January 2WW [Archive] - Page 3 - Gender Dreaming Forums

QueenB3blue

January 22nd, 2015, 09:18 AM

Hope that was your positive opk tarasue!

Maiden- Glad your back;) I also find myself pulling away at times. Makes it easier to forget what's going on, or not going on:-/

8dpo. My plan to prevent myself from testing is taking a pee all the time! Keeping my bladder empty I would think keep me from testing. Morning will be the hardest time to pass up. I have been cramping on and off since 4dpo, which makes me think I am out.

Hope everyone is doing well!

Also. Wonder where MyByC has been?

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sageviolet

January 22nd, 2015, 04:11 PM

XXforhubby

January 22nd, 2015, 04:30 PM

lol at your tactics, QueenB! I might have to try that.

I noticed MyByC was missing awhile ago and contacted her privately. She was traveling and didn't have a chance this month. She might be back later, but she sounded a little depressed.

I'm 10dpo today and feeling really depressed about my temp drops. This is what happens every month. That's why I'm not testing early this time, I thought I'd just wait for good temps, but no. The plan was to poas Fri or Sat since af is due Sun. I know, you're not out until af, temps can be weird, but I'm not feeling it. Less symptoms than other bfn cycles. At least I have my appt with the specialist coming up.

The worst part of this is I'm feeling jealousy. I'm having trouble enjoying friend's babies because I keep thinking how I'm missing my own. I feel guilty watching dd play with her "baby" as she calls her doll, sad that I can't give her a real one sooner. What do you all do to stay positive? I've tried reading success stories, but I wonder if that's worse because I'm still dwelling on ttc.

I too struggle with this. Some days are better than others. Most of the time I am at peace and feel ok with just having my 2 DSs. Other times, I feel like someone is missing in my family and feel sad that it may not happen. I am working on accepting things the way they are and the possibility of not being able to have anymore children. I try to find comfort in my boys. I do feel blessed- I never thought I wanted children until DS1. When we started to ttc DS1, only ever wanted boys and feel blessed to have gotten my wish! DH had huge GD with both boys and it was the worst with DS2. DH is at peace not having a DD but sometimes feels like someone is missing from our family too. DH is ok with only having 2 children, and I am trying to get there too. I just feel like I have these huge odds against me and it is hard to not take it personally. I am slowly getting there. Today is a not so good day for me. Crying as I post this. Tomorrow is another day.

Don't know if this helps, but from a friend who is also struggling to get pregnant, I can give you hugs 💞 and some blue dust 😘💙💙💙!

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EmileeJane

January 22nd, 2015, 06:17 PM

Xx & sage- sorry you're feeling down. I am headed that direction. Trying to stay positive, but I really don't feel like I caught the egg this time. Crazy it's so hard for us all. I suppose I can look forward to starting the Femara next cycle and hopefully having a better chance. Also I'm in need of some oral surgery (yay!) That I may be able to get if I'm not pregnant. I suppose time will tell. Chin up ladies. I hope to witness future success for us all!

Rosie85

January 22nd, 2015, 07:12 PM

I already posted elsewhere but i finally got a bfp after 6 months. I sure hope it sticks.

Best wishes to everyone else!

essnce629

January 22nd, 2015, 08:42 PM

Congrats again Rosie! I think this is the best news we've had around here in a while! Hope this is your sticky bean!

kitkat18

January 22nd, 2015, 09:25 PM

Over the moon for you Rosie! I know this has been a long and emotional journey for you XX

Sunbuny

January 22nd, 2015, 09:45 PM

I'm in my 2nd 2ww this month... Bd lasts night. Fx I ovulate today and have a chance of catching the egg. Those opk tests are pesky aren't they?

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Sunbuny

January 22nd, 2015, 09:46 PM

Fantastic news Rosie!

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Rosie85

January 22nd, 2015, 11:45 PM

Thanks!!! I had no sway and did multiple attempts so it will likely be another boy but I don't care. I am just thankful to be pregnant again!

kitkat18

January 23rd, 2015, 01:08 AM

Great attitude Rosie! But I hope its your wee lady- icing on the cake of course XX

Wishing-well

January 23rd, 2015, 03:33 AM

Junie

January 23rd, 2015, 06:47 AM

Rosie- I'm so thrilled for you!!!

AFM- I did a HPT with FMU and the 2nd line was super faint. I hope all the hormones are gone in a few more days!!! No CM yet but I'm only at CD8 so it is just too early.

Everyone else try not to get down you're never out till AF shows :) I hope this group all moves on to a birth club this month!!!

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sageviolet

January 23rd, 2015, 09:03 AM

XX, you're so sweet. Sending you hugs, too, and hope today is a better day!

Emilee, I have been planning fun things to do this summer since I won't have a newborn, but oral surgery? lol I'm glad you can get it taken care of, but I hope you find some other fun things to do, too!

Rosie, congrats!!! So happy for you! FX for a sticky bean!

essence, is that an o temp rise on your chart?

Wishing-well, yes, some people have a dip or implantation bleeding, but not all. With my dd I got a big temp dip the day af was due and woke up covered in sweat. I assumed af was coming and didn't poas, but still no af two days later, so I knew I was preg! The big thing to look for is if your temp goes back up. Mine dropped this month and isn't going up again, so I think I'm out. Could it mean low progesterone for me? I see a specialist in 2 weeks and hope to get some answers.

tarasue

January 23rd, 2015, 10:32 AM

Huge congrats Rosie!!! My sway was weak and I probably had too many attempts for a girl, but like you I just want to be pregnant!!

Sunbuny- yes opk's are super pesky!!! I had a positive dollar tree test Wednesday afternoon, lots of ewcm tues-thurs, FINALLY a positive ec opk last night! Pretty good cramps last nigh, they made me jump a little, blaring positive opk this morning and lotion like cm. Does that mean I ovulated during the night? Not as crampy this morning, more sore. We did Wednesday night and then again this morning..... Not good for pink, but I just want to catch that egg😬!

So long story short, I think I just stepped into the traitorous TWW!!!

XXforhubby

January 23rd, 2015, 10:36 AM

Just a question, trying to get my head around my temp chart this month. I am 9dpo and my temp has stayed high since O day, but then yesterday and today it had dropped, just wanted some advice as I got really bummed about it, went researching on the issue ( all symptoms and signs have to be researched lol) , there can actually be a dipp in temp while implantasjon of the egg, and then again the temp will rise? Any of you ladies have any imput here, or is it a really bad sign that my temp has dropped at 9 dpo? Really bummed me out, as my temp has been high and really steady ever since o day.
It has dropped 0,5 in a couple of days, so it is quite alot too :worry:

You can get a temp dip during this time due to a second estrogen surge to build the uterine lining. It is usually around CD7-9. It can be due to implantation but it can often happen in non-pregnant cycles too. Your temp should come back up with good progesterone production. If you scroll back 2-3 pages, you can see this in my chart. AF did come, but it shows good hormone production.

FX it means your BFP is on the way!!!!

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Wishing-well

January 23rd, 2015, 10:42 AM

Thank you so much both sageviolett and XX, I am not ready to be out quite yet, Af isn`t due until next tuesday so all I kinda got is hope and even though the 2ww sucks really bad, it still gives us hope until AF comes knocking once again;(

QueenB3blue

January 23rd, 2015, 12:04 PM

So I tested this morning and I swear I see a line:-/ it is not showing up in a picture so I didn't post it because I would feel bat crazy!!! I am 9dpo and I wouldn't have even tested but I started feeling nauseous on and off yesterday and super dizzy. I was so sure I was out a few days ago because I have been having mild cramping since 4dpo. The cramping is making me a little nervous! I am hoping to get a stronger bfp in a day or so and post it with confidence;) FXFX

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Junie

January 23rd, 2015, 12:56 PM

I LOVE it QueenB!!! I'm so thrilled for you. Looking forward to hearing lots more of these announcements ladies!

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maidentomother

January 23rd, 2015, 01:11 PM

Exciting Queen!

Fx for you tarasue :)

Wishing, I've had my temps drop mid LP many a time, often over days, before going back up. As long as you're well above cover line I wouldn't worry.

Rosie, I am so, so happy for you. Finally!

XX, hugs! I know you'll get that 3rd child, and very likely a daughter, too.

mommymachine

January 23rd, 2015, 01:42 PM

Maiden just letting you know that I am doing IF. Been doing it for 5 days, and have lost 2-3 lbs already. I don't fast completely though on my fast days. I have 300-400 calories. It is going good so far!

maidentomother

January 23rd, 2015, 02:24 PM

Junie, when do you normally O around?

mommymachine, that's great! For me (I don't have much to lose), I lose the most the first 3 weeks, about 3lbs per week. After that I don't losè any more weight, though I may still lose inches off measurements. Though again, that was on a high fat diet. I know I've lost weight but have been avoiding weighing and measuring as that tends to get obsessive for me. For those TTC or to maintain but not lose weight, eating some on fasting days is probably ideal. Though I might try to fast completely one day a week, just bc it sends such a strong signal. But only if you feel up to it, which you may not ever on the LE.

I just realized I've been doing IF for over a month! No wonder I'm so hungry lately on my fasting days.

Junie

January 23rd, 2015, 02:33 PM

XXforhubby

January 23rd, 2015, 02:56 PM

Maiden- I can't believe you're able to fast, I don't think I could. According to FF and past cycles I should O on CD16 and I'm on CD9, although of course the m/c could push things back. I always have lots of great CM so I hope that will still be a reliable sign for me. What day do you think you'll O?

