April 2WW

[XXforhubby]

So, so sorry Seabeewife [emoji20]. Be kind to yourself and have a cheat day, or two.


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[seabeewife]

I'm hoping the RRL and cream work this cycle. Feeling more hopeful about it. Thanks for the kind words ladies.

[fefecooks]

What's considered a cheat day for pink?

[XXforhubby]

What's considered a cheat day for pink?

A cheat day is just that, you eat whatever you want! I still stuck to the no snacking between meals. Some people have snacks. Just depends on what you want to do. I was ways afraid if I snacked during my cheat days it would be too hard to not snack the rest of the time.



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[tm29]

I am completely thrilled to say I'm genuinely in the 2ww. I had my trigger shot at the ready - but I got a +opk all on my own this morning. Woohoo! No clomid and no trigger!

Junie - you were right about as much BDing as poss for blue. DH is going to be a shadow of his former self by the end of this. Are any of you using preseed?

[sageviolet]

Fivebabies, congrats!!! SO happy for you! You inspire me to keep trying :-)

Junie - The red light doesn't have the same benefits if you're looking at a glowing screen. There's a free software called Flux https://justgetflux.com/ you can use to change the spectrum of glow on your devices. Also, have you heard of nighttime sunglasses or fog glasses? They're great for driving at night, but I've heard of people using them for an hour or two before bed, especially if using the computer, to help improve sleep and mood. You might try them a little on a grey day to turn on the sunshine!

hbubs - I got pregnant so easily last time, even though I was sick with Lyme at the time, yet here I am on cycle 10 of ttc. And this time I prepared for 6 months before trying! I don't understand.

tm - I tried Preseed for a couple of months, but no bfp and we ran out of applicators, so I haven't used it lately.

Af showed up for me on Sat. FX for those of you still in the 2ww!

[XXforhubby]

Sage- I'm so sorry AF showed [emoji20]! I'm sending you the rest of my blue dust, DH says he doesn't mind another boy, but why does he always refer to the baby as a girl?!

[emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[XXforhubby]

Tm29- so you didn't use Clomid or the trigger this cycle? I sure hope this brings you your much awaited BFP! I'll be stalking! You blue swayers have a special place in my heart- I simply adore my boys and everyone should have at least one, or two like a matching pair of cute shoes! My boys mean everything to me! Here is my always on the go, curious about everything, and snugly with mama blue baby dust!

[emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]

(I don't think I'll ever run out of blue baby dust, but I'm trying!)


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[tm29]

Tm29- so you didn't use Clomid or the trigger this cycle? I sure hope this brings you your much awaited BFP! I'll be stalking! You blue swayers have a special place in my heart- I simply adore my boys and everyone should have at least one, or two like a matching pair of cute shoes! My boys mean everything to me! Here is my always on the go, curious about everything, and snugly with mama blue baby dust!

[emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]

(I don't think I'll ever run out of blue baby dust, but I'm trying!)


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No! I took what felt like a MASSIVE gamble I would do it naturally and it seems like it paid off. My cycle got completely messed up by my mc last December and this is the very first time I have ovulated at all since then. Thanks xxforhubby - and I'm so happy to read that you're pregnant. I will happily take some of your blue dust - it sounds like the top grade stuff.

[Junie]

I'm so glad you Od TM29!! Now for a BFP with a blue bundle!

I had massive cramping after BDing yesterday and now unfortunately I am sick again and back on antibiotics. I'm also spotting so it looks like CD1 for me tonight or tomorrow.

[HealthyGirl]

I'm 99% sure the timing to catch the egg was great this cycle for us since I used 3 different ovulation tests to compare.
My CB monitor only gave me 2 High days and I finally got my first peak this morning.
I went based on my wondfo opk ( line was darker than control) and I got a smiley on the clearblue digital test.

So we bd on the last high day ( very close to first peak day).

I just have doubts now since don't know if DH has released on his own or not and how long he's abstained. I asked him casually yesterday and he said for a while.
I have had really low sex drive last 3 weeks and we haven't been intimate.

Does anyone know if he's abstained for a while does it lower conception by a lot? What does it exactly do to the sperm?
I just don't see how he's abstained for 2-3 weeks. Never thought men could go that long without releasing.


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[XXforhubby]

I he abstained for 2-3 weeks then his sperm count will be on the lower side. I highly doubt he went that long!

FX for you!


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[HealthyGirl]

I should just ask him again but my husband hates answering questions like that.
I wouldn't think any guy could go that long too. It's partly my fault for having such a Low sex drive. Between work, my son, swaying and trying to find a house to buy sex is the last thing on my mind.


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[HealthyGirl]

He just confessed to 1 month!
I didn't think any guy can go that long!!!
Omg I'm so upset.



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[sc1411]

Healthy Girl, I think maybe he doesn't want to admit that he did it, I don't think it is possible for a man to go that long. Try not to stress out about it:)

Tm 29, I used Preseed but only 1g of it and 15 min before. I'm not a big fan of this lube but it seems to help blue swayers, so I got over it,LOL!

[HealthyGirl]

sc1411 I'm hoping that's the case [emoji16]


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[tm29]

[QUOTE Tm 29, I used Preseed but only 1g of it and 15 min before. I'm not a big fan of this lube but it seems to help blue swayers, so I got over it,LOL![/QUOTE]

Yes it's not great is it? Kind of destroys all sensation? Or did you not find that? I'm using it because of swaying blue - like you said. Is it better if you use it 15 mins before. I'm trying to work out why!

Healthygirl If he has depleted his sperm reserves I know that makes it less likely you'll get pregnant, but surely it's fantastic for pink? So, now the deed is done, at least you can feel sure you've done an amazing pink sway. Better to be in this position than to discover he had been releasing every couple of days as per blue sways.

It's hard to get a DH to sway, I've found. You? Mine found it INCREDIBLY hard to go without soy sauce. As you can imagine, that didn't seem like a very big deal to me!

[HealthyGirl]

Well he isn't so much intentionally swaying. It's bc I guess he didn't need to release. I still don't get how he went that long.

I didn't know releasing every couple of days swayed blue.
I thought in my personalized for pink Atomic recommended him to release every 2-4 days.

I know as far as a pink sway I have a good sway but I kinda wanted to be pregnant by my 35th bday next month.


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[sc1411]

Agree Tm 29, I'm only using it for swaying purposes, sensations are basically lost with it:(

[tm29]

Definitely ignore me on the releasing every 2 days thing. It's obviously not the essential thing. What matters is BD pattern, I'm sure. Maybe someone who knows more than I do can weigh in. :)

[tm29]

Worrying about how many attempts we're getting in. We'll have done 0-2 0-1, 0 day and 0+1. I really wanted us to do X2 today but dh was too tired. You think that sounds Ok? It's VERY different from a pink sway pattern, right? I'm nervous!

[True Blue]

That's great tm29 well done :) you still have 3 attempts in the fertile window there - far from the girls 1 attempt.

[sc1411]

4 attempts in fertile window looks great!

[sc1411]

Whispering:

BFP, extremely extremely faint line on two different brand tests 9dpo. I'm scared:nails:
Please tell me early pregnancy test means nothing for a gender purposes...

[smarston3]

Sc-oh my! But, I demand pictures [emoji6]


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[mommymachine]

Congrats on a BFP!!!! Don't worry about gender and darkness of lines....tons of ladies here have gotten boys with super early BFPs.

[sc1411]

24742

You see it, right?

[mommymachine]

I sure do!!! COngrats!

[XXforhubby]

I SEE IT!!!! OMG sc1411!!!! That is awesome! How early you get a BFP depends on when you Oed. Most likely you Oed earlier than you thought or the egg found a great blood supply early, like mine did.

So, so happy for you!!!

Come join us in the December/Jan/Feb due date thread!


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[smarston3]

I see it!!!!! Congrats!!


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[sc1411]

Thank you ladies! Still processing it:)

[purple]

Worrying about how many attempts we're getting in. We'll have done 0-2 0-1, 0 day and 0+1. I really wanted us to do X2 today but dh was too tired. You think that sounds Ok? It's VERY different from a pink sway pattern, right? I'm nervous!

