Pink1Blue]

Ttc5- are you sure it's not just sex spotting, that can happen in early pregnancy.

[begonia]

Ttc5- are you sure it's not just sex spotting, that can happen in early pregnancy.

Also a good explanation!

[begonia]

Jen your baby is forming his (FX!) eyelids! So sweet! I do adore the ticker. Can't help it.

TTC5 when is your brother's LO due? His first?

[TTC5]

Sex spotting omg love that lol!!

Well it could be.... it was mixed with his semen after sorry TMI... I had a shower put a liner on and there was like a watery pale pale colour on the liner but nothing now?

No AF pains either, I usually get bad ones when she comes... its all SO strange guys!

[TTC5]

Jen your baby is forming his (FX!) eyelids! So sweet! I do adore the ticker. Can't help it.

TTC5 when is your brother's LO due? His first?

Yep their first! They are 6 weeks approx yet to confirm!

[princessap]

tTC I cannot believe you havent tested yet! I have a
friend who always spots with her pregnancies, it is how she knows she is pregnant so maybe it is sex spotting! some women have really friable
cervixes and sex or pap smears etc can cause
spotting (sorry this is the nurse in me coming out!)

My OPK was negative tonight so I am not DTD again. Hoping this month is it
So confused why I oed early. caught it just by fluke and knowing what cm to look for. LOL.
Should I stop DTD now?

[TTC5]

Princess this is what it looked like, after you have a pap smear and you get pink mixed in the lube!!

I am now dry as can be :S

[princessap]

could be just spotting due to DTD!!!
fx for you.

[TTC5]

This is one big saga hey ladies :P

[Cheekymoo]

This is one big saga hey ladies :P

you are telling me! :) as i am reading the posts i am thinking will the next post be good news......or the next or the next......
TBH I think you are preggas as you are late...but as you said mabye it will stick mabye it won't....... but either way watery pink stuff AFTER sex is not the end of this one yet! FX FX FX FX FX FX FX FX!

[Cheekymoo]

TTC5- what was your temp today? wasn't on the chart?

[ELP]

Buy a test buy a test buy a test. Pee on it in the store, right after you buy it. Don't be shy. Then get on here and tell us all about your BFP :fingers::fingers::fingers:
:rofl: I had a quick picture of a lady just squatting by the till when I read this B:bigsmile: But I agree!!! Do you have a $ store near you for some cheapie tests, they don't have to be the expensive types!!!!!

[TTC5]

What the F is a $ store???? LOL!!!

[TTC5]

TTC5- what was your temp today? wasn't on the chart?

Didn't check it as I was up since 4am!

[TTC5]

you are telling me! :) as i am reading the posts i am thinking will the next post be good news......or the next or the next......
TBH I think you are preggas as you are late...but as you said mabye it will stick mabye it won't....... but either way watery pink stuff AFTER sex is not the end of this one yet! FX FX FX FX FX FX FX FX!


You know.... I think I am too... just too scared to admit it lol so there.. it's out now :P

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Spicy - I was on the ig diet from December till late March. It wasn't too bad but it feels really restrictive after a while. In March I adopted Atomics philosophy of eat a ton of the healthy stuff and was much happier and ready for many more months of ttc. There's no reason to break from the GD plan as it's not focused on extremes (super high na/k and super low mg/ca) like ig.



Yea, I agree, if this turns into a long term ttc, I will probably switch to a French gender/GD style diet- but I find it hard to consume so much food- you know? And, of course, it costs a fortune. In an way, I think the Paleo diet is the way to conceive a boy since it contains the meat and fruit/veg aspect, and less of the terrible carbs and sugar. I can see myself doing this too if we don't conceive by October. My husband desperately wants to drink coffee and whiskey! I keep telling him that those are the two worst things he could want to consume!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

You know.... I think I am too... just too scared to admit it lol so there.. it's out now :P

Aren't you crazy curious TTC5? Get a test!

[TTC5]

Found this, could this be true?

"With respect to implantation bleeding, you may not get it at all, and even if you do, it doesn't always mean implantation happened that day. One can even get brown spotting from previous implantation bleeding after six weeks of being pregnant as well"

Could this be left over from implantation?? We dtd doggie style tmi maybe it has irritated my cervix?

If no af tomorrow I am DEF going to test..

[TTC5]

Aren't you crazy curious TTC5? Get a test!

I am but trying to hold out just incase she does come iykwim.... lol

[TTC5]

Would it be safe to check my cervix or do you think I should avoid it incase I am, given the spotting and all?

[ELP]

What the F is a $ store???? LOL!!!
Do you not have the 'everything for a £/$' type stores with you?? They are greeeat, you go in to buy one thing and always come out with about 15:rofl: Our 'Poundland' sells 2 or 3 pg tests in a box for £1, so cheap as chips:agree: great for an emergency!!!

[TTC5]

Oh we have cheap stores but they dont sell preg tests haha!

I'm not feeling too well tonight, feels like the bones in my fanny are aching/being pulled apart and I have since wiped and had a handful of what looks like ewcm with pink streaks in it.. I have a feeling I have conceived but it's not sticking :(

Just my gut feeling..

I'm sooo sorry for going on and on and on... you must all be sick of it.

[Plum3]

Oh this is still going on?! I thought surely by now I would come on and there would be some sort of news. You must be going crazy not knowing for sure!

[Kris217]

What the F is a $ store???? LOL!!!

The dollar stores in America are great! So wish we had them here and the 99 cent shop!

[Kris217]

Oh this is still going on?! I thought surely by now I would come on and there would be some sort of news. You must be going crazy not knowing for sure!

I know huh, it's driving everyone nuts!!!

[ELP]

5, can you afford a frer atm?? That way you will definately know the answer, plus if it is a chemical then at least you know incase you wanted to skip next month:( Good luck, we all have fingers X'ed for you!!! xxx

[TTC5]

Think I will miss next month what do you think? I might go to the dr tomorrow morning if I can get in x

[TTC5]

hubbies tucked me in bed with panadol and heat pack, he feels so bad after this morning!!

I have a pad on so will see what happens.. either way we both know 110% this is not a period...

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Definitely! I had spotting with DD, but I also had a BFP at 12 dpo (could have been earlier). I also had spotting at 6 weeks and 8 weeks.

[jane]

I know huh, it's driving everyone nuts!!!
tell me about it, its like days of our lives! im not sick of it though ttc5:wink:

[jane]

hubbies tucked me in bed with panadol and heat pack, he feels so bad after this morning!!

I have a pad on so will see what happens.. either way we both know 110% this is not a period...aaaawwwww, sweet:awe:

[Plum3]

hubbies tucked me in bed with panadol and heat pack, he feels so bad after this morning!!

I have a pad on so will see what happens.. either way we both know 110% this is not a period...

What a sweetie your DH is.

Have you got any OPKs left? You could always try and use one as a HPT. It could be worth a shot?

[ELP]

hubbies tucked me in bed with panadol and heat pack, he feels so bad after this morning!!

I have a pad on so will see what happens.. either way we both know 110% this is not a period...5, I think then that you both need to know for sure what's going on, if not if af comes then your both going to be sad for something which may or may not have happened kwim. Send him to the store for a frer!

[Plum3]

5, I think then that you both need to know for sure what's going on, if not if af comes then your both going to be sad for something which may or may not have happened kwim. Send him to the store for a frer!

Yep, I agree.

[TTC5]

It's too late at night now, thanks girls. We be fine, see what tomorrow brings :) Will keep you all posted though if anything changes..

[ELP]

Ladies, can epo and fish oil be taken together?? Was there something mentioned about it earlier on, something to do with hormones?? I am having allok around IG, sending ladies this way;) and I forgot someone on there asked, many thanks!!

[ELP]

It's too late at night now, thanks girls. We be fine, see what tomorrow brings :) Will keep you all posted though if anything changes..

Of course, it must be v.late night with you atm:oops:

What strengths were your hpt's 5?? Do you know??

[Plum3]

I'm not sure about the fish oil and EPO. I'm sure someone else will know though.

[Kris217]

tell me about it, its like days of our lives! im not sick of it though ttc5:wink:

haha exactly!

[TTC5]

Of course, it must be v.late night with you atm:oops:

What strengths were your hpt's 5?? Do you know??

This they were 20-25..

So no more since the last wipe.. I keep wiping and checking lol the cramping has eased now too. might logg off and try get some rest x

[Kris217]

This they were 20-25..

So no more since the last wipe.. I keep wiping and checking lol the cramping has eased now too. might logg off and try get some rest x

Get some rest, let us know how you go in the morning! x

[Plum3]

Hopefully you get a good sleep tonight. xx

[princessap]

Thinking of you ttC and hope you got some sleep. Are you going to test today? Positive thinking! I still believe it could be due to DTD. i would not check Cp. If you are spotting due to a friable cervix it can cause more spotting.
good luck!

[princessap]

Quick opinion ladies! I got a positive OPK Wednesday night, early for me, so we DTD. Dh had released 48 hours before. It was positive yesterday at 2pm and negative 8pm so we
skipped last night. Should we dtd tonight or skip a few days??
thanks!

[begonia]

Princess I would bet you O'd early yesterday so you're probably OK to DTD tonight and not worry about O+12. If you want to be 100% safe though I'd skip tonight. But I really think you'd be fine.

Can't wait to see how TTC5 is feeling this am! At this point you have me a bit worried about you, lady! FX all is well.

[3Pink1Blue]

ttc5- I don't think we could ever get enough of this kind of drama, though I'm sure you're ready for it to end. FX you get some sleep and soon an answer.

Princess - thats a tough one, I say your timing was perfect so skip a day or so :)

[Flava]

Sex spotting omg love that lol!!

Well it could be.... it was mixed with his semen after sorry TMI... I had a shower put a liner on and there was like a watery pale pale colour on the liner but nothing now?

