August Thread for TTC Blue - Chit Chat!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola- Ita that the highly processed barely meat products are definitely a co-culprate, it's scary how many kids eat it 2-3-4 times a week. I would litterally lock my kid in a tower all rapunzel style if they got preg that young. I can't even fathom being a grandma in 3 years!

Hobber- I dread that day they ask how the baby gets in there, I thought I'd for sure have had that convo by now lol

Cemas- never a bummer hun. Don't keep all that frustration inside, vent away!

[Hobbermittens]

3PNB, I totally agree....most people think the early periods is because of hormones in animal products (which is not a good thing anyway) but you are exactly right about the increase in childhood obesity leading to earlier periods. I tend to think there might be a correlation as well, because a lot of the obese kids are eating a ton of McD's and such with crap meat full of growth hormone. Another excellent reason to feed your children well! Could you even imagine a 12 year old with a child? One of my gf here is a teacher and she has 2 girls in her freshman class that have 2 YEAR OLDS and one is pg again!!!! They are 14! I know it's happening at 10 and 11 in some cases even. SCARY. Totally scary.

That is horrifying!! Can you imagine? I can totally see a correlation between the obesity/early puberty. Some of the chubby little girls I see actually have breasts! I thought at first that it was because of their weight being carried in that part of their bodies, but I really think they have breasts. Some of these kids are 9 years old!

[Kris217]

yes stick baby stick! It's great that you got a bfp on the diet!

Woohoo, hope that line continues to get nice and dark over the next few days!

[Kris217]

That's weird. when was your insemination date? I wasn't able to read back and I hope its not too personal to ask, but are you doing a volunteer C-Section?

Oh my inseminations were done on the 5th and 7th. Was meant to be the 6th but he couldn't "perform". I don't think the 7th made any difference as I only ovulated on the 5th and a bit of the 6th so I think I got pregnant from the one on the 5th of July.
Yes I am having a voluntary C-section, I have a lot of bad anxiety issues and think it's the best option for me. Plus hearing horror stories about tearing ouch! Most of my friends had it and a few needed to go back in for surgery as the scan was causing a lot of pain, and one girl was tore apart so bad they had Doctors drive in from a town a few hours away just to have a look at how bad it was. I know that doesn't happen to everyone but if I think I could be one of them I know I'd panic about it and god knows that won't be good for me or the baby.

[Kris217]

Oh, Kris, could just be a mistake on your scan re: the 2nd tri notation. That makes no sense otherwise. Maybe call and ask?

Yeah it has to be a mistake, I don't know if it will cause issues if they think I'm in my 2nd or not. I will call just to point it out to them and see what they say.

[Kris217]

Ok let me see if I can get my pic to post...

Awww so cute! My next scan my NT will be in 3D and I can't wait to see the pics :)

[3Pink1Blue]

Kris- I hear ya, tearing stories are the worst. Fwiw I got a few stitches (less then 5) with my first and those came because she had her hand by her face so her elbow ripped me a tiny bit but I had none with the other two. I get the anxiety just wanted you to know some of us don't tear at all :)

[Hobbermittens]

Yes I am having a voluntary C-section, I have a lot of bad anxiety issues and think it's the best option for me. Plus hearing horror stories about tearing ouch! Most of my friends had it and a few needed to go back in for surgery as the scan was causing a lot of pain, and one girl was tore apart so bad they had Doctors drive in from a town a few hours away just to have a look at how bad it was. I know that doesn't happen to everyone but if I think I could be one of them I know I'd panic about it and god knows that won't be good for me or the baby.
If it makes you feel better, I had two stitches with my first baby (not even for a tear, just a "skid mark") and only one stitch with my second (again, another skid mark). And none with my 3rd! So you might not have torn... but you do what is best for you!

[Kris217]

If it makes you feel better, I had two stitches with my first baby (not even for a tear, just a "skid mark") and only one stitch with my second (again, another skid mark). And none with my 3rd! So you might not have torn... but you do what is best for you!

I guess your body gets used to it the 3rd time around lol. I know it doesn't always happen, it's just not something I'd like to go through.

[LolaInLove]

When I had my vbac, I did not have a tear or anything, and the reason why is because my doula taught us to "stretch" me out. It was actually not as horrifying as it sounds....every night (or every other night), from 35 weeks on, my DH would get some pure vitamin e oil and literally use both hands to stretch me and then hold it to the point where it couldn't go anymore for about a minute. He told me he could tell it was definitely stretching. I was afraid of the tearing and stories I had heard about sex hurting for years, etc. but I so wanted to have a vbac, so I was all about this. When I had DD2, she literally came out clean as can be, and I had not one iota of trauma. My midwife could not believe it, and she was 7lbs2oz, very average sized. Just a thought for those who are not squeamish of having their DH be in their lady parts that way. I told him he'd get some lovin' afterwards, plus the non-torn vag benefits for a long time, so he was down.

I know, can you guys believe that about the pg freshman? I could not at first, but my friend was so nonchalant about it, she's seen it for years now. I can't even imagine my oldest who is 9 being pg in a few years, it is insane. I mean, I was a little naive child when I was 12, not even thinking about boys barely! My girls will definitely not be allowed to hang out with boys like that either. Hopefully, they won't hang around kids like that when they get into jr. high and such.

[lightofmylife]

If it makes you feel better, I had two stitches with my first baby (not even for a tear, just a "skid mark") and only one stitch with my second (again, another skid mark). And none with my 3rd! So you might not have torn... but you do what is best for you!
i ve just one stich with my first and none with dd2 , so for doing good :)

[Flava]

That is totally crazy Lola!!! What are these parents letting their kids do at those ages?!? My girls ****WILL NOT**** be alone with a boy at that age! And for it to happen TWICE!!! Oh nooooo way!!! That just boils my blood!! OMG

OMG that is crazy!!! My DD1 is 14 next month and want books and a pillow pet for her birthday! see the different here...? Sure she talk about boys too but it's like "oh he looked at me in the school omg" yeah I like her this way.

[lightofmylife]

Light, thank you so much, you are so sweet! I appreciate your prayers, hun. How are you doing?

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Fine and into swaying business in full swing :) ,

[3Pink1Blue]

Hey ladies, well you asked for it 16 wks 2 days baby #4
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[Flava]

Jen you look so good!! Very cute:o
oh and that's a boy tummy :bigsmile:

[Alexis2007]

What a cute belly 3Pink!!! Love it!!

[DebH]

Cute belly pic Jen! When are you going to find out?

[3Pink1Blue]

Thanks ladies!

Deb- big scan is Sept 23rd!

[jane]

Oh my inseminations were done on the 5th and 7th. Was meant to be the 6th but he couldn't "perform". I don't think the 7th made any difference as I only ovulated on the 5th and a bit of the 6th so I think I got pregnant from the one on the 5th of July.
Yes I am having a voluntary C-section, I have a lot of bad anxiety issues and think it's the best option for me. Plus hearing horror stories about tearing ouch! Most of my friends had it and a few needed to go back in for surgery as the scan was causing a lot of pain, and one girl was tore apart so bad they had Doctors drive in from a town a few hours away just to have a look at how bad it was. I know that doesn't happen to everyone but if I think I could be one of them I know I'd panic about it and god knows that won't be good for me or the baby.it isnt that bad for everyone though.i had 3 dd's without a stitch and my last one was over 9lbs!!!! i did feel like a bit of a :superhero:when she came out!!!

[jane]

3 pink,very cute pic,you're making me jealous! will wait for your sept23rd announcement!

[Hobbermittens]

Hey ladies, well you asked for it 16 wks 2 days baby #4
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You are so cute! :)

[Flava]

Ladies me and DD4 are sick:sad: now how do I ttc like this? Not big a little cold I guess...(how did we got this in this ??it's so hot here!) Anyway I don't feel good and don't want to eat and I just have to to keep up the ttc .Not cool...
Maybe I wait for Oct. or what?

[Flava]

Oh also I drinked beer yesterday. Is beer very bad for boy sway?

[lightofmylife]

Hey ladies, well you asked for it 16 wks 2 days baby #4
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3PNB ....very cute pic , u r looking awesome :) , do u feel baby movement ??

[Hobbermittens]

Ladies me and DD4 are sick:sad: now how do I ttc like this? Not big a little cold I guess...(how did we got this in this ??it's so hot here!) Anyway I don't feel good and don't want to eat and I just have to to keep up the ttc .Not cool...
Maybe I wait for Oct. or what?

There was another thread that said being sick swayed girl! If you are sick, flava, I would wait!!

[Flava]

There was another thread that said being sick swayed girl! If you are sick, flava, I would wait!!

yeah but my O is like over 2 weeks away ! Or is that to close to it? Im not sick a lot it feels like a cold but just a bit..maybe allergies ? now I don't know what to do!:shrug: If I tell DH to wait 1 more month he is going to be angry. And Im sick of this too...:sigh:

[Flava]

hey I was just thinking about Lola and Z! Sperm meet egg the day after O right? So you guys have this tiny babys traveling in there now! wow!:noaf::noaf::bluecheer::bluecheer:

[lightofmylife]

So Hurrican Irene was here , i woke up imagining lots of fallen tree and stuff like that but Thank to Lord all is well ..... we were really scared .

