August Thread for TTC Blue - Chit Chat!

[daisyfay311]

Congratulations Jane, that's great!

And Lola, I am really happy for you that ex-dh is getting another girl. I just hope he is able to appreciate all of his daughters and be a good father to them. And I hope his new wife is excited about the baby. But that is definitely poetic justice for him to have all daughters!

[WashingtonPromise]

Yeah, Jane!!!! :bowdown:

Lola : You should be our new TTC boy cheer leader !!! YOU CAN DO IT!!! WIN, WIN, WIN!!! :cheerteam: :cheer:
Oh, and congrats on your ex having a girl. My ex SIL thought I was having a girl with #2 and she was having a boy, but it was the other way around :)

[LolaInLove]

I am sure the new wife is dealing with the same crap I did to some extent. He always made me feel like I let him down by having girls, even though it was not up to me clearly. I am sure she is excited though. She avoids me like the plague and is not a very friendly person so my daughters tell me (and other girls I know in our community that know her). Anyway, it is just a small little bit of happiness for me, even though I wish them no ill will. I just couldn't handle them getting a boy and me not getting a boy or ANYTHING at this point. Some of you divorced girls will understand, but I honestly deal with sometimes wanting him to suffer since he tortured me so much, but I really could care less about him and his wife and baby. So, just a tiny bit of smiling on my part, not to be evil or anything. :giggle:

[LolaInLove]

Lola : You should be our new TTC boy cheer leader !!! YOU CAN DO IT!!! WIN, WIN, WIN!!! :cheerteam: :cheer:
Oh, and congrats on your ex having a girl. My ex SIL thought I was having a girl with #2 and she was having a boy, but it was the other way around :)

Aw thanks, I just love the encouragement everyone offers on this site and hope I can help people feel better like they do for me!

[Flava]

lola- thanks, thanks yeah maybe I can have a boy if some miracle happens lol I better go drink on this a nice gelatin shot:rofl:

Your ex is just so dumb . He is rich so they can go high tech and get a boy.
Anyway I really hope you get that boy so his head can explode. lol

[Flava]

Ok I have a Q ???
I just checked my pH and it was over 6.5 Still have some spotting from AF so it's like a mix. Same thing was last month it was over 6.4.
Now the highest I ever got around O was 6.4 with EWCM.
So I was just thinking could this be because my egg had a nice high pH or it's just silly thoughts? (more like a wish lol)

[begonia]

JANE!!!! :cheerteam: Congrats love! So happy for you; here's hoping you have a very healthy 9 months and FX for :ttcboy:

Lola, LOL, I am so happy for you, too! It's a funny thing to be happy about but I totally am glad he's got girl #3 on the way. I hope he treats her well though; sucks to be the girl when your dad wanted a boy. Anyhow, I really REALLY hope you and DH get your son so that your ex will be eaten up with envy! FX for a BFP tomorrow or soon!

Flava! Wow what a great birth story lady! Super you! That pH is great; esp since you aren't even testing EWCM. Can't wait to see what that EWCM tests for you this month! I hope you do try in October. Did I tell you my FIL (who I adore and we will name a boy after if we are so lucky) has 4 older sisters? Totally could be you (and you, TTC5!) :fingers: But I am with Lola on this, you HAVE TO BELIEVE this can happen. Get down in the dumps after the BFP if you must, but from now until then, you MUST be positive. I know your experience makes that hard, but really, it will do you so much good to believe with all you possibly can that you will be holding your son next year.

Speaking of pH I totally went all OWT and took my urine pH with FMU this am :rofl: I was cleaning out my bathroom cab last night and found my phion strips from when I used to try to test CM. I gave up on CM but did try to monitor my urine while swaying bc pre-sway I was super acidic (5.0) and during the sway was optimal with a 6.5/7.0 usually. Anyhow I was shocked to see it come up an 8! It was never that high when I was swaying. And my diet has been super acidic because all I've wanted to eat has been fried food and soda :oops: So I'm totally, obviously having a boy now :rofl: Between that and the needle test there is no way this is a girl :wink: I crack myself up.

The weird thing is the past 2 days I've been totally great with the idea of another little girl! I hope that continues. My hormones are in a happy place. How to keep them there?!? I would love love love to have no GD.

Anyhow ... WP when will you test again?!?! Still going with the good'ol no-af test?

Daisy how are you? Aren't you close to O again?

[WashingtonPromise]

I had to run out to the store, so I got a pack of Answer tests.....BFN, again. There is no faint, no nothing, just one lone line. I don't know what to do. I checked my chart from last month and I had a 28 day cycle. Now I am on day 33. I know I Oed a little later, but this crap is really starting to tick me off!!!! I think at this point, I may be just as happy to see AF. We are only going to TTC for July and August....my August cycle is being ate up my this crazy one.

Sorry guys, I am just in a crappy place right now. I guess it is the fact of not knowing what is going on. Should I still be on the diet? Supp?

Our cow is pregnant....I guess I should be happy for her.

[begonia]

My flipping computer ate my reply!!!

WP I am sorry about the BFN and super sorry about the crazy cycle. I would keep at the diet but what supps have you been taking? Did you start anything that could have impacted your cycle?

And when you said only TTC July and August do you mean you will stop altogether then or just wait until later this fall/winter to try again?

Congrats on the cow ... did you have her POAS too?!?! Seriously though... I have no idea how you even know a cow is pregnant!

[Princess of Pink]

Huge congrats Jane!!! Super excited for you!!!

[Flava]

begonia- like I said same thing was last month with the pH so don't know what to think of it. Anyway sure Im trying to think positive here but it's so damn hard!:hair:
But no worry for you with that urine pH it's a boy for sure!:bluecheer::wink:

[Flava]

WP- sorry for bfn how late was that O??
Oh and congrats to the cow!:celebrate: Hope it's a boy:rofl:

[begonia]

Oh and congrats to the cow!:celebrate: Hope it's a boy:rofl:
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Flava I think 6.4 is a great pH for ttc boy, Atomic said hers never was very high and I would bet many boy moms don't have sky high pH either. I quit testing my CM a long time ago because even after months on the diet (back when I did more IG, less TW) I never saw mine budge past 5.5. So I decided not to worry about it. I'm not convinced on the pH thing though so for me it was an easy call. But I know you're trying to do everything you can so understand why you're tracking it!

I know I'd have a hard time being positive after all you did to get DD4 so I get it, but just so you know we'll all keep reminding you to be positive until you just think it is impossible for you to have anything other than a boy :happy:

[WashingtonPromise]

Flava: NO, NO!!! We need girl cows :) Boy babies :) I Oed on CD18, so I am 15dpo.

Begonia: We had one of our children in July and it was just to hot being that big pregoo and I had a hard time canning and storing up.

I have been scouring the internet for answers to "why am I late with a - test?" and only found 3 things.....

1) Low thyroid....but I don't have any of those symptoms, except the off cycle.

2) Ectopic preg......only have the missed period symptom.

3) Preggo and just not showing up for some reason. (There are a lot of these women out there....even the ones that track their cycles)

So, I guess if I still don't have AF in a week I will call my midwife and see what's going on.

[WashingtonPromise]

Oh and Begonia, no POAS for the cows. I am sure vets do it for the right price, though. Her udder is filling with milk and we know when she was bred. They have cycles every month, too. She should be due next month or so. They are preg 9 months, too.

Off to pout, I am sure the kids think I am sick or something.

[daisyfay311]

Daisy how are you? Aren't you close to O again?

Dang begonia you are good, lol! I am on CD12 and usually I O around CD14 but supps (I think it's the epo) delay me till around CD17 or 18. So I'm hoping this weekend. Just watching my cm for that big burst on O-3 and think I will dtd that night and then either the night of O-1 or morning of O if it does hit the weekend. I've been busy with school and trying not to think about it. I think a big part of my problem last month was stress, I literally almost made myself sick with stress over it.

I can't believe how far along you are! So hope it's a blue bundle for you.

WP, sorry but that is hysterical about the cow!! Especially being happy for her! LOL!

[begonia]

So interesting about the cows!

Don't give up hope WP; I'm just going to keep my FX you're going to get a late BFP. Are you just going to wait it out?

[begonia]

Daisy I hope this month is it for you! I think if you were that stressed last month it can definitely have an impact on your ability to get pregnant so here's hoping a more easygoing attitude works in your favor. It is awesome that you have that CM burst to indicate O! I think either way is great, 0-3 and 0-1 or 0-2 and 0. Atomic has said in the past to BD on your peak CM day even if it isn't O day, since the CM is so great for the boy swimmers.

Thanks for the blue wishes! I can't believe how far along I am either, LOL! It really does go so fast. I want it to slow down b/c the day I'm 12 weeks is also the day DD1 starts kindy, and I want to keep her home with me forever right now :sad: I'll send DD2 tomorrow though. That child is an animal, LOL!

[Flava]

begonia you are always so nice to me:awe:
Right it's hard to think I can have a boy after the damn msu .I just wish I never did it that way. But ok now i do the diet different so yeah maybe it will give me a boy.

[Flava]

Oh WP so no boy for the cow ! sorry ok i so hope it's a girl!!

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[jane]

Yeah, Jane!!!! :bowdown:

Lola : You should be our new TTC boy cheer leader !!! YOU CAN DO IT!!! WIN, WIN, WIN!!! :cheerteam: :cheer:
Oh, and congrats on your ex having a girl. My ex SIL thought I was having a girl with #2 and she was having a boy, but it was the other way around :)ha! ive been looking for a reason to use this picture!

[begonia]

Flava after all you've been through with swaying I really, really want to see you get your boy. I will cheer you on all the way lady!

Jane keep us posted on your pregnancy! FX you manage to avoid nausea and any other discomforts!

[Kris217]

I'm pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Took a clearblue digital as af hadn't come! Wow,I'm shaking,I'm soooooo happy,thanks for all the help and encouragement,hope it goes ok now,will post this on 2ww too.:-)

Yay, congrats to you Jane! Woohoo!!!

[b3blue]

begonia- Yes hypnobabies rocks! and you can find it on mom boards used for super cheap or ebay. I really wanted to do it on my own. I felt so defeated after my first birth and something in me just wanted to prove to myself that I was powerful beyond measure. Bradley just didn't appeal to me as it was so dependent on my hubby and that's not his personality nor mine to have someone all over me rubbing and such. When I'm sick I tend to just go into myself and this fits me to a T. However, DH did read the scripts to me a few times and there's a part where I learn that when he touches me, I instantly become more relaxed. Well we had just hung around the house for the day and it wasn't until I was in transition, and I believe push 3 where I got a little breathy and he just touched me. I felt so calm it was incredible and I just pushed her on out. She had her hand by her face too.

Jane- Congratulations!!

Flava- I'm glad your vbac went well! I love birth stories too. We'll be ttc at the same time so here's hoping for bfps for us both! I tested my ewcm and I think it's in the 6 range too. This paper is so hard to read but I'm guessing that's good enough and adding in preseed or a BSF will suffice for when we try.

Lola- That's awesome your ex-DH is having a girl teehee. Karma karma... Good on you for not POAS! Come on BFP!

WP- My goodness the cow LOL. Oh sweetie I'm ss to read about the wonky cycle but I did not expect at all to hear about the cow. Is it sad that I want to be pregnant in summer because maternity fashions are far better that time of year LOL.

AFM: I'm finally O'ing today so we can move on to the next cycle! I've been kinda bad with the diet the past couple of days as I was visiting my parents and didn't eat nearly enough. But I'm back on track and went to workout for the first time tonight. It was great. We'll see how much my body hates me in the morning hehe.

[4ofakind]

Hope you don't mind if I jump in and join the chatting. I have been making an effort with the boy diet for the past 4 weeks and just added in some supplements the past week. Not sure of when I will be TTC as DH isn't fully on board. He says that he is willing to do it for me but I am not ready to move forward until he is 100% happy with the idea so I thought I would make the diet changes to be ready for whenever that may be.

Looking forward to getting to know you all better.

[b3blue]

I need to stop reading because just when I think I've got it figured out I read something that's completely different. So ok, in a nutshell, for a boy doing the High Everything diet, I need to just eat like crazy? Anything and everything although healthily ..lift weights to gain some muscle and throw in a supp or 4 lol to boost ewcm. BD whenever the heck we want and hope for the best?!!? I just read pages and pages about high salt/high potassium negating one another and eating cereal (ie milk!) is good for a boy sway so I'm just going to stop nit picking and just eat. As clearly since I'm underweight I don't eat enough and I live on soda so my blood sugar is always low since I'm just drinking rather than eating.

[Flava]

I need to stop reading because just when I think I've got it figured out I read something that's completely different. So ok, in a nutshell, for a boy doing the High Everything diet, I need to just eat like crazy? Anything and everything although healthily ..lift weights to gain some muscle and throw in a supp or 4 lol to boost ewcm. BD whenever the heck we want and hope for the best?!!? I just read pages and pages about high salt/high potassium negating one another and eating cereal (ie milk!) is good for a boy sway so I'm just going to stop nit picking and just eat. As clearly since I'm underweight I don't eat enough and I live on soda so my blood sugar is always low since I'm just drinking rather than eating.

Exactly! I have no idea anymore what is "the diet" we suppose to eat??? When I joined this site there was more or less a diet plan but now it's like eat everything and a lot and bummm you get your boy. Well I just don't think so.
Im so confused really and so tired of this I waked up today thinking I don't want to do this anymore. I don't think I want another baby...I shouldn't have started this so early maybe because Im just so tired of it all. The eat all the time diet , the sups, all this new fat on me, just everything.
And sorry but I don't think that just because I try to believe I can have a boy I really going to have one.
I was so sure DD3 is a boy and she is not so it did not worked for me.
Sorry really sick of all this had to write it down.

[Flava]

Oh 4ofakind welcome! Hope your DH will be on board soon.

[WashingtonPromise]

AF came this morning!!!! I know, I know, I shouldn't be excited, but this cycle has been so crazy that something is better than nothing at this point. (Dh better take back all those "you look pregnant" comments). I am so ready to start up TTCing this cycle.

Do you guys have any ideas on what would make my LP longer ?

I am going to add Vit D this month I think, since we drink raw milk with no additives. What do you guys think?

Flava: What supp are you taking? Thanks for the best withes on the cows. If the calf is a boy he will go to freezer camp, if it is a girl, she will join the herd for a future milker :)

Begonia: Of course I am happy for her....when she has her calf I get fresh cow's milk again. Right now, we only have goat's milk.


Thanks ladies for helping out this cycle....what a mess. I have NEVER had one longer than 29 days.

[b3blue]

You probably O'd later WP? Are you charting? LP is pretty constant.

Flava- Huge hugs mama. I just know that I feel I need to do *something* to help get a boy. But I can't feel comfortable doing that without some clear direction. I think I'm just going to go with doing everything opposite to what got me two girls and hope for best.

Welcome 4ofakind!

[begonia]

Thanks for the info B3! Re: the diet confusion the focus (from Atomic's view) is not on mineral content, it is more on blood sugar, nutrient intake, and overall calorie consumption. Have you read the Oxford study? I think this approach is based on that + some Trivers Willard hypoth. In general, for ttc boy, eat often so as not to let blood sugar go on a rollercoaster, and always eat your protein and carbs together. Choose fruits and veg high in nutrients, eat loads of protein, good fats (like nuts and avocado) and full fat dairy. Aim for 2200+ calories a day. There is some consideration to a testosterone component which is where lifting weights comes in, along with some of the foods that help in testosterone production which are also those high in cholesterol, like eggs with yolks. That's pretty much it. But it is VERY different than IG. I didn't worry about minerals in general but did eat fairly high salt (because I love salt and have always had high salt, actually) and definitely increased my potassium via v8 drinks. Hope that helps some!

WP b6 is supposed to help with the LP! What is your length currently? Glad you got AF; I know being trapped in a wonky cycle is no fun at all.

Welcome 4ofakind!! My DH was on board for #3 but not for swaying. Didn't bother him that I did some things but his perspective was if God wants us to have girl #3 she'll show up regardless, and honestly there wasn't much I think he needed to change anyway. I wasn't going to have him chugging baking soda or anything like that. Hope yours comes around and is supportive though!

Hugs Flava. And I will just be totally honest and say that if you think you'll have some serious GD and regrets IF you get girl #5, then maybe this isn't something you should do, because even a great sway is just that ... a sway, not a guarantee, and you of all people know that already. It SUCKS that you have already tried so hard and still gotten a girl, it absolutely sucks and I hate it for you, and I see where you feel like there's nothing else you can do. Maybe stop hanging out here for a week (not because I don't want you here, I love having you here and esp back on this thread!!!) and see if the urge to have a boy (and urge to TTC) is as strong when you aren't hanging around a bunch of women who are very, very focused on that. Take the time to go back to focusing on what you have (your lovely girls) and not what you don't (the boy) and see if there really is part of you that wants to try again, you know? Maybe you find that you really do, or maybe you find that you don't... or maybe you're still undecided, who knows?!? But I think being here can definitely "sway" you into thinking this is something you should do; I'm quite sure that is why I wanted to try in June rather than wait til October, bc seeing everyone else trying got me all excited. There is an unintended element of peer pressure in boards like this! We're all rooting for you but really, this is YOUR life and YOUR decision and the baby would be all yours to deal with. HUGS. You're in a tough spot.

Lola did you test this am?

[WashingtonPromise]

Flava: I am so sorry you are getting tired of the whole diet thing before you start TTCing. I am getting a little confused on the whole "diet" thing too. I think I am going to up my potassium, salt, and protein. Still trying to figure things out too. Where's Begonia....she always has a way of making us feel better. :bighug:

b3: I am going to look into the hypnobabies after I get my BFP....I don't need anything else to get all wrapped up in. I do like Hubby rubbing my back, though. And he would be like a lost puppy if I didn't let him do something. :)

I think with all the symptoms I had (which I don't normally get in my 2ww), that I probably did have an egg implant and not make it....for whatever reason. Yesterday afternooon, all the sudden I wasn't starving anymore and I felt better....then AF. Who knows, just a theory. Now I have to go buy more TTCing food.

I hope this is my month....
:bluecheer: :pray: :noaf: :fingers:

[WashingtonPromise]

Never mind Begonia posted at the same time as me.

LOLA?

I normally have a 14 day LP, but had 15-16 this cycle

Is B6 good for TTC a boy? I have been thinking about adding some B vitamins...maybe b12? Not sure, I need to find time to research it.

[LolaInLove]

WP, glad AF came! I would definitely take the vitamin D, even if you get a good bit of sun daily. Um, I think I know what this is, but freezer camp?

Begonia, remember Wantalittleman? Well, we were all chatting about phs while pg in our FB group, and she always had a high one when pg with Finn. So hopefully that is good news for you!

Welcome 4ofaKind!

B3, here's the thing with swaying (and I've been on these sites for over a year now....so just relaying my perspective)- no one really knows what works. Diet has been proven to have some effect on gender, and that is really the only thing that is proven. But there are lots of theories about high sperm count, more ewcm, all that stuff, and it seems like a combo of all of those things has led to a lot of boys, although there have been many opposites. On the old "guru" site, IG, there was a strict diet and a strict 7 factors you had to do to be considered swaying. You weren't supposed to post your sway and say you really swayed unless you did all 7 factors. But, many women had opposites even with doing it 1000%, and the site just kind of broke down, and there were never any really concrete reasons why you had to do this or that....I think people felt like they didn't know why there were to do this. The studies to support that just weren't valid enough. So, this site came about, and a lot of actual scientific theory and studies are shown here (see that forum!) and this site is more about you deciding what you are capable of and want to do. So, all that being said, the best thing to do, in my opinion, is the high everything diet, make sure you have lots of ewcm, and probably try to not dtd like 3 times a day so your DH's count is not diminished. I wouldn't say to bd like crazy, but every other day is not a bad idea. I did it two days in a row myself, but I am not convinced that you need to have your DH abstain from releasing for 4 days and then have a one shot deal right at O. There have been oodles of boys conceived bding every day through O. Anyway, you just have to evaluate what you can and want to do and go for it. Did you read the "Kitchen Sink" thread? Kind of explains that better. It is confusing, especially when it's not all laid out for you, like a step by step, but that didn't seem to work for people....especially because swaying ISN'T a step by step kind of thing because our bodies and lives are so different. What works wonders for one might do nothing for another. KWIM? I hope that very long explanation helped. I would just spend a few days reading the heck out of this site, all of the sticky posts by Atomic Sagebrush for sure.

As for me, I poas this morning at 12dpo, and a stark ass white bfn. I think I'm out. My boobs don't show any sign of being pregnant, not like they did twice earlier this year. Even when I had the first m/c, they got really sore by 12dpo. So, onward to next month. I really don't understand WHY this didn't work, I mean, I know I'm ovulating (obviously with the Clomid), we dtd RIGHT on O, the same pattern as the last months when I got pg actually, didn't use the ew or anything obstructive. I just don't get it. But I'm just sulking right now, hopefully I'll snap out of it soon. AF should be here Friday.

[LolaInLove]

Never mind Begonia posted at the same time as me.

LOLA?

I normally have a 14 day LP, but had 15-16 this cycle

Is B6 good for TTC a boy? I have been thinking about adding some B vitamins...maybe b12? Not sure, I need to find time to research it.

Hey WP- B6 will make your LP even longer! Maybe do a b12 complex. I have no idea why your LP would have lengthened. It's not a bad thing, necessarily. I would be worried if it were the other way around. What supps are you taking?

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, excellent explanation of the IG-GD differences!!!!!

[LolaInLove]

I think with all the symptoms I had (which I don't normally get in my 2ww), that I probably did have an egg implant and not make it....for whatever reason. Yesterday afternooon, all the sudden I wasn't starving anymore and I felt better....then AF. Who knows, just a theory.