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I am on CD 9 too Junie! Although I think this is your cycle! I am working on accepting that I may not have anymore children. Today is a better day for me. I would say about 85% of the time I am fine with just my two boys. It is just the other 15% that is hard for me at times. The acupuncture is going well, but I am working on making peace and finding happiness with the way things are.

I'll still be around and post, both here and in your due date threads, because I guess in a way I'll permanently be in the 2ww and want to see all of your journeys through!

FX and 🙏for all of you!!

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maidentomother

January 23rd, 2015, 03:48 PM

Junie, I do ease into it. But I honestly find eating nothing often is easier than only eating a little. On fasting days I try not to think about food at all. It is definitely way easier than counting calories!

I usually O around CD18. In the past, the month I stopped Vitex O was delayed, but I'm hoping the soy iso will cause me to O earlier, at least enough so that O isn't delayed. I'm a day behind on CD8. I hope your CM continuee to be a reliable predictor of O - mine definitely won't be this month. But my CBAD works very nicely.

Sunbuny

January 23rd, 2015, 10:18 PM

Quick question for you girls... Do you still drink coke zero, diet coke or coffee during your 2ww?

I'm starting to feel depressed... I had a positive opk test on Thursday CD 13 so we BD that night... But no proper temperature shift since so I haven't ovulated. I'm now CD 15. How long does it usually take after a positive Opk before you ovulate?

I can see why I have 2 boys so far. I'm so impatient. It's so easy to say let's just BD as much as possible just you catch an egg 😐

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XXforhubby

January 23rd, 2015, 11:54 PM

I drink decaf coffee and caffeine free diet coke during the 2ww, but I normally drink these. I just drink my usual amount- 2-3 cups decaf coffee per day and one caffeine free diet coke about 2-4 times a week.

FX your temp rises soon- hope you catch the egg!

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Sunbuny

January 24th, 2015, 05:18 AM

Fingers crossed we all catch an egg this or within the next few months xx

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Junie

January 24th, 2015, 06:21 AM

XX- Your attitude is so positive and you are still so young that it is literally impossible for me to imagine you not having a third. I'm not sure why it is taking so long but I 100% believe you will have another baby and hopefully a girl.

Maiden- I guess I could see not eating at all almost being easier. I get migraines if I don't eat so not something I will be testing out anytime soon :) I hope the soy works to keep O from pushing back.

Sunbuny- Until I get a positive pregnancy test I don't change any of my eating/drinking habits.

Still no spotting! And I have a cold and feel awful which normally would suck but I'm sure it helps sway pink. We're on vacation and I am eating pretty normally but feel fine about it. While I would love a girl I'm just not ready to change too much again yet but probably will feel differently after we get home and I have my first AF.

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Wishing-well

January 24th, 2015, 07:37 AM

Well, now I am even more thrown then I was yesterday, well it started yesterday, as I said in my last post my temp took a dip yesterday, this was 10 dpo, and then early yesterday evening I got some AF cramps and then I started to bleed, but the thing is I am not expecting AF before the earliest on wednesday, last month my AF didn`t arrive before day 27 and day 27 this cycle isn`t before next thursday. My period has come on day 26 for past three cycles and then it came on day 27 last month, and now day 21:suprise:

The first thing I thought yeeeeh it is a implantation bleeding, but I am still bleeding today,not a majour bleeding,but more then just spotting, and I have AF pains.
Have I understood that implantation bleeding is just a tiny bleeding, that goes away just as quick as it has comes, or is it an actual bleeding that can stay for a few days? , because how on earth can I go from a 26 -27 day cycle to 21 day cycle. I am only on dpo 11 today so this is something I didn`t expect.
Anyone that is or has been TTC that have suddenly gotten AF way to early? And anyone know why this can suddenly happen?

Sunbuny

January 24th, 2015, 07:40 AM

Sorry Wishing Well... I wish I knew. What did your temp do this morning?

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QueenB3blue

January 24th, 2015, 08:19 AM

Wishing-Well, from what I understand if it is bleeding from implantation it only last about a day. But bleeding can happen for other reasons early on. Did your temp go back up today??
Every once in a while I will have a 21 day cycle. My cycles are usually around 23/24 days. Every once in a while one will be shorter or longer.
Hopefully you get things figured out:)

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Junie

January 24th, 2015, 08:24 AM

Wishing well. Implantation bleeding could possibly last a few days but I think it would be spotting and not a heavier flow. Are your temps back up? Otherwise this could be a weird short cycle.I think sometimes our bodies like to play tricks on us when we think we have them figured out :)

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tarasue

January 24th, 2015, 09:37 AM

Wishing well- I only had ib with my last pregnancy. It was about 8-9 dpo, nothing ever on my panties, just a hint of blood when I wiped. I noticed it in the evening and it was gone by morning.

I think I actually had spotting from ovulation yesterday. Again just a hint of blood when I wiped. Does being on clomid make ovulation more painful? Yesterday I felt like my ovary/uterus area was going to rip apart! I hope it was only one egg..... I took clomid cd4-8. Before my last pregnancy I would love twins, but after the miscarriage I don't want to complicate things any more than necessary and twins are just too much a risk.

maidentomother

January 24th, 2015, 12:05 PM

tarasue, yes it is super common for O to be extra painful on clomid. Consider it a sign that you know it worked.

Wishing, I hope it's not AF but if you check out my charts, you can see last month and a few months before I got AF on 10DPO. I have always had a naturally erratic LP though and my O moves around a lot, too.

Junie, thank you I hope so too. You probably COULD fast, btw, but you would need to ease into it very gradually to give your body time to adjust. Nearly everyone can fast - even if not completely, in which case eating very low carb on fasting days helps. My late DH was the same, very prone to headaches when his blood sugar dropped.

Sunbuny, while most of the time, maybe 60% , I O the day after my first positive OPK, I do sometimes O either the same day as my first positive or more often not until 3 days after my first positive. I don't drink coke but I occasionally have coffee or take a caffeine pill during the TWW. I don't think moderate caffeine consumption during pregnancy is a big deal.

Wishing-well

January 24th, 2015, 12:28 PM

Thank you so much ladies for all your help, temp has still not gone back up, so I will just have to wait and see, patience is a virtue:sigh:

Sunbuny

January 24th, 2015, 04:29 PM

Wishing well. - sounds like a short cycle. It feels horrible when you think you have figured it out and then it keeps us guessing again

Maiden - how do you fast and not lose too much weight? I only ask because my sister is on a diet where 2 times a week she has 500 calories, the other days she eats whatever she wants and she has lost about 3 Kg in as many weeks.

I still don't know if I ovulated. My temp was the same and im now 3 days after my first positive opk. Who knows...

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maidentomother

January 24th, 2015, 05:32 PM

Well, we may have different ideas of 'too much'. Many people do think I'm too thin after fasting hard core. My BMI will drop down to 14 before I plateau and stop losing weight. That sounds low, but I have high body fat for my size, very small, light bones and my natural BMI when not dieting or exercising at all is 17-18. I would agree that most people don't look good and probably wouldn't be healthy with such a low BMI, but I do and I am (as confirmed by several drs and regular bloodwork). The way I did IF before I started swaying I was very focused on nutrition, so even though my overall caloric intake was very low and I was very thin, I was never malnourished and I actually gained muscle without working out. If you google CRON and read about the calorically deprived scientists who lived in the biodome (II, I think), that explains how it's possible. I think going by body fat % is more useful than BMI when fasting. In my case, I couldn't drop below 16%, so at that point I ceased to lose weight. That took 6w of fasting completely 3/4 of the time for me to reach.

But...whenever people don't want to lose more weight for whatever reason, if they don't plateau automatically as I did or they don't want to go that low, they can either eat more on the eating days (which is what I do, to maintain the maximum health benefits of fasting) or eat more on fasting days. Or both even.

XXforhubby

January 24th, 2015, 05:34 PM

I sure hope AF stays away for you ladies with temp dips!

Sunbuny- maybe have another attempt just in case!

I am crossing everything and 🙏 you all get your BFPs!!!

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Sunbuny

January 24th, 2015, 05:49 PM

That's awesome Maiden! You are truly dedicated. Thank you for the explanation. I actually really like being on the LE diet most of the time. I feel pretty good.. Weight wise I haven't been better for years and same as exercise. I know it's not fasting but compared to the amount of grazing I used to do the Le diet is like fasting 😉

XX - I'm truly confused. According to FF I now ovulated on CD 13 which does make sense with my symptoms but I just didn't have much of a temp change. Usually it's obvious. We might have another attempt tomorrow incase. I don't want to have more than one attempt within the 4 day period.

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maidentomother

January 24th, 2015, 06:28 PM

Like I said, it isn't uncommon for me and I see it ALL THE TIME in other FF charts, O happening 3 days after positive OPK. If you don't get your temp rise tomorrow, only then are you past what I'd consider the normal window. In that case I'd resume OPKing in case your body surges again, and have another attempt that's 4 days after your prior one.

I was truly obsessed with IF for a year and it is one of my passions, so thank you! The health benefits, in particular life extension/staying young longer, are what appeal to me most. I am terrified of aging and would love to live forever. Additionally, I've found that after 6w of strict IF my mental capacity expands significantly, to such a point that I can read up on more advanced topics than I am normally able to comprehend. I feel more alert, need less sleep, and very clear/sharp mentally. Kind of like super caffeine but much more.