[3Pink1Blue]

Jane- 9lbs and no tearing! You are definitely a:superhero:!

Flava- sorry you and your little one have been sick, fx your feeling better ASAP!

Light- thanks and yep I've been getting wiggles for a few weeks now :) So glad your fam escaped Irene unscathed!

Lola & Z- I'm with flava, fx for little cells looking for a place to settle in!!

Everyone else thanks for your kind words on my belly :kiss: I'm a little nervous as I'm about the size I was at w/dd3 @ 20wks:suprise:

So I'm having a bit of ass fascination right now. I've lost 12lbs since my bfp yet maternity pants that fit a few months ago can no longer get over my hips and thighs. My bottom half has always shrunk during pregnancy wtf?

[WashingtonPromise]

Hi ladies :wave: ....no one notice I was gone :( ....JK

Jane: Glad to see you back. And WOW, 9lbs is a big baby, so much easier recovery with no stitches.

3pnb: LOVE the belly shot. I am so glad you are finding out the gender!!!

Flava: I hope you and DD get well soon.

TTC5: How is your daughter?

Lola: Congrats on the O!!! Are you a day ahead of me? The is going to be an awesome month!!!

Alexis: So glad to still see you pg.

Begonia: I love your u/s pic. Such a cutie.

I should be 2 dpo....waiting for another high temp. I had loads of EWCM this month....now I am back to creamy. And I did get a + opk on Thursday afternoon!!!At least I know they work. I have been clothes shopping for the kids and we had unexpected family come in from Chicago, too.
Glad to be back :)

[3Pink1Blue]

Wp- awe thanks! We're very excited to be finding out too! 26 more days!!! It's been so slow here it's hard to notice when people don't post for a bit. Big hug, glad you're back and in the 2ww!!

[Flava]

So Hurrican Irene was here , i woke up imagining lots of fallen tree and stuff like that but Thank to Lord all is well ..... we were really scared .

very nice ! Im glad you guys are all ok!

[Flava]

So I'm having a bit of ass fascination right now. I've lost 12lbs since my bfp yet maternity pants that fit a few months ago can no longer get over my hips and thighs. My bottom half has always shrunk during pregnancy wtf?

yeah things are different now because it's a boy!:wink:

[Flava]

WP-so you are in the 2ww too! Hope it's a bfp!:bluesperm::bluecheer:

[Alexis2007]

FX for all of you in the 2ww!!! ****baby dust****

[LolaInLove]

hey I was just thinking about Lola and Z! Sperm meet egg the day after O right? So you guys have this tiny babys traveling in there now! wow!:noaf::noaf::bluecheer::bluecheer:

Yep, I'm 4dpo right now! I have no idea how to feel....hopeful or nonchalant. It's so easy for me to be optimistic and cheer others on, but when it comes to me, I am always one to protect myself. I think ZB is a day or two past O as well. We have been doing this FOREVER, time for one of us to get crossed off the ttc list.

I'm sorry you are sick!!! I think as long as you are still eating and all, and not taking cold meds except guifanesin, you are ok. I read another thread about being sick, and I can't remember who posted this, but I agree: being sick only sways pink when you aren't eating and are barfing, etc....not getting the nutrients, kwim?

[LolaInLove]

There was another thread that said being sick swayed girl! If you are sick, flava, I would wait!!

I mean, I would too, but if your DH is ancy, and you aren't that bad, I think it might be ok.....

[LolaInLove]

Jane- 9lbs and no tearing! You are definitely a:superhero:!

Flava- sorry you and your little one have been sick, fx your feeling better ASAP!

Light- thanks and yep I've been getting wiggles for a few weeks now :) So glad your fam escaped Irene unscathed!

Lola & Z- I'm with flava, fx for little cells looking for a place to settle in!!

Everyone else thanks for your kind words on my belly :kiss: I'm a little nervous as I'm about the size I was at w/dd3 @ 20wks:suprise:

So I'm having a bit of ass fascination right now. I've lost 12lbs since my bfp yet maternity pants that fit a few months ago can no longer get over my hips and thighs. My bottom half has always shrunk during pregnancy wtf?

You look ADORABLE!!!! That is weird about your new weight distribution! I hope Flava is right on, because it's a boy!!!

[LolaInLove]

So Hurrican Irene was here , i woke up imagining lots of fallen tree and stuff like that but Thank to Lord all is well ..... we were really scared .

Good news! It passed us by, thankfully. (I'm in South Carolina.)

[LolaInLove]

Hi ladies :wave: ....no one notice I was gone :( ....JK

Jane: Glad to see you back. And WOW, 9lbs is a big baby, so much easier recovery with no stitches.

3pnb: LOVE the belly shot. I am so glad you are finding out the gender!!!

Flava: I hope you and DD get well soon.

TTC5: How is your daughter?

Lola: Congrats on the O!!! Are you a day ahead of me? The is going to be an awesome month!!!

Alexis: So glad to still see you pg.

Begonia: I love your u/s pic. Such a cutie.

I should be 2 dpo....waiting for another high temp. I had loads of EWCM this month....now I am back to creamy. And I did get a + opk on Thursday afternoon!!!At least I know they work. I have been clothes shopping for the kids and we had unexpected family come in from Chicago, too.
Glad to be back :)

YAY! Someone has to get lucky this month, LOL, besides Alexis, that is. Woot woot!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - thanks hun! Fx tightly for you this month! I agree, you or ZB preferably both needs a bfp this month. I'm hoping Sept will be like June, bfp after bfp :bluecheer:

[Flava]

Ladies Im not sick anymore:suprise: but poor DD is :sad:
I don't know I noticed that since I take all this green sups I don't get sick so easy. (was always sick for weeks before)
But I still got bad new AF is here and Im on CD1 now. I only got 10 day from O to AF this time.:worry: Don't know why this short...before at least I got 11-12 days.
The thing is now I will O a day before full moon.I read that the day before is considered full moon .Is that true?? Not that Im a moon fanatic but I never O'd on full moon before so I was happy for it...but If I O just 1 day early it will be on new moon phase.
Wish I can make O come a day or 2 late...but at least it will be in gemini huh that's for boy.Biorhythm is all girl up there no blue line.
Please don't say that all this don't matter I know diet is most important but it nice if everything else line up, right?
Anyway Im scared to go...also having this crazy dreams for weeks now!!!
I dream a lot about pregnancy and babys .Mostly baby boys.But this babys are always someone else's not mine! I never have one. Im also not a big dream believer but it piss me off. Even im my own damn dreams I can't have a boy! Maybe it's a sign that I never have any no matter what.:mad:
Or I should not even try again.

[WashingtonPromise]

3pnb: I love the u/s ticker!!!

Flava: Glad your O might line up with a full moon, sounds like a plus to me!!! I dreamed with my last pregnancy that was pg with a boy....dreams can be wrong. I even dreamed that the u/s was wrong and that I was still having a boy.....

Lola: Glad we are in the 2ww together again AND I am double glad that you are ahead of me. I understand not wanting to get too excited and protecting your heart......secret fertlity dust for you and dh's manhood.

Not too much to report. Weird temps....they just keep jumping? Normally they level off a bit before jumping again.

[LolaInLove]

Flava, I know what you mean, even though you don't put a lot of stock in moon, biorythyms, etc, it is nice to see them in your favor. But, a full moon is a full moon, even until the last day, from what I understand. Glad you are not sick anymore, but sorry to hear the baby is. I have not been sick AT ALL since I've been on this powerful antioxidant supp regimen. It's been nice!

WP, thanks hun! Wow, your temps are climbing like crazy....that is good! Means your body is kicking out some mad progesterone!

3PNB, I also love the new u/s ticker!

[Flava]

WP- your temp is just going up and up.Looking good!

I know dreams are crap...but I never had a dream that I have a boy. I tried hard to dream it when I was pregnant but I always had a girl dream.

[Tink18]

Hey Ladies I'm Back from the big bachelorette weekend! It was a ton of fun but I am soo glad it's here and gone. Now I just have to concentrate on the wedding in Oct. I think my life will finally so down since I don't have so many things to plan. Anyway. I ended up getting a smiley on CD14. SO I am hoping that I am in the clear from DH's little episode! If not, it's just meant to be and ill be thrilled!

How is everyone?

[Flava]

Lola_ the thing is I may O before the full moon not on the day or days after! So I hope to O a day or 2 late then I will be on full moon!

Wow, your temps are climbing like crazy....that is good! Means your body is kicking out some mad progesterone!
really? I did not know this!

[Flava]

AF is so little, almost nothing. I think today is just spotting.So I changed FF back from light to spotting and Im back to my old cycle. I guess the CD1 is tomorrow.(I got confused because I have some red spots and normally I only have brown spotting so that's why I put cd1)
Well whatever at least I got 1 more day before O right three lol!

[begonia]

Flava definitely don't count CD til full flow no matter what color the spotting, and if your full flow starts late night, count the next day as CD1. FX your O lines up nicely with the full moon!!! Sorry about the frustrating dreams where you're not having the baby... I keep wanting to dream about this baby but don't ...

WP I was the EXACT same with DD2; kept dreaming she was a boy, in spite of the u/s, and was therefore kind of thinking that maybe, just maybe, the u/s was wrong. It wasn't, LOL! WHOO HOO for mad amounts of ewcm! Fantastic about the temps too!