You may be VERY right, when you know your body as well as you seem to (I like to think I'm the same way), your intuition is likely right on. I feel like may have had the same thing, because I had this textbook implant dip on day 7, which was weird, but I guess nothing made it. Or maybe not, who knows is right!!!!

We are gonna get knocked up later this month, WP- you and me, sister!!!!! (and of course anyone else here who is attempting, LOL!!!)

[begonia]

Awww, WP that was sweet, I'm glad I can sometimes make you feel better :kiss: It is interesting that your LP lengthened as usually that isn't the case; I wouldn't worry too much, shorter is more of a concern. See how it goes this cycle. But I'm with Lola, I think d3 and a b-complex are great additions. My prenatal I took while swaying had folic, of course, but also b6, b12, and d3. I LOL about freezer camp! FX it's a girl!

And FWIW I think it is entirely possible that you might have had an egg implant but not make it; TTC5 had a similar experience. And with women like yourselves who have been through this TTC/pregnancy process as much as you have, you know what's up. FX next cycle is a sticky healthy bean for you!

I don't know if my post to Flava will make her feel better today ... Flava I really hope that didn't come across as super harsh. :hugs: I just know I've seen you mention more than once you're not sure if this is what you want to do and I also know being on here made me personally more into the idea of having one more, that's for sure. Maybe that isn't the case for you though.

Boo on the BFN Lola. BOOOO. But the great thing about the 2WW is once it is over time to try is around the corner ... this month is going to be IT! Sticky blue beans for you and WP both! I so badly want you to have a boy now to really burn the ex ... I'm not normally a vindictive person but really, he just sounds rotten.

And I didn't know WLM named her son Finn! That is on our list! I don't think we'll use it, my bet is we will use Patrick. Since according to my urine I'm having a boy I won't even bother with girls names :wink:

Have to go to the dentist with DD1 today; FX for no cavities ... we don't have dental insurance and those things are $200 a pop :mad:

[3Pink1Blue]

B3blue- with my first I was at the 20 wk u/s saw her move and was like "oh that's what that is" lol w/2 I got my first kick on mothers day which was about 16 wks. Don't remember #3 though.

Lola- so excited your ex is having a girl, justice has prevailed lol Now fingers crossed my idiot bil is having one too! Sorry for the bfn hun, love your attitude though, on to next month!

Jane- WOOHOO!! Fx for a healthy, sticky and blue little bean!

Flava- I have an awesome midwife who doesn't like to intervene, she stepped in only to save me from a c-section. It would have gone down the same way no matter where I was.
Sorry your having such a hard time right now :hugs:

B-I feel the same way about pH, I did EVERYTHING to raise mine and it never got above 5.5 with bsf. All my months of swaying gave me a very zen/screw it approach to things I couldn't change lol I would like to formally thank you for for the image of a woman in a raincoat and goulashes holding up a cows tail hpt in hand :rofl: I hear ya on sending dd off to k, dd3 is my little buddy and I'm dreading sending her off even though it won't happen for a full year lol

Wp- yay for Af, almost any answer is better then limbo! Yay for fresh milk and I say go for it with the vit d!

4ofakind- welcome! Fabulous group of ladies here, fx Dh will be 100% soon!


Sorry to be so absent, dd3's birthday party is this weekend (actual birthday the 17) so I'm busily preparing. Can't believe she's almost 4.

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: I don't think you came across harch with Flava, your just concerned. Thanks for all the kind works, always. Is b12 complex good for swaying boy?

Lola: That's right, you and me girl...alll the way (and anyone else) :) I think you will feel better after AF comes and goes.

3pnb: Have a great birthday party !!!!!

I was a little down at first because 4 of the 6 children have birthdays in November (yes, we LOVE Feb), so we have a huge birthday party. And DS1 wants to share his April birthday with a sibling....so sorry buddy. My birthday is in May, so maybe I will have a birthday buddy.

Now I have to convince DH that I need to go back to the store for Vit d, B, coco water, lara bars,etc, etc, etc....oh and tests.

Oh, Oh supp.....

Folic Acid
Iron
Potassium
Fish Oil

What are you taking Lola?

[WashingtonPromise]

What are you guys taking for a prenatal? I am looking at Rainbow light, but they have a lot of Magnesium....any thoughts?

[LolaInLove]

I take a lot of stuff for egg health (I'm 35), but a few swaying things too. My general goal right now is to sway blue by creating a very healthy environment and intaking a bunch of nutrients each day.

PrenateDHA (prescription prenatal w DHA in it)
Royal Jelly capsule
Bee Pollen capsule
Vit D
Vit E
CoQ10
Multi-Antioxidant (this one is expensive, but has a blend of like 30 different things)
Flax Oil
Fish Oil
Potassium (only 50mg)
Zinc (30mg)
EPO
Folic 800mg + B12 tab
DHEA (75mg day, this one is big egg health supp)
Wheatgrass blend powder daily (wheat, alfalfa, barley grasses)

DH takes all the same minus the EPO and DHEA, and he takes L-Arg for spermies (which I don't take because it dries me up.)

I had ewcm this past month with the Clomid, which was quite unexpected, so I am thinking all of the supps and Clomid was a nice combo for me. I am not sure what to mix up this next month....I just feel like we did everything right on the money. I dtd the night before O and the next day also, an hour after I felt the pains, so I know there were bullets in the chamber, kwim? I did do a bsf an hour before each attempt, which I will likely drop. I don't know why I still do that. Old IG habits.

What do you girls think?

[3Pink1Blue]

Wp- see now I hate the birthday buddy thing lol I was born on my mothers birthday and I was made aware every year on the sacrifices she made to give me a nice birthday while no one did anything for her. When my dad did try to do things he could never do it "right" so he quite trying. My moms not a bad person she's just one of those "you better make it perfect without me telling you anything" kind of women. I'm kinda grateful for it though, taught me to ask for what I want instead of pouting when everyone didn't just magically know. Wow sorry big tangent there lol my oldest was born on my idiot bil's birthday as well. For us it's always been more of a pain then fun. I'm currently due 3 wks prior to dd1's birthday so I'm sure that opinion will change. Oh and I've been taking an Rx prenatal called prenatal plus, I don't really buy into the mineral theory.

Lola- I don't think you should change anything! Just because it didn't happen the first month doesn't mean there's a flaw in your plan keep it up darlin' you'll get your bfp!!

[Alexis2007]

I have a question ladies...about EPO. Should I be taking all of my 2,000mg at the same time or space it out 2x a day? I've been doing the 2x per day thing all along? Just wondering now. lol

Another thing, DH may have a hernia right now. Anyone know how that will affect ttc? I'm kinda bummed about it (kinda selfish I know, but.......) UGH!!! Hopefully he can get checked out today!

[begonia]

AAAAAAARGH! I typed out a big ol' post and my computer ate it. Stupid Mac.

Lola ITA with Jen, your plan looks perfect and I wouldn't be surprised if you get pg in the next 2 cycles if you keep at it. I remember this is also the best time of year for you work-wise to get pg so I hope it happens fast! Oh and I couldn't let go of the BSF either after all those IG months, LOL! But I didn't do much, only the 1x 1 hour before BD, and then not at all after.

Jen that is too bad about your mom and the birthday thing! I actually feel kind of bad for DD2 since sometimes (like this year) her bday is on Mother's Day. I'd rather it be all about her on her birthday. I hope DD3's bday party goes well and that she has a great day! 4 is such a precious age; it's my favorite. When I volunteer with kids I always pick the 4's.

WP I took Vitafusion gummy prenatals when TTC, they include DHA and were very easy to get down ... actually tasted like candy. Once I got pg I switched to the Rainbow Light and while they make me queasy I think they are more complete than the Vitafusion. I just wanted something that was a good multi-vit prenatal while TTC and those were cheap and didn't make me sick. They didn't have calcium or iron, but I had plenty of full fat dairy while swaying and loads of meat so I'm sure my iron was a-ok too.

I love the big ol' November bday bash, and how sweet is it that DS wants another April birthday! Super cute. My DD1 and DH (and our beloved dog) have November birthdays; DH and DD are just 4 days apart and DH's sometimes falls on Thanksgiving. I love that time of year because there is so much to celebrate!

[begonia]

Alexis I only took 1000 but split it up; my bottle had the rec'd dosage as 3000 taken 1000 3x a day, so I think you're probably fine taking it 2x a day 1000 each. Remember for best digestion and absorption to take it with a snack/meal that has healthy fats in it.

I have no clue about the hernia and TTC! I'm sorry! I hope he feels better soon though, that can't be comfortable.

[begonia]

B3B, how far in advance would I need to do the hypnobabies? Is it something I'd need to do starting now or can I put it off for another couple of months ... not that I procrastinate ;-)

[Alexis2007]

Well, DH just got out of the plant hospital (doc wasn't in today) but the symptoms he described to the nurse, she thinks it's a kidney stone. :(

[begonia]

B3B, how far in advance would I need to do the hypnobabies? Is it something I'd need to do starting now or can I put it off for another couple of months ... not that I procrastinate ;-)

Nevermind! Reading the reviews on Amazon I see it's a 6 week program. So perfect for me ... months to procrastinate, LOL. I really think I'm going to try this!

[LolaInLove]

Alexis, I would say for your DH to be sure to tell the doctor that you guys are ttc....I read that some hernia repairs can cause blockage problems. My DH had a testicular tortion (horrid, I know, right?) a long time ago from having to lift a particularly heavy ballerina for a good while before a certain production, but never had any surgery. (Which is why I never left him lift me, LOL.) I looked it up and was prepared to tell him that his balls were broken, but it appears that he can indeed impregnate me. Anyway, if your DH needs a repair, just make sure you go to an excellent surgeon!!! No snipping or knotting the supply cable!

And I only take the 1200mg EPO, once a day. I would try to divvie things up as much as possible, like you are doing. That is definitely best.

Girls, thanks for the reassuring words about my "plan." Begonia, you have a sick memory! You are right, April-June is the best time for me to have a baby, so I need to get pg in the next 2 cycles, maybe 3 if it fits in there and the baby is due in June sometime.

I am having one of those days where I oscillate between wanting to give it a couple more tries only and keep on going. I am SO SICK of being over my normal weight and not going to functions because I don't want to be around a bunch of partiers (the joy of working in the arts- we're all poor so we like to have a good time, LOL). I am ready to get back on my ADHD meds that keep me thin and stop eating so bloody much food and looking pregnant without actually being pregnant!!! (Don't get me wrong, I am neither a big partier nor have eating disorders! I guess my old lifestyle was more conducive to being thin with meds and diet, not to mention I like to drink wine quite a bit.) I would hate giving up, but I just feel like I am getting into crazy territory doing this for so long and literally becoming a fat sad person.

I think I'm going to go to the herb shop and get some maca and spirulina. I just read some good stuff about that. I just called to refill my freakin' clomid too, that was depressing.

Lastly, I am going to an event tonight where they will have vodka snowcones, and I believe I deserve one.

[begonia]

Well, DH just got out of the plant hospital (doc wasn't in today) but the symptoms he described to the nurse, she thinks it's a kidney stone. :(

Ooooo, those are super painful ... I'm so sorry!

[LolaInLove]

Well, DH just got out of the plant hospital (doc wasn't in today) but the symptoms he described to the nurse, she thinks it's a kidney stone. :(

Oh, didn't see this before I pressed send! That sucks, but is also kinda good on the ttc front! No surgery to mess with. My sister has kidney stones all the time, they are painful but she deals with it and passes them. I think she takes some pain meds during the process. I hope he is doing ok!

[begonia]

Vodka snowcones?!?!?! AMAZING. I will be having those at my 34th birthday party next June for sure. And then I'll pump and dump :-) Have one tonight and don't feel bad. I had wine many times during the months pre-TTC and I don't sweat it one bit. If I have a daughter that won't be why, IMO. Did all I was willing to do and that's what it comes down to for each of us, I think.

Lola I really will be surprised if it takes more than a couple of cycles. While they were m/c you've certainly gotten pg 2x recently, so things are working, and now they are working even better with all your anti-ox supps and the clomid. So chin up, this WILL HAPPEN! That said there's nothing wrong with having "one of those days" every now and then and I completely get the "ready to get back to thin" mentality. But hey, how lucky for you that it is one of those days on a night where you can get a vodka snowcone, because yes, you do deserve one. Or two :-)

[Alexis2007]

Thanks ladies! I just hope it doesn't mess with our ttc THIS cycle! lol I know that's selfish and DH hardly ever gets sick, but OMG what timing!!! Luckily I'm only CD8 today. But I am planning dtd every other day on even days, but oh well. It is what it is.

Good luck Lola! Have fun!

[WashingtonPromise]

Thanks for the info on the vitamins....I need to order some soon, where oh where is the money fairy?!?!

Lola: Girl, your body sounds like it is ready to be pg, again. Your plan sounds solid, and like everyone else said, you factory works....it's just time to produce that boy baby. Enjoy some snowcones while you can.

Alexis: Last year while I was 8 months preggo, DH had a kidney stone that was the size of his thumb nail and had to have surgery. But, he is prone to them and gets them every few years. It took him out of the BDing scene for less than a week. GL and let us know how he is doing. FX he passes it quick.

I made mini-meat loaves (totally boy friendly) and they are almost done. TTYL

[b3blue]

Nevermind! Reading the reviews on Amazon I see it's a 6 week program. So perfect for me ... months to procrastinate, LOL. I really think I'm going to try this!

Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! Yes 6 weeks is plenty of time! I started I think with 8 weeks so I could spend 2 weeks on each lesson and in case we got busy or something and I missed days. Dh would even listen to them with me to put himself into a deeper sleep. I hope you like it! Be warned that it will seem really silly. I actually LOL'd a few times listening to the woman. But it really does work. You may not have a zero pain labor, but you will certainly be very relaxed once your birthing time comes (see that....it's not labor..it's not negative..birthing time..nice and easy).

More replies coming..you gals rock seriously.

[b3blue]

Thanks for the info B3! Re: the diet confusion the focus (from Atomic's view) is not on mineral content, it is more on blood sugar, nutrient intake, and overall calorie consumption. Have you read the Oxford study? I think this approach is based on that + some Trivers Willard hypoth. In general, for ttc boy, eat often so as not to let blood sugar go on a rollercoaster, and always eat your protein and carbs together. Choose fruits and veg high in nutrients, eat loads of protein, good fats (like nuts and avocado) and full fat dairy. Aim for 2200+ calories a day. There is some consideration to a testosterone component which is where lifting weights comes in, along with some of the foods that help in testosterone production which are also those high in cholesterol, like eggs with yolks. That's pretty much it. But it is VERY different than IG. I didn't worry about minerals in general but did eat fairly high salt (because I love salt and have always had high salt, actually) and definitely increased my potassium via v8 drinks. Hope that helps some!



Thank thank you thank you. That's perfect!




B3, here's the thing with swaying (and I've been on these sites for over a year now....so just relaying my perspective)- no one really knows what works. Diet has been proven to have some effect on gender, and that is really the only thing that is proven. But there are lots of theories about high sperm count, more ewcm, all that stuff, and it seems like a combo of all of those things has led to a lot of boys, although there have been many opposites. On the old "guru" site, IG, there was a strict diet and a strict 7 factors you had to do to be considered swaying. You weren't supposed to post your sway and say you really swayed unless you did all 7 factors. But, many women had opposites even with doing it 1000%, and the site just kind of broke down, and there were never any really concrete reasons why you had to do this or that....I think people felt like they didn't know why there were to do this. The studies to support that just weren't valid enough. So, this site came about, and a lot of actual scientific theory and studies are shown here (see that forum!) and this site is more about you deciding what you are capable of and want to do. So, all that being said, the best thing to do, in my opinion, is the high everything diet, make sure you have lots of ewcm, and probably try to not dtd like 3 times a day so your DH's count is not diminished. I wouldn't say to bd like crazy, but every other day is not a bad idea. I did it two days in a row myself, but I am not convinced that you need to have your DH abstain from releasing for 4 days and then have a one shot deal right at O. There have been oodles of boys conceived bding every day through O. Anyway, you just have to evaluate what you can and want to do and go for it. Did you read the "Kitchen Sink" thread? Kind of explains that better. It is confusing, especially when it's not all laid out for you, like a step by step, but that didn't seem to work for people....especially because swaying ISN'T a step by step kind of thing because our bodies and lives are so different. What works wonders for one might do nothing for another. KWIM? I hope that very long explanation helped. I would just spend a few days reading the heck out of this site, all of the sticky posts by Atomic Sagebrush for sure.



Yes, it's reading all those threads that got me confused. I'd see what B was talking about then go read in the Science forum where Atomic says "well I really don't think that sways..." and so I'm just like wha?!? I just read some super long post with you explaining it lol. No disrespect at all, I was just so confused. I have to separate everyone's personal stance on it and just go with what I want to do. I think I just wanted someone to say you know, we really don't know that anything "works" or "sways". There's a few studies that sort of hint around that maybe possibly this that and the other is linked but like you say, our bodies are totally different and will do what they want. I guess though, I'll throw my hat into the ring as a case study. It's really going to make me healthier as living on coke and air is not going to cut it. I'm glad I found this site as IG just didn't have a good vibe for me. You all are just so so sweet!

Oh and no I haven't read all the studies, just the cliffs notes versions here. Low testosterone much? Way too lazy to do all of that LOL. I get into scientific gobbledy gook and I run for the hills.


What are you guys taking for a prenatal? I am looking at Rainbow light, but they have a lot of Magnesium....any thoughts?

I'm going to pick up VitaFusion I believe it's called. It doesn't have iron or calcium in it and it's a gummy vitamin. Iron pills always constipate me and I hate that anyway. I'll use Floradix when I'm actually pg to ward off anemia.


I take a lot of stuff for egg health (I'm 35), but a few swaying things too. My general goal right now is to sway blue by creating a very healthy environment and intaking a bunch of nutrients each day.

PrenateDHA (prescription prenatal w DHA in it)
Royal Jelly capsule
Bee Pollen capsule
Vit D
Vit E
CoQ10
Multi-Antioxidant (this one is expensive, but has a blend of like 30 different things)
Flax Oil
Fish Oil
Potassium (only 50mg)
Zinc (30mg)
EPO
Folic 800mg + B12 tab
DHEA (75mg day, this one is big egg health supp)
Wheatgrass blend powder daily (wheat, alfalfa, barley grasses)

DH takes all the same minus the EPO and DHEA, and he takes L-Arg for spermies (which I don't take because it dries me up.)

I had ewcm this past month with the Clomid, which was quite unexpected, so I am thinking all of the supps and Clomid was a nice combo for me. I am not sure what to mix up this next month....I just feel like we did everything right on the money. I dtd the night before O and the next day also, an hour after I felt the pains, so I know there were bullets in the chamber, kwim? I did do a bsf an hour before each attempt, which I will likely drop. I don't know why I still do that. Old IG habits.

What do you girls think?

Sounds awesome. I need to add in Vit D and Zinc methinks. So sorry about the BFN :(

[begonia]

I have to separate everyone's personal stance on it and just go with what I want to do. Exactly!!!! Yes, this is just what you have to do IMHO. The great thing about here is everyone supports that we all have our own individual thoughts on these things.


It's really going to make me healthier as living on coke and air is not going to cut it. This is pretty much my thoughts exactly. I read a bunch of the TW stuff and it made sense to me on a biological level that healthier people might produce more boys. Pre-swaying I ate a lot of calories (prob more than I did while swaying) but many of them were sugary or highly processed, washed down with diet coke, and I also ran about 60 miles a week. So for my sway I kicked down my cardio, added weights, and just tried to eat with a focus on fresh fruits, veg, and meat.

Also I took the Vitafusions while swaying and loved them. My current prenatal (Rainbows) is much more substantial but makes me queasy. I dread taking it so usually eat a big snack before bed and pop it then so it hits while I'm sleeping. Sometimes it works, sometimes I lay in bed queasy :mad:

[4ofakind]

Thank you for the warm welcome. This thread flows so quickly :)

All of you ladies have such a wealth of information and encouragement and it is fantastic. I don't have any questions yet but know to ask here first when I do.

[Princess of Pink]

Vodka snowcones sound so good right now!! I am exhausted from watching what I eat and remembering to take my body weight in supplements.

[Kris217]

Thank you for the warm welcome. This thread flows so quickly :)

All of you ladies have such a wealth of information and encouragement and it is fantastic. I don't have any questions yet but know to ask here first when I do.

Yes welcome :) the women on this site are awesome so yeah ask away as I'm sure they'll have all the answers :)

[ELP]

I think I'm going to go to the herb shop and get some maca and spirulina. I just read some good stuff about that. I just called to refill my freakin' clomid too, that was depressing.

Lastly, I am going to an event tonight where they will have vodka snowcones, and I believe I deserve one.Sorry it wasn't this month Lola, every day just seems to drag atm doesn't it:( I would kill for one of those snow cones!!! Have a few extra for us ok:agree And Ijust wanted to add to take it easy on the Maca, I had some dangerous levels of confusion when I used Maca but I did take practically full dose straight away, so start low ok:)

[LolaInLove]

Sorry it wasn't this month Lola, every day just seems to drag atm doesn't it:( I would kill for one of those snow cones!!! Have a few extra for us ok:agree And Ijust wanted to add to take it easy on the Maca, I had some dangerous levels of confusion when I used Maca but I did take practically full dose straight away, so start low ok:)

ELP, whatcha mean "dangerous levels of confusion"??????? I got a bottle of maca capsules, so I was just going to start Dh and I on the recommended daily amount. Did you do the powder? Should I just take the amount they say per day on the bottle?