Sounds good to me. My boys were conceived with every 2 days and on O. Every day was too much pressure for DH.

We are going to do one attempt at OPK+ for our girl sway.

[purple]

Congrats sc1411!!


Agh.. I'm waiting to O, was expecting it in the next 4-5 days but now I am sick with a cold! I hope its not going to delay O by too much. Its the same cold DH had last week and I was trying to avoid catching it from him but it hit me exactly a week later. I would normally dose up on Vitamin C but I'm guessing that is a big no-no with my pink sway?

[mommymachine]

Congrats sc1411!!


Agh.. I'm waiting to O, was expecting it in the next 4-5 days but now I am sick with a cold! I hope its not going to delay O by too much. Its the same cold DH had last week and I was trying to avoid catching it from him but it hit me exactly a week later. I would normally dose up on Vitamin C but I'm guessing that is a big no-no with my pink sway?

Being sick around O seems to sway pink!!

[purple]

Being sick around O seems to sway pink!!

Yeah I have heard that so that is good :) I just hope if doesn't delay O completely and I get a wacky cycle like my first month trying. I did take Soy Iso this month so hopefully that sorts my body out. Oh well, I just have to wait it out and see.

[HealthyGirl]

Congrats sc1411 [emoji3]


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[fefecooks]

Heavy cramping a week before AF due. This is weird!! I never cramp this hard and certainly not this early.

[Sunbuny]

Congrats sc1411! How awesome!!


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[Sunbuny]

Heavy cramping a week before AF due. This is weird!! I never cramp this hard and certainly not this early.

Could possibly be implantation. I had that with my first pregnancy. Fx for you


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[essnce629]

WooHoo, I see two lines sc1411!!! Congrats!!! Great lines for 9dpo as well!

[Junie]

CONGRATS SC1411!!!! That is lovely!

TM29- Fantastic BDing pattern for a boy!!!

CD1 for me. Planning on getting really drunk in the coming days and praying for a cycle where I ovulate before CD40! I've pretty much given up on the diet at this point. I'm still so sick that my maternal condition must be absolute crap. I still have my ear infection and my boys actually reinfected me with their sickness and now my jaw and sinuses are also infected and I am on antibiotics again. I'm still only eating 1-2 meals a day but I'm no longer veggie and I don't count totals of anything. At this point it has been 4 months since the miscarriage and I'm just over it all. It has never taken me this long to get pregnant and I'm sick of TTC. I'm trying to just let go and enjoy life and that isn't possible if I get too wrapped up in the sway. I admire all of you who can do a strict diet for months on end but I definitely can't be a good happy wife and mother, TTC for months and months, and do a strict diet. It just isn't in me. Thankfully I am totally OK with another boy- if I can just get pregnant again!

[True Blue]

sc1411 yay :) congratulations!!
I see two lines there :)

[tm29]

Junie I so completely understand how you're feeling. I have been in tears so so many times. It is extra extra awful swaying after a loss when your cycle is crazy too - just how it was for me. I really get it. Hugs, hugs. Definitely have a few drinks - that sounds like a great idea and you're even allowed to do it. Maybe your hormones could do with a tiny boost from some meat and a few more cals - hopefully the illness - god it sounds TERRIBLE - will take care of maternal condition for you. I'm so sorry it has been this hard for you. Brings a tear to my eye.

[Hbuhs]

Hugs to you Junie!!

[Sunbuny]

Sorry to hear it's been such a rough time for you Junie. You certainly deserve a few drinks and cheats! Hugs sweetie xxx


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[eleena2014]

Sorry junie.treat yourself x

[Junie]

Thanks ladies! I'm giving myself one day to wallow, and then I am moving on. Honestly a January baby would be great and being negative won't help me either. There isn't any reason why we won't all get nice BFPS this cycle! I'm just going to try and focus on other things- and like you say TM29- at least I am allowed to drink on the girl diet LOL :D :D

[smarston3]

So sorry junie!!


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[sageviolet]

Congrats, sc1411! That's not a squinter, I see it!

tm29, sounds like great timing! FX this is it!

HealthyGirl, I think I read in the articles that a long hold like that sways pink, but people usually don't opt for that route since it is hard for most to go so long.

Junie - *HUGS* Please go off the diet for a bit for your sanity and health. Take a cheat day, a cheat week, whatever you need. As far as getting pregnant, I am so with you. I am way beyond how long it took us before. I'm in much better health now, so I don't understand why it's taking so long. I just have to trust God's timing. This little soul will show up when it's ready to come. Have you tried acupuncture? Or getting a massage? Please do something nice for yourself! Hope you get well soon <3

[Junie]

Sage- Thanks so much for your kind words. I can only imagine how you feel as I know you have been patient far longer then I! I'm going to try soy isoflavones this cycle, just to see if that helps push O forward, I figure at this point it can't make my cycles worse :) I also don't understand how you have not gotten pregnant yet- you are so healthy and your timing is great! Maybe your little boy just wanted to come in 2016 :D I hope you get a nice BFP in a few weeks!!

[XXforhubby]

Junie- my goodness do you ever need a break! I think it is wise to add in small amounts of meat to give yourself some extra nutrients- you need them at this point! I think your maternal condition may be too low! I think you'll be fine!

Sage- I agree with Junie, your little man will come to you soon!

I'm rooting for all of you ladies and Xing everything!


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[seabeewife]

Congratulations sc1411!!

[HealthyGirl]

Sorry to hear you are feeling this way Junie. .Take care of yourself.


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[tm29]

Junie you have done so so well to keep going after your mc and while you've been ill and with two kids to look after! Maybe you could have some more cals without upping your nutrients too much. You have come SO far!

I have set myself up for a massive disappointment if I don't get pg this cycle. It's my first o since the mc last December so I know I'd be very lucky to catch it. But I am a wild wild optimist despite all the evidence! Poor DH is exhausted - and it isn't as wonderful as it sounds having as much sex as you can in a four day period! Well, here we go. One last attempt tomorrow if possible - but here I am in the dreaded 2ww. I wish I could just wake up 14dpo.

[HealthyGirl]

I need some advice.

We bd Sunday night ( pos opk, clear blue gave me smiley and cb motor gave me a peak fertility 12 hours later).
I'm doubting whether my attempt worked since my husband claims he abstained for a WHOLE MONTH.

My dilemma is whether to bd tonight. Clear blue monitor gave me another peak day today ( last peak day). Opk turned pos after 8 min ( not like it turned pos super fast last 2 days) and clear blue digital DOESNT give me smiley face.

I'm pretty sure I ovulated very recently. Would you ladies attempt again tonight ( after bd Sunday night)????

I feel my first attempt isn't successful with the long abstain.

Please advise since I need to give a heads up to my husband.

Thanks


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[sc1411]

I'm a blue swayer, but I think if you have not ovulated or just recently ovulated you will have two attempts in the window. Hopefully, someone else can help, but the egg might stick around 12-24 hours after O, you will never know. GL!

[tm29]

I'm also a blue swayer. From what I understand, there are quite a few pink swayers who add attempts after not getting pg for a few cycles, aren't there? Your husband will definitely have affected his sperm count abstaining that long - right? Could you do a really shallow, no fun for you, jump right up and run around kind of BD? That would be my way of trying to have it both ways. That way you'd give yourself just a few more swimmers, but not too many...

But there may be expert pink swayers who strongly disagree.

[smarston3]

Healthy-I would wait until tomorrow. Then, that's 3 days instead of 2


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[XXforhubby]

I would wait until tomorrow. If you must, you can BD tonight. Just know that it lowers your chance of pink by another 10% down from 70% to 60%. When swaying pink, we NEED all the help we can get!!

Remember, people get pregnant all the time from one attempt with a long abstain. It is your choice to make.

If you did already ovulate, it could be a mute point anyway and likely to not make any difference. On the off chance you haven't though, you could in fact be swaying blue with a new batch of super, duper swimmers.

GL!