Any symptoms Lola or are you trying to avoid obsessing? I am SO believing this is your month. I get that it's easier to be optimistic for others. So I'm just going to be super optimistic for you; this is IT. I can't wait to see that BFP this time next week! You and ZB both!!! How great would that be?!?!

Jen what a great pic and ticker! Aaarrgh it is so close! I can't believe it! My DH is sure we're having girl #3 but so I told him we could have a bet, and I'll take boy. I have to come up with something good to get when I win, LOL!

Jane when is your next attempt, do you know yet?

Kris I'm also one that had no tearing. You have to do what is best for you. Is the Maxalon still keeping your nausea at bay? Hope so!

[iluvmyman]

That's an awesome Pic, B!! So clear!

Lola, we will not sue our doula but the D.A. might. We have to wait and see. I think they might pursue practicing w/o a license but the other would I think in my un-lawyer of knowledge of the law mind set a precedence for Dr.'s since they get sued for his C.O.D all the time. The license issue would be settled out of court and a fine from what I've read but we are waiting to see. Stinks too cuz I'm thinking I'll never get my very expensive Miyo baby hammock I had shipped across the country, the cops took back. I emailed the company to see if they'd give me a discount on a new one but they haven't responded.
GL to you in your 2WW Lola! I'm so praying this will be your month!

AFM - We told our good friends about the pregnancy this weekend at their lake house and it went well. Told the kids and they both want a girl, so phew, if that's the case. I thought DS2 would want another brother so that's good. Telling then was pretty scary, since another loss would be devastating but we need to tell them at some point. :) We had previously told our oldest.
My little ones told my parents I needed to eat well and I was pulling my mom's leg for a few hours but decided to go ahead and confess. My parents are very unexcitable and not much fun to announce pregnancies to. My mom took it better than expected and my Dad said "if that's what you want" was very indifferent and said he has his concerns....so that was a nice little knife through the heart. That just leaves some friends and family but hope to tell everyone this week. My MIL I don't want to tell just cuz of the drama of it all. She's overdramatic and I just don't want to deal w/ it. DH will be there and we'll have to have "somewhere we need to be" so we can minimize it. My MIL is wonderful just a bit much w/ the crying and loves the drama/worst case scenario stuff for sympathy. Plus she'll ask about DS2's C.O.D, but we'll tell them this week too.

BTW - I asked DH last week if I could start wearing maternity clothes since my stomach is so big anyway and he told me No since I couldn't use the baby as a cover for my fat. LOL! What a brat! He did tell me to go through and get rid of all my clothes that don't fit anymore and get rid of them. I've needed a new wardrobe for a years but I'm not spending that kind of money on myself. Might be time though. I told him I hope he realizes that I wont' have any more clothes left since I cycle through the 5 shirts that fit me now. :) I think I'll start wearing some maternity at the 12 week mark. I won't be hiding it anymore so time to flaunt away. :pregnant:

[iluvmyman]

Hey Ladies I'm Back from the big bachelorette weekend! It was a ton of fun but I am soo glad it's here and gone. Now I just have to concentrate on the wedding in Oct. I think my life will finally so down since I don't have so many things to plan. Anyway. I ended up getting a smiley on CD14. SO I am hoping that I am in the clear from DH's little episode! If not, it's just meant to be and ill be thrilled!

How is everyone?

I'm OK but would rather be in bed today. I'm glad you had a great time w/ your friends! Enjoy drinking and wild abandon while you can. :)

[iluvmyman]

Oh yeah, had my DD2's big IEP on Friday. We had her do a bunch of different testing. She is continuing w/ speech + once per month social interaction group to work on some social skills and will also be starting 45 min once a week of OT for writing. They can't diagnose ADHD through the school but the psychologist is sending us back to Kaiser (they said she didn't have it already) or a physclogist to have her re-evaluated. Fun times!

TTC5, what is it that your daughter has and what does that mean for her if she does?

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- glad your feeling better but sorry dd is still under the weather. I can't believe your attempt is so close, so exciting! I've never dreamt about any of my kids before they were born, in fact I'm rarely even pregnant in my dreams lol

Tink- glad your weekend went well and omg the wedding and your attempt are sooo close!!

B- ooh the prizes you could get...

Iluv- glad you've been sharing the news, its so great to be surrounded by others excitement when you're a bit scared. Screw dh move on in to those comfy pants lol I've been in mine for far longer then I'm willing to admit :)

Thanks ladies! The us ticker is purely self indulgent lol Some days I check in just to see my preg ticker and now I can be reminded how soon we find out too :bigsmile:

[iluvmyman]

3PNB, I think the U/S ticker is awesome and I might use one too. Indulge yourself! :)

[Tink18]

The wedding and the attempt are so close...Let's just see if I can keep DH on track. Last night when I got home his kind loving words for my girls weekend were " Did you have fun whoring it up one last time before I get you pregnant..Unless My shenanigans worked the other day, Do you think I got you?" He is so crazy, but so funny..makes me laugh so hard. So we shall see...either way it's all so close!!!!!

[Flava]

Never mind ladies. I have af here so it's CD 1 for me.
iluv -dont ask DH what to put on! I'm right there with you i have 3 shirt!!

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, thanks for the optimism! I sure hope you are right and this is my month. I am SICKKKKKKK of ttc and super sick of this diet and I honestly don't have much more in me.....maybe I can just start ttc with no swaying, but I am just SO OVER being 35lbs heavier than normal and having no clothes that fit and ya know, stuffing my tomato-hole all damn day long. Anywhooooo....rant over. Thank you for your support!

Iluv, I hear you about the unexcited parents.....mine are kinda like that also. I guess they are tired of hearing me announce I'm pg and then lose it. The thrill is wearing off. My sister is ttc right now also, and she told me to not tell them that she is, and that she won't even tell them she's pg until after 20 weeks if she does get pg! I guess she's seen too many losses and doesn't even feel like invoking the parental pity at this point. Anyway, all that matters is that YOU and the fam are excited....I know it's nice to have others care, but in reality, sometimes they just don't. Man, I wish you could get that carrier back, that sucks! I'm sure you've thought of this, but can you call the police dept and make a request? At least to get the thing examined and photographed or whatever before you have this new baby? I hope you are doing ok, thinking about ya.

Tink, what's up, girl? So not feeling like your oops came to fruition? Glad you had a good bachelorette weekend! You are attempting in another two months, right? I was just griping on the 2ww thread that I got invited to a dancer's bachelorette this Friday night, and I'll be 8dpo, so won't know if I should have a cocktail or not....PLUS I'll be the sad old fat lady there watching the 20-somethings whoop it up and guzzle alcohol....I may give it a go except that I am sort of the boss and they do like me enough to invite me....I'm normally fun at events like that with a few glasses of red in me, LOL. Well, I'm excited for your ttcing anyway, I am sure you will have a funny attempt story!!!

Flava, sorry bout AF.....you are trying in a couple of weeks, right?

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, I think you can have a glass of wine! I know plenty of people who had a small glass of wine occasionally during pregnancy. No one had any issues with their babies. But don't do anything you aren't comfortable with!

I hope you get a BFP s you can stop TTC. You have been doing this a LONG time!

[SweetLily]

Lola, I had some with ds3--I had an irritable uterus and contracted for 6 months, and another preggy mommy suggested. it worked like a charm and stopped contractions dead for a whole 24 hours each time--sweet relief!

that said, I heard if you are implanting it can effect the baby and wreck implant so unless you have had a nice ID, I thinki would skip it.

Lola, have you had a bunch of mcs? I am on #5 now--can't seem to hold a bean to save my life. waiting for it to pass and feeling awful. Please let me know if thats the case--I am surious what your drs are doing. after 4 kids myself you;d think i'd be fine. I am turning 35 in 2 weeks so my dr said to start taking 5 mg of folic. not sure if thats the recurrent mcs or the age factor, but she said to...

hugs... ps, I also emailed you today so go check! ;)

[Kris217]

Flava definitely don't count CD til full flow no matter what color the spotting, and if your full flow starts late night, count the next day as CD1. FX your O lines up nicely with the full moon!!! Sorry about the frustrating dreams where you're not having the baby... I keep wanting to dream about this baby but don't ...

WP I was the EXACT same with DD2; kept dreaming she was a boy, in spite of the u/s, and was therefore kind of thinking that maybe, just maybe, the u/s was wrong. It wasn't, LOL! WHOO HOO for mad amounts of ewcm! Fantastic about the temps too!

Any symptoms Lola or are you trying to avoid obsessing? I am SO believing this is your month. I get that it's easier to be optimistic for others. So I'm just going to be super optimistic for you; this is IT. I can't wait to see that BFP this time next week! You and ZB both!!! How great would that be?!?!

Jen what a great pic and ticker! Aaarrgh it is so close! I can't believe it! My DH is sure we're having girl #3 but so I told him we could have a bet, and I'll take boy. I have to come up with something good to get when I win, LOL!

Jane when is your next attempt, do you know yet?

Kris I'm also one that had no tearing. You have to do what is best for you. Is the Maxalon still keeping your nausea at bay? Hope so!

