Due in Mar/April/May 2015

[Babybeaublue]

congrats hairbows!!! :DD: !!

I'm still team green my scan is 11th Dec tho .......

[Sweet mummy]

Congrats HopingforHairbows!!! Enjoy shopping pink my lovely xx

[laVieEnRose]

Congratulations Hoping!! Fab news.

Sunflower, I'm team green till the end !

Thanks kitkat xx

[Sunflower3]

It's nice to have someone else team green lavie!! What's your due date?


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[laVieEnRose]

I'm due 1st march. What about you sunflower?

[Sunflower3]

DD is March 14th!! So exciting!!
This is the first time I've been team green.


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[Babybeaublue]

Sunflower did you sway pink or blue?

[Sunflower3]

I didn't really sway. I started swaying in 2012. In November 2012 I got pregnant with identical twins which I lost in December. I had multiple chemicals and another miscarriage this past February. Then another chemical in May. So I stopped swaying and got pregnant in June. I was saying pink but with all the loses I stopped. Hoping for pink but a boy would be great too! That's why I decided to go team green. After all the losses I didn't want to focus on gender.


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[hotdogz&boyz]

Congrats Hairbows! So delighted for you!

I don't want to jinx it, but it seems there have been a lot of successful sways lately! I hope the trend continues for other ladies as well :)

We are team green here as well. However, I am pretty sure baby is a boy. I will really be shocked if it's not. It's not really based on anything other than my "intuition" (which, I'll admit, has been wrong before) and some dreams I have had about baby (which have never been wrong). I pretty much refer to the baby as a boy until proven otherwise ;) But, in actuality, we are on team green and have no idea what baby actually is.

[PrimalMamma]

Hotdogz I was thinking the same - I feel like all the pink news is lowering my chances statistically (dumb I know).

Sunflower I'm sorry for your losses & what a beautiful reason to be Team Green. So special. I am trying hard to remember my 5 years of TTC DS1. I would have been so happy to know I would have children at all & not cared if they were boys, girls or Martians!

Here in Australia we have woken to the terrible news of a newborn baby being found dumped in a storm water drain. He was alive and found by a cyclist. He was there for 5 days. Poor little man. It also made the issue of gender seem so unimportant to me. Probably sounds insane but I just wanted to go find the little darling & offer him a boob! (I'm still breastfeeding DS2). Made me cry.

[HopingForHairbows]

Thank you for all the congratulations ladies! I did quite a bit of shopping over the weekend, but spent a lot of time getting my house ready because we are having a large gathering for Thanksgiving, so I need to make sure everything is clean and ready to go.

You are so strong Team Greeners! For several weeks I considered being team green as well. I can't believe that March is starting to creep up on us! Once the holidays pass it is going to be right around the corner!

Primal- That is so terrible and upsetting. Thank goodness he survived. I cannot handle hearing stories like that. In the US we have "Safe Havens", which essentially means that parents that are feeling unfit to care for their child can drop them off at any of these places (police station, fire station, hospital, church) with no questions asked and without any prosecution. Meanwhile, terrible things continue to happen in spite of this. I would be the same as you, wanting to find the baby and offer him my boob as well. poor thing.

[Babybeaublue]

Sunflower I am so sorry for all your losses, you are a very strong lady to try and try again. I had a mc in June this year and I am so scared now. I am Def staying team green.
I feel like I'm on my own here as a blue swayer!!!
Primal I saw on the news about that baby, it makes me mad that so many women can't have one of their own, and then you get people like that doing horrible things to them. I would happily take him :hug2:

[HopingForHairbows]

How's everybody doing? I have been dealing with bad headaches all week. I am overwhelmed with papers and finals at school, work, getting ready for Thanksgiving and all that is going on. Trying to take it easy when I can. Luckily I am going on vacation in just two weeks. I certainly need it!

[Sweet mummy]

Hi ladies, just wanted to say I've posted my scan picture in the Ultrasound forum although it hasn't got a nub (I don't think) but just wanted to share. I think I saw a flat nub while she was doing her measurements but I'm no expert so waiting to get another scan done on holiday this Christmas.

It did raise my hopes but then I told a friend today who asked "will you keep it if it is a boy?" I immediately thought this poor baby didn't choose its gender and I will love he/she no matter what! So I am thinking DS3 is in my tum else will be a lovely surprise to hear girl!

[Sweet mummy]

Hairbows I get bad headaches everyday (so far today I've been spared but haven't had a proper chance to sit down til now so it may come on suddenly)

Would love to see some of your recent pink purchases :)

[Babybeaublue]

Will you keep it?!!!??!!! Oh I would've slapped her. How extremely insensitive. I'm heading over to look at your pic now lol!!

[PrimalMamma]

Sweet Mummy I am so sorry your friend reacted that way. That's the hard thing about revealing gender desire to anyone who doesn't have it they just don't get it. I remember a girl at work a few years ago was pregnant with identical twins & knew it was her first & last pregnancy (it was IVF & really hard) & mentioned she wanted girls. Well, the whole office demonised her completely, called her a heartless bitch & all sorts. She went on to have 2 lovely little boys (everyone said it was karma & "serves her right") who she adores but that was 4 years ago & she has now left & people STILL talk about how horrible she was. I find it easier to give everyone outside this forum (other than my husband) the socially acceptable answer - that I am happy with either sex as long as the baby is healthy. I'm so sorry your friend was so insensitive.

Also - I saw your pics & couldn't see any gender clues at all I'm afraid. Baby is very cute though!!

[Sweet mummy]

Awww thanks girls for the lovely responses! Really cheered me up. The funny thing about this friend is she wants three boys so when I told her the news she said "if it is a boy you're having my dream family" BUT she has a daughter and already said to me she doesn't want another girl. So I think that she thinks I "GET IT" sigh! Think she envies each and every one of us boy moms!

Hate that we have to hide our true feelings but I'm so glad I've got you all to share my feelings with.

Primal how are you feeling these days? Finding things to occupy your time?

Babybeau, shame I told her over the phone lol Take all my blue dust pleaseeeeee!

[kitkat18]

OMG sweet mummy I can't believe she said that!! I think people just say things without thinking but really really really stupid thing to say!
I got a very girly vibe from my 13 week scan and luckily I was right, crossing everything for you I will go look at your pics now!

Anyone else getting back pain and sore feet? Can't believe this is happening already! Its my first summer pregnancy !

Hotdogz when is your scan? Thinking of you! Praying your little baby is happy and healthy!

How is everyone? X

[kitkat18]

Okay I guessed girl for you honey just a lean, but the skull is very girly in the first PIC .... Super cute!!! Are you finding out? Xxxx

[Sweet mummy]

Yea we are definitely finding out! Although I feel this sort of "calm" now! Did any of you ladies find that? Like very "it is what it is".

[SamS_TTCPink]

Hey all

Its been ages since I've been on here but today we got some terrible news and I thought id update you all…. (I also posted in the pregnancy loss group so sorry for the double up to those who do read those posts too).

Things have been going really well wit the pregnancy. I had my 20 week scan and things were great and it was confirmed (after our previous non diagnostic gender scan) that we were indeed having our much desired/dreamed for daughter that we swayed for and a bonus little man. They were both happy and healthy and doing well.

But today that changed. We went in for a scan today and were told that our little girl has died. I am heartbroken and lost for words. Ive had no pain, no bleeding, no nothing…..just was a little concerned about lack of movement from them both, but was not expecting this.

After swaying, an early m/c, swaying again, finding out we were having twins and that one was a girl to now this…. its just all been such an ordeal and now I have to go through the rest of the pregnancy not knowing what the impact on the surviving twin will be, having to deliver both of them, then we have to go through everything afterwards.

This is all just not fair! Its like some cruel cruel joke.

Im just so devastated.

Sam

[kitkat18]

Sam honey words cannot describe how heartbroken I am for you I think all of us are going to shed a tear for you tonight, life really is unfair to take this precious life from you, I'm sending you a million hugs and want you to know we are all here for you to talk too or rant too XXXX

[Mamato3?]

Oh Sam there are no words to describe my feelings. We were all praying for you and your babies all this time and to have such an update is beyond unfair....I really hope your baby boy is not affected by this and just know that I am praying for you and your baby girl in heaven..

[PrimalMamma]

Oh MumofSix Sam... I am so unbelievably sorry for your loss. There are no words.

[business.woman]

Im so so sorry momofsix :(
I cant imagine what ur going through..
Hugs .. :(

[Babybeaublue]

:sad: Devastated.

[sweetdream]

Mumofsix I'm so sorry!!! I have no words. I wish you all the strength you need to go trough this.
I just don't know what to say.

Big Hugs

[eleena2014]

Mumofsix what an awful thing for u to go through, To find out u finally Got your girl and to suddenly lose her,I can't imagine what u are going through.big hugs, love and strength to get through the rest of the pregnancy xxx

[odd]

Oh my god...mumofsix. I have no words: ((((

Loads of hugs and prayers for u n the family

[HopingForHairbows]

Mumofsix I cannot tell you how sorry I am. I am sending you lots of love and healing. My heart breaks for you

[Sweet mummy]

Mumofsix, I am so sorry to hear that you are going through this and sending lots of hugs and prayers for you and your family xoxo

[motherofboys]

Hope you don't mind me posting again, I still get notifications from my app when people post in here and like to keep up with your journeys from time to time, rooting for you all and I couldn't read and run.
Mumofsix I am so so sorry to hear your sad news. I'm thinking of you all at this extremely difficult time. Sending you all my love and best wishes.


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[Sweet mummy]

Ladies, need some advice - Midwife just called to let me know I am at risk for Downs Syndrome (Their cut off is 1 in 150 and my test came back as 1 in 130) so they want to have me in on Monday for a consultation about CVS and possibly do the procedure right then and there. I am so shocked and really scared as to what it all entails as I was low risk with my boys.

Does anyone have any experience with this? I am so worried about miscarriage too!

[nuthinbutpink]

Just saw this through new posts- just to put this into perspective, you have a less than 1% chance of your child having DS. At 1.130, that is a .76% chance so a 99.24% chance all is well!

You can ask for a 4D scan and see if there are any other soft markers like a heart defect. If there are no soft markers seen, then you can decide to have a CVS or not. There are so many things that can affect the "test"- remember it is not diagnostic and simply an odds generator and most are false positives(it's not actually a positive though!).

[Mrs_Incredible]

Sam, absolutely devastating news. I'm so sorry. There are no words. I really hope you have support. Heartbroken for you honey. Hugs xxx


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[kitkat18]

Sweet mummy you poor thing how scary stephk just had the same thing I think she was 1 in 90 she chose to do a medical scan and her baby is 100% healthy. I too would advise this option before rushing into CVS so many things can affect the downs test your age, if the sonographer did not do the measurements properly etc etc. X

[Mrs_Incredible]

Sweet mummy My sister had her son in jan. She had a 1:17 risk from the nuchal tests. She was told she would never have children so didn't do the cvs as he was her miracle. He was perfect at birth. I fell pg just after he was born. After all the worry during her pg, and with the ds risk clouding her pg, I opted to pay £600 for the harmony to get peace of mind. It was only the day or 2 before the section that I started to think about it. Good luck xx


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[PrimalMamma]

Sweet Mummy what a shock. I would be taking up the other girl's suggestions. My friend has a son with Downs & absolutely nothing came up on the Original test. I have several friends who got high risk results & like you & they all turned out to be nothing at all so I think it has a lot of variables &
Inconsistencies.

[Sweet mummy]

Thanks for your responses and advice girls! DH and I are doing our research and I already know whether baby has it or not we are keeping it, whereas hubby is very reluctant and wants me to do the test no questions asked.

I'm going to the consultation on Monday and see what they say. My gut says nothing is wrong but better to hear them out. I'd much prefer a medical scan than something invasive. This pregnancy has just thrown me for a loop compared to the boys! Will keep you all updated on what we decide...feeling quite numb to it all but hopeful xx

[Boysway]

Omg Sam. I have just seen your news. How incredibly devastating. I can't begin to imagine how you are feeling. If you need to talk just pm me xxx Be kind to yourself.