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[seabeewife]

Healthy girl, both my boys were conceived with lots and lots of BD. But according to what I've read from atomic, timing and how much BD you do is the least important when swaying. I'd say go for it, it increases your chances to get pregnant considering you have 12 to 24 hours to catch the egg after you ovulate.

[HealthyGirl]

Thanks xxforhubby.
I totally get what you are saying.
My only worry is the super freaking one month abstain he did.

I will definitely consider bd tomorrow or not even bd at all.

Thx


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[HealthyGirl]

Seebeewife from what I know timing isn't important but how many times you bd in the fertile window is actually important.


I feel that ONE month old sperm isn't any good for my first attempt so I'm gonna go for it tonight ( It might be too late)At least I will feel better about my bfn once I get it.


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[HealthyGirl]

Ok so I made a mistake with the whole ONE month thing.
He abstained since we bd last month which would put it at 21 days ( 3 weeks).


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[fivebabies]

Healthy girl- that'll be great for swaying pink! I respectfully disagree about timing and frequency. My girls were both conceived when we dtd often and had a 1 day cutoff. All of my boys were from BDing every 3 days and always on O day. I think you did great! FX for you!!!

[Hbuhs]

I went into the doctor as I've been struggling with UTis.. I held off hoping to avoid abx. But, ureka.. Keflex it is.
I also got them to dip my urine for pregnancy (may as well right?!;)) I'm 9dpo with a BFN :( now I'm discouraged!! I've just got that feeling that I'm not pregnant. Ugh.. This swaying business is exhausting. I'm feeling so much pressure since we are only going to ttc in May and June, then take a long break (due to me being a maid of honour and with my husbands job). I want a baby (girl) so badly. Thanks for listening to my vent. :(

[purple]

HealthyGirl - 3 weeks shouldn't be too bad, better than a whole month abstain!

Hbuhs - 9 dto is still really early and also how sensitive are the tests that Drs have?

[Hbuhs]

Purple- not sure, I didn't ask. But I'm assuming probably middle of the pack for sensitivity.

[fefecooks]

I'm out. She's here. Still confused as to why my body changed so much this cycle. Why did I cramp so much and so heavily and so early this cycle? It is so unlike my body. Should I get checked out?

[fefecooks]

Now she's gone. I'm so confused right now. Temp also dropped below coverline which made me sure I was out. Can anyone explain?

[XXforhubby]

Maybe implantation bleeding? I would wait and see what the next 2-3 days bring and maybe test then.

FX and GL!!


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[fefecooks]

Ok. I usually have massacre style bleeding (extremely heavy and lots of clots...sorry. tmi) my first day so this is definitely something very different.

[Junie]

fefecooks- Keep temping, I think at this point it could still go either way. It could be implantation spotting, or if your temps stay low it is probably (unfortunately) the start of AF.

Hbuhs- I think 9DPO is still too early even for tests at the Drs. office- unless they did a blood test.

Healthygirl- How long have you been TTC for a girl now? I think if it is only 1-2 cycles that I would not attempt only 2 days apart. You could attempt today if you still get a + OPK.

I took my first dosage of soy isoflavones today- I'm interested to see if they end up shortening my cycle at all.

[fefecooks]

Ok. Will do. Still hopeful as my daughter-in-law had a period for a day or two and she was sure she wasn't pregnant. Now she's like 11 weeks. :)

[seabeewife]

Fefe the horrid cramping happened to me this cycle as well, I was sure it was a good sign because it is not usual for it to happen to me. AF showed after 8 days of spotting. Hopefully it's not the same for you! Fx.

[fefecooks]

Wow seabeewife! I really want this constant cramping to go away if anything. It's really uncomfortable, annoying and really unusual. Almost like I should be checked out if I'm not pregnant. I am older at 38 to be 39 in October. I was really hoping to finally bite into that burger I've been craving for a BFP reward so we'll see!

[seabeewife]

Yeah mine was really bad too. I usually don't get bad cramps during my period either, and on day two of my period I was in such bad pain I was stuck in the fetal position most the day :/ I swear it's stress for me. I've got this last month to conceive if I want my DH home for the birth. Just found out he's deploying again when he wasn't supposed to.

[tm29]

Fefe - I had what looked like AF - 3 days! - and was pg before. Definitely still a chance.

Seabee - that is a truly terrible amount of pressure for you with deployment. Wow. That really made me sit up and think! FX like crazy for you this month.

[fefecooks]

Yes, Seabee, please don't stress yourself. Can you make it to the spa for a spa day? This always helps me because I can be a ball of stress at times too.

[seabeewife]

I wish I could do a spa day. Unfortunately we're a family of one car and I'm not near family to watch DS 2 so I can relax. I usually go on a long walk to relieve stress. I really could use a message though lol.

[fefecooks]

Then we'll have to make this a job for DH after DS bedtime. Tell him to get those hands a-ready!! ;) How about a nice bath with lavender, lots of candles and yes, spa music! Should help!! :)

[Junie]

I agree with Fefe- get DH to give you a nice massage seabee! :)

I'm back on cortisone again- oh no! I'm sure it made my cycle crazy last time. Thankfully only 20mg once a day for 10 days. So I'm hoping since it is the start of my cycle it won't affect O.

[fefecooks]

Ok. I'm definitely out. Heavy as ever and temp even lower today. So happy that cramping has finally subsided. One more cycle then off to the fertility clinic.

[eleena2014]

so sorry fefecooks.how long have u been ttc?
i am pretty sure i ovulated last night.so im in the 2ww:nails:

[fefecooks]

That was our first try but I'm 38 so no time to waste. And now that my cycle seems to be changing (more intense cramping), I really want to get in there sooner than later. Best wishes eleena!

[Junie]

Fefecooks- I think intense cramping can be a good thing. A sign of a strong O if it happens during your cycle, and that your body is doing what it should during AF.

Eleena2014- Good luck sweetie!! How do you feel about your timing?

[eleena2014]

Good but I don't know if it's enough as we had 2 attempts before which led to bfn's. We are suppouse to be having another attmept tonight but I've got a headache and feel sick so if this doesn't go away I won't be doing anything

[eleena2014]

Sorry if tmi but just been for a bowel movement and seen v stretchy mucus. Does this mean I haven't ovulated yet?

[Junie]

Well if you ovulated last night you don't really need to bother with tonight- I wouldn't ,especially if I had a headache and felt sick. I hope 3 is the lucky number for you and you get your BFP this cycle Eleena!!

----Just saw your most recent post
Yes stretchy mucus means you probably haven't O'd! When did you BD- yesterday? Then I would definitely wait until at least tomorrow to BD again.

[fefecooks]

Eleena. I would say you're o is very imminent. Are you swaying girl or boy?

[eleena2014]

We bd Monday night/early hours Tuesday morning 1.00am

[eleena2014]

Swaying girl

[eleena2014]

If we bd around. Same time tonight will.maybe be a bit earlier that will make it 3 days apart. I got my first positive opk Tuesday morning so thought I would have ovulated by now

[fefecooks]

Oh, ok. I used to get tons of EW before this girl diet and now it's all dried up over the past 3 months. Is atomic telling you multiple attempts? She told me only 1 at pos opk before ovulation.

[eleena2014]

I don't have a paid plan. I was wanting to stick to one attmept but wasn't sure if my opk was Def positive so we ended up bd the night before +opk

[fefecooks]

Are you temping as well? This always gives me my confirmation.

[eleena2014]

No not temping

[eleena2014]

Oh I really thought I had ovulated already. Is it really not possible to have ovulated but still get ewcm?

[fefecooks]

Is it possible that it's semen or did you get it all out before? I hear that EW and semen are often confused.

[eleena2014]

From bd Monday night I don't think it would be. I didn't do j & d so maybe?

[eleena2014]

Think it Looks too stretchy to be semen

[fefecooks]

If it's not, I would highly encourage you to invest in one if you need another cycle. It takes the stress factor of it out of the picture. I'm already a huge stressball to begin with so I'm glad I don't have the other factor of confirming o.