Thanks Begonia, most days the Maxalon is working and I hope it keeps up because the Zofran is $100 for 10 pills!

[jane]

Begonia,my attempt is just under a month away!

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: I was thinking about you yesterday....I would love to hide my pregnancy for a little while, my body just doesn't allow it. And DH wouldn't believe I was pg, he says as soon as I get a + my body just goes ahead and fulls up with all the amino flui...poor guys is still clueless after 6 children. You really should show a belly pic, I would love to see you baby hiding abilities :)

Lola: I am so sorry you are getting fed up with all the swaying. Hubby said the same thing, if this month didn't take....he wants me to return to my normal diet and try one more month before a break. This just has to be your month. Do you have any tests in the house?

iluv: Congrats on sharing your good news!!! I think everyone has someone that just has to start up with the negative remarks. My mother always says....I hope DH got a raise, so you guys can support another baby. It always makes us POed. We provide just fine for our children. But, she thinks all of their clothes should be Gymboree and blah blah blah. She is always excited when the new baby gets here though.

I didn't know the weird temp means I am dumping huge amounts of progesterone....that's good? Well, this morning it went up again and now it looks like a mountain. It should level off soon, right?

[Flava]

Im back to sick again:worry::sad: Not so much but I don't know what to do!
I guess I make a thread about it and see what everyone says.
Im so very disappointed.

WP- you can get a bfp with those tepms!

[LolaInLove]

Lola, I think you can have a glass of wine! I know plenty of people who had a small glass of wine occasionally during pregnancy. No one had any issues with their babies. But don't do anything you aren't comfortable with!

I hope you get a BFP s you can stop TTC. You have been doing this a LONG time!

THANK YOU, and yes, it's been forever! I probably had 10 glasses of wine before I knew I was pg with the girls, but since this has been taking so long, I would feel better about not drinking anything. I mean, I've been healthier than I've been in years, although heavier....but food-wise, I eat more, but it's all good stuff.

[LolaInLove]

Lola, I had some with ds3--I had an irritable uterus and contracted for 6 months, and another preggy mommy suggested. it worked like a charm and stopped contractions dead for a whole 24 hours each time--sweet relief!

that said, I heard if you are implanting it can effect the baby and wreck implant so unless you have had a nice ID, I thinki would skip it.

Lola, have you had a bunch of mcs? I am on #5 now--can't seem to hold a bean to save my life. waiting for it to pass and feeling awful. Please let me know if thats the case--I am surious what your drs are doing. after 4 kids myself you;d think i'd be fine. I am turning 35 in 2 weeks so my dr said to start taking 5 mg of folic. not sure if thats the recurrent mcs or the age factor, but she said to...

hugs... ps, I also emailed you today so go check! ;)

HEY L!!!!! Interesting about the wine stopping contractions! Way easier than meds, yea? Well, like I said in above post, I won't be able to drink knowing it may affect implantation....I mean, I would never know it, but what if my one glass and staying out late made my bean flush away?

I'm SO sorry to hear about the m/c....I did read your email, and that is just AWFUL.....do you think the residual matter is making you sick? I will email you back more about the m/c stuff and tests and all.

So glad you are on GD now!!! Are you still ttc girl? xxoo

[LolaInLove]

Lola: I am so sorry you are getting fed up with all the swaying. Hubby said the same thing, if this month didn't take....he wants me to return to my normal diet and try one more month before a break. This just has to be your month. Do you have any tests in the house?

I didn't know the weird temp means I am dumping huge amounts of progesterone....that's good? Well, this morning it went up again and now it looks like a mountain. It should level off soon, right?

Yea, it does look like a mountain! And yes, rising progesterone is very good! I'm so excited to see if you are pg!

And thanks, you ladies are all so sweet, I hope you are right and this is my month. I do have some tests, but will likely wait till 10dpo or so (Sunday). I might have to do the same thing and just drop it all and go for getting pg strategies only.....I don't think I am swaying that much, to be honest, just taking a lot of vitamins and eating little bits all day long, which I guess is good for fertility anyway. WP, you seem to make boys anyway, maybe you will be just fine!

[LolaInLove]

Im back to sick again:worry::sad: Not so much but I don't know what to do!
I guess I make a thread about it and see what everyone says.
Im so very disappointed.

WP- you can get a bfp with those tepms!

OH NO! I am so sorry!!! Are you still gonna go for it?

[begonia]

THANK YOU, and yes, it's been forever! I probably had 10 glasses of wine before I knew I was pg with the girls, but since this has been taking so long, I would feel better about not drinking anything. I mean, I've been healthier than I've been in years, although heavier....but food-wise, I eat more, but it's all good stuff.

Re: the drinking in the 2WW this was me; with DD1 I didn't know until 8 weeks (was on bcp's and not paying attention) and definitely had 2-3 drinks a week until I found out. And she's a-ok, but I did feel horrible about it once I knew I was pg. DD2 I was on vacay in the 2ww, we were NTNP, and I drank before I knew.

But Lola, I think just like you said ... you now is a different you than several years ago, and given your recent history of let's just call it crappy luck, I think you're better off abstaining. Booo. But ... let's hope you're going to be abstaining for the next 9 months :fingers:

[b3blue]

Just popping back on to say hi! I'll go read the last 5 pages or so but hope to start fresh in Sept!

Update on me I guess is that my suspected protein s deficiency could be a little more serious (rare type II form). So I have to repeat bloodwork at the end of this month to confirm. Doc says it was done too close to the end of my mc. So that means we're definitely TTA this cycle. We're still pressing on with the swaying stuff and the doc ok'd fish oil. Happy to report I have ewcm at CD9! Amazing!

[Flava]

OH NO! I am so sorry!!! Are you still gonna go for it?

I don't know I cry all morning here.Im so very sad ....like I just know all this months that something crap will happen when is time.:tissue:

[begonia]

Flava I replied on your other thread ... I'm so sorry!!!!

WP, I will post a pic of this one when I finally start to show! There's really nothing to see right now. And ... no one throw cyber tomatoes at me, but I typically just wear my regular jeans thru my entire pregnancy :rofl: I have no idea how because with both girls I gained about 40lbs. Your DH is funny! Does he think you're pg this time? I remember the 1st month when he was so confident in his abilities :bluesperm: and was telling you you were knocked up!

3PNB here's hoping the new weight distribution means boy for you!!! The only thing I have with this one that I didn't have with at least one of the other two is the CM. I really wish that junk would quit.

Jane how exciting!!!! FX you get a healthy sticky bean this first month back!

Kris wow, no clue that the zofran was so pricey! Double yay for Maxalon working then!

Iluv, interesting re: the kids wishing for a girl! I'm glad you have SOME people excited for you :happy: And you know we for sure are all excited! I can't believe they won't give you your Miyo back :mad: Hope the company will help you out if the police won't.

OK off to take dinner to a friend and her new baby girl! Hope everyone is having a good day!

[cemas]

Hi girls,

so a smiley today cd39! we bd yesterday night coz the Internet cheapies were +ve....
plan to bd again tonight but the ewcm seems lesser today. CP is high but seems a lil closed. could i have already Oed?
wonder whether we should do toniht or not?

Hope u het better soon Flava. try having a lots of natural vit C. thats seems to help get well sooner.

GL WP and Lola.

begonia u r lucky to have ur clothes fit....mine are not fitting even while ttc!

[3Pink1Blue]

Flava- sorry you're sick again, I like your plan start a thread and see was the masses say. Keep your head up :)

B3blue- interesting about the protein, kup! For me it was all about the fish oil, I ran out one month and dried up almost overnight! Started it up again and the flood gates opened, love that stuff!

B- regular pants your whole preg, yeah I hate you lol then again I've only gained 15, 17 and 30 lbs so that's way better then 40 :bigsmile: my cm is still out of control too, kinds nasty actually.

Cemas- so so glad you've finally gotten that smiley! On dtd tonight, if your cm hasn't turned creamy I say go for it! Fx for a bfp!

Well I've got a sicky here too. Dd3 has a flemmy cough, a fever and some ear pain caused by sinus congestion. I don't know what it is about being sick and wanting a blanket but she's gotta have one today so the a/c is cranked to keep her comfy. She's in just her panties and blanket but her fevers got her toasty, I've on jeans and a long sleeve shirt and I'm freezing. I'm thinking of changing into a sweater, oh what we do for little sick ones.

[LolaInLove]

YAY Cemas, hope you caught the egg! Will be pulling for you!!!!

Jane, good luck on this next cycle! All hoping you get a sticky bean this time around.

3PNB, sorry about your sicky, I hope she feels better. Nothing worse than an uncomfortable little one. I hope you don't catch it also.

Kris, glad your meds are working, and yea, expensive! Gotta do what you gotta do.

Flava, I am so sorry! I saw your other thread also and I agree with the ladies that if you feel better in the next few days, don't cancel the cycle. Just keep eating a ton and taking your supps and maybe you will kick it sooner than you think. XXOO

[Flava]

cemas-hope you get a bfp this time! If you have + opk then try it again if you don't care about the timing thing...

3pink-sorry your DD3 is sick like that! Hope she get better soon!! hugs

Thanks for help .I think If Im not sick after AF then we try this month but if Im sick we just have to wait. Called DH and told him and he said ok. so now I wait...