[LolaInLove]

Thanks again for your support, ladies. I just had a crap day yesterday. DH and I had a talk and he said he wants to get a semen analysis after all, just to see if it's him. I told him what's the point since the only thing we could do if he has issues in the sack is to stuff him full of more vitamins and stuff. I asked him if he'd be disappointed if I gave up after a few more tries and he said yes, but he'd understand. But of course, I couldn't do that to him....he and I both want our own child, even though the girls are more his than their father's, but I just can't give up for him. So I won't. :cool:

And HELLO VODKA SNOWCONES....are the most brilliant fun summer beverage for adults ever. They got those big pump bottles and mixed vodka straight in with the flavoring and just pumped that juice on the ice. I did have 2, they were delish. Anyway, things to look forward to for NEXT summer after the babies are born, ay?

B3, you got the right gist of it all! There is no exact formula, and some people believe certain things work and others don't. So, you got it, read as much as you can deal with and ask away. Begonia and I have been doing/studying this a LONG time and I would venture to say we have the same philosophy on swaying, which is a pretty mellow one, although I think we both believe strongly in the diet. Did I get that right, B? So, take our advice for what it is and read other stuff and you will formulate your own sway plan that works for you.

WP, if you are worried about too much magnesium, I think there is a prenatal that doesn't have much cal/mag....I can't remember which one, though! Kris, for some reason I think you took that one? Or ELP? My personal opinion is that most prenatals don't have high levels of either cal or mag, just a good daily amount, and the ladies that believe in minerals and sway pink all take a cal/mag supp on top of that so they get WAY more than we do. Although, lots of ladies taking cal/mag supps back on IG had boys!!! (Which falls in line with more nutrients=boys.) I am not sure if I totally believe in minerals or not, but I figure it's worth a shot so I definitely up my sodium/potassium intake. I think it's fair to say with some of the surveys here about what boy moms ate, etc. that there are a few constants:

Breakfast
Lots of sodium
Lots of hearty and healthy foods
Ate a lot during the day
Late night snack

Anyway, all that being said, I think you should definitely take a prenatal, whichever kind you feel most comfortable with or can afford! My prescription one is only $8 per month for me, and it doesn't have the levels of cal/mag that are recommended to sway girl anyway, so I don't worry about it.

[begonia]

But of course, I couldn't do that to him....he and I both want our own child, even though the girls are more his than their father's, but I just can't give up for him. So I won't. :cool: Awww, I think this is just awesome. I love that. I'm keeping the faith that it will happen sooner rather than later.


Begonia and I have been doing/studying this a LONG time and I would venture to say we have the same philosophy on swaying, which is a pretty mellow one, although I think we both believe strongly in the diet. Did I get that right, B?
Totally! :agree: I'm really all about the diet, and about supps that are for good health in general ... like fish oil ... my dermatologist had me taking that anyway. EPO was also amazing at making my PMS cramps disappear... which oddly I never had cramps til swaying boy. I don't know if anyone else had that result with EPO but I loved it.

I am not sure if I totally believe in minerals or not, but I figure it's worth a shot so I definitely up my sodium/potassium intake.
I do think there is potentially some evidence not so much for the absence of calcium/magnesium in the diet of those who conceive boy, but more for the higher RATIO of K/Na to Ca/Mg if that makes sense. So while I didn't avoid Ca/Mg I did aim to have high K/Na.


I need to practice multi-quoting but for now I just insert my comments into other people's posts, LOL :bigsmile:

I am so excited about vodka snocone birthday party next summer! Sounds like they are easy enough to do if I rent a snocone machine. Maybe I'll get cotton candy and popcorn to and make it a fair-theme...

ELP I remember you saying that about Maca once before! Lola I think there is a thread on here but it probably buried. I'll go search for it and see what I can find.

WP mini-meatloaves sound delish! And perfect for boy-sway! You should totally pop some of those in the freezer for lunches for you.

So I noticed this am I'm getting close to 1000 posts :bigsmile: Don't be surprised if I start parsing out my posts to a sentence each :cool:

[begonia]

Kris how are you feeling these days? And did Sarah end up getting to use the same donor? That would be super cool for the babies!

[begonia]

Vodka snowcones sound so good right now!! I am exhausted from watching what I eat and remembering to take my body weight in supplements.

I know, right? Part of the reason I just started doing a prenatal was it saved me from taking DHA, b-vitamins, D3, etc. So I ended up just taking prenatals, fish oil, wheatgrass, and then EPO af-o. I need to go comment on your sway plan; I saw you posted it!

[begonia]

Lola here's the post where ELP expands on her Maca experience; 5th post in the thread:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3486-Helpful-Herbs-for-blue!!&highlight=maca

[LolaInLove]

Ooo, I will try to look that up, too! Thanks for the words of encouragement, B! ITA with your mineral beliefs, that is my goal as well.

The event I went to last night was an "adult carnival" theme (not porn-ish, you kwim). The local weekly/arts paper here has a "Best Of" for our city each year in a bunch of categories and the party was for the winners, and we win best dance company each year, so I had to go represent. Just for party ideas for ya, they had games like ring toss and stuff and were giving away weird prizes like vintage toys (I won a VERY old baby doll for the girls!), and they had gourmet hot dogs and a fun photo booth with crazy hats and glasses to wear in it if you wanted. Very fun!

[LolaInLove]

Lola here's the post where ELP expands on her Maca experience; 5th post in the thread:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3486-Helpful-Herbs-for-blue!!&highlight=maca

OK, wow! Thanks for finding that, B! I'm going to do some internet research about it now. I haven't opened the bottle yet, I thought I would wait until AF came just to be 100% sure I didn't waste $80 on supps for nothing.

[ELP]

Glad you found the thread, thanks B :agree: It was crazy, especially as I was in charge of the little ones, I felt like Rain Man at some points! After this happened I 'then' looked for possible side effects and found quite an interesting one, I'll see if I can find it:agree: But quickly, I did feel the benefits, I just took too much, too soon. I suppose its like the difference between a puff of a 'roll up';) and swallowing an ounce of the stuff, they're both herbal right!

[ELP]

http://www.highonhealth.org/what-nobody-tells-you-about-maca-root-powder-dangers-and-side-effects/ This was the one I found at the time. And whilst I'm thinking about it, it can and did cause me awful stomach problems to the point I stopped eating, had rapid weight loss, went for a scan for gall stones and instead they found baby 8 lol, and after that weight loss of course baby was going to be a girl!!

Meant to add, everyones experiences is in the comments at the bottom:agree:

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: I am starting to think an all purpose Prenatal will be in my future if it takes longer than August/Sept. I know when DH gets home he is going to say...."MORE PILLS". "You know we did get pregnant several times without those things". Is you Rainbow Light a "1 a day" pill? Capsule or compact pill?

Lola: Girl, you have everything a swaying woman could want at your house!!! Sounds like you have a very fun lifestyle. I ask hubby every year to take me to the Nutcracker Ballet.....we just never get around to it. Plus, with so my relatives and all, the $$$ goes quick around that time of the year.

Alexis: Any word on Hubby?

So today I bought ....

Vit D
B complex
Vit E

I was looking for Royal Jelly, but couldn't find it. Any of you ladies that take it, how long does it take to work?

Oh, and I was looking into the Wondfo tests....Any experiences?

I think I may have figured out why my cycle was soooo much longer, I had been grinking 2-3 large glasses of green tea every day and gelatin. Do you guys think that would have any effect?

[begonia]

Yes! Green tea can impact your cycle WP. Gelatin as well due to the extra testosterone. My Rainbows are in a compact pill. I hate taking them. Last time they didn't make me queasy but maybe the formula is different now; once I finish this bottle I might get a different one. I didn't take the RJ but I know others have had it work in as little as one cycle, though I've read it can take up to 3 before you see a big difference. So does your DH really want another boy or is it more you? With us it is surely more me; DH will be over the moon if we have a son but he has never had so much as a minute of disappointment over the girls.

Happy to help Lola! Glad ELP could serve as a Maca guinea pig:wink: For real though ELP that sounds like it was quite scary; did the symptoms stop as soon as you quit or did they just gradually fade? It does sound like in small doses it could be good stuff though.

[LolaInLove]

Well, I just did a bit of research on the maca, and I don't think I want to take it with the Clomid. However, it is supposed to be excellent for DH in boosting all aspects of sperm, and libido also (who can argue with that). I think I'm going to add it to his trough, LOL.

On the supp humor tip, you should see our set up. We've both got those multi-pill daily organizers for morning and night, and he laughs at me on Sundays when I pull this giant heavy bag of pill bottles out of the pantry and start playing pharmacist with my list and all. I am very much looking forward to the day when I just take one big fat prenatal!

[begonia]

On the supp humor tip, you should see our set up. We've both got those multi-pill daily organizers for morning and night, and he laughs at me on Sundays when I pull this giant heavy bag of pill bottles out of the pantry and start playing pharmacist with my list and all. I am very much looking forward to the day when I just take one big fat prenatal!

That is a nice mental image, LOL! Good to know about the maca for the DH's though. Could be a great add to their supps. I was super lucky that DH was already taking fish oil, vit D, and a zinc + b-complex. He wasn't down with swaying but he wasn't taking any of that before we got pg with the girls so I'm hoping it gave him a boost.

[LolaInLove]

Begonia: I am starting to think an all purpose Prenatal will be in my future if it takes longer than August/Sept. I know when DH gets home he is going to say...."MORE PILLS". "You know we did get pregnant several times without those things". Is you Rainbow Light a "1 a day" pill? Capsule or compact pill?

Lola: Girl, you have everything a swaying woman could want at your house!!! Sounds like you have a very fun lifestyle. I ask hubby every year to take me to the Nutcracker Ballet.....we just never get around to it. Plus, with so my relatives and all, the $$$ goes quick around that time of the year.

Alexis: Any word on Hubby?

So today I bought ....

Vit D
B complex
Vit E

I was looking for Royal Jelly, but couldn't find it. Any of you ladies that take it, how long does it take to work?

Oh, and I was looking into the Wondfo tests....Any experiences?

I think I may have figured out why my cycle was soooo much longer, I had been grinking 2-3 large glasses of green tea every day and gelatin. Do you guys think that would have any effect?

Yea, green tea can make it longer, I think so. I only have one cup a day, try cutting back a bit? But, your nice long LP is not a bad thing!

I take RJ capsules, I just got them at the health food store. I don't know how long they take to work, but they are supposed to be a great boy supp b/c they are a superfood. I don't think they mess with your cycle, no harm in taking them. Lots of the successful swayers have taken them. They don't carry those at like Walgreens, you have to go to a specialty vitamin/herb store or health food store with a good vitamin section. I bet Vitamin Shoppe has them, though, and many other places you could order online. Speaking of ordering online, I just got Wondo tests on Amazon, like 40 opks and 10 hpts for only $9!!! One of my gfs here used them and loved them, they are very sensitive and highly rated.

Thanks for the compliment! Our lives are Nutcracker Central from Thanksgiving to Christmas, it's insane. I do love that ballet, though, there is nothing like that story to get you in the mood for Christmas. But I TOTALLY hear you with expenses, if we didn't do what we do for a living, I would not be able to afford many ballets either! What ballet company are you nearest to?

[LolaInLove]

That is a nice mental image, LOL! Good to know about the maca for the DH's though. Could be a great add to their supps. I was super lucky that DH was already taking fish oil, vit D, and a zinc + b-complex. He wasn't down with swaying but he wasn't taking any of that before we got pg with the girls so I'm hoping it gave him a boost.

I'm sure it did! Zinc is supposed to be a big sperm booster. I can't wait to see what you have in there, B! Gonna be a long 30 week wait, you stinker! :wink:

I am so curious to see what my DH's SA comes back with....I think he's going to do it on Monday. Poor guy, I told him he didn't need to, but he now thinks it's him and wants to know. He knows I'm just going to stuff him with more pills, LOL.

[begonia]

Oh I'm curious about his SA too Lola, just knowing what he went through back with the tortion, and all the ... umm, heat his business takes from being wrapped up tightly. Hopefully it is sky high with all the supps and such!

I was just posting on the blue crew grad thread that unless the doc gives me a pic with a glaringly obvious nub shot I'm not sure I want to even have that hint of nub guessing! This past week I've actually been a-ok with the idea of another girl, part of me even gets really excited about it, but I worry that if I acutally knew it was a girl I'd be upset. So I'm down with waiting....plus, if it is a boy, I really think the surprise at delivery will just be amazing after reading Frogs delivery story so now I want to wait it out for that!

But I want everyone else who is swaying to find out !!!:rofl:

[3Pink1Blue]

B- for extra fun my birthday falls on Easter sometimes too lol

Alexis- boo for kidney stones, hope Dh feels better soon.

Lola- I hear ya, I hate being chunky and constantly eating. I too long to return to my old ways, every time I grocery shop I hope I don't run into anyone who knew me in my size 8, love to run days. Look on the bright side, the girl swayers are starving lol sounds like the carnival was a great distraction for you and yum for vodka snow cones! Oh and I think it's great Dh is getting his swimmers tested and you are keeping at this. I know you'll get your tiny one :kiss:

Wp- yeah for mini meatloaves, perfect for boy! I heard green tea can mess with things but I was chugging it for months and never noticed any changes except tons of ewcm! I loved the WondFo opk's but I got crazy evaps with the preg tests, as long as you take em and toss em you're fine but if you save them to obsess they can be misleading.

B3b- this stuff is all so confusing but you've got the right attitude, sway to the fullest on the things that make sense to you, ignore the rest.

Omg ladies 14 wks! I'm actually starting to get really excited somewhat against my will lol FX for some bfp soon!

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, your baby will be worth the wait! We can live with it, LOL! I am sure I will be finding out, though, if I ever get pg that is.

3PNB, hooray for 14 weeks!!!!! Please tell me you will find out in the next 2-6 weeks!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- for the first time in 3 pregs dh is dying to know so YES! Well most likely :bigsmile:

[LolaInLove]

Sweet! I can't wait to see how some of these GD sways are working.

[WashingtonPromise]

Time to step away from the computer!!!! I have been researching all the boy swaying things, again....just to refresh and get ready for this month. I just need to limit my computer time....I may drive myself nutty if I don't. I didn't think about the G.tea or the gelatin until now. I was brewing my own loose leaf tea, and I think I was making it too strong....it was keeping me up at night. I bought a decaf, but it has peppermint and spearmint....is that okay? I only eat the gelatin once a day (I make it with OJ).

Begonia: We both want a healthy baby the most, but secondly we both want another boy. DH says we need more "farm hands" and the girls help mostly with the house work. Hubby's quote, "If the next one is a girl, it just gives me any excuse to try again." I would REALLY love to re-decorate with my cowboy and idians theme room, too. But, in all honesty....I just want a healthy baby and delivery.

Lola: Dh always wanted to have his swimmers checked out....just so he could brag. If your hubby doesn't blow them out of the water with an awesome count, then there is something wrong. He needs the bring his suitcase of Vits to the appt....just so they know who their dealing with :) We are a few hours from Atlanta, Georgia....closest ballet. Maybe this x-mas....while I am preggo.

3pnb: You and B are drving us crazy with not finding out the gender!!! (Although I plan on doing the same thing :) )

[WashingtonPromise]

Never mind you ARE finding out!!! I can't wait!!!

[WashingtonPromise]

There is board on FF that are swaying boys and they have 7 out of 10 boys!!! Could be the luck of the draw....who knows....I did try to ask some ?s though.

[LolaInLove]

There is board on FF that are swaying boys and they have 7 out of 10 boys!!! Could be the luck of the draw....who knows....I did try to ask some ?s though.

Oh, I'd LOVE to know what they are doing in comparison to us! You are in GA? I'm in SC! I assumed you were in Washington state because of your screen name! I *think* the peppermint is supposed to sway girl somehow.....I don't know why....but maybe save that for pregnancy and get a straight decaf green if you can, or if that bothers you about the peppermint.

[daisyfay311]

Oh wow, WP, I thought you were in Washington State too! Cool that you are over by Atlanta.

It is so exciting that so many people are getting farther along in pregnancies!

I was thinking I would be O'ing this weekend but it's looking like it will be at least Monday if not later. Ugh, that sucks, I am CD 14 already! I used to always O around CD 14. Stupid supps! Oh well. I am thinking to dtd tonight, maybe Saturday morning, and Sunday night (if I O around Monday). If it looks like it will be later than that, I don't know. I am sick of waiting. I can't believe I have been doing this diet since April! I am starting to forget what my "real" diet is like.

[begonia]

Jen too funny that your DH is dying to find out this time! Is it because of the sway? This is actually the 1st time DH has had an interest in finding out... but even though he's more curious this time he really wants to wait since I'm willing this time. So glad you're finding out though; that's going to be such fun!

I'm with you Lola; super curious to see how the GD style works as opposed to the IG style. It will be awhile before we have a number of results though. Then we'll be the old ladies on here cheering on a bunch of new swayers, LOL! It will also be interesting to see what new research comes out in the next 5-10 years as it relates to maternal diet and fetal gender. I think the author of the Oxford study was planning a follow-up.

WP I remember the peppermint thing is supposed to sway girl according to IG. I used plain decaf green tea. Although from time to time I got the Tazo green tea at Starbucks and that had mint in it. I doubt it is anything near the amount pink swayers take, whatever it is. What are those FF swayers doing?!?! Dying to know! And super curious if they did any special timing methods! 7 of 10 about matches what the gals I know from IG were achieving and I think that is a great success rate! I think the cowboys and indians theme is so cute. I haven't even thought of what I would do for a boy! I might have to spend some time looking at stuff online to get some ideas :-) A friend of mine did a paper airplane theme that was darling.

BOOO to delayed O Daisy! Oh well ... not such bad timing to get to BD over the weekend though! When does school start for you? And I know what you mean about forgetting your regular diet ... although I will say this 1st trimester mine has been pretty high-carb low-protein which is fairly similar to my pre-girls diet. I don't really feel bad, I just can't seem to get much appetite for things that aren't carb heavy. Today I ate a biscuit for breakfast, noodles for lunch, and am probably having a baked potato for dinner. Blah. I so look forward to getting a normal diet again and am hoping that comes in the next 3-4 weeks.

DD2 is obsessed with Wall-E right now and it's a cute movie and all but good heavens ... I'm so tired of it, LOL!

[iluvmyman]

Lola- I'm so scared of the homebirth, I've had 2 births that needed intervention. I like the hospital/midwife combo, peace in my room, technology down the hall lol

B- yep same pal

Elp- b's right, I'll clarify. They won't turn you away in an emergency but can refuse to treat you in a non-emergency situation.

Alexis- fear not the vaginal birth, quick healing and you feel back to normal within days.

Iluv- thanks Hun, I'm starting to relax a bit and feel happy. The bigger the belly gets the happier I'm starting to feel, the little kicks aren't hurting either :bigsmile:
My sil does things with her kids that are hurting them in the long run. It's so hard to sit and watch but not always worth the fight.

WP- all brothers huh, yeah you really miss the drama of being close to a screw-up sister. Enjoy it lol Have you studied Bradleys? I love it!

3PNB - I so wish the hospitals here would cater a bit more to women like myself who want a different experience. There are a few hospitals around here that offer a home birth style birth but not many and too expensive for us. There are still risks such as disease, problems can still occur at hospital, increased c-sections and stuff but I would've done it at the hospital if they offered more of what I was looking for. I also didn't want the Vit. K shots or that stuff they put on their eyes, and I'll need to see if I can get a waiver for that. I also want the umbilical cord to not be clamped or cut until after it stops pulsating. I also want my children to be there again. I will for sure miss the birthing tub though, that was so great.

You get to feel the kicks at 14 weeks? That is so great. I can't feel till 18 - 20 weeks. That's sooo fun and I can't wait to feel a child inside of me kicking, moving and full of life. There's no way DH will go for #6 so remind me to enjoy it!

Kris - are you doing a c-section on purpose?

Begonia - Anything can happen in birth. I used to think differently but it happens every day in home birth and at the hospitals. A reminder to be thankful for healthy babies for sure. LOL! Hormones are such a pain!

[iluvmyman]

Nope. The Bradley method is husband/partner coached childbirth. They teach ways to cope with the pain. Hypnobabies, and also Hypnobirthing (different method) teach you to interpret the pain differently so as not to feel it. A lot of the pain you feel is fear of the process itself. Getting yourself into a deep relaxation allows you to simply feel waves of pressure. I didn't think it would work at all and would always fall asleep to the cd's. But when the time came, I was up and talking, getting my hair braided, giving DD a bath all while my water had broken and I was contracting regularly. Contrasting with my first birth where I didn't make it to 2 cm before I screamed I couldn't take the pain.

I was wanting to do the hypnobirth w/ DS2 but it was just too expensive and I was saving to pay for the midwife. With all the expensive supps I want to take this time I don't think I can do it either. Sounded great though.

[iluvmyman]

I totally get that too. I actually might have a hospital birth this go round as we're in a sort of flux where I'm not totally comfortable here. We're staying in my family's 100 year old house while ours in on the market 3 hours away. It needs an insane amount of work and I just don't really want to live here, much less birth here! There's a birth center about 45 mins away that might be a good compromise but I have no problem just showing up the hossy near pushing and calling it done. I'm so very sorry to read of your loss and that you're going through so much right now with your family. I hope things calm soon.

Thanks. I think laboring as much at home is a good compromise. My labors are about 4 hours so I don't have too much messin around time. I really don't want to down home birth and there are sooo many great things about it. I so wish it would've been a different experience obviously. Mostly CNMW do the births at our hospital but there is still so much red tape and things I don't like about hospital births for sure. I would love but obviously wouldn't do a HB again.