No AF pains either, I usually get bad ones when she comes... its all SO strange guys!

When you are pregnant your cervix is more sensitive . maybe because of that? tell your DH to be more careful and back off from the caveman stile! FX for you

[Flava]

Quick opinion ladies! I got a positive OPK Wednesday night, early for me, so we DTD. Dh had released 48 hours before. It was positive yesterday at 2pm and negative 8pm so we
skipped last night. Should we dtd tonight or skip a few days??
thanks!

I would skip for sure .No need to play with the devil right? But it's just me.

[cemas]

HI,
so started spotting yesterday night and pink wipes all morning. BFN....and waiting for the witch to come full bown:(
on the brighter side, i leave for a week vacation tomorrow to attend my cousins weding...glad it will keep my mind occupied elsewhener then this ttc!

[princessap]

Princess I would bet you O'd early yesterday so you're probably OK to DTD tonight and not worry about O+12. If you want to be 100% safe though I'd skip tonight. But I really think you'd be fine.

Can't wait to see how TTC5 is feeling this am! At this point you have me a bit worried about you, lady! FX all is well.

Just wondering why you think I oed yesterday morning when my opK was positive yesterday afternoon? I thought you oed after it went negative.

[begonia]

Sorry to confuse you Princess ... I didn't mean that you O'd yesterday morning, when I said " you O'd early" I meant early as in before the evening/late night. I meant I think you O'd between your + and - result, and used "early" to mean "not at night/overnight."

[princessap]

thanks. How soon after the opks go negative do you ovulate??
Will have to make an excuse not to dtd tonight. DH doesnt agree with planning/swaying.

[TTC5]

Full on bleeding now, on to July x

[begonia]

Princess my DH doesn't agree with planning/swaying either so the timing thing was definitely a bit of a bugger for me. From what I have read, you do ovulate very soon after the negative OPK. I had a link to a really cool chart that showed the different surges (estrogen, LH) and where the peak was relative to the O, but now of course I can't find it. But anyhow, it showed the LH decline sharply JUST prior to O, which is where it makes sense that you would get a negative and O shortly after that. Odds are you couldn't get that egg with any sperm from this evening, but to be safe I'd avoid DTD tonight.

[begonia]

Awww TTC5 what a saga it was this month. Sorry to hear you're out, but glad to hear you're getting ready for July! I really don't think you need to wait til August. Will you try two attempts this month or stick with the one-time BD?

[TTC5]

No idea..... what do you guys think?

I had two days of + opk what should I aim for?

This cycle was hellish, I have such a heavy flow and in alot of pain :(

[ams]

Hi all, tcc5 sorry to hear af arrived! I to am in the tww and still hoping but not feeling to confident! Have had cramps very tired and feeling a bit off but still getting bfn! My period is due Monday so will keep u posted !

Here's to July tcc5!!!!

[babydes56]

TTC5, oh i'm sorry hun! Better luck next month, glad to see you not down about it.

AMS, GL i hope AF stays away

[begonia]

Oh TTC5 I'm sorry this cycle is rough!!! Personally I think the 0-2 and 0 is the way to go, I didn't even want to bother with the one time thing. But you have to make the call! Do you know what you were doing when you got pg with any of your girls, then you can try to do the opposite? DD1 I have no clue, but DD2 I know we DTD pretty much every day the month we conceived.

Ams it isn't over for you yet - FX you get a BFP!

Someone on here asked about taking EPO and something else together and now I can't remember who, and I don't think it was answered ... I am going to go back and look ..

[begonia]

Ladies, can epo and fish oil be taken together?? Was there something mentioned about it earlier on, something to do with hormones?? I am having allok around IG, sending ladies this way;) and I forgot someone on there asked, many thanks!!

Here we go, this is the Q I was thinking about! Yes, EPO and fish oil are fine together. It is EPO and Flax that are not meant to be taken together, though I confess I am not sure why. But I am certain that is the advice.

[TTC5]

Oh TTC5 I'm sorry this cycle is rough!!! Personally I think the 0-2 and 0 is the way to go, I didn't even want to bother with the one time thing. But you have to make the call! Do you know what you were doing when you got pg with any of your girls, then you can try to do the opposite? DD1 I have no clue, but DD2 I know we DTD pretty much every day the month we conceived.

Ams it isn't over for you yet - FX you get a BFP!

Someone on here asked about taking EPO and something else together and now I can't remember who, and I don't think it was answered ... I am going to go back and look ..

Well we bd frequently lol!!!!

[TTC5]

Hi all, tcc5 sorry to hear af arrived! I to am in the tww and still hoping but not feeling to confident! Have had cramps very tired and feeling a bit off but still getting bfn! My period is due Monday so will keep u posted !

Here's to July tcc5!!!!

I hope this is your month!!!

[begonia]

LOL! Then I would shoot to incorporate some form of abstaining this time!

[TTC5]

LOL yes most def hehe

[begonia]

And I'm just going to say it, because it's true and it's making me nervous, but I keep getting nauseated today. Ugh. I would absolutely hate for this to be related to any BFP b/c nausea this early would make it a very, very long pregnancy ...

So let's just hope the nausea goes away :fingers:

[TTC5]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ttcboy2011]

Full on bleeding now, on to July x

I'm sorry TTC5. It's ok! July's the month. My AF is due Wednesday next week, so I can't wait.

[babydes56]

Begonia, that's an early sign of preg. How many dpo are you now. Funny you mention nausea that early because a similar thing happened with Wantalittleman, remember her? She said she had nausea at 3dpo & she was for sure preg

[begonia]

Babydes I am 4 dpo... Relatively sure I O'd Monday morning if not overnight on Sunday. I keep thinking it has got to be in my head but it is definitely for real, whether it is pregnancy related or not I guess we will know next week! I keep trying to eat to make it go away but it is persistent since this morning.

[sunnyebsh]

OMG....it's a BFP....I tested yesterday 9DPO with a FRER & I swear I saw something...had to hold it at different angles, to the light etc. etc...but it wasn't enough to say it is a BFP...so I tested this morning & got a a definite, faint, pink line straight away....omg omg omg....

I knew there was something with those OPK...I tested a few days again thinking it was a pregnancy test & got a faint positive...& had been googling ever since...read thatl ines on OPK could eventually lead to BFP & a few days ago blood red pin prick dots appeared on my breasts & stomach....never happened before...googles says could be early sign of pregnancy or other issues....I went with the first one.

FX for BFPs for all

[sunnyebsh]

No idea..... what do you guys think?

I had two days of + opk what should I aim for?

This cycle was hellish, I have such a heavy flow and in alot of pain :(

Sooo sorry...what a roller coaster ride month! FX for next month!!

I would BD the morning of the 2nd OPK.

[babydes56]

Sunny, wow congrats! That's 3 of us now with BFP, go blue team!

Begonia, sounds very promising for you but i know what you mean about the prospects of m/s starting this early. I'm not looking forward to it at all & mine usually starts around 6-8wks

[TTC5]

OMG....it's a BFP....I tested yesterday 9DPO with a FRER & I swear I saw something...had to hold it at different angles, to the light etc. etc...but it wasn't enough to say it is a BFP...so I tested this morning & got a a definite, faint, pink line straight away....omg omg omg....

I knew there was something with those OPK...I tested a few days again thinking it was a pregnancy test & got a faint positive...& had been googling ever since...read thatl ines on OPK could eventually lead to BFP & a few days ago blood red pin prick dots appeared on my breasts & stomach....never happened before...googles says could be early sign of pregnancy or other issues....I went with the first one.

FX for BFPs for all

This has lifted my spirits this morning! So happy for you!!!!

[TTC5]

Sooo sorry...what a roller coaster ride month! FX for next month!!

I would BD the morning of the 2nd OPK.

Mornings are out for out, so what else would you do? x

[TTC5]

Babydes I am 4 dpo... Relatively sure I O'd Monday morning if not overnight on Sunday. I keep thinking it has got to be in my head but it is definitely for real, whether it is pregnancy related or not I guess we will know next week! I keep trying to eat to make it go away but it is persistent since this morning.

I really hope your next!!! FX!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

princess - You O 24-48 hrs after the surge begins. You'll get a + 6 hrs after the surge begins. The longer the surge the later you'll O. So for example I have about a 24 hr surge and I O the morning after the +. My guess is you have a rather short surge as well and that egg has already popped :)

Cemas- sorry about af but I love you looking at the silver lining, have fun this weekend!

ttc5 - sorry about af, jeeze what a ride. I would dtd on the second day of the + as you probably O soon after, fx for July!!

AMS - fx af stays away.

Sunny - WOOHOO!! I love June!! Come check out the due in feb thread :)

Baby - fx you sail right passed 6-8 with no troubles.

[sunnyebsh]

Mornings are out for out, so what else would you do? x

Depends when you first get the postivie OPK...I guess you'll have to wait until the time comes...post on here & we'll advise...

How long did you BD after 1st OPK last month?

Where you testing with the digital?

I tested with IC & digital - IC - I never got a definite positive, just dark lines...but not positive (even after O)....so didn't count on them...I BD 12Hours after the digital smiley in morning...tested that evening again on digital smiley & it was negative.

[TTC5]

I tested with the strips off Ebay and last cycle I had two days positive, but cycle before had one day positive?

I was not prepared for 2 days + lol so I bd the night of the first + and dh had abstained for 4 days prior.

I will grab a digital if we can hunt one down.. do they work like strips, as in, will I get 2 days + or do they just show it the once?

[Plum3]

Sunny, congrats on the BFP :)

TTC, you've got a good attitude, onto July! I was looking at the digital OPK thingies on ebay, they don't seem too badly priced. I think someone mentioned that you can take the strip out of the machine to look for fade ins.

[TTC5]

Oh I couldn't find any from aus only usa? Can you link me please!!

[Plum3]

I just checked again and there are only USA ones now. I guess it would take too long to get it delivered from over there right?