[ELP]

Oh no Flava! But at least you'll be one month more into boy territory:agree:

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: Yeah, DH is a trip!!! I love him more than anyone else on earth (my kids come second). He hasn't said anything about me being pg, yet. But he always thinks he has acheived his goal....into AF shows :) Yeah, we all feel soooooo bad for you that you have to wear your jeans for you whole pregnancy.....cry me a river LOL!!! I enjoy having a preggo belly, but I wish it would wait until....maybe 20+ weeks. So sweet of you to bring a meal to a new Mommy. I have a signature that all my friends and family wait on after a new baby.....homemade chicken pot pie and choc brownies.

Flava: I agree, if you better before AF is gone....your good to go.

Cemas: Congrats on the +opk. I would BD just to be sure.

3pnb: Sorry about your sick little one. But, sweaters and cold weather are sounds Oh so good.

[begonia]

WP I love that you have a signature dish for friends! And I really love chicken pot pie. Mmmm. Went with the basic lasagna today, always popular and freezes so well!

Seriously Jen the cm ... it just grosses me out :mad: I thought it would quit by now. Sorry you've got a sick DD also! Rotten summer colds!

Hi ELP! How are you feeling?!?!

Cemas I'm thinking check the OPK again to be sure you don't hit O+12 but I wouldn't hesitate to DTD again tonight if you're sure you aren't in o+12. Get more of those :bluesperm: in there!

Yay for the EWCM b3b!!!! Keep us posted!

Speaking of keeping us posted, TTC5 hope all is well with DD. Thinking you had an appt yesterday for her?

[Tink18]

So here is my night. I am having some AF like cramping. It's been going on all day. I have been so tired today...(this could also be from my wild weekend) but the last thing is making me a little weirded out...I have been having heart Palpitations. They started about an hour ago...I feel like my heart is going to jump out of my chest and then when i felt my pulse it was racing. I called my advice nurse. The first thing she asked is if i could be pregnant..I said there is a small chance! I am going to the Doctor tomorrow at 10 to make sure this heart palpitations are ok...it freaked me out.

[jane]

thanx all,only 3 weeks till my next try:nails: ive upped my folic acid and really been sticking to my diet,im getting used to this now,it seems to be my way of life! anyway, i hope the next time its a sticker:fx:

[ELP]

Hi ELP! How are you feeling?!?!


Really good:) I got my scan tomorrow!!!!! Can't wait! Only thing I'll be 11+5/6 by my dates so nut ideal for a nub but the confirmation of a heartbeat will be more than enough:HH: This thread is so exciting with all the attempts and 2ww's!!!! We are going to have a mass of bfp's v.soon, can you imagine if in a year's time we could get a picture of all the blue threads babies together:) Someone will have to win the lotto first:bigsmile:

[Flava]

thanx all,only 3 weeks till my next try:nails: ive upped my folic acid and really been sticking to my diet,im getting used to this now,it seems to be my way of life! anyway, i hope the next time its a sticker:fx:

I really hope you get a sticky bfp next time!

[Flava]

ELP- I can't wait to see pics!!! You must post it !:agree:

[Flava]

Im still sick ...and DD4 too. We had this same think like 2 times in the summer .She has a runny nose but it's just clear no color at all looks like glass.
If I don't get better I will not ttc. Omg I did not think this will be so hard to let go...it's very hard to skip a month when you all ready.
Also I had a weird dream last night .I was in the hospital ( don't know why Im not planning to go near to it) Anyway they wanted to do a c/s on me and I was 37 weeks pregnant and I said no way, then they wanted to give me a shot so I pass out and can't get away ...it was so scary..So I got away and they where chasing us on the road at night ..omg anyway they said something that they have to make sure she is ok ...and she is so and so...I was like why she??? How do you know it's a girl? I never had a u/s so no1 know...but they didn't say why she or if they really know or not.

maybe it's a sign not to ttc again? Or at least not this month:worry: or it's just a stupid dream .I don't know why can't I ever dream that Im having a boy?? I hate dreams that's it!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, I'm sorry you are having these dreams! Don't put too much stock in them....I believe that dreams are a manifestation of our fears and thoughts in the subconscious, but nothing more. Like no future visions or anything. I have recurring dreams that my parents are old and dying and alone, that all my teeth have fallen out, that my babies are being kidnapped, bulls&$t like that. I conjure those images up when I need to cry on cue, LOL. But SERIOUSLY, don't think about that. Just concentrate on feeling better, and ya know what, if you need to wait a month, it's not going to be the end of the world. At least your DH is cool about that. I am so sorry you feel bad and have been stressing, hun. xxoo

Tink, that is verrrryyyy interesting....and of course, I'm sorry you are feeling badly also! Are you gonna test?

Jane, good for you for sticking with the diet! It so does become a way of life after a while, no? FX for this next try!

ELP, YAYYYYY for your scan! So excited to hear about the results. Are you going to find out gender? You made me smile thinking about all of our baby boys, LOL. We should start a baby photo gallery here when the first ones start to come along.

As for moi, 6dpo and felt stuffy and kinda wack this morning, which made me a little excited, to be honest, because I always get a bit under the weather in the 2ww when pg. Of course, could be nothing. I have been remarkably well the last year, though, due to these antioxidants and supps. I may cave and test on Friday morning, but must be prepared for bfn.

[begonia]

Oh ELP you must post a pic nub or not! It's so fun to see the bean; can't believe you're already almost 12 weeks! Can't wait to hear all about it :cool:

Jane here's to a great attempt and a super sticky BFP!

Flava, goodness, I'm so sorry about the stressful dream! Maybe when they were saying "she" though they were talking about you?!? I don't know ... regardless dreams do freak you out so I understand. I still remember the dream I had weeks ago where I found out at my NT scan that it was a boy but it wasn't healthy :worry: I feel much better now that the scan has passed and neither of those things came out of it. Sorry to hear you and DD are still sick :sad:

Jen how's your little sick one today? Better I hope.

Lola how many DPO now?!?! Any symptoms? :pray: I really want to see you get a BFP.

You too, WP, any symptoms for you? Temps still climbing?

FX for ZB and Cemas too!!!! C'mon BFP party! :fingers:

Tink KUP on your doctors appt. Hopefully it is nothing at all and you're a-ok!

AFM my BFF and I were comparing my early scan photos to her DS's ... she has 2 of the most precious boys. We're SURE it's a boy in my belly :rofl: I still feel like I'm going to be happy with either but now that DH and I have a bet going I really want to win :bigsmile:

[begonia]

Flava, I'm sorry you are having these dreams! Don't put too much stock in them....I believe that dreams are a manifestation of our fears and thoughts in the subconscious, but nothing more.

This seems to apply to me as well ... at least the dreams that I do remember, are often based on my fears and concerns.

OH Lola I know you said that you got the stuffy stuff (very descriptive there, LOL) with your pg in the past!!!!! I hope so very very very much that it is a pg symptom again.

[LolaInLove]

This seems to apply to me as well ... at least the dreams that I do remember, are often based on my fears and concerns.

OH Lola I know you said that you got the stuffy stuff (very descriptive there, LOL) with your pg in the past!!!!! I hope so very very very much that it is a pg symptom again.

Thanks, chica! Well, the other months I got pg, I had something going on between 5-9dpo....I'm 6dpo today. So not wanting to get my hopes up, but I REALLLLLLY hope this is it also.....this morning, I had those feelings of giving up , just being OK with my 2 girls and moving on into a more career-focused existence, so to speak. I'm just starting to get depressed about it all....like every time I see a baby IRL or on tv, it gets me sad. The only babies that don't get me sad are my IRL and GD's friends' babies, of course. That actually keeps me hopeful!

[LolaInLove]

This seems to apply to me as well ... at least the dreams that I do remember, are often based on my fears and concerns.

OH Lola I know you said that you got the stuffy stuff (very descriptive there, LOL) with your pg in the past!!!!! I hope so very very very much that it is a pg symptom again.

Thanks, chica! Well, the other months I got pg, I had something going on between 5-9dpo....I'm 6dpo today. So not wanting to get my hopes up, but I REALLLLLLY hope this is it also.....this morning, I had those feelings of giving up , just being OK with my 2 girls and moving on into a more career-focused existence, so to speak. I'm just starting to get depressed about it all....like every time I see a baby IRL or on tv, it gets me sad. The only babies that don't get me sad are my IRL and GD's friends' babies, of course. That actually keeps me hopeful!

[WashingtonPromise]

I will have to come back on later to see ELP's pics!!! Can't miss baby pics.

My temp did drop today. I hope that's okay, but I knew it couldn't keep climbing.

Lola: You crack me up...."crying on cue". Congrats on the stuffys.....I guess :)

[iluvmyman]

Begonia, thanks for the optimism! I sure hope you are right and this is my month. I am SICKKKKKKK of ttc and super sick of this diet and I honestly don't have much more in me.....maybe I can just start ttc with no swaying, but I am just SO OVER being 35lbs heavier than normal and having no clothes that fit and ya know, stuffing my tomato-hole all damn day long. Anywhooooo....rant over. Thank you for your support!