I'm fine mostly, just depends on the day and the hormones. :) I have gone through some crap in my life for sure but so has everyone else. I don't like to bring it up too much and have people feel bad for me. Crap just happens. You women are all so sweet to me.

[iluvmyman]

iluv, I hope you feeling ok. You sound like your in a reel rotten place in your life atm, you need some luck to come your way don't you:hugs: How long will it be before you can get back into your house? That will help 1000% won't it:) Your space, your home and rules.

Me, my own place? HA! I guess when I quit homeschooling a get a job. :) I would love to move out I just don't know how we could afford it. 1/2 of DH's salary goes to rent now and then 100% living on our own again. It's a pipedream at this point. My parents rely on us to make their mortgage so it's a bit tricky. I'm looking but half-heartedly, I just don't see how we could make it. I really want to though, it's so hard here and I can't raise my family like I should. We're praying about it.

The hospital does have some benny's, ELP. :)

[iluvmyman]

iluv: we have added your family to our prayer list. Try not to feel guilty, I know easier said than done. No one deserves the pain you went threw.

b3: I may have to look into hypnobirthing. I have heard of it, but never researched.

Yes, I did the Bradley method with the last 2 births.....sooooo much better than the other 4.

Funny story.....

I woke up this morning at 5am to go potty and was not hungry. Of course, I thought to my self.....well AF must be coming and the symptoms are gone :( . Well as soon as I got back into bed my stomach started growling like it was eating itself and DH even asked me if I was going to get up and feed my "black hole". So, no AF and an over active stomach. What a weird cycle!?!? I just wish this cycle would end, so I could start the next one or get a BFP. This is so weird considering I always have a 28 day cyle if not BFing.

How you doing Lola?

Awww, thanks WP! Prayer are always needed. :)

[begonia]

Iluv! HI! I was just thinking about you and wondering if you had popped on today. How are you feeling? 7.5 weeks already! When do you go to your doc again? And when is your next thyroid test?

[iluvmyman]

Well, after reading this, I TOTALLY see where you are coming from. You have a good peaceful attitude about it, Iluv...although I am sure you had your moments of being VERY VERY angry with God and a lot else. I would. It just sucks that you had to be one of the ones that had something go wrong with a homebirth. I know I've told you how my heart breaks for what happened, but I also want to tell you that even though I don't know you IRL, I have a tremendous respect for you for all you have been through and how strong you seem to remain. God will give you this next one, I just know it. xxoo

I don't deserve this outpouring of love you guys, I feel silly. I have times not of being angry at God so much just deeply sad sometimes. I wonder why me? but there's no answer to that. Crappy things happen all the time in this sinful world and people have been through so much worse than me. It's hard cuz it's just such a horrible things to happen. The what if's and guilt are really hard and for the most part I try not to think that way, but I have my moments. I just long for him mostly right now, like he would be pulling up and walking around furniture right now, stuff like that. I'm sure you ladies who have experienced the loss of your children earlier in your pregnancies KWIM. Losing children is so foreign it's just a tough one. Just hope this baby is perfectly healthy. Good will come from my son's death somehow. I so appreciate you Lola!! :hugs:

[iluvmyman]

WP, no AF still? Aren't you 15dpo now? OMG. You must test tomorrow morning. Is this really unusual for you?

I am 11dpo today, and this morning, I stared at the FRER as I did the peepee dance for a minute when I woke up and decided to give poas a miss today. I will try it again tomorrow. I just chickened out, to be honest. I needed a day of not being upset about it if another bfn. With ttc for so long, I've just seen too many bfns, and they still bum me out! I am really a better candidate for waiting till AF is due and then testing, but I just can't help myself since I got 2 bfps at 10dpo with my m/cs this year.

Plus, I needed a day of just being happy that my a$$ho!e ex and his wife found out they are having a GIRL yesterday, HAHAHAHA! My oldest talked on the phone to him and said he did not sound happy about it! And, how ridiculous is this, he has apparently been going on and on about how he hopes it is a boy, etc, all summer. I am sure it made my girls feel just wonderful about themselves. But, God has a great sense of humor. Give the misogynists all girls. I love it.

This is so mean of me, but YAY!!!!!!

[iluvmyman]

I'm pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Took a clearblue digital as af hadn't come! Wow,I'm shaking,I'm soooooo happy,thanks for all the help and encouragement,hope it goes ok now,will post this on 2ww too.:-)

YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats jane!!!!!

[Kris217]

Kris how are you feeling these days? And did Sarah end up getting to use the same donor? That would be super cool for the babies!

Oh I am feeling horrible! Day 13 of me being sick with flu like symptoms. I ended up seeing a different Dr and he thinks I could have Swine Flu as it's going around this area. So I had some blood taken and a throat swab done and should get the results back today. I hope they find something, I will be so frustrated if they say they don't know what's wrong with me!
Sarah will be trying in a few weeks, she skipped last cycle as it was too soon and she wants to wait til my scan to make sure I'm having just 1 baby lol.

[iluvmyman]

No...Im thinking to wait till Oct. ? Oh idk...so scared .Im sure Im not doing this thing good !
Confused about the diet too...just not sure anymore what can we eat and what not . I guess there is to many version of it now!:worry:

If I have a boy, I'm chalking it up to shear luck. That's how good I feel about my sway. :) If i got prego on month one or two I would've felt pretty stinking good. Oh well, plz God! :)

[iluvmyman]

I had to run out to the store, so I got a pack of Answer tests.....BFN, again. There is no faint, no nothing, just one lone line. I don't know what to do. I checked my chart from last month and I had a 28 day cycle. Now I am on day 33. I know I Oed a little later, but this crap is really starting to tick me off!!!! I think at this point, I may be just as happy to see AF. We are only going to TTC for July and August....my August cycle is being ate up my this crazy one.


Sorry guys, I am just in a crappy place right now. I guess it is the fact of not knowing what is going on. Should I still be on the diet? Supp?

Our cow is pregnant....I guess I should be happy for her.

WP, what supps are you taking? Anything new? Some of the supps can extend your cycle. Stay on the diet but let's look at your supps.

Sorry, looks like Begonia answered this for you. Darn, I should really read ahead. :)

[iluvmyman]

Iluv! HI! I was just thinking about you and wondering if you had popped on today. How are you feeling? 7.5 weeks already! When do you go to your doc again? And when is your next thyroid test?

Saw the heartbeat on wed. That was so great to see. How fun it's been to watch grow week by week. It went for a small black hole to a beating hear. Thank God for little miracles. I have the Group meeting next wed. and another Dr. appt Friday where he'll also check my thyroid (8 week mark). I assume it will be once a month appointments for a while instead. I'll miss seeing the baby though. I'm doing OK, tired every couple days for so where I need to spend some time in bed (crash days) and nausea is OK. I went to the chiropractor and acupuncture this week and need to wait till pay day to get all the crazy expensive supps I plan on taking. Will be seeing the chiropractor every 2 weeks or so at a$10 co-pay so not too bad. Other than that, feeling a little less psychotic this week but only had to work Monday so that was a great surprise. I did fill it up instead of desperatly needeed cleaning to play at the bordwalk and beach w/ my gf and our kids. Cleaned MIL's today and exhausted but need to jump up to shower and get kids in bed to hit the 8:15 showing of Harry Potter. :)

How about you? THanks for thinking about me. I'm too tired to log in most nights now. :)

[iluvmyman]

Oh I am feeling horrible! Day 13 of me being sick with flu like symptoms. I ended up seeing a different Dr and he thinks I could have Swine Flu as it's going around this area. So I had some blood taken and a throat swab done and should get the results back today. I hope they find something, I will be so frustrated if they say they don't know what's wrong with me!
Sarah will be trying in a few weeks, she skipped last cycle as it was too soon and she wants to wait til my scan to make sure I'm having just 1 baby lol.

Smart more Sarah. :) 2 hormonal pregos in a household could be a little scary though. Does dinner get made if you are both too tired to cook.....take out! :)
The swine flu and being pregnant sounds pretty scary. I sure hope it's OK.

GL to Sarah on her attempt!!!

[Flava]

Ladies Im feeling a lot better now.
The thing is I was painting the new room for DD2 and 3 . Pink and red...DD3 picked it. We always picked the colors before so now they are happy . The room is nice looks like a candy store lol. But, it made me so sad because I was thinking I always paint a girly room and will never paint a room for a boy...This made me write the sad post.I thought people here understand it...anyway I came back to post but then I read about the cow and what if it's a boy and it made me more sad for it.(sorry WP hope it's a girl!)
Anyway couple weeks ago I went to help paint this other house and they picked a color for the master bedroom ...while I was painting the room I had this dream in my head about my boy room! I love that color so much they picked ,even the name of it !
Before this I never had an idea how I would decorate a baby boy room , had no vision , no clue , ect. Even when ttc DC4. But now I do I know exactly what I would do!
(don't want to jinx it so I don't say what kind of room lol)And maybe just maybe I can have a boy and make my dream room for him. And why Im thinking this? Because I checked my pH today and it was 7!!! How this happened I don't know but Im so happy . It just shows me that something is going good , even is pH not so important for everyone it gives me hope that if I do thing good and see change maybe I can have a boy too!

[Flava]

Sorry I have no time to read back and Im very tired from all the work here. ( have to take on a challenge huh?)
Hope Lola and everyone else get a bfp!
Kris- you get better soon!
and iluv I just really wish you get a boy for sure!
good night

[Tink18]

haha this is how I feel about my evil SIL having her 3rd boy. She wanted a girl SOO bad. She is currently pregnant with her 3rd boy. When they found out it was a boy DH and I giggled and did a bit of a chest bump like HA now our DD will only ever be the only girl on that side of the family A HOLES! I totally understand...i dont wish harm...i just like the "Ah ha" it also made think...we will have all girls! LOL

[Tink18]

Gosh this thread is moving quickly! So much is going on. I hope everyone is doing good. Sending my love. I have like no time at all these days!! But im tracking, eating...and soon going to be here for my qustions when it gets close to my attempt. can SOME ONE please update me on everyone in a nutshell. I feel bad i cant go back and read all the pages!!! I love you forever... I miss you all.. once this bachelorette party is done i can resume my life!! and my baby making!!!!

[TTC5]

Hi guys! Will catch up on personals soon :)

[begonia]

. But now I do I know exactly what I would do!
(don't want to jinx it so I don't say what kind of room lol)And maybe just maybe I can have a boy and make my dream room for him. And why Im thinking this? Because I checked my pH today and it was 7!!! How this happened I don't know but Im so happy . It just shows me that something is going good , even is pH not so important for everyone it gives me hope that if I do thing good and see change maybe I can have a boy too!

Flava this is an AWESOME post!!! I love it! Congrats on the great pH; whether pH matters or not, it does for sure show that the diet is making REAL changes in your body, and that is encouraging!

[begonia]

Iluv that would be so neat to see your baby week by week on u/s! I'm glad you've been getting to do that. And TOTALLY skip out on responsible things and go to the boardwalk anytime you can, for sure! Glad the exhaustion and nausea seem manageable at this point; a few days down isn't terrible ... FX it gets better!

Kris, so sorry to hear you're so sick! I hope that passes quickly. I'm with Iluv, wise to not have 2 pregnancies in the same house so close together! And to make sure you're not having twins :wink: When is your 1st scan?

Flava, your post reminded me that when I was little I had a bedroom with wide, vertical pink and white stripes. It was like a pink and white jail, LOL! I think that is great you let the girls pick out the colors. I let my girls pick out new bedding a month ago: DD1 got Scooby Doo, and DD2 got Wall-E. If I have a boy he'll probably pick princess bedding at this rate :shrug:

Hi to TTC5 and Tink! Glad to see you girls! Looking forward to your attempts!

[Flava]

begonia thanks ! We did not paint stripes , 2 wall is red and 2 is pink. Oh if I had to pain stripes it would take forever lol.
Now I have to go we put in wood floor and finish the closet and it's done! Oh yeah and after is done we have to move everyone around in new rooms. omg...
DD3 also loves boyish things like Thomas the train ! lol
And hope you know you have to post some baby pics for us no matter what because we just have to see it .Hopefully a nub pic to obsess over LOL
Eh g2g work:wink:

[LolaInLove]

Oh wow, WP, I thought you were in Washington State too! Cool that you are over by Atlanta.

It is so exciting that so many people are getting farther along in pregnancies!

I was thinking I would be O'ing this weekend but it's looking like it will be at least Monday if not later. Ugh, that sucks, I am CD 14 already! I used to always O around CD 14. Stupid supps! Oh well. I am thinking to dtd tonight, maybe Saturday morning, and Sunday night (if I O around Monday). If it looks like it will be later than that, I don't know. I am sick of waiting. I can't believe I have been doing this diet since April! I am starting to forget what my "real" diet is like.

Stupid supps indeed! I know, girl. I think you have a good bd plan. Know what, if you guys dtd last night, I'd even wait till Sat night, then do Monday night. Just space it 48 hours apart each time....that is a very good pattern for high sperm count, that is what my doctor recommended actually. If you O on Monday, then you will catch it for sure. Just a thought!

[LolaInLove]

I don't deserve this outpouring of love you guys, I feel silly. I have times not of being angry at God so much just deeply sad sometimes. I wonder why me? but there's no answer to that. Crappy things happen all the time in this sinful world and people have been through so much worse than me. It's hard cuz it's just such a horrible things to happen. The what if's and guilt are really hard and for the most part I try not to think that way, but I have my moments. I just long for him mostly right now, like he would be pulling up and walking around furniture right now, stuff like that. I'm sure you ladies who have experienced the loss of your children earlier in your pregnancies KWIM. Losing children is so foreign it's just a tough one. Just hope this baby is perfectly healthy. Good will come from my son's death somehow. I so appreciate you Lola!! :hugs:

Dude, DO NOT feel silly for one minute....I just really can't imagine how I'd get through a baby's death, and I have intense admiration for those who manage to do so and still be so dedicated to their family, which you obviously are with making sacrifices to homeshchool still and the like. I read what you write and I would feel the same way....I am just keeping HUGE FX that another little man is on the way. I have read that there is nothing quite as healing as having another child. We are all pulling for you!

[LolaInLove]

Oh I am feeling horrible! Day 13 of me being sick with flu like symptoms. I ended up seeing a different Dr and he thinks I could have Swine Flu as it's going around this area. So I had some blood taken and a throat swab done and should get the results back today. I hope they find something, I will be so frustrated if they say they don't know what's wrong with me!
Sarah will be trying in a few weeks, she skipped last cycle as it was too soon and she wants to wait til my scan to make sure I'm having just 1 baby lol.

Oh lord, swine flu!?!? I hope they figure it out and you feel better soon, Kris!!!!!! Keep us updated!

[LolaInLove]

Morning everyone!

Well, I am supposed to have AF today, and I took that last rapid result day-of-AF test and it was a big fat negatron. So, I am stopping the progesterone today, should have AF later today or tomorrow. Sometimes the progesterone makes it delay a bit. I just stuffed my face with a vat of Cheerios, freakin' breakfast! And here is my fat rant of the day: I see pics of me on FB from the event the other night with snowcones, and I don't even recognize my face anymore! It is SO much rounder! I got super depressed about it. I think this is my new plan: if no bfp in the next 3 tries, then I am going to either A) take the rest of the year off until next summer and lose this weight or B) play with fire a little bit and lose this weight AND continue to ttc, just going to take supps and be super fertility-friendly of course, but will likely go back to old eating and working out habits. That may get me a 3rd girl, but ya know what, at this point, I care less and less every day. And who knows, maybe taking supps and using Clomid and preseed will do the trick and I'll get a boy anyway. WHO KNOWS! I am just so afraid of gaining 40lbs like I always do when pg and topping 200lbs and just being a whale. I will freak out, and I want to enjoy my last pregnancy and not feel like a cow and be paranoid about everything I eat. Anyway, rant over. Thank you for reading!

I was just going to write everyone a comment, and then I totally forgot. And not even taking the Maca, bwahaha!

Oh, Iluv, ITA with you on the hospital not being a great environment for those of us who wish to have what they consider "alternative" births and newborn procedures. I asked them to let me have DD2's cord pulse out, and the said no because she was a meconium baby and needed to go get a checkup right away. (Although, and here is the crazy part: she only had the poo on her neck down, as her head was engaged when she pooped, so HOW COULD IT HAVE GONE IN HER NOSE? I could even tell that by looking at her. But NO, they had to freak and act like she was in a big emergency. Midwife at that! It was "hospital procedure" they told me.) So I agree, *most* hospitals don't accomodate birth tubs (although I know some do now, but you are right, probably private super expensive hospitals) and let you make decisions about the newborn's aftercare. But your story is the kind that makes me think twice about it, just to be on the safe side. I know you aren't anti-HB, but I completely understand where you are coming from. ILuv, what expensive supps do you take while pg?

Flava, THAT'S THE SPIRIT! Hun, we all know very well how you feel, so vent away any time you need! But I can guarantee you that we aren't going to let you think you can't do it, that's what we are all here for, to cheer each other on. Your girls room sounds cute!

Begonia, I LOVE Wall-E, that is one of my all-time fave kids movies. I think it's brilliant how they encorporate the environmental message in there so well for children to understand. I also love UP, I am sure you guys have seen that, it makes me cry like a baby! I cry at movies all the time, though, my DH thinks it's hilarious. I will go from joyous laughter to tears rolling down my face in literally 5 seconds when those humane society commercials come on with the cute sad little puppies and kittens in the cages that are all abused. I can't remember what else I was going to tell you.....

Tink, what's up, lady?? We miss you! Sounds like you are doing well and gearing up, which is great! I am clearly not the one to do an update right now, LOL...I haven't had my coffee yet. But I am NOT pregnant, I can tell you that.

OK, more will come.....

[begonia]

Too funny, with the hypnobirthing thing we've covered the past couple of days ... popped on to CNN.com and they had an article about it on there: http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/08/12/hypnobirth.pregnancy/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Flava I think the stripes would be killer to paint! Mine were wallpaper thank heavens! Fun that your girls are getting new floors too, they must be so excited! And I will definitely post my 12 week shots, nub or no nub. Jen's with the little wave got me all excited :happy:

Lola, I think your plan re: giving it a few more tries and then losing weight while TTC is a good one. You can't let this take over your life and I know how uncomfortable it is to just not be at your natural, comfortable weight. I think it was PrincessofPink who mentioned Cohen's diet in her sway plan? Did you see that? It's a diet developed by an IVF doc to help women increase fertility while still losing weight. Maybe look into that? Because I totally agree that with this being your last pregnancy you want to enjoy it, and it won't be as easy to do if you just feel yuck. And I think Wall-E is darling! I'm so surprised my 2 year old loves it so much though because the colors are a bit dark and the theme is definitely not easy, LOL! But she just adores wall-e and eve; it really is funny. UP totally makes me cry! And I switch the channels when the SPCA commercials come on, I can't take them :sad: We donate to them in our dogs name though :happy:

DD2 just found her baby book and is looking at her newborn pictures with such delight; it's so sweet! I forgot how young DD1 looked then.... precious girls!

[WashingtonPromise]

Wow, you guys are busy at night....

Flava: Your girls room sounds cute. Do their comforters match? We did red and blue stripes in our boys' room. You are right, it took forever. We ended up putting chair rail half way up and painting the bottom half the blue color. I'll show you a pic if you will show me yours :)

Begonia: We love wall-e. We don't own it, but it is on our list.

Lola: Sorry about the - . I am CD3, so we can be cycle buddies :) DD1 and DS1 about were meconium and both had the aweful suction. My midwife decided to induce me a week early to try and avoid it with the next one (I was 2 wks late with the first two). They induced me 3 times with pitocin and all and he did not come until I was 1 week past my due date and he was not meconium. I forgot to say, I also agree with Begonia....if your unhappy with your body, do what you want to do and still continue TTCing. I think you still have a better than average chance of getting a boy even while dieting.

iluv: We have had the same thing as Lola happen to us. We make requests about after care of the baby and they only do about 50%. Here they did let us choose about the vit k, eye drops, and PKU. But, I still felt uneasy about some of the care the children got.

Kris: Take care of yourself. My cousin had the swine flu last year, they recovered quickly.

Okay....

Yep, I live in GA. I was born in Washington state (my screen name). My parents just sold the last of their property up there. We like Ga, but it has been really hot and dry the past couple years.
I think I will just buy some more green tea without the peppermint...if I am going to obsess I might as well do it right.

supps...
folic acid
prenatal
b-12 complex (I think it is the complex)
zinc
Vit d
Vit e
Potassium
Fish oil

Am I missing anything?

Hubby did notice the extra pills in his box....he just rolled his eyes and kept on tossing them in his mouth. I would like to get some Royal Jelly. why not, right? I think I can fit one more bottle in my shoebox full of pills.

This school year is kicking my butt. I am going to have to rearrange things a bit to fit it all in. Thank goodness this farm work has wound down.

English class here I come.

[begonia]

WP, you might can skip potassium pills if you're getting it thru diet... not sure if that would save much $ as I don't know how much that one costs. I think the RJ is pricey though right? But I've heard nothing but good things on that one. I never tried it though.

The boys room sounds cute! Our new house is supposed to be finished in about 3 months and I'm starting to think about what to do in the girls room. I might do bead board on the bottom and then something blue-ish on top since the wall-e and scooby beds both have some blue in them. DD1 has also requested a Batman mural, LOL! I don't know where she got that idea... probably the pottery barn kids catalog with all that superhero stuff.

LOL about if you're going to obsess you might as well do it right. My kinda girl :-)

[begonia]

Oh and I meant to say WP I can't believe they tried THREE times to induce you with pitocin! And it didn't take! Wow ... that baby was NOT ready, huh?!? I had an induction with my 1st and it was cake. DD2 came on her own thankfully, perfect timing too, just 5 hours into the day after her due date and on a Saturday morning... made it easy to find a friend at home to take DD1 for us :happy:

Goodness .... I don't know what we will end up doing this time if I'm not induced. It'll be difficult to plan for since we don't have any family around to figure out who can take our kids, especially since DD1 will be in school this year.

[LolaInLove]

WP, looks like you are on the road to being like me and my DH with our "troughs" LOL! Mine does the same...."what is in here now???" and I just give him the look. I would add the RJ and if you want to give it a try, EPO also. I really like EPO, and I think you can't take enough oil supps when swaying boy. It's not expensive, either, and a big ewcm maker for many. But, if the fish oil is doing you enough good, you don't need to add it. I just like the oils because they are healthy. I take flax oil also. And yea, we have had HOTTT and dry summers in our region the last few years for sure! Last summer was horrible for the farmers, did you guys suffer from that draught? We have had some rain in the past month so not so bad right now but it has been 100 degrees for months it seems. I tell ya, I think global warming ain't just some shenanigans made up by Al Gore....

B and WP, thanks for your input on the ttc plans. I am really thinking I might just have to abandon swaying and do a super light sway....I think I can try to keep blood sugar high and all, but I won't be eating lots of heavy meals, probably working out a good bit more. I just can't worry about it. I may be that this weight is inhibiting my getting pg also!

[LolaInLove]

WP, are you going to school? And yea, your babies are having nothing to do with inductions! I am personally not a fan of being induced, as everyone I know who has been induced had a c-section. I do not think some doctors do it properly. They pump you full of pitocin, then you are writhing in pain from it as it causes unnatural contractions to come on, then you get the epi and are flat on your back for the rest of it and I think that is partly what has caused our nation's ridiculous c-section rate.

[DoulaMama]

WP, are you going to school? And yea, your babies are having nothing to do with inductions! I am personally not a fan of being induced, as everyone I know who has been induced had a c-section. I do not think some doctors do it properly. They pump you full of pitocin, then you are writhing in pain from it as it causes unnatural contractions to come on, then you get the epi and are flat on your back for the rest of it and I think that is partly what has caused our nation's ridiculous c-section rate.
Sorry to crash...I just had to say I :HH: you Lola :wink: :bigsmile: Look into doula training...you'd be awesome.

[LolaInLove]

Sorry to crash...I just had to say I :HH: you Lola :wink: :bigsmile: Look into doula training...you'd be awesome.

I :awe: you too, DM!!!! That is so sweet of you to say....I have thought about it many times. I actually have been thinking of even going to med school to become a ob-gyner and making it my mission to shake this bullshit obstetric world onto its head. I know a couple of them here who would join me if I did, including my awesome doc who quit ob because of ridic insurance, etc. We'll see.....just depends on how DH's career transition in the next couple of years goes, and if I can make and have a baby and get through the toddler years first!

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: If we didn't know better we would think you had a house full of boys over there, with the batman, wall-e, and scooby :) I have been thinking about dropping the potassium, but it is one of the cheaper ones.

Lola: I think your right on with wanting to loss weight. It will make TTCing easier if your happy and healthy. Not going to school....homeschooling 4 children.

DM:We all LOVE Lola!!!

Inductions stunk for me . I hated them, but the practice would not let me go more than a week or two over due. My last 2 labors and deliveries were the best...hands down. no pitocin, no iv, no pain meds, and no post partum pain meds. The conx were so bad with the pit that I needed the pain meds before and after delivery. The experiences are like night and day.

Back to the chalkboard....... :)

[begonia]

See now I will say, I was induced with my 1st, and it was AMAZING. I had a great experience with it. I was induced with the pitocin and then had an epidural at around 5 cm, "labored" 5 hours (I mean really, with an epidural it is NOT labor, LOL!) and pushed her out with no problem. It was really great and for many reasons it was 100% the right choice for me at that time in my life and I don't regret it at all.

But I will say I didn't want to be induced with my second just because while, like I said, I had a great previous experience, I know that isn't always the case and prefer to avoid the risks. Plus DD2 started labor just hours after her due date so was perfectly timed :happy: And this time I WILL do it (i think i can, i think i can) with no epidural since I got so close last time. I can't wait, actually, because I know I'll feel so proud of myself :bigsmile:

I do have a huge problem with elective c-sections. That's all I will say about that because I'm not going to get on a soapbox.

Lola that is super cool that DH is going to go to school; when will he start? You would be an awesome OB/GYN. No doubt very in tune to your patients after all you've been through with this ttc business. I hadn't thought about the weight impacting ttc but you could be on to something. You plateaued though right, and aren't gaining anymore?

WP are you in school? I thought you meant class for your kids? The tomboy thing with my girls cracks me up; it's kind of like I have one of each already bc DD1 hasn't worn a dress since she was 18 months old and could express an opinion. She has ALWAYS chosen "boys" toys like legos, cars, superheros, etc. DD2 is a mix, she loooooves sparkly things and pink clothes, but has no interest in dolls or babies ... she definitely likes to play with cars and legos too. We got her a dollhouse for her 2nd birthday because I wanted her to have the option but she hasn't touched it in 3 months. Anyhow if we have a son we're all set in the toy department!

[begonia]

Oh and WP I second Lola's rec on the EPO! I really liked it. It definitely upped my EWCM but the best part for me was it made my PMS cramps disappear. I never had PMS or spotting before AF until I swayed boy ... I know for sure something about the diet definitely impacted my cycle. I will be curious to see how things play out after this baby is born.

[TTC5]

WP, are you going to school? And yea, your babies are having nothing to do with inductions! I am personally not a fan of being induced, as everyone I know who has been induced had a c-section. I do not think some doctors do it properly. They pump you full of pitocin, then you are writhing in pain from it as it causes unnatural contractions to come on, then you get the epi and are flat on your back for the rest of it and I think that is partly what has caused our nation's ridiculous c-section rate.

I agree!

[TTC5]

Never mind Begonia posted at the same time as me.

LOLA?

I normally have a 14 day LP, but had 15-16 this cycle

Is B6 good for TTC a boy? I have been thinking about adding some B vitamins...maybe b12? Not sure, I need to find time to research it.

I would take b12 :)

[b3blue]

Saw the heartbeat on wed. That was so great to see. How fun it's been to watch grow week by week. It went for a small black hole to a beating hear. Thank God for little miracles. I have the Group meeting next wed. and another Dr. appt Friday where he'll also check my thyroid (8 week mark). I assume it will be once a month appointments for a while instead. I'll miss seeing the baby though. I'm doing OK, tired every couple days for so where I need to spend some time in bed (crash days) and nausea is OK. I went to the chiropractor and acupuncture this week and need to wait till pay day to get all the crazy expensive supps I plan on taking. Will be seeing the chiropractor every 2 weeks or so at a$10 co-pay so not too bad. Other than that, feeling a little less psychotic this week but only had to work Monday so that was a great surprise. I did fill it up instead of desperatly needeed cleaning to play at the bordwalk and beach w/ my gf and our kids. Cleaned MIL's today and exhausted but need to jump up to shower and get kids in bed to hit the 8:15 showing of Harry Potter. :)

How about you? THanks for thinking about me. I'm too tired to log in most nights now. :)

I'm so glad you saw the heartbeat! What a beautiful sight.


Ladies Im feeling a lot better now.
The thing is I was painting the new room for DD2 and 3 . Pink and red...DD3 picked it. We always picked the colors before so now they are happy . The room is nice looks like a candy store lol. But, it made me so sad because I was thinking I always paint a girly room and will never paint a room for a boy...This made me write the sad post.I thought people here understand it...anyway I came back to post but then I read about the cow and what if it's a boy and it made me more sad for it.(sorry WP hope it's a girl!)
Anyway couple weeks ago I went to help paint this other house and they picked a color for the master bedroom ...while I was painting the room I had this dream in my head about my boy room! I love that color so much they picked ,even the name of it !
Before this I never had an idea how I would decorate a baby boy room , had no vision , no clue , ect. Even when ttc DC4. But now I do I know exactly what I would do!
(don't want to jinx it so I don't say what kind of room lol)And maybe just maybe I can have a boy and make my dream room for him. And why Im thinking this? Because I checked my pH today and it was 7!!! How this happened I don't know but Im so happy . It just shows me that something is going good , even is pH not so important for everyone it gives me hope that if I do thing good and see change maybe I can have a boy too!

I'm so glad you're feeling better!!


Ok I read about 6 pages I think and IDK if I can respond to all so I'll just start fresh here teehee. I'm about to go on amazon and order up more supps. I have to really kick it into gear now as we're approaching the 6 week mark pre attempt! I think I've put on a couple of lbs. Probably water weight or something but I know I'm eating a lot more. Working out has been a God send. I haven't been away from both girls for more than maybe 5 hours in the whole 15 months that Lili has been here. Now it's 2 hours every week just for me. I didn't realize how badly I needed that.

[Alexis2007]

Wow you girls have been busy!! lol

Update on DH: no hernia but pretty sure it was/is a kidney stone. He had some blood in his urine last night so we think it may have passed. He is feeling a bit better! Yay! He said he might even be in the mood to dtd in the morning! lol I think I plan on dtd every other day until +opk. Trying to do morning bd sessions this time.

Lola-I hear ya on lightly swaying. I told DH if this isn't our magic cycle then I'm not doing the diet anymore. I'll still do supps to help my cm and maybe keep up the lemon water. I am fat too. I've gained 10-15lbs since April when I started this diet. I also think the diet/weight is stressing me out which could contribute to the bfn. My mom told me a couple weeks ago that I look 6 months pregnant! Gee thanks mom!! :(

[Flava]

Flava: Your girls room sounds cute. Do their comforters match? We did red and blue stripes in our boys' room. You are right, it took forever. We ended up putting chair rail half way up and painting the bottom half the blue color. I'll show you a pic if you will show me yours

Thanks ! I will post pics when is done and sure I like to see the boys room!

[Flava]

3blue -thanks! Im a lot better now only sad about all this fat on me.:sigh:

[Flava]

Alexis- good that you DH is ok!!
I put on the same like you ...so hate it!:mad: and yeah your mom is not nice lol

[Flava]

oh forget to ask, yesterday I had ewcm and today Im back to spotting. wth is this?? Never had it before. Maybe from some sups or all the work around here? We are making a whole new room for the girls from the garage and have to work around 4 kids here , we have no help just me and DH .(we also actually do the room alone)
Anyway I dunno:shrug::think:

[Kris217]

Iluv that would be so neat to see your baby week by week on u/s! I'm glad you've been getting to do that. And TOTALLY skip out on responsible things and go to the boardwalk anytime you can, for sure! Glad the exhaustion and nausea seem manageable at this point; a few days down isn't terrible ... FX it gets better!

Kris, so sorry to hear you're so sick! I hope that passes quickly. I'm with Iluv, wise to not have 2 pregnancies in the same house so close together! And to make sure you're not having twins :wink: When is your 1st scan?

Flava, your post reminded me that when I was little I had a bedroom with wide, vertical pink and white stripes. It was like a pink and white jail, LOL! I think that is great you let the girls pick out the colors. I let my girls pick out new bedding a month ago: DD1 got Scooby Doo, and DD2 got Wall-E. If I have a boy he'll probably pick princess bedding at this rate :shrug:

Hi to TTC5 and Tink! Glad to see you girls! Looking forward to your attempts!

My first scan is in 6 days :) by some freak of nature I were to be having twins then Sarah wouldn't try for quite a while. probably a year or so.

[Kris217]

Oh lord, swine flu!?!? I hope they figure it out and you feel better soon, Kris!!!!!! Keep us updated!

Well I don't have swine flu thank god, just some other virus that is making me sick and making my white blood cells a little too high. I could take antibiotics but i don't want to risk the baby so i will wait it out. I am getting better, i think the nausea is mostly morning sickness but it's all day and all night so not very pleasant.

[jane]

just a quick question, im on 1800mcg of folic acid, is that enough or should i take 500mcg more(my tabs are in 500mcg incraments plus prenatels 800mcg)

[Flava]

Kris-Im sorry hope you get better fast! The nausea is so bad I hate it. I got it for 22 weeks with DD4 all day all night , yuck!

[Flava]

just a quick question, im on 1800mcg of folic acid, is that enough or should i take 500mcg more(my tabs are in 500mcg incraments plus prenatels 800mcg)

I think we need 2000? Im taking 2400 but thinking to take more next month.

[Flava]

Oh I have another Q -got mucinex today but there is so many type no clue what we need.I got maximum strength 1200mg guaifenesin .It's says take 2/day. Is this ok or it really don't matter what type we take?

[Princess of Pink]

I just bought the same one online, 1200mg. Do we take the 2 per day? And what days are the best to take it on?

[Flava]

I will take 2/day because it says on the box. We need it for ewcm so only until O I guess.

[Princess of Pink]

Are you taking them now or waiting till month of attempt? I am thinking of taking them in Oct prior to my attempt to see how they go.

[Flava]

I took 1 today because I got it afternoon and will take it till O to see if it helps or not. I suppose to try next month!:nails:

[Flava]

Ohhh almost 1 am Im crazy! Must go sleep good night all!
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[Kris217]

Kris-Im sorry hope you get better fast! The nausea is so bad I hate it. I got it for 22 weeks with DD4 all day all night , yuck!

Holy crap 22 weeks, I sure hope I'm not that unfortunate! I have to force myself to eat and when I do I feel like puking it back up. I am going to ask my Ob about it as I know there is a medication they can prescribe, I can't do this for much longer!

[b3blue]

I was wanting to do the hypnobirth w/ DS2 but it was just too expensive and I was saving to pay for the midwife. With all the expensive supps I want to take this time I don't think I can do it either. Sounded great though.

I got the home study program for 60 bucks on a mom board.

[Hobbermittens]

Can I hang out with you ladies here? Or is this thread for people just TTC in August?

[WashingtonPromise]

Welcome Hobbermittens!!! There are a few here that are waiting. How long until your TTCing?

[WashingtonPromise]

Flava: I would be happy to get you a pic of the boys room. Let me just get a rake and a shovel (they have been playing with legos today). We have company today and gone tomorrow....maybe Monday :) Let me know how the Mucinex works, I don't think I can stomach another pill. My DH is fine with all his pills, too.....for the moment.

Kiris: Hope you get some pics of your scan next week.

Lola: Did the witch stay away?

I have not been able to find the Royal Jelly locally. Do you think I should just wait until next cycle or will it help this cycle at all?

[Hobbermittens]

Welcome Hobbermittens!!! There are a few here that are waiting. How long until your TTCing?

October. I think Flava is waiting until then too, and maybe a few others? THanks for letting me hang out here!

[Alexis2007]

WP-Did you check Walmart for the royal jelly? They have it at my local store. It's where I get all my supps lol. I've heard it can work pretty quick in like a week or two for ewcm. But may take 3 cycles to help egg quality.

[LolaInLove]

just a quick question, im on 1800mcg of folic acid, is that enough or should i take 500mcg more(my tabs are in 500mcg incraments plus prenatels 800mcg)

If you are intaking more sodium than normal, you need more because the sodium depletes the FA in your system....but 1800 should be good! I wouldn't go higher than 2000mcg personally. Hope you are doing ok, Jane!!!

[LolaInLove]

Oh I have another Q -got mucinex today but there is so many type no clue what we need.I got maximum strength 1200mg guaifenesin .It's says take 2/day. Is this ok or it really don't matter what type we take?

Yes, you want guifanesin, but I've never seen 1200mg before....I just have a 400mg kind but you can take up to 3 a day, so I guess 1200mg total. I guess the RDA on the bottle is what you should take!

[LolaInLove]

I will take 2/day because it says on the box. We need it for ewcm so only until O I guess.

Yes, you can take it AF-O, or just a dose on bd day, at least an hour before, if you don't feel like taking it for that long.

[LolaInLove]

Holy crap 22 weeks, I sure hope I'm not that unfortunate! I have to force myself to eat and when I do I feel like puking it back up. I am going to ask my Ob about it as I know there is a medication they can prescribe, I can't do this for much longer!

MS literally is pure torture....especially if you have it for long like TTC5. I had it so bad with #1 (from 5wks-16wks) that I lost 15lbs in the first trimester and my doctor was about to put me in the hospital. She didn't believe in fenegren or the anti-nausea drugs, so never tried that. Luckily, it lifted all of the sudden and I started eating like a madwoman. I could only put down a banana and a yogurt each day, and felt like I was about to hurl every waking moment. Kris, there are a few awesome tricks I learned and employed with #2 and kept it at bay very well: lots of lemon water (as if you aren't sick of that already from swaying, LOL), ginger ale and ginger candies/nibs, eat some crackers literally before you get out of bed....there are some new ones at the baby superstore they have now with ginger in them, lollipops and suckers, and the best thing I had was the SeaBands, these accupressure bands for your wrists that sailors wear. They are so popular for curbing MS now that they carry those at the baby stores, too. I hope you feel better soon, and SO glad you don't have the swine flu!!!!

[LolaInLove]

OH BALLZ, I just wrote the longest post and then hit something on my laptop and it went away. Frick. Anyway...

WP, you are sweet! For some reason, I thought you were talking about you going to school, but how awesome your kids get to be homeschooled AND live and work on a farm? Greatest childhood ever, in my opinion. I could only find RJ at my health foods store, but you may not want to worry about it at this point, you'd only have a week and a half or so before you O.

Alexis, glad you DH is ok and up for bding soon! I think my weight has leveled off, but I am making an effort to eat less fattening stuff and work out more. I look like I did after I had my girls, with the extra "padding" and yea, maybe a bit pg myself. Hopefully, we will get pg this month and not have to worry about it anymore! Good luck, looks like your O is coming soon! I would def bd every other day if you are up for it.....

Let's see: I did have AF today, so am CD1. I am starting to get a little freaked out, like I REALLY need to get pg in the next 2 months....I don't think it's good to be on Clomid for too long. I saw Atomic post about how it makes your cm hostile and wrecks your uterine lining, so I am thinking I need to get pg like now. I decided not to make DH do the sperm test. What's the point? Just $70 we have to pay and what would we do with the results? Just pump him full of more supps. I don't know, we can't afford IVF or any of that, so I figure money is better spent just getting a couple more supps. I looked up the current sperm boosting blends that lots of companies are carrying, and they are pretty much a multivitamin with a few extras in there, with maca and L-cartanine being the biggest two, so I'm giving that to him. I got us Spirulina also and am upping his CoQ10 to 200mg. So, we'll see what happens. I don't know what else to change up to just freaking get pg this month....

[Alexis2007]

Just got a +opk on CD 11?!??!! What?! We did dtd this morning. Should we do it again tomorrow morning and again Monday morning? I could O tomorrow or Monday. This is the earliest I've ever gotten a +opk, but I have O'ed on CD 12 and CD 13 before. Better to be safe than sorry I guess. My cm turned watery today (still has a white color to it though-kinda milky). And I can't even find my cervix right now lol.

Lola-I weigh as much right now as I did after DD1. I think I hold my weight well though as most of it is in my face and belly (well-that's where you can tell the most). I don't "look" like I weigh as much as I do, but I still do look fat. Especially in my belly lol. But I hope this is all of our magical month!!! Here's to all of us a BFP!!!

[daisyfay311]

Welcome Hobbermittens!

Lola, I think your plan sounds good. Totally agree with you on the test for dh, just hope you get pregnant this next cycle.

Alexis, I would probably dtd one more time probably tomorrow but that's just me.

I'm kind of disappointed with my cm this month. I've been looking for my big burst and it doesn't seem to be showing up. Well, I think it's here but it's not dripping out of me like usual, sorry for the tmi. But I have some and it's ew so fine, whatever. We dtd last night and I think I'm going to jump dh tonight and then again Monday night. Thinking I will probably O Tuesday morning-ish.

I was feeling kind of down about it today because I have been thinking about my bff's experience. She was running miles and miles every week, super in shape, loves dairy, eats cheese constantly, hates bananas, and dtd with her dh every day leading up to O, on O day, and the day after O and got a boy. It was her first and she didn't know anything about swaying but really, really wanted a girl. She is fine now but she so wants her next to be a girl and I don't want to tell her about swaying at all because she will probably think it's stupid given her experience. Blah.

[Kris217]

MS literally is pure torture....especially if you have it for long like TTC5. I had it so bad with #1 (from 5wks-16wks) that I lost 15lbs in the first trimester and my doctor was about to put me in the hospital. She didn't believe in fenegren or the anti-nausea drugs, so never tried that. Luckily, it lifted all of the sudden and I started eating like a madwoman. I could only put down a banana and a yogurt each day, and felt like I was about to hurl every waking moment. Kris, there are a few awesome tricks I learned and employed with #2 and kept it at bay very well: lots of lemon water (as if you aren't sick of that already from swaying, LOL), ginger ale and ginger candies/nibs, eat some crackers literally before you get out of bed....there are some new ones at the baby superstore they have now with ginger in them, lollipops and suckers, and the best thing I had was the SeaBands, these accupressure bands for your wrists that sailors wear. They are so popular for curbing MS now that they carry those at the baby stores, too. I hope you feel better soon, and SO glad you don't have the swine flu!!!!

Thanks for the tips Lola! I have a MS pill with ginger root and vit B6 and I also drink ginger beer, I don't know if I could stomach the lemon water again lol. I bought some crackers yesterday, tried them this morning but after I got out of bed. I will try before in the morning and see if that helps. I have these anti nausea wrist bands but they have a huge round button type thing on them and it digs into my wrist and it's really uncomfortable so I will look up the ones you mentioned :)

[TTC5]

Sorry AF came Lola :( xoxoxxo

[TTC5]

Holy crap 22 weeks, I sure hope I'm not that unfortunate! I have to force myself to eat and when I do I feel like puking it back up. I am going to ask my Ob about it as I know there is a medication they can prescribe, I can't do this for much longer!

Yes you can ask for pills or a shot of Maxalon, if you need to exhaggerate to get it (say you vomit all day long!) DO IT, it is safe. I had to get it!

[TTC5]

AFM - Please let me know if anyone needs details added/updated!! Maybe best to PM me :)

So, CD 1 for me (not TTC atm though) and I have started some weight loss shakes to help me shed some kilos! I am actually feeling SO much better about getting in shape before swaying. I have decided to also review what supps to take and my diet - I am not letting myself get so fat ever ever again! I am sure we can sway boy without putting on weight (well fat weight anyway, happy to gain if it is muscle!!) and getting fat and sloppy, lol!!!

[Kris217]

Yes you can ask for pills or a shot of Maxalon, if you need to exhaggerate to get it (say you vomit all day long!) DO IT, it is safe. I had to get it!

I don't throw up, I think my body hates it so much that I stop it from happening. I do have diarrhoea every morning though, I'd rather that than vomiting! I just feel so queezy it's horrible, I look very pale and I'm probably loosing weight.
Is the shot better than the pills?

[jane]

If you are intaking more sodium than normal, you need more because the sodium depletes the FA in your system....but 1800 should be good! I wouldn't go higher than 2000mcg personally. Hope you are doing ok, Jane!!!sorry af came:bighug:ive decided to take an extra 500mcg of folic acid which will take me to 2300mcg.i just want to change a few things around from my last attempt which didnt end up so good:sad:it will give it a month or so untill my next attempt and ive read that if you do get pregnant,to wean off after the 1st trimester.

[Flava]

Can I hang out with you ladies here? Or is this thread for people just TTC in August?

Hey hobber! sure you can hang here Im here too lol
I will start trying in Sept.!! Hope it wont take long...

[Flava]

Lola so sorry for damn AF:nono:

[Flava]

Jane- you can't take to much FA so it's ok! Im taking around 3800 or 4000 with the prenatal together. If you take 5000 you can have twins so Im not going there LOL.
Thanks for the info about FA and wean it of in the first trimester I had no clue!

[Flava]

Oh Kris you sound like me when Im pregnant! ehhh yuck so bad feeling...
It was so good with DD1 I had nothing at all! Not 1 day . Normal sick with DD2 and more with DD3 and horrible with DD4!
So all my was different I can't look at it like it's a girl or a boy for sure because it's so different LOL.

What good is for you that you don't have other kids to take care of so sick. OMG now that's hard to do. All I wanted is to lay on the sofa and go sleep but I had to take care, make food ( yuck) and so on.


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[Alexis2007]

Yeah, morning sickness means nothing about gender. With dd1 I was only sick in the mornings when I first woke up. With dd2, I just felt nauseous all day long! I think I threw up maybe 5 times with her. But I'd rather just throw up and get it over with than just feeling like I need to but can't, kwim? My sister was soooo sick with both her boys especially the last. She lost about 15lbs and I think she was sick the first 5-6 months too. She couldn't keep anything down. I was really worried about her (she lives in Maryland and I live in Alabama). He will be 1 next month and weighs only 19lbs. He has GERD and is having trouble gaining weight himself.

Anyway, I've tried phenegren and zofran for the nausea. I liked the phenegren. The zofran worked great got me constipated which, in turn, gave me hemmorhoids lol. Be careful there! ;)

[Flava]

Nothing worked for nausea for me! I try so many things even got some med from the doc (no clue about the name) but it did not worked.
I never tried the bracelet or lollipops but I don't think I could eat one back then. Plus it would be really hard to have a pop here because all the kids would like to take it from me, I sure the LO would cry for it. So I guess I can't even try that.

[daisyfay311]

Flava, that is an adorable hugs picture!

I had sort of lingering nausea with dd that got worse as the day went on. I had to sip on Gingerale all during the day at work while teaching and so basically everybody figured out I was expecting even when I wasn't ready to tell! So happy I have a helper teacher coming in my room this year so if I ever finally get pregnant I will have some help! Last time for me the exhaustion was so bad! I actually fell asleep one day while the students were outside at break.

[TTC5]

I don't throw up, I think my body hates it so much that I stop it from happening. I do have diarrhoea every morning though, I'd rather that than vomiting! I just feel so queezy it's horrible, I look very pale and I'm probably loosing weight.
Is the shot better than the pills?

It is yes! xx

Well I started the pill today just to be sure of no accidents while trying to get fit!

[Kris217]

Oh Kris you sound like me when Im pregnant! ehhh yuck so bad feeling...
It was so good with DD1 I had nothing at all! Not 1 day . Normal sick with DD2 and more with DD3 and horrible with DD4!
So all my was different I can't look at it like it's a girl or a boy for sure because it's so different LOL.

What good is for you that you don't have other kids to take care of so sick. OMG now that's hard to do. All I wanted is to lay on the sofa and go sleep but I had to take care, make food ( yuck) and so on.


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Thanks Flava, yes having to take care of others makes it so much harder. I have custody of my niece and 2 nephews and my partner has a cast on her leg so she can't do much cleaning and so on. I'm lucky the kids are older and can make their own meals but they still look at me laying on the couch white as a ghost and ask "are you cooking us dinner tonight?". Umm no I am not lol. I will be calling my Ob this morning to see if they can give me something to ease it up a little, it's just unbearable.

[Kris217]

It is yes! xx

Well I started the pill today just to be sure of no accidents while trying to get fit!

Thanks girl!
Oh good idea about the pill, your luck you'd get pregnant while not even trying! haha. Seems you're doing well with the diet and exercise, I think once you get to your goal weight you'll be in a great frame of mind to start trying again :)

[skrimpy]

Jane - Congrats on the BFP!!

WashingtonP - ((hugs)) on AF arriving... I was able to increase the length of my LP by upping the amount of good fats I was getting (coconut oil, full-fat dairy, etc.)

Begonia - I really like the Hypnobabies program and I've used the CD's with my last two babies. I have done the Pink Kit and Hypnobabies for both and have been really pleased.

Lola - you know you're gonna get pregnant with a sweet little sticky baby ((hugs)) - and it will be worth the waiting <3

I am loving hearing about seeing heartbeats and little beans and feeling little flutters ladies!

Re Morning Sickness: I have found that the m/s doesn't seem to correlate with gender for me... it just seems to get worse with each baby lol. What worked best for me was taking time to eat (I ate slowly), eating very small bites, and I ate what sounded good to me (and had protein).

AAM - I am not happy right now... I think AF has returned and Honor is only 11 weeks old :( I have never had a cycle earlier than 7 months. Honor is exclusively bf, takes no paci, sleeps with me, etc. The only thing I can figure is that she doesn't nurse long - only a few minutes at a time. But she does nurse really frequently (every hour or so at least). But I've been bleeding since Friday and it's pretty heavy, too. I started temping Sat morning. DH and I had decided not to TTA once my cycles started, but we both agree that we are NOT ready for another one yet... so we will use NFP/FAM for now if this is cycles.

I am really bummed as I still have like 25lbs of weight to lose from my pregnancy with Honor and I don't want to get pg while losing that. I also really want to let Honor be my baby for now - if I were to get pg my milk would dry up :(

I'm sort of in shock but can't think of any other reason for bleeding to have started :( But my baby is only 11 weeks :(

[TTC5]

Thanks girl!
Oh good idea about the pill, your luck you'd get pregnant while not even trying! haha. Seems you're doing well with the diet and exercise, I think once you get to your goal weight you'll be in a great frame of mind to start trying again :)

LOL that is what hubby said! Yes can't wait to just get this weight off!

[TTC5]

Jane - Congrats on the BFP!!

WashingtonP - ((hugs)) on AF arriving... I was able to increase the length of my LP by upping the amount of good fats I was getting (coconut oil, full-fat dairy, etc.)

Begonia - I really like the Hypnobabies program and I've used the CD's with my last two babies. I have done the Pink Kit and Hypnobabies for both and have been really pleased.

Lola - you know you're gonna get pregnant with a sweet little sticky baby ((hugs)) - and it will be worth the waiting <3

I am loving hearing about seeing heartbeats and little beans and feeling little flutters ladies!

Re Morning Sickness: I have found that the m/s doesn't seem to correlate with gender for me... it just seems to get worse with each baby lol. What worked best for me was taking time to eat (I ate slowly), eating very small bites, and I ate what sounded good to me (and had protein).

AAM - I am not happy right now... I think AF has returned and Honor is only 11 weeks old :( I have never had a cycle earlier than 7 months. Honor is exclusively bf, takes no paci, sleeps with me, etc. The only thing I can figure is that she doesn't nurse long - only a few minutes at a time. But she does nurse really frequently (every hour or so at least). But I've been bleeding since Friday and it's pretty heavy, too. I started temping Sat morning. DH and I had decided not to TTA once my cycles started, but we both agree that we are NOT ready for another one yet... so we will use NFP/FAM for now if this is cycles.

I am really bummed as I still have like 25lbs of weight to lose from my pregnancy with Honor and I don't want to get pg while losing that. I also really want to let Honor be my baby for now - if I were to get pg my milk would dry up :(

I'm sort of in shock but can't think of any other reason for bleeding to have started :( But my baby is only 11 weeks :(

It could be retained products. xox

[WashingtonPromise]

Hi ladies....

Lola: Sorry about AF....how you hanging in there? No testing for DH? Are you trying anything new this cycle? I know you don't have much room in your pill box :)

Begonia: Is your scan this week?

Alexis: You are close to O right? How is DH?

Not a whole lot going on with my cycle.....I should O late next week. We had a busy weekend with playdates and company. We also got up early Sat to pick figs at a friends house....hope they're boy friendly because I ate tons of them..

The few ladies on FF boy swaying board that got back to me had quit the boy diet to conceive!!! 2 or 3 said they had been TTCing for a long time (over a year). They kept up the supp, but dropped the diet....interesting. Do you guys think it could have the stress of it all? Extra weight? Who knows? I wish the rest of the ladies would respond.

Edited to say.... I think they were on the IG diet.

[begonia]

WP Figs are very boy friendly, I believe! And delicious ... really I think any fruits/veg are great for TTC boy if you're going by the "more nutrients = boy" approach, which I buy into. I tried my best to stay away from "empty" foods. My scan is a week from Thursday! I'm super excited to see the bean again :)

Very interesting about the FF ladies. So they dropped IG diet but kept the supps. I wonder what their diet ended up being then? Hmmm. Mysterious ...

Lola are you back on the clomid yet this cycle? I saw Atomics post about the long term potential effects. I would definitely check that out with your doc and get her thoughts; I'd never heard that re: Clomid before, but I do trust Atomic's thoughts too.

TTC5 yay for birth control :bigsmile: I think it is SMART to do if you're not ready to get pg again!

Skrimpy that does seem very early for your cycle to return; FX it is not in fact AF. Though I don't know what else it could be? Have you talked to your doc yet about it? My DD2 nursed the same way ... frequent and fast. It drove me nuts. She's still that way though as a 2 y.o when it comes to food. Always wants just enough to last her an hour or two, LOL, never a big meal.

AFM this is our last week before school starts for DD1! So just trying to get in some good quality time and plan a couple fun things to do. I'm super excited for her; I really think she is going to love kindy :cool:

[begonia]

OH and I figured I'd chime in to agree that morning sickness has definitely not indicated gender for me; DD1 I got sick every.single.day from 7-15 weeks. DD2 I felt amazing. I didn't have a day of sickness, no pains, etc. It was truly awesome.

This one's been just an odd mix... haven't gotten sick but definitely had nausea early on, seems to have subsided but the food aversions are strong and numerous. I'm so tired of those. I dream of eating a full, well-rounded meal again.

[cemas]

Hi All,
i am cd24...no O yet!!
looks like my body tried to O twice but did not...had EWCM on/off and some darker opks but then gone.....

i am reading that grapefruit juice might help bring abt O early? anyone having any info on it??
Should i start with a glass from today?

i was a lil stressed last week regardig other issues...

Hope all are doing well....been really busy at my end....not able to read much

[Alexis2007]

WP-yep today is O day for me! Hoping this is it! If not though, I am quitting the diet. I'm tired of it. I will try to keep up the supps though. Even though nothing has worked to give me ewcm...so idk! This will be my 5th full month on the diet so yeah I'm tired of it!

DH had been feeling better but complained of his back hurting. Could be another kidney stone or just a backache from working so much lately lol.

[WashingtonPromise]

Okay, I stopped by quick to tell you ladies that I measured my hips, thighs, and belly today (I have weighed myself too) and I have the exact same measurements as when I was 3 months postpartum with my last child!!! It was enough to make me want to cry. My bigger clothes have been getting tight and I just wanted to make sure I wasn't getting too big before even getting pg....too late. I just don't know what to do. If I ask DH, I know what he will say....just start your cardio again and eat normal. I have never had a weight problem before and getting a little worried, I guess.

:hair:

Do you guys think it would be bad to cut out breads and do a (little) cardio (on a mini-trampoline) or something?

Okay, venting over....

[WashingtonPromise]

Good Luck with your Oing Alexis.

[begonia]

Hi Cemas! I drank a big glass of grapefruit juice every morning. I love the stuff; it didn't seem to impact my O but now that I think about it I did O a day earlier a couple of cycles. So maybe that contributed? FX yours comes soon and even more FX you get pg this cycle!

Alexis hope it is a good strong O and this is the cycle for you!!!

WP, I'm so sorry you're getting the side effects of the boy-diet! I do think adding in some cardio and cutting back on breads would be fine. Did you do much cardio before when you got pg with your girls? I did a TON before getting pg with my girls so for the sway I cut that by about 75% and added in weights. Are you doing any weights at all? Or strength training in general is good, like push-ups, sit-ups, etc for gaining muscle, which might help some!

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: I do 35 sit-ups and 65 squats everyday and then leg exercises and jumping jacks every other day. I know this sounds funny, but normally I don't exercise.....doing all the farm and home chores keeps me very fit. Even when conceiving all my girls and two boys, I was doing no cardio. Maybe I will post on the TTC boy thread......

[Im4blue]

Helllooooo girls!!!!!!!!:wave:
I am sooooooo excited to be here with you all!!! A very very special thank you to begonia for the invite to join you girls!! My name is Heather, you can call me Heath or whatever you want,lol. I am 34 years old.:hide: I am obviously TTC :ttcboy:. I would have a 10 year old son but he passed away in 2001 at the age of 2 month to SIDS. I LOVED having a son and want to have that experience again. My DH and I have been TTC since Nov. 2009. We were able to get pg in Dec 2009 but lost our little bean at 7 weeks gestation. We have been swaying since Feb 2011 and have recently (2months ago) started hardcore. I am on FF but wanted to be part of a forum specific to swaying. I joined IG but either my titles aren't "catchy enough" or I have some type of disease. Nobody seems to respond to my posts. LOL!

Looking forward to meeting and getting to know everyone!!
:HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH::HH:
P.S. GD has MUCH better emoticons than FF! hee hee!

[Im4blue]

WP.......I am in the same position as you. I get my work out at work. I do alot of lifting in a day. I also work very long hours in the week. TBH, when I get home I have no ambition. Maybe we could buddy up and be inspiration to each other. Even if it's just light weights. Heck even soup cans might work, lol!

[CapricornAquarius]

Hi 2 All,
Thought I'd say this is our first month of ttc a :ttcboy:, im 7dpo and my fingers are crossed real hard.

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

[Flava]

cemas- I don't know what teh grapefruit do to O but it's on boy diet so you can try it out.
Hope you get O soon!

[Im4blue]

Capricorn Aquarius.........You are only a day behind me!!!!! :fx: for the both of us!!!

[Flava]

WP-yep today is O day for me! Hoping this is it! If not though, I am quitting the diet. I'm tired of it. I will try to keep up the supps though. Even though nothing has worked to give me ewcm...so idk! This will be my 5th full month on the diet so yeah I'm tired of it!

DH had been feeling better but complained of his back hurting. Could be another kidney stone or just a backache from working so much lately lol.

GL ! Hope you get that bfp this time. Atomic says the diet it most important and others who just took sups and did not do diet all got opposites on IG. Now I don't know this just read it in her post. So Im scared to stop the diet ...but so hated I also started in April and Im damn fat!!!:mad:

[Flava]

WP _ Im sure you can cut bread and do a little cardio! Like I said Im sick of this fat too!

[Flava]

Im4blue - welcome ! This is a good place everyone is nice here and you can post and ask what ever you want.
Forget IG they don't reply to your post because no1 is there anymore.lol
Im so sorry for your lost must be so hard to have a baby and then lost him.
hugs

[Flava]

Hi 2 All,
Thought I'd say this is our first month of ttc a :ttcboy:, im 7dpo and my fingers are crossed real hard.

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

GL hope you get a bfp too!

[CapricornAquarius]

Capricorn Aquarius.........You are only a day behind me!!!!! :fx: for the both of us!!!

Yay fingers crossed for you to, dont you hate the 2ww, grrr!!!

Thanks Flava I hope so to.

[Im4blue]

Flava.............Thank you for the warm welcome!! I am in love with this site already and I've only been here a few days. =]
Thank you for the condolences as well. It does suck but.........I have to play the hand I've been dealt. I am just soooooo thrilled and honored to have been chosen as HIS mommy, even if it was for such a short time. I will cherish that time FOREVER!!! I can't wait to tell his siblings all about him!!! =]

CA...........I wanted to throw my thermometer this morning. I temp vaginally and when it started beeping I looked at it and thought to myself......."LIAR"!!!!! I can't wait to get my BFP..........the minute I do, I am having a BBT bonfire!!!!! LOL!

[Alexis2007]

GL ! Hope you get that bfp this time. Atomic says the diet it most important and others who just took sups and did not do diet all got opposites on IG. Now I don't know this just read it in her post. So Im scared to stop the diet ...but so hated I also started in April and Im damn fat!!!:mad:

Flava-I just don't know what else to do. I had ewcm in May, but nothing since!! I don't understand that. I'm so lost with this right now. And I'm fat lol!

[Kris217]

Got Maxalon today, praying just praying it helps!

[TTC5]

Got Maxalon today, praying just praying it helps!

Oh good!!!!!

[TTC5]

Flava-I just don't know what else to do. I had ewcm in May, but nothing since!! I don't understand that. I'm so lost with this right now. And I'm fat lol!

What supps are you taking? Are you doing bsf's???

[ELP]

i am reading that grapefruit juice might help bring abt O early? anyone having any info on it??
Should i start with a glass from today?


I think the grapefruit juice was to help with ewcm:agree:

:welcome: To all the new ladies:)

[Princess of Pink]

I think waiting to start TTC is hell!! I think it may even be worse than the 2ww to be honest. Spending hours researching supplements, diet, blah, blah, blah. Obsessing over what you are doing, changing things all the time, buying a million news supps. I am not so much obsessing about swaying blue...more about getting super healthy and fertile and nutrient enriched, but man it's doing my head in. :worry:

How many supps can one person take to be super healthy...I keep finding new ones...when do you stop?? Then you worry that when they all mix they may be bad for you or have a bad reaction or something?? And I have started temping...but that takes 2 mins a day and isn't entertaining me enough, so I only record it once at the right time...but I now take my tempt 2-3 times a day just for the hell of it...to practice...maybe just to entertain myself while I wait for november?? And the ovulation tests...well I take one every day just for something else to do...lucky they are cheap and I have HEAPS of them...I just like seeing 2 lines....a left over fragment from my mad, obsessive compulsive POAS addict days!! You would think working fulltime and raising 5 kids would be enough to keep one busy, but apparently not!! I think I need a baby just to entertain myself :giggle:

Anyone else out there as psycho as me?? I have even started to plan the bedding and room incase I get another girl!!! It's all picked. I think I have issues...maybe there is a pill for that too???

[begonia]

Lm4! I am so sorry to hear about your loss; I love that you plan to tell his future siblings about him. My mom's 1st born was stillborn and she made sure my brother and I knew we had another soul sibling out there. :hugs: I'm glad you came over to the chit chat thread :happy: IG is pretty much a ghost town now... I pop on from time to time to see if any of our old crew checks in but I think most of us are here or other sites now. I like it Soooooooo much better here. The ladies on this thread in particular are FAB so welcome! LOL about the BBT bonfire ... I never bothered with temping. I just did OPKs and checking the good ol' CP/CM.

Pop, you crack me up this am!!! FWIW though I 100% get what you're saying! Re: the supps, I think Lola is the Queen o' Healthy Supps :princess: (yay! 1st time I used that smiley!) and she can likely offer you good tips. She focused heavily on things that were for improving health in general, like antioxidants, healthy oils, etc. Personally I didn't take many so don't feel like I can offer too much, other than to say I had great luck with EPO. I also took fish oil, prenatal, d3, and wheatgrass.

So TTC5 do you have a timeline for TTC now or are you just taking it day by day?

Kris FX the Maxalon helps! With my DD1 I tried everything ... zofran, sea bands, eating before getting up, etc and nothing ever worked for me. It is indeed miserable, so I really hope you get some relief!

Alexis what's the word, are you officially in the 2WW? How do you feel about this month's attempt?

WP I forgot that with the farm OF COURSE you're getting lots of physical activity. If the weight is bugging you I would just go with cutting back on breads, like you suggested. I tried to get almost all of my carbs in the forms of fruits and veggies.

Welcome to Capricorn Aquarius! I'm going to have to shorten that one :cool: FX for you and Lm4 to get your BFPs!!

Ok friends have to run, hope everyone has a great morning (or night)!

[WashingtonPromise]

Welcome heath and capicorn !!!!

POP: LOL....you crack me up!!!! I know, I have 6 children and homeschool and still manage to spend too much time on here. I think I should move my computer to a closet or something. I don't use OPK all day, but I do think "I should be taking that supplement, too" and then my(and Dh's) pill box gets fuller. I don't know where to draw the line.....I guess when we see 2 lines on a test!!!

Flava: Thanks for the advice, I think I will add a little cardio. I bought one of those mini trampolines after having DD4 and never got around to using it....do you think it would be too hard on a potential beany in the 2WW?

Heath: Don't worry, if I ever post outside the chit-chat thread they get lost in the shuffle.....the ladies here are always great about trying to help. I do weights everyday with my squats and leg exercises, but I just don't think it is enough.

I asked hubby last night if he would rather me gain more weight or have a girl and of course he danced around the subject and finally said I looked fine. Easy for him to say, he started doing my same weight program and is looking much trimmer than me, but of course he isn't eaing every hour either :)

It should be interesting the next couple weeks....Alexis just Oed....and Heather, Capicorn, Lola, and me are all a few days apart....BFP here we come!!!!

[manainny]

Hi Ladies, I have been following you for months and would like to join you all as the date for starting preparations for TTC is getting close and I have so many questions. I will start with the most important first. I have started adjusting my diet already, eating more nuts, using more salt and working out with weights but should I start the supps while still on my last month of the pill, or should I start supps, complete diet and charting all at the same time? I am worried about getting pregnant before the changes have had a chance to work. DH has given the go ahead to TTC after Dec.

manainny
♥ swayer in waiting
♥ TTC DC #3
♥ sea salt on everything, red meat, tomatoes (fresh and canned), salted nuts, bananas, dried apricots, raisins, potatoes, cereal every morning, 2000mg folic acid, 1000mg fish oil, wheatgrass.

[LolaInLove]

Well, hello chicas!

I had the busiest day ever yesterday....my girls started school, and of course, my little reincarnation of Chris Farley (DD2), poor little thing, just pukes all over the porch while I am taking their "1st day of school" pic. So that was fun. And I had to work for about 12 hours. And wake up 2 hours earlier than normal for school now.

Anywho.....Begonia, I did see that info about Clomid. I am only going to take it for 4 months max, and my doctor told me there is no harm in 6 months or less. I am on round 2 now, just started. I get so hot when I take it, like massive hot flashes. And B, thanks for the info on the Cohen's diet, too....I forgot to post about that....I will look it up in a minute.

OK, this diet/weight thing: first of all, that is VERY interesting that the ladies on FF had to drop the IG diet. Personally, I think the IG boy diet is absolutely horrid, WAY too much sodium and no dairy? I just couldn't do it, and that is where I gained the majority of this 35lbs. I do actually feel like too much may hinder fertility. Consider this: when I was working out like a madwoman and at my fittest, I got pg when avoiding, and now, I am trying like a madwoman and can't do it. I am very much set on dropping the majority of this diet like, now. I think I am going to continue to eat little bits all day, and try to eat carbs and protein, but there will be no more steak and potatoes and the like. I know how all of you feel with this, it is so hard to be heavier and know you are doing it on purpose. I just fear that this weight MAY be the thing hindering me at this point, and I just don't have the time to wait anymore.

I think this whole year and journey has taught me that we just want a baby now, be it a girl or a boy, and we need to really focus on just getting pregnant and staying pregnant. I don't have the luxury of swaying anymore, really.

But I will keep taking my supps, and thanks for the nod, Begonia LOL....you are right, I do take a bunch for healthy and fertility in general, not too many "boy ones" although those types do tend to sway boy. POP, I don't know if you can take too many supps....I am sure you can....I will tell you that I feel great, no illness for a long time and aside from the extra weight, I do feel very healthy and sleep well, etc. Anyway, thanks for the love everyone. I've got about 9-10 days before we give it another go, so trying to remain positive.

Alexis, hope you did it this month! Nice to see you over in the 2ww thread!

Daisy, what supps are you taking? I kwym about your friend. I did tell my good friend about swaying as she just found out she's having her 2nd girl and they only wanted 2. Now it's up to 3, but she's in the same boat as many of us. She thought it was cool, I bet she'll join someday! She's only 25 wks with #2 now though. But, that is interesting that she did a really good girl sway in essence and still got a boy. I bet you're right, she wouldn't believe it.

Begonia, my DH is actually starting school now! And our season too.....he will be very busy this year, but he can do it. I'm proud of him. I hate that he is retiring from dancing, but you know, it has a short life span like pro athletics do. His body feels 58 and he's only 38. But I do toy with the idea of med school.....my bff is on the admin committee and a professor of anatomy and she says they would take me in a heartbeat with my experience and passion, etc, so she keeps pushing me to do it and heck, she may prevail sometime. I want to get over this baby hurdle first! Either have one and give him or her a couple of years to get into a preschool, or not have one and start the change sooner. I don't know. I do love what I do, but the arts are a HARD field to work in.....we all love it so much, but you just work your ass off and don't make that great of a living doing it. I would love to show my girls that they can do anything....even go be a doctor when you are 40....not to mention have a better paycheck to give them a better life.

TTC5, so glad you are losing weight and feeling good, sweetie!!!! I bet you are going to rip on the ttc scene like a hot mama and get pg immediately!

Flava, are you sick now? I am so sorry, hun! Hope you feel better soon!

Cemas, what's up, girl? I don't know much about grapefruit juice either, but have you tried Clomid before? Sounds like you need a boost to get those eggs popping out. I bet you have, but just sayin.' Hope you are doing well otherwise. I know, this has been forever for us, no?

HELLO and welcome, I'm4Blue! I am also so sorry to hear about your horrific loss, but I love your attitude and will be pulling for you! You've come to the right place, we are a great group here.

HELLO and welcome to CapricornAquarius, also! Best of luck to you, girl!

Nice to have some more newbies in the group!

TINK, where have you been? Miss you!!!

[LolaInLove]

Hi Ladies, I have been following you for months and would like to join you all as the date for starting preparations for TTC is getting close and I have so many questions. I will start with the most important first. I have started adjusting my diet already, eating more nuts, using more salt and working out with weights but should I start the supps while still on my last month of the pill, or should I start supps, complete diet and charting all at the same time? I am worried about getting pregnant before the changes have had a chance to work. DH has given the go ahead to TTC after Dec.

manainny
♥ swayer in waiting
♥ TTC DC #3
♥ sea salt on everything, red meat, tomatoes (fresh and canned), salted nuts, bananas, dried apricots, raisins, potatoes, cereal every morning, 2000mg folic acid, 1000mg fish oil, wheatgrass.

HI and welcome to you! I would go ahead and start supps and diet asap, I don't think it matters with the bcp. However, if you are not ttc until after December, PLEASE heed the fat gripes here on our board and don't overdo it with the diet! I am going to give this advice to any new swayer.....the lbs can add on really quick, especially if you do it for 3+months. Your diet changes sound good overall, just be careful not to overdo it on the fat and calories, because I'd hate to see you in our camp with looking 3 months postpartum before you even begin.

Sorry, I may be debbie downer here, but I think many of the other ladies will agree with me to take the diet slow and easy.

Your supps look good and wishing you the best of luck! Glad you are here!

[manainny]

Thanks for the warm welcome and the warning Lola. I did want to lose a bit of weight before TTC so I started on the 30 day shred. I have not lost a pound in a month though, but I am getting stronger. My priority is to TTC rather than slim down as time is passing quickly and I don't want another large age gap, DD1 and DD2 are 5 years apart.

[LolaInLove]

I hear ya, Manainny. Stronger is good, that is supposed to increase your testosterone as you may have read. I think you can do the diet and not gain a lot of weight, it just takes eating lots of little healthy things and protein all day versus eating a big egg and bacon dish in the morning and then a burger and potatoes at night, kwim? When we were on IG, we used to do the latter, thinking that increasing sodium and potassium were the most important things. But you are on the right track. My youngest, DD2 will be 7 years older than a baby we conceived right now, that's a big gap!

[Flava]

Got Maxalon today, praying just praying it helps!

Yeyyy hope it's helps!

[Flava]

I think waiting to start TTC is hell!! I think it may even be worse than the 2ww to be honest. Spending hours researching supplements, diet, blah, blah, blah. Obsessing over what you are doing, changing things all the time, buying a million news supps. I am not so much obsessing about swaying blue...more about getting super healthy and fertile and nutrient enriched, but man it's doing my head in. :worry:

How many supps can one person take to be super healthy...I keep finding new ones...when do you stop?? Then you worry that when they all mix they may be bad for you or have a bad reaction or something?? And I have started temping...but that takes 2 mins a day and isn't entertaining me enough, so I only record it once at the right time...but I now take my tempt 2-3 times a day just for the hell of it...to practice...maybe just to entertain myself while I wait for november?? And the ovulation tests...well I take one every day just for something else to do...lucky they are cheap and I have HEAPS of them...I just like seeing 2 lines....a left over fragment from my mad, obsessive compulsive POAS addict days!! You would think working fulltime and raising 5 kids would be enough to keep one busy, but apparently not!! I think I need a baby just to entertain myself :giggle:

Anyone else out there as psycho as me?? I have even started to plan the bedding and room incase I get another girl!!! It's all picked. I think I have issues...maybe there is a pill for that too???

Exactly! Waiting to ttc sucks!!! That's why I try next month already. I wanted to starts in Oct. but started all this in April and so tired and fat from it!!! Plus Im not lucky so I think no first try bfp for me.
Im also taking a gazillion sups!!! And I use cbefm test and the smiley face test so it's not cheap so I can't even test every day all day! ok just sick of it...the worst part for me to be freaking fat!!!

[Flava]

WP-other work out in the 2ww so Im sure it's ok to do so.

[Flava]

manainny- welcome here!!
Lola- Im not sick ...hmmm what did I posted ?LOL
Im also taking a LOT of healthy sups and DH too. Hope it will help us out! I also wish to stop eating much , like meat , potato so on but Im scared . And thinking why stop now when I suppose to try next month?
But the veggie and fruit and juices are so much money already! Oh and the sups we take omg if anyone read our sup list you know how much.

[Flava]

Im taking mucinex for days now but don't see that I have more ewcm from it...so if I don't see improvement this month I better don't bother with it next month??
Also taking fertile cm but the same , no change from it.
I need more ewcm so it cd 12 hope I see more in the next days because if not I just don't know what to do.:think:

[LolaInLove]

manainny- welcome here!!
Lola- Im not sick ...hmmm what did I posted ?LOL
Im also taking a LOT of healthy sups and DH too. Hope it will help us out! I also wish to stop eating much , like meat , potato so on but Im scared . And thinking why stop now when I suppose to try next month?
But the veggie and fruit and juices are so much money already! Oh and the sups we take omg if anyone read our sup list you know how much.

I don't know, I think I got that you were sick from your post, it was a handful of pages back. Well, good thing you aren't!!!! I know, I feel the same way about giving up the diet, I hate to do it before an attempt.....maybe we should stick it out another few weeks and if a bfn, then we can modify it to not be so fattening. And I also spend a FORTUNE on supps....that's why I can't afford any new fat clothes, LOL! Probably a good $150 a month. Some of my antioxidant ones are not cheap!!! So, are you trying in September, right? The cycle after this one?

[Flava]

Oh 1 more thing I have ewcm but also mixed with creamy white and have no clue what to put in for cm in FF?? So I just don't do it. How would you call this type of cm?:worry:

[daisyfay311]

Welcome im4blue, CapricornAquarius, and manainny!! Join right in, swaying is driving everybody crazy so it's nice to have a big support system, lol. :-)

Lola, I am taking epo, fish oil, gelatin, folic acid, and Vit E. Doing bsd too. I used to take L'arg but gave that up.

I was starting to worry that I wasn't going to get my big burst of cm this month but it definitely showed up, just was a lot thinner than usual, must be the Robitussin. Anyway I am thinking I will O today or tomorrow. I haven't been keeping obsessive track because I am _trying_ to be calm. I know, right? *rolls eyes* We have thrown timing out the window especially after hearing my bff talk about having a boy after dtd every day for like a week. So we dtd Friday and Saturday and then yesterday and probably again today. DH is having the fricking time of his life, lol, and I am sore! Sorry tmi but I guess in swaying there is no tmi. :-) My diet has been full of nuts and whole grain bread and V8 and fruit juice and red meat and potatoes and coconut water and salty chips and raisins and Wheaties like atomic used to eat and I am just hoping that works.

I am getting to the point where I am so fat and my skin is so broken out I am just dreaming about being done with pregnancy so I can get skinny again and go on bc pills so my skin will be good. Ugh. So hope next summer I will working out like a mad woman with dd and my new baby ds at my side.

[daisyfay311]

WP, ditto on the weights. I would avoid the cardio for now and just strengthen and tone those muscles. Boy friendly and can help you feel better if you are down on yourself.

Alexis, have you tried flaxseed oil? I think that and epo did the best for my cm. But I have been doing everything to increase cm and I noticed in May I had gobs, like falling out of me, (of course, I got a YI and couldn't try, still makes me mad!) and since then I have had ewcm but not NEARLY as much. I was on antibiotics so maybe that made a difference but my point is sometimes there just seems to be more than usual and other times less and I am not sure why. Maybe bsd or bsf dries it up? I have not done the bsf, we are just sticking with preseed here. Anyway, it's not a reason to give up on the diet though! Diet is most important! I would hate to see you lose that. Maybe not do it super strict but I still think it is important. I am not counting mineral levels obsessively anymore because I just couldn't do that anymore but I still try to eat the boy friendly foods.

[Flava]

I don't know, I think I got that you were sick from your post, it was a handful of pages back. Well, good thing you aren't!!!! I know, I feel the same way about giving up the diet, I hate to do it before an attempt.....maybe we should stick it out another few weeks and if a bfn, then we can modify it to not be so fattening. And I also spend a FORTUNE on supps....that's why I can't afford any new fat clothes, LOL! Probably a good $150 a month. Some of my antioxidant ones are not cheap!!! So, are you trying in September, right? The cycle after this one?

Yes next month but Im soooo sooooo scared to do it! Im really just petrified!!!:nails: If I get a bfp then because of that . I will think for sure I know I think it's a girl. And if no bfp( most likely not , right?) then Im will be scared to try again and more sups, more diet ect.
I wanted Oct. but tired of it all and DH want's to try next month.( he is also taking millions sups poor thing)

I want to just eat more fruit/veggies but if I don't eat other things Im hungry still! And because atomic said we can't feel hungry or our BS is not even I eat more things...:think:
I already think I screw this up for sure because I still feel hungry and still can't do the 30 min. breakfast every day!:mad:

[Alexis2007]

TTC5- I'm taking EPO, fish oil, B6, B12, folic acid and prenatals. No bsf, we've been using Preseed.

Begonia-I'm not sure how I feel about my attempt. We dtd 3 days in a row to cover the most fertile times. I'm very disappointed in my cm!! The best I got was milky thin cm the 2 days before O. On O day it was creamy! Ugh!

Daisy-haven't tried flaxseed yet. Just EPO and fish oil. Can the bsd dry up cm? Hmm...hadn't thought of that. I'm taking in plenty if water though. Idk.

I tried the green tea this time. 1 cup per day. Yuck! I just think that knowing my luck, once I get off the diet, I'll get ewcm and get pregnant lol. I'm pretty sure this is it for me with the diet. I can't take anymore and DH is tired of spending the money for all the extras. Of course I'll still try to eat healthy foods.

I just hope this is my month! We actually dtd on O day this time lol. Hadn't been able to do that before for some reason or another. Y'all keep your fingers crossed for me!! 1dpo today!!! Long 2ww ahead!!

Welcome to all the newbies!!! Good luck!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Wow, busy ladies...

Alexis: Congrats on the 2WW, hopfully you will be the start to a huge string of BFP!!!

Lola: Kind of odd that we all hit the wall at the same time with the diet/weight gain. I hear you on the new clothes. Hubby said the same thing...."With all the money we save on expensive food and supp, you can get some new mat. clothes." Something to look forward to I guess. Were you in tears on their first day of school? I know I would be.

Flava:I feel the same way. I upped my veges at lunch and now 20 minutes later....starving!!! I have got to tweak this before my O date.

DD4 is stinky....gotta run.

[Tink18]

So Keith has really been doing his part on his diet and eating his "hearty" foods. I am really impressed with his dedication to this. If i don't make his lunch for work he will come home and report to me what he ate. It's too funny. And I have been cooking him some awesome meals. Lots of steak and tri tips! Need more potatoes though! Anyway, It got me thinking, After talking with a friend lightly about this since we aren't telling anyone our plan. Do you think its more important the Man eats hearty or the woman or both? Because as the story goes, they say the man chooses the sex, and if we the woman just make the "environment" the correct PH we should be good to go? as my friend put it. So what are your thoughts? Obviously I am still doing my part but it did make some sense to me. But if some husbands arent on board with the diet then it would make sense why this wouldn't work...yes?...babble babble.

anyhooooooo................IM GETTTINGGGGGGG sooooooooooooooooooooooooo closse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Im4blue]

Hey All!!! I'm sneaking on while working! LOL!! My new addiction! LOL!! I went to the store over lunch and bought 6lbs of bananas. They were on sale for $0.33/lb. I also got more multi grain english muffins, eggs and bacon.

I will be back on after work to catch up with all of you!! ♥

Hoping everyone is having a MARVELOUS day! =)

[3Pink1Blue]

Hey ladies, after going back 12+ pages I decided screw it I'm not catching up I'm just jumping back in lol.

Welcome to the newbies! You will love it here, best ladies around!

Daisy- I hear ya on the sore, I have always been a lube using girl so just working with just what I was producing, even though a ton, left me a bit sore after each round of attempts.

Alexis- try a little lemon and honey in the green tea, it's yummy! Woohoo for 2ww, fx!

Flava- can't believe you attempt is so close!!

Tink- the diet is important for you both but more for you. Yes he needs to supply healthy sperm but you need to provide an environment where the male fetus has a chance of survival, remember nutrient rich feast = boy, famine = girl. Many women with a naturally low pH have boys, Atomic's diet got her a boy even in prime girl range, it's not the major thing to concern yourself with.

Im4blue- love your shopping trip, simply perfect!

Well ladies, dd3 had her Pinkalicious party and we made the big announcement. For those not familiar with Pinkalicious it's a really cute book about a girl who eats too many pink cupcakes and turns pink, she has no choice but to eat a bunch of green foods to turn normal again. We served pink/red foods and everything in the treat bags was green. Dd3 said it was the best party ever, love that kid! Anyway the big announcement, as people were arriving I definitely got some funny looks as I haven't seen them in a month and am definitely extra round in the midsection. As soon as everyone arrived dh announced it and his mom was really weird. Sitting right next to my bil and his pregnant gf (no one is happy about this) kept saying this is so wonderful, I'm so excited, etc. My BFF thought she saw the gf crying, wish I could say I felt bad but I don't. She's a lazy, awful person and a horrible mother we all wish they'd never had their first dc let alone have any more. Dh's other brother and his wife and dh's dad said nothing. Their lives are falling apart while we are blissfully happy, they can't be happy unless they think they are doing better then us. My fam and friends are thrilled so we really couldn't care less. We refuse to let their drama affect our happiness, especially since all the stuff they've given us crap about over the years is now biting them in the ass. We don't waste money, my inlaws are about to lose their house and my bil and sil are paying the bills thanks to her parents. They treat dh like a second class citizen for his office job (he's a high ranking manager) while they work construction. The recession has torpedoed the housing market so while they are struggling to work dh just got a raise and the executive bonus. Bil and his wife give me crap for being no fun and too hard on our kids while they have no rules and give them everything. My kids excel in school, are grateful and polite. Their kids are rude, demanding and barely on level at school. Etc, etc, etc. Oh and for every lb I've gained sil has gained 2 so she's still way fatter then me, evil I know but it makes me happy :bigsmile:

[LolaInLove]

Yes next month but Im soooo sooooo scared to do it! Im really just petrified!!!:nails: If I get a bfp then because of that . I will think for sure I know I think it's a girl. And if no bfp( most likely not , right?) then Im will be scared to try again and more sups, more diet ect.
I wanted Oct. but tired of it all and DH want's to try next month.( he is also taking millions sups poor thing)

I want to just eat more fruit/veggies but if I don't eat other things Im hungry still! And because atomic said we can't feel hungry or our BS is not even I eat more things...:think:
I already think I screw this up for sure because I still feel hungry and still can't do the 30 min. breakfast every day!:mad:

Try not to be afraid, just have a positive attitude, I swear it will help with the testosterone, Flava. I feel the same way when I get hungry....the littlest grumble in my belly and I fear I must stuff my tomato hole with food or I'll make a girl, LOL.

Daisy, I am so ready to be done with pregnancy and get back on my meds, too.....and back into bathing suits, which I have completely foresaken at this point. I wonder what affected your cm.....that is interesting. The bsf usually makes it way watery, but honestly, it's not worth doing much unless you do a tiny one right before dtd. That's just my opinion, of course. It's a temporary thing. Hopefully your cm continues to pick up and hey, you're using preseed anyway, that's good!

[LolaInLove]

Wow, busy ladies...

Lola: Kind of odd that we all hit the wall at the same time with the diet/weight gain. I hear you on the new clothes. Hubby said the same thing...."With all the money we save on expensive food and supp, you can get some new mat. clothes." Something to look forward to I guess. Were you in tears on their first day of school? I know I would be.




I know, right! We all seem to be way over the getting fat part of it. I have like NO work clothes that fit me (I have to wear suits and crap like that, which are expensive!!) and I'm just tired of looking terrible in clothes. I have a huge muffin top that makes me want to never eat again.

And I did indeed cry when they went to K for the first time, but older is in 3rd now and younger is in 1st, and they go to a great little school that they love with a bunch of pals, so I am actually ok with it. Of course, I would rather be homeschooling them ANYDAY! But gotta work, so that's that. Do you HSers take a summer break or do little bits all year long? Sorry if that's a stupid question.....I have been "working" with mine over the summer to keep them sharp and I found that I really loved our little study sessions, which were more in-depth than the usual homework ones during the year.

[LolaInLove]

LMAO, 3PNB! Good for you for not giving a crap what the family thinks. You are so right, misery loves company. I am glad you have it all straight in your mind and aren't flustered about it. Sounds like you guys are doing fantastic, and your unhappy family members resent you for it in some weird, demented way, so there is nothing you can do about it. But I love the Pinkalicious party idea, that is so creative and cute! I will have to get that book, I've never heard of it. I will ask the girls when I get home, but I know we don't own it. I can't believe you are almost 15 weeks!!!!! YAYYYYY!!!!

Tink, ITA with 3, you need to do diet more than DH, but as you may have read here, we are all getting a little disgruntled with it.....well, mostly with the fat that has joined our bodies because of it. I am actually worried that it is hindering my fertility now. Anyway, so glad you are attempting soon! I can't wait to hear your attempt stories, LOL.

I'm4blue, you are going to be a banana-eating machine by the end of the week!

[begonia]

Im4b don't forget the bananas freeze well for smoothies if you can't eat them all before they go bad! I always cut mine into chunks and froze them and threw them in the blender with juice. OH! And banana soft serve! You just freeze banana chunks, then throw them in the blender or food processor and give it time, and it will turn into JUST the consistency of soft serve ice cream. Delicious. My girls love it with Hershey syrup :D

3PNB glad your friends and YOUR family are happy for you guys! Sorry the DH's are what they are, but at least that was expected right? The pinkalicious theme sounds darling!

Lola your poor DD2! Was it nerves or was she sick? I hope she's better now! We start school on Monday and my DD1 will be going to kindy ... she is super excited and I am too :happy:

WP I think working out in the 2WW is a-ok; I always have done that and have in the past worked out my entire pregnancy, and delivered healthy fat babies at the end :bigsmile: The general rule of thumb of course is to not start anything NEW (like if you've not been jogging to suddenly start) during pg and I would just apply that to your 2WW to be safe.

Flava I bet you're doing better than you think you are on the diet! I'll keep my FX you get pg quickly and can drop it!

Daisy and Alexis I hope this is your month for a BFP!!! Oh and Daisy my skin broke out like crazy on the boy diet. Gross. That and my chin hair I'm surprised DH knocked me up.

Tink ITA with the others ... diet is more important for you with the sway than it is for him. I think it is great if he's on it for sure, but I think the point is to make your body an incubator for those Y swimmers!

AFM I am thrilled because today I actually managed to eat like a healthy person instead of someone who only eats white foods. I had fruit salad for breakfast, a cup of lentils and a salad (salad hasn't been in my mouth in months!) for lunch ... am making a roast for dinner but am not sure I'll be able to take meat. Definitely can do the potato though :bigsmile: I hope this is going to stick around because it was really nice not to just eat french fries and soda today!

[WashingtonPromise]

3pnb: I need to have your attitude about telling family. We are always happy keeping it to ourselves, but get tired of the "you guys know what causes that right?" and all that garbage. What did the children say about a new baby? I love the party idea. I have not heard of that book either....have to looking to it, sounds nice and girlie (and I have plenty of those :) )

Lola: I knew your kids weren't going into K, I would cry at the start of every school year. 2 of my children went to a great public school for a couple years, but they were getting very bored.....DD1 was is gifted classes and still bored. DH had always wanted me to homeschool, so here we are. We do work with some of the younger children in the summer, if not too much info gets lost. The older kids love to read and have their own interests. Hey, I don't hate on families that can not homeschool their children, we have several friends that don't. Some people just don't have the option. In this economy more and more mothers are having to go back to work.

Begonia: Congrats on the major milestone!!! Getting to eat real food is awesome. With DD2 I was the sickest. I had to cook with the windows open. Before we had told everyone about that pregnancy, my MIL use to ask DH if I was okay, because I look so aweful. She accidently asked with me in the room one time......she is NOT observant.

Going to start my mini tramp. and weights in the morning. Even if it doesn't help it will make me feel better about myself. I had a big glob of EWCM today.....really weird....I investigated and it really was EWCM ( thought it may have been semen).

[begonia]

Begonia: Congrats on the major milestone!!! Getting to eat real food is awesome. With DD2 I was the sickest. I had to cook with the windows open. Before we had told everyone about that pregnancy, my MIL use to ask DH if I was okay, because I look so aweful. She accidently asked with me in the room one time......she is NOT observant.

Going to start my mini tramp. and weights in the morning. Even if it doesn't help it will make me feel better about myself. I had a big glob of EWCM today.....really weird....I investigated and it really was EWCM ( thought it may have been semen).

Oh MAN on the MIL! That is ROUGH! And totally something my mother would say to me. Haven't told her yet :wink: We haven't told anyone except 2 of my BFF's. We'll get around to it but part of me just likes it being our little secret. And I'm loathing commentary about "it being another girl" which I know we will get from plenty of people.

Good for you on the exercise in the am - you're totally right about it making you feel better. Endorphins are for real!

Out of the blue today DD1 asked me why I wanted another baby (she was talking about her sis since she doesn't know about this one) and why I picked two girls. Kids are weirdly perceptive so part of me wonders if she's on to me! I am hoping to wait until end of September to tell them but we'll see how long the belly is willing to wait :shrug:

[b3blue]

I think waiting to start TTC is hell!! I think it may even be worse than the 2ww to be honest. Spending hours researching supplements, diet, blah, blah, blah. Obsessing over what you are doing, changing things all the time, buying a million news supps. I am not so much obsessing about swaying blue...more about getting super healthy and fertile and nutrient enriched, but man it's doing my head in. :worry:


OMGOSH THIS!! I'm so behind on everyone but my goodness this is exactly how I feel. Thankfully I was already used to charting and POAS. I just bought some Vit D today since a lot of places have BOGO free vitamins this week. I was going to get CoQ10 but holy expensive. So that's a prenatal, folic acid, vit d, and fish oil after I get the ok from my doc. DH will have his multi, l-arg, zinc, & fish oil.

I found out I have a protein s deficiency for sure so there will be more doctor talk sigh. It just means mainly that I'll have to do lovenox again with this pregnancy. Not fun, but if it'll get me a take home baby, so be it. I thought it may be the reason I've miscarried twice, but they were too early for that to play a factor, just bad luck I guess.

Welcome to the new ladies!

[3Pink1Blue]

Wp- I think if we had any more we'd start getting crap from my fam but my inlays have flat told us we can't stop till we have a boy. Nice huh. My girls are super excited, nieces and nephew couldn't care less since it doesn't benefit them.

Yes ladies look into Pinkalicious! There's also Goldalicious, Silverlicious, Purplelicious and I think a few more, seriously so great!

I'm so over my big ass too, many of my maternity clothes don't fit, so sucks!

[Im4blue]

Hello everyone!!!! =)

Alexis: Welcome to the 2ww!! I pray for a BFP for you and you don't have to worry about this stuff much longer. =) With you having issues with your CM being creamy......have you tried to do the BSD to wash it away? I had to do this one time. Seemed to work for me even though I didn't get a BFP. Also I was drinking Diet Green Tea (contained Ginseng and honey) but it contains Aspartame so I ditched that as they say that Aspartame lowers your PH. I am with you, I can't stand the Green Tea!!!! So.........I went to our local health food store and bought Green Tea Extract pills. I also noticed this weekend that they had them in Wal-Mart and the price is really decent. Just a thought for you! =)

WP: Did you get a chance to work out today?? How did it go?? I got home from work late so I didn't get to work out, but tomorrow I am hitting it hard! LOL!!

Flava and WP: I am sorry that you girls are getting extra hungry. This may sound stupid but......I had the same issue. I decided to add broccoli to my salad and then I ate a baked potato and then I ate an apple. I can honestly say that come supper time, I am not that hungry. I also drink alot of water during the day, so I am not sure if that helps or what.

Tink: I am glad that Keith is soo willing and cooperative about the diet. My DH (Mike) knows what he can and can't have. He's studied the list. =)

3PNB: Ohhhhhh......the Pinkalicious party sounded like fun (minus the BIL's pregnant gf and their drama). I am sorry that you had to deal with that. Girl, don't let them rain on your parade! Keep your chin up!! (((hugs))) Congrats on your pregnancy too btw!!!

To all you moms: I guess it's back to school time. =(

I am 9dpo and a not so proud owner of a BFN this morning. Oh well! Such is life. =) Begonia, I thought of you while I was eating dinner. (baked ziti with ground beef, beef slices, and a banana) I also made my hard boiled eggs tonight. =)

Does anyone know where I can find a boy cookbook or more acceptable meal suggestions/recipes??? Also, has anyone done the Apple Cider Vinegar Drink AND the Alka Seltzer Gold drink??? What kind of a schedule should I follow??? Ugh..............there is one more but it seemed to have slipped my mind. =)

[Im4blue]

WP..............I noticed your FF ticker. What's your name over there?? I'm there too. 4Blue is my FF name. =)

[Tink18]

So I have been following the Paleo diet/ caveman diet sorda going back In between both to get what i need for the boy diet. Basically It's High protein, egg whites in the morning, Lots of fruits and veggies and nuts. I don't eat any bread, pasta or dairy. I do drink non fat milk twice a day. Plus i have been doing my work out and weights. Since my attempt is soon, I'm trying to figure out if and what I am missing? Any advice? of things I should add in?? Oh and I'm taking all my supps.

3P I love that PARTY!!! DD has has all those books!!! That party sounds so BOSS!

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: I think children are a lot more observant than we give them credit for. I enjoy having the non-reading children stare over my shoulder while I am on this site, when I am looking at my chart, OPKs, and HPTs. The older children have some clues over here and have been asking when we are going to have another baby. TRUST ME, I AM TRYING KIDS!!! I am really going to try and keep our pg a secret as long as possible. I think it is more of a surprise if you are already 15-20 wks, but I know I am just kidding myself. I don't hide weight or pregnancy well.

3pnb: I can not believe you family would tell you to keep going until a guys have a boy!!! Talk about pressure!!! My mother is worried we might have another baby, so we can try for a boy....well you have reason to worry mom.

im4blue: 9 dpo is too early to count yourself out!!!! You may get a surprise BFP in a couple days :) There is lots of recipe ideas and other TTC boy info on the TTC boy page under the stickys. Oh, and my screen name is the same on FF, I don't post much over there though.

I did my weights last night and then weights on my mini-tramp this morning. I have a feeling I am going to be sore later.

[LolaInLove]

Hey girls:

Oh my lord, I am so tired now. I really hate waking up at 6am now. And we ran out of coffee yesterday and DH forgot to tell me so we had none this morning and I'm dying!

Anyway, Alexis, don't worry about the creamy cm, if you were using preseed you are fine. The creamy may have been a post-ovulation kind, right?

Tink, 3PNB is the Paleo master here.....I think it is fine, but I drink full fat cow products or almond milk because both are better for fertility, although not better for my waistline. Are you losing weight with Paleo?

4Blue: there are some recipes for blue threads here, those are great. Otherwise, I have an actual cookbook that is probably great for blue, it's called Cooking to Conceive by Kim Hahn. Lots of yummy stuff, very nutritious and uses the "superfoods" for fertility. We make lots of stuff out of it. IG had a cookbook for blue that you could download, but I wasn't crazy about the recipes and they were just loads of ground beef and tomatoes and potatoes and I gained this weight really quick eating that way.

WP, LOL sorry, I thought for some reason you thought my youngest was going to K....anyway, I do get a little sad, I hate sending them off to school. I hate being without them period.....I guess most of you guys don't have to deal with that, but I'm divorced and remarried and so my girls go to their dad's house in the country every other weekend and a good bit in the summer and I miss them terribly. My DH actually takes them to school in the morning because I get ready for work and so I don't get sad, because even at their ages, I STILL hate dropping them off at some building in the middle of the city and leaving them there all day. I'm a sap like that. But I have tons of respect for moms who homeschool, and I've only met a couple who were um, snobby about it. But you are right, sadly many women can't do it anymore as they need to hit the outside workforce again.

Begonia, so glad your MS is on the up and up! Is your belly growing a bit yet? I've heard the 3rd and more makes you start growing immediately!

[begonia]

I am 9dpo and a not so proud owner of a BFN this morning. Oh well! Such is life. =) Begonia, I thought of you while I was eating dinner. (baked ziti with ground beef, beef slices, and a banana) I also made my hard boiled eggs tonight. =)

Does anyone know where I can find a boy cookbook or more acceptable meal suggestions/recipes??? Also, has anyone done the Apple Cider Vinegar Drink AND the Alka Seltzer Gold drink??? What kind of a schedule should I follow??? Ugh..............there is one more but it seemed to have slipped my mind. =)

I agree with others; 9 DPO isn't the end of it! That BFP still could be coming; FX it does! The ziti sounds perfect for TTC boy, great job! And I love hard boiled eggs so much ... so do my girls. They're such a great healthy food!

I did the ACV and ASG. I did one packet of ASG af-o, and the ACV I took 2tbs 1 or 2x a day, depending on whether I remembered it. Don't take it til after lunch as it can cause blood sugar to dip. ASG you can take any time of day. And on the ACV, it is nasty in water ... definitely put it in juice and chug it!

WP, I didn't even think about having kids read what I'm doing online! DD1 can read but not well enough to figure out "gender dreaming" thank goodness, LOL! Or so I think ...

Lola I bet it is hard to give your girls up to him so frequently. Definitely a downside to him living nearby. My parents were split cross-country so we only saw my dad 3x a year growing up. I haven't started showing yet, but I do tend to carry small (in spite of birthing monster sized babies) so we'll see. Like you said I expected #3 to be insta-belly ... I bet it'll be obvious in another 4 weeks when I normally don't show til about 20. And a friend due early Oct has all my maternity stuff so I'm really hoping I can wait til end of September to need it! Go get your coffee STAT! I still drink a half cup every am. Almost need it for the routine of it more than anything!

Tink I would include the egg yolk in your eggs unless you just can't stomach it! The cholesterol is such a good building block for testosterone, and the fats are good for your boy sway. Like Lola I'd say go for full fat dairy if you can, but if not skim is still great for nutrients and protein. No breads and pasta is great and will likely help keep off the pounds! I think Paleo is fantastic and am sure Jen will have some advice on it if you need it.

This am DD1 came in to cuddle at 6 am and I just wanted to hold her forever. I can't believe she is going to be in kindy this time next week. Even if I homeschooled her I couldn't just sit around and cuddle her all day (is that part of the curriculum you use WP? If so I'm IN!) so I guess this is best for both of us :wink:

[Flava]

Hey ladies!

Today I got peak on my monitor and a smiley face too on the morning! Same thing was last month...only the monitor go from low to peak and I don't get high on it ...so I don't know what to do like this...I wanted to dtd 2 times but for that I suppose to see a high window so I know peak it's coming. And of course I did not test the smiley yesterday just liek last month because the damn window was low!:hair:
I screw this up again so I don't think I ready for next month like this when I have no clue when to tdt!:worry::mad:
Sooo I told DH what if we wait more and just try in Oct.? He said ok he don't care...now I can wait if I want to, but the diet is so hard to do.:sad:
Any advice??
Anyway cm is funny too I guess I make a post about it and ask what others think.
Oh and I eat more fruit and veggie from now on and try to drink more too.
Hope it will help a little.

[begonia]

Flava, here's what I would do next month ... start POAS with those OPK's 2x a day, at 2 and 6 pm, from CD 10 on. That way you'll be sure to catch the start of the surge and MAYBE see a fade-in pattern to help you time the 2x BD. But if not, you'll at least catch the surge and be able to BD 1x and give it a go next month. Then if you don't get a BFP you can go for the 2x BD in October. Sounds like your monitor is almost causing more confusion than providing help! Did you get your smiley on CD13 last month too? If so maybe you've got a good enough pattern to guess that you could BD CD11 and CD13?

Timing is such a PITA!!!

[Flava]

begonia- the thing is I just use the smiley test because I have no clue about fade ins and such I can't read that! But because the smiley is expensive I did not want to use much so I was thinking when I see high on the monitor I start using it. Only there was no high !:mad: it went from low to peak!
Last month it was not on cd13 it was cd 14 and for smiley ( 2 times) and peak monitor for cd 14 and 15. So this month is a day early.
But for me every month is different!:hair:
And I really want to do it 2 times because the other sways wan only 1 try!
So maybe I need 1 more month...other things are not so good anyway...like I suppose to drink a lot more! But to hold it every day for the test afternoon is so damn hard when you drink a lot!

[Flava]

Oh I also don't think mucinex help me to get more EWCM so should I just drop it?
But what else to use then? Im on fertile CM don't see much help from that either.
Have to go clean now...:rolleyes:
Please help me out what to do because I can't try like this next month!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, I hear ya, timing is a pain. I am just going to dtd every other day now, although I am still going to take opks. Don't worry, you will be fine! If you did want to wait and continue diet, I would say to do what I perceive many of us are moving towards, which is still a very mindful high-everything diet where you don't overload on the calories. I actually feel like I've lost a few pounds in the last week or two.....my pants are fitting looser today. I have just been eating little bits of healthy stuff every couple hours. I know it's probably bad to be losing weight at this point, but I'm just about over swaying for the most part....I am officially a LAZY swayer, lol.

Begonia, it does suck to give the girls over, especially when I know they hate being there and don't get the same love and attention they get with us (which the girls tell me!). But, it is what it is. I am having one of those days where I just want to get this over with and get pg, and am feeling sad and hopeless about it all. I talked to my mom about it last night, but she is not very consoling, although she is a sweet and loving woman, she has never dealt with infertility and is also not one to really "talk" about it. She prefers to just say, "Well, I know it must be frustrating, and I will certainly continue to pray for you." I'm like, FRUSTRATING? Try soul-destroying. Anyway, I think I just have this doomsday feeling, like I've got this 2nd round of Clomid and then one more to try, and then I can't anymore and who knows, maybe it will never happen. My mom said maybe when we "stop trying" it will happen, but you can't stop trying, either I'm trying or I'm not. There is no in-between at this point. If I say we are not trying, but are not preventing, then in my mind, I'm trying. I may not do opks or anything, but I will certainly be watching my cm and cycle and wanting to take hpts, kwim! Anyway, rant over......man, you girls have no idea how much I hope none of you have to do this for as long as I have.

[b3blue]

Wp- I think if we had any more we'd start getting crap from my fam but my inlays have flat told us we can't stop till we have a boy. Nice huh. My girls are super excited, nieces and nephew couldn't care less since it doesn't benefit them.

Yes ladies look into Pinkalicious! There's also Goldalicious, Silverlicious, Purplelicious and I think a few more, seriously so great!

I'm so over my big ass too, many of my maternity clothes don't fit, so sucks!

We haven't moved to those yet. My DD just discovered Fancy Nancy over Christmas and loves that.


WP..............I noticed your FF ticker. What's your name over there?? I'm there too. 4Blue is my FF name. =)

Hey there!! I'm lilbitcrunchy on FF :) You know you're not out at 9dpo!


begonia- the thing is I just use the smiley test because I have no clue about fade ins and such I can't read that! But because the smiley is expensive I did not want to use much so I was thinking when I see high on the monitor I start using it. Only there was no high !:mad: it went from low to peak!
Last month it was not on cd13 it was cd 14 and for smiley ( 2 times) and peak monitor for cd 14 and 15. So this month is a day early.
But for me every month is different!:hair:
And I really want to do it 2 times because the other sways wan only 1 try!
So maybe I need 1 more month...other things are not so good anyway...like I suppose to drink a lot more! But to hold it every day for the test afternoon is so damn hard when you drink a lot!

Another mama I know uses the opk cheapies until she gets something remotely positive and uses the digis to back them up. That lowers the cost a bit and still gives you that definite yes when you need it.

[Flava]

Lola- IKR? Trying is trying no matter what. At least you have some1 to talk about it I have no one.
About the timing I just don't want to do it to many times or to early before O. Just because Im scared of this to...oh man Im scared of everything! Also I don't want to and up ttc so long like when I did #4 it was 18 or 20 months!
SO let's just hope we get that bfp fast!

Does it matter if we eat more fruit or veggie?? Because I don't eat much veggie except when I eat salad .I put lot's of veggies in that. But for snacks and so I eat fruit.

[Flava]

3blue- I never use cheap opk's have no clue where to get it ...but I read so many other have problem reading it and they get stressed out because of it that's why I just use the smiley and the monitor 1 less to worry I guess.

[LolaInLove]

Flava, AMEN girl, let's hope it doesn't take forever. I know you're scared, but just try not to be and try to believe you are about to conceive your son. That is all I can do to stay positive and keep going. I think you can't eat too many fruits and veggies, honestly. Sounds like you are getting a good amount, but if you wanted to have some more, carrots, celery, and cucumbers are very good dipped in hummus or a veggie/ranch dip.....we do that a lot for easy veggie snacks.

[Flava]

About to conceive my son hehe this made me smile .sounds good lol
What's a hummus?? and how does it taste? no clue :p
ranch dip I like I always buy hidden valley

Oh next week is school here! And DD3 go to the first time and she is scared! (me too!) She only go for 3-4 hours is this before kindergarten program here. I just hope she will be ok and like it because she cry a lot if other not nice to her and so. I hope no1 gonna tease her.http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Dragonwiz/clipart/th_panic.gif (http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y35/Dragonwiz/clipart/?action=view&current=panic.gif)