[eleena2014]

I may do if needs be

[fefecooks]

I'm gonna try to schedule a spa day in this next cycle leading up to o day. It's not easy for me to relax so I'm hoping this will help us with ttc.

[Junie]

I would BD tomorrow morning Eleena. If you can't in the morning then late tonight.

[XXforhubby]

Eleena- I would BD tonight if it will be 3 days since your last attempt. We BD every 3 days this cycle, then we got out BFP. You want your attempt to be ahead of O. Attempts on O day are often unsuccessful if not timed before O occurs.

FX and GL!!


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[smarston3]

Oh girls!! Crossing my fingers you will be joining me in the due date club

9DPO!!24800


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[fefecooks]

Congrats smarston3!!

[eleena2014]

Yey. Congrats smartston. Can I ask when did u bd?

[smarston3]

Yey. Congrats smartston. Can I ask when did u bd?

Of course!! 4 days before O and morning of O day..and I was getting bloodwork done so I know that's accurate


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[eleena2014]

Did u have any cm on the day of ovulation?

[fefecooks]

Can I ask your age smarston3?

[smarston3]

Did u have any cm on the day of ovulation?

No. I had it 3 days and 2 days before


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[smarston3]

Can I ask your age smarston3?

We both just turned 33 in between our attempts!! Chinese gender says 33 is a boy and 32 is a girl..haha


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[eleena2014]

And what cycle day did u ovulate?

[sc1411]

Congratulations Smartson! Your line is very dark, awesome, mine looks even lighter 12dpo on First Response:)

[smarston3]

And what cycle day did u ovulate?

Day 14..had +OPK on night of CD 12 and blaring positive on CD 13. Negative on O day


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[smarston3]

And I took clomid last cycle not this cycle. My estrogen level never dropped enough to start taking it


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[True Blue]

Congratulations smartson :)

[eleena2014]

I'm using 10mlu dip strips. This morning it was dark but not positive and the afternoon it was Def fading out

[eleena2014]

Got my first positve on Tuesday morning. Yesterday it seemed to be even darker like yours.

[eleena2014]

I've read you can still get ewcm after ovulation

[smarston3]

Eleena-BFP?!


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[eleena2014]

No that can't be possible can it. As I'm only on cd 15. As I got my positive opk on Tuesday I wouldn't have even implanted yet

[smarston3]

Oh ok. Sorry, misunderstood you. Well, let's hope theirs a BFP from these +OPKS!!


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[sc1411]

Eleena, it might be pregnancy discharge, google it:) At least it was an indicator for me, I always had it 2 dpo and kind of knew I was done, lol.

[smarston3]

Eleena, it might be pregnancy discharge, google it:) At least it was an indicator for me, I always had it 2 dpo and kind of knew I was done, lol.

Same here!


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[Junie]

Congrats Smarston3!!! That is a fantastic dark line for only 9DPO!!

[Magical22]

Hi ladies can I join please, I'm not exactly in the tww yet, will be dtd tonight when DH gets home from working away, I'm hoping I get a positive opk today so it lines up with dh getting home!


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[Magical22]

Smarston3 wow that's a great BFP congrats!


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[seabeewife]

Smarston3!! Congrats!! I hope and pray I join you guys in a few weeks!!

[Junie]

Magical22- Of course you can join! I won't be in the 2WW for probably weeks, but I love to chat with everyone while waiting to O and see all the BFPs :) I hope you get a +OPK today!

[HealthyGirl]

So happy for you Smartson! I hope I can join you [emoji3]


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[XXforhubby]

Yay, Smarston! Congrats [emoji175][emoji175]!


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[HealthyGirl]

Joining everyone here.
I ended bd 2 days after first attempt ( O-2 and O)

I know that wasn't advised but strongly felt I had no chance with my first attempt with such a LONG abstain.



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[eleena2014]

I've just Googled something called ovulation sickness. Symptoms are nausea,cramps, tiredness and headaches. All can occur after ovulation. It most probably is that I have. I'm sure I can remwmber having the same last month too. I really don't think I will be bd tonight at all

[eleena2014]

All I wanna do is go to sleep

[smarston3]

Thanks ladies!!! FX you can all join me!!!! I know I ovulate two so I'm hoping that's why the line is so dark, but, I always seem to have high HCG levels anyway


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[smarston3]

Little concerned that I have cramps near my left ovary and I ovulated from my left...hope I didn't get too excited too fast


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[XXforhubby]

Little concerned that I have cramps near my left ovary and I ovulated from my left...hope I didn't get too excited too fast


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I had that too and ovulated from my left ovary. Babe implanted in the left side. I bet that is the same for you too!


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[Magical22]

Magical22- Of course you can join! I won't be in the 2WW for probably weeks, but I love to chat with everyone while waiting to O and see all the BFPs :) I hope you get a +OPK today!

Thank you, done an opk and it's still negative on cd 12, usually I can feel cramps and twinges but I haven't felt anything yet, I hope I do O soon.


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[eleena2014]

We didn't bd last night. Felt too sick. Oh well. We can have an attmept tonight but don't think it will be any good. Here's a summary. We bd approx 10 hours before my first +opk . Continued to get positive opk until yesterday morning (I think) the test line was lighter than the day before but same as the control line. Had ewcm wed and yesterday.think I had something I looked up called ovulation sickness. Had pains since Tuesday and today the pains have gone. Do you think mondays bd before the positive opk would have worked. ? I think at the latest it would have been 4 days before ovulation. We used sylk but I didn't do j & d . I laid there all night

[Sunbuny]

It's hard to say Eleena... Some people conceive 5-6 days before ovulation ( or so I've read ) .I know in my case 4 days before ovulation ( using sylk and rephresh ) didn't work for me but I might of made it too hard for anything to get through. Good luck! My fingers are crossed for you!


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[Junie]

Eleena- I think it could go either way. I think for most of us 4 days before O while also swaying girl is just too much and it doesn't work out. It is frustrating because we get O signs and don't want to miss it but then it can take days until O and the timing can end up being off. I think if it does work out for you this cycle (which I hope hope hope) that you at least have great girl timing/number of attempts.

[eleena2014]

So we may as well try tonight too yeah? In case ovulation does come late. Like I said 4 days before ovulation is the latest it could be. But most likely I think it's 3

[Sunbuny]

I think 3 you have a pretty good shot. But if it's been 4 days since you BD you have nothing to lose


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[Junie]

I think if you feel up to it you have nothing to lose by BDing tonight.

[smarston3]

So we may as well try tonight too yeah? In case ovulation does come late. Like I said 4 days before ovulation is the latest it could be. But most likely I think it's 3

Agree with the other ladies. I would absolutely try tonight.


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[HealthyGirl]

Agree. Try again Eleena.


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[Magical22]

What day is everyone Oing on? I still haven't Oed will get to Sunday before I stress about it though lol


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[Magical22]

I'd go again Eleena [emoji1]


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[Junie]

I'm not sure when I'll O my cycles are irregular, especially after the miscarriage. I'm taking soy isoflavones this cycle though so I've got everything crossed that they help my O sooner. I've read some great success stories online about people taking soy, so we'll see!

[seabeewife]

I'm due to O on the 23rd. Sometimes it happens a day before or after.

[eleena2014]

Bd last night again . Not sure it would have been worth it but oh well. I'm confused now too. I know I would have ovulated by now and after bd last night I saw the same mucus that I thought was ewcm but it can't be that so maybe I'm confusing the two. So all the time I thought I saw loads of ewcm it could have been semen? But it's really really stretchy.

[Magical22]

Still haven't OEd cd14 [emoji17]


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[purple]

I'm CD17 and have been spotting / light bleeding since CD14 :( I don't know what is going on. I read you can get some mid-cycle spotting with Soy but this seems a bit too much!

[Junie]

Are you also doing Soy, purple? How much did you take and on what days?

[purple]

I took 120mg on days 3 - 7. I have taken it before and conceived DS2 but it was a different brand which isn't available anymore.

Last month I had some weird spotting too but it started CD24 so I counted it as AF but the cycle before was annovutory.

[Junie]

I think spotting around ovulation can be fine, are you temping so that you can confirm O? I took 175 from CD 3- CD7 and I'm really hoping it has a positive effect for me! So far it has just given me migraines (which I often get during AF anyway).

[essnce629]

I've had spotting a few times around ovulation as well, especially when I was still breastfeeding but DS1 was almost weaned. I think it's just normal sometimes. I've even read that it's a sign of super fertility LOL!!!

[purple]

It's a bit more that spotting, more like a light AF. It also seems like I have EWCM too.

I'm using OPKs and so far they are negative. My temps are in the low range but I only started temping a few days ago as I had a cold and temp orally.

[sageviolet]

Congrats, smarston!!! Hope to join you soon!

seabeewife, I'm due to o on the 24th. We're cycle buddies!

Anyone have tender breasts before o? This is very unusual for me to have it now with o expected on Friday. It's normal to have it the whole 2ww, but why so far before o? I am trying abdominal fertility massage leading up to o this cycle, so I'm wondering if that's affecting my hormones. Also if I didn't mention it already, my temps stabilized when I added the wheatgrass back in this cycle.

[seabeewife]

I just had a HUGE temp dip this morning... no way I'm ovulating 3 days early!! Does RRL make you ovulate earlier usually?

[Junie]

Sage- 3 days till O! I'm glad your temps stabilized again. I think in general feeling lots of stuff throughout the cycle means your hormones are strong- hopefully that means a nice strong O for you!

Seabee- I bet it could affect your cycles a bit although I never had that from RRL.

I'm hoping for some nice CM this cycle. I haven't had any since the miscarriage and it would be a good sign for me that my body is going back to normal. I've read that soy can help so that would be great.

[seabeewife]

Looks like I did O yesterday according to my temps. All I changed was the RRL and folic acid. I haven't gotten my usual egg white to let me know a couple days ahead though. We ended up doing a lot more BD'ing than I planned during my fertile period which makes me nervous. But DH is leaving in a few days again for training, so I couldn't leave him high and dry.

[tm29]

Good luck see bee! Now the dreaded wait...
I am doing everything I can not to test in the next few days. 7dpo today and symptom spotting like crazy. I'm really going to try and sit it out until 12dpo. If it's bfn this month I think I'll have to wait another month to tt again because I have let myself eat less - nothing dramatic obviously just not so I'm stuffed all the time - and I wouldn't want to risk it. Oh I hope I hope I hope! 4 months on the HE is enough! But there are plenty of people who wait a lot longer than that I know. Going crazy!

[seabeewife]

Once I hit 7dpo I go nuts wanting to test. I'm the worst with symptom spotting! I hope you get your BFP this month! Ttc is so nerve wreaking!

[Junie]

Seabee- there are a lot of girl moms who did ED BDing so I think it doesn't automatically mean boy. I think if you were doing things like diet that that still plays a big role!

tm29- I have 2 boys and didn't spend all my time going around feeling stuffed LOL. I just grazed a lot and never felt hungry. I hope you get a BFP this cycle so it doesn't matter but if you don't I wouldn't wait :)!

[seabeewife]

I agree Junie, the diet and pH I feel is much more important for getting a girl. I miss snacking so much! That's my biggest change.

[XXforhubby]

I'm Xing everything and praying that you ladies get your much deserved BFPs!

Tm29- do not feel that you have to wait another month! You can keep right on TTCing! I too just grazed throughout the day and was never stuffed all the time! I was actively building muscle so I needed more calories, but I never exceeded 1800-2000 calories ever! On days I didn't exercise I ate more like 1500-1600 calories. I was buff but slender!

PLEASE those of you swaying blue, take my always on the go, and snugly with mama blue baby dust!

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[tm29]

Thanks seebee, XX and junie - I really appreciate it. It's so helpful to hear what you all did to get your gorgeous boys. I'm really interested to hear 1800-2000 cals. Would you believe I have been eating around 3000 for 4 months! Since we Ttc I've taken it down to 2,500 and I have not eaten red meat EVERY day and I am a lot more comfortable. And I've enjoyed doing a whole hour of exercise not just 45 mins of mainly weights. I'm still snacking twice a day - but this is a really light sway in comparison with what I did in advance of our last bd marathon lol. XX I will take that whole truck of blue dust. I really want you all to have your little girls!!!! Fx like crazy. When should I test 12dpo?!

[XXforhubby]

Live dangerously Tm29 and test at 10DPO! If you get a BFN, then I would test at 12DPO.

I got a strong positive at 10DPO, and I had NO symptoms either.

FX and [emoji120]🏻for you! You blue swayers have a special place in my heart. I hope and [emoji120]🏻you get your blue bundle, because I know how much I love and adore mine! I want that for you too!

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[essnce629]

tm29-- I don't remember if I told you before but I have two boys and this is what I did:

2 attempts in fertile window
Green or white tea with honey every day
Never drank soda ever
Never drank coffee ever
Never drank alcohol ever
Full fat dairy
Vitamin D, probiotics, B complex, multivitamin, fish oil daily
Ate one serving of meat a day usually
Drank only water besides tea

Good luck!

[HealthyGirl]

I ended up with 2 attempts.
o-2 and ovulation day itself.

7 DPO currently. Will test at 9 DPO.
I hope I didn't ruin my pink sway too much by doing 2 attempts but one wasn't working for us.


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[tm29]

Healthygirl, I did 6 attempts for my blue sway, lol. If I had done 2 attempts I would be pretty confident it was pink-friendly.

essnce629 - thank you so much! I have 1 coffee every morning and a small glass of red wine now and then and no green tea, so I'm pretty different from you there. But I have gained maternal condition like crazy. Here's hoping.

XX - live dangerously, lol. Maybe I will. I will certainly be broadcasting it here. :)

[Hbuhs]

AF is here for me. Good luck to those of you who are still in your April 2ww.
I guess I will be moving along to the May 2ww :(

[smarston3]

AF is here for me. Good luck to those of you who are still in your April 2ww.
I guess I will be moving along to the May 2ww :(

So sorry [emoji20]


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[tm29]

So sorry Hbuhs. It's a heartbreaking process.Hugs to you.

[HealthyGirl]

Sorry hbuhs. I know how it must feel.
Did you end up doing every 4 days and additional attempt at pos opk?


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[HealthyGirl]

Tm29 I hope you get your 6 attempts give you your BFP.


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[seabeewife]

So sorry hbuhs :(

[seabeewife]

I guess I didn't ovulate yet? Temp dropped way down again. Might be due to all the drinking I've been doing.

[Junie]

I'm so so sorry Hbuhs!

[tm29]

I'm driving myself CRAZY. I'm 39 so this all feels really last minute and I know women have babies later, but we all know it gets harder too. Ugh! Thanks Healthygirl I need all the luck I can get and every one of those 6 attempts!

I have ABSOLUTELY NO SYMPTOMS at 8DPO. XX you had no symptoms at all, right? Shouldn't I be noticing something? It's so hard to concentrate on anything I really have to stop thinking about all this. But how?!

[HealthyGirl]

Tm29, I will be 35 in a few days and feel the clock is ticking for me.
I'm 8 DPO as well and don't feel anything except for occasional very mild pms cramping.

Hope we both get our BFP this cycle. How long have you been TTC?
When will you test?
I will test tomorrow.


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[XXforhubby]

Yep, I had zero symptoms! All I had was a semi decent chart! I couldn't even get a positive opk either, which was strange because I always did! My chart didn't start to look promising until 9DPO when I had a second temp rise. I thought, huh that's strange. If my acupuncturist didn't give me a clue, I would have been clueless!!

FX and [emoji120]🏻 for you all!!


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[tm29]

Thanks XX - Oh I love your story!!

Healthygirl - 35 sounds YOUNG to me now, but I'm not trying to make out you're crazy to worry. I was worrying at 35 too - but I got pregnant first month trying. I got pg first month again last year, but I had an mc and since then my cycle vanished and it only returned for this last attempt. So I will feel VERY lucky if I catch the first ovulation.

All in all, I have been swaying 3 months before the pg last year and 4 months since the mc. I am fat and anxious! I don't think I dare to test tomorrow, I'm so scared of seeing a stark BFN. Oh you are braver than I am. Incredible we o'd on the same day. I am going to cross everything for you!

[tm29]

XX - and other moms of boys, could you tell me what you mean by a snack? Missing out on snacks is the thing which sounds hardest for you all about the pink sway. What kind of snacks do you normally eat? My sway snacks are so full of calories, I can't imagine you ate that much - particularly if you, like you said XX, ate around 1500-1800 on a non-gym day.

I'd be so grateful to know!

[purple]

Not snacking has been a big change for me. I liked to snack on cookies, cake and chocolate mostly. Sometimes I would be healthy and have fruit or yogurt. I was probably snacking all the time when TTC DS2 as I was home with DS1 and I eat more when I'm at home especially as I also like to bake!

[Sunbuny]

I used to love snacking on whole grain crackers (vitaweets ) with crunchy peanut butter. I would have it twice a day ( morning tea and afternoon). Sometimes chocolate too.


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[Junie]

Oh I miss snacking so much. I used to be great at eating just a handful of popcorn or a few nuts or a cookie, a peanut butter honey sandwich, a few crackers with cream cheese, a few slices of cheese, a joghurt, maybe a few pieces of salami or ham with cheese or toast, etc.

I think because I normally ate quite small amounts while snacking that the calories didn't go up too much.

[XXforhubby]

My favorite snacks were: Kashi GoLean dark chocolate cherry granola bars, a Luna protein bar, a handful of walnuts and 2TBSP of raisins, a banana, or an apple. Sometimes I would have air popped popcorn.


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[smarston3]

Oh yeah, about 3pm everyday I would have a snack..plus, I would snack while I was making dinner


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[tm29]

Thank you ladies - this is all so so helpful. I think it's possible I have pretty much transformed myself into one of you now - or the way you were before the pink swaying anyhow. What I mean is, I could NEVER go back to my old pink tendencies. I used to live with low blood pressure all day long, whereas I now consider it an emergency! And the idea of all the cardio I used to do? No, no. Thank you, this is really great.

Instead of snacking I used to eat a lot of chewing gum all at once because the sweetness tricks your brain into thinking it's getting sugar. This is plainly not a healthy thing to do but probably good for a pink sway!

Thank you so, so much for the tips. I can totally see how that didn't make you overweight, particularly if you have a good metabolism from muscle etc.

So....I had some VERY VERY light spotting this morning and I'm pretty terrified that it's NOT implantation bleeding. Too scared to test and anyway if it is IB then it wouldn't show up for about three days, right? Ugh I do not want to be 39 I want to be 29 with years of babymaking ahead of me. Why did I have to meet DH so late?!!

[tm29]

when I said 'it wouldn't show up for about three days, right?" I meant a BFP - because the hcg would need to build up from the day of IB. Or am I wrong?

[HealthyGirl]

I hope it's implantation bleeding for you.
Do you have any other symptoms?

I chickened out and didn't test at 9 DPO. Probably tomorrow.

I have some mild cramping and it's making me a bit worried.


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[tm29]

Hi Healthygirl - I definitely have frequent urination. But the trouble is, all these super early symptoms can just be progesterone from your cycle, can't they?

So you didn't test in the end? Maybe it was for the best. 9dpo really is very early. I am going to try my hardest to wait. I have cramping too - but I am obsessing about the spotting this morning so I could easily be imagining it. The mind does strange things in the 2ww! FX your cramping is implantation.

[eleena2014]

I said it could be implantation. 9dpo is the most common day.
I am 7dpo. Hoping to see at least a v faint line by 10 dpo. I do have a feeling we didn't catch the egg this month. Def the first month i have felt negative about things

[HealthyGirl]

Tm29 no I didnt test.

Good luck to all of us!
Let's all have hope for a BFP!


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[essnce629]

Instead of snacking I used to eat a lot of chewing gum all at once because the sweetness tricks your brain into thinking it's getting sugar. This is plainly not a healthy thing to do but probably good for a pink sway!


Ha, that's how I am now! Just eating sugar free gum between meals LOL! Something I NEVER did because I would never let aspartame cross my lips!

[tm29]

Really sad to say I think I'm out at 9dpo. This is not implantation bleeding, I'm pretty sure. I have cramps and even though it's lighter than a normal AF it's more than the tiny trace IB usually is from what I understand. I did have a very heavy IB when I was pg last time, but I have a strong feeling this is not the same - just more messed up cycle from my mc last Dec. It has taken so so long to recover!

Wow I'm feeling so sad. I'm scared I might not get pg at all. I'll still test in a few days but it seems pretty pointless. This is a weird, very early AF.

[fefecooks]

I was early this month too, tm29. Hang in there! It WILL happen for the both of us!!

[djmommy]

Im sorry tm29. I haven't joined in this cycle but try to keep up when I can. I am 39 as well and have been on a long journey. My AF came early as well, so annoying. Have you been to the dr. yet? Are you pretty sure you ovulated. I remember seeing your chart before and you were having a long cycle. Could be breakthrough bleeding. Hoping you can get things figured out soon! HUGS!

[XXforhubby]

I'm so sorry ladies! My heart aches for you [emoji22]!

Know I am hoping and praying for all of you!


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[seabeewife]

Oh no :( tm29 I hope you're just one of those women who have heavy implantation bleeding. My fingers are still crossed for you ♡

[HealthyGirl]

I'm still crossing my fingers for you tm29.


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[tm29]

You're all so so kind! I'm really touched. I have to say I'm pretty devastated. I know I'll pull myself together, I always do, but it's rough right now. I have cramps. I wish I could kid myself but I can't.
Djmommy, xx, seebee, fee fee, healthygirl - I really am grateful to you

[tm29]

Yep - this morning I am definitely out. I'm so worried! It's not like swaying pink where you're effectively making it really hard to get pregnant. I'm supposedly making it really easy to get pregnant. Going to see the doctor...

[eleena2014]

So sorry tm x

[tm29]

Im sorry tm29. I haven't joined in this cycle but try to keep up when I can. I am 39 as well and have been on a long journey. My AF came early as well, so annoying. Have you been to the dr. yet? Are you pretty sure you ovulated. I remember seeing your chart before and you were having a long cycle. Could be breakthrough bleeding. Hoping you can get things figured out soon! HUGS!
Thanks djmommy. Are you swaying pink or blue? Nice to have a fellow 39-er around here. I'm sorry to hear you've been on a long journey. What you and I need is short journeys.

I definitely had a +opk - but I guess it's possible I didn't ovulate. I've been trying to avoid clomid because people use it for pink sways, but I'll definitely be taking anything I'm given from here on in. I so, so wanted a little boy, but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. Extra hard that a friend just emailed to say - great news! Yes, you guessed it. A little boy. And yes I am happy for her but I am also in a very sorry for myself state of why-oh-why-can't-that-be-me.

I haven't been charting, but you may be remembering my story. I had no cycles after bfing my daughter. Then I got pg with clomid. Then lost the baby at 12 wks. Then had 3 d and c's to resolve the issue. Then 4 months no cycle. Now this. All while steadily gaining weight on the HE. So, so fun. Real high point in my life.

Ok. complaining over. djmommy - I hope you get your bfp this month and get out of this crazy game. It's too stressful! FX for you.

[Junie]

TM29- You are allowed to complain! Your journey has been ridiculously hard and you deserve lots of respect for not giving up!!! I am SO SO sorry that AF came- we have all been there and know how sad, frustrating, and miserable this whole process can make us. TTC is bad enough on its own but then all the trouble that goes along with the diets and timing and everything else is enough to make anyone go crazy. Plus you're forced to think about TTC ALL THE TIME which makes every BFN and AF a hundred times worse.

I just want to say hang in there, you will get your BFP and hopefully your baby boy. I know at least 7 women who have had their first or second in their 40s with and without medical help. You are not out of the TTC game yet- and you can definitely still get a boy with clomid.

Big hugs!!!

[Junie]

I had my operation on my ear and it went fine. I'm currently in the hospital hoping the general anesthesia, cortisone infusion, and antibiotics don't mess up my cycle, especially since this was my first cycle taking soy. I had EWCM but forgot to bring OPKs with so can't confirm if the CM is just due to all the crazy meds. I made sure to BD yesterday morning just in case I ovulate early (which has never happened but I would be so frustrated if we missed a chance) I should be out of the hospital tomorrow and then will be able to use an OPK and see what is going on. I have pretty much no hope for this cycle though as I'm sure the meds will mess everything up. Again.

[tm29]

Thank so so much Junie. Really nice to hear from you.

I'm so sorry about your ear op. My gosh - that is just an added craziness you do not need. I really really hope it doesn't mess up this cycle for you because enough is enough. I am really watching your journey with hope.

Why I'm getting AF at 9dpo I do not know. It frightens me a lot. The dr says I should test sunday night and start clomid monday if it's bfn . I'll then have a scan next thursday and then he'll give me progesterone to stop me bleeding so early. Sounds fun, doesn't it? And the expense is... all part of the fun. And the fear I have about taking clomid is ENORMOUS CRAZY TERRIBLE despite the 'I got a boy on clomid' stories. I just have a feeling those were all fantastically healthy boy-type mothers and clomid made no difference to them. But for me on the other hand...

Thanks for telling me about older mothers - it's great to hear. Even though I feel like I have driven myself to the brink of despair in the hopes of having a little boy, I do also just want to have another baby. I adore my little girl and I know it would be just the same with another one. Maybe it's time to forget this baby boy dream. I think it's a big help to be young if you sway blue. Being older is already a pink sway in itself.

Wow. Hard day. Junie, I really hope you feel better and I think it's amazing you BD before you went to hospital in case you O early. That is amazing planning!

[djmommy]

Thanks djmommy. Are you swaying pink or blue? Nice to have a fellow 39-er around here. I'm sorry to hear you've been on a long journey. What you and I need is short journeys.

I definitely had a +opk - but I guess it's possible I didn't ovulate. I've been trying to avoid clomid because people use it for pink sways, but I'll definitely be taking anything I'm given from here on in. I so, so wanted a little boy, but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen. Extra hard that a friend just emailed to say - great news! Yes, you guessed it. A little boy. And yes I am happy for her but I am also in a very sorry for myself state of why-oh-why-can't-that-be-me.

I haven't been charting, but you may be remembering my story. I had no cycles after bfing my daughter. Then I got pg with clomid. Then lost the baby at 12 wks. Then had 3 d and c's to resolve the issue. Then 4 months no cycle. Now this. All while steadily gaining weight on the HE. So, so fun. Real high point in my life.

Ok. complaining over. djmommy - I hope you get your bfp this month and get out of this crazy game. It's too stressful! FX for you.

HI tm29! I am actually swaying pink as I have 2 little boys that I adore. This journey has been extremely hard but I so want another baby as I do not feel like my family is complete so I will keep trying. Unfortunately as you know 39 is not "optimal" but most definitely not impossible and I have to continue to wait for the "golden egg" as Atomic says. I also know plenty of older moms. I did not know anything about your situation and I am so terribly sorry for your loss. I think it definitely takes your body a decent time to recover and I am glad you will be seeing the doctor. I think it would be a good idea to get a bloodwork panel done to check your hormone levels. Instead of clomid maybe you can see if it is possible to get femera as I believe it is a much better option for us "older" gals :) I do know the devastation all too much each month and it is soooo very hard but don't lose faith! It will happen!! :heart:

[djmommy]

I had my operation on my ear and it went fine. I'm currently in the hospital hoping the general anesthesia, cortisone infusion, and antibiotics don't mess up my cycle, especially since this was my first cycle taking soy. I had EWCM but forgot to bring OPKs with so can't confirm if the CM is just due to all the crazy meds. I made sure to BD yesterday morning just in case I ovulate early (which has never happened but I would be so frustrated if we missed a chance) I should be out of the hospital tomorrow and then will be able to use an OPK and see what is going on. I have pretty much no hope for this cycle though as I'm sure the meds will mess everything up. Again.

Glad to hear that everything went well for you Junie! I am hoping that you recover quickly! Hopefully the soy will help you also!

[XXforhubby]

I just want to jump in and say, I'm so sorry TM29 [emoji22]! Please be kind to yourself! You absolutely have an excellent shot at blue with everything you have done! Please take comfort in what I am about to tell you. At least three of my friends, all of whom couldn't conceive on their own and unknowingly (1 intentionally swayed blue), had to have Clomid to conceive their blue bundles. Their age ranges from 33, 37, and 40. I wouldn't bat an eye about taking Clomid given how much weight you've gained on the HE diet and all of the other sway factors you are doing!

If it were me, I would definitely chose Clomid over Femara. We have been seeing great results with pink on Femara than with Clomid. Of course check this out with Atomic, but please remember that one away factor will NOT trump everything else you have done and are doing!!

I just know your little man is waiting for the perfect egg to come to you, I just know it [emoji170][emoji170]!


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[HealthyGirl]

I'm sorry tm29 AF showed up.
I definitely didn't know about your previous miscarriage.
Please don't lose hope.
It's normal to feel negative about the whole thing bc it happens to everyone of us.

I know you rather not get medical help but if you have to then that's what you need to do to get your little boy.

Hang in there !

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[HealthyGirl]

Junie you are indeed a great multitasker!

Can't believe you bd before before your hospital visit.
I hope the meds don't mess anything up and catch the egg [emoji2]


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[XXforhubby]

Junie- wow! I hope you recover quickly! You are amazing for having an attempt before getting your operation done! Way to go! I sure hope you get a BFP this cycle!


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[smarston3]

TM-I'm so sorry. I've read this a couple times "Uterus, you have one job, please don't suck at it" sorry that your body let you down. Hugs!

Junie-sweet gracious! sorry that you went thru so much but hope it helps your sway

good luck ladies!!

[Grace]

So sorry you're all struggling ladies, but it's not any different for me. AF arrived yesterday, four days late. TBH I didn't even feel any of my usual fake pregnancy symptoms, so I wasn't surprised to see it. I am however getting discouraged from this ttc business. My three boys were conceived first attempt, and now it has been four months since my mc and nothing!! This last cycle we dtd every three days in order to increase my chances but no luck. Two weeks ago I stopped BF my two year old, so maybe that will change things for me. I'll be turning 41 (!) In May, so it feels like it's now or never really.

[Junie]

Grace- I'm so sorry about AF showing up. Personally I think it must be the miscarriages that are messing things up so much for you, me, and TM29. I really am just now hoping for what feels like a miracle. Since the miscarriage I seem to be having such bad health luck and I know being on all these medicines are just making everything much worse. I just keep telling myself that every failed cycle brings us closer to a spring baby which would also be great, and hoping hoping hoping it all works out for us soon. Although normally my charts have been such a mess that I don't even have hope :(

[Junie]

I just had to be given an insulin shot in my stomach because the high levels of cortisone raised my blood sugar. I'm never going to get pregnant if things keep on like this :(

[Grace]

Thanks Junie! I agree about a spring baby, though so far I've only had winter babies. Three times I was due in spring or summer but ended up having two mcs and one premee....:-(
Hope you get better soon xxx

[Junie]

Thanks Grace. I hope you have another winter baby coming- I've always liked having January for a birthday :)

[HealthyGirl]

I'm sorry Grace.
It's my 3rd cycle TTC too.
I don't think it's only our age. I think it's our pink away which makes it super difficult.
Hang in there!



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[atomic sagebrush]

It takes fully fertile couples doing nothing to sway, 3-6 months on average to TTC a baby. That is why your doctor won't see you for fertility treatment until 9-12 months - because you DON'T NEED IT and most people will get pregnant within that time. If you got pregnant with your boys faster, that's because you were fortunate, not because you are ever after issued a guarantee of how long it will take you to get pregnant.

Swaying can make it a bit harder, I just hate to see you guys misdiagnosing the problem and looking for some "fix" when it is probably just one of those things. If you look in our stats, it is taking most people an average of about 3 cycles to get pregnant.