3boyswantinggirl

January 24th, 2015, 09:57 PM

I'm feeling like I'm out now :( I'm 10dpo and nipples are no longer sore, CM seems less creamy now, more watery and although my cramps are still there, they are much lighter and only noticeable if I stop to focus on them. Totally bummed out. OPKs have been getting lighter and lighter with each day even though I can still see a tiny line there. Not even sure what that means now lol. HPTs are always BFNS. *cry* having a miserable day, please don't mind me lol

Sunbuny

January 24th, 2015, 11:23 PM

I'm sorry 3boys.. Hopefully you're still in with a chance. My nipples never got sore during pregnancy so you could still be in with a chance.

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Junie

January 25th, 2015, 06:56 AM

10DPO is still SO early. Hang in there, the 2WW is awful!

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sageviolet

January 25th, 2015, 09:18 AM

Af is here. Countdown to our appt.: 9 days!

tarasue

January 25th, 2015, 09:29 AM

Darn it sageviolet:( Next month!!! Fx for you 3boys, keep us posted!

XXforhubby

January 25th, 2015, 09:35 AM

Af is here. Countdown to our appt.: 9 days!

Boo hiss hiss! I am so sorry AF showed up SageViolet! I hope your appointment is productive!

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XXforhubby

January 25th, 2015, 09:38 AM

3boys- you are not out until AF shows! FX she stays away!!

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XXforhubby

January 25th, 2015, 09:41 AM

I'm not sure what is going on! My temp just jumped at CD11! Not sure if I'll call it O or not. I'll have to see what my temp is tomorrow. But it jumped from 97.58 to 97.99?! Ah well, I'll know in 12-14 days when AF brings her bags for a visit!

FX to everyone waiting to test!!!

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XXforhubby

January 25th, 2015, 09:57 AM

F#%@k!!! I just got a positive opk! I think I tested to early yesterday and caught the second day of my surge today! That means today is O day!!

Ah well, at least it's unlikely I'll get pregnant anyway! At least I hope I don't! I have had way more cheats this cycle than ever! I just started to get strict again too! Argh!

I can't believe I am hoping I don't get pregnant 😆!

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Junie

January 25th, 2015, 11:04 AM

Sorry sage! I hope your appt really helps!!
XX- When was the last time you BD? I would love to O so early! Why do you think you are out?

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QueenB3blue

January 25th, 2015, 11:37 AM

XX! I think you should bd ASAP. You never know;) when did you last bd??

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XXforhubby

January 25th, 2015, 11:59 AM

We BD last night. I was hoping I had more time to tighten up on the diet, that is why I am hoping I don't get a BFP this cycle. Plus, I think my body needs more time to balance my hormones in order for me to get a BFP. I just hope I have more time!

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maidentomother

January 25th, 2015, 12:18 PM

XX, what will be will be. If you do conceive I think you have a great shot.

sage, sorry to hear AF came. I hope the appt goes well.

3boys, fx AF stays away.

Junie

January 25th, 2015, 02:29 PM

XX- If you get a BFP it is because your body is ready!!! I hope this is your sticky pink cycle :)

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QueenB3blue

January 25th, 2015, 02:47 PM

I am sure your cheats were fine XX! Do you think it was the acupuncture that made you O earlier than expected?

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QueenB3blue

January 25th, 2015, 03:11 PM

Maiden-I was just stalking your ff chart(sorry). You had a huge temp jump today also! Do you think you ovulated? I don't know a lot about temping:-/ I just think it is interesting that you and XX jumped at the same time. You have so much in common your bodies are even in sync. :-D
Or, maybe it is just the soy iso.........

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maidentomother

January 25th, 2015, 03:23 PM

I was pretty shocked...it is possible that the high temp is a fluke and I'm hoping so as I haven't had a chance to BD at all. I really wanted to yesterday but I haven't been feeling well and my schedule is so messed up, I went to bed at 6 am and slept nearly 12 hours! I'm not supposed to go more than 8 hours between doses of one of my meds though, as it can kick me into withdrawal and that CAN really mess with my temps. Unfortunately I slept through my alarm...

Then again, I do often sleep through my alarm and it doesn't usually affect my temps so much. If I had BDed I'd be happy to have Oed! I haven't had any fertile CM at all though I had a lot of CM yesterday.

And my chart is there to be stalked. :) Even by non-tempers. ;) You're right that it totally looks like I Oed.

QueenB3blue

January 25th, 2015, 03:39 PM

I hope you feel better Maiden:) hopefully the high temp is a fluke since you didn't get any bd in!!

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XXforhubby

January 25th, 2015, 04:44 PM

I am sure your cheats were fine XX! Do you think it was the acupuncture that made you O earlier than expected?

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Well, I am not happy about my diet. I kind of viewed this month as somewhat of a break, even though we BDed. I usually O day 13-16 and didn't expect to O CD10!

I think it is a combination of things- not being as strict on the diet (I have only gone over in calories) only BFing twice a day, and the acupuncture.

I am working on being ok not having another child. That is my goal- to make peace with the situation I am in and to be happy with what I have. It's a work in progress....

FX for everyone waiting to test! We should have a lot of ladies getting ready to test soon! I am getting excited for all of you!!

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sageviolet

January 25th, 2015, 04:52 PM

Wow, xx and maiden, you are in sync both o'ing a little early! That's interesting. I know being around other ladies regularly puts you in cycle with them, but I thought it was pheromones, so I don't know how that would happen via internet.

I'm hoping the specialist runs a bloodtest to check all of my hormones and maybe progesterone spit test. Has anyone here ever done that? I'm thinking I'm estrogen dominate or low progesterone and maybe some progesterone cream would help, but I don't want to do anything until I'm sure that's it.

Junie

January 25th, 2015, 05:26 PM

Sage- I feel like there are a few little tweaks that can make a big difference and I hope something like that helps for you :)

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Sunbuny

January 26th, 2015, 12:37 AM

Well according to FF and my own chart and symptoms it is now clear that I actually ovulated on CD 13. We bd that night but only 4 hours after using rephresh. We're probably not in with a great chance, if any are we 😣 another month of nonstop exercise.. Grrrr... I hate that my cycles were pretty regular since I started charting but since last month they are all over the place.

I hope you're feeling better Maiden and XX.. Wouldn't it be the best outcome if you did get a sticky pink bean when you were off track a bit and not expecting it. I'm hopeful for you xxx

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Sunbuny

January 26th, 2015, 12:39 AM

Sorry Sage.. I'm not up to date with what is going on with you... Are you spotting before your period? What is happening that makes you think you have low progesterone?

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sageviolet

January 26th, 2015, 09:56 AM

Thanks, Sunbuny! Ugh, I don't know how you do all the exercise. I would choose the starving couch potato option, lol. That's how I was with my dd. I had Lyme at the time, so zero energy, basically laying around all day, and feeling sick if I ate. I couldn't eat any grains, not even rice or potatoes for like 2 weeks. I don't wish Lyme on anyone and do not recommend it at all, but my experience lines up with the HE/LE theories.

I have no idea what's going on, that's why we're going to see a NaPro ob/gyn. I'm ovulating every month, our bding timing is perfect, and my lp is consistently 12 days. It sometimes it starts with spotting. That and the declining temps in the 2ww and my history make me wonder about low progesterone, but I can't say for sure. That's why I want some tests. Also my cm is not what it once was before dd. I'm not getting good ewcm at o and then I get some similar to ew at a certain point during the 2ww, and I do know that indicates the hormone balance is off.

Junie, yes, I'm thinking I just need a little tweak, but what? That's the big question. I keep trying things slightly different each month with supplements, diet, timing, bding positions, laying with hips propped, etc., but it's like playing darts in the dark -- I have no idea how to adjust my aim to hit the target!

maidentomother

January 26th, 2015, 10:07 AM

I think yesterday was definitely a fluke..phew! I also do see a little progression on my cheap OPKs, though my CBFM and CBAD are both still Low. So I'm at least 5 days away from O still. Not feeling great but that's probably bc I didn't sleep much last night, and it will help me fix my schedule so worth it for sure.

If I HAD Oed I would totally blame XX since I ALWAYS sync to other women, never the reverse. But it is via pheromones and has only happened when I spend significant time with an Oing female or live with/near one. I even synced to my last cat before I got her fixed!

sage, I wouldn't suspect a hormonal balance at all from your charts. Is that the only reason you think that?

Sunbuny your attempt sounds good to me! I don't think rephresh is that great anyway.

XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 10:19 AM

Well I am not sure if I did O on CD10. I am waiting to get more temps to be sure. When I was up with DS2 last night, from 3:30am-4:30am, I had SEVERE O pains! Luckily they have gone away now and thinking maybe I Oed then? That would explain my temp being the same as yesterday's when normally it jumps pretty high after O has happened.

Something is happening!

GL and FX for you ladies! Hoping to see more BFPs soon!!!

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maidentomother

January 26th, 2015, 01:17 PM

I usually have my worst O pain from 12-4am and then get a temp rise later that morning. Can you link your chart in your signature so we can stalk you, XX?

sage, having fertile CM after O isn't necessarily a sign of something wrong. I would want some good EWCM leading up to O for a boy sway, though. I assume you already drink lots of water, take fish oil, and have tried Mucinex? Those are all great for EWCM production. You could try sperm friendly lube. I love YesBaby which I used last cycle due to being dry and will use again if necessary.

Junie

January 26th, 2015, 02:24 PM

Sage- The good thing is that the Dr. will definitely have some good ideas/tests to try and hopefully next cycle you will already know enough or be able to make enough changes to get a BFP!

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Sunbuny

January 26th, 2015, 02:58 PM

Great that you're getting yourself checked out Sage and that you're armed with all your stats like temp and cm. Best of luck xx

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EmileeJane

January 26th, 2015, 03:15 PM

Feeling down today gals. On day 11 past pos opk. I've been having random cramping since the 5th day after pos opk. I'm guessing my chances of BFP are relatively slim.
Every thing about this ovulation seemed so much better than any of my last for months! Had EWCM on Thursday (day of pos opk) until Saturday. We DTD Tuesday evening not expecting a pos opk on day 27 of cycle. So we BD on Thursday evening too and called it good. I had O pain in both sides and lots of bloating and some minor cramping as well. All seemed good and on track. I guess I'm bumbing off of good timing to catch an egg and good CM and another BFN :(
I'll probably test Fri morning and know for sure Saturday morning this week. I'll update when I know.

XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 04:35 PM

So is the cramping making you feel AF is coming? I would say you have a great shot given your BD timing and the like. I'll be surprised if you get a BFN! Have you tested yet, or are you waiting until the day AF is supposed to show?

FX for you!!!!

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XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 04:40 PM

I've tightened back up on the diet and am hungry! Grrr! I needed to reduce cals since I am BFing DS2 twice a day now. Plus I am trying to bust my a$$ to get down to 115. I had late onset GD with DS2 and I want to still be in my normal BMI range at term. I seem to gain 25lbs when pregnant so I want to be sure to be under or at 145lbs. I fluctuate between 119-123. I want to be 115-120. Time to crack the whip!!!

I guess I am being picky. At my current range, 119-123, I am 5-9lbs lighter than when I conceived DS1 and 12-16lbs lighter than when I conceived DS2. I need some sort of goal to work towards, since it is taking FOREVER to get a BFP!

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XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 04:48 PM

I started the February 2ww thread. I can't believe it is that time already!

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QueenB3blue

January 26th, 2015, 07:43 PM

I agree with you on the exercise Sunbuny!!! I dread it every day!

Maiden I am happy that you haven't o'd yet, that way you still have a chance this month! Are you only using soy iso this month?

XX, I would love to stalk your chart also!! I only temped with my very first pregnancy and rather enjoyed it:) Kind of wish I did now but chose not to because I was afraid I would obsess over it.

Sageviolet- I really hope you can figure out things soon. FX the re has words of wisdom for you;)

EmileeJane- have you tested yet. I think cramping can be just as much a good sign then bad! Good Luck:)

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QueenB3blue

January 26th, 2015, 07:47 PM

Junie- have you been to the Dr yet? Sorry if I missed it in a post:-/ I was thinking maybe you are still waiting for your hcg to drop?? That was one of the hardest parts of my mmc journey. Sending good thoughts your way!!!

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Sunbuny

January 26th, 2015, 07:53 PM

EmileeJane... Cramping can be a good sign. I had so much cramping with my first pregnancy. Fx for you.

Wow XX... Feb already 😁😔 when should we start using that?

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essnce629

January 26th, 2015, 08:37 PM

Good luck everyone testing soon!

XX-- How tall are you? Don't get too thin as it will affect your fertility negatively, especially since you are still breastfeeding.

XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 09:45 PM

XX, I would love to stalk your chart also!! I only temped with my very first pregnancy and rather enjoyed it:) Kind of wish I did now but chose not to because I was afraid I would obsess over it.

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I'll post a pic of it tomorrow after I take my temp. I use a free period tracker, my days, that I input my temps. Thanks ladies! I think I Oed today and that is why my temp this morning was the same as yesterday. If I am right, my temp should be higher in the morning.

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XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=Sunbuny;675811]EmileeJane... Cramping can be a good sign. I had so much cramping with my first pregnancy. Fx for you.

Wow XX... Feb already 😁😔 when should we start using that?

Whenever! It's up for posting 😉!

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XXforhubby

January 26th, 2015, 09:50 PM

Good luck everyone testing soon!

XX-- How tall are you? Don't get too thin as it will affect your fertility negatively, especially since you are still breastfeeding.

I am 5ft 4in. My healthy range is 108-145. I want to get to 115 because I gain 25lbs when pregnant, and I want to be at or preferably below 145. I had late onset GD at 36 weeks with DS2, and I believe it was my weight that caused it- I was 160 when diagnosed! Yikes! But my starting weight was 135.

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blueeyedguys

January 27th, 2015, 03:16 AM

Well, I guess I'm here. Oops. Actually hoping I'm not pregnant right now. My cycle has gotten a lot shorter recently and I haven't fully adjusted. Realised after the fact that there was a good chance I'll ovulate in 2 days.

I've gotten pregnant on one try every time...just don't usually keep them, but the last time was nearly 4 years ago & I just turned 41 so, maybe not?

I had everything planned for next cycle at the earliest.

QueenB3blue

January 27th, 2015, 08:51 AM

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13dpo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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XXforhubby

January 27th, 2015, 09:14 AM

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13dpo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yay!!!!!! Congrats! I am over the moon with joy for you Queen! I am praying for a healthy, sticky, preferably pink, bean for you!!

This is AWESOME!!!!

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QueenB3blue

January 27th, 2015, 09:18 AM

Thank you!! It is crazy because this time last week I was sooo sure I was out!

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tarasue

January 27th, 2015, 09:52 AM

eleena2014

January 27th, 2015, 10:07 AM

queenb yey!!! so happy for u xxxx

XXforhubby

January 27th, 2015, 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=maidentomother;675543]I think yesterday was definitely a fluke..phew! I also do see a little progression on my cheap OPKs, though my CBFM and CBAD are both still Low. So I'm at least 5 days away from O still. Not feeling great but that's probably bc I didn't sleep much last night, and it will help me fix my schedule so worth it for sure.

If I HAD Oed I would totally blame XX since I ALWAYS sync to other women, never the reverse. But it is via pheromones and has only happened when I spend significant time with an Oing female or live with/near one. I even synced to my last cat before I got her fixed!

Maiden- we really are cosmically connected somehow, because we both keep experiencing the same things, give or take a day or two! I don't think I have Oed yet either and will attempt again tonight. I think the acupuncture is affecting things and bet I need the full 12 weeks before things balance out. I have attached my chart. Funny though, I am getting negative opks and you see the day of my positive on my chart with the yellow egg. Could I have a surge that far out from actual O? Or was that a false surge, and should I keep testing?

The 2 high temps, I was up in the middle of the night with DS2, and I bet that was the cause.

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QueenB3blue

January 27th, 2015, 10:20 AM

QueenB yea!!! So excited for you! Jan 2ww needed to start seeing some positives!! Let's keep this ball rolling! I'm 4dpo..... Time goes so slow. I've been having cramping so I'm wondering if the clomid may have caused a cyst on my left ovary(that's the side that hurts). Or maybe it's just the egg working its way down:)

This cycle I started feeling cramping right away! I swear at one point it felt like the egg was working its way down! But like I said before I don't want people thinking I am craaaazy!
I know clomid can make you cramp all cycle long also:) FX the cramping is a good sign for you also!!

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mommymachine

January 27th, 2015, 10:36 AM

Hurray!!!!!!! Congrats QueenB!!!

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EmileeJane

January 27th, 2015, 11:26 AM

YAY QUEENB! Congrats! That is amazing, cheers☆☆☆
Keep us posted!

Yes Xx I did take a hpt 2 days ago (10 dpo) it was negative of course. The cramps do feel period-esque but I'm sure they're on track with the 'normal' process.
I'm now 12 dpo today. Had some mild lower back cramping last night. Even though every pregnancy is different, the way I knew I was pregnant with DS2 was at roughly 14 dpo my nipples were SO painful. I don't have anything like that so far. I suppose it's all so hard to tell because the early pregnant/not pregnant symptoms can be so similar.
I'll be testing on Friday and let you all know for sure.

Good luck to the few of us still waiting to test this month !

Good luck to the Feb 2ww group! I may see you there!

Congrats again to you Queenb!

maidentomother

January 27th, 2015, 01:00 PM

EJ, I hope the cramping is a good sign for you. You're not out yet.

Queen, so happy to see a BFP for you! I hope this is your daughter. Yup, I'm only doing SI. I do take antihistamines and sudafed daily for allergies though...I think I've been on them so long at this point that my body has mostly adjusted. I still get EWCM on them. I'm being very strict with the diet and IF and am still losing weight I think.

XX, what are those hearts on your chart? I do agree we have a connection! Our temps are often very similar, too. So you has just one positive OPK 2 days ago? What brand OPK are you using? I think 115 is perfectly fine for 5'4" provided you don't have a stocky/muscular build. I am taller but I look almost plump at 115. I'm skinny fat though, with seriously no muscle. What's your build/bone structure/muscularity like?

I think I will get my first High today, just waiting until the CBAD holder lets me test. My cheap OPK is alot darker today and I have EWCM. So I should O around CD17. FX. That's normal timing for me so either the SI counteracted the Vitex or neither did anything.

XXforhubby

January 27th, 2015, 02:33 PM

[QUOTE=maidentomother;676042]EJ, I hope the cramping is a good sign for you. You're not out yet.

Queen, so happy to see a BFP for you! I hope this is your daughter. Yup, I'm only doing SI. I do take antihistamines and sudafed daily for allergies though...I think I've been on them so long at this point that my body has mostly adjusted. I still get EWCM on them. I'm being very strict with the diet and IF and am still losing weight I think.

XX, what are those hearts on your chart? I do agree we have a connection! Our temps are often very similar, too. So you has just one positive OPK 2 days ago? What brand OPK are you using? I think 115 is perfectly fine for 5'4" provided you don't have a stocky/muscular build. I am taller but I look almost plump at 115. I'm skinny fat though, with seriously no muscle. What's your build/bone structure/muscularity like?

The hearts are when we BD. We were naughty and BD two days in a row 😉. I thought I would O later and we were safe. Who knows though! I doubt I'll get a BFP anyway. That is why I was
Pi$$ed when I got my positive opk so early.

I use wondfo and confirm with a CBD. I normally have a 2 day surge, but my urine was more dilute the day before my positive opk.

I used to be muscular, but I am now VERY lean since swaying. I look fit but very lean. I have a very small bone structure/frame.

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tarasue

January 27th, 2015, 02:48 PM

This cycle I started feeling cramping right away! I swear at one point it felt like the egg was working its way down! But like I said before I don't want people thinking I am craaaazy!
I know clomid can make you cramp all cycle long also:) FX the cramping is a good sign for you also!!

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I wouldn't say you are craaazy:) I feel the same way, but I'm only 4dpo.... Time will tell!

Sunbuny

January 27th, 2015, 03:11 PM

Congrats to you QueenB3blue!!!!! 😃🎉🎈

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sageviolet

January 27th, 2015, 03:52 PM

Congrats, Queen!!!

Maiden - lol at the cat! I've never heard of that happening. Yeah, at first glance my charts look good, but why am I not pregnant yet? I've tried the mucous tablets. They don't seem to do anything! I've tried PreSeed. No bfp. Maybe I just need to be patient, but I'd like a checkup. Maybe it's dh and I can blame him? lol Another oddity (tmi warning), af has been very heavy and clotty/mucous-like, but then it's suddenly over. Like I was bleeding very heavy yesterday with clots, and today af is almost done, just smudges.

Thanks for all the encouragement, Junie and Sunybuny and Queen. This is a new dr and I'm a little nervous. I chose her because NaPro looks at charts and tries to find root causes. I don't want to be put on clomid and sway girl, lol!

FX for you Emilee!

Essnce, your chart looks nice!

maidentomother

January 27th, 2015, 04:05 PM

Sage, I do think NaPro is great; I really like that they use bioidentical hormones. So if something is wrong, I think you'll be in good hands. I would absolutely have yoir DH do a SA, ASAP! How long did it take to conceive your daughter?

As far as the cat, I have never heard of anyone syncing to theirs. I assume it is really rare. I was just annoyed I synced to her not vice versa! I guess my pheromones are very weak?

XX, ahh that makes sense. It js strange you haven't had more of a temp rise yet. Do you think it was a false positive OPK? Did you have almkst positives before and after or was it a one off out of the blue? If the latter, maybe your urine was super concentrated? You don't normally O quite this early, right?

115 sounds great for you then, based on your body type.

XXforhubby

January 27th, 2015, 05:38 PM

XX, ahh that makes sense. It js strange you haven't had more of a temp rise yet. Do you think it was a false positive OPK? Did you have almkst positives before and after or was it a one off out of the blue? If the latter, maybe your urine was super concentrated? You don't normally O quite this early, right?

115 sounds great for you then, based on your body type.

I started testing on CD8, like I normally do, and I got blaring negatives on CD8, 9, and 10. I was shocked when I got a positive in CD11 on a wondfo and a CBD. On CD12 they were both clearly negative. I used to O on CD11-14 and have a 12-15 day LP before I had kids. I think my body is starting to go back to that because my last cycle was 26 days. I always had a 24-28 day cycle, with 26 being what I had the most, before having kids. I think the acupuncture is working!

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essnce629

January 27th, 2015, 08:16 PM

WooHoo QueenB! So incredibly excited for you! I hope this is your sticky pink bean! Congrats!

EmileeJane

January 27th, 2015, 10:32 PM

Oh boy, stuff is certainly happening in my uterus. I cannot tell if it's gearing either to grow a baby or start AF. I usually don't get low back aches but I have a lot today, cramping too. So if she comes soon she's likely to make life rough! These last few days are hard! Also because I'm home in stead of busy at work. Ugh!

XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 12:00 AM

kitkat18

January 28th, 2015, 12:04 AM

Yah!!!! Queen bee x

Junie

January 28th, 2015, 04:35 AM

Great lines! What a nice thing to see this morning. I'm so happy for you QueenB!

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Junie

January 28th, 2015, 05:56 AM

I'm having period like bleeding so I don't know what is going on. I've heard that it is very very uncommon to get AF only 2 weeks after D&C and without ovulating but I could be one of the unlucky ones. Thankfully my tests are almost completely white so I think my body realized pretty quickly that I am not pregnant anymore. I have a Drs. Appt with ultrasound tomorrow and I'm sure I will find out more. I was so hoping to get lucky this cycle though :(

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Sunbuny

January 28th, 2015, 06:06 AM

Sorry to hear that Junie. Best of luck at the Dr's tomorrow. Hope you get the best results possible for the situation

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Wishing-well

January 28th, 2015, 06:31 AM

Yes QueenB congrats, FX for sticky pink for you:ttcgirl:

maidentomother

January 28th, 2015, 08:16 AM

XX, if your cycles used to be on the shorter side, it makes sense that your body would go back to that. What did your temp do today?

I had my big temp drop this morning, yay!

Junie, I'm so sorry you're bleeding. I hope it's just breakthrough bleeding and that your body Os soon despite it (which CAN totally happen). I'm glad you're going to the dr though. Hopefully the ultrasound shows some almost mature egg(s).

Junie

January 28th, 2015, 09:41 AM

maiden: Nice temp drop- do you think you O'd or are going to soon?

Sunbuny: Thanks so much! Time will tell :)

EmileeJane: I am so sorry that you have not gotten your BFP yet. I think it is just too early and I hope you get one very soon!

Tarasue: Are you going to test early or try to wait as long as possible?

AFM: I just hate not knowing what is going on. Unfortunately I have not become more zen about TTC and am just as obsessed as I always was. I dropped temping for my last BFP after charting for both of my boys but I just ordered a new basal thermometer and I am back on the charting train. OPKs don't work for me since I almost always have positive ones and I just want to know if I am waiting for AF or O or what.

I know everyone says that the first cycle after a M/C is crazy but I'm a boy mom- I can't handle that LOL. Honestly I think I am either gearing up for AF or I'm actually gearing up to O. The timing would fit and I think the bleeding would be heavier if it was really AF. I think this is one of those I just have to be patient things which I can't stand :D

2boysJustOneGirl

January 28th, 2015, 10:02 AM

Junie I know exactly how you feel. Post miscarriage was such a confusing and frustrating time for me so I sympathize with you.

XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 10:02 AM

Junie- I totally get it! I think you have to do what you believe you have to do. I would temp too in your shoes. Hell, you see I am! It is the only somewhat obsessed thing I am doing though. But like you, I want to know what my body is doing and if improvements are happening. I am hoping beyond hope that you get to try this cycle! Please update us after your appointment! FX and 🙏!!!

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XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 10:06 AM

Maiden- Well my temp shot up this morning and usually goes to 98something after I O. But looking at my chart, what should I call O day? Do I need more temps? I felt I may have Oed last night and we BD. I hope we caught the egg! I know you can't go by cramping, but this cramping felt different than a few days ago.

What do you ladies think?

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Junie

January 28th, 2015, 10:10 AM

Thanks XX! I've decided that since I am OK with another boy and I know that I can't help myself from thinking about it. I might as well temp to be a little bit less in the dark :)

My Dr. is great but I'm not sure how helpful the appt will be. I think bottom line is I will know whether there is anything still in my uterus which shouldn't be there and he might give me a tip where I am at in my cycle BUT he doesn't want me already trying (for emotional reasons I think) so I don't know how much he will say.

Do you think you have O'd yet XX?

Junie

January 28th, 2015, 10:12 AM

Just saw your other post XX:D I would say you O'd on the 23rd or 27th. Do you have any CM to go along with the temps? How does your chart compare to previous ones? I think it will become clearer in a few days.

XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 10:30 AM

Thanks Junie! I did have a huge run of EWCM on the 22-25th. TMI- On the 25th I had some chunky brown CM in the evening when I went to the bathroom. On my panty liner I noticed a pink spot but not when wiping. It went away and has not returned since. I'm not sure when I Oed either. Maybe I had a fall back rise yesterday and Oed earlier. You're right, time will tell!

I sure hope your Dr gives you information on where you may be at in your cycle. FX for you!

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maidentomother

January 28th, 2015, 11:35 AM

Junie, I think it's great that you're charting again! I think the fact that you've charted before will make it less of a blue sway factor, bc it's not a new project you're starting, just an old habit you're resuming. And I really hope the bleeding is due to impending O, if you haven't Oed already. OPKs don't work well for me either bc I almost never get true positives. Very frustrating indeed.

I definitely don't think I've Oed but it's coming along on notmal schedule. When my temp drops to its lowest point, usually 97.5, it means I've had a big estrogen surge and should get my LH surge within 2-5 days. So it's even possible I'll O tomorrow, though I doubt it based on my cervix.

XX, I think you probably Oed yesterday, if you have Oed. I don't think you Oed on the 23rd. Your temps are VERY similar to mine, and some months I O on the day my temp rises to 98.2, while other months I O the day before. So I think it's also possible you will O today. But I'm leaning towards yesterday since your positive OPK was a while ago. Your timing is great either way so YAY!

Very annoyingly, I mis-dipped my CBAD tester, and it smeared so I got a false Peak reading & now I can't test for 48 hours! My monitor is still saying Low. But I will try to BD tonight just in case...even though I really don't think I will O tomorrow. But I'd rather have 2 attempts in my fertile period than miss O.

XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 12:29 PM

I agree Maiden! I would BD tonight just in case. At this point getting a BFP is important, and you have been strict with the diet and such so I think that would sway more, IMO.

I think I may have Oed yesterday or last night too. I feel we timed BDing well this time so FX! If I don't get a BFP this cycle, we'll do BD every 2-3 day next cycle, and then move to everyday from end of AF through O or 4DPO depending on temps/opks the following cycle. Time to start to pull out all the stops!

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maidentomother

January 28th, 2015, 12:50 PM

So funny how our cycles are in sync, we're both on cycle 7 TTC, and we have the same plan for the next 2 cycles. :) I will do BD every 3 days next month though...bc March will be the last cycle TTC for a while, so I feel I shouldn't go all out until then. I DO very much agree that so long on the diet, especially considering the IF and recent weight loss, will sway enough to sway pink despite multiple attempts. And women do get girls with multiple attempts. Plus I feel BD every day for 2 weeks will sway a bit pink.

I wouldn't do every other day or more than one attempt per day when fertile, though, as those I fear sway strongly blue.

You really worded it perfectly though...time to pull out all the stops! That's EXACTLY how I feel at this point.

XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 02:48 PM

I agree Maiden! That is why I have buckled down with the diet and have started to lose weight. I too feel this will offset the increase with attempts. Today is a fasting day and am enjoying it! I am having an iceberg salad with veggies that I am finding very refreshing! When fasting, I prefer fruits and veggies with a high water content and crunchy, if possible. It satisfies me and is low in cals. I have been doing 200-400 on fasting days, which are twice a week since I am still BFing twice a day still. It hasn't effected my milk supply so that is good!

FX for the rest of us ladies waiting! I hope to see more BFPs!!!

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maidentomother

January 28th, 2015, 03:45 PM

I've always wondered if IF would affect supply, so thank you for that input! I should add (for anyone reading this interested in IF), that I do NOT recommend serious IF for moms BFing babies under a year, and I don't recommend any type of fasting for pregnant women or moms BFing babies under 6 months.

Those foods sound ideal for fasting days, bc they're high volume and high water, too, so they help promote fullness. Good call! I tend to do low cal packaged soup or larabar type raw fruit&nut bars, or an apple/orange.

We need to get pregnant so we can (hopefully) show that IF sways pink!

EmileeJane

January 28th, 2015, 04:10 PM

Had a dream that I got a BFP last night. I woke up this morning, 13 dpo and took a test and it was a BFN!
I know it may still be possible but it seems unlikely at this point. Every time I am so sad, mad, frustrated. I have to let go of this hope I had for this October baby.
I am impatiently waiting AF so I can start temping. I have been using opks for 8-9 months but will be temping as well for the first time. I have my BB thermometer and some charts. I will also start Femara on CD 5 to help get a good egg hopefully.
Ugh I am down.
I will see you all in the Feb 2ww.

mommymachine

January 28th, 2015, 04:20 PM

I have been doing IF for a week now and not only has it not lessened my supply, it has me making MORE milk! I think because on my eating days I am taking in 2200 calories which is more than I usually would.

Just what I have noticed! But DD2 is 14.5 months and on solids and cows milk as well.

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XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 04:25 PM

Aw EmileeJane, hang in there honey! You are not out till AF shows! With DS2, I didn't get a BFP until I was 18-20DPO! You may have Oed later, which causes AF to show later and a later BFP.

FX for you! Either way, you have a good chance. Femara will help!

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XXforhubby

January 28th, 2015, 04:29 PM

[QUOTE=mommymachine;676642]I have been doing IF for a week now and not only has it not lessened my supply, it has me making MORE milk! I think because on my eating days I am taking in 2200 calories which is more than I usually would.

Just what I have noticed! But DD2 is 14.5 months and on solids and cows milk as well.

DS2 is 19mo and I am surprised mine hasn't dried up! I only IF twice a week and eat 200-400 cals those days. On non-IF days I stick to LE limits and 1400-1600 cals. I nurse twice a day though. He is also eating solids and drinking cow's milk.

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maidentomother

January 28th, 2015, 05:12 PM

EJ, I'm sorry about the BFN. I agree with XX though, some ladies do get late BFPs (myself included) so there's still hope. What a cruel dream though! :( That would upset me, too. If you're not pregnant, femara will only help both your sway and chances of conception, and temping so you know you've timed BD well will be nice, having that confirmation.

mommymachine, theoretically IF should be able to increase supply bc of how it revs the metabolism. Thank you as well for that input! I'm hoping, if I have a girl first, to be BFing and moderate IFing but while eating a more boy friendly diet (but no snacking & reduced cals), and see if that plus pink friendly BD results in a girl or a boy. I want to know if IF can (over)compensate for a higher fat + protein/nutritious diet including red meat, oats, and fish oil. I'll avoid other vitamins & fortified foods, and exercise if possible. I love using myself as a test subject, hopefully I can intentionally sway for all my kids.

QueenB3blue

January 28th, 2015, 06:13 PM

XX- at first I was going to say you o'd on the 23. But then I remembered you had a *opk on the 25th, so maybe you did just o??
Maiden- yes! Bd tonight!

Junie- I think you should temp. I actually think it would calm you. I am glad you are getting an ultrasound tomorrow. Will they check your hcg also?

EmileeJame- don't lose hope! FX

Blueeyedguys- welcome and good luck! All my guys are blue eyed also;)

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Rosie85

January 28th, 2015, 06:50 PM

Queen come join me in the sept/oct due date thread...it is so empty in there!

Junie

January 28th, 2015, 07:26 PM

Emilee- I'm so sorry you got a BFN today, I hope it is too early. If you do end up having to join me in next month's thread your plan sounds great!!

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MissyMc7

January 28th, 2015, 08:43 PM

Congrats QueenB!!

essnce629

January 28th, 2015, 10:07 PM

EmileeJane

January 28th, 2015, 10:19 PM

Thank you all for being here for me.
Just looking at some of your charts and Google-ing ovulation/cm makes me think I probably O'd on Saturday instead of Thursday or Friday. I'm interested on what my chart will look like temping for a month. If nothing else I suppose it will keep me busy!
Thanks for your support. Chat with you all soon.
Good luck for catching the egg! I'm excited to hear some more BFPs!

Junie

January 29th, 2015, 05:46 AM

Emilee- Charting can be SO helpful. I use the website Fertilityfriend and love it. They make it super easy to interperet your charts- they also make it easy to obsess though as they can track symptoms and compare to all the other women on the site. But you don't have to use it to it's full potential :D If you O'd on Sat then it could also still be too early for your BFP! :)

AFM- I had a super Dr's. appt this morning! Everything looks great- nothing remained, and he gave me the go ahead to start trying as soon as I want (I was shocked as he can be a bit conservative!) He said AF generally comes around the 4 week mark +/- 1 week. He didn't give me any hints as to where I am in my cycle but that would mean I should be Oing anytime in the next week. I'm so excited to be TTC again! He also said the spotting was totally normal.

sageviolet

January 29th, 2015, 09:06 AM

Maiden - The m/c was after 2 months of trying and dd was a calculated experiment 2 months later before we officially started trying again. I was still on the Lyme treatments and thought I couldn't get preg, but I knew if it happened I'd be done by the time I got a bfp. So yeah, 7 cycles so far this time, and within that amount of time before, I was pregnant twice.

XX - Glad the acupuncture is resetting your cycle! Every day is one day closer to your Goldie!

Junie - Hooray!!! Happy bding!

Emilee - *hugs* I hope you like temping. I enjoy it! I do worry when dd wakes me up during the night, but I've found it doesn't affect me much.

essnce - Your chart is awesome! Please poas!

maidentomother

January 29th, 2015, 09:59 AM

I’d be extremely skeptical of using rat studies to draw conclusions about humans when it comes to fertility.

The human and rat reproductive strategies are completely different. Humans have 1 or 2 babies per year. Rats gestate in 3-4 weeks, have up to a dozen babies in expectation that half of them will die, and are ready to be impregnated within 72 hours of delivery.

OBVIOUSLY female rats would get a little freaked out if there weren’t food around for a few hours… because their lives run at 1/16 of human scale. If you were a rat and you didn’t have food available, and were faced with the prospect of generating 10 ratlings in 3 weeks, I’m sure you’d shut that whole thing down until you found food, too. And I’m sure it would stress you out.

Humans, on the other hand, have a reproductive system that’s extremely tolerant of the metabolic up/down regulations that happen in the face of more/less macronutrients.

It HAS to work that way. Otherwise we’d miscarry whenever the hunt didn’t go so well, and that would be a ridiculous and needless expense of energy.

I’m not trying to discount anecdotal reports of IF not going so well for women. I have no doubts that IF is not for everyone.

But let’s at least start looking at the actual reasons why, and not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

For instance, most women try to do a low-fat / high-protein / moderate carb version of IF for whatever reason. And that is disastrous for hormones for women, absolutely.

Signed,

a woman who has been very successfully IFing for over a year on a high-fat / moderate protein / carbs-only-after-training diet, and got pregnant the first time she didn’t use protection.

(Comment from Naomi Most) -This sums up some of the issues with the rodent study. Also, the rats were eating bad quality food AND were calorie restricted, neither of which I do or recommend when TTC.

As for women doing Paleo + IF reporting bad results...that may be the case. What you eat when IFing, especially if you are also restricting, calories, makes a huge difference. I have never eaten a Paleo diet as I personally do well eating grains and carbs, so I can't commenf on that. Other than to say that I have never lost O when doing IF.

I DO agree that IF doesn't always work well for everyone or every diet. And how extreme you can/should do it varies greatly.

XXforhubby

January 29th, 2015, 10:34 AM

I agree Maiden! Fasting is not for everyone and people need to make the best decisions for themselves.

AFM- I cannot go below 120lbs without drastic measures. Once my body starts losing, I can dial things back but this is a huge weight set point for me. Also there is no way I could fast more than two days BFing DS2 twice a day. I would lose ovulation if I did. Once I get to my goal weight, 115lbs, I can easily maintain my weight without having to fast. We are approaching Lent though (I'm catholic), and I'll have to fast once a week anyway. I fast traditionally, not the Vatican II way that allows you to have two small meals and one full meal a day with no meat at all on Fridays. So me adding one more day is no big deal, although Lent won't start until February!

I appreciate the concern, and I am glad you ladies care about us! I love the community here and feel so supported. What we are doing and going through- we often can't talk about it with anyone else. So thank you Essnce! It is nice to have someone nudge us to reflect on things 😘!

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maidentomother

January 29th, 2015, 10:46 AM

Girls doing IF, please be careful. There are some interesting studies showing that IF may be more beneficial to men than women, especially when it comes to fertility. Female rats had decreased fertility, decreased size in ovaries, and increased masculinization when fasting. All things you definitely don't want when trying to get pregnant. I definitely wouldn't want IF to make it even harder for you to get pregnant as swaying girl and the LE diet already does that!

I thought of you all when I came across this today: Paleo for Women | Shattering the Myth of Fasting for Women: A Review of Female-Specific Responses to Fasting in the Literature (http://paleoforwomen.com/shattering-the-myth-of-fasting-for-women-a-review-of-female-specific-responses-to-fasting-in-the-literature/)

I am familiar with that post, and there are several reasons I disagree with most of her conclusions. I won't get into them all myself since that would definitely not be good for my sway, but I will say that even if IF is as bad for women as Stefani claims, it would still be a strong pink sway factor! I do agree women TTC should be careful with IF and listen to their bodies above all. Also, when IFing, it really matters what food you eat. Paleo is very different from the LE. I am not a fan of Paleo personally so I can't comment on the anecdotal response of women who eat Paleo snd IF, bc I have always eaten lots of carbs including grains.

Here is a great rebuttal from a more thorough scientific mind, IMO: Intermittent fasting for women (http://www.kropblog.dk/en/intermittent-fasting-for-women/)

tarasue

January 29th, 2015, 10:52 AM

Wow!! I was off the site for one day and there was so much catch up to read!

Junie: I'm so glad your dr appt went well and you got the go ahead!!! I am 5-6 dpo and am hoping to wait until Monday morning to test. I will only be 10 dpo but I am a poas addict so it will be a miracle if I can wait until then!

Is there anyone else about 5-6 dpo right now?

The IF diet is so tempting to me but for my own mental well being I'm not jumping on that ship. It's interesting that your milk production is increasing mommy machine and xx. I had such a hard time producing enough milk as it was. I think when I was b-fing I was working out too much and not getting enough calories or water:/

Sorry Emileejane. Bfn are bad enough as it is without having a dream that gets your hopes up...

maidentomother

January 29th, 2015, 11:47 AM

Oops, I didn't mean to post twice! I kept getting weird error messages I've never seen before so I thought my posts didn't go through! Anyone else ever see Sucuri Cloud error pages?

Junie, I am so happy all is well and you go the official go ahead! Maybe we'll O together. :)

XX, I also fast religiously for Yom Kippur (I'm Jewish). Many religions include fasting, and I do find the mental clarity from fasting to be spiritually useful.

sage, so you conceived both times before while sick with Lyme's? Or was your loss before you had Lyme's? I had LD 2 summers ago and it was brutal. :( I definitely get why you're concerned now about conceiving. I feel similarly since I always conceived quickly before, but I've been chalking it up to Vitex and one attempt. What supps do you take?

tarasue, you definitely don't need to IF to get a girl so just ignore us! It can take a lot of mental willpower to maintain healthy habits after ED so you should be proud of yourself for not slipping back. I do know lack of food/water has a huge effect on milk supply so that could be to blame. Then again, some women just have naturally lower supply no matter what they do, and you could be in that category. I have so much trouble drinking enough fluid for just me that I'm afraid I won't be able to drink enough for a good milk supply.

EmileeJane

January 29th, 2015, 11:53 AM

Junie- so glad to hear your appt went well and you got the green light to try! What a relief! Good luck!
Still waiting here! I'm researching temp charts now and will check in when I start and if I need help from you gals!

EmileeJane

January 29th, 2015, 12:17 PM

XXforhubby

January 29th, 2015, 02:48 PM

Okay well AF just showed up! Being this early in the am I would assume this is CD 1 although so far just spotting. Also i clearly didn't temp this morning.
So tomorrow I would temp and write it under day 2 on chart?

See you all in Feb 2ww!

That's right! GL and FX for you! I'll most likely see you in the Feb 2ww too! I won't test until the 8th or the 9th at the earliest.

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Junie

January 29th, 2015, 04:00 PM

Okay well AF just showed up! Being this early in the am I would assume this is CD 1 although so far just spotting. Also i clearly didn't temp this morning.
So tomorrow I would temp and write it under day 2 on chart?

See you all in Feb 2ww!
I'm very sorry to hear that AF arrived. Many people don't temp while having AF or at least not for the first few days- but if you are excited to start- go for it! :) I would count today as CD1. Big hugs- do something nice for yourself tonight!

Junie

January 29th, 2015, 04:11 PM

I've found it really interesting to read all of your ideas and experiences with things like IF ladies!

I have to say that my personal opinion is that for *most* people diets (all diets) are terrible. All the energy that people end up spending on thinking about food (foods which they can't eat, foods which they can, when they can eat, when they can't,etc) are such a waste. Diets normally fail and I found my time will doing LE to be really unhealthy for me personally. Before I literally never thought about food- besides hmm what am I hungry for/what should I make for dinner/what should I order and it was great. I ate when I was hungry, and depending on what was available what I was hungry for. On LE I constantly thought about food. Can I eat that? Ooh I would love to eat something but that would be a snack... how much fat/sugar/protein does that have? Of course over time it became easier but it was never natural for me to eat that way and I can't imagine trying to live with restrictions as a permanent or semi-permanent lifestyle.

My husband and I recently watched the documentary "Fed Up" which is about all the sugar in American food (80% of the food in the grocery store in the U.S. has added sugar), the terrible fast food which is offered in many school cafeterias, the huge increase in diabetes in children,etc. It was very eye opening and sad and just recommitted to me that the best thing people can do is just try to cook from scratch. I don't think it needs to be organic/vegetable based/without fat/etc but just the simple act of not buying processed foods or trying to avoid them would probably make a huge difference for many people who struggle with diet and exercise. Obviously I've veered a bit off track now but I guess overall I could never consider something like IF as a healthy choice that anyone should make without very clear reasons for wanting to do so :) However I would say the same for most diets.

But since we all have the very clear goal of trying to have a boy or girl I think the diets definitely make sense! :)

Junie

January 29th, 2015, 04:13 PM

XXforhubby

January 29th, 2015, 04:30 PM

Junie- the LE diet is so much of a habit now for me. When I started back last March, (very loose then very strict since last May) I never thought I could get used to it! I was like you, always thinking about food and counting everything. Now the only time I need to count things is when I need to drop calories. Once I get the hang of it, usually about a week, then I can eat things without thinking about it. It has become easy for me to avoid snacking. Before marrying DH, I naturally ate the LE way. My habits slowly changed and that is why I have two lovely boys! The LE diet does not or should not be unhealthy! I still eat very healthy, just LE foods. I am doing the fertility version with limiting protein still, so a fertility hybrid. I do stick to upper limits of fat as I don't want my fertility to get even worse than it already is!

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Junie

January 29th, 2015, 04:37 PM

I know you do it in a healthy way XX! And things like no snacking definitely aren't extreme. I just think for normal life diets aren't necessary. Clearly you can eat in many different ways and still be healthy and I think people shouldn't fight their nature. Unfortunately some have never been allowed to develop a healthy relationship with food and I think that is really sad as it can lead to a lifetime struggle.

But yeah I think you and Maiden are very aware of your health and eat in a way which works well for you :)

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tarasue

January 29th, 2015, 04:54 PM

Junie

January 29th, 2015, 04:57 PM

Tarasue- Reading this just makes me want to give you a very big hug. I'm sure if you have a girl you will go to great lengths to make sure that she grows up with a happy and healthy attitude to food :)

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tarasue

January 29th, 2015, 05:55 PM

Thanks junie for the cyber hug and kind words. I want a girl so bad, but at the same time it scares me to death! Girls struggle so much with body image as it is. But if I do get a girl I know I will need to watch my words and actions as not to set a bad example. Time will tell, I can't worry about having a girl yet, as I'm not even pregnant;)

2boysJustOneGirl

January 29th, 2015, 06:30 PM

I feel like my life since I was 12 years old been a diet, no I can't eat this or I need to run 10 miles because I ate a cookie! Constantly obsessing over what I put in my mouth.... even water, because heaven forbid I add water weight! I have lived this way for 24 years now... I know I will never be free of it. Atomic doesn't even have me counting my intake for fear of relapse.

All of this makes me wonder if God didn't give me boys because of my struggles being a girl with an ED? His way of maybe stopping the spread of that mental gene? I may not be making any since..... Just rambling on my thoughts and feelings:). I'll stop now!

Tarasue I feel the same way about why I didn't (and won't) get a girl. I don't struggle with an ED but self image and self esteem have always been an issue with me. I feel like I am not pretty enough to have a girl or have the right body to pass onto a daughter- and what kind of mother wants to pass poor self esteem into their child? For those reasons I feel like I am not allowed a girl- for I will surely screw her up.

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XXforhubby

January 29th, 2015, 06:30 PM

Tarasue- I think you'll be a great girl mom! I think the best thing to do is always be honest. You can tell her about your struggle when she is old enough to understand and not effect her negatively. I agree about watching actions/words to a point. You do have to be honest and kids always KNOW when you are not! Maybe talk to your doctor and counselor for advice too. I would also let the pediatrician know too, privately, so he/she can be aware too. We all have vices though, that could potentially effect our kids. We just never know what they'll pick up! I think good communication and fostering acceptance early on in their childhood has a dramatic impact.

I am a high school science teacher, and this is what I have noticed over the years, before and since becoming a parent. You'll be great and deserve a girl just as much as anyone [emoji8]!

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XXforhubby

January 29th, 2015, 06:34 PM

I just want to give you two a hug! 2boys and Tarasue- you most definitely deserve a girl! The fact that you two are aware of your weaknesses is what sets you apart from those that don't. You'll be mindful parents to these girls and make new and different mistakes with them. Hugs [emoji8]!

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tarasue

January 29th, 2015, 11:36 PM

Thank you xx and 2boys. It's nice to have you guys to get my fears and frustrations out without being judged to harshly.

XXforhubby

January 30th, 2015, 12:25 AM

Well I have finally gotten to a place of peace. Tonight, while playing with my boys a sense of calm and peace overcame me. I can totally be satisfied with just my boys. I love them SO much! I am glad this happened. I'm sure we will still try and have well timed BDing, but I can finally say I will be ok with just my boys.

I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders! Perfect timing too, since I am 3dpo!

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tarasue

January 30th, 2015, 10:41 AM

I get feelings like that too xx, I love my little family, why mess with that. Then I see a diaper commercial or a couple in church with a new baby and I'm back to square one:/

Junie

January 30th, 2015, 11:09 AM

So normal Tarasue! I also had feelings of contentment when it seemed like DH might not come around but especially after losing the baby both DH and I are as sure as we can be that we want a third and I think it would take quite a bit for us to give this dream up.

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maidentomother

January 30th, 2015, 11:12 AM

Junie, the thing about IF, especially the way I do it, is you can eat any foods, as IF only describes WHEN you eat, not WHAT you eat. I don't consider IF a diet at all and I completely agree with you about diets (with the exception of swaying, but that's a very special circumstance). IF is a lifestyle for me, and the way I usually do it doesn't involve calorie counting or avoiding any foods. I spend much less time thinking about food when IFing.

2boys & tarasue - you both have every right to daughters and there is no reason you won't be fantastic moms to girls. The fact that you are concerned at all proves that. Bad mothers don't worry about their parenting skills. Plus, there are SO many mothers of both genders who don't deserve to have children at all (my own mother, for example) so obviously who gets children and which gender is not based on justice or fairness. As far as I can tell it's utterly random.

XXforhubby

January 30th, 2015, 12:01 PM

I get feelings like that too xx, I love my little family, why mess with that. Then I see a diaper commercial or a couple in church with a new baby and I'm back to square one:/

I get that. I'm totally good though. It is surreal still, but I am ok with JUST my boys [emoji4]! I only wanted boys, when I agreed to ttc DS1. I got my wish! I feel grateful for that. We will keep having well timed BDing and acupuncture, so I won't ever wonder what might have been down the line. But the yo-yo emotions of ttcing won't be there and that is a BIG relief for me!

Come on BFPs! Who's due to test soon?

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Junie

January 30th, 2015, 03:55 PM

Maiden- I know you are so mindful of your health and diet that I totally believe you when you say that for you IF isn't a diet.

I'm having a bit of spotting again today (TMI WARNING) and it is a bit mucusy and I'm wondering if it is CM mixed with old blood. It would fit on my timeline and the Dr. said everything looked great so maybe I will be ovulating soon...

tarasue

January 30th, 2015, 04:19 PM

Xx- I hope to hold out until Monday to test, Monday is 10dpo. I almost tested today & I know 7dpo is way early, I peed in the cup but ended up throwing it out w/o testing.

XXforhubby

January 30th, 2015, 04:33 PM

I am having a HARD time exercising! Yesterday and today I am SO exhausted. I took a 1.5 hour nap yesterday, and I am going to have to again today! I don't really want to take two days off so I'll set my alarm to workout after a 20min nap.

Looking back at my chart. I am 6DPO and Oed on the 24th. I got my second estrogen surge a little earlier than I usually do. I am a day behind you Tarasue! I won't test at all until the 8th at 15DPO though. I am sick of getting a BFN, and I do t want to know in case of a chemical. I would rather stay ignorant and think AF is just being cruel and usually heavy.

FX for you Tarasue! I am sure you caught the egg and will get your girl! By the way, I love your avatar! You are SO beautiful, and your son is HANDSOME!!!

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maidentomother

January 30th, 2015, 04:48 PM

Junie, thank you, and I'm so glad you understand. Bc I totally hate diets and think they are almost always silly fads! That mucous sounds VERY promising.

tarasue, I completely agree with XX, you and your son are both gorgeous. You both look like models. Good avatar choice :)

XX, guess what...both yesterday and today I have been strangely exhausted, for no apparent reason as I've been getting plenty of sleep and it's not like I do anything tiring. I fell asleep around 7pm and slept for about 4 hours last night, and I've been fighting fatigue since 8pm tonight. I wonder what is up with us? I HATE feeling tired, too. My meds are sedating but I haven't been taking as much as usual so I'm stumped.

tarasue

January 30th, 2015, 06:49 PM

Thank you XX & Maiden! That picture was taken in November after finding out we were pregnant again, we had a couple pictures taken that were supposed to be new baby announcements in our Christmas cards...... that never happened, but we did end up with some other good shots. You girls are too kind, I think model is a bit of a stretch, but it made me feel warm and fuzzy inside, thank you!

I have noticed the days I ovulate and the week or so after ovulation I am exhausted and need to take naps. I just woke up from an hour and a half one:sleeping:

XX- I understand the ignorant is bliss approach. Honestly, I didn't do the test because I really wanted to have a drink tonight and if by some wacked out chance it came up positive, I wouldn't. Maybe a bad reason, but it is what it is.

I hate to symptom spot.... but... full-achy bbs, pinching sensation in lower abdominal area, tired, vivid weird dreams, sensitive teeth?(had this before with my last pregnancy), super dry mouth & my diet coke made me almost throw up this afternoon(i drink diet pepsi, so maybe it was just that I had a diet coke instead!)

XXforhubby

January 31st, 2015, 12:02 AM

Tarasue- things sound promising for you!! FX and [emoji120] you get your girly BFP [emoji179]!!

Maiden- If it wasn't for the fact I am two years older than you, I would swear we were separated at birth! We have so much in common, it is so funny and reassuring!

AFM- I was able to get my exercise in! I feel good about that! The only strange symptom for me is the fatigue. I never have that. I think since I have reduced cals, only BF DS2 once a day now, and switched up my exercise routine, this has caused my fatigue. I am over it though already! Ugh!

FX we see more BFPs!!!

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tarasue

January 31st, 2015, 10:31 AM

Xx- I know if I don't exercise I have a hard time sleeping at night. And my husband, when ever he starts up a new exercise program or starts jogging he is exhausted all the time. I think once your body adjusts to the new caloric burn your exhaustion should subside. That is unless you end up pregnant, and then you'll be exhausted for a new set of reasons:)

maidentomother

January 31st, 2015, 01:29 PM

tarasue, I agree with XX, your symptoms sound very promising. And I wasn't exaggerating, I don't believe in false compliments. Obviously the pic isn't a close up, but from what I can see you are both very good looking. You have such lovely olive skin!

Alas, as I have not Oed yet, my exhaustion is not from that. I think it must be due to my SAD. It is always worst late Jan through early Mar, but I've really been struggling since Dec since moving to Germany, bc the 'house' I live in is very dark and depressing, plus it is overcast here from Nov through Mar. Though honestly, wherever I go I bring/cause rain. I have broken several droughts just by moving to a place (and I've moved A LOT).

XX, you know I feel the same! I'd love to see your natal chart bc I wonder if we have much in common astrologically.good for you for exercising, that should help perk you up. I always feel more energetic when exercising regularly. I bet you are going through hormonal changes, too, what with dropping feeds lately and even recovering still from your high FSH.

I have been eating a bit more on fasting days out of caution. I dont think my CBFM is working right (it hasn't been the past 2 cycles, I think I confused it by not using it exactly as directed) and I don't think my CBAD is working either bc of the false Peak from the smeared tester. I really think the last two days should be Highs and today as well but both monitors still read Low. My cheap OPKs have been almost positive yesterday and today. My cervix is High and Soft (and my cervix is my most reliable predictor of O) and I have EWCM. I think I will O tomorrow or the day after. I was too tired to attempt last night but I must tonight or tomorrow am!

essnce629

February 2nd, 2015, 04:47 AM

Hey girls! Sorry I posted the IF blog post and then disappeared! I was just worried that the fasting could be affecting things negatively as many of us have been TTC for 6+ cycles now and may need all the help we can get!

DS2 and I have been battling pink eye for the past few days! He's all fine now and is going back to school tomorrow, but I still have a pink ring above my iris! WTH!? We've both been on drops since Friday. So I can't wear my contacts and I hate wearing my glasses out of the house. No fun!

Anyone testing soon?