[Adia]

Oh honey...Sam, I am absolutely crushed for you. That is the greatest heartbreak I can imagine.
I have thought of you often and now I am just devastated for you.
Lots of mommies all over the world are crying for your loss. Big hugs and prayers that time will help you come to terms.

[daisymoo]

So so sorry to read this news Mumofsix I will say a little prayer for your little one x


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[Sunflower3]

So sorry again for your loss Sam! We are all here for you for support or whatever you need. You are in my prayers.

Sweet mummy - I had similar results with DS3 but that was just results from NT scan and blood work. This was before the harmony test.
My ds3 is completely fine. Try not to worry.
What test did they do to get these results?

[Sweet mummy]

I had the same - NT scan and blood work but today she explained so many factors go into it like weight, age, hormones, etc. all of which they take into consideration (sorry if everyone knows this already but it was news to us) because I asked for them to re-measure the fluid behind babies neck before doing the procedure, thinking it was just this measurement they used.

We ended up getting it done today. Was quite painful and I cried after but DH was set on it and l literally want peace of mind for the rest of this pregnancy.

[Mrs_Incredible]

Sweet mummy i hope you get some rest and good news soon xx

[Sweet mummy]

Thanks Mrs Incredible! Have you had your baby girl yet? Sorry if I missed the big announcement :) xx

[kitkat18]

I'm sure the test results will be fine sweet mummy thinking of you though, it doesn't sound like much fun! I would want peace of mind too Xxxx
Sam , mum of six how are you doing? Thinking about you every day.
How is everyone else? X

[HopingForHairbows]

I'm doing okay. Thinking about all the lovely ladies here. I honestly have stayed away for a bit because I feel guilty posting when so many women are going through a hard time. I am thinking of all you ladies every single day though.

[PrimalMamma]

Same here Hairbows. I don't want to post my own stuff anymore it seems so trivial.

[BlessedMomma]

Hey ladies. I havent been around much lately. My father passed unexpectedly 3 weeks ago and im still trying to wrap my head around it. I feel bad because ive been feeling a bit disconnected 2 the pregnancy since. I hope the rest of u ladies r doing well.

I saw mum that u lost ur baby girl. I am so so sorry and heartbreaking. It seems so unfair.

Sory ladies i dont want to bring the forum down. I just wanted 2 pop in and update.
I hope every1 else is enjoying their pregnancies and its smooth sailing 4 every1 from now on.

Kitkat congrats on the baby girl. I had no doubt about it :)

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

I am SO sorry blessed :( Prayers and hugs your way

[odd]

Oh man :((( I'm so sorry to read that blessed. May he RIP

Please take care everyone. Clearly not a good time right now :(

[kitkat18]

Blessed I'm so sorry, that is hard going. Don't beat yourself up you will connect with her again you just lost someone very very special in your life and you will need time to grieve. Thinking of you and please come back and let us know how you are getting on X

[PrimalMamma]

Blessed I'm so sorry for your loss. So hard to lose someone you care about while growing a new life. Confronting & confusing. Take care.

[Sunflower3]

Sorry to hear about your loss blessed. It's very hard to lose a parent. You are I. My thoughts and prayers.


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[Sunflower3]

Sweet mummy how are you doing? When do you get results from your test? Pray all is well.


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[Sweet mummy]

Blessed I'm so sorry to hear about your dad! Praying for you and your family through this difficult time xx

Sunflower I got my results back this afternoon - baby is normal and healthy :) I feel so blessed but so guilty...wishing all the mamas on here going through hard times lots of hugs and prayers xx

[Mamato3?]

Blessed I'm so sorry to hear about your dad! Praying for you and your family through this difficult time x

Sunflower I got my results back this afternoon - baby is normal and healthy :) I feel so blessed but so guilty...wishing all the mamas on here going through hard times lots of hugs and prayers xx

Congrats on your results sweet mummy!!!!Did you also find gender??

[kitkat18]

Great news sweet mummy xxx

[PrimalMamma]

Great news sweet mummy!!

[essnce629]

Yay Sweet Mummy! Awesome news!

So so sorry for your loss Blessed. Life seems so unfair at times. Take care of yourself. (((HUGS)))

[Mrs_Incredible]

Thanks Mrs Incredible! Have you had your baby girl yet? Sorry if I missed the big announcement :) xx


hi hon, yes Eva arrived safe and well 5 weeks ago today, thanks for asking. She was 6lb 7.5 at 38 weeks. I didn't do an announcement, just updated my due date group (which only has a few ladies!) should do an announcement. After the section it was a lot rougher recovery than the 3 normal deliveries with the boys, but the actual section wasn't as horrific as i imagined. We still have moments every day where we still can't believe we have a baby girl. She is perfect and so like my youngest son as a baby. We are all totally in love with her, my eldest loves to sit and hold her. It still feels like a dream xx

[Mrs_Incredible]

Blessed I'm so sorry to hear about your dad! Praying for you and your family through this difficult time xx

Sunflower I got my results back this afternoon - baby is normal and healthy :) I feel so blessed but so guilty...wishing all the mamas on here going through hard times lots of hugs and prayers xx


fantastic news!! What a relief :)

Blessed, so sorry about your dad, hugs xx

[PrimalMamma]

I'm struggling along & feeling terribly guilty for it with all the baby losses, threat of foetal abnormalities and now the loss of Blessed's Dad. Logically gender is such a minute, inconsequential, selfish thing to worry about. And yet, I'm still nubsessing and looking at my photos over & over. I'm fearing the tech was wrong about the baby's nub. I feel like I keep seeing little things popping out under the nub in other people's nub shots, and that is what that thing is in mine. Someone posted a 13 weeks nub shot this morning in the ultrasound forums & it looks very girlie, and right under the nub is a lump that looks exactly like the bit the sonographer told me was my baby's nub. I haven't shared any of our thoughts about gender with our boys but for some reason both of them are convinced they are having a sister, they keep calling the baby "she" & "her" and are absolutely adamant it's a girl. I feel like it will break everyone's heart if it isn't. I keep staring at the potty shot too, & comparing it to girl & boy potty shots of the same gestation & I can't decide if my baby's protrudes a bit more or a bit less. The thing I'm really hating is that I feel within myself that this baby is a girl. I know that is caused by a combination of hope & of the girl guesses I've received. It is in no way Mother's Intuition but I feel like I'm bonding with a little girl, which I find terrifying because if the baby ISN'T a little girl then I feel like I won't feel bonded to the baby. I can't sleep properly or concentrate at work & I absolutely cannot afford to pay for a scan. I'm so sorry again to everyone who has experienced a loss & I understand if you all hate me for being so selfish.

[kitkat18]

No one thinks you are selfish primal mamma, its what brought us here the desire for one gender over another so I am sure everyone is completely understanding. I'm not sure there is anything I can say to make you feel better. All I can say is how hard those weeks for me leading up to the scan, it was hard to control my crazy!
I too googled and nub obsessed during work hours and had countless dreams about nubs yes weird!!!! I think all you can do is try and distract yourself, picture both outcomes and take a lot of deep breaths. Hoping the next few weeks fly by for you sending virtual hugs XX

[Sweet mummy]

Primal please don't feel selfish about your feelings! I am so glad you are speaking up about how torn your feelings are because society expects us to conform to and just be "happy with what we have" but even I wrestle with the fact daily about this baby's gender and I didn't even get a scan picture with a nub to obsess over. I can just imagine how it must be driving you crazy!

Anytime I feel worried or start stressing I look at my DS2 - he literally melts my heart and I immediately know if this is another boy I will love him just as much! I declared I will never feel gender disappointment again because this little boy will never know his mummy wanted a girl (if God decides this baby is a boy).

Sadly we did not find out gender with the CVS as they charge £190 for that privelege so we will wait patiently for our 20 week scan. I feel so calm now...is that weird? Kind of a "living in ignorance" sort of thing. Possibly because almost NO one knows about this pregnancy? We are telling the in-laws this weekend as we won't see them again until next year because we are going to my parents for Christmas and New Years. We will tell my parents when we see them too. Maybe it is because no one knows and I haven't had to deal with the "Oh it is probably another boy!" comments that it all seems surreal? I'm sure the reality will set in once the bump gets bigger and the comments start flying...then the depression might hit sigh!

[QueenB3blue]

Sweet mummy so glad everything turned out ok!

Blessed:( I am so sorry about your father. I lost my dad 3 years ago to cancer. It was just awful seeing him fade away. I was pg with ds3 which I named after him. Please try your best to take care. Hold tight to your memories of him:)

Primal I feel so bad that you are giving yourself such a hard time. If I had the extra money I would send it right your way to get your early scan!

Just wanted to stop by and check on everyone. Hope you all are doing well:)

[PrimalMamma]

I ended up ringing about a scan yesterday but I was right there is nowhere that does them here without a medical reason & the closest place that does is Brisbane which is 1300km south (16 hours drive). That kind of helps in a funny way as I know there isn't anything I could do even if I did have the money. I'll just have to wait. Scan is Xmas eve.

[PrimalMamma]

This is the photo comparing my baby & the "questionable nub" against the very girlie baby with the lump under the girlie nub that looks like what my sonographer said was the nub. Does that even make sense? Lol. But you see what I mean, those things are identical, whereas the girl baby has a long flat nub on top & mine has that "boy nub" that the sono swore black & blue wasn't the nub at all. The only thing to keep in mind is my baby was 13+6 so if the baby is a girl the nub would have started to retract back more than the other baby which was 13 weeks exactly. And the "boy nub" is sticking straight up at 90 degrees which is not really natural I guess. Still. I am worried.22457

[QueenB3blue]

But your little one isn't as curled;) so maybe that's why the angles look different.

[PrimalMamma]

Maybe QueenB which is what I've been thinking this morning. Oh it's all horrid. I have 18 days to go.... Unless I have a sudden windfall which would mean I could pay for it to be done a week earlier. The free place won't do it til 20 weeks, the paying place will do it at 19 but charge $230 with no rebate. :( and I guess QueenB if that scenario is correct, then maybe that bit is the nub and the part I've circled in THIS photo is the protrusion underneath??? GAH I don't even know.22460

[PrimalMamma]

Sorry not sure why the photo has uploaded twice!!

[Sweet mummy]

hi hon, yes Eva arrived safe and well 5 weeks ago today, thanks for asking. She was 6lb 7.5 at 38 weeks. I didn't do an announcement, just updated my due date group (which only has a few ladies!) should do an announcement. After the section it was a lot rougher recovery than the 3 normal deliveries with the boys, but the actual section wasn't as horrific as i imagined. We still have moments every day where we still can't believe we have a baby girl. She is perfect and so like my youngest son as a baby. We are all totally in love with her, my eldest loves to sit and hold her. It still feels like a dream xx

Congratulations Mrs Incredible!!! You and your family must be over the moon to welcome a sweet baby girl into it safely!! I'm so happy for you all... it may take a couple months (even years!?) to sink in! Enjoy every minute of her precious being and please do make an announcement - we all need to celebrate any baby being born!! She was a tiny one wasn't she? Bless her giving mummy a hard time ;) but worth every minute I can imagine. Really happy for you xxx

[Sweet mummy]

Primal that sticking up bit definitely can't be nub! Must be leg that got cut off in the picture if baby was moving?

[Sweet mummy]

Whoops uploaded my pic to show a sticking up bit too that also looks like leg cut off!

[PrimalMamma]

Congratulations Mrs Incredible! I've been so busy obsessing about my own situation I completely missed yours! I spent a large chunk of yesterday pouring over confirmed girl photos and confirmed boy ones too & came to the only logical conclusion: my baby is a hermaphrodite. Lol. But seriously I found as many boy photos that looked the same as girl ones. One boy one in particular had a "nub" virtually identical to the sticking up thing that the sono said isn't a nub. So I think I just need to accept that the NT scan told me nothing & it is still 50/50. The funny thing is when I think it's a boy I'm nowhere near as distressed as when I start thinking it's a girl & then worry that maybe it isn't... I don't know why the whole thing is upsetting me so much anyway. I didn't really sway because it didn't seem all that important before I conceived. If I had known how desperately I really wanted a girl I would have tried harder.