[sunnyebsh]

I tested with the strips off Ebay and last cycle I had two days positive, but cycle before had one day positive?

I was not prepared for 2 days + lol so I bd the night of the first + and dh had abstained for 4 days prior.

I will grab a digital if we can hunt one down.. do they work like strips, as in, will I get 2 days + or do they just show it the once?

From what I've read on IG....digital OPK are the best / most accurate. The one is oz is 'Clear Blue' digital OPK...& come in a box of 7. They are expensive...so I used the IC...& when I was geting a darker line, I switched to the digital OPK & BD 12 hours after the 'smiley'.

Yes, they do work like strips...you may or may not get 2 days +....but are more accurate. I was testing with digital & IC & the digital showed the smiley face (positive), whereis the IC showed a dark line, but no positive. I have read alot on this & was told to trust the digital reading.

Last month I just used the IC... the closest I got was a dark line for 2 days, so switched to digital to see what was going on & it was negative also....so I missed the surge because the IC didn't work properly.

[Kris217]

OMG....it's a BFP....I tested yesterday 9DPO with a FRER & I swear I saw something...had to hold it at different angles, to the light etc. etc...but it wasn't enough to say it is a BFP...so I tested this morning & got a a definite, faint, pink line straight away....omg omg omg....

I knew there was something with those OPK...I tested a few days again thinking it was a pregnancy test & got a faint positive...& had been googling ever since...read thatl ines on OPK could eventually lead to BFP & a few days ago blood red pin prick dots appeared on my breasts & stomach....never happened before...googles says could be early sign of pregnancy or other issues....I went with the first one.

FX for BFPs for all

Wow congratulations, that's great!!!

[iluvmyman]

Sunny, Congrats, congrats!

I love all these BFP's!!!!

Sorry TTC5 about the BFN!

B, I'd give you a hard time and root you on for a BFP, but I know like me you didn't have your sway perfect on. I really really do want to give you a hard time though. :)

[TTC5]

Must hunt these down then!

[babydes56]

TTC5, are you saying that there's no place that sells Clearblue digital in Australia? They are pricey though

[Cheekymoo]

OMG....it's a BFP....I tested yesterday 9DPO with a FRER & I swear I saw something...had to hold it at different angles, to the light etc. etc...but it wasn't enough to say it is a BFP...so I tested this morning & got a a definite, faint, pink line straight away....omg omg omg....

I knew there was something with those OPK...I tested a few days again thinking it was a pregnancy test & got a faint positive...& had been googling ever since...read thatl ines on OPK could eventually lead to BFP & a few days ago blood red pin prick dots appeared on my breasts & stomach....never happened before...googles says could be early sign of pregnancy or other issues....I went with the first one.

FX for BFPs for all

Congrats Sunny! FX for a smooth 8 months :)

[TTC5]

TTC5, are you saying that there's no place that sells Clearblue digital in Australia? They are pricey though

No they do, just finding it hard tracking them down in my state, may have to make a trip to the city!

[sunnyebsh]

No they do, just finding it hard tracking them down in my state, may have to make a trip to the city!

You're from NSW? Priceline sell them as well as Cincotta Chemist online.

[TTC5]

No from Tas but we have priceline yes :)

How much are they?

[boyjoy]

Hi girls, I am back after a long break.. How you all doing.? Hope everybody is ok. I came back with a unexpected news. I went to an emergency US at 18 weeks for not feeling babies movement. Baby was healthy but dr said it s most probably a girl and showed me three lines. U/S was an old one but three lines was there. Can i keep hoping for a boy or the game over!? Whatever i am trying not to think about it since i have 20 weeks check up on Monday. So i ll see if it s true or not(i hope) I have a lot of work to do at home. ll come back to check you. Kiss you all. bye...

[TTC5]

Hello boyjoy!!!!!

No advice on the scan sorry but hope you and baby are doing well .. KUP!!! xxx

[begonia]

Boyjoy I am so glad to hear you and the baby are OK! Your post had me scared for a bit there! Good luck at the scan on Monday ... keep us posted. I hope you do hear boy!

Sunny congratulations on your BFP!!! Hope you have a healthy, wonderful pregnancy!

ITA the digital OPKS are worth the money, at least for me they were. In May I didn't use them b/c I was trying to conserve them for the attempt this month, and I never got a true positive on the regular old sticks. So I used the digis this month and found the surge easily. I'll definitely use them again if we attempt this fall. And yes, you can pop the sticks out and still use them to see your fade in pattern.

Thanks for the wishes, Iluv, LOL! Are you going to test this week?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Congrats to Sunny!

Sorry ttc5- next time! Just think, hopefully all of us will have our baby boys in our arms in the next few years. One cycle or two won't make a difference!

[DebH]

Congrats SUNNY! I'm going to test tomorrow morning - send me some luck!

[ams]

Hi all well I am out again this month:( can't figure it out I was sure I was pregnant! Think diet and supps making me feel like crap! Going to give it one more month than a break! Can't believe it's taken neatly 4 tries! I feel straight away with the girls! Any advice? How long is avg for people to conceive when swaying?

So for the rant but on verge of giving up
Ps. Do u think some women just can't carry boys? My mum had all girls too?

[begonia]

a few days ago blood red pin prick dots appeared on my breasts & stomach....never happened before...googles says could be early sign of pregnancy or other issues....I went with the first one.


Hmmm. I noticed the same dots on myself today in the shower. And I'm still nauseous. But only 5 DPO. No cramping. Lots of CM though.

Ams I'm sorry you're out! 4 months isn't a long time TTC for most people, KWIM? I understand you normally get pg sooner but maybe take it as a positive that this is not happening like it did the other times, since those were girls and you're shooting for a boy... I don't think it is that some can't carry boys. Are you only doing 1 attempt on O day? Because that could also explain why it is taking longer. I'm not sure of the stats on how long it takes swayers to conceive; I think the best you could do to figure that out would be to look at the surveys posted on the various sites and see how many months it took the posters to get pg. FX next month is lucky for you!

[sunnyebsh]

No from Tas but we have priceline yes :)

How much are they?

Approx $55 from Priceline....approx $47ish from cincotta online - pretty sure cincotta chemist deliver to anywhere in australia...but you have to work out postage etc

[sunnyebsh]

Hmmm. I noticed the same dots on myself today in the shower. And I'm still nauseous. But only 5 DPO. No cramping. Lots of CM though.

Ams I'm sorry you're out! 4 months isn't a long time TTC for most people, KWIM? I understand you normally get pg sooner but maybe take it as a positive that this is not happening like it did the other times, since those were girls and you're shooting for a boy... I don't think it is that some can't carry boys. Are you only doing 1 attempt on O day? Because that could also explain why it is taking longer. I'm not sure of the stats on how long it takes swayers to conceive; I think the best you could do to figure that out would be to look at the surveys posted on the various sites and see how many months it took the posters to get pg. FX next month is lucky for you!

FX....i noticed them around 7dpo...& had heaps of CM too! FX FX FX...

[begonia]

Thanks Sunny! When is your due date? Early March?

[Kris217]

No they do, just finding it hard tracking them down in my state, may have to make a trip to the city!

I saw them in Coles last night

[Kris217]

Hi girls, I am back after a long break.. How you all doing.? Hope everybody is ok. I came back with a unexpected news. I went to an emergency US at 18 weeks for not feeling babies movement. Baby was healthy but dr said it s most probably a girl and showed me three lines. U/S was an old one but three lines was there. Can i keep hoping for a boy or the game over!? Whatever i am trying not to think about it since i have 20 weeks check up on Monday. So i ll see if it s true or not(i hope) I have a lot of work to do at home. ll come back to check you. Kiss you all. bye...

Congratulations on your pregnancy! FX for your 20 week scan!

[3Pink1Blue]

Boyjoy - Glad you and babe are ok and don't get yourself too worked up, wait for the good scan where they'll be looking carefully :)

AMS - A lot of us who got pregnant easily in the past took time while swaying. I personally don't think you just can't have a boy, unless there is a genetic reason that would prevent the pregnancy we all have a chance :)
My mom had 2 girls, I have three, we both diet constantly and both carry a Vit D deficiency. Venture on over to ttc a girl and read what sways pink. I think you'll realize, like a lot us, you we're unknowingly swaying your butt off. Don't loose hope darlin'.

[princessap]

fx for all of us this month.

Question....should I still do an opk around cd 14 as that is normal for me or skip it seeing as I think i oed already?
Havent done dtd since Wednesday night when I got my positive opk. when do u think it is okay to dtd again? I was counting on tomorrow but then oed early!!

I remember reading on another board that longer luteal phases swayed gender....does anyone remember what gender??

[TTC5]

I saw them in Coles last night

Ours don't have them how annoying huh!

[TTC5]

fx for all of us this month.

Question....should I still do an opk around cd 14 as that is normal for me or skip it seeing as I think i oed already?
Havent done dtd since Wednesday night when I got my positive opk. when do u think it is okay to dtd again? I was counting on tomorrow but then oed early!!

I remember reading on another board that longer luteal phases swayed gender....does anyone remember what gender??

Never heard of this before, interesting to know though.

[TTC5]

Hi all well I am out again this month:( can't figure it out I was sure I was pregnant! Think diet and supps making me feel like crap! Going to give it one more month than a break! Can't believe it's taken neatly 4 tries! I feel straight away with the girls! Any advice? How long is avg for people to conceive when swaying?

So for the rant but on verge of giving up
Ps. Do u think some women just can't carry boys? My mum had all girls too?

Sorry your af came :( xxx

[iluvmyman]

Hi girls, I am back after a long break.. How you all doing.? Hope everybody is ok. I came back with a unexpected news. I went to an emergency US at 18 weeks for not feeling babies movement. Baby was healthy but dr said it s most probably a girl and showed me three lines. U/S was an old one but three lines was there. Can i keep hoping for a boy or the game over!? Whatever i am trying not to think about it since i have 20 weeks check up on Monday. So i ll see if it s true or not(i hope) I have a lot of work to do at home. ll come back to check you. Kiss you all. bye...