Iluv, I hear you about the unexcited parents.....mine are kinda like that also. I guess they are tired of hearing me announce I'm pg and then lose it. The thrill is wearing off. My sister is ttc right now also, and she told me to not tell them that she is, and that she won't even tell them she's pg until after 20 weeks if she does get pg! I guess she's seen too many losses and doesn't even feel like invoking the parental pity at this point. Anyway, all that matters is that YOU and the fam are excited....I know it's nice to have others care, but in reality, sometimes they just don't. Man, I wish you could get that carrier back, that sucks! I'm sure you've thought of this, but can you call the police dept and make a request? At least to get the thing examined and photographed or whatever before you have this new baby? I hope you are doing ok, thinking about ya.

I hear you about the weight and the diet. I was so good at the beginning but when it drags on for months and months it's much harder to keep up. I think my uterus is finally catching up to my fat. I can't wait for my tummy to be all baby.

I had a talk w/ my Dad and he said he's just scared now since my son died. He's scared for my sister due end of October too. I feel much better after talking to him about it and I understand his concerns. Like your family, Lola, it's hard to be overjoyed when you know how fragile it all is. It's a hard balance for all involved I think. My friends mom (who rocks) cried. I can always count on her to have the best reaction. :)

I was scared to ask the cops for my hammock back just as not to stir everything up but we got paperwork from the medical review board yesterday asking us to submit to handing over all of our medical paperwork. Our doula will be getting a lawyer and I don't expect to make this easy for the review board and will follow the lawyers advice. I might ask for my hammock back since it wasn't part of the C.O.D. but I doubt they'll ever give it back. I just told her I was pregnant too. She was very happy for us but I feel weird like we get to move on and her crap is just beginning. Not really moving moving on, but you know what I mean.

I'm so praying for your BFP Lola and that this pregnancy is wonderful and you go to term!!

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, WP....I am feeling just pissy and crappy today, so I hope that is a good thing, although it does suck. Don't worry too much about your temps. If you notice on FF, preggo charts don't always have a steep climb to the top and stay there. The majority have dips in the 2ww. Oh, so hoping we get lucky this month!

[iluvmyman]

Ouch WP, that's a pretty harsh comment from mom's. Money is a hard one, we don't have any either but should that really make the difference for not creating life. Although, if you are on food stamps and such you should consider if you can provide the basics, it's hard one. MY DH could use a raise too. That's the sacrifice of 1 income though.

Oh Flava! SO Sorry Girly! I remember w/ my cycle messed up it was a little like Of coarse, I'm starting my M. Cycle when I s/b ovulating. FX for you!

B3blue, is the protein deficiency fixable?

[LolaInLove]

THANKS, Iluv, your prayers mean a lot to me! :HH: You know you have mine as well. Well POOP about the carrier, that does stink. Do you feel like your doula was at fault at all? It must be hard for her, too, but you know, hopefully justice will prevail. Everyone makes mistakes, just that some are really really important ones to not make, and not make again. I can't recall if you thought there was medical malpractice of any sort, though. How are you feeling?

[iluvmyman]

Lola, the sicky is encouraging. I started w/ feeling like I was starting a cold in the back of my throat. Just like the 1st beginnings of a cold. I hope I hope I hope!!!!

[LolaInLove]

Iluv, I forgot to comment of your dad's remarks about his fears- I think that is totally normal and very sweet for him to admit that to you....I think mine are a bit in the same boat, they don't want to get too excited until there is a bona fide baby in there. Heck, my FIL told my DH to not tell his mom (mil) until all is well next time because she gets too upset about my m/c. I was like SHE gets too upset????? Anyway, this would be their first grandkid, so they are in the crazy happy giddy phase about it. Like, she'll probably throw me a shower, LOL. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think it's sweet when parents still get worried and care about their adult kids like that, kinda makes you feel like you are their baby girl still, in a way. I certainly hope that both you and your sis have bouncing bundles to quell their fears!

[iluvmyman]

THANKS, Iluv, your prayers mean a lot to me! :HH: You know you have mine as well. Well POOP about the carrier, that does stink. Do you feel like your doula was at fault at all? It must be hard for her, too, but you know, hopefully justice will prevail. Everyone makes mistakes, just that some are really really important ones to not make, and not make again. I can't recall if you thought there was medical malpractice of any sort, though. How are you feeling?

The autopsy is so sketchy like probables but no definite answers from what I can tell. Like we know what he ultimately died from but why? when? how did it occur is the ? No, I don't blame the doula. The truth is that God could have saved him and he didn't for whatever his divine purpose is and I will probably never know. And it's just a crappy world and it happens. I think it's how you deal w/ it and what you do w/ the pain and how you use it to honor God that matters now.

I just hope that our story can be used to help someone in some way. I don't blame anyone really, most the time. More myself I guess then anyone. Right or wrong I'm the mom and it just is. There are things we may s/h caught, but he just could have been severely brain damaged instead if we did catch it. Probably will never know. She can lose her license though & it would really be up to the D.A., medical board and lawyers to hash out the probable, the blame and the outcome. I really don't know but don't see her getting away w/o revoking her license, which just sucks!!! Dr.'s get sued for the final C.O.D all the time but they fight it, so I would think it would set some sort of precedence but I'm not sure.

The carrier stinks cuz of the cost. The company hasn't responded either but it's an open ticket so they need to at some time. :)

I'm doing OK, just tired, on/off nauseous, and mood swings. I can do OK till about 3p.m. then I end up in bed. Somedays I start and end super tired though. I literally woke up w/ a random headache on one side of my brain and woke up w/ it again this morning but seems to be getting better at the moment. DH is gone for Thurs. morning - Monday night so I'd better figure out a way to make it work. Just is hard being so tired when there's so much to do. I just need to make it for another 2 - 4 weeks then I'll be dandy. The house is soooo bad right now. :)

[iluvmyman]

Iluv, I forgot to comment of your dad's remarks about his fears- I think that is totally normal and very sweet for him to admit that to you....I think mine are a bit in the same boat, they don't want to get too excited until there is a bona fide baby in there. Heck, my FIL told my DH to not tell his mom (mil) until all is well next time because she gets too upset about my m/c. I was like SHE gets too upset????? Anyway, this would be their first grandkid, so they are in the crazy happy giddy phase about it. Like, she'll probably throw me a shower, LOL. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I think it's sweet when parents still get worried and care about their adult kids like that, kinda makes you feel like you are their baby girl still, in a way. I certainly hope that both you and your sis have bouncing bundles to quell their fears!

That would be my MIL too. She is wonderful but...it's not about you! :) Well, 1st grandkid too, that's a hard 1 for them. I wish my sister was having hers sooner just to make ME feel better. :) I'm like a MIL too I guess. :) I'm glad I talked to my Dad. Quite frankly, and I told him this, since we live w/ them they are the only people that I will give any allowance too, but even then they are treading on thin ice. :) I gave him my nice little speech anyway.

That just leaves my "judgmental friend", my friend/employer, my brother who's been trying for years to have a baby and miscellaneous people. Saving the best for last. :)

[begonia]

:hugs: Iluv for all you have going on. Glad your Dad opened up to you though.

Lola that's sweet that MIL is going to be super excited :) Too cute about her throwing a shower ... but really, it's her first grandbaby so totally understand why she will want the full experience! Hopefully she isn't overbearing about it all.

[iluvmyman]

My friends always throw me a shower and vise versa no matter how many kids we have. How does everyone else feel about that? They are definitely not the huge 1st baby showers but w/ your close friends and family. I'm not sure how I feel about it this time. Everything they get helps and I do need more cloth diapers but we didn't get to use anything from our last baby, then getting more? I had saved all of my cleaning money for months to buy stuff for this baby but had to spend it on bills. Yuck!

[iluvmyman]

Update Tink! Update!

[begonia]

I think the showers are awesome, Iluv, and sweet that your friends want to do that for you. If you have all that you feel you need perhaps just have a no-gift baby celebration? I hosted a "sip and see" for a friend who had her 2nd child, where you do it after the baby is born (her babe was 2 months old) and people didn't bring gifts, just came to celebrate and meet the little one. It was really fun!

[iluvmyman]

There is always stuff that I could use so I'll have to play it by ear. It used to be a big no no but now lots of people have multiple showers.

[cemas]

Need some help/info

Has anyone found their O to come early while taking B6 50mg or in a B-complex??

I have a LP of 11 days which is borderline but i have long cycles...I O only after cd23 and as late as cd40. I heard that too much estrogen can delay O and also estrogen build up reduces progesterone production.
B6 can help and so i am planning to take it. Was concerned abt it being girl supp.But seems that it should be OK now.

Anyone with a Boy sway or Boy moms who took B6 or B-complex and good results?

http://www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/fo...topic=226042.0

[Tink18]

Well they want to run more tests. He said it sounded like an SVT attack which is found in kids...so I was confused. My 3 year niece has SVT and she is suppose to grow out of it...if not she will have to has sugery. Apparently the way i explained it is the exact symptoms and he said adults can get it. SO they want me to wear a heart monitor to see if it happens again and they can find a definite reason why I was sure I was going to die last night. I know the differece between anxiety and not..this was not anxiety. This was so scary. I only saw my reg doc but i made an app with my OB, I need to see her anyway. I have to 2 years after having DD. But i wanted to wait until after AF comes? If she does...I just don't have that "im pregnant feeling" like i did with DD, but i am so crampy today, i don't understand. WE Dtd 5 days before I Ovulated..if am in fact pregnant...it's totally a girl! lol. either way...I cant wait to find out...I am basically saying F it....i think i am gonna go for it next month. I cant risk another oops form DH. I want to be prepared. When he pulled this last one I said "you didn't even drink a red bull or ice your boys" He said "the fan was on and I had some koolaid" isnt that good enough. This guy kills me. I love reproducing with his sexy ass.