[tm29]

[QUOTE=HealthyGirl;705617]I'm sorry Grace.
It's my 3rd cycle TTC too.
I don't think it's only our age. I think it's our pink away which makes it super difficult.
Hang in there!"

I think it's definitely the pink sway that makes it so difficult for you. And I think you're right Junie, mcs are also a big factor because even though I'm doing a BLUE sway I'm finding it difficult too. Grace, I am really sorry to hear what's going on for you. Can you get clomid? It wouldn't be a bad idea if you're swaying pink after all. Or is there a reason you can't take it?

Junie - these awful health issues just have to stop. I wonder if they're also related to the mc. It is such a terrible thing to go through. Like being hit by a truck. Why wouldn't the immune system suffer? Makes sense. Poor you - I really want it to stop so you can get your cycle back together.

I have to make a big decision THIS SUNDAY about whether or not to take clomid on Monday. Imagine you wanted a baby boy just as much as you guys (most of you!) want a baby girl. Imagine you've been doing a really good, careful blue sway, gained 14lbs a lot of it muscle and really improved your condition and that this has been a really big tearful hard fight for you to achieve. Then imagine you have 2 cycles where you get AF at 10dpo then 9dpo and you are 39. Would you take Clomid - knowing it really does have an effect on cm and could undo some/a lot/all of your good work? I am ovulating naturally...

But I also so so so want this to be over. I started swaying August 1st last year!!!

Clomid or not? If you were in my position? I have to decide this weekend. I'd be so grateful if any of you have a view.

[XXforhubby]

Tm29- I would take Clomid in a hot minute, if it were me. Clomid is NOT the holy grail of pink sways, by any means! There is NOT a magic bullet! While it helps people get pregnant and can HELP a pink sway, it DOESN'T sway pink by itself! If it did, hell I would've gladly taken it when I had the chance! It only helps a pink sway if you are doing all the other things. YOU are doing none of those things! I don't think you have anything to worry about! Oh and another friend who was swaying for a boy and took Clomid, just texted me a sono pic of a penis and ball sac! She is having a boy and just turned 38!

Take it, lift some weights, have a protein shake, and have your 3-4 attempts in your fertile window. Plus, take ALL of my patented baby boy dust, PLEASE (For DH's sake!) [emoji4]!

[emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94] this just dumped in your front lawn [emoji6]!


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[Junie]

Atomic: I know you are right- it is also what I tell everyone else but telling it to other people and listening to the logic myself are two different things LOL. Plus I sincerely believe that TTC makes most of us a bit crazy :D
I do think my cycles are very messed up after the miscarriage (last one was 50 days) but overall I know being on cycle three isn't at all a long time. It is just hard feeling like everything has not gotten back to normal even though the miscarriage was 4 months ago.

TM29: For me no question, I would take clomid. You've been doing a great sway and I think the diet, frequent BDing,etc will make up for it. Although I can't guarantee it :)

[tm29]

Atomic: I know you are right- it is also what I tell everyone else but telling it to other people and listening to the logic myself are two different things LOL. Plus I sincerely believe that TTC makes most of us a bit crazy :D
I do think my cycles are very messed up after the miscarriage (last one was 50 days) but overall I know being on cycle three isn't at all a long time. It is just hard feeling like everything has not gotten back to normal even though the miscarriage was 4 months ago.

TM29: For me no question, I would take clomid. You've been doing a great sway and I think the diet, frequent BDing,etc will make up for it. Although I can't guarantee it :)

I have also been told this - about it taking an average of 3 cycles - by atomic TODAY and I believed it 100% for a whole two hours. Then I began going crazy again. You're right Junie - ttc does make you crazy. It sounds right that it should take a few cycles. It's weird that we all got pg so easily before. Not that I would take that away from any of us - it was great!

Thank you Junie and XX for what you say about clomid. XX I love the sound of your friend! She must be so happy!

So you'd take it. Hmmm.

[tm29]

Tm29- I would take Clomid in a hot minute, if it were me. Clomid is NOT the holy grail of pink sways, by any means! There is NOT a magic bullet! While it helps people get pregnant and can HELP a pink sway, it DOESN'T sway pink by itself! If it did, hell I would've gladly taken it when I had the chance! It only helps a pink sway if you are doing all the other things. YOU are doing none of those things! I don't think you have anything to worry about! Oh and another friend who was swaying for a boy and took Clomid, just texted me a sono pic of a penis and ball sac! She is having a boy and just turned 38!

Take it, lift some weights, have a protein shake, and have your 3-4 attempts in your fertile window. Plus, take ALL of my patented baby boy dust, PLEASE (For DH's sake!) [emoji4]!

[emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94] this just dumped in your front lawn [emoji6]!


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I just absorbed the fact that your friend was actually SWAYING for a boy when she took clomid. So it didn't worry her? That's amazing she did it!

[XXforhubby]

It worried her a little bit. What worried her more though was it taking a while for her to get pregnant due to her age.


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[purple]

Take the clomid! As everyone says the boy sway will counteract any girl sway the clomid has. My 1st was with clomid and a boy friendly lifestyle :)

[Rosie85]

I know someone who had 2 boys using clomid! It doesnt mean girl for sure at all!

[Dreamofpink]

I took Clomid for my sway in 2013 & was blessed with ds3.
Please feel free to read my sway as I had been on a strict LE diet and still had another boy. Ask yourself if you'd rather have any baby over no baby? You just never know when your last golden egg will be :(
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[tm29]

Dreamofpink, Rosie, Purple, XX - THANK YOU! Well, I'm surprised that you're all so positive.
Ugh. I've only had 2 attempts since my mc because I had no cycle at all for a while.... But I so want to just GET PREGNANT. I'm going to think really hard about everything you say. Thank you - it's really helpful. :)

[seabeewife]

Ugh I hope this is my month. . DH won't be home until after I o next month. If I conceive in June I'll have another March baby (I really want my kids to have different birthday month's). I had horrible back pains yesterday at what I believe it 2 dpo. Never had that before. I hate the 2ww lol!

[Junie]

I hope this is your month too seabeewife!

[Grace]

Junie how are you doing today?

[seabeewife]

Me too Junie.. especially because he will miss a birth again if not and the 1st 6 months of his/her life.

[Junie]

I'm OK Grace, tomorrow afternoon I get to leave the hospital which I am SO excited about. I'm just trying to let go when it comes to TTC. I just don't have control over when it will happen and I don't want to think about it anymore. This last month has been so miserable with all my illness and now I just want to enjoy the boys, enjoy spring, and enjoy life.

How are you doing?

[Junie]

Seabee- That is just so much pressure, I'm sorry hun.

[Grace]

Junie,I think letting go is one of the major lessons of this ttc journey... I'm taking it one day at a time, trying to figure out what I want and hope things work out for the best.

[tm29]

I'm feeling very confused. I was convinced this was AF but am I actually having the heaviest IB ever?!!! I just tested as a formality to make certain I'm not pg before taking clomid on Monday. This is very very faint, perhaps one of you will tell me I'm imagining it - or that you get weird results like this with FRER. I'm 11dpo and this test was taken in the evening. I did a second one and got the same result. What an emotional rollercoaster I am on. It's surely not possible IB could be this heavy and crampy...
:nails:

[HealthyGirl]

That looks positive to me tm29.
Are you still having bleeding?


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

That's what my FRER looked like with DS4 10 or 11dpo!!! And I DID have IB!


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[seabeewife]

That's a bfp congrats tm29!!!!

[tm29]

That looks positive to me tm29.
Are you still having bleeding?


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The bleeding has slowed down a lot. But my AF is often only 2/3 days. The only diff btwn this and my usual AF is this was a lot HEAVIER. I am completely AMAZED by this!!!

Thank you ladies! I was really desperate for a 2nd opinion. DH is OUT!! He won't be back until really late.

[Junie]

Definitely positive, congrats congrats!!!

[sc1411]

OMG! Congratulations tm29!

Maybe call a doctor and tell about the bleeding and pos test.