OK, boyjoy, I don't want to crush you but 18 weeks is pretty clear for gender. I would maybe try to adjust for a girl now.....I really want to be positive, I just think 18 weeks they can tell but keep your FX. Did you say babies or baby? Thank God all is healthy and good though. Good to hear from you.

[iluvmyman]

Boyjoy I am so glad to hear you and the baby are OK! Your post had me scared for a bit there! Good luck at the scan on Monday ... keep us posted. I hope you do hear boy!

Sunny congratulations on your BFP!!! Hope you have a healthy, wonderful pregnancy!

ITA the digital OPKS are worth the money, at least for me they were. In May I didn't use them b/c I was trying to conserve them for the attempt this month, and I never got a true positive on the regular old sticks. So I used the digis this month and found the surge easily. I'll definitely use them again if we attempt this fall. And yes, you can pop the sticks out and still use them to see your fade in pattern.

Thanks for the wishes, Iluv, LOL! Are you going to test this week?

Tomorrow a.m., B. On a perfect 28 day cycle AF should arrive on Tues. and I'm really guessing at what dpo day I'm at tomorrow. If no BFP then I will call it and assume AF will arrive, which would be OK but not AF while camping gosh darn it.

How you feeling then? And I agree on the digital OPK's make confirmation a no brainer.

[iluvmyman]

Congrats SUNNY! I'm going to test tomorrow morning - send me some luck!

GL!!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Congrats SUNNY! I'm going to test tomorrow morning - send me some luck!

Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[iluvmyman]

Hi all well I am out again this month:( can't figure it out I was sure I was pregnant! Think diet and supps making me feel like crap! Going to give it one more month than a break! Can't believe it's taken neatly 4 tries! I feel straight away with the girls! Any advice? How long is avg for people to conceive when swaying?

So for the rant but on verge of giving up
Ps. Do u think some women just can't carry boys? My mum had all girls too?

I know how you feel ams and I haven't been trying quite as long. Hang in there, it will happen. BTW, if you are over 35 years I think the Dr.'s will see you at 6 months of trying if you want to go that route to make sure all is cool. I've read that even when all is perfect there's only like a 20% chance of a BFP.

here's what Atomic wrote about the "can't carry" but I haven't read it.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?525-you-quot-can-t-quot-carry-a-baby-of-that-gender!

GL! I think w/ Atomic's diet that it's fine for you and you can be on it long term. What supps are you taking if you think that might be an issue and have you had any issues or has everything been great just no BFP's?

[iluvmyman]

fx for all of us this month.

Question....should I still do an opk around cd 14 as that is normal for me or skip it seeing as I think i oed already?
Havent done dtd since Wednesday night when I got my positive opk. when do u think it is okay to dtd again? I was counting on tomorrow but then oed early!!

I remember reading on another board that longer luteal phases swayed gender....does anyone remember what gender??

When in doubt take the test. :) I would princess just to be sure.

[iluvmyman]

fx for all of us this month.

Question....should I still do an opk around cd 14 as that is normal for me or skip it seeing as I think i oed already?
Havent done dtd since Wednesday night when I got my positive opk. when do u think it is okay to dtd again? I was counting on tomorrow but then oed early!!

I remember reading on another board that longer luteal phases swayed gender....does anyone remember what gender??

I don't know about the 2nd ? But I would think every 48 hrs would be cool.
I think there is a sticky about the phase.

[iluvmyman]

BTW - i am now on iron since my stored iron is low. The iron in my blood is fine. I decided to start w/ the 50mcg of thyroid meds for hypothyroidism but don't know how it will effect my cycle yet and might take a month or two?? They generally start w/ 25mg but I thought now why would I do that, I don't have time to mess around for 8 months to try and get the right dosage and you have 2 directions to go now and not just 1. You have to go in every 2 months for blood tests to see if where your TS/thryoid levels are until the figure out the right mcg's then every 6 months...f-o-r-e-v-e-r-. So suck but hopefully this will make it all better.

[princessap]

good luck tomorrow Iluv....have been thinking about you and hope you are doing okay :)

[iluvmyman]

good luck tomorrow Iluv....have been thinking about you and hope you are doing okay :)

Thanks P, life just keeps on going and so am I guess. I have my moments where I "break" though. I'm so glad for the blessing of hope with ttc though, and i'm so glad DH agreed to keep trying, although sometimes it feels undeserved.

How are you doing? I know this is a roller coaster and there has been a lot of disappointment. I'm praying for you!

[TTC5]

Who here takes vit D?

[Plum3]

Hi all well I am out again this month:( can't figure it out I was sure I was pregnant! Think diet and supps making me feel like crap! Going to give it one more month than a break! Can't believe it's taken neatly 4 tries! I feel straight away with the girls! Any advice? How long is avg for people to conceive when swaying?

So for the rant but on verge of giving up
Ps. Do u think some women just can't carry boys? My mum had all girls too?

Sorry about the BFN. I agree with the others, it seems a lot of people are taking longer to conceive when swaying. Four attempts may seem like an eternity but if you think about it, it's actually not that long. I really hope next month will be the one!

[Plum3]

BTW - i am now on iron since my stored iron is low. The iron in my blood is fine. I decided to start w/ the 50mcg of thyroid meds for hypothyroidism but don't know how it will effect my cycle yet and might take a month or two?? They generally start w/ 25mg but I thought now why would I do that, I don't have time to mess around for 8 months to try and get the right dosage and you have 2 directions to go now and not just 1. You have to go in every 2 months for blood tests to see if where your TS/thryoid levels are until the figure out the right mcg's then every 6 months...f-o-r-e-v-e-r-. So suck but hopefully this will make it all better.

Hopefully things with your thyroid settle down now with the meds. And good luck with testing tomorrow too!

[ELP]

I'm thinking that age may be affecting the pregnancy rate aswell, if you think about it alot of us are on babies 4+ so not the 1st time mums we used to be :oops::bigsmile:

[babydes56]

Kris127, when are you testing?

Ams, sorry for BFN. Just keep trying, it will happen

Iluv, cant wait to hear your results tomorrow, FX it's BFP for you

Princess, if you've ovulated already why would you be doing another opk

Boyjoy, glad all's well with baby

[babydes56]

DebH, have you tested today?

Iluv, hope thyroid settles down with meds

ELP, where are you with attempt?

Me, well i dont feel preg & am starting to worry. I am more hungry but my boobs have no sign of pregnany & that's what's bothering me. I also havent been getting up at night time to wee which is something i've always done with my pregnancies. I have a scan on the 30th June, i cant wait but am so nervous too. I dont think i'll be settled until i see the heartbeat. I'm already thinking of the prospects of trying again..I really hope all's well because it will crush my soul

[TTC5]

Babydes - when pregnant with my 4th I had NO symptoms whatsoever that even when going for my 12 week scan I was telling hubby to be prepared for no baby because I did not feel pregnant at all!

I only got sore boobs with my first 2 aswell :)

[babydes56]

TTC5, that's made me feel better already thanks. Just had an argument with my 19yr old daughter, she winds me up at times & now that i'm preg no matter what i say it's "oh you over reacting coz you preg" but that's not true because even if i wasnt preg i'd react in the same manner to things she says & does., aaargh!

[TTC5]

Oh I bet that makes you cranky!!!

[begonia]

Babydes ITA with TTC5, with DD2 I felt so good the WHOLE pregnancy ... and I remember being exactly the same as you describe, so concerned bc I didn't feel pg at all. With DD1 my boobs got huge almost immediately, they were sore, I was nauseated ... DD2, NOTHING. No symptoms what-so-ever. It was hard. I felt heaps better when I saw the heartbeat. I bet you are carrying a healthy bean in there, don't stress, try (I know it is hard) to enjoy the feeling good!

DebH FX for you this am!

Iluv I am also curious to know your test results! I'm glad you've got the meds thing sorted out, here's hoping they get things back where they ought to be. It seems like you've had a rough couple of months lady. Big, fat, virtual hug to you. I will say in spite of it you get on here and seem to be hanging in there like a champ. You're a strong lady for sure!

TTC5 what's the plan for July?!? I'm already excited for your next 2WW!

[begonia]

Kris shouldn't you be testing any day now?!?!

[begonia]

Oh and Princess I agree with Iluv, odds are since you already caught your surge, you won't have a + on CD14. But it will probably make you feel loads better to just test and know it is -, so I'd go ahead and POAS! I think you're a-ok to start DTD again; that egg has passed. FX you caught it and get that BFP this cycle!

I'm pretty sure Atomic said that the LP thing is an OWT, and that there's no proof long/short cycles sway either way.

[begonia]

I'm thinking that age may be affecting the pregnancy rate aswell, if you think about it alot of us are on babies 4+ so not the 1st time mums we used to be :oops::bigsmile:

LOL! So true ...

[DebH]

DebH, have you tested today?


Yes - Internet cheapie test that came up faint but definitely there BFP! No sign of AF and tons of Preg symptoms.
Not bad for 39(me) and 41(DH) year old on first try!!!

Hoping for stronger BFP tomorrow (Today is 12 DPO and AF always comes 11-13 DPO). I never tested positive until a few days after with the other 3.

[babydes56]

Debh, congrats!! That's fantastic news..here's to a happy 9 months. How many BFPs have the blue team got now?

Begonia, i'm trying not to stress but it's not easy. Like i said i'll only be settled when i see the heartbeat. When are you testing?

[princessap]

Kris127, when are you testing?

Ams, sorry for BFN. Just keep trying, it will happen

Iluv, cant wait to hear your results tomorrow, FX it's BFP for you

Princess, if you've ovulated already why would you be doing another opk

Boyjoy, glad all's well with baby

I oed early so just wondering if it was a false positive and maybe I should test again.