[Alexis2007]

Hey ladies! Update on me....

Started spotting brown this morning. Called dr they said it was normal. An hour later I'm bleeding red!! I just know I'm having a chemical pregnancy miscarriage. :( But my cramps are not bad and the bleeding is now a dark reddish brown color. I'm so confused. I have my pregnancy confirmation appt tomorrow afternoon so I should know something then.

[daisyfay311]

Hey ladies, just popping in to give an update on me.

Last night I started having this crazy back pain--lower back, down the right side of my butt and leg. Then while I was trying to sleep, I kept noticing uncomfortable cramping in my abdomen. It was on both sides a bit and then increasingly just on the right. It was very uncomfortable and I couldn't sleep. Finally I woke up DH and he helped look up things online for me. Of course, one of the first things was ectopic pregnancy. He was like, go take a pregnancy test now! I was pretty sure I was pregnant because af was late but I had wanted to wait a bit longer to test. But anyway, I tested early early this morning and got a bfp!

I was so worried about the cramping that I called my doctor this morning and they had me come in for blood work. My beta is 571. I don't know if that is supposed to be good? They seemed to think it was fine. I'm supposed to go back Friday to see how it looks then and my first regular appointment is the 14th.

I'm sure it could be a variety of things but I'm nervous about it, particularly that it's so uncomfortable and just on one side. I do remember having cramps with Lillie but I don't think it was just on one side and I don't think it was this sharp. Of course, my symptoms now are already different from when I was expecting her, so who knows. And my menstrual cramps are usually very mild so I guess my cramp frame of reference isn't great.

Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic for now and just waiting to see what will happen. All vibes and thoughts and advice and shared experiences welcome. Oh, and I took an Advil last night for which the nurse promptly chastised me so if anyone has any "took an Advil early and baby didn't immediately disintegrate" stories, those are also good.

Nothing is ever easy. Sigh.

ETA: Due date would be first week of May, SO perfect for two teachers. And I think my sway was good, at least I was doing bsd, coconut water, eating breakfast, larabars, meat, all that, supplements, pre-seed...SO much was different from dd. But I feel like no matter what it is our baby and that's what matters and right now, I just want baby to be okay. :(

[LolaInLove]

That would be my MIL too. She is wonderful but...it's not about you! :) Well, 1st grandkid too, that's a hard 1 for them. I wish my sister was having hers sooner just to make ME feel better. :) I'm like a MIL too I guess. :) I'm glad I talked to my Dad. Quite frankly, and I told him this, since we live w/ them they are the only people that I will give any allowance too, but even then they are treading on thin ice. :) I gave him my nice little speech anyway.

That just leaves my "judgmental friend", my friend/employer, my brother who's been trying for years to have a baby and miscellaneous people. Saving the best for last. :)

Well, if anyone is NOT happy for you, they are an a$$hole. After all you've been through, you deserve some lifting up from those around you. If they are worried, so be it, but they need to be loving and supportive!

[LolaInLove]

There is always stuff that I could use so I'll have to play it by ear. It used to be a big no no but now lots of people have multiple showers.

I'm all about showers, even if it's #10! Everybody needs something, even if it's a buttload of disposable diapers or frozen dishes for after baby is born. My MIL is not overbearing at all, she was a laid back blue collar mom....in fact, I have to watch her with my girls that she doesn't overload them with candy, etc.

[LolaInLove]

Need some help/info

Has anyone found their O to come early while taking B6 50mg or in a B-complex??

I have a LP of 11 days which is borderline but i have long cycles...I O only after cd23 and as late as cd40. I heard that too much estrogen can delay O and also estrogen build up reduces progesterone production.
B6 can help and so i am planning to take it. Was concerned abt it being girl supp.But seems that it should be OK now.

Anyone with a Boy sway or Boy moms who took B6 or B-complex and good results?

http://www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/fo...topic=226042.0


Cemas, sorry hun but I don't know much about B6 effects....or the estrogen/progesterone thing.....I would make a post in the gender swaying discussion forum and hope that Atomic answers, she knows all about that stuff. They used to say B6 was a girl supp because it increased progesterone and that was girly, so they thought. I hope you get some answers! I still think you need to try femara or something though, just my opinion. What does your doc think about your long cycles?

[LolaInLove]

Well they want to run more tests. He said it sounded like an SVT attack which is found in kids...so I was confused. My 3 year niece has SVT and she is suppose to grow out of it...if not she will have to has sugery. Apparently the way i explained it is the exact symptoms and he said adults can get it. SO they want me to wear a heart monitor to see if it happens again and they can find a definite reason why I was sure I was going to die last night. I know the differece between anxiety and not..this was not anxiety. This was so scary. I only saw my reg doc but i made an app with my OB, I need to see her anyway. I have to 2 years after having DD. But i wanted to wait until after AF comes? If she does...I just don't have that "im pregnant feeling" like i did with DD, but i am so crampy today, i don't understand. WE Dtd 5 days before I Ovulated..if am in fact pregnant...it's totally a girl! lol. either way...I cant wait to find out...I am basically saying F it....i think i am gonna go for it next month. I cant risk another oops form DH. I want to be prepared. When he pulled this last one I said "you didn't even drink a red bull or ice your boys" He said "the fan was on and I had some koolaid" isnt that good enough. This guy kills me. I love reproducing with his sexy ass.

OMG, so sorry you felt that awful, that IS scary!!!! Glad you are ok. When is your AF due? Have you tested? I wouldn't think it would matter if you see your OB now or later, if now she can run a beta anyway, or just do a hpt there. You NEVER know, you could be this time. I felt way pg with DD1, like immediately, and not at all with DD2. The only reason I tested was because AF had not come and I felt dizzy at the gym.....the kids care ladies were betting I was pg, so I got a test. Anyway, are you taking potassium, or perchance doing anything that is excessive like eating 5 bananas a day? I know ladies who sway boy have gotten heart palps from too much potassium. You are so cute about your DH, love it!!!! I hope you do reproduce with his ass sooner than later!

[LolaInLove]

Hey ladies! Update on me....

Started spotting brown this morning. Called dr they said it was normal. An hour later I'm bleeding red!! I just know I'm having a chemical pregnancy miscarriage. :( But my cramps are not bad and the bleeding is now a dark reddish brown color. I'm so confused. I have my pregnancy confirmation appt tomorrow afternoon so I should know something then.

OHHHHH NOOOOOO!!!!! I will be praying hard core tonight that it's just a little early no-big-deal bleeding. I am so sorry, Alexis! Is the flow getting heavier or tapering off? Cramps seem AF like? Sorry, I've had 2 chems and a later one, ya know, so I can tell you that the chems just seem like you are starting AF, but you get some painful cramps for sure. I am SO glad you are going to the dr tomorrow....hopefully they will do a beta and an u/s. Try to stay off your feet and rest tonight. There is really nothing you can do to prevent a m/c, but if it's no-biggie pg bleeding, you need to chill so it will subside. I hope you are doing ok!!!! Just know that if it is, it is SUPER common and you can get pg again immediately if you want to. XOXOXOXO

[Alexis2007]

Lola the flow has lessened which never was heavy. The cramps are AF like and not bad at all. I had a miscarriage before DD1 and the cramps were excruciating and the bleeding was heavy. It's nothing like that.

[3Pink1Blue]

Jane - FX for a very sticky blue bean!

ELP - so excited for pics, nub or not!

Flava - Sorry you're sick again. I'm with Lola, I think it's a dream about what you're afraid of and I don't think you'll ever dream about boys till you have one. Its hard after so much pink to have any idea what blue would be like.

Lola - Love the idea of a photo gallery!

B - dd doing better and worse I'll explain below lol

iluv - so glad you and your dad talked and your mom's friend cried. I've never gotten a reaction like that ever from anyone. FX you get your hammock back and things don't go too rough for your doula. I hear ya on the exhausted by 3 and the messy house. I'm just waiting for nesting to kick in, dh is too lol FX your last few announcements go smoothly :) As far as baby showers go I never had one with dd1. Since we didn't find out we were waiting till she was born to have one but then my grandma had heart surgery and it just never happened. We had one with dd2 but with dd3 we had a "Baby-Q", we threw a big bbq and invited everyone to come see our new baby. If it's a boy we'll have a big one but if it's another girl we'll do an after the fact again.

Tink - so you're ok then? ttc next month?! Woohoo, are you sure?

Alexis - so sorry hun, fx this is nothing. Let us know what they say tomorrow :(

Daisy - Congrats!! WOOHOO!!


Well ladies dd3 is sort of doing better. She's still coughing and now has a double ear infection, luckily for her she doesn't feel them so she's actually doing quite well today lol We had her 4 yr appt and other then all that she's great, 75th percentile on height and 50th in weight. She got 4 shots (immunizations) and never made a peep, for this she earned M&M's. Her poor little legs are a bit sore but nothing a dose of ibuprofen couldn't fix, such a toughy :)

[LolaInLove]

Hey ladies, just popping in to give an update on me.