[hotdogz&boyz]

Hi ladies. I am sorry I've been away for so long. I am so saddened to come back to so many ladies suffering loss and heartache. I can't imagine what you are going through with the loss of your baby girl twin or the loss of your father. So heartbreaking. I will pray for strength and healing for both of you. My thoughts are with your families.

At our house, we have not recieved any "bad" news. In fact, all the definitive news we have gotten has been good (previa is moving up at a very rapid and hopeful rate, the spinal column on baby looks perfect and no spina bifida concerns remain), but we still have some questions concerning baby's heart. According to the tech, baby has not been cooperative at either scan for the proper views she needs on a couple ventricles. She said it was rare to not get a decent view out of two scans, but doesn't necessarily mean baby has an abnormality with the areas. She just can't rule it out either. So, we wait longer. I have another scan booked in about two weeks (it was 4, but I've been gone for a couple of those weeks). Additionally, we are having some concerns about my blood pressure/protein in my urine. I had to do a 24-hour collection and monitor my blood pressure for the same duration. I'll get the results of that on Tuesday (I have an appt with the nkh risk doc at the practice). I've never had a hint of a blood pressure issue in my life (I normally run very low, actually) and I've never had problems in pregnancy with either protein in my urine or blood pressure. The midwife said it's pretty uncommon to not have pre-eclampsia for three pregnancies and then suddenly develop it in a fourth. But I guess "uncommon" is par for the course these days. I must admit, I have some symptoms of having high blood pressure and this pregnancy has taken a lot out of me that I didn't expect. My previous three were much easier.

BUT, the good news is that all traces of any potential gender desire or disappointment are gone. In fact, I'll be thrilled beyond measure to have a little boy. Or a girl. I feel like a lot changed for me during this whole experience and it has left me with a peace about whatever we get. But, I'm aware that my situation is rather different from many on here and I don't pretend to be in the same place, nor do I judge those who are struggling. I know what that's like and just feel lucky to not be there right now.

I hope to be around more. I hope everyone is feeling well as we head toward the halfway point or the third trimester! Soon enough we will have tons of beautiful baby pics filling these pages. :)

[PrimalMamma]

Hotdogz I'm thinking of you, so hard when there is anything odd hanging over a pregnancy but I'm glad that so far all the definites are positive. Pregnancy is such a peaceful place when all is well & if GD is not an issue. I long for my early pregnancy before the NT scan when I assumed my baby is a boy & I was relaxed & happy. I went shopping today, didn't buy anything for the baby but I looked at lots of gender neutral newborn things. They looked so tiny & & sweey & I can't believe my boys ever fitted into size 0000 but of course they both did (DS2 only for a week or so). Every time I settle my mind that the baby is a boy I am fine. It's when I think it MIGHT be a girl that I start to panic. Only because I am terrified of Gender Disappointment. This baby was never conceived with a "job", I had only mild GD prior to the NT scan & it was always about having another child & not "trying for a girl". I have a cousin who is the 3rd of 3 boys & everyone in the family is always reminded that he was "supposed to be a girl." He is 40 years old, with his own child now & his mother is STILL bitter that he was "supposed to be a girl." He has carried being that disappointment his whole life & it's awful. He was an overachiever in his youth & none of it was ever good enough. I'm terrified of being that parent & it's one of the reasons I haven't told any of my family about my GD & insisted that I don't mind what gender the baby is. I don't want my baby ever thinking he was meant to be something other than what he is. Sigh. 17 days til my scan. I can do this.

[kitkat18]

Hotdogz I have been thinking of you! Pleased the last scan went well, sorry that you still have a few unanswered questions, it will be such a relief to have that final scan checking the heart. Keep us posted on the results from Tuesday xx
Hoping those 17days fly by for you primal! It really is a sucky place to be in limbo.
Hope everyone else is well, can't believe some of us are nearing third trimester!! Xxx

[business.woman]

PrimalMamma have u tried the ring test?
I so believe in it , try it just for fun !

And the rest try it and let us know !

[PrimalMamma]

LOL business woman! I've done the ring test so many times & every time I look up the ring test online I find some websites that say circles mean girls & others that say swinging means girls & vice versa for boys. For me the ring starts in a swing but then settles into circles... so backs up my "hermaphrodite" theory haha. The baking soda test said girl, Ramzi was girl (I had a scan at 6 weeks). Craving-wise early on I had "girl" cravings but now I have "boy" cravings. I don't put a lot (any!) faith in old wives tales or symptom-based theories.

[business.woman]

So even the ring test is confusing !
I believe circles for girl and swinging for boys
I did it on my hand and it says girl then boy
I had a girl already and this baby is supposed to be a boy :)
I will wait untill Im 12 weeks to do it on my belly :)

[hotdogz&boyz]

Thanks for the support ladies :) It's really nice to be a place of acceptance. My mom and I have found some great neutral clothes lately, which makes me really excited for him/her to get to wear them. I keep thinking of what it will be like having a newborn and realize that its really happening. Lol. I am 26w today and my others were all born before 38 weeks. So....I have about 12 weeks or so left. Which seems sooooo short!! When I think that it's likely ill have a late-Feb baby...that is like two months away. I guess time is moving right along.

I am a little sad that DH is really sticking with this being the last. And I just don't feel that right now. I can't imagine this being it. But I'll think about that another time. Hopefully i can convince him we make really pretty babies and need more of them ;)

Only another two weeks or so for you Primal. You can totally do it. Honestly, for me, with my babies, that wait to get to the scan is the worst. I can handle the "disappointment" afterward, but I hated waiting for the scan. With both of them I just wanted to start bonding, either way it went (and, of course, you are aware that one of those times was a time I had GD and one I got my DG). This time was nice because that pressure was not there. Although I AM getting outside pressure for this baby. Which is irritating. I can be on cloud nine imagining either and then someone opens their big mouth about it!

Just a random question...are you guys buying anything for baby for Christmas? I got a cute little hooded towel and will wrap it up for him/her. It's a fox and it's orange and so soft. Obviously being the fourth, we don't need much, but I like to buy a few new things.

[Sweet mummy]

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Article in one of the local family magazines from our town! No name supplied but wow! :)

[PrimalMamma]

What a good article Sweet! And yeah I can relate. Every time I was seen out with my sons when DS2 was newborn someone invariably said "He's sweet... But I bet you would have loved a girl!" Astonishing. What is more astonishing is that you know that if I had said "Yes actually I wanted a girl & he was a real disappointment" the same idiot would have been horrified.

[Sweet mummy]

Exactly! Refreshing to read something like this that wasn't put there because of some backlash from somewhere else. Plain and simple the mum was happy with her two boys and somebody though that was humanly impossible! I think this is the root of why some people develop gender disappointment - almost a sense of not wanting to let others down (even complete strangers!) xxx

[PrimalMamma]

So I woke up with spotting this morning. Nothing major but went to the GP & she inmediately referred me for a scan. Everything is fine with baby... And he is a boy! I'm not upset at all, just relieved to finally know & that he is healthy. He is breech so has probably been kicking my cervix which could have caused the bleeding. My poor husband is devistated about the gender, but relieved he is healthy.

[LittleBabyJones]

Congratulations primal!

[Adia]

Congratulations Primal! What a blessing!

[hotdogz&boyz]

Cool article Sweet! I often think of what someone said in here a while back, and I don't even recall who said it, but it was that having a bunch of one gender is like getting Christmas presents wrapped in the same paper. That everything from size to shape to contents is different...they just have that factor in common. And I can totally relate to that because my sons are so very different and I know that even if I had ten more boys, they would all be so unique and special. And THAT is where my excitement for a new baby just focuses on the baby as who they are. Not what's between their legs. I am so much more interested in what's between their ears and what genes they inherited from who.

And Primal, I am so happy for you. I am happy that your son is healthy and that he chose to let you find out earlier than planned. To help you move forward with planning for him and loving him and waiting for him to join your family. I am sorry that your husband is struggling. I hope that time heals him. I am excited to hear what name you pick out for your little one. I am really glad that the question is gone and that you felt nothing but relief. :)

[business.woman]

Primal congrats on your boy , im happy thats hes healthy , :)

[kitkat18]

Primal big congrats honey! It must be such a relief to just know and move on with planning for your little dude. My boys are sooo different, it's so true what you said hotdogz! I am so protective of my cool little guys X

[Junie]

Congratulations Primal!!! I'm so happy everything is OK with your baby and that you will be able to have some peace with it all this Christmas. Congratulations again :)

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[sweetdream]

Primal. He'd already a good son! He knew his mommy needed Some peace and let you know what a beautifull Son and brother he is. So he kicked so hard you would get a scan! What a blessing he is healthy! Congrats.

[Babybeaublue]

Primal I'm glad you now have peace of mind.
I had my 20 week scan today, everything looks great, and I'm still team Green!

[kitkat18]

Baby beau great news! Good for you staying strong on team green Xx

[Babybeaublue]

Thanks, although I did look hard when she was measuring the leg lol!

[Girl Dreaming 55]

Hi all
Sorry I have also been away for a while. I'm sorry to hear all the news and heartache my thoughts are with you all xx I'm well I believe I'm having a girl which I swayed for but have uploaded a pic, see what you all think!? My placenta is low so booked in for another scan at 32 weeks I'm currently 25. Feeling baby move now which is wonderful. Fingers crossed all continues to go ok! 22537 will be good to hear all your thoughts I'll try to keep online a bit more now!

[Sunflower3]

Congrats primal!!! So glad you found out. Boys are lovely gifts from God!!
Well said hotdogz!!!
Babybeaublue I'm 27 weeks and still team green. Sometimes I give it hard not finding out gender and other times I don't care.
Girl dreaming. That looks like a girl. Congrats!!!

[laVieEnRose]

Congratulations Primal!! What a relief your baby is healthy.

Sorry to hear about all the losses/ heartache that some of you are going through.

YeS, we'll said Hotdogz.

I'm just back from the funeral of a dear friend today....it was a very moving and lovely sent off.
Not only did I had to cope (like most people) with the grief, but I also had a full day of comments about the size of my bump ' you must have triplets in there', that it surely is a 4th boy, even had a 'poor you ' comment, blablabla.... Seriously, what's wrong with people?!! So insensitive....what gives them the right to be like that? I don't comment on their ugly face or their fat bum ! Jeez, I got it all...even my husband was getting comments. There was another pg girl - first baby, same due date as me but lovely small bump, she got no way the same attention as me. I feel like going in hidding until the baby is born. And now I'm paranoid about being abnormally huge and am battling with emotions re GD....I'm so drained.

Sorry had to vent...

Yeah to team green! I so hope I have a girl or a little alien though to shut them all up lol

Xxx

[kitkat18]

Congrats girl dreaming, that's a girl honey!! Babybeau any thoughts after sneaking a peek??
La vie I'm so sorry people are being just downright rude to you!!! I got sooooo much when pregnant with my DS2 he was just a big baby but yip twins comments, you must be due any day....I had weeks to go! If it makes you feel better someone said to me the other day I looked like a marshmallow I was wearing a white dress won't be wearing that again!!People say stupid things!!! Try and ignore them I bet you look gorgeous!!! Xxxx

[Babybeaublue]

I'm useless lol on second there was nothing at all then I thought I saw boy bits, then 3 lines then nothing then boy bits again!!!! Honestly, it was so quick I think my mind was playing tricks. The 3 lines looked quite long tho so not sure if it was girl bits or something else. Useless!

[kitkat18]

I don't think I could have guessed at 20 weeks either baby beau it was just soooo fast!! X

[Babybeaublue]

Maybe it was girl bits and cord that I saw?

[PrimalMamma]

That sure looks like a girl, Dreaming! Congratulations! My scan was fast, & when the sono initially did a potty shot it was flat & looked like a girl. Then he checked for bleeding etc & went back to look & said "Oh actually no that's a little boy." DS3 was running amok, I didn't get to look properly & when I went home to look he only took a pic of the flat potty shot. Frustrating. But I'm going to trust his
Judgement, he was sure & his Bachelor of Sonography is significantly more reliable than my "Bachelor of Google Images" lol.

[PrimalMamma]

Ok this has nothing to do with anything we normally discuss but seeing I'm in a group of like-minded women I need some advice regarding DS1. We have had a lot of issues with his school this year. I have considered changing his school several times this year but as he was well settled & happy, and achieving academically I thought I would leave it alone. Then this week several things occurred that made me feel his safety was at stake leaving him in that school- I got a phone call from a mum at school that her son had left school grounds yesterday with 2 other kids & were brought back by some tradesman in a truck & the school hadnt even noticed they had left. This is after a 7 year old got left at the swimming carnival on Wednesday which was all over the local news & 2 incidents I witnessed of grade 6 & 7s assaulting prep students. So right then on the very last day of school I made a snap decision to start ringing around for other schools. I found one I was very happy with & enrolled him immediately, & then cancelled his enrollment at His current school. So now it's Xmas holidays & I have to tell him somehow that next year he won't be going back to his school. He knows some kids in the new school & it's a lovely, tiny school (only 118 students). He will settle in very well but he will hate me at first. I've got no idea how to break it to him & he has never even set foot in the property. What should I do???

[kitkat18]

Primal, sounds to me like you made the right decision. How old is he? I think I would be quite matter of fact about it and say he is moving schools because you and DH think its a better fit for him and you were not happy with some ways his last school handled situations give an example like the bullying. Be calm and rational and say he can still stay friends with other kids at old school, set up play dates over hols etc. Hope that helps a wee bit I think if he is under 7 he is young enough to trust you as the parent and understand the change of plans!! Over hols take him to school ground's of the new school and let him play on the playground etc which might help him on his first day. Good luck xxx

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks Kitkat yeah I was thinking similar things. He's approaching 6. :)

[laVieEnRose]

Primal, I have been exactly in your shoes. We changed school last year. The boys took it fairly well. We explained our decision to them and told them we felt their old school was failing them and as parents we wanted the best for them. DS1 sailed through. DS2 settled well but now and again will try to make me feel guilty by saying he hates the new school. I just repeat to him that this school is best for him and to trust me. I have no regret moving them. Try to get to know a few mums soon and have play dates with his classmates to integrate him quicker within the class. Best of luck xx

[laVieEnRose]

Babybeau, you prob will torture yourself for a few days lol. I thought I saw two balls and a willy but it looked huge so not sure at all. and I have no pictures so still none the wiser. I kept looking at other scan pictures on google for a couple weeks! I have let go now and embracing team green :-))

[Sweet mummy]

Congrats Primal and dreaming!!! Hurray for healthy babies :)

Primal if your instincts told you to change school then it was the best decision for your family. Kids are so resilient and more open to change once we make it all a positive experience and like the other ladies suggest - try and get some playdates in over the holidays. Hope it all goes well xxx

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks LaVie & Sweet Mummy. The new school is really supportive & they're very into building a strong parental community. There is a "get to know you" morning tea for parents on the first day of school which I'm looking forward to, and throughout the year they have other parent social things like trivia nights, and even the P&C starts with a wine & cheese night every month!

[kitkat18]

Sounds fabulous primal xx

[kitkat18]

Hey ladies quick question I have been having lots of braxton hicks contractions in the last few days. I noticed them really early this time round at about 15 weeks, I am definitely doing more this pregnancy and notice them heaps more when I have been standing up on the shop floor (I am a manager of a shop) anyone else had this in pregnancy? I'm only 24 weeks and had them much later with both boys. My mid wife said to rest more which is easier said than done working full time with 2 kids! Xx

[laVieEnRose]

Hi kitkat,
I have always had Braxton hicks early on with all of my pregnancies and this one is no different. I also started to feel them at about 15 weeks. Now that I am 29 weeks they can get quite strong especially if I need a wee!
I was told that your uterus gets more and more sensitive and irritable with each pregnancy. I'm sure being on your feet all day doesn't help but it isn't easy to rest when working and looking after children. Try not to worry , it's just practice for the big day ;-). Xx

[PrimalMamma]

Kitkat I had BH from about 14 weeks with DS2 & I actually had a few hours of them at about 9 weeks with this pregnancy. When I rang my midwife she said they can start as early as 6 weeks but most people don't notice them til later. I am well & truly feeling them now at 19 weeks. I think it's quite normal & unless they are painful I wouldn't be worried at all.

[Adia]

I started having BH at 6 weeks with DD2 and this pregnancy. Not with DD1 or DD3...so completely normal, just really annoying!!!

[Sweet mummy]

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Ladies, meet my DS3! :fami03: I had my cry and just getting my head around another little man but excited to welcome him to the world when the time comes. His brothers are so excited to meet him xxx

[Sunflower3]

Congrats sweet mummy!!!


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[BlessedMomma]

Congrats on ur baby boy sweet mummy, imsure the second u see him u will b head over heels in love.

Kitkat bh are totally normal esp being as bizi as u r. I hope they arent bothering u too much.

Anyone else have extremely visible veins on their breasts? I feel like i have a road map of veins across my chest and my breasts are freakishly engorged. If im like this at 26 weeks already im scared 2 c them postpartum. Idont remember if this was the case with my ds' s

[kitkat18]

Thanks ladies!! Nice to be reassured :) big congrats sweet mummy on your little man, its a lot to get your head around but I'm sure you will adore him!! We are here if you need to vent or talk.
Blessed been thinking of you , how are you doing? I don't have veins across my boobs , one horrible pregnancy side effect I have missed! Pretty sure they will go away after pregnancy must be all that blood pumping round ( my hands and feet are quite veiny) .
Only three days of work left thank god!! I'm ready to sleep, eat and spend time with my boys :) xx

[PrimalMamma]

Welcome to the All Boys Club sweet mummy xx

[Sweet mummy]

Hi girls, I've had to step back and do some soul searching to embrace this new little man coming into our lives. Still working my way round the idea of three boys as we only wanted two kids so to even think of a fourth will be lots of sacrifice financially, so less family trips and will definitely need a bigger house. Sigh! Thanks for being there for me xxx

[hotdogz&boyz]

Hi ladies. Congrats on your little boy sweet mommy. Take all the time you need, those first weeks are lots of adjusting, so I'm sure you'll feel more settled in a bit. I'm around and reading, but my stupid iPad (primary mode of being on here) is really wonky lately, hubby needs to work on it. So I've been quiet. Nothing new here. Baby is getting pretty active. Belly is growing. Christmas prep is wearing me down quick. Just the norm ;)

[kitkat18]

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23 weeks! belly has really grown since then...
Merry Xmas everyone hope you all have a fabulous break enjoying time with family and friends XXX

[PrimalMamma]

Merry Christmas Kitkat! You are teeny tiny for 23 weeks! Here's me at 19 weeks 2 days! HUGE!
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[Sweet mummy]

OMG you mamas are gorgeous with your bumps...wouldn't dear post one of mine just yet...I feel so bleh still even in the 2nd trimester xx

Merry Christmas girls!!! Can't believe another year has passed by so quickly and we're all anticipating new arrivals in 2015!!!

[LittleBabyJones]

Dont worry sweet mummy im 21 weeks and my tummy looks ridiculous.. my pre pregnancy weight was 120 and today I weighed in at 159, I definitely have to stop eating so much

[kitkat18]

Primal cutest PIC ever!!!!!! Poor you sweet mummy hope you get some rest over the holidays, little baby Jones I feel like I have stacked on the weight too, I think its cause I lost so much from LE all the Xmas treats and temptations aren't helping. Have a very merry Xmas everyone XXX

[HopingForHairbows]

Hi ladies! We just got back from vacation at walt disney world. Had a great time but my whole body hurt and I'm still dealing with neck issues from the long ride (19 hours in the car! ) I added a pic of me from down there. I was 19.5 weeks. I'm 20w2d now and not looking much different. I am ready for a big round tummy!

I had my 20 week scan on Monday. Baby is looking good. Perfectly healthy! However she's footling breech which explains why I don't feel very much in the way of movement (along with my anterior placenta) My OB asked me to drink lots of water to get her to move because she claims that otherwise I will be very uncomfortable in the coming weeks.

Glad to see everybody seems to be doing well. I hope everybody enjoys the upcoming holidays!

[kitkat18]

Cute bump hoping for hairbows!!! Mine totally popped at 23 weeks and now there is no stopping it at 25 weeks!! But my babies were both very big so no doubt she will be as well.... Disneyland sounds fun bet your boys had a ball!! X

[BlessedMomma]

Merry christmas 2 all u lovely ladies! U all have the cutest bumps

[BlessedMomma]

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[BlessedMomma]

Taken today. 27 weeks tomorrow

[kitkat18]

Cuttteee!! Blessed momma can't believe you are in the third trimester xx

[PrimalMamma]

I'm suddenly terrified of having 3 kids. OMG I woke up panicking in the middle of the night after a few bad bad days with my boys having tantrums & whinging & being generally painful & now I'm hit with the reality of "Holy shit I'm having another one!" I'm not the greatest house keeper especially with having to work & it all suddenly freaked me out. Still, not much I can do now & I know 3 kids isn't exactly a football team or even considered a large family but still... Maybe I overestimated myself. ��

[sweetdream]

I think it's normall. And you'll be fine.
Your eldest is almost 6. It will be easier very fast now.
Your boys will do more and more themself. They will go to school. And you have time with your baby.
You need to let go of wanting to do everything perfect though.
Sometimes when I get nuts I put them in their room (shared room/ sometimes i split them) and go in to my own prettending I don't hear them.
Or i give them their tablet (wich they saved for from their own money) and let them watch cartoons. Heavenly peace.

Just go with the flow!!!

[laVieEnRose]

Hey gorgeous mamas, merry Christmas to you all! I hope you are having a wonderful day surrounded by family, love and joy.
Great pics girls. Looking blooming.
I def have the biggest bump of all and not feeling very glam
Today to post a pic. Maybe tomorrow ;-).
Xxxx

[kitkat18]

Primal mamma I'm in denial!!! I confess I am going into having number three forgetting everything and blissfully unaware of how hard its going to be!!! My youngest just turned five so the whole baby thing feels like a lifetime ago. Hopefully we can all support each other through the rough first six weeks I mean year!!
La vie post when you are ready, love to see your bump bet its gorgeous how many weeks are you now?
I ate waaayy too much on xmas day but had a ball took the boys to see Paddington bear which was such a sweet movie I think I enjoyed it more than they did. Xx

[Sunflower3]

Here's my 27 week bump. I'm now 29 weeks and feel huge.
You ladies all look great!!!
Merry Christmas to all!!!22730

[BlessedMomma]

Beautiful bump sunflower.

IM trying not 2 think about how life will be with 3. Im sure its hard in the beginning but well all adjust the way we did before. Im actually very excited 2 meet my little girl, trying not to think of the sleepless nights ahead haha

[kitkat18]

Another gorgeous bump! 29 weeks sunflower not that long till you meet your team green baby !! Xx

[Sunflower3]

Blessedmomma I found three easier than 2. I'm a bit worried about 4!!! I'm sure you will be fine. It will be exciting I'm sure you will be ok with the sleepless nights but I love my sleep so I understand.

[hotdogz&boyz]

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^^28.5 weeks :) Obviously taken yesterday by the tree. Hope everyone had a great holiday!

As for 3 kids...I swear it was my easiest transition yet. Part of it depends on personality. But a huge part of it is that your are a professional mom now. Lol. You realize how quickly the stages go and how you are capable of handling multiple needs at the same time. You are better at multitasking and the kids are better at having others siblings around and generally arent as needy after the baby comes (since they have another sibling who demands attention already). I literally never felt an ounce of overwhelmed with three versus two. The moments where i was overwhelmed felt exactly the same as when I was overwhelmed with two kids. Not really any change. So when you are having those "omg, how can handle one more kid demanding something right now" moments, realize it will feel the same, not multiplied. I feel that once you can manage the needs of two, three just comes more naturally. I am hoping, hoping that four proves to be the same. I am not too worried, I do feel like I hit my stride in parenting with #3. And from other moms of 4+, they all say its no big deal after three. So...we shall see.

Everyone's bellies are beautiful :) I love all bumps!

[kitkat18]

Gorgeous Hotdogz! Just a quick note to say Happy New Year!! Looking forward to sharing the final trimester with you ladies and to start seeing some babies being born in the new year!! Xx

[Boysway]

Sneaking in from June/July/August. Happy new year ladies. This is the year our babies are born :)

[kitkat18]

Hi boysway! Bigwave! When is your nt scan? How are you feeling? x

[hotdogz&boyz]

Happy 2015 everyone :) It's been quiet in here, hopefully everyone is doing well!

[LittleBabyJones]

Happy New Year's ladies :) 4 more months!!! Have you picked any names yet? We picked ours ♡

[Boysway]

Hi Kitkat :) My nt scan is in exactly two weeks :D I can't wait. I feel good as long as I eat every two hours. I'm hoping the ms eases off soon. 11 weeks and 1 day today :)

[Aoii1711]

Hi ladies! I haven't been on in a long time. I'm almost 31 weeks now!! I can't believe I only have 9 more weeks to go!! We just went and did the 3d ultrasound last week. It was so great to be able to see my sweet baby girl!! 💗🎀 I still can't believe my family will be complete! Here she is!! I'm in love!! 😍22830

[Sunflower3]

Gorgeous Aoii!! I love her lips. What a great picture!!!



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[kitkat18]

She is gorgeous!! 9 weeks to go crazy!!!
I am 26 weeks and can't believe I will be in the third trimester next week!
Boysway good luck with your nt scan hope you get a good nub shot and its screams boy! Hope you feel better soon its soooo draining! Xx

[PrimalMamma]

Aoii what an amazing picture! Has anyone thought about names? We can't think of any we love. We've got a few "Meh it's ok I guess" names but nothing "Wow that's IT!!" like the other two boys. And everyone EVERYWHERE is having girls, not just here but all my friends too are boy mums having girls. I just need to stay away for a while, which makes me feel selfish & horrid but it is what it is.

[Junie]

Hello ladies. I hope you don't mind that I sometimes secretly stalk your thread. It is just so exciting to watch all of your journeys :).
Primal: I was first able to get really excited about a possible boy once we had a boy name. I spent lots of time going through old lists and using sites like nymbler and chatting with my husband and now that we have a name that I love just as much as our previous boys I am super super excited about the possibility of a boy. Good luck finding a boy's name that you love!

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[kitkat18]

Hello lovelies, we are calling this little lady Hazel, its nice but weird to have the name picked out already both boys we made the final decision at birth. Awwwh primal that would be rough I think keeping a little distance for your own sanity is not a bad thing! Primal have you tried nameberry.com? Might give you some inspiration. Junie you are welcome anytime I often post in the due date group ahead of us and behind us ( you guys) its such a hard place where you are all at feeling sick and worried about gender we can all sympathise! Not long now till you will all have turned the corner sickness wise XX

[LittleBabyJones]

im sorry Primal I understand, I wanted a boy so bad and everyone of my friends are having boys and its hard to hear about. GL on the name we picked Gemma Adaleigh.

[Aoii1711]

Primal that is tough, but once you find the perfect name and he arrives I'm sure those feelings will not be there. The bond between brothers is awesome! As for names for mine I have always wanted Hailey if I ever had a girl. So there was really no thinking of names we were set. I did have a hard time picking a name with ds2 but we did and it fits him so well! Good luck!

[kitkat18]

Gorgeous names!! Primal your boys names are super original and cool I'm sure you will find something that sits perfectly with theirs X

[laVieEnRose]

Happy new year to you all!
Aoii: gorgeous little baby you have in your tunmy!

I'm 32 weeks - almost counting down already! Panic / nesting mode is taking over now and again lol
My blood test showed low blood count so have had iron tablets prescribed but really makes me feel worse so I have stopped takin them. Eating spinach instead lol

Kitkat: love the name Hazel.

We have Lilou for a girl but no name yet for a boy. We have already emilio, rocco and enzo so it's got to end in a 'o' - bette be a little princess in there!

[PrimalMamma]

Kitkat I LOVE Hazel, that was a name we discussed for a girl. Lilou is gorgeous to LaVie, reminds me of the movie The Fifth Element.

So we’ve come up with a name now but don’t know if we’ll be brave enough to use it. Fergus. It’s such a strong name, with “old man” qualities that I find charming. There are quite a few other reasons we like it: Darcy & Eamon are both Irish names & so we wanted another Irish name (even though we’re not Irish!). We were also looking for a name that didn’t sound like the other boys at all. For example we didn’t want a name that ended in a “y” sound (like Cory or Riley) because of Darcy, & we didn’t want another name ending in a “nn” sound (like Aiden or Dylan) because of Eamon. I also like the quirkiness that if we use Fergus, the boys names will start with D, E, and F so they’re alphabetical.

The third reason is that after using Darcy, who was named after Mr Darcy from P&P, I had my heart set on using names from Literature. Eamon isn’t from literature but I just ADORED it so much I HAD to use it. But there is a beautiful poem called “Who Goes With Fergus?” by Yeats. My husband & I studied it (along with P&P) in English Lit at Uni back in 1998 when he was 17 and I was 18.

Not only that, Fergus was an Irish Prince (and later King) who travelled WITH HIS TWO BROTHERS (see the significance??) across the sea to Scotland & founded the kingdom of Argyll.

Our “backup” name is Emmett which is nice enough & probably a much more benign & socially acceptable moniker to impose on a child. But I don’t love Emmett whereas Fergus I adore. And I love the idea of shortening it to Gus, that is way cool. I always admire (& am a tad jealous!) of my friends who are brave enough to use names like Oscar, Bruno, Otis & Huxley. For the last child I’d like to go for it & be brave too! But I know a lot of people will hate it, including our families.

What do you think??

[bluebonnet22]

Just popping in to say I love the name Fergus and Gus as a nn is adorable!!!

[kitkat18]

Lilou is soooo cute for a girl la vie!! LOVE Fergus and Gus for short primal, we have had some pretty Luke warm reactions to Hazel so don't worry too much about what your family thinks as long as you and hubby love it that is all that matters!
27 weeks Friday and feeling like a whale! It doesnt help I am starting to get all of the wow you look REALLY pregnant comments and why are you bigger than my friend who is 2 weeks ahead of me!!! I know I should not take it personally but I do :( anyone else getting these comments? Xx

[Junie]

Kitkat I LOVE Hazel, that was a name we discussed for a girl. Lilou is gorgeous to LaVie, reminds me of the movie The Fifth Element.

So we’ve come up with a name now but don’t know if we’ll be brave enough to use it. Fergus. It’s such a strong name, with “old man” qualities that I find charming. There are quite a few other reasons we like it: Darcy & Eamon are both Irish names & so we wanted another Irish name (even though we’re not Irish!). We were also looking for a name that didn’t sound like the other boys at all. For example we didn’t want a name that ended in a “y” sound (like Cory or Riley) because of Darcy, & we didn’t want another name ending in a “nn” sound (like Aiden or Dylan) because of Eamon. I also like the quirkiness that if we use Fergus, the boys names will start with D, E, and F so they’re alphabetical.

The third reason is that after using Darcy, who was named after Mr Darcy from P&P, I had my heart set on using names from Literature. Eamon isn’t from literature but I just ADORED it so much I HAD to use it. But there is a beautiful poem called “Who Goes With Fergus?” by Yeats. My husband & I studied it (along with P&P) in English Lit at Uni back in 1998 when he was 17 and I was 18.

Not only that, Fergus was an Irish Prince (and later King) who travelled WITH HIS TWO BROTHERS (see the significance??) across the sea to Scotland & founded the kingdom of Argyll.

What do you think??

I LOVE it!!! I don't think you should care about what others will think- unless the name is something you made up, people can't pronounce it, etc. Fergus is a beautiful strong name, and one which I think would be readily accepted in most parts of the world.

My husband is German and we live in Germany although I am from the Midwest. Our two sons are called Theodor and Ferdinand (Theo and Ferdi for short) and I know that especially Ferdinand took awhile for some of our family to get used to in the States (and here as well as they are both old fashioned names here which are coming back into style). But now everyone LOVES it and it fits perfectly to him. We recently decided that if we have another boy his name will be Casper. My mom was definitely silent for a minute after we told her, but she will love it if we end up using it and I know it will fit to our son if we have one. Now all three will have names which are given in both German and English but were popular in the States for the last time in the 1920s. I love them and even now still think how happy I am with the names we chose. I'm sure you'll feel the same if you go with Fergus.

I feel like you having strong feelings about the name Fergus means absolutely that you should go for it. I also love the nn Gus :)

[crazycatcouple]

Just popping over to say I too LOVE the name Fergus! There's a Fergus in one of the book series I read and we considered it for this little guy :-) And I too agree that even if you get luke warm or even negative reactions at first, all that will fade away once he's born and grows into his name, which he inevitably will. All the people that were on the fence about our daughter's name couldn't imagine her with anything else now of course. I say go for it!

[hotdogz&boyz]

Please have a Fergus Primal!! I would love, love, love to have a Gus. I have loved that name for so long but it sounds horrible with our last name. Which, unfortunately, a lot of short names don't suit our last name. So it really limits some of the choices we both like. But I agree on the "other people's opinion" aspect. My boys are named Irish names. One of which has become pretty popular in the States now and is nothing close to uncommon anymore. In fact, I fear it will eventually become "boring" to people due to overuse. But, I can't help that, since I named him when I loved it and we intended it to be more uncommon than it turned out to be. The other has a much more "classic" Irish name and we get some interesting opinions on it, even now that he is here and suits his name so well. I think it's because it has a different sound to it and people often need me to repeat it for them. I can't count how many people have said "Where did you come up with that one?" Lol. (And I usually answer snarky because it's seriously a very common name in Ireland). And then our daughter has a completely unrelated name to the boys. Not Irish, it's English. And extremely not girly. I guess since we had a girl after two boys, folks thought we would go all frilly and prissy and all that jazz. But we love it and it suits her so well I can't imagine her being anything else.

But now we are struggling to find a good fit for a name for this bub. We have a boy choice, which is an English name as well, although a surname instead of a common first name. I wanted something to tie in our daughters name. It is also much less common than our first child's name and much more common than our second sons name. I feel it's in the middle between our extremes. But we are struggling for a girl name. We have thrown a lot of them around, but nothing really seems to fit perfectly. We really liked one that is rather girly, but I think it sounds funny with our other kids names. We have about three top choices right now. But I don't know if we will even narrow it down before baby comes along.

Glad to hear that everyone is doing pretty well in the new year. I'm 30.5 weeks now and we are starting to talk about setting some stuff up for baby. Nothing major, but up until now we havent done a whole lot so far. We have another sonogram in about a week and a half and I hope they give me a cute profile pic of baby. And verify that all looks healthy and the placenta is moving properly. I'm getting over my fears now that we are further along and I'm starting to get nothing but excited to meet our new addition. We even picked out going home outfits for each sex.

[sweetdream]

I do like fergus too.
My eldest 2 also have irish names. Pretty uncommen here when we chose them. But they are getting popular. Our third man is uncommen but more like scandenavian. Our girl will get An english/arabic name.
We had another irish name if it was a boy. Wich I love!

[Sunflower3]

I'm 31 weeks tomorrow and have been sick this entire pregnancy. Nauseous every day even when I take my anti-nausea pills. The last 3 days I've had a migraine.
I haven't bought much for this baby. I'm team green and have three boys so nothing girly in the house and feel odd to buy anything pink just in case. Sometimes I'm so sure it's another buy but then I'm not sure. I had mixed guesses on my 12 week scan so who knows.
Unfortunately being sick has made me not so excited to get anything new for the baby. I do have clothes from the boys but donated much of my other stuff (ie swing, bassinet, etc.) when we moved last year. Would love to hear everyone's names as I'm a bit stuck on another boys name.



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[sweetdream]

Sunflower you can PM for names if you like!

[odd]

Hi everyone. Haven't checked in a long time so just popping in to say hello. It turns out I have total placenta privia so I will be having a c-section on feb 17th. Which puts me at 37 weeks 4 days or something. I would've loved to have natural birth but all I care about is a healthy baby at this point

Ok.. Will go back and catch up on this thread now ��

[kitkat18]

Sunflower I'm so sorry you have had such a tiring nauseating pregnancy! Let's hope this little lady/guy treats you better in your last few weeks. Odd wow you are officially on countdown! Hooray! Sorry you are not getting your natural birth but it will be wonderful to hold your little lady in your arms very soon - you will be our first birth and birth story! Xx

[stephk]

hi ladies just popping in to say happy new year and hope everyone is well. Its been a few months since I have been able to come here and Im still crazy at work so not sure when I will be back again but I just wanted to say hi!! I don't think I can quite catch up on everything but I saw some really lovely names that you guys are considering, and I am being useless with that so its good to get inspiration/steal haha!!

Im 30 weeks now, look and feel like a hippo lol and only 9 more weeks of work left (including this week). I know that work is easier but its really hard at the moment so I am looking forward to not working on the same old crap all year!!! I know when I am getting no sleep and having baby challenges I will want to be at work lol

Hope everyone is well and feeling as good as they can.

Boysway - good luck for your NT scan coming up, hope theres a clear boy nub there :)

Odd - good luck for your c section next month, hope it goes well.

Will try to lurk/check in a bit more regularly....

[kitkat18]

Lovely to have you pop in steph!
I am also struggling with work! Its very hot here in N.Z very humid and I'm really tired, feeling massive and having intense braxton hicks all day long. I'm only 28weeks and I was planning on working up until 38weeks but thinking I might finish at 37. What did you all find worked best for you in other pregnancies? Or what are you ladies planning on doing this pregnancy if you work full time?
Boys way sending you all my BOY vibes for Thursday Xx

[Boysway]

Sooo excited. Nt scan is tomorrow :D

[Boysway]

Kitkat, I've always finished up around 7 months. I think it depends on how you're feeling and what job you do. Last time I was working in a nursing home.

[kitkat18]

Thanks boysway! I am hoping for a giant boy nub for you, it will be wonderful to see baby Xx

[PrimalMamma]

Well I am devo. My cousin had a baby boy this morning... and called him Fergus. She had no idea we were going to use it so I can't even be angry. We were set on it, had even told the boys & were referring to him as Fergus. I just feel like every part of the joy & excitement I am trying to cling to in this pregnancy keeps being taken away. I'm so upset. We didn't like any other names & were both absolutely sold on Fergus. When I found out I broke into a sweat all over my body & couldn't stop shaking. And I'm at work too so I've just gotta keep on keeping on today. I'm just so so upset.

[Boysway]

:( oh primal. That's terrible. I hope you are both able to agree on another name you both love.

[Pebbles&BamBam]

I'm so sorry! Someone stole my favorite boy name so I can relate, DH had to call me ASAP because he knew I would be so upset!

[kitkat18]

Oh honey that totally sucks!!! Are you close cousins? If not I think you could still name your guy that... If you are then back to the drawing board but you will find the perfect cool name I just know you will! Big hugs XX

[PrimalMamma]

First cousins I'm afraid, our mothers are sisters and her mother is my godmother. Back to the drawing board. ������ Oh well. We'll find something.

[Junie]

Primal I would stick with the name. You love it, it is a great name, and unless you live with your cousin it will not be confusing for anyone. Don't let this get you down!! I mean it isn't even a sibling of yours, it is just your cousin. I totally wouldn't care if someone used the same name- I would just think they also loved it as much as I do :)

[Mrs_Incredible]

My husband has an older son with his ex, dh's brother & wife called their son the same name. I don't see why you shouldn't use the name you love!! Speak to your aunt and cousin and politely tell them the situation and that you will be calling your baby the name you love and had used to bond with your baby xx

[Boysway]

I've had my scan now. I won't get nt results till next appointment. I'm not certain confident with the nub shot quality. I will still post in nub theory and skull theory. I have my suspicions of bubs gender already though.

[hotdogz&boyz]

Ugh Primal. Really?? How frustrating. What are the chances they would use that exact name. Geez. I am sure that whatever you end up picking will be perfect for your little guy!

And boysway....id be excited. I think yours is a boy. It's got quite the bobble on top. Congrats.

[kitkat18]

Ohhhh boysway I am off to look now how exciting! X

[Babybeaublue]

Hi everyone! Had problems with the site so haven't been able to post in a while. Been getting a lot of gasps and words of sympathy when people find out I still have 15 weeks to go, everyone assumes I'm a lot further on because of my size.
Primal - my cousin used the name dh liked for dd4 also unknowingly. I didn't say anything and now I prefer the name we choose instead sooooooo much more! In a way I'm glad it happened.

Boysway - had a look at ur pics - I say BOY!! If I'd had those pics I'd be over the moon!!!

Hope everyone is ok. Can't believe how close some of you are to having those babies!!! Exciting!!!

[Georgia_Peach]

Just swinging in to say hi from the due in Feb club. Although if she comes one day late I'll have her in march! Ha
Babybeaublue---I get that all the time! I'm due in 6 weeks.. but I get this : "oh you must be due any day now?".
I tell them I have weeks to go. They tell me I look huge.
Like who says that.!?
I'm emotional and feel fat.. they are lucky I don't smack them. Lol😉

[Babybeaublue]

Ha! I get called huge too, such a compliment!! Also get - you're going to be exhausted! Already am lol

[PrimalMamma]

I'm getting called huge too and I've still got 17 weeks to go!!! I'm not surprised though my bump is always enormous & I have seen full term women smaller than I am now. My cousin contacted me & said she has no problems at all if we use the name. So now we just have to decide if we are ok with that. We are going to keep looking for another name that we absolutely love, but if we don't find one we will use it I think.

We are looking for an Irish name but I would prefer to stay away from the Irish names that use the Gaelic/Welsh spelling which becomes difficult for Australian-English speaking people to pronounce through reading. We like Emmett & I came across Odhran the other day which we both really like but that is one of the names spelt funny - the 'd' is silent so it is pronounced "Orin". I really have an issue with mucking around with spelling, names to me need to be spelt correctly or not used at all. So we need to work out if we're ok with imposing a challenging moniker on our son or not. I have a weird name & so does my mother & we've never struggled with it more than it being irritating on occasions but still, the thought of a kid growing up & being "Odd-ran" forever is not something I'm sure I can intentionally choose for him. I suppose we could spell it "Ohran" which still looks quite nice but it still grates on me that it's essentially a "made up" name.

I had my first (one of 2) appointments with the OBGYN last week & booked my caesarean. Baby will be born 15th May which is the date that popped into my head the moment I got a positive test result. How exciting! By chance I got the same OBGYN who did DS2's emergency caesarean - given we're in the public system & I choose my midwife but am allocated a OBGYN by chance it's a lovely coincidence.

She offered to tie my tubes while she's in there. :think: Don't really know how I feel about that. This is meant to be our last baby, I will be a month off 35 when he's born so while that's not old it's certainly not young, and being a working parent I don't think I can cope with any more kids. That being said, I'm not sure how I feel about giving birth & being rendered infertile in the same procedure.

[hotdogz&boyz]

It's wonderful that you got your cousins blessing to use the name. At least you know you have a name that you love and can be used if you don't find something that fits your desires better. I do love Odhran, although I certainly wouldn't have said it correctly without being told how it's pronounced. I don't think Ohran looks made up at all, but I know what you mean about the spelling. We went back and forth a ton on how to spell my second sons name because there are two main varieties and even though it's only two letters, it felt like a big deal (I ended up "winning" the spelling war). But no one much pronounces it correctly even though it's a super easy name. Maybe Irish is something lots of folks can't say well?

And wow, that would be a hard choice to make. Especially in the midst of a pregnancy. It's one thing to know ahead of time if that is your plan. But I imagine it will be a hard choice to make. My mom had hers done with my youngest brother, but they knew ahead of time that she was going to if she had a c-section (it was a primary for size). We haven't even discussed birth control after baby. I am slightly in denial that this is probably our last.

And May is a gorgeous time for a birthday. My daughter is the 9th and I LOVE it. This ones timing was a tad earlier than our "ideal," it will probably be a late-Feb baby, which is more "winter" than we were intending. But I am sure it will work out fine in the end.

[Babybeaublue]

I'm from n.ireland and I didn't know that name was Orin :oops: I suppose you don't really see names as much as you hear them. I agree with the whole spelling issue too. My dd3 is forever having her name spelt wrong or read out wrong, so annoying.
I think the fact that you can decide not to have any more kids is different from having the choice taking out of your hands indefinitely. Dh says he's getting the snip after this one. Not sure how I feel. I know that it's not practical for us to have another (no more room in the house or car and can't afford bigger) but to know that that's it, no more for sure, don't know if I'm 100% with it or not.

[Babybeaublue]

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[PrimalMamma]

Awww BabyBeau look at your bump! So cute! And yes I agree what you're saying about contraception. We are pretty certain we are done: space-wise, affordability-wise and sanity wise due to work (if I didn't I would want one more I think). But how do I know that I'm not going to want one more in 2 years time? My friend & her husband just had their 5th. They live in a small 3 bedroom house & their happy as anything. That being said, it's not a opportunity I will have again as it costs money usually to have the procedure done & I would be getting it done under Medicate (like the NHS in Britain - our free healthcare system). I don't fancy having surgery again so if I don't get it done I think if we do decide to go down the track of permanent contraception hubby will get the snip. There are less complications associated with tube-tying so is that fair when I have the opportunity?? I don't know. Ugh.

We also found the name Felix which I we both kind of like. There is some debate on naming sites as to it's origins. The popular commercial sites (like Nameberry) say it's Hebrew but some of the smaller Irish/Welsh/Gaelic (like babynamesofireland.com) sites say it's Irish. I know my parents, who are in their late 60s will immediately say "Like Felix the cat!" Which is already irritating me but Felix the cat is kind of a done thing, he hasn't really been around much for years & most kids of today wouldn't know who he was. We also like Mannix (which is definitely Irish) but we were hoping to use my husband's name as a middle name & "Mannix Michael" sounds dreadful!!

Fergus is definitely still a front runner. We may well go to hospital with a list of names to see who he looks like. We've always had one favourite and one "backup" just in case baby didn't look like whatever name we have chosen, but so far we used the favourite both times. This time might be different.

[Babybeaublue]

A friend of mine was married to a Felix, she got the cat thing all the time but Felix the cat is still shown on tv here!! Mannix is cool never heard that before. I definitely think when you see him you'll just know what his name is meant to be.

What's everyone's opinion on using a name chosen when pregnant, but then you mc. Is it ok to use the name for another baby? I keep thinking no. That was meant for that particular baby, not this one. Not sure.

[Sunflower3]

I would use Fergus primal. I really believe it won't matter that you both have boys with the same name. If you love stick with it.
I'm 32 weeks and feeling awful. I can barely walk as my Pubic bone seems to be separating. I forget the name for it but it hurts. 8 weeks to go.
We are still team green. Anyone else team green?


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[Babybeaublue]

Im team green!
Is it spd? I have it too, really painful.also my hips crack and click when I turn over in bed, have done since about 10 weeks. When preg with my fourth my Dr told me my body doesn't want me to get pregnant again. Oh well lol!

[Sunflower3]

It's awful. I feel like I can't walk and look stupid when I do!!!
I'm not sure about a name when you miscarry. I would say if you really love the name use it .
Is this your 5th baby babybeaublue?


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[kitkat18]

Hey Ladies! Home stretch now woohoo! Babybeau your bump is gorgeous, you look amazing for being number 4 or 5!!!
Sunflower you poor thing, that sounds awful!
Primal LOVE Fergus and Felix is a super back up which might trump Fergus on the day. Great you talked it over with your cousin you must feel so much better about the situation!
I personally am not getting my tubes tied or encouraging DH to have a vasectomy it just seems so final and we are pretty careful family planning wise probably we will have a whoopsie now!
The third trimester is sucking big time for me! Just soooo tired, having vertigo when lying down and dizzy spells. Got some iron tablets so hope they help! Hoping the next 11 weeks whizzes by XX

[Babybeaublue]

This is my 5th!! I have a belt I got from physio when preg with my 2nd and I had the pelvic problems, but it's not very practical. You wear it round your hips but then when you need to sit you have to loosen it and it's Velcro, not very discreet lol!

I get bad side effects from any contraception I try so don't know what we'll do.

Kitkat ive been fainty/dizzy for weeks now too. My bp and iron levels are always fine though? It's worse when I have to stand still rather than walk. This is my hardest preg yet. Better not be the hardest labour and birth!

[PrimalMamma]

Oh Sunflower & BabyBeau I had SPD with DS2 & it was terrible. I've been feeling great but the last few days I've started to feel exhausted & just BLAH. I don't know about the name with the MC. Too many variables & it's up to the individual. I would say for me, if it was early & just a thought of "oh if this baby is a boy/girl I'll use this name" then it would be fine to use it for another child. If the miscarriage was further on I'm not so sure, I think I would be inclined to actually name the baby when he was born in which case that would be his name & I couldn't use it for another child. You are so close now KitKat not long until you meet your little Princess!

[stephk]

wow boysway - amazing to have all of those boy guesses!! It does look very similar to my DS ultrasound 13 weeks pics just to add to the boy guess bandwagon :)

Primal - sorry about the name, very sweet of your cousin though and I would use the name if i couldn't find something else, after all that was what you were set on. But you never know you might find something you like even better :)

as for finishing work it does depend on what you do and how you feel, journey time etc. My journey to work is really easy. I will be finishing on 13 March, 10 days before due date. Yes there is a risk my waters could break at work but who cares haha. I don't want to be sat at home bored trying to distract myself for too long before anything happens. 8 more weeks of work and counting yay!!!!

[Babybeaublue]

I usually work up to the week before I'm due but I'm sitting on my butt in an office lol! Still have the travelling to do as the girls go to school close to my work.

So my mum is starting to annoy me with girl name suggestions and telling me to hold on to my dds clothes (not even talking baby clothes here but like age 7 etc!), obviously assuming this will be another girl.

Totally agree with you about using the name if mc was early Primal. Just not 100% set on it.

[laVieEnRose]

Wow I've missed quite a few posts!
Hi girls, checking in to say hello.
I'm 33 weeks and feeling increasingly tired, sore lower back, painful cramps at night ....don't have any clothes tht fit anymore lol.

I too had iron tablets but I have stopped taking them as they made me feel awful with headache, nausea and constipation!

Boys way :I have had all along comments about how for sure I have another boy in there ...a friend even said that 'I must have been really naughty in a previous life to have all boys'! Wtf?! And comments on the size of my bump are priceless too! Mind u I am pretty huge as you can see lol.

We are team green. Still can't quite decide on a boys name to go with our three boys (Emilio,Rocco, Enzo). If its a girl, as said before I think we are pretty set on Lilou (yes Primal from the 5th element !). I heard someone call their daughter Bibi and thought it was cute too.

I am getting very excited now to meet this little bubs soon.

[laVieEnRose]

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[Sunflower3]

You look great lavie!
I'm huge all over. Didn't gain like thus with my boys but I also ate better. All I can stomach is carbs paras breads etc.
I can't come up with a boys name either but hope I won't need to.
So lavie babybeaublue and I are all team green??? Anyone else?


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[kitkat18]

La vie you are all bump honey! I think you look fabulous! Are your babies usually due on time or late? Its countdown mode for you...
Does anyone know who is due first?
Team green is so special! Part of me wishes I had held out...
Iron pills seem to have helped but I already have awful constipation tmi so hopefully they don't make it worse!
Sunflower you have had such a rough pregnancy I would not worry too much about what you are eating, you can worry about it once your precious cargo is here! I gained a lot with DS2 I was just so tired I think I ate a lot to try and give myself energy anyway it all came off pretty fast and I felt like dieting or trying to diet once he was here.
Steph lovely to hear from you! I'm planning on having 2 weeks off before she comes, I ummeed and aaahed over it but I am struggling now so I think 2 weeks off to fix nursery, last minute shopping, washing etc would do me good I am having a planned c section a week early so no going past my due date for me XX

[PrimalMamma]

For those looking for an iron supplement - is Florodix available where you are? Or any naturopathic herbal liquid supplement? This URL is from a UK site - I'm in Australia but I remember some of you being in the UK. This has boosted my iron better than anything else I've ever tried & I'm constantly anaemic & have even been prescribed iron in the past & this works better. It tastes reasonable & won't make you constipated. Health Food Iron Supplements Herbal Teas - Salus (http://www.salusuk.com/products/floradix.html)

[BlessedMomma]

Hey ladies! Hope every1 is well. Cant believe our babies r comming around the corner. Im 30weeks and feeling tired and sore already, cant imagine how i will be at 40!
Lavie ur bump is adorable
Im going to make an effort to come around more.
I missed alot of the conversation but has any1 started or completed their nursery yet?
My mother in law insisted on throwing me a shower next month which im greatful for. She has 3 boys and 2 grandsons so shes elated to finally be getting her girl as well. My family is very generous and im not sure what to get or not get yet until the shower. Is any1 else having one?

[Aoii1711]

Blessed momma. I am having a little shower. I have 2 boys and now am getting my girl too so my mom wanted to give me a shower just mainly for girl clothes and stuff. I can't believe it's only 7 weeks to go!! Can't wait to hear about all these new babies and the ones who were able to hold out and stay team green!!

[laVieEnRose]

Thanks for your lovely comments :-)

Primal, yes we can buy floradix in England too. I'm trying spatone at the moment. It's a liquid form of iron so it seems to agree with me better. I have blood check this week so will b able to know if it has improved my levels.

I spent all last week washing and folding baby clothes- reorganising rooms etc... I'm definitely in the nesting zone. Baby will be sleeping with us for the first 3 months and then he/she will b sharing his/her little brother's room. As we don't know the gender everything is quite neutral.
I'm hoping I will be able to buy pink soon ;-).

I have never have had a baby shower. It wasn't popular in the uk w12 years ago when I had my first. But these days every one seem to have one. I do love the idea of getting all the women in your life to bless you and nurture ou for one afternoon.
6 weeks to go... !

[kitkat18]

Blessed and aoii how fabulous you are getting bonus baby girl showers!
I think odd is having her baby first then is it you la vie?
Thanks primal I likewise will try floradix if these iron pills disagree with me!
I can't WAIT to nest!! Blessed my nursery is peach ( we have painted the walls) hoping to balance it out with grey, navy and green. I still have a lot to buy and sort out but heaps of time!
La vie I have a feeling you will be buying pink!
Xx

[Sunflower3]

I think that's the hardest thing about being team green. Having neutral things. Hope I'll be buying pink too but I had a dream the other night that sow one at my Drs office wrote the gender of the baby on a sheet in my file and I saw it. It said boy and I was so mad that I waited all this time and wanted to stay team green and o saw that!!! Then all I could think is I have to tell DH. I was so mad at my Drs office for writing on my file.
I wonder if my dream is right?!?!??


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[kitkat18]

Sunflower my gender dreams were never right! Hoping its your wee pink surprise in there, how many weeks are you now? X

[hotdogz&boyz]

I'm still around :) This site is so buggy for me lately and my kids have been sick sooooo much that I haven't been on as much. We are still team green too. I feel like I know what baby is, but my track record is not good, so I could be wrong ;) We don't care much, so it's all good either way. I'm still pretty comfortable for 32 weeks. I get a scan for size on Tuesday. Excited to see baby Greenie!

[kitkat18]

Yah hotdogz! Its pretty awesome that there are soo many team greeners! Must be exciting to see baby again X

[Sunflower3]

Yay Hotdogz. I'm also 32 weeks and unfortunately I'm not comfortable at all. But glad to hear you are!!!
I saw my baby on Tuesday and baby was already 4 lbs. so exciting!!! Only 8 weeks to go.
Idk Kitkat. I don't remember having gender dreams with my three boys but then again I knew gender!!!


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[kitkat18]

Sunflower must have been rocking to see little baby again doesn't look like you will have a big baby? Or do they just stack it on in the last weeks.... I had gender dreams with team green and with both DS2 and DD1 before the scan, I think its just such a big deal it can't help but influence you your dreams X

[Babybeaublue]

Heartburn is killing me!!!!
Anyone else get really sore uncomfortable ribs when sitting? I don't know if this is my hardest pregnancy or its just that I'm old now lol

[laVieEnRose]

How lovely sunflower and hotdogz that you were able to see your baby again!
Babybeau: I could have written this post! Heart burns, under my ribs pains and even my sides of my butt hurt when I lie down...this is defo my hardest pg.
I'm hitting 40 next week so it must be old age for me!

[Babybeaublue]

Lol my hips ache too when I'm sleeping! I'm 35 but honestly feel 10 times older, always complaining about my back etc!!

[Sunflower3]

Lavie I am 43 so I really think I am way too old for this. DH wants another baby. I have no desire right now. Sometimes I think he wants 5 since we lost ID twins in December 2012. It was so hard on both of us and still is. Part of the reason why I stayed team green this time bc I don't want to focus on gender just a healthy baby.
I have nausea (still) heartburn back ache and spd. Really? This baby is doing me in but I'm still grateful to be having another baby. I'm trying to enjoy it and not want to rush it but when you feel so awful it's so hard to enjoy!


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[Aoii1711]

This has by far been the worst pregnancy. My boys were easy. I never complained! This one I have been complaining a lot!! My pelvic bones hurt so bad when I walk. I never had that with the other 2! I keep saying it's cause I'm older. I'm 35 and I am done after this one! Hope everyone starts to feel better. We are in the home stretch now!

[kitkat18]

Its been hard for me too! Just off to get my blood pressure checked as I have been seeing floaters and back to being exhausted again!. I'm 36 and my last pregnancy I was 31 so think that makes a difference. I hear you guys I too want to be enjoying it but instead I am counting down the weeks :( ... Oh well time will fly! Xxx

[Babybeaublue]

My MIL said to me today that there will be 5 girls soon??!!?
Then my midwife basically implied that baby is another girl as the heartbeat was "really fast!" (154)
I wish people would leave me be to enjoy not having gd for once.

[laVieEnRose]

Babybeau: people are so insensitive!
I have a pretty shitty day too.
MW said I was going to have a giant baby as she measured me at 37 weeks (I'm 34) - how nice is that?
Then this afternoon I had a gynae appointment with a consultant who examined my pelvic floor as had a 3rd degree tear with my last baby. He's recommending a csection as he thinks this birth would b too much for my muscles and could have really damaging consequences for the future. I'm in shock as I have had 3 wonderful home births and really didn't expect that at all!
The decision is mine but I'm just feeling very confused on what to do...sections have their own risks too - I don't want to compromise my health either...
DH is out so have no one to talk it through... In need of a big hug ...

[Babybeaublue]

Oh no! A c section is not what you want to hear at all do you think it's as drastic as that?
Can't believe I'm almost in tears. I'd stayed so positive and then bang... hugs needed all round I think :bighug:
Baby is also lying transverse. Joy.

[laVieEnRose]

i can't stop crying as I feel the power of giving birth myself is taken from me but of course I can't face a life of incontinence etc...would you take the risk? I am also thinking of microbinomes (any one watched Microbirth?), delayed cord clamping, skin to skin etc...
I will try to get referred for a second opinion and take it fom there...

[Babybeaublue]

Yes definitely speak to someone else. I really wanted a water birth so hoping baby moves into a better position.

[kitkat18]

I'm sooo sorry lovely ladies! La vie that must be really hard to hear after three home births.. I had two emergency c sections basically failure to progress both boys were posterior long labours and BIG babies. I found recovery okay and the whole operation not as nearly as scary as I thought it would be! I will be having a planned c section with this bub and I hear planned is very calm, controlled and you don't have the exhaustion of labour plus recovery of c section. Mrs incredible had natural births for all three and a planned c section for her fourth she might be a good person to talk too?
Baby beau isn't this the second time your mid wife has been terribly insensitive! Seriously DO NOT listen to her what a load of rubbish and such an OWT!!
Hope your little bubba moves into the right position soon still plenty of time :)
Please go and eat some chocolate and do something you really enjoy! Big Hugs XX

[kitkat18]

I should also say a second opinion is a GREAT idea and I would get one in your position X

[Babybeaublue]

Baby beau isn't this the second time your mid wife has been terribly insensitive! Seriously DO NOT listen to her what a load of rubbish and such an OWT!!
Hope your little bubba moves into the right position soon still plenty of time :)
Please go and eat some chocolate and do something you really enjoy! Big Hugs XX

Yes that's her. Full of wisdom (well, full of something anyway)
Dh said to me last night "isn't a healthy baby the most important thing?" I said well can I not have a healthy boy?!?! He really doesn't care if it's a boy or girl.

[Adia]

Yes that's her. Full of wisdom (well, full of something anyway)
Dh said to me last night "isn't a healthy baby the most important thing?" I said well can I not have a healthy boy?!?! He really doesn't care if it's a boy or girl.
What a darling DH you have babybeaublue!

[Mrs_Incredible]

i can't stop crying as I feel the power of giving birth myself is taken from me but of course I can't face a life of incontinence etc...would you take the risk? I am also thinking of microbinomes (any one watched Microbirth?), delayed cord clamping, skin to skin etc...
I will try to get referred for a second opinion and take it fom there...

Hi hon. I had 3 quick and easy births with my boys. Like, totally perfect textbook births, in hospital, but no bother and 2 of the 3 I had no time for anything other than g&a. Then had a planned section for my dd, she was breech for at least 11 weeks, and I was very scared. But didn't want to risk something happening if I tried a regular birth. Because of my quick births before dd each time, they booked me in at 38 weeks. It wasn't as bad as I'd feared. The staff were lovely. I got skin to skin as soon as we were back on the recovery ward. I didn't have the high of a regular birth, and the recovery is much longer. But she was here safely. I was up and about the next day, and after a few days felt ok but didn't do any lifting, laundry or hoovering for a few weeks or drive til nearly 6 weeks. It gave me time to recover and bond with her, establish feeding. If it's the best option for you health wise, it's worth it. It's a different experience but not bad. I don't think I'd risk a natural birth in your circumstances (if the 2nd opinion is of the same conclusion) xx
(Natural/regular birth - just my way of saying vaginal!! Not meaning any offence to those who gave a csection (like me!), as long as baby arrives safely we are all winners!) one handed typing, plus it's late and I'm tired lol, hope this made sense :)


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[blueeyedguys]

Just fyi for those ladies experiencing SPD, lecithin can do wonders for helping with it for a lot of people. You can buy a supplement or increase your egg consumption to 2/day.

[PrimalMamma]

Oh LaVie.... I have had 2 emergency caesareans that were supposed to be homebirths. Brilliant labours, easy dilation but my boys didn't decend. With my second son I was dilated to 10cm & pushing hard for 11 hours!!! 4 of those were at the hospital waiting for surgery. After paying a fortune in scans & X-rays over the last 3 years it turns out I have a strange narrow elliptical-shaped pelvis & babies simply cannot get out. So this time I have elected a caesarean. I have seen Microbirth (my midwife & I are friends & we actually went together!) so she & I will be pioneering vaginal swabbing at our local hospital (as described in the movie) to help populate the baby's microbiome. I'm also eating a lot of fermented foods during pregnancy. Your decision is yours, but what I can tell you is hat caesarean does not have to be the tragedy that many in the natural birthing community make it out to be. Often, home birthing women are those damaged from a past traumatic caesarean. They go onto have a transformative VBAC & that is what you hear: caesareans are horrible & vaginal birth is wonderful. I believe there is significantly more gray than that. My first c/section was quite traumatic as it was totally unexpected. But my second, I had an excellent birth plan with some really simple strategies to make it better: monitoring pads fixed to my back instead of my chest. Heart rate monitors on my toes instead of my fingers. Dropping the curtain to watch baby being born, immediate skin-to-skin, no weighing or measuring until after the first breastfeed. Check out this YouTube for ideas if you do decide to go down that path. If the link doesn't work, search for "The Natural Caesarean: A Woman-Centred Approach". http://youtu.be/m5RIcaK98Yg

[laVieEnRose]

Wow, you lovely girls have totally overwhelmed me with your kind and encouraging words. Thank you for sharing your experiences too Kitkat, Mrs Incredible and Primal.
I went to my gp to request another referral but after talking to him he said it would be unlikely to hear a different advice. He made me see that it isnt worth the risk. My family has been very supportive but really encouraged me to follow the advice of the consultant and deep down I know is the right decision.

I am in a much better place than last week. I have now accepted the situation, and researched a lot of strategies to cope with this way of delivery. I have written a birth plan including vaginal swabbing, and 'walking' the baby (I saw that YouTube video Primal, so enlightening) immediate skin to skin contact, delayed cord clamping- if possible at all i also wish to be able to touch Baby as s/he is lifted out. i am just hoping that my OB will have an open mind and able to help me achieve most goals ...I'm meeting the OB on 10th feb.

I am apprehensive about the recovery and bonding with the baby. I'm searching ways to stimulate oxytocin production which isn't so high when you don't deliver naturally... So far, nothing seems to get you that high you get after natural delivery. Will ask for hugs all around at the hospital ;-)

mrs incredible: I too have had really quick labour and delivery for my 3 DS. Always been near or on due date. You said they booked you in for 38weeks. Is that the norm- about 2 weeks before due date?

Babybeau, I hope your baby gets in the right position soon.

Love to you all xxx

[Mrs_Incredible]

LaVie, glad you are feeling a bit better. It's disappointing to say the least being told that a section is your best option, but i honestly can say it wasn't nearly the trauma i was expecting it to be. I tried to look at the positives. And getting her here safely was my ultimate motivation for accepting it and not dwelling on the disappointment i felt. Ds2 arrived at 38+0 spontaneous labour one hour from waters going to holding him! Other 2 sons were 39+3 & 39+1. Because my labours were quick and before dd they didn't want to risk me going myself and staff inexperienced in breech deliveries looking after me. They usually only book sections from 39 weeks so i wasn't expecting to be taken sooner but it was reassuring that they were covering this angle. My worst case would have been a crash section and general anesthetic, another positive for the planned section!! Although there wasn't the high of a natural delivery, meeting my daughter, marvelling at her & bonding wasn't affected at all. I'd waited so long and was in awe of her, love at first sight. Just felt surreal. I made peace with the section because i really had no option and it had to be done. I would have loved it to be different but i still got my gorgeous baby, so it wasnt all that bad!! You'll have much more input into things than we have in the uk. It'll be so worth it!! Xx

[PrimalMamma]

You're right LaVie you won't find anything that gives you the natural high you get with a vaginal birth. It's the one aspect of my births that I do still grieve a little that I will never experience. What I can tell you is that not having "that moment" doesn't have to affect your overall bond with your baby. I was besotted with my second son the moment I saw him. The oxytocin flowed & through the oxytocin from breastfeeding it continued to grow. Surprisingly, my second caesarean was also transformative to the relationship I had with my first son, which was terribly disfunctional after my first traumatic caesarean. I felt the only way I could be healed was through a VBAC. Instead a CBAC healed the emotional wounds I had from my first caesarean. It was beautifully ironic, and honestly now I wouldn't swap my CBAC for a VBAC if I could. It taught me so much, made me more compassionate & less judgemental in all aspects of life. And recovery STINKS, but I'm hoping it won't be as bad for a scheduled caesarean as it was for the emergency ones after being awake for 2 days of labour beforehand.

[bluebonnet22]

Lavie - just a note to say I'm so sorry about your C-section . I was obsessed with having a med-free natural (ideally home) birth for DS1. I took the Bradley method course, read all the natural books and was so excited. Unfortunately DS1 was breech and I tried everything to turn him with no avail. I was so heartbroken leading up to my cesearean and cried daily. Something that helped me was hypnobabies C-section CD (I would listen and meditate to it daily and I do think it took away some of anger and anxiety about needing one!).

So I freaked out for no reason. The C-section was fantastic. Not the birth I wanted, but it was fast and scheduled and painless. The recovery was great for a scheduled C-section. I was walking around the evening of the surgery and by a week out I was feeling 90%. I can't compare it to a natural birth (unfortunately!), but now that I know what C section is like and know we are having twins I am opting to do another C section this time. I promise after he/she is in your arms you won't care how they were brought into this world. I'm mad at myself for wasting the last weeks of DS1's pregnancy being depressed and sad and I wish I would have just focused on enjoying my pregnancy. Good luck to you and if you do need a C section, I promise it won't be as bad as you think. Try not to dwell on it!

[Babybeaublue]

I was booked in for a section 5 days before my due date with dd4 because she was breech (I always go overdue tho) but I didn't need it in the end (after panicking and then building myself up for it!) As she started to turn and they gave her a nudge to help 2 days before. I still missed out on my water birth tho as they decided to induce me the day of the section instead. Ended up with a retained placenta and off I went to theatre anyway. I won't let them induce me early again.

[laVieEnRose]

Thank you all for you positive vibes.
I'm definitely grateful that I was a me to experience 3 natural births. I am much more positive today and see this as an opportunity to learn to let go and that I can't control everything ;-)
All that matters is that baby and I are healthy and well.
I'm getting very excited now to meet this little 'greenie'. X

[SamS_TTCPink]

Hi all

Haven't been on in a while. Its just been too hard after losing our daughter but things are getting slightly easier so I'm back and will see how I go, although I am sure things will get harder in a few weeks when I give birth to my little man and his angel sister. :(

Anyway, I am 33weeks+4days today but they won't let me go past 37-38 weeks so not long to go! Baby is breach though so I may be looking at a caesarian for the first time ever. I have given birth to a breach bub before (one of the twins were breach) but it was horrible and I don't think I could survive (literally) it again. I am super scared about my bleeding (I have always had severe PPH) being worse with a caesar and how I will deal with the post surgery recovery, but it may be the lesser of two evils??!!? I don't know, Im super scared about either option as nothing has gone right this pregnancy (have I mentioned that Ive also been diagnosed with gestational diabetes??!! on top of everything else!).

Anyway, either way I guess I don't have long to go! Although I am so over it all and it does also seem forever away!

How is everyone else???

Sam x

[SamS_TTCPink]

bluebonnet - just saw your signature and that you're having boy/girl twins. Congratulations, so excited for you. :)

[Boysway]

Sneaking in here again. Sam, wishing you the very best for the safe arrival of your little man. Sending you love, healing and strength for your delivery xx

[SamS_TTCPink]

thanks boysway. :)

[hotdogz&boyz]

Lavie: I am glad you are "coming around" to the way your babe needs to arrive. It must be tough, not knowing exactly what to expect and not being your ideal. But I do hope you feel peace with it when the day comes and your meeting of your little team Greenie is everything you hope for and more!

I'm still around, here and there. Im having some guilt issues because I am still desperately afraid of giving birth again. I just flat out don't want to do it. My last birth was a bit precipitous and, if I'm being honest, I don't want to be in pain like that again. I've had three natural, unmedicated births and am equally terrified of having another like that or having an epidural or other birth. I am going to start with a chiro soon and am having a friend giving me some prenatal reiki to help with my fears. I have a counselor, but unfortunately she is not well suited to birth fears. But I have discussed them with her. I have probably 4-5 weeks left and am just scared with how fast time is passing. I can't wait to meet my bub. But the fear is really holding me back this time.

Anyone else struggling with fears regarding this huge unknown? I'm sure many can relate (obvious Lavie can!)

[SamS_TTCPink]

I can relate to your fears hotdogz! I am terrified of the birth - whether I end up having to have a c-section or a natural birth - I am terrified either way!! :worry: I have never been so scared of labour before.

[kitkat18]

Hey ladies, mumsix I am soooo happy to hear from you and see you back! You are one strong brave lady I have thought of you heaps in the last few months!
Sorry a few of us are having fears about birth natural or c section I think the reasons are all really valid. I hope you can all find the strength to tackle this before birth. As for me its a planned c section after two emergencies to be honest I feel totally okay and at peace with it. I only know c sections and that was after long painful labours where I would have done anything to get baby out. Reiki healing sounds like a great idea! I have heard hypno birthing is great too. Not long now everyone! :home stretch: I googled how to swaddle a baby yesterday baby refresher he he! X