[begonia]

Princess did you use smileys or regular opks? If you're sure you had positive, even if you o'd early, then you don't need to test on cd14 except for your own peace of mind. If you got an opk and think it was only near positive then test.

Congrats Deb!!!!! Hope you have a wonderful pregnancy!!

Babydes I will test on Weds, 9 dpo. I'm still nauseated but it could be from allergies since we are having some warm, windy weather. ITA seeing that heartbeat helps alleviate any nerves!

[Alexis2007]

Sorry so late response....

Yes, I took soy hoping for MORE ewcm as when I had it last month, there wasn't a lot. Also I never have felt O pains, so hoping for that as well. Plus (don't hate me) I want twin boys! lol Here's to hoping.

[Alexis2007]

Ladies....

I'm currently CD10 waiting for O. Need advice on timing. How important is it really? I'm thinking bd every 3rd day and when I get a +opk. I'm not 100% sure on DH's sperm count. Back in 2005 (when we thought we couldn't conceive) DH has a SA done and they said it was low. I want to say like 20 million but I really don't remember. We ended up conceiving before we went to specialist but then we miscarried. I did some online research and put him on specific vitamins and we conceived again DD1 two weeks later. So now, I don't know if he STILL has low sperm count or if it's ok now. Right now he has been on Men's One a Day, CoQ10, L-Arginine, L-Carnitine, and Fish Oil for about 3 months. So, I'm thinking in order to get pregnant we need to bd more than just O day. Anyone agree/disagree? Advice? Do we start bd on first day of +opk or at first signs of ewcm? I have no idea how many days of +opk's I will get.

I'm really hoping this happens on the 1st try, but I know that's only in a perfect world. I really want that March baby!

[iluvmyman]

DebH, have you tested today?

Iluv, hope thyroid settles down with meds

ELP, where are you with attempt?

Me, well i dont feel preg & am starting to worry. I am more hungry but my boobs have no sign of pregnany & that's what's bothering me. I also havent been getting up at night time to wee which is something i've always done with my pregnancies. I have a scan on the 30th June, i cant wait but am so nervous too. I dont think i'll be settled until i see the heartbeat. I'm already thinking of the prospects of trying again..I really hope all's well because it will crush my soul

Will be praying for you, Baby!

[iluvmyman]

OK, all.....BFN for me and I'm cool w/ that since no sway really. Praying for next month and hopefully thyroid will be better and allow me to have a normal cycle since it seems to be like every other month I get jacked. I'll be out of town come Mon. morning.

Thanks everyone for checking in w/ me!!

[iluvmyman]

Yes - Internet cheapie test that came up faint but definitely there BFP! No sign of AF and tons of Preg symptoms.
Not bad for 39(me) and 41(DH) year old on first try!!!

Hoping for stronger BFP tomorrow (Today is 12 DPO and AF always comes 11-13 DPO). I never tested positive until a few days after with the other 3.

Good for you and I'm so jealous. :)

[iluvmyman]

Princess did you use smileys or regular opks? If you're sure you had positive, even if you o'd early, then you don't need to test on cd14 except for your own peace of mind. If you got an opk and think it was only near positive then test.

Congrats Deb!!!!! Hope you have a wonderful pregnancy!!

Babydes I will test on Weds, 9 dpo. I'm still nauseated but it could be from allergies since we are having some warm, windy weather. ITA seeing that heartbeat helps alleviate any nerves!

If it were me and the tests were cheap enough Princess I would test again so you know for sure. If in doubt, why not POAS. That way you won't stress that maybe you didn't O early and miss it. Not sure I'd use the digital except as back-up. I can't remember if u tested as B said w/ a digital when you think you O early.

[iluvmyman]

Ladies....

I'm currently CD10 waiting for O. Need advice on timing. How important is it really? I'm thinking bd every 3rd day and when I get a +opk. I'm not 100% sure on DH's sperm count. Back in 2005 (when we thought we couldn't conceive) DH has a SA done and they said it was low. I want to say like 20 million but I really don't remember. We ended up conceiving before we went to specialist but then we miscarried. I did some online research and put him on specific vitamins and we conceived again DD1 two weeks later. So now, I don't know if he STILL has low sperm count or if it's ok now. Right now he has been on Men's One a Day, CoQ10, L-Arginine, L-Carnitine, and Fish Oil for about 3 months. So, I'm thinking in order to get pregnant we need to bd more than just O day. Anyone agree/disagree? Advice? Do we start bd on first day of +opk or at first signs of ewcm? I have no idea how many days of +opk's I will get.

I'm really hoping this happens on the 1st try, but I know that's only in a perfect world. I really want that March baby!

There are other things more important than timing (diet and keeping your blood sugar up) but most of us will do the timing just as even a little extra benefit. I think a lot of us are trying to do: 1st O-2 after 3-4 days of abstinence, then on O (12 - 18hrs after 1st + opk), then maybe even 48hrs after that. If you have some time and don't need a BFP right away people do just at the 12-18 hrs after 1st + opk, but you said you wanted to do it more than once. I know Atomic has a sticky about it as well.

Myself and other have had problems w/ the L-Arginine but I'm not sure about men.

[princessap]

Princess did you use smileys or regular opks? If you're sure you had positive, even if you o'd early, then you don't need to test on cd14 except for your own peace of mind. If you got an opk and think it was only near positive then test.

Congrats Deb!!!!! Hope you have a wonderful pregnancy!!

Babydes I will test on Weds, 9 dpo. I'm still nauseated but it could be from allergies since we are having some warm, windy weather. ITA seeing that heartbeat helps alleviate any nerves!


I used smiley opks, not sure if that is considered digital or not. i had two days of positive opk and ewcm but oed 4 days earlier than normal so just wondering if it could be a
false positive? thanks

[Kris217]

Kris127, when are you testing?

Ams, sorry for BFN. Just keep trying, it will happen

Iluv, cant wait to hear your results tomorrow, FX it's BFP for you

Princess, if you've ovulated already why would you be doing another opk

Boyjoy, glad all's well with baby

I did test yesterday but got a bfn, i was 10dpo so i will wait a few more days then test again.

[Kris217]

Kris shouldn't you be testing any day now?!?!

I'm gonna wait til maybe day 13 or longer if i can wait!

[Kris217]

OK, all.....BFN for me and I'm cool w/ that since no sway really. Praying for next month and hopefully thyroid will be better and allow me to have a normal cycle since it seems to be like every other month I get jacked. I'll be out of town come Mon. morning.

Thanks everyone for checking in w/ me!!

Sorry girl, we've been getting a few too many bfn's here for my liking! Here to July!

[TTC5]

Babydes ITA with TTC5, with DD2 I felt so good the WHOLE pregnancy ... and I remember being exactly the same as you describe, so concerned bc I didn't feel pg at all. With DD1 my boobs got huge almost immediately, they were sore, I was nauseated ... DD2, NOTHING. No symptoms what-so-ever. It was hard. I felt heaps better when I saw the heartbeat. I bet you are carrying a healthy bean in there, don't stress, try (I know it is hard) to enjoy the feeling good!

DebH FX for you this am!

Iluv I am also curious to know your test results! I'm glad you've got the meds thing sorted out, here's hoping they get things back where they ought to be. It seems like you've had a rough couple of months lady. Big, fat, virtual hug to you. I will say in spite of it you get on here and seem to be hanging in there like a champ. You're a strong lady for sure!

TTC5 what's the plan for July?!? I'm already excited for your next 2WW!

Back on supps/drinks etc and not sure wether we will try this cycle or not yet..

[3Pink1Blue]

Congrats deb!

Sorry for the bfn's, boy do they hurt :(

Ttc5- I take vit d, I found out after dd3 that I have a severe deficiency. Why do you ask?

Just a quick check in and more bfn's and a bfp! I think that's 4 bfp's this month!
So I may have to kill dd2, she said to my mil, bil and his gf that she thinks I'm pregnant. Bil mentioned it today and I laughed it off. Next time they will outright ask and won't take anything short of a solid answer. It's stupid but I don't like to lie, it's almost like if I say I'm not it'll make me not. Mock away, I know it's stupid. At this point we will avoid them till mid July but we weren't looking to spill it then, though we may not have a choice. My pants won't button, with this being my 6th pregnancy my uterus is ready to grow and I fear it will out me well before we're ready. I'm an all out front kind of girl so there really is no hiding it. Still though I'd rather they think I'm just chunking up more, gotta muzzle that little brat lol

[DebH]

Good for you and I'm so jealous. :)

Thanks, I hope your sway goes perfectly next month!

[begonia]

Princess with a smiley (digital, same thing) you can't read it wrong, and it won't give a false +, so rest assured you o'd and caught it.

I take vit D too; it's in my prenatals.

Kris sorry for the bfn but maybe in a few days time it will be a better result :-)

Iluv, how are you with the bfn? I'm thinking ok since you didn't have your full sway on but I know a bfn can still be a bummer.

Jen, does DD2 know yet or just her intuition? I didn't think you told the girls yet? And I'm a bit superstitious like that as well so I can see why denying the pregnancy would make you uncomfortable. It's definitely a tough sitch; I'm sorry you'll have to deal with that for another 6-8 weeks. Maybe your uterus will cooperate and stay put for a bit :-)

Alexis I think DTD 2x is fine; with low (maybe, hope the supps helped) sperm count I would try for a 4 day abstinence before an O-2 attempt, then 48 hours abstain before O day.

[sunnyebsh]

Thanks Sunny! When is your due date? Early March?

According to FF 29th of Feb...leap year baby!

FYI - I just took an IC OPK for for the fun of it & the line is just as dark as the control line...so it worked for me...I had been geting faint positives on OPK before my BFP after reading about it as an early sign of pregnancy....don't think it works for everyone though...

[TTC5]

Jen wow well if your daughter is picking up on it must be a good sticky bubba!!

Vit D - thinking of starting it myself, does dh take it too and vit d do we look for, is it vit d3 or what?

[Cheekymoo]

Yes - Internet cheapie test that came up faint but definitely there BFP! No sign of AF and tons of Preg symptoms.
Not bad for 39(me) and 41(DH) year old on first try!!!

Hoping for stronger BFP tomorrow (Today is 12 DPO and AF always comes 11-13 DPO). I never tested positive until a few days after with the other 3.

Congratulations :) Def well done on hitting it first go! Thats hard enough when you are a spring chicken ! LOL

So June has turned out to be a good month girls and we still have 10days left...who is testing soon?

[Cheekymoo]

Alexis- I agree DTD x2! 4day abst before 0-2 then do again on o. That is my plan for month 2 if month one doesn't work! I have no patience and don't think i can maintain this diet for endless months !

Jen - LOL at your daughter they say kids know stuff like that!

TTC5- why are you thinking of taking Vit d? I don't take it....but not sure what the benifit is? mabye I should be taking it too?

****Warning TMI ****As for me Already stressed out LOL- worried these supplements have stuffed up my cycle with no real proof- just my period came strong for 2 days and very light since- which is different to every other time my whole life ! Normally it is a 5 day affair gets light day 5/ spot day 6 mabye- I am trying to tell myself change may be good as i got girls the last 2 times but am stressing My fertility is up the creek !! .....hmmmm as i said no real proof......mabye i should add very crazy and hormonal to my symptoms....LOL

[TTC5]

I have heard vit d sways blue?

[Plum3]

I'm going to take Vit D. Here's the thread on it... http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?2139-Vit-D

[Plum3]

Congrats Deb. Wishing you all the best for the pregnancy.

These BFNs need to bugger off, they're not wanted around here.

[Plum3]

With DHs supps does he just continue to take them until confirmed BFP? He doesn't need a break before that?

[iluvmyman]

I used smiley opks, not sure if that is considered digital or not. i had two days of positive opk and ewcm but oed 4 days earlier than normal so just wondering if it could be a
false positive? thanks

2 days of positive smiley's seems pretty definite but if you want to, test again. 4 days isn't crazy and I think you are not taking any supps?

[iluvmyman]

Princess with a smiley (digital, same thing) you can't read it wrong, and it won't give a false +, so rest assured you o'd and caught it.

I take vit D too; it's in my prenatals.

Kris sorry for the bfn but maybe in a few days time it will be a better result :-)

Iluv, how are you with the bfn? I'm thinking ok since you didn't have your full sway on but I know a bfn can still be a bummer.

Jen, does DD2 know yet or just her intuition? I didn't think you told the girls yet? And I'm a bit superstitious like that as well so I can see why denying the pregnancy would make you uncomfortable. It's definitely a tough sitch; I'm sorry you'll have to deal with that for another 6-8 weeks. Maybe your uterus will cooperate and stay put for a bit :-)

Alexis I think DTD 2x is fine; with low (maybe, hope the supps helped) sperm count I would try for a 4 day abstinence before an O-2 attempt, then 48 hours abstain before O day.

I'm just very very slightly bummed but I'm OK really, I didn't expect a BFP at all so I'm not surprised I guess. Looking forward to hearing about you though.

Thanks Kris!

[iluvmyman]

Alexis- I agree DTD x2! 4day abst before 0-2 then do again on o. That is my plan for month 2 if month one doesn't work! I have no patience and don't think i can maintain this diet for endless months !

Jen - LOL at your daughter they say kids know stuff like that!

TTC5- why are you thinking of taking Vit d? I don't take it....but not sure what the benifit is? mabye I should be taking it too?

****Warning TMI ****As for me Already stressed out LOL- worried these supplements have stuffed up my cycle with no real proof- just my period came strong for 2 days and very light since- which is different to every other time my whole life ! Normally it is a 5 day affair gets light day 5/ spot day 6 mabye- I am trying to tell myself change may be good as i got girls the last 2 times but am stressing My fertility is up the creek !! .....hmmmm as i said no real proof......mabye i should add very crazy and hormonal to my symptoms....LOL

I forgot what you are taking but they messed me up big time and I quite every L- supp and green tea supps. Just Vitamins for me. I'd stop them if you think they are effecting you and they effect people differently. You are so cute though, that wasn't tmi at all. :)

[iluvmyman]

With DHs supps does he just continue to take them until confirmed BFP? He doesn't need a break before that?

I've not heard the men need a break. If you get a BFP I would think he could stop, but it could be worth it for him to keep them for health if they aren't messing w/ him.

[Plum3]

I've not heard the men need a break. If you get a BFP I would think he could stop, but it could be worth it for him to keep them for health if they aren't messing w/ him.

I think he might actually want to keep taking some of them anyway. He has to stop whey protein in a few months so he's looking for other ways to help with his strength training and blah, blah and blah. Obsessed much?

[TTC5]

I'm going to take Vit D. Here's the thread on it... http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?2139-Vit-D

Cheers Bec x

[ELP]

ELP, where are you with attempt?Hiya babyD, how are you feeling!!!!!!!!! I'm gonna have a go this month I reckon! I don't know why I just feel a bit more confident maybe?? But I have been having the strangest mix of cm the past week sorry for tmi! I think I will ov on the 24th so plan to bd on the 22nd;) So we will see what July brings!! You never know I may be right on your heels:bigsmile:

[ELP]

Massive belated congratulations to both sunnyebsh and DebH!!!!! Two more ladies riding the lucky June train!! I wonder who is carrying the twins;):rofl:

[Alexis2007]

Thanks for the suggestions ladies :D But my O date is never on the same day (I average cd15 though) so how will I know when to do O-2?

[begonia]

Thanks for the suggestions ladies :D But my O date is never on the same day (I average cd15 though) so how will I know when to do O-2?

This is the eternal trick question, Alexis! I was trying to do 0-2 and 0 a week ago but O'd day early, so ended up doing an 0-1 and an 0. It is hard to guess. I tried to use the fade in pattern on my OPK's but it didn't work out. I do think timing is one of the least important factors, but it still would be nice to get it right! All you can do IMO is try to watch your CM, CP and OPKs and do your best guess.

[begonia]

Cheekymoo FWIW I'm with Iluv and didn't take any cycle messing supps... that said, my AF changed on the diet/vitamins alone. I ended up having spotting for 2-3 days prior to AF while on the boy diet and I never had that before. I do think you should look at it as a potentially positive sign, that your cycles are changing, because it is an indicator your hormone levels have changed. And your cycle doesn't sound unhealthy (like if it suddenly went to 6 days of heavy bleed or something) so I wouldn't worry about it!

[begonia]

Bec FWIW my DH is only taking fish oil, a b-complex with zinc, and vitamin D. And he has been taking those for like, a year ... and will continue because he wasn't taking them for swaying reasons anyhow. He's not down with the sway-action :-)

[begonia]

Sunny the leap year baby is so fun :-) Surely that baby (boy, FX!) won't actually come on the due date though! Has anyone had their DC come on the due date? My DD2 came the day after, so pretty close ... actually went into labor in the early morning hours after her due date. DD1 was an induction after her due date.

My allergies are BAD today!!! :-( And my kids got up at 5am bc DH left early for work. I need to think of something fun to do today to cheer me up 'cause I'm CRANKY right now, LOL!

[3Pink1Blue]

B- nope haven't told the girls yet, dd2 can't keep a secret (obviously) which is why we weren't going to tell them till we told everyone else. We've started to discuss plan B lol
As far as due dates go I've also had one arr the day after, the other two were 6 and 7 days late. I'm a very comfy home and they had to be forcibly removed via pitocin.

ttc5- yeah vit d3 and dh does take it too, he works in an office so we fear he doesn't get enough. It definitely sways boy, more boys are conceived in fall, after months of soaking in the vit D and eating fresh summer foods. More girls are conceived in spring after a a winter of staying indoors with little to no vit D exposure or fresh healthy foods.

Freaking out a little this morning, tiny bit of brown blood in my panties and when I wiped. It wasn't pink and it wasn't a lot but still. Hoping its just sex spotting from Saturday and trying to stay calm. I will be taking it easy today and probably peeing every 20 minutes just to check.
On the plus side dh says the glow has hit, my bff's mom asked her if I was preg because she noticed it too.

[babydes56]

3PNB, sorry to hear about brown blood but i dont think it's a worry because it could just be old blood. It could also be from Sat night sex. My DH has been away with work for the last 3 wks so he came home this w/end for Father's day & when we dtd it felt really strange & weird up there, hmmm dont know why.

Kris, sorry for bfn but 10dpo is still early so keep testing

Begonia, cant wait to hear your results i bet you preggers!!

Do you remember me saying that i think a friend of mine is secretly hoping i have another girl, well she rang me on Sunday & we got talking about me being preg & i said i wasnt feeling preg & the first thing she said "it's a girl" & i asked why & she said well i know someone who had no symptoms & she's having a girl. When i told DH he reckons she's your friend & she knows how much you want a boy so why would she say things like that you. Who needs enemies hey

[Zivic-Bubac]

3PNB brown blood is old blood and it's ( almost 100%) nothing :luck: Pink and God forbid! fresh blood are bad things.
It also could be cervix irritation from having sex.

Here's helpful link http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3879-Bleeding-again...ugh! :luck:

[3Pink1Blue]

Thanks ladies, I've got no cramps and did a gentle clean out and haven't seen anything since. Scared the sh*t out of me though so poor dh isn't going to be getting any for a while lol

baby - Have you ever watched "I didn't know I was pregnant"? Just as many sneak attack babies are boys as are girls, I've had one blissful, one I wish I would just die pregnancy and one in the middle and they all yielded girls. No symptoms doesn't mean anything. That said I also have a friend rooting for a girl, she loves my girls and wants me to have 10 more of them. She's a single mom with one son and is living vicariously though my reproduction. She does however know I want a boy and wants that for me but always says she'll be thrilled, for me or her lol, no matter what I get.

Cheekymoo - I too am in the no messing with your cycle camp and like the others things changed a bit all on their own.

Well it seems my blissful run is over, It started Friday and I was hoping it was a one day thing but no luck. I'm not barfy just icky. Nothing sits well but nothing in particular is getting me either. Already breaking out my m/s arsenal and am hoping to kick it's ass in a matter of days.

[begonia]

Oh Jen I bet the blood was a scary find; odds seem very much in favor of it being totally OK though. Especially if you haven't seen a bit more. Likely just what everyone said, old blood. So sorry to hear your m/s is starting; here's hoping you do in fact kick it to the curb! What's in your arsenal?!?

On the "friends" (yours sounds like not the best one, Babydes... but that is super sweet about your friend, Jen, who loves your girls) and their comments, that's part of the reason I don't want to find out ... if I do have a 3rd girl I don't want to deal with all the comments while she's still in utero; I just want to enjoy the pregnancy. If anyone dares make a comment once she's out I'll shove a dirty diaper in their mouth :-) Of course not finding out I'll have to deal with everyone saying "oh, why bother finding out since it'll be a girl, of course..." People can be so insensitive.

But Babydes your sway you posted looked absolutely fantastic, so if you've got a girl in there she is definitely meant to be but I'm betting it is a boy! Jen did you post your sway?

ITA that pregnancy symptoms, heart rate, how you carry ... all of that is rubbish IMO for gender prediction. My 2 pregnancies were so different and I was convinced that meant #2 would be a boy. HA. That clearly didn't work out, lol.

[3Pink1Blue]

B- yep I posted my sway, can't link to it since I'm on my phone.
My m/s arsenal is b-6 2-3x a day, preggie drops/pops, peppermint, lemon, club soda with lemon/lime and listening to cravings. Nasty as it sounds w/dd#1 chocolate covered chocolate donuts and cream soda stopped my m/s in it's tracks. Sadly I'm not craving any magic food yet and am just finding more things to avoid. Luckily I had some preggie pops from my loss and they're helping while I figure the rest out.

[Alexis2007]

This is the eternal trick question, Alexis! I was trying to do 0-2 and 0 a week ago but O'd day early, so ended up doing an 0-1 and an 0. It is hard to guess. I tried to use the fade in pattern on my OPK's but it didn't work out. I do think timing is one of the least important factors, but it still would be nice to get it right! All you can do IMO is try to watch your CM, CP and OPKs and do your best guess.

My O can be from CD12-CD18!! The past 2 months it has been CD 18, so I'm hoping lol. But I did take soy so I'm aware that can change O as well. I'm getting some cramping today but idk if it's O pains as I've never experienced them before.

I'm doing my opk's every day now and looking for a fade in pattern. It recommends testing opk's with afternoon urine but with all this water I'm drinking I think it may be too diluted. I tend to drink less in the mornings so will it be ok just to do it about mid-morning? I don't want to miss my surge. I'm CD 11 today and -opk.

Thanks so much for helping me!

[begonia]

Jen I'm going to go look for your sway! I probably already read it and commented and then totally forgot :wink: *sigh* 33 and the memory is already not so good :mad: I am definitely filing away your tips, those are great! LOL at the cream soda and donuts though!

Alexis soy can for sure mess with your O; I know Cemas had a crazy, long (I want to say 50 some days?) cycle from the soy. But I also know another gal from IG whose O moved up early from it! I took it one cycle months ago, like maybe November, and it didn't change mine. I never took it again b/c it didn't do anything + for me. So who knows?!? You're smart to start the OPK's already!

Re: testing and the holding I HATE that. I'm a frequent pee-er :bigsmile: What I did was drink some in the am, stopped drinking by 9, had a pee at 10, then held it til at least 1 (I did have a bit to drink in the 3-4 hour wait) and would take my 1st OPK of the day somewhere around 1-2. Then I would drink some more, pee at 3, and hold til 6-7 to take the next one. I do think the holding for 3 hours minimum is key to getting an accurate read!

Re: timing, I would just try to DTD every 2-3 days and hope for the best ... ideally when it comes to getting the +OPK you won't have DTD for 48 hours. Don't stress it too much for sure .... I think diet is waaaaay more important. But I totally understand wanting to get timing "right" since I was definitely up in arms about it myself when it came to the actual attempt. And I ended up with 2 attempts 24 hours apart :mad: But whatever will be will be, I'm happy with all the other stuff I did :happy:


How many days of +OPK do you get? That is the other thing I've heard about the soy ... it can give you a really strong O. So you might end up with 2-3 days of +OPK if you've not had that before.

[Alexis2007]

Jen I'm going to go look for your sway! I probably already read it and commented and then totally forgot :wink: *sigh* 33 and the memory is already not so good :mad: I am definitely filing away your tips, those are great! LOL at the cream soda and donuts though!

Alexis soy can for sure mess with your O; I know Cemas had a crazy, long (I want to say 50 some days?) cycle from the soy. But I also know another gal from IG whose O moved up early from it! I took it one cycle months ago, like maybe November, and it didn't change mine. I never took it again b/c it didn't do anything + for me. So who knows?!? You're smart to start the OPK's already!

Re: testing and the holding I HATE that. I'm a frequent pee-er :bigsmile: What I did was drink some in the am, stopped drinking by 9, had a pee at 10, then held it til at least 1 (I did have a bit to drink in the 3-4 hour wait) and would take my 1st OPK of the day somewhere around 1-2. Then I would drink some more, pee at 3, and hold til 6-7 to take the next one. I do think the holding for 3 hours minimum is key to getting an accurate read!

Re: timing, I would just try to DTD every 2-3 days and hope for the best ... ideally when it comes to getting the +OPK you won't have DTD for 48 hours. Don't stress it too much for sure .... I think diet is waaaaay more important. But I totally understand wanting to get timing "right" since I was definitely up in arms about it myself when it came to the actual attempt. And I ended up with 2 attempts 24 hours apart :mad: But whatever will be will be, I'm happy with all the other stuff I did :happy:


How many days of +OPK do you get? That is the other thing I've heard about the soy ... it can give you a really strong O. So you might end up with 2-3 days of +OPK if you've not had that before.

I have absolutely no idea how many +opks I would get. This is my first cycle using them. I should have started them earlier so I would know, but we are on a tight budget and I'm lucky to even be able to sway and buy all the extra food/supps that I normally don't buy. DH is being a great sport about things as he really wants a boy too ;) I'm hoping the soy does give me a strong O and get a couple of days of +opks. That and temping I'll think I'll do ok on bedding. I guess I won't stress too much about the timing. I think 2 day abstinence is good enough for DH's sperm count.

I think I'm doing well on the diet. Maybe not as well as some of you girls but it's a HUGE change from what I usually eat lol! I am by no means a salt eating person! I just hope it works.

[begonia]

Alexis I think you're in a good spot to have a GREAT sway, so really ... don't sweat the timing. There's a thread on here somewhere (I'll see if I can find it, shouldn't be too far back) where we asked the boy moms to say what they did as far as timing/abstinence when getting their boys, and it was all over the map. Timing is probably the hardest thing to control so take comfort in the fact that the rest of it (what diet, exercise, supps you do) is totally within your control. Good luck and keep us posted!

[begonia]

Jen I totally read your sway before, and commented, and forgot, LOL! Can't believe you got that BFP over 2 weeks ago now, almost 3!

[princessap]

jen. sorry to hear about your scare today. Like everyone else said brown blood is old blood and probably nothing to worry about, but I know how hard it is to not worry after a loss. Thinking of you.

Kris-sorry about the bfN, they suck :(
But u are still early. FX

Iluv- glad you seem okay with the bfn. Are you attempting in July?

Well I am roughly 4-5dpo (ovulated last Thursday, not sure if I count that day or not?)
I already feel like I am out. Some mild lower tummy cramping today :(
It sucks as this was my last month swaying so I am really hoping for a BFP!!

[begonia]

Princess count the day after you ovulated as CD1, so Friday. That would put you at 4 DPO today. I'm sorry you're feeling down about it already... I hope you get your BFP this month!

[babydes56]

Alex, i agree with B with all the great advice she's given you. GL with your attempt. I took soy once & didnt ovulate at all & ended up with a 70day cycle!

B, thanks i did what i could with my sway & the rest is not in my hands. I would love to not find out but i know i couldnt resist asking on the day besides DH wants to know too. Are you testing on Wed, how you feeling?

Princess, i hope this is your month!

[begonia]

Babydes it will be hard for me to not find out, but DH has always wanted a surprise so when he agreed to a 3rd it was something I agreed to do. And now I'm thinking I'll be OK with it, but I know when I am actually there getting a scan I will be beside myself wanting to know! I'm hoping I'll get a good nub shot so I can at least have a guess at it.

I think I'm going to test tomorrow, LOL! I feel OK today, my nausea is still here but it really could be tied in to my allergies. We'll see ... but I'm ready to jump on the POAS train and see where it takes me :-) A BFN tomorrow (8DPO) is quite expected, and really, I'm 100% OK if it didn't happen for me this month. Part of me doesn't want it to be over yet.

[LolaInLove]

What's up ladies? I just got that iPhone app so read through all posts and yay for new preggies! Congrats Sunny and Deb!!!!! I will jump on later, been at ILs for 5 days and no computer access, and were pretty much busy all day. Hope everyone is doing well...I poas yesterday (12dpo) hoping for a BFN (this was an oops month for newbies reading this!) and it was indeed. So I drank my face of with my MIL and SIL all day. LOL
And welcome to the team blue thread on that note!

Check back later!!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

B- I think thats where I am on the gender, don't think I want to know for sure but I would love a great nub shot to obsess over :bigsmile: Sorry your allergies are kicking your ass but fx for a bfp!!

Princess - still feeling positive for you :)

Lola - drink it up and have some fun, you deserve it :)

No more brown since this morning, my panicking has ceased for the time being. Thanks ladies for your support and optimism, it really means so much.

[begonia]

Cheers, Lola! That is one big reason I will be a-ok with a BFN ... I have a super fun girls weekend planned in July, and it would be a wee bit less fun if I'm knocked up. And a heck of a lot less fun if knocked up with m/s. SO ... enjoy yourself now, b/c before too long you'll be a pg party pooper :bigsmile:

Jen ITA ... I will nubsess to no end, but I'm really on board with waiting. I do think it will be fun, boy or girl, to have that moment at birth. If I'd done it once already I might not be as into it, but since we've not yet had one that way I am going to go with it and try (try try try) not to fret about gender much once I'm pg. Have you had a "surprise" with gender at birth yet? I am so glad to hear no more spotting! When is your appointment? I know you scheduled it but now can't remember when.

I'm excited to POAS tomorrow, LOL! Even though I know the odds of it being BFP are slim to none :happy: I really can't decide if I want a BFP or BFN anyway so am more or less just curious to know the answer either way, and a test at 8dpo won't really tell me much. But it's a start!

[TTC5]

Sunny the leap year baby is so fun :-) Surely that baby (boy, FX!) won't actually come on the due date though! Has anyone had their DC come on the due date? My DD2 came the day after, so pretty close ... actually went into labor in the early morning hours after her due date. DD1 was an induction after her due date.

My allergies are BAD today!!! :-( And my kids got up at 5am bc DH left early for work. I need to think of something fun to do today to cheer me up 'cause I'm CRANKY right now, LOL!

My first was a due date baby :)

[TTC5]

B- nope haven't told the girls yet, dd2 can't keep a secret (obviously) which is why we weren't going to tell them till we told everyone else. We've started to discuss plan B lol
As far as due dates go I've also had one arr the day after, the other two were 6 and 7 days late. I'm a very comfy home and they had to be forcibly removed via pitocin.

ttc5- yeah vit d3 and dh does take it too, he works in an office so we fear he doesn't get enough. It definitely sways boy, more boys are conceived in fall, after months of soaking in the vit D and eating fresh summer foods. More girls are conceived in spring after a a winter of staying indoors with little to no vit D exposure or fresh healthy foods.

Freaking out a little this morning, tiny bit of brown blood in my panties and when I wiped. It wasn't pink and it wasn't a lot but still. Hoping its just sex spotting from Saturday and trying to stay calm. I will be taking it easy today and probably peeing every 20 minutes just to check.
On the plus side dh says the glow has hit, my bff's mom asked her if I was preg because she noticed it too.

Brown blood sounds fine too me xoxoxoxo

[ams]

Hi again... A little bit of a problem here! You see on sat I had some pinkish mucus when I went to loo and them on sun some brownish stuff when I went to loo. I took a pg test and bfn on sat it was an ic one but still no af for me. Just took another one with ic but bfn I had only being to toilet 1.5 hours before . So Iam about 2 days late what do u think is wrong?? Any help

[Zivic-Bubac]

2 days late is not very late, so from this point it could go either way - your body is preparing for af or it's adjusting to the fact you are pg. I'm not helping, sorry!

About your previous question how long did it take to get pg with swaying - from what I observed http://yoursmiles.org/psmile/science/p0317.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/p-science.php?page=) ( during a year on forums) it depends mostly on how old are you. The younger, the quicker it goes.
Above 30 - a bit longer, and above 35 - a life time :hair: I'll be 39 in Oct and I'm swaying for 10 months. However, I kinda think, if I would stop while 'boy lifestyle' I would get pg much easier and probably with a girl again, which of course is not an option :wink:

[TTC5]

ams - I am with Zivic on this one wish I was more help! xx

[TTC5]

Hey Z, we will be ovulating together this cycle ;)

[Plum3]

Ams, I'm with the others on this one. It could go either way. Sorry it's not much help.

3PNB, I had a little post sex bleeding with DD2, it totally freaks you out hey? Of course, it was nothing which I'm sure yours is too.

Begonia, I'm excited that your excited about POAS tomorrow because I'm curious too!

Lola, glad you were able to get your drink on :)

Princess, why is this your last month of swaying? You might have mentioned before but I've totally missed it. It's still early so hoping you get that BFP.

[Plum3]

I know ideally we shouldn't drink alcohol pre TTC on the diet and supps but would a few drinks about 4 weeks before attempt really hurt? DH and I are both keen to try sooner but one of the reasons we were going to wait was because we have weddings and hens/bucks nights in Oct/Nov. But we are getting so impatient. Or do you think we should just wait like we originally planned???

[princessap]

Ams, I'm with the others on this one. It could go either way. Sorry it's not much help.

3PNB, I had a little post sex bleeding with DD2, it totally freaks you out hey? Of course, it was nothing which I'm sure yours is too.

Begonia, I'm excited that your excited about POAS tomorrow because I'm curious too!

Lola, glad you were able to get your drink on :)

Princess, why is this your last month of swaying? You might have
mentioned before but I've totally missed it. It's still early so hoping you get
that BFP.

I decided to stop swaying after this month because it has taken me so long to get pregnant again. With all my other pregnancies the longest it took was 3 months. I am 35 so dont want to spend forever swaying if it will stop me in some way from getting pregnant. I am really only doing diet and timing, no supplements.
We are going on a family vacation in july so i am just going to let whatever happen happen.

[Zivic-Bubac]

Hey Z, we will be ovulating together this cycle ;)

My af is late, not because I'm pg, but bcos my cycle is a mess :hair: That would delay my O date in girl biorhythm and girl Moon sign http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t2412.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-rtfm.php?page=1) not to mention New Moon. My perfect plan goes down the toilet :rolleyes:
But no more waiting, I will try for sure http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m100.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/m-pozitive.php?page=1) if we make it this month, our BOYZ will be only days apart http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1268.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/m-pozitive.php?page=2)

[Plum3]

I decided to stop swaying after this month because it has taken me so long to get pregnant again. With all my other pregnancies the longest it took was 3 months. I am 35 so dont want to spend forever swaying if it will stop me in some way from getting pregnant. I am really only doing diet and timing, no supplements.
We are going on a family vacation in july so i am just going to let whatever happen happen.

That makes alot of sense. If you don't get your BFP this round then hopefully the break will be just what you need.

[Plum3]

My af is late, not because I'm pg, but bcos my cycle is a mess :hair: That would delay my O date in girl biorhythm and girl Moon sign http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t2412.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-rtfm.php?page=1) not to mention New Moon. My perfect plan goes down the toilet :rolleyes:
But no more waiting, I will try for sure http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m100.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/m-pozitive.php?page=1) if we make it this month, our BOYZ will be only days apart http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1268.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/m-pozitive.php?page=2)

Good luck Zivic!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

B- I think thats where I am on the gender, don't think I want to know for sure but I would love a great nub shot to obsess over :bigsmile: Sorry your allergies are kicking your ass but fx for a bfp!!

Princess - still feeling positive for you :)

I had some light brown spotting at 6 and 8 weeks for my DD. I am sure everything is fine. :)

Lola - drink it up and have some fun, you deserve it :)

No more brown since this morning, my panicking has ceased for the time being. Thanks ladies for your support and optimism, it really means so much.

I had some brown spotting at 6 and 8 weeks with DD and everything was fine. They did an ultrasound and found a small teensy area where implantation area was- so they assumed it was from that.

[TTC5]

I know ideally we shouldn't drink alcohol pre TTC on the diet and supps but would a few drinks about 4 weeks before attempt really hurt? DH and I are both keen to try sooner but one of the reasons we were going to wait was because we have weddings and hens/bucks nights in Oct/Nov. But we are getting so impatient. Or do you think we should just wait like we originally planned???

I don't think a few small drinks would hurt at all for a special occasion :)

[TTC5]

My af is late, not because I'm pg, but bcos my cycle is a mess :hair: That would delay my O date in girl biorhythm and girl Moon sign http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/rtfm/t2412.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/t-rtfm.php?page=1) not to mention New Moon. My perfect plan goes down the toilet :rolleyes:
But no more waiting, I will try for sure http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m100.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/m-pozitive.php?page=1) if we make it this month, our BOYZ will be only days apart http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1268.gif (http://yoursmiles.org/m-pozitive.php?page=2)

Yep we are in girl zones too, oh well that is one thing I have decided not to worry about!

[jane]

Yep we are in girl zones too, oh well that is one thing I have decided not to worry about!dont know much about these girl and boy zones:think: is it about the moon phases and if so,when is good for a boy?

[Zivic-Bubac]

Full Moon and last quarter are good for the :xy: because of + ions in the air.

[jane]

Full Moon and last quarter are good for the :xy: because of + ions in the air.thanx, it seems theres so many things to bear in mind,its quite overwhelming! i think you said earlier that the older we get,the harder it is to conceive, especially seems to be the case when swaying.im wanting to attempt soon and thought it would be so easy after my 3 dd's but now after reading these great attempts,im feeling doubtful:sad:so frustarting as theres something i seem to be having thats giving me upset stomach, im sure its the change in diet:mad:

[ELP]

Jane, what are you taking? I know when you first introduce wheatgrass that really sends your tummy bubbling for a while lol!

[jane]

Jane, what are you taking? I know when you first introduce wheatgrass that really sends your tummy bubbling for a while lol! i am having barley grass powder in a huge glass of fruit n veg juice, i just think its a combination really, im usually such a small eater and eat plain n boring stuff so because im grazing and having plenty of fibre stuff( v8 etc) i reckon thats what it is! its very uncomfortable though.i know someone else said they had bad tummy till they were 5 wks preg with their 1st boy so im hoping its a good sign:bigsmile: i can take it for the cause!