Last night I started having this crazy back pain--lower back, down the right side of my butt and leg. Then while I was trying to sleep, I kept noticing uncomfortable cramping in my abdomen. It was on both sides a bit and then increasingly just on the right. It was very uncomfortable and I couldn't sleep. Finally I woke up DH and he helped look up things online for me. Of course, one of the first things was ectopic pregnancy. He was like, go take a pregnancy test now! I was pretty sure I was pregnant because af was late but I had wanted to wait a bit longer to test. But anyway, I tested early early this morning and got a bfp!

I was so worried about the cramping that I called my doctor this morning and they had me come in for blood work. My beta is 571. I don't know if that is supposed to be good? They seemed to think it was fine. I'm supposed to go back Friday to see how it looks then and my first regular appointment is the 14th.

I'm sure it could be a variety of things but I'm nervous about it, particularly that it's so uncomfortable and just on one side. I do remember having cramps with Lillie but I don't think it was just on one side and I don't think it was this sharp. Of course, my symptoms now are already different from when I was expecting her, so who knows. And my menstrual cramps are usually very mild so I guess my cramp frame of reference isn't great.

Anyway, I'm cautiously optimistic for now and just waiting to see what will happen. All vibes and thoughts and advice and shared experiences welcome. Oh, and I took an Advil last night for which the nurse promptly chastised me so if anyone has any "took an Advil early and baby didn't immediately disintegrate" stories, those are also good.

Nothing is ever easy. Sigh.

ETA: Due date would be first week of May, SO perfect for two teachers. And I think my sway was good, at least I was doing bsd, coconut water, eating breakfast, larabars, meat, all that, supplements, pre-seed...SO much was different from dd. But I feel like no matter what it is our baby and that's what matters and right now, I just want baby to be okay. :(

Oh wow, Daisy, CONGRATS!!!! I hate that your good news is veiled with worry, but hopefully it is nothing. A friend of mine had an ectopic, and she had to have her tube removed. Then her doc put her on Clomid to make sure one ovary would put out an egg, and well, it put out two and she had b/g twinkies. Anyway, I don't know if you always have to have your tube removed, but if so, it's not that big of a deal, from what I understand. Girl, I hope all is ok. I mean, it could just be a pulling in your uterus already......I will be praying for you also, hun.

OMG, so many worries with everyone right now!!!! I am so cheering for a good outcome for everyone. HUGS>>>>>>

[LolaInLove]

Lola the flow has lessened which never was heavy. The cramps are AF like and not bad at all. I had a miscarriage before DD1 and the cramps were excruciating and the bleeding was heavy. It's nothing like that.

OH GOOD!!!!! It's good you've been there before so you have a point of reference, and know it's not the end of the world if so.....but that makes me feel better, that it may be no big deal. LOTS of women spot and bleed once or all throughout pregnancy......put a post out there and see the responses maybe? I know some women get an AF like bleed once a month, it's rare but happens....I think Atomic had that. A girl on our IG crew bled the whole time, and she has a bouncing 3 month old baby boy now. Hope all is ok, hun!

[LolaInLove]

3pnb, glad your baby is doing better! I know she must be a bit miserable. I love the Baby-Q idea, how cool! I hope you get to have a big shower this time, of course!

[3Pink1Blue]

Me too Lola, my bff is dying to throw me one!

[Tink18]

Lola the flow has lessened which never was heavy. The cramps are AF like and not bad at all. I had a miscarriage before DD1 and the cramps were excruciating and the bleeding was heavy. It's nothing like that.

Omg I was so upset when I read your first post! Hopefully this all works out. Seems like a crampy month for pregnancy! maybe this means we will all have rambunctious little boys!!! Please keep us updated!!!

[Tink18]

I am not going to test till AF is late, is she is then I will. I am due next tues. This cramping shit is killing me though. If not, I think we will go for it next month...I say Fuck it...literally..Whats a month I can wear spanks!

[Tink18]

Oh wow, Daisy, CONGRATS!!!! I hate that your good news is veiled with worry, but hopefully it is nothing. A friend of mine had an ectopic, and she had to have her tube removed. Then her doc put her on Clomid to make sure one ovary would put out an egg, and well, it put out two and she had b/g twinkies. Anyway, I don't know if you always have to have your tube removed, but if so, it's not that big of a deal, from what I understand. Girl, I hope all is ok. I mean, it could just be a pulling in your uterus already......I will be praying for you also, hun.

OMG, so many worries with everyone right now!!!! I am so cheering for a good outcome for everyone. HUGS>>>>>>

I totally feel the same way. All the sudden so many things going on! I really hope everything is good to go! and congrats on the BFP!!!

[Tink18]

What happens if you pee on an ovulation stick for fun and you get a very slight line?

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink- almost anytime you pee on an opk you'll get a slight line, I peed on one after my bfp to see what would happen and it was a full positive.

[Flava]

Alexis - hope you ok and it's nothing at all!
Daisy- http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/667/667594r62hyr5cwg.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Flava]

Hey ty girls for all the well wishes!
DH keep on saying it may be allergy ....I don't know but Im like Lola ever since I started all this green sups I wasn't sick and all the kids was once in the summer and normally I get it too and Im sick for weeks. But not this time.
And now only me and DD4 are, only she got runny nose and I don't.
But so does it matter if you sick from a cold or allergy for ttc? I don't think so sick is sick right?:sad:
Funny thing is I was sick the first day then not sick on the second the sick again and now Im a lot better again. I think Im back to sick tomorrow morning.:hair:

[Flava]

Oh and thanks for all the comments about my crazy dream! It can make us worry for sure.

[jane]

Alexis one way to find out if it's a chemical is to take a pregnancy test,that's what I did and it came up negative which made me realise it was.hope you get good news though,rest up and try not to worry.thinking of youx

[Tink18]

That is so weird when i peed on it when i wasn't Ovulating that baby is stark white. I just wanted to pee on something and Dh wasn't feeling R-kelly.like.

[LolaInLove]

Alexis one way to find out if it's a chemical is to take a pregnancy test,that's what I did and it came up negative which made me realise it was.hope you get good news though,rest up and try not to worry.thinking of youx

Yep, that is true. You will get just a few days of hcg in your system, and us early testers catch that and think we are pg. When I had my chem in January, I was like 5 weeks exactly and went to the dr. They did a regular test and it came up negative. And an aside about Obgyners and chemicals....sometimes they don't "recognize" them as pregnancies or even know what they are, believe it or not! I was at a new doctor because it was across the street from my office downtown, and she comes in and tells me I'm not pregnant and gives me a look like I was some crazy who just wished to be pg. I told her I had 3 positive tests 3 days in a row, and she acted like I was lying. It was annoying. I called my awesome doctor (who doesn't do ob anymore, just gyn) and she was like DUH, you had a chemical. And she called the new office and complained to the chief there. LOL Anyway, if they give you that crap (and again, hopefully all is just fine!!!!!), just know that's what it is.

[LolaInLove]

That is so weird when i peed on it when i wasn't Ovulating that baby is stark white. I just wanted to pee on something and Dh wasn't feeling R-kelly.like.

LMAO!!! You are a trip, girl. 3pnb is right, there is usually a bit of a line except in around CD1-7 or so. I think you should go out and get you a test later and take it in the morning....you'd be what, like 10dpo? That is, if you feel like peeing on things!

[LolaInLove]

SEPTEMBER THREAD! Jump over.....

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?5217-September-TTC-Boy-Chit-Chat-and-Such-Thread&p=73285#post73285

[jane]

Yep, that is true. You will get just a few days of hcg in your system, and us early testers catch that and think we are pg. When I had my chem in January, I was like 5 weeks exactly and went to the dr. They did a regular test and it came up negative. And an aside about Obgyners and chemicals....sometimes they don't "recognize" them as pregnancies or even know what they are, believe it or not! I was at a new doctor because it was across the street from my office downtown, and she comes in and tells me I'm not pregnant and gives me a look like I was some crazy who just wished to be pg. I told her I had 3 positive tests 3 days in a row, and she acted like I was lying. It was annoying. I called my awesome doctor (who doesn't do ob anymore, just gyn) and she was like DUH, you had a chemical. And she called the new office and complained to the chief there. LOL Anyway, if they give you that crap (and again, hopefully all is just fine!!!!!), just know that's what it is.my doctor was really good to me and said i definately miscarried,that would be awful to be told that its like because its so early that it doesnt count or something! some people have no tact!

[iluvmyman]

Hey ladies! Update on me....

Started spotting brown this morning. Called dr they said it was normal. An hour later I'm bleeding red!! I just know I'm having a chemical pregnancy miscarriage. :( But my cramps are not bad and the bleeding is now a dark reddish brown color. I'm so confused. I have my pregnancy confirmation appt tomorrow afternoon so I should know something then.

OMGosh Alexis, I sure hope everything is going to be OK. I had some bleeding too and ended up being nothing Thank God. The Dr. said it would feel like a heavy period if I miscarried around that time. I will be praying for you and please let us know what the Dr. said. :pray: