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XXforhubby
March 27th, 2015, 10:57 PM
Spring is in the air! Hopefully this will bring on some more BFPs [emoji235]! Welcome to those that are just beginning to TTC, and welcome back those that have already begun their journey! [emoji8][emoji92][emoji170][emoji175][emoji94]
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HealthyGirl
March 27th, 2015, 11:28 PM
Thanks for starting this.
Shouldn't you be leaving this thread ? ;)
I'm only 7 DPO.
I will start testing 10 DPO and maybe I will get lucky with my ONE attempt.
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XXforhubby
March 27th, 2015, 11:30 PM
Oh I will never leave until I see my gals along on their journey!
FX and [emoji120]for you!
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covered in blue
March 27th, 2015, 11:41 PM
Aaaaahh so excited to see this. Think we will start May (if Atomic says that's OK). Can't wait! April is so close . Hope there are lots of BFPs! Good luck Ladies xx
HealthyGirl
March 28th, 2015, 12:10 AM
You are so sweet xxforhubby
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Sunbuny
March 28th, 2015, 06:02 AM
Good luck girls! Wishing you all quick BFPs and healthy desired genders xx
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seabeewife
March 31st, 2015, 11:16 AM
Coming in from the March 2ww. I'm 5 dpo. Hope to see lots of BFP's in here :)
XXforhubby
March 31st, 2015, 12:32 PM
Coming in from the March 2ww. I'm 5 dpo. Hope to see lots of BFP's in here :)
FX and GL Seabee!!
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seabeewife
March 31st, 2015, 01:14 PM
Could be nothing. . But I brushed my teeth this morning and there was a ton of blood. This never happens, maybe sometimes when I floss but definitely not brushing! We will see I guess. I hate the 2ww!!
maidentomother
March 31st, 2015, 06:14 PM
It's technically April where I am so here goes! I'm 3, almost 4DPO my 9th cycle TTC and over a year swaying pink. If I'm not pregnant I will be taking a break ftom swaying & TTC, likely until December, though I may try one cycle in June/July if the timing works out. I've gone off the LE diet though I will refrain from snacking until 12DPO.
I was planning on not testing early, just waiting for AF, as I find the latter much less disappointing than days of stark white BFNs cycle after cycle. BUT I just got a bunch of FRERs and 10miu Sure Predict HPTs that a friend brought me from the US, so now I'm tempted to test early! I tested starting 6-8DPO for my first 6 cycles TTC but only once did I test with a FRER, all other times I tested with crappy insensitive tests. I also don't get early BFPs, basically all types of urine tests don't work well for me. So should I use some tests? I have 8 FRERs and 20 SPs. I was supposed to get OSOMs, too but they didn't come in time.
XXforhubby
March 31st, 2015, 11:10 PM
I would test maybe starting 8DPO, since you have a short LP.
I am Xing and [emoji120]so, so hard that this cycle brings your BFP! Seriously, my fingers and toes are hurting!!
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Sunbuny
April 1st, 2015, 12:00 AM
I really hope it's a BFP Maiden!
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Hbuhs
April 1st, 2015, 02:03 AM
Hey ladies! I'm coming in from March 2ww, also. I got my AF and am presently on cd9. This will be our second month ttc (on femera) and I would love a little Christmas DD!! Fx to all!
purple
April 1st, 2015, 05:56 AM
I'm 9dpo today and still slightly nauseous. I'm also really tired but that could be too many late nights lately!
I tested today which was silly as it is too early.. BFN. I have never got a positive this early so I don't know why I tried, clearly no self control. I was planning on just waiting it out until AF was due. I think I will wait until Good Friday now.
maidentomother
April 1st, 2015, 11:48 AM
Welcome hbuhs! Purple, I hope you see that BFP soon.
I had a crazy low temp this morning. I've never seen such a low LP temp! I did wake up much earlier than usual and didn't sleep as much as I normally do but still...wity vaginal temps those factors shouldn't lower my temp.
eleena2014
April 1st, 2015, 05:06 PM
Joining you guys from the march 2ww thread. So disapointed that af arrived today. 3 days late and was secretly thinking this was our month and we caught the egg...but obviously not. Because I'm three days late due I take it I will probably ovulate approx 14 days from now or do I go by my usual cycle? I will still be testing with opks. I will buy more this time though
HealthyGirl
April 1st, 2015, 05:27 PM
Joining everyone here.
Deciding if we want to do only one attempt this month and if so when.
I have a fertility monitor that I used when I conceived my son. So I decided to buy some sticks for it and use it along with my wondfo OPKs.
Anyone has had experience with the monitor? Or does anyone have a preference over the clear blue digital sticks versus the monitor?
I just feel I need something else besides wondfo OPKs since I haven't had success with them.
Also the instructions on my clear blue monitor say to use first urine catch. I thought first urine catch wasn't ideal. So confused.
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Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 01:18 AM
Hi ladies today should be CD 1 for me so I'll be here periodically for the coming weeks as I have never Od before CD17 last cycle CD25.
I hope to see lots of BFPs soon!
Maiden I would wait until 9DPO to test. I think earlier is a waste of time 99% of the time. But you have the tests so... :)
Purple- Those all sound like great signs!
Seabeewife- sounds very promising to me!!
Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 03:35 AM
Maiden and anyone else who charts- Do you think I O'd? I've been looking at my chart and symptoms and I'm starting to think my fever which came along with my cold, messed my temps up more than I thought. Of course I could get AF today but I don't mind feeling a bit silly in front of you all. I'm wondering if my cold and then my infection pushed O back. I'm still getting positive OPKS (although I did get those at the end of last cycle as well) but I really had so few days of high temps and I normally have a very clear shift and a very nice rise. It could also still be after effects of the miscarriage but FF also took away my cross-hairs after I added "fever" to the first few days I was sick. I guess nothing left to do but wait and see but I would love some input. I did get pregnant on CD41 with my first son, so ovulating this late wouldn't be totally strange for me.:think:
MY CHART (http://genderdreaming.com/forum/redirect-to/?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fertilityfriend.com%2Fh ome%2F1fff8e)
purple
April 2nd, 2015, 06:11 AM
Sorry AF got you eleena2014 :(
I'm not really sure what is going on Junie. It looks like you could have O'd but more likely it was delayed from the sickness. It is the positive OPKs that make me think O was delayed. I assume you have tried a HPT?
Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 07:28 AM
Thanks for your thoughts Purple. I get a very faint evap line on a IC after time limit. My temps are not in my pregnancy range so I can't imagine that I'm pregnant. I will keep taking ICs and OPKs if AF doesn't come and my temps go up. I managed to BD today as I thought it was our last chance before AF comes and I've been so sick that we haven't been able to in almost a week. Honestly I'm still pretty sick but with my long cycles and long AF I thought I better give hubby a chance LOL but at least if I do O in the next few days I have it covered.
sageviolet
April 2nd, 2015, 08:04 AM
Hugs for eleena and healthygirl!
Junie, hope you're recovering well. Your chart is mysterious. So is mine. I should've o'ed on Sunday and thought I did based on opk+, cm, and breast tenderness, but my temps didn't go up. I haven't had a cycle this wacky since my old thermometer last summer. I don't think dd dropped this one and it shouldn't be a dieing battery yet should it? The other possibility is that I'm now paying the price for the stressful event I had during the 2ww last month, even though the situation is now resolved and I'm feeling peaceful and fine. Except for my frustrating chart! lol Any thoughts? I'm trying to stay chilled. I didn't really want a Christmas baby anyway. Maybe January is it. It'll come when the time is right. My next acupuncture treatment is next week.
maidentomother
April 2nd, 2015, 08:16 AM
Eleena, I would assume you're Oing later in your cycle than you think and keep OPKing after your positive. Also I'd BD every 3-4 days starting once you're near O. I'm sorry AF came. :(
Junie, I think both are possibilities. When illness/fever is involved there's just no way to be sure. I wouldn't be surprised if AF shows up nor would you Oing now surprise me.
Healthy, I've used the monitor. Not a big fan bc of the one testing window each day. I vastly prefer the CBAD which usually is very accurate. The monitor did work well for me when iused it precisely but that was a big hassle for me.
sage, hugs! Delayed O is so frustrating. I hope you O soon...or later so you get a Jan baby.
So happy to see a high temp today...even if it doesn't mean anything!
eleena2014
April 2nd, 2015, 08:22 AM
I will do maiden. I'm gonna but about 30 strips from eBay. Lol
Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 08:43 AM
Sage- Your temps are in a nice post O range and are going up. I wonder if you'll have a triphasic chart? I still see you with a Christmas baby!
Maiden- I love your chart, I hope you are also taking home a Christmas baby!!
HealthyGirl
April 2nd, 2015, 09:54 AM
maiden, with the monitor it says to use first urine catch is that ok?
Junie I wish I knew what your chart meant but I'm clueless.
Eleena, you and I are both CD 2 today. I will just wait for you to tell me it's time to bd. Lol :)
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tm29
April 2nd, 2015, 10:11 AM
Hi All - Joining you here after a LONG wait for my cycle to return after a loss. But I'm right here with you all now. On CD5...
I'm feeling fat and muscular and I can't fit into any of my clothes and I just want to get pregnant so this all seems worth it!!! I know that's how all of you feel too - just letting off my share of the steam. Swaying is so hard, isn't it? But we are all doing what doesn't come naturally to us...
Good luck everyone. Let's be the bizarre, legendary 2ww thread in which every single member got pregnant. :)
seabeewife
April 2nd, 2015, 10:50 AM
I've had the worst cramps the last two days :/ feels like the cramps I get before and during AF. I hope being with family all weekend keeps my mind off of this symptom spotting.
tm29
April 2nd, 2015, 11:53 AM
Seabeewife ikwym about symptom spotting it is exhausting. I haven't caught up on where you are but it sounds like you're almost there. When are you going to test?
seabeewife
April 2nd, 2015, 12:28 PM
I'm 7 dpo, so I don't plan to test for at least three or four days. With DS2 I got a faint positive at 8 dpo, but I'd rather hold out and wait instead of seeing a BFN.
seabeewife
April 2nd, 2015, 03:51 PM
So I have ZERO self control. I just used my last HPT. . I felt like a complete idiot as I was doing it. But I got a very very very faint line!! I'm going to wait until Monday to test again (I don't have a choice now that I have none left) but hopefully by then it will be dark enough to confirm it! After 4 months of ttc with a 6 1/2 month deployment break I'm so ready for a BFP!
smarston3
April 2nd, 2015, 04:28 PM
Seabee-yippee!! Post a pic please
tm-hi!! Sorry it took you so long to join us
So, just to bring everyone up to speed with me. Did clomid last cycle with no luck. (Using for sway only) went in for day 3 testing this cycle and my estradiol is high. Returned on day 6, estrogen rose again and have two follicles growing. We are going to BD tonight and Monday so we don't miss the egg but the RE is thinking I won't ovulate on my own with my levels out of wack. I will go in on Monday for testing again. Don't know if they would let me start clomid then, or not at all this cycle. Basically, can't say where I am in my cycle based on labs. And at ultrasound yesterday, she thought she saw a yolk sack starting to develop...blood pregnancy negative
FX that we all join the due date club together
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HealthyGirl
April 2nd, 2015, 05:09 PM
I hope it's your BFP seebeewife .
How many attempts did you have if you don't mind me asking.
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Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 05:38 PM
Hi TM29!!! Yay that you can finally TTC again :)
Seabeewife- EXCITING!!! Although I would never be able to wait till Monday to test again LOL.
Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 05:40 PM
Smarston- I'm confused, how can a yolk sac be developing before ovulation? What CD are you at?
maidentomother
April 2nd, 2015, 05:43 PM
Healthy, I would use the darkest urine I could get before the testing window expired. I havd issues getting concentrated urine and monitors only work for me if I use the same colour urine to test every day. Often it is FMU but not always.
seabee, how exciting! What brand test?
smarston, could they trigger you?
purple
April 2nd, 2015, 06:42 PM
Well I was going to test this morning but then noticed spotting and now AF has started. This means I only had a 10 day LP this month, my hormones probably weren't the greatest after having 20 days of spotting instead of a real AF so I wasn't expecting to get pregnant but of course I still hang onto the chance!
I can now add nausea to my list of PMS symptoms so I won't get my hopes up next time. Anyway, I'm happy to be getting a proper AF so hopefully next month will be better for trying!
Junie
April 2nd, 2015, 06:48 PM
I hope this next cycle brings you a BFP Purple!!! It will be nice to have a clean start- maybe your body just needed a reset :)
maidentomother
April 2nd, 2015, 06:52 PM
Hugs purple, I hope it sets you up nicely for a good strong egg.
smarston3
April 2nd, 2015, 07:06 PM
Purple, so sorry!
Technically, I'm on day 9. However, with my estrogen out of wack that might not be accurate. Which is why they were concerned I was pregnant. I am not.
Maiden- the plan was clomid and trigger...but, no clomid yet. Hopefully, I won't O before Monday and they can trigger me. fX for you too
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Junie
April 3rd, 2015, 12:28 AM
Smarston- I hope the timing works out!!!
Junie
April 3rd, 2015, 01:24 AM
CD1 for me. I guess it was just wishful thinking to hope that I hadn't Od. What a terrible cycle. Oh well. Bummed that I'm now half a year out from the due date of the baby we miscarried and no longer have a chance for a 2015 baby. But nothing I can do about it.
Junie
April 3rd, 2015, 01:45 AM
I just realized that due to my ear infection I'll be on high doses of steroids (prednisolone) until CD10 or the 12th of April. Apparently it only takes 36 hrs for it to leave the body so hopefully this timing works out to not affect O! But since O doesn't normally come for me until CD25+ I guess I'm not going to worry and just hope that being so sick sways girl but that I still O and can get pregnant this cycle!
smarston3
April 3rd, 2015, 07:57 AM
Sorry junie. What a bummer and a hard time for you
No BD last night. Think we'll do tonight instead. It should -2 before expected O if my body is working normally. I took an OPK yesterday just for fun and it was very faint. Hopefully, today's will be darker and make me feel better about our attempt tonight
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TaytumJ
April 3rd, 2015, 09:14 AM
Can I finally join here??! FF gave me crosshairs after I marked two temps questionable as I was sick (one was ridiculously high, and the other one was the higher-ish one the day after that one). I'm not sure what I think - I thought maybe CD39, but I think that I at least definitely see an upward motion? Just figured I'd get an expert opinion from all of you ladies and whether you think I actually did O, too!
maidentomother
April 3rd, 2015, 09:23 AM
I think you probably just Oed 2 days ago on CD44; CD39 is possible but not likely IMO especially in light of last cygke's post O temps. Fx for you and nice to see you posting again!
tm29
April 3rd, 2015, 10:01 AM
Anyone have any good stories about using an hcg trigger shot? I'm CD5 now and I'll be getting scanned next Weds, on cd11. I'm really hoping the dr will say everything looks fine - lining good, an egg or to growing nicely - and that we'll just do a trigger to be on the safe side.
I'm basically hoping to avoid Clomid because I'm swaying blue. I have been doing a very good sway and I am the OPPOSITE kind of environment from when I conceived DD - but my mc last dec had complications and my cycle stopped completely until last week. O'ing without clomid would be VERY LUCKY - but since you pink swayers use it as a pink sway tactic, I was definitely going to hope for the best at least for one month. Anyway - anyone have a good word to say about hcg triggers, I'd be grateful to hear it.
Junie - I feel like we've been in this for a while. I SO SO want you to get your bfp this cycle. Purple, Taytum - I've been following your stories too and I'm really rooting for you. Maiden, I'm also v much rooting for you and also very impressed by your knowledge!
TaytumJ
April 3rd, 2015, 10:15 AM
I also wondered that as well, Maiden! I feel like I actually did have some EWCM the other night, but didn't know if it was because of BDing (although it was much "thicker" than normal post BDing EWCM). I'm only going to temp for a few more days and if I can see an actual temp shift and feel confident in it then I'm going to stop temping. I've kind of been more relaxed as I've had a job interview this week so been focused on that and not TTC. It's been nice to not analyze that stupid temp every morning!
tm29 - still love that pic. :) I was concerned about having to start Clomid too if I didn't start O'ing at a decent time (if May comes and not much improvement I will go to the doctor for some more support) but Maiden & Atomic told me that pink swayers use Clomid with the diet/exercise and everything else. But, if you use Clomid with some sort of lubrication/boy diet/exercise, you still have a good shot at swaying blue. I was worried about it as well. I'll be following along with you!
Junie
April 3rd, 2015, 10:37 AM
Taytum- Great to see you here again! I agree with Maiden on the CD44 as potential O date.
TM29- I don't know anything about triggers but I do know I've got everything crossed that you get pregnant this cycle!!! With a bouncing healthy baby boy :)
tm29
April 3rd, 2015, 11:14 AM
Taytum - I am really with you re Clomid. It's obviously right - as Atomic and Maiden say - that the results for Clomid are clomid+pink sways. But I feel like it is definitely not a plus however you look at it. I want to try this one month without and if I don't O on my own, then I will take it next month. Sounds like you'll do the same? I wish I could forget my worries about clomid, I really do. I was pg last time with it (before my mc) and it worked like a charm - first month! But I was really worried all 3 months of my pregnancy that I had taken it.
I would love someone to tell me I have ZERO need to feel Clomid is an issue - but they can't. Obviously. Ugh!
JUNIE - you are lovely. Thank you.
XXforhubby
April 3rd, 2015, 11:54 AM
FWIW, my neighbor had to have Clomid twice and has two boys. I think diet, type of exercise, and how many attempts in your fertile window sway more strongly than anything.
FX for you and GL!
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fefecooks
April 3rd, 2015, 12:45 PM
What is the safest antibiotic to take during the 2WW for a UTI? I'm looking at my pill bottle prescribed by doc that says not to take during pregnancy.
tm29
April 3rd, 2015, 12:49 PM
I love this story XX. Thanks.
tm29
April 3rd, 2015, 12:51 PM
What is the safest antibiotic to take during the 2WW for a UTI? I'm looking at my pill bottle prescribed by doc that says not to take during pregnancy.
I don't think you can take anything. I had cystitis and was told to drink water and take a pregnancy-friendly pain-killer if the pain was really bad. Not great! But if you have something worse than cystitis then perhaps there are other options.
maidentomother
April 3rd, 2015, 02:36 PM
tm29, thank you! I hope this cycle goes well for you and you don't need Clomid to O. But if you do, you should know some women respond to it atypically, producing MORE EWCM than usual. I suspect that in these cases Clomid isn't swaying pink or barely so. You could be one of these eomen. Even if you aren't, you have an amazing GD blue sway to back you up. There have been a number if failed pink sways on Clomid too, so if they can still get boys you have an even better shot.
Taytum, any semen that drips out after 15 minutes is liquefied, so thick stuff is all you. Good luck with the interview!
fefecooks, as both a pharmacist and long time sufferer if frequent UTIs, I recommend Macrodantin (nitrofurantoin), a category B drug. You definitely want to treat that UTI with antibiotics rather than risk a more serious infection that could spread to the kidneys.
fefecooks
April 3rd, 2015, 02:39 PM
It's just cystitis based on symptoms. I was reading that folic acid could be the culprit.
sageviolet
April 3rd, 2015, 04:20 PM
So happy to see my team blue buddies back! Love you tm and Taytum!
I am wondering if my odd temps are because I stopped the wheatgrass? I ordered some more today. I was also reading in "The Infertility Cure" book which xx recommended awhile ago that a sawtooth up and down temp pattern relates to stagnant liver qi, a pattern often associated with stress, and that totally adds up. Also, the uterus and eyes are both on the liver meridian, and I've had a sty lately. So I'm trying some of the things the book suggests for that condition, and I'll see what my acupuncturist says next week.
I really think I'm out this cycle, but I did have wacky temps the cycle I conceived the m/c, although I always thought that was from sleeping poorly with the Lyme.
TaytumJ
April 3rd, 2015, 05:02 PM
So good to see you guys and be back! We'll get those blue beans soon Sage & tm! <3
fefecooks: did you tell your doc that you're TTC? If not, you could try calling back and letting them know if you're worried about it. I hope you get to feeling better - UTIs really suck. :(
tm: I agree with XX! I was just talking to the girl who does my nails and she said that with her second boy she was on Clomid because she wasn't O'ing. I know how scared you are - I share the same fears! But I have confidence that the rest of our sways are pretty solid and we've been working on them for a while now that the Clomid will be far less of a pink sway.
Maiden: Good to know! I feel the same thing happened to me last time I O'd too - I had some EWCM, but I wasn't sure if it was from BDing or not. Maybe one good day of EWCM (on the day that I O) will do the trick! :) What are your thoughts on your chart this month? I apologize I didn't read through all of the old posts, but I feel like your chart looks awesome this month! Has a great upward motion!
Sage: What are you on the wheatgrass for? It kind of looks like the seesawing is getting a little smaller the last few temps? Hopefully it evens itself out soon! We got some blue babies to make!
fefecooks
April 3rd, 2015, 05:05 PM
I told her that we baby danced 2 days before the appointment so maybe it slipped her mind? They were out today so I'll have to wait until Monday.
purple
April 3rd, 2015, 06:07 PM
My first son was conceived with clomid :) I didn't know anything about swaying then and we were just trying our best to get pregnant and it resulted in a very boy friendly attempt. Out of people I personally know who have used clomid more have boys but they also weren't swaying.
maidentomother
April 3rd, 2015, 08:46 PM
Taytum, if you click on my chart link you can see the past year plus of my charts...and I truly think this month's is one of the ugliest and strangest charts I've ever has! That super low temp at 4DPO is crazy low for me, I've never had anything like that. And Oing on the day of my lowest temp and a much lower than usual lowest temp is weird too. I've been having a few symptoms the past few days, which normally I don't have unless I'm on Vitex or have a cyst. But I have elements of both together that I haven't had separately.
I had seriously no appetite for 2 weeks leading up to O and had to force feed myself. Amazingly I still gained weight as I had wanted to do, since I was worried I was too thin. Then pretty suddenly since yesterday or late Wed night I've been hungry again. A frequent and urgent sort of hunger. But I know I shouldn't read into all these things as it will only get my hopes up. And then I'll be extra crushed.
fefecooks, did you see my post above about antibiotics? You posted when I did so maybe you missed it.
XXforhubby
April 3rd, 2015, 09:30 PM
I am Xing everything and [emoji120] for you Maiden!!!
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TaytumJ
April 3rd, 2015, 10:19 PM
That's the first thing I noticed when I clicked on your chart, Maiden - the big 4dpo dip! That immediately stuck out to me. They do say sometimes the ugliest charts are the BFPs. [emoji4] what are some of the symptoms you normally have with Vitex/cyst? I have everything crossed for you!
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tm29
April 4th, 2015, 06:27 AM
Thanks Taytum and Purple - so good to hear that. And thanks Maiden - great to add the thought that I might respond that way. You never know. And of course I will be using preseed. Taytum, it's nice to share this aspect of the journey with you. I get it!
Wow, I REALLY hope the trigger shot is enough this cycle. I won't kick myself for wasting the time if it isn't enough and I do need clomid next cycle because I did want to try ONCE without it. But I am really glad to hear the boy/clomid stories and I'm storing them up just in case I need them, which I probably will. Off I go for acupuncture now. I'm doing everything I can. My house is full of dumbells! But I am so miserable with all the weight and muscle I've gained I do just want this to end.
I really hope it works for all three of you this cycle. I've never charted - fascinating to hear you analyse the data.
smarston3
April 4th, 2015, 08:05 AM
Tm-hope you have good timing
Maiden--hope the funky chart means BFP.
So, we BDed last night and I think I have EWCM this morning. Any need to take an antihistamine now?
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XXforhubby
April 4th, 2015, 08:16 AM
Tm-hope you have good timing
Maiden--hope the funky chart means BFP.
So, we BDed last night and I think I have EWCM this morning. Any need to take an antihistamine now?
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No. I would wait and see what your CM is like around your next attempt, if you are doing BDing every four days.
FX for you!!!
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smarston3
April 4th, 2015, 08:23 AM
Thanks XX. Very interested to find out when I O. Poor DH thinks we're in the 2ww now...I can't wait for your ultrasound!!! And how is your morning sickness? With a beta like that, I would be able to move
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maidentomother
April 4th, 2015, 08:24 AM
Taytum, I have sore nips and tender breast which normally I only get on Vitex, and very late on 5DPO/very early on 6DPO I had brief but intense sharp cramps in my uterus. Milder uterine cramping on and off since then. Usually cramping means I'm out, but the brief sharp cramps are new. So as you can see I'm reading into everything!
I did actually test with a Sure Predict yesterday to get a baseline, check for evaps. Stark white. But I will try again today at 7DPO.
Since looking more at your chart Taytum I wonder if you did O on CD39...thrn I'd be just a day behind you.
smarston, atomic says to only take antihistamines right before BD.
XXforhubby
April 4th, 2015, 09:35 AM
Thanks XX. Very interested to find out when I O. Poor DH thinks we're in the 2ww now...I can't wait for your ultrasound!!! And how is your morning sickness? With a beta like that, I would be able to move
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Morning sickness was off and on and mild, now it is much stronger and eating doesn't help :/.
I hope you O soon! Think of it this way, you're cooking an extra ripe egg! FX for you!
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XXforhubby
April 4th, 2015, 09:41 AM
TaytumJ - I think you Oed on CD39. FX for you!!!
Maiden- that may be too early to test. I have good feelings about this cycle! You're chart is crazy looking, but I think you're super low pre-o temps made for a great egg!
[emoji120]for you ladies!
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TaytumJ
April 4th, 2015, 10:26 AM
Tm - I hope the trigger shot is enough for you as well! I'll be following along with you for sure. Just have faith that once that egg pops your body knows what to do with it. [emoji6] and your sway sounds so much better than mine - I do weights 3x a week when I can and snack, but haven't been diligent on gaining the weight for the sway. So I'd say you've got a good thing going!
XX - how far along are you now? I took a break from GD not to drive myself crazy and I hate that I missed some of the things you guys are going through. So excited for you though!
Maiden - those are promising symptoms though! I remember my nipples were so sore before the chemical. FX for you for sure; can't wait to follow along!
Good luck to everyone else getting ready to O!
I had another dip today. [emoji15] never know what to think any more. I agree - I think CD39 was the magic day as well. Last night lots of lower back pain, but no AF yet either. Will keep on keeping on! I think since I've basically just tried to keep up with 2-3 day BD and knowing if nothing come May we'll look at other options I'm just doing what I can right now. Maybe just a big implantation dip [emoji6] haha #wishfulthinking
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maidentomother
April 4th, 2015, 10:57 AM
Yeah for sure 7DPO is very if not too early to test. BFN again today. But since I have 20 of these SP tests and it's my last cycle for a while I figure what the hell. I know I probably won't get an early BFP even if I am pregnant bc of my hypermetabolism.1 I wouldn't have started testing quite so early but that weird cramping 2 days ago seemed like it could maybe be implantation plus my other symptoms.
I have some cavities I really need filled...one has been super sensitive since yesterday. I can read pregnancy into ANYTHING! I'm hungry and food tastes good, hey maybe it's a sign. Truly I become a crazy persom after O.
Taytum, considering the recent low temps it's possible you are just gearing up to O now. I'd BD and OPK just in case.
smarston3
April 4th, 2015, 11:08 AM
Oh maiden!! I hope this is it for you!
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seabeewife
April 4th, 2015, 12:24 PM
I'm going nuts having to wait to test here.. i had yellow cm when i wiped this morning and i never get that.. two more days to test!
XXforhubby
April 4th, 2015, 12:26 PM
According to my O dates, I'm either 5 weeks 2 days or 5 weeks 5 days. The OB thinks I'm further along, or am having more than one, because of my high Beta HCG levels. I have a scan on Wednesday. I think I am having just one and my dates are spot on. DS1 and DS2 were always measuring two weeks ahead and my OB said I just have a "ripe" womb. Whatever that means!
I'm hoping to see you ladies get your BFPs soon! Don't give up and keep trying! Lord knows it is hard, but I believe it will happen for you! If it can happen for me (I needed a miracle with my dismal numbers!) it WILL happen for all of you [emoji8]!
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smarston3
April 4th, 2015, 12:35 PM
I'm going nuts having to wait to test here.. i had yellow cm when i wiped this morning and i never get that.. two more days to test!
Oh my goodness, I was just going to ask if you've tested again. What day are you now?
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seabeewife
April 4th, 2015, 01:49 PM
9 dpo today!
maidentomother
April 4th, 2015, 02:06 PM
How are you not testing seabee?
TaytumJ
April 4th, 2015, 02:14 PM
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/04/e1abeacc72fa06b7a70c9669d52e5f3a.jpg
Maiden - are you psychic?? [emoji15] that's the first positive I've had!
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XXforhubby
April 4th, 2015, 02:17 PM
Yay TaytumJ! Now go get busy [emoji6]! Here is my rambunctious and snugly with mama blue baby dust! DH is worried I still have some!
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smarston3
April 4th, 2015, 02:19 PM
Yay Taytum-I have never gotten a positive like that! Go enjoy!
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Junie
April 4th, 2015, 02:19 PM
Taytum- Get to BDing :D :D
Maiden- I LOVE your chart. I so hope this is it for you!!
AFM- I'm almost at CD1. I had to change the past two days to spotting as my flow never started but I think tonight is the night. So everything crossed for CD1, a short wait for O, and a BFP!!!!
XXforhubby
April 4th, 2015, 02:29 PM
Maiden- your chart looks amazing! So different from all the others! I'm getting excited for you! I think you should test at 9DPO. I know it is early, but with your short LP, I would be tempted! I have good feelings about this..... [emoji8]!
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maidentomother
April 4th, 2015, 02:56 PM
Taytum yay now BD at least 3 times in the next 24 hours! I may be a little psychic but in this case I think my charting experience is responsible. ;)
Junie, thanks! Wishing your dream comes true this next cycle.
XX, I've actually been testing since yesterday with SurePredict 10mius. Nothing so far but no evaps either.
Junie
April 4th, 2015, 04:59 PM
Probably ridiculous but I just ordered a light therapy box as studies have shown that doing a bright light treatment before O might shorten your cycles. I'm grasping at straws but it can't hurt my sway and I can't handle waiting 6 weeks just to get AF again. It will arrive on Wed and I hope it helps.
Maiden- I'm sure you'll be seeing two lines in a day or two!!!
maidentomother
April 4th, 2015, 05:35 PM
I hope you're right! Btw I've used several different light boxes extensively for my SAD but unfortunately they never brought O forward for me (nothing OTC that I've tried does :( ). But your cycles are significantly longer so maybe they'll help you. Can you not get clomid?
TaytumJ
April 4th, 2015, 09:48 PM
I'll give the BD 3x a shot...got a BD in tonight, tomorrow morning and hopefully tomorrow night! Trying not to get too excited; I'd hate for this to be a false surge. But will cover my bases regardless!
Junie: if the light box works let me know! I'd do anything to shorten my cycles as well! Hopefully O comes soon for you and this cycle we're all April "showered" with BFPs! [emoji4]
I agree, Maiden, this cycle looks so different from any past ones. I really, really, really hope this is the one!
XX - can't wait to find out what you're having as well! I know still a little time out, but so exciting following you on this journey!
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Junie
April 5th, 2015, 01:23 AM
Taytum- I hope you won't need it! I was looking at long cycle positive charts on FF and that gave me hope! I've got everything crossed for you, you patient lady. Plus at least you know in May you'll be able to go forward with some help if it comes to that.
Maiden- my cycles aren't long enough and I'm sure he would say it takes awhile for the body to regulate after miscarriage. If this coming cycle is longer instead of shorter I'll consider it though. Can't wait to see your temp today!
Junie
April 5th, 2015, 06:43 AM
OK Maiden and ladies do you have any ideas what could be going on with me? No bleeding today, not even spotting, no CM, cervix not in SHOW, OPKs from the last days look like this
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Back pains and the like as though AF should be coming, and BFNs on ICs. This cycle is really going to drive me crazy!
Link to chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1fff8e)
Junie
April 5th, 2015, 06:56 AM
Maiden- That looks like a gorgeous implantation dip to me!
maidentomother
April 5th, 2015, 07:09 AM
I know a lot of ladies get LH surges right before AF. It's also possible to O with no fertile signs whatsoever especially in long cycles so I'd attempt just in case.
Today I temped earlier than usual (and yesterday I temped really late, so both temps are likely a little off) but even so these fluctuations are driving me crazy. Fluctuations are normal fpr me in the LP but not like this! Also I've been wearing a wool sweater to bed this past week but I was so hot last night I took it off and just slept in a t shirt.
tm29
April 5th, 2015, 07:12 AM
Junie I am so sympathetic - a loss really does scramble things up doesn't it? I hope the other ladies know how to advise you.
Tatum - fantastic! I really hope this is IT for you. Good luck with the bd marathon! ;)
Junie
April 5th, 2015, 07:13 AM
Maiden- I think I will attempt- if anything sometimes that seems to bring on AF if she is right about to come. It is hard on the one hand I want this cycle to be over but on the other hand I can't help but grasp at any hope that I still have "a chance" this cycle. I just love your chart. I really think you will get a BFP tomorrow :) :) :)
Junie
April 5th, 2015, 07:15 AM
Thanks tm29- I promise I am normally really level-headed and easy going but there is something about TTC that does make me a bit crazy. I just can't help but want to analyze everything and "figure it all out" when really I just need to be patient!
tm29
April 5th, 2015, 07:16 AM
Maiden how do you interpret the heat last night? Hormonal change of some kind and poss pregnancy symptom?
TaytumJ
April 5th, 2015, 08:27 AM
I just keep waiting for that BFP Maiden!
Junie: seriously TTC turns you into a whole new person! I feel like this winter someone should have checked me into the looney bin, but with spring now and the nice weather and almost end of school I have my mind off it a little more. Trying to stay busy! And I hate that about docs...so hard to be patient on something like TTC!
Tm: how are things going your way?
Another temp dip today! Hopefully this is good!
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XXforhubby
April 5th, 2015, 08:46 AM
Junie- either AF is about to show or you didn't O earlier and are getting ready to now. FX for you honey! I hate how our bodies do crazy things when we pay attention to them!
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XXforhubby
April 5th, 2015, 08:47 AM
Maiden- I LOVE your chart! I think you're pregnant [emoji4]!
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XXforhubby
April 5th, 2015, 08:52 AM
FX for you ladies!
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sc1411
April 5th, 2015, 09:16 AM
I think I have to join in at this point, was a silent lurker for a little while and WOW a lot of exciting news!
Congratulations to all who got their BFP!
Maiden, I really really hope it is your month!
T29, nice to see you here. Don't be upset about the weight and the muscles, I feel the same way not fitting to any clothes, we just have to get over it.
This month looks like a month of a weird charts, LOL!
Mine was all over the place. I don't temp, just use several brands opks at the same time and they all were at least one day different.
Anyway, we bd every other day until I got a nice pos at wondfos on Friday and were able to squeeze 3 attempts in 24 hours:)
But, I don't feel any ovulation pains or any other symptoms, the only symptom is that I don't have CM anymore.
Do you ladies think one more attempt tonight will be good idea just to be on the safer side?
Is there any other ways to say that you've ovulated, except tempting? My opk was positive for one day if it means anything:)
XXforhubby
April 5th, 2015, 09:28 AM
sc1411, I would keep BDing every other day until you are passed the latest CD you typically O. That's what I did when conceiving both of my boys. My CM then was really reliable and would always dry up after O occurred. When swaying for a DD for DH, my CM was a useless tool for me!
FX for you and here is some of my rambunctious and snugly with mama blue baby dust!
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If I have any left, DH will be pissed [emoji6]! All of you boy swayers have a special place in my heart! I love being a boy mom and hope and [emoji120]you get to experience how awesome it is!!
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sc1411
April 5th, 2015, 09:32 AM
XX, thank you for your kind words and support!
Did you always have O pains?
TaytumJ
April 5th, 2015, 11:14 AM
Thanks so much for the blue dust XX! [emoji170][emoji92]did you always dry up right after O? I feel like when I woke up to temp I felt really slippery, but now I feel dry. Is it possible i temped before O? This journey is straight crazy!
Hopefully we got enough bd in just in case. I'll try to make sure we get another one tonight but DH is definitely not a marathon kind of guy! [emoji6]
Edit: this is what Wondfo looks like today with SMU http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/05/f40c07b3663509850b51b7549b3d8325.jpg
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maidentomother
April 5th, 2015, 11:55 AM
sc1411, no way to know you've Oed without temping. I'd definitely keep BDing if you can just in case.
tm, I'm often hot during my LP so that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Still no hint of anything on my SP tests or other cheapies at 8DPO today.
I think it's very possible I'm not pregnant but going off the diet and eating so much more fat, nutrients and meat recently is just boosting my hormone levels & quickly. I've always been super sensitive to hormonal changes.
Thinking of going out for dinner tonight...but not sure if restaurants are open here on Easter?
Junie
April 5th, 2015, 11:59 AM
Maiden- most restaurants here in Hamburg are open, in a small town maybe not...
Taytum- You did good! Don't worry I got both boys with EOD timing :)
XXforhubby
April 5th, 2015, 12:00 PM
I don't remember O pains before having both boys, but my CM was extremely reliable for pinpointing O with both boys, swaying girl not so much. I always dried up to sticky or creamy right after O and only watery during the secondary estrogen sometimes.
I think you're pregnant Maiden! I'm not giving up hope [emoji6]!
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TaytumJ
April 5th, 2015, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the reassurance ladies! Best thing we can do now is just try to BD again tonight and hope for a temp change tomorrow!
I agree with XX, Maiden! At only 8dpo it's still early and I am still holding out you're getting a BFP soon!
I still to always feel cramping/pains throughout cycle so the best advice I had came from Maiden - don't even rely on the pain. That was the moment when I stopped worrying about it! [emoji4]
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True Blue
April 5th, 2015, 02:05 PM
Good Luck to everyone & Maiden I'm in total agreement with the ladies above :fx: :pray:
It just dawned on me I will be I the 2WW next month :D
True Blue
April 5th, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sc1411 definitely go with one more attempt tonight & keep up EOD just to be sure :)
Good Luck :)
sc1411
April 5th, 2015, 03:12 PM
Thanks ladies! 'if this cycle will not work out I will temp for sure.
We had one more attempt, now DH is hiding in the corner:hide:
True, what is EOD?
True Blue
April 5th, 2015, 03:32 PM
Lol sc1411 @ :hide:
EOD every other day :)
smarston3
April 5th, 2015, 09:00 PM
Sc-good luck catching the egg!!
TayTum-blue dust to you!
Ok gals, we BD on Friday night. I've had EWCM yesterday and today. Had an almost positive on a FR ovulation stick at noon and just got a +OPK on an IC...would you girls BD tomorrow (Monday) 3 days since last BD. Or hold out until Tuesday (4 days). My concern is last month, I Oed on Monday and BD on Monday and didn't get pregnant. So, I'm afraid waiting until Tuesday will be too late. Yet, I don't want to undermind my entire sway by BDing too early. Any thoughts? Should we BD on Tuesday morning and "split the difference"? Or is that too risky?
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HealthyGirl
April 5th, 2015, 09:19 PM
Oh god . Test again tonight and 2-3 times tomorrow and based on the opk result decide whether bd on Tuesday would be late or not.
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mommymachine
April 5th, 2015, 09:24 PM
I think I personally would wait until Tuesday night to BD so it is a true 4 days. But it is a really tough call.
smarston3
April 5th, 2015, 09:37 PM
Thanks girls, kinda wish that I didn't test..just stuck to the plan. Augh!
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XXforhubby
April 5th, 2015, 11:46 PM
Times like these, flip a coin and go with it!i did that this cycle and got my BFP! Bding at positive opk wasn't working and Bding every four days wasn't working. I was nervous about going every three days, even though Atomic had mentioned it cycles ago. Tossed a coin, and we went for Bding every three days! I didn't look back! I'm glad I went for it, because I couldn't get a positive opk this cycle! I kept temping to confirm O, and I was going to ditch temping too!
Point of all this is flip a coin if you can't decide and stick with it! It helps the stress and you get an immediate answer, plus you can blame the coin if it doesn't work [emoji6]! Lol!
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Junie
April 6th, 2015, 01:34 AM
smarston3- I would BD today. I think it can be so hard to know when your body is actually ovulating and I wouldn't want to miss out on a chance this cycle. Maybe compromise by BDing in the afternoon or evening. If you take an OPK this morning and it is lighter I would BD right away. Every 4 isn't worth it if your timing is so off that you can't get pregnant.
Ugh. OPK dark and definitely positive again today. Last night I had terrible cramps but no AF. I'm wondering if the high dosage of cortisone steroids is messing things up more than I thought it would. Well we BD last night so at least I don't have to worry about that for a few days and hopefully something happens with my temps to make everything more clear soon!
maidentomother
April 6th, 2015, 07:26 AM
smarston, I would BD tomorrow. I'm actually the one who came up with the every 3 days idea and it's been working well so far.
I woke up to spotting, severe AF cramps and another temp drop. I just hope AF comes tomorrow not today bc I really can't handle an 8 day LP. At this point I'm convinced I'm not meant to have children with DF, and maybe that's a blessing in disguise. Wish me luck finding someone else!
TaytumJ
April 6th, 2015, 08:29 AM
Smarston - good luck! I don't have any advice BDing for a girl, but I agree with XX, I use a coin to make almost all of my tough decisions! Usually if I do that, I know which way I want it to land ahead of time. [emoji6]
Junie - good luck! Hopefully today your temps are a lot clearer! I wish things were more predictable; that would help with swaying as well!
Maiden - ugh!! This hurt my heart to wake up and read this. Even after such a great chart. I agree through - from what we know about DF, this may be a sign that you were meant to look elsewhere. Are you taking a break this next cycle? I'll be thinking about you, take care of yourself today, and do something for you!
Got another BD in last night with a clearly negative OPK around 6:30 last night. Didn't have a great, convincing temp spike today though. We probably won't be able to BD again until tomorrow, but I hope temps keep going up!
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XXforhubby
April 6th, 2015, 08:33 AM
Oh Maiden! I'm hoping AF stay away! I agree with you- I don't think DF is good for you. I've been wondering, since he stresses you out so much and has emotional outbursts if that is preventing a BFP. I know I should have gotten knocked up a few times with past BF's, but I didn't because the relationship was so destructive/dysfunctional that my body just couldn't perform normally. Although I never TTCed with any of them, I just had close calls or $h!t I forgot the pill moments!
I wish you luck finding someone else....or a surprise BFP this cycle [emoji8]!
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Grace
April 6th, 2015, 09:03 AM
Maiden- sorry to read this. Take care of yourself xxx
I've decided to take your advice and BD every three days this cycle, after trying for several months with no luck (other than one mc). My cm has decreased so much, seems impossible for any swimmers to survive in there more than a day or two. I think I o'd last night or today, and we BD yesterday. We'll wait and see how it goes.
Good luck everyone !
maidentomother
April 6th, 2015, 09:39 AM
Thanks Taytum. I really hope you O soon. I will be on TTC break until next December. Hopefully I can find a new donor by then.
XX, I don't think my issues with DF are inhibiting conception. First of all it's not THAT bad (and nothing compared to my pain issues, being bed bound etc) and secondly I don't believe fertility is that sensitive to stress. If it were, we'd never have survived as a species. The first time I conceived, at age 20, I was in a really bad place mentally, in a friends with benefits relationship but the guy wanted/thought we were a real couple...he was a nice guy and fun but I was just using him for sex. I definitely didn't want to have his baby! Then I kept getting pregnant with my late DH despite an overfull coarseload (I switched from English to Chem & Bio double majors in my junior year!), and always during my SAD time of year (March), during finals week, while both of us were often using drugs and we lived loan check to loan check. Yeah I was young and we did have a very stable relationship but if I could conceive repeatedly, on birth control, despite all that...I really think the problem is DF's sperm. He has severe hypothyroidism which goes for months untreated bc he's too anxious to go get more meds and he binge drinks.
Grace, I think going to every 3 days is a great idea. I hope it does the trick for you.
TaytumJ
April 6th, 2015, 10:17 AM
I agree, Maiden. It's not you - it's him. I feel like your timing has been great and things look so promising. Which, then is a good thing that things aren't connecting. Someone is looking out for you, I firmly believe that.
If you don't mind me asking, why such a long break until December? I knew you were taking a break, just didn't know it would be for so long! (You may have said all of this and I missed it on my hiatus). Will you keep temping, regardless, or give yourself a break?
smarston3
April 6th, 2015, 10:19 AM
Grace-hope you caught the egg
Maiden-I hope whatever outcome you are hoping for happens!
Just got my scan/BW from today..I have two decent follicles. Based on my labs, I started to ovulate last night. Estrogen at 500 and LH at 50. Go back on Friday to see how many I ovulated...let's hope DH's swimmers are hanging out in there waiting.
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Junie
April 6th, 2015, 10:37 AM
Smarston3- Yay for ovulating!!!
Maiden- Ugh. I'm so sad to see your chart this morning but agree that the issues seems to be his sperm. This type of stuff sucks especially after EVERYTHING you have done- amazing really on the LE diet,etc. Hopefully someone enters your life very soon who just fits and all this work and stress becomes a bad memory. Big hugs to you. I know there is still a little girl coming into your life, she is just taking a bit longer then originally planned.
Taytum- Your timing is great, if your temps keep going up then I would be really happy! You don't need big temp jumps for a good BFP! I've included my chart from DS1 (green)24626 I've got everything crossed for you this cycle.
Grace- I think every three days is a great idea! I've also gone from having loads of CM to never having any and that must effect how long the sperm survives. Hopefully every three days is just what you need and you get a BFP this cycle!!
I think I might have had severe O pains, perhaps due to the progesterone? The pains are almost gone now and the only thing I think they could be are "mittelschmerz". It isn't something I normally get but it could fit. I've read up as much as I can and basically the drugs I'm on can do really crazy things to your cycle and pushing O back would fit. I guess I'll know based on my temps in the coming days. It could be that I can't O until I'm off the drugs but that won't be until Friday. So I'm in a strange limbo now but not as stressed as I was a few days ago.
XXforhubby
April 6th, 2015, 11:20 AM
FX and GL ladies! I'll be stalking this thread for updates [emoji8]!
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XXforhubby
April 6th, 2015, 11:54 AM
Maiden- I stumbled upon this and thought of you! The article is a few years old, but I found it interesting!
http://m.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-827123.html#spRedirectedFrom=www&referrrer=https://www.google.com/
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seabeewife
April 6th, 2015, 11:57 AM
I've been crying all morning. I woke up today to a 97.9 temp and my usual spotting 4 days before AF shows. I just ordered progesterone cream because I'm about positive I have a progesterone deficiency. I've never had issues with fertility so this is just crushing me.
XXforhubby
April 6th, 2015, 12:53 PM
Oh honey! I'm so, so sorry [emoji20]. I would try and talk to your doctor first, before ordering anything online. I think going that route and getting an actual script would be the best way to go. Sometimes those creams online are not regulated, and I would hate to see you have more problems come from this.
Hang in there sweetie! Have a cheat day (yes a whole cheat day!) and be kind to yourself. Hugs [emoji8]!
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tarasue
April 6th, 2015, 01:08 PM
It's technically April where I am so here goes! I'm 3, almost 4DPO my 9th cycle TTC and over a year swaying pink. If I'm not pregnant I will be taking a break ftom swaying & TTC, likely until December, though I may try one cycle in June/July if the timing works out. I've gone off the LE diet though I will refrain from snacking until 12DPO.
I was planning on not testing early, just waiting for AF, as I find the latter much less disappointing than days of stark white BFNs cycle after cycle. BUT I just got a bunch of FRERs and 10miu Sure Predict HPTs that a friend brought me from the US, so now I'm tempted to test early! I tested starting 6-8DPO for my first 6 cycles TTC but only once did I test with a FRER, all other times I tested with crappy insensitive tests. I also don't get early BFPs, basically all types of urine tests don't work well for me. So should I use some tests? I have 8 FRERs and 20 SPs. I was supposed to get OSOMs, too but they didn't come in time.
I got my Bfp at 8-9 dpo with the sure predict tests. Fx that this is your month maiden!!!
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TaytumJ
April 6th, 2015, 01:29 PM
Seabeewife- I agree with XX, if you've been temping you should be able to go to doc and show them hard evidence that you've got a short LP. They seem more willing to try progesterone cream before actual meds like Clomid and the like. Praying for you - I know how frustrating it is. [emoji17]
Junie: thanks for the reassurance! That looks like a longer cycle too so THAT also gives me hope - seems when I google "long cycle BFP" I get a of of encouragement...all from people with DD! [emoji4] which would still be fine, but I'm still holding out for a happy, healthy DS!
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seabeewife
April 6th, 2015, 02:26 PM
My doctor is awful. I brought this problem to her before DH deployed and she "supposedly" checked my hormones and said I was fine. Military issued doctors are the worst. I already was diagnosed with vitamin d deficiency so she contributes it all to that and my past of depression.
XXforhubby
April 6th, 2015, 02:43 PM
Oh that's just dreadful! There is nothing worse than incompetent doctors. Then I would post in the general swaying forums and in the infertility forum (the one where the 2ww one is) and ask Atomic and NBP where to get some. They may be able to point you in the right direction. I would just hate for you to get a hold of some sham product and it either not work or cause more problems.
I'm Xing everything and [emoji120]for you!
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seabeewife
April 6th, 2015, 02:55 PM
I'll have to ask. I found a couple on amazon, they are all natural with amazing reviews. Thinking I'm going to add the b6 and red raspberry (I believe that's what I read) to my sway this time. I was sure this was my month, this LE diet and all the other sway factors are exhausting me.
atomic sagebrush
April 6th, 2015, 03:31 PM
I've been crying all morning. I woke up today to a 97.9 temp and my usual spotting 4 days before AF shows. I just ordered progesterone cream because I'm about positive I have a progesterone deficiency. I've never had issues with fertility so this is just crushing me.
The over the counter progesterone creams do not have enough progesterone to sustain a pregnancy. Many times the issue is not progesterone, but it is a lack of estrogen that causes short LP. Your body is supposed to release a burst of estrogen at about 7 DPO that helps maintain the lining for a few more days before the lining breaks down.
Are you saying that your LP is 10 days long or shorter than that?? You should be able to get pregnant with a 10 day LP. I would personally not have you add B6 because I believe that sways blue and I feel like it creates more problems than it solves for hte majority of gals. RRLT may help a bit (if this is an estrogen issue and not a progesterone one) but I would only do it daily from AF-O then every other day in the LP
Ladies, I cannot keep up on support threads. There is just too much info in them. When you're struggling like this you have to start a post in the forums so I can help. I can't help you with q's that I never know are going on. :)
maidentomother
April 6th, 2015, 03:46 PM
Taytum, the long break is for a few reasons. First off I can't risk giving birth between late Dec and late March bc I suffer from severe SAD (seasonal affective disorder) and would be a high risk for PPD. Then there is the fact that I've been swaying since November 2013 so I really need a substantial break, but I'll want to have 12w of swaying again under my belt before TTC, that means going back on the diet in September. Also I really, really want to avoid certain astrological signs (Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo) so basically I can only have a fall baby. I will maybe consider trying in late June if the timing aligns for an April 1st DD as I'd love an Aries. In that case I won't sway other than one attempt + clomid/femara (I have an appt tomorrow with an RE to discuss the results of the bloodwork taken last month, and she already commented on my short LP so I'm hopeful I'll get a script).
XX, I know all about that guy...very nice man but not up to my qualifications alas!
seabee, I'm so sorry about the spotting. But just so you know, spotting is common and can be perfectly normal. It does NOT necessarily mean you have low P. I urge you not to waste your money on P cream. It is barely absorbed through the skin so too ineffective to actually affect blood P.
seabeewife
April 6th, 2015, 04:07 PM
I noticed light spotting at 9dpo when I checked my cervix. I was hoping it was implantation because it was so little. But when I got a bfn this morning with more spotting I knew it was over. Seems like my lp keeps getting shorter every month since getting off bc. A year ago.
TaytumJ
April 6th, 2015, 10:15 PM
That all makes a lot of sense, Maiden. I completely get it: it sounds like you know yourself really well and the mental well-being for yourself. You deserve a break, enjoy the hell out of it! Let us know how the doctor appointment goes tomorrow as well. And I think you should aim for the Aries DD, we're pretty awesome. [emoji6]
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Sunbuny
April 7th, 2015, 12:31 AM
My sister is an Aries and she sales through life. Cool, calm and friendly [emoji2]
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TaytumJ
April 7th, 2015, 06:57 AM
Why do my hopes get up with a good upward motion temp only to be struck down again by a lower temp the next day? [emoji17][emoji30]
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Junie
April 7th, 2015, 07:01 AM
I'm so sorry seabeewife. TTC can be so hard.
Junie
April 7th, 2015, 07:09 AM
Taytum- I think you are one of the people who will really benefit from just a short dose of meds to help your body click back into "normal" and then you will get pregnant (and with a boy!) right away. Your cycles are so long and I would be so frustrated in your position. I'm sorry :( But I'm so glad you have a Dr's appt soon and I know it will all work out.
sageviolet
April 7th, 2015, 08:13 AM
Catching up after being away for Easter...
taytum - Atomic's articles say wheatgrass is good for a boy sway. If you look at the stats sheet, it's like 70% or more success.
Junie - Do you sleep in the dark? There's a technique where you sleep in total darkness then if desired do a dim nightlight around o to stimulate the full moon. I think it's called lunaception? I've been sleeping in the dark for many years now, I don't bother with a moon light. And if you're wondering how that works with a baby/toddler, I have a red light I wear on my head for when I have to care for her at night. Red doesn't ruin your night vision or affect your hormones.
Maiden - *hugs* So are you taking a break until Dec.? Plenty of time to find a better donor! I wish you all the best and believe you will be a mother when the time is right <3
seabee - *hugs* I agree with Atomic! Try the rrlt. You'll be fine. I know a lady who had a short lp when ttc while nursing, and it was gradually (slowly) getting longer, but then after a 9 day lp cycle, the next one she was preg and carried to term! You've just got to get over the hump so that bean can implant.
My update - FF finally gave me crosshairs on Sat. I had some ewcm yesterday, as I typically do around the second estrogen surge. I woke up very early this morning with tummy pressures and a very sore chest. Could it be implantation or is it just progesterone symptoms again? My temp was unusually high this morning, but it could be because I was awake early and rolling around. I'm 9dpo today. I'm going to see what my temps do the rest of the week. Af is expected on Sat. I might test Fri. if the temps look good.
seabeewife
April 7th, 2015, 10:20 AM
This morning my temp went up to 98.5 from a low 97.9 yesterday. I took my tampon out this morning because DH and I BD and there was enough blood after to make me think I was getting AF in the morning. But there was nothing on the tampon? My body is probably playing tricks on me.
smarston3
April 7th, 2015, 11:25 AM
This morning my temp went up to 98.5 from a low 97.9 yesterday. I took my tampon out this morning because DH and I BD and there was enough blood after to make me think I was getting AF in the morning. But there was nothing on the tampon? My body is probably playing tricks on me.
Sigh..nothing worse then not knowing what's going on. AF needs to start so you can move to the next cycle or BFP!!
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XXforhubby
April 7th, 2015, 11:30 AM
This morning my temp went up to 98.5 from a low 97.9 yesterday. I took my tampon out this morning because DH and I BD and there was enough blood after to make me think I was getting AF in the morning. But there was nothing on the tampon? My body is probably playing tricks on me.
Implantation bleeding?! I'm Xing everything for you!!!
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seabeewife
April 7th, 2015, 11:41 AM
My temp has never been this high since I started charting. So I still have a slight bit of hope. I know it's common to have spotting and still be pregnant.
sc1411
April 7th, 2015, 01:22 PM
Maiden, I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. Enjoy your break and keep us posted.
Seabee, let's hope it is not done yet:)
Sage, I would have tested twice already 9dpo:)
TaytumJ
April 7th, 2015, 05:14 PM
Sage: I may have to look into the wheatgrass. At this point in time, I'm kind of over trying to fix it myself. I got off the pill in October and this has been reoccurring every month since - body prepares to O, then nothing. I will probably need to go to the doctor, it's just hard to get there as a teacher. I'd rather just wait until summer when I can go whenever and not worry about it, but it is just frustrating to get my hopes up, only for nothing to happen. :( Everything crossed though you caught that eggie - timing looks great too!
seabee: I hope that's a good sign - especially the high temp today! FX for you!
HealthyGirl
April 7th, 2015, 05:35 PM
What's people's take on BD every 3 days versus every 4 days plus additional attempt at pos opk?
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essnce629
April 7th, 2015, 08:14 PM
Fingers crossed for you Seabee! Sounds promising!
XXforhubby
April 7th, 2015, 08:18 PM
I personally chose BDing every 3 days because BDing at positive opk and BDing at every 4 days wasn't working for me.
They can essentially be the same thing depending on when you ovulate.
FX for you!!
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Junie
April 7th, 2015, 09:33 PM
Seabee- That sounds really good!!!
Hbuhs
April 7th, 2015, 11:10 PM
Hi ladies, I've been following the thread as I'm in the 2ww with you! My heart and hopes are with you all and I'm rooting for you. I've read through all your messages and I wish I had more experience or advice, but know that I'm hoping the best for everyone and thinking postive thoughts for all! :)
I am 2DPO- took femera cd3-7, monitored cd9 and had a trigger shot on cd11 and was expected to therefore ovulate on cd13. I'm a little nervous as I was doing BD every four days plus the day of trigger (or what would have been positive OPK). Now I'm doubting myself, because we BD both cd11(trigger)&cd12(four days after first attempt) as I was fairly fixated on the schedule. I really hope I didn't fudge up this cycle. I've been doing "ok" with LE, I have been sick (I have quite bad IBS) plus I have an untreated mild recurring UTI(waiting to go on antibiotics this week to avoid blue sway). Also I am on metformin for swaying purposes only. Doing a number of other little things that may help ie: drinking loads of aspartame, hubby took up smoking before attempts, etc. I guess I'm just nervous.. Any words of wisdom?
Junie
April 8th, 2015, 03:44 AM
Hi Hbuhs!! Are you temping? Do you know when you Od? If you didn't O until CD 14 I wouldn't worry too much about the CD11 attempt. I hope you have a BFP and a girl growing inside of you at the end of this cycle!
Hbuhs
April 8th, 2015, 09:39 AM
Thanks Junie! I hope you get your girl very soon too! Hope you've been feeling better.
I haven't ever temped. I thought with the monitoring and trigger shot it kind of did that aspect of it for me. My RE did assume that I would ovulate cd13-14. I feel like I may be pregnant, could be the UTI talking though.
But I figure that I probably am since I was a bit apprehensive about ttc this month- good old Murphy's law. I'd be due at Christmas plus we are to go to Jamaica for my DH best friends wedding (he's the best man). So, if I am preg I guess I will have a busy Christmas and be staying home with two boys plus a new baby (HOPEFULLY GIRL!) 2-3 weeks postpartum.
HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 09:45 AM
Good luck hbuhs looks like you have a good sway.
So you did you bd cd 9,11,12? And is this 2nd month of TTC for you?
The whole bd every 4 days and getting fixated on the schedule can be exhausting so I can feel your pain and see why you had the attempts that you had.
Fx for you! I hope you get your princess.
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Hbuhs
April 8th, 2015, 11:56 AM
Thanks healthygirl! How are things going with you? Did you end up going with Clomid or Femera to sway?
We BD cd7, 11 & 12. I feel like swaying has turned me into a crazy person! Lol
HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 12:27 PM
I didn't do clomid. I chickened out. We are in our 3rd cycle of TTC. We did one attempt feb and March and it resulted in a bfn.
I'm using a clear blue monitor this cycle to pinpoint ovulation better and will probably baby dance twice and see how it goes.
I totally know what you mean.
I have become Obsessed with my cycle a bit and it's driving me a little nuts. I think it's mainly bc I wasn't able to get pregnant on the last two cycles despite of having timing correct.
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Hbuhs
April 8th, 2015, 12:48 PM
I'm with you on that. This is our second month ttc and I was pretty shocked. I thought I had the perfect sway, including timing and all. Then bfn!! I've never had an issue getting pregnant before so it's just a bit of a change. I have loosened up a bit this month, that being said my LE diet isnt as on point and I did add an extra attempt (as suggested by atomic) to increase odds of pregnancy. This I do know isn't as strong of a sway as my month before so then it leads me to believe that I'll probably have another boy if I'm preg :(
HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 01:35 PM
Don't think that way. I think you have an excellent chance.
Fx for your BFP and your girl.
I've loosened up on my sway a little too. I took Zyrtec and did rephresh and sylk last month and won't be doing them this cycle. I have lost 7 lbs( I'm the lightest I've been since high school) and last couple of weeks I'm eater a lot better.
Atomic is wanting me to drop the zyrtec and rephresh and sylk and do one attempt again but not sure mentally if I can get another bfn.
Im worried if I do get another bfn I will add in multiple attempts the following month and ruin the sway.
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eleena2014
April 8th, 2015, 01:40 PM
I've just brought some sylk from eBay. I had a free sample last month and I really liked it anyway for fun purposes.lol. so I will probably carry on using it.this month i will be testing on opks more so I will hopefully know exactly when I ovulated. Regarding the diet. I am doing a loose Le diet but Def not fully vegetarian. Apart from the odd big mac I haven't had beef for 3 months. I have lost approx 9 lb and I have been stuck at the weight I am for a few weeks.
HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 01:48 PM
Fx for you Eleena!
I'm scared to do the stuff I used last cycle.
I haven't had any beef either in the past 3 months. I'm mainly vegetarian with a few cheats here and there.
We will be attempting in the next couple of days [emoji2]
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eleena2014
April 8th, 2015, 01:48 PM
Fx for you too. X
XXforhubby
April 8th, 2015, 01:48 PM
Don't give up ladies! It took me 9 cycles and 8 months before getting a BFP. I believe it takes a while to conceive because the body has to readjust to the change in maternal condition. It WILL happen! Diet, exercise (if you're doing it), fiber, and 1-2 (no more than 2) attempts in the fertile window are yielding the best results!!
Hang in there!
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eleena2014
April 8th, 2015, 01:53 PM
I dropped the fibre for the past month as the one I found was quite expensive
Junie
April 8th, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sage- my H likes it pitch black but we can't get our room totally dark but we've tried our best. I love the idea of you with your red light :) My light arrived today and I'm going to try using it for an hr in the morning when I check email and the like. I live in an area that can be gray and rainy for weeks on end so I figure if anything it can help my mood. I'll try it out for a month and see what happens. Yay for cross hairs for you! 9DPO sounds perfect for implantation signs! I hope you get a BFP Friday!
Hbuhs
April 8th, 2015, 02:00 PM
Thanks so much XX!
Healthygirl, that's awesome that you've lost that much weight (I hope you're feeling ok as a result of that). That's a strong sway in itself from what I understand! What cd are you?
I lost 40lbs about 6 months ago on a high protein low carb. As soon as I started swaying I have found that my weight is staying off but not able to lose as I'm at a pleateau. I do, however, have weight left to lose. Hopefully me not losing doesn't effect me too much.
I'm with you on worrying about loosening up my sway too much if bfn. My goal is (if I'm not preg this month) to really hit it in full force for next month. Fx for a baby girl for you! If by chance we both don't end up pregnant lets keep each other really motivated to sway strong!!!
HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 02:18 PM
I'm on CD 7 according to my clear blue monitor.
Does anyone know if your first day of AF
is CD 1 or day after?
Last couple of months I have been calling first day of AF as CD 1 but my monitor wanted me to call day after AF as CD 1.
We will be attempting CD 9 am (if I can convince my husband to bd before going to work) and PM cd 12.
This way the attempts will be 3.5 days apart.
I hope we all get our BFP soon!
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Hbuhs
April 8th, 2015, 03:34 PM
My RE said that cd1 is the first (mostly full) day of spotting/bleeding. If you were to start spotting in the evening, cd1 would be the next day. Does that make sense?
smarston3
April 8th, 2015, 04:43 PM
I'm on CD 7 according to my clear blue monitor.
Does anyone know if your first day of AF
is CD 1 or day after?
Last couple of months I have been calling first day of AF as CD 1 but my monitor wanted me to call day after AF as CD 1.
We will be attempting CD 9 am (if I can convince my husband to bd before going to work) and PM cd 12.
This way the attempts will be 3.5 days apart.
I hope we all get our BFP soon!
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Sounds like a great plan!
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HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 04:58 PM
Yes it does. Thanks for letting me know.
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essnce629
April 8th, 2015, 08:26 PM
Don't give up ladies! It took me 9 cycles and 8 months before getting a BFP. I believe it takes a while to conceive because the body has to readjust to the change in maternal condition. It WILL happen! Diet, exercise (if you're doing it), fiber, and 1-2 (no more than 2) attempts in the fertile window are yielding the best results!!
Hang in there!
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Totally agree! Both my boys were "oopsies" without trying at all, but it took me 5 cycles to conceive last time and my timing was perfect every time. Unfortunately it ended in a miscarriage. I know for a fact that being on the LE diet so long (8 months) decreased my maternal condition and possibly lead to a decrease in egg quality as well since I was severely iron deficient and low in magnesium and vitamin D when I got tested after my miscarriage. I've since gone back to eating red meat and my doctor has me on extremely high dose iron daily (over 500mg). I'm back on vitamin D and magnesium too as I was feeling horrible and was exhausted constantly and getting depressed. Good luck to everyone, it does take longer when swaying girl. I feel like if I had been swaying for another boy I would have been pregnant the first cycle as my lifestyle is normally extremely boy friendly!
FWIW, I started with a kitchen sink sway with everything including Zyrtec, Vitex, and Rephresh the first 2 cycles, but then dropped all that as the stats weren't that great and they seemed to prevent pregnancy more than sway. When I did get pregnant my sway consisted of LE diet, 1 attempt, peppermint tea during AF, cinnamon, fiber, alcohol (vodka) and diet soda daily, and LR and OLE for DH. No exercise.
HealthyGirl
April 8th, 2015, 11:05 PM
Thanks for the encouragement essnce629.
Congrats on the pregnancy. Hope you get your little girl.
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seabeewife
April 9th, 2015, 10:15 AM
Well tomorrow is my test day.. assuming my temps stay up and I don't wake up to the ugly witch. I've been SO tired, I took a 3 hour nap yesterday thanks to DH watching the boys for me, then passed out a 9:30 no problem. I don't know what's going on with me! Still pretty sure my body is playing games on me.
Grace
April 9th, 2015, 10:16 AM
Good luck seabee fx !!
mommymachine
April 9th, 2015, 10:44 AM
Good luck Seabee! Your chart looks great!
XXforhubby
April 9th, 2015, 10:55 AM
I think you're pregnant Seabee! I'll be stalking this thread!!!
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True Blue
April 9th, 2015, 10:58 AM
Good Luck Seabee :)
smarston3
April 9th, 2015, 11:21 AM
Good luck!!!!
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seabeewife
April 9th, 2015, 11:21 AM
I'd be more confident about getting my bfp if I didn't have this random spotting. I've been researching it and some girls that get it before their periods ended up preggo but some didn't. I hope I am because I want my DH to be home when he/she is born. I had DS 2 when he was deployed and it was the hardest thing ever! He still gets teary-eyed when he sees pictures when he was born.
eleena2014
April 9th, 2015, 11:30 AM
Good luck x
Hbuhs
April 9th, 2015, 11:57 AM
Good luck Seebea! Fx for your BFP!
Has anyone ever taken a trigger shot? Like I said before I took it on cd11 and bd the same day plus the next as is was my every four. We ended up not bding yesterday (would have been four days since we did on Saturday) because my IBS flared up really badly last night (sorry for the tmi!) my husband usually stays as far away from me when that happens. I'm just hoping that my trigger shot didn't push my O all the way to Wednesday and I actually missed it!
TaytumJ
April 9th, 2015, 12:00 PM
Good luck! I've got everything crossed for you - your chart looks great! I hope it's a BFP for you! :)
Ugh. Now my temps are being all wacky and up/down. Seriously...when will this get easier!
Junie
April 9th, 2015, 12:08 PM
My temps don't confirm it yet but I've been reading a bit about what could cause the bleeding I had and that along with the cramping fits with a really intense ovulation perhaps due to the steroids. My temps in the coming few days will confirm I guess, nothing to do but wait and keep up with every 4 days BDing since OPKs are still dark.
Seabee- Good luck tomorrow!!!
HealthyGirl
April 9th, 2015, 01:35 PM
Good luck Junie and seebeewife
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tm29
April 9th, 2015, 04:35 PM
Hbuhs - I'm about to take a trigger shot but I thought it made you ovulate 12-36 hrs after you have it. I think it's effectively like getting a +opk the moment it's in. I've got a shot to give myself on Monday if I don't get a +opk by then. I hope it works for both of us! Tatum, I meant to update you - it looks like I should be Ok without the clomid this time, just the trigger. But we'll see. I am at breaking point after 7 months on the HE. I am a fat sad version of myself!
Good luck seabee it sounds hopeful!
Hbuhs
April 9th, 2015, 05:12 PM
Tm29, yes that's what I understood too! I didn't know a whole lot about it so was just hoping that it worked the way I 'thought it did'. Thanks for confirming!!
Fx for your BFP!
Junie
April 10th, 2015, 01:21 AM
It looks like I probably O'd! 5DPO today. Yay! I'm feeling hopeful :)
True Blue
April 10th, 2015, 03:34 AM
Timing looks great Junie :)
Good Luck :fx:
fefecooks
April 10th, 2015, 07:23 AM
9 dpo and still bfn
smarston3
April 10th, 2015, 08:01 AM
Junie-yah!! Based on my bloodwork I'm 5DPO too. Except FF gave me cross hairs on Tuesday..have to believe my bloodwork in this case
Fefe-still early! What CD are you? With my boys, I didn't get BFP's until day 26 of a 28 day cycle
Have my confirm ovulation ultrasound this morning..see if I ovulated one or two
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fefecooks
April 10th, 2015, 08:05 AM
Smarston3- CD25 of anywhere between 28-32 day cycle
Grace
April 10th, 2015, 08:40 AM
I'm also 5 DPO today. Good luck ladies !!
Junie
April 10th, 2015, 08:53 AM
Wow so many of us at 5DPO, let's hope we all get lucky!!
Fefe- I've never gotten more than the lightest squinter at 9DPO, I hope your BFP is still coming!
XXforhubby
April 10th, 2015, 09:07 AM
This is exciting ladies! Grace, Junie, and Smarston! I'll be stalking this thread for sure!
I'm getting so excited!!!
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seabeewife
April 10th, 2015, 09:55 AM
Well I'm out ladies! Temp dropped right on time. Hopefully my sway works next time, and before DH gets snipped for good. Fx for all you ladies and your bfp.
sc1411
April 10th, 2015, 10:17 AM
5 or 6 dpo also:)
sc1411
April 10th, 2015, 10:18 AM
Probably 6:)
Junie
April 10th, 2015, 10:28 AM
I'm so sorry seabeewife!!! Take care of yourself this weekend.
TaytumJ
April 10th, 2015, 12:33 PM
So sorry seabee. :( Yes, take care of yourself. Drink some wine this morning and relax.
Those of you doing trigger shots, how have you gone about getting them? Did you try Clomid first? I'm wondering when I make my appointment if I should push for one or the other. Obviously I'm not ovulating and will need some extra help somewhere, so trying to see what my options are.
sc1411
April 10th, 2015, 12:55 PM
I'm sorry Seabee, hopefully next month. TTC with swaying is extremely hard:(
seabeewife
April 10th, 2015, 01:13 PM
I'm definitely taking care of myself. Eating chocolate ice cream and sweet potato french fries for lunch. Trying not to stress but I just can't stop crying when I see anything kid/baby related. I'm a mess.
smarston3
April 10th, 2015, 01:38 PM
seebee-i'm so sorry!!! thinking about you this weekend
went for my ultrasound. looks like i ovulated two. but, then the RE tells me that i ovulated on tuesday. on monday, she told me i started to ovulate sunday night. now, i'm annoyed. I doubt our BD on friday night worked with -4 days before O. and then BD on tuesday was probably too late. we BDed on O date last month without luck. another month of reminding myself timing doesn't work. but, can't help feeling that i'm out.
absolutely have to skip next cycle. DH is away during O and i would be at the peak of my morning sickness for our disney trip in june
Junie
April 10th, 2015, 02:20 PM
Hopefully Tuesday BDing was just the right time smarston3!
Mmm sweet potato French fries sound super yummy. Hugs seabeewife.
Sunbuny
April 10th, 2015, 07:41 PM
Seebeewife.. I had a massive temp drop the day I got my BFP. I dont want to get your hopes up but it is possible.
Fx for all you other girls!
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seabeewife
April 10th, 2015, 10:59 PM
Still no AF.. cervix is high and I can't reach it, usually I can feel it before AF. But I was 2 days late late last month, sunbunny I'd be shocked if I wasn't out.
Sunbuny
April 10th, 2015, 11:07 PM
When are you due? Have you taken a test?
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Hbuhs
April 10th, 2015, 11:13 PM
Hugs to you Seabeewife!!!! Take care.
I'm also 5-6 DPO ladies!
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 12:17 AM
You have to test Seabee!!!
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 05:02 AM
Taytum - I got my trigger from a fertility Dr. He showed me how to inject myself - sounds scary but is actually really simple. He looked at the size of my eggs on the scan and said he thought I'd O on Friday/Saturday and that if I hadn't picked it up on an opk by Monday, to give myself the shot.
I have MASSIVELY complicated the process by failing to test properly yesterday. I got an error message on my Clearblue yesterday morning and then FORGOT (?!!!!!!) to test again during a very hectic day with a toddler and a work crisis. Woke up early this morning in a cold sweat realising I could actually have missed the surge. I could, couldn't I? Advice anyone? It's negative today with fmu and smu. I am completely amazed by my stupidity and the thought that I might have condemned myself to another (8th) month on the HE. I think I will now have to go to the dr Mon morning and get a scan to make sure I haven't already o'd.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Seabee - I'm so sorry. Swaying and TTC is just so miserable. I hope your treats were delicious.
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 05:32 AM
TM29- if you get negatives today and tomorrow I bet you Od and I wouldn't worry about the shot but probably would confirm with a scan on Monday. Did you get your BDing in? That is the important part :)
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 06:01 AM
Maiden - if you're there, could you advise me? Or anyone else? Im going for a blood test to see if I had my surge yesterday and missed it with my opk. If I did have it, apparently my progesterone will now be high. If my progesterone is high, will I be ok to BD x2 today and tomorrow? Or will that be completely wrong for a blue sway? I am in such a panic I can't work this out! I've asked atomic but I need to know asap so we can decide whether to BD. I don't want to do something which could replicate a pink sway pattern in any way at all!!
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 06:46 AM
Junie thank you so much for espousing I am in a panic! No we did not bd yesterday. If I would have got a +opk yesterday I need to know if we should NOT now bd in case it sways pink or anything just to bd X2 the day after +opk!!! I'm so so worried I missed my chance this month
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 07:58 AM
Not 'espousing' - I meant responding!
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 10:04 AM
Go BD right now :) :)! BD as much as you can. I would BD this morning, night (if you're up for it), and tomorrow and the day after. You don't want to end up having only 1 attempt- that sways pink!
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 10:37 AM
Junie!!! I am so relieved! I just got the results of a blood test I had this morning and it shows I have NOT o'd yet. Thank goodness I haven't missed it.
The stressful process continues...
sc1411
April 11th, 2015, 10:39 AM
Tm 29 BD as much as you can. Don't panic, just try to get as many attempts as you can:) At least that what I would do, GL!
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 11:00 AM
I'm so glad you haven't missed it! Could they tell you if it should happen soon? I would start BDing today for sure though.
eleena2014
April 11th, 2015, 12:31 PM
Right I've started using my new opks. Last month I'm sure I ovulated on cd 15 today I am on cd 10 and these are what my opks look like. Is is possible I got my positive today? http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/11/0e81cd145be5e75bbad20e8f37d35637.jpg
The top two are from today bottom two are yesterday
eleena2014
April 11th, 2015, 12:32 PM
We bd yesterday as I wasn't expecting a +opk yet. If this is my positive would Monday be too late to bd again . Ideally Monday morning would be ideal if we could fit it in
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 12:40 PM
Eleena - I am sending you huge sympathy. It is just ridiculously stressful not knowing exactly when to do what!
JUNIE, sc1411, do you know if it's possible to BD too much for blue - ie if I BD today and tomorrow and I end up using the trigger to ovulate on Monday and then have to do x2 attemppts Monday and Tuesday is that some kind of frequency pattern that would be bad for blue? Or just the more the merrier at this point?!
You see what I'm getting at?
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 12:45 PM
Eleena, that second one down could just about be positive. I see what you mean. I am not familiar with the pink swaying pattern for BD so I won't get involved in that element of the question. But I can see why you think that might be positive. Tricky that it's a new brand...
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 01:01 PM
The 2nd looks positive to me Eleena.
sc1411
April 11th, 2015, 01:06 PM
tm29,
I think 7-10 attempts is too much, at least that what I remember reading in Atomic's essays.
Hopefully someone else can support it.
sc1411
April 11th, 2015, 01:07 PM
Maybe start a thread in TTC a boy section so more people could see it and help:)
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 01:10 PM
Eleena- If that is your positive and you are trying for only 1 attempt in your fertile window then waiting until Monday is fine. It depends on how quickly you actually O after your positive.
TM29- As long as your H doesn't have sperm quality issues then I think it is fine to do every day. I think you can't have too many attempts for blue. The worry is more if you start doing every day too early and by the time O comes you are too tired to get in a few attempts. But since you know you are doing the trigger Monday at the latest that shouldn't be an issue.
To me sa/su/mo for ovulating on mo sounds perfect for blue.
Although I'm not a blue swayer so you should confirm with atomic.
HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 01:38 PM
Eleena the 2nd one is almost there but not quite.
Keep doing a couple of more tests today and tomorrow and based on what you see on the opk see if monday is too late or not.
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eleena2014
April 11th, 2015, 01:43 PM
But the last one I did looks like it's fading out. Maybe the second one down isn't completly positive because I had a full flask of coffee about an hour before?
fivebabies
April 11th, 2015, 01:47 PM
seebee~ I can sooooooooooooo relate! We have been ttc for 15 cycles now!!! I absolutely lose it everytime AF shows up or even the 2 days before because I know she's coming. Its miserable. So I am truly sorry. Have you tested recently? You last said no AF yet.....?
HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 01:53 PM
Eleena how far apart were the 2 tests? Maybe it was too diluted?
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tm29
April 11th, 2015, 01:57 PM
Eleena - if you had a full flask of coffee an hour before then that could be a positive. What Junie says sounds reassuring though - if it IS your positive then waiting until Monday is fine. And if it isn't, you will catch the real positive with the million other tests you can really enjoy doing between now and then! Ugh - it's awful. I really hope that was the positive and you catch it perfectly on Monday.
fivebabies
April 11th, 2015, 01:58 PM
Ok, so I just got caught up after being MIA the last 10 days. Lots going on! Nice to "meet" the ones I don't know yet and Hi to the oldies but goodies! ;)
So after 15 (FIFTEEN) very frustrating cycles I finally got a BFP! A dark one at that. This was my very last month for 6 months at the very least. I had mainly given up. I was barely swaying and didn't pay a ton of attention to timing but I'm pretty sure we dtd 2x on CD16 then once in the morning of CD17 and I O'd late on CD17 which is early for me. I've been down to 7-10 day LP's so Ireally thought it was never going to happen. All 5 of my kids were conceived in 1-2 months so by the time cycle 15 came around I realized it was just not meant to be. Pretty sure God is trying to show me whose boss and that He doesn't have the same agenda as me.
AF was 2 days late but I have often times caused AF to hold off because of me hoping and thinking I was pregnant. I would take a test, see a BFN and AF would show up within the hour. So that was my plan on Thursday! I knew I wasn't pregnant. Knew it. Just bought an enormous box of tampons in preparation. So I took the test at 13dpo and was blown away!!!
Anyways, sorry that was so long! Here's my 13dpo BFP! (If I can figure out how to post a pic) Never ever had one this dark before! Hope it sticks!
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Grace
April 11th, 2015, 02:02 PM
That's great fivebabies!! Congratulations!!!
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 02:04 PM
fivebabies!!!!!! That is fantastic. Well done you! I actually have tears in my eyes reading that you've been trying for 15 cycles. You really, really deserve this. Congratulations - it's a beautiful, dark I DID IT (with a little help from DH) BFP. :)
Junie
April 11th, 2015, 02:06 PM
FIVEBABIES!!!!! YAY YAY YAY! I am so thrilled for you! Great dark lines too!! You stuck it out!!!! I know you must have felt like giving up a million times but I am so proud of you for sticking with it. Now you get to have a Christmas blessing coming your way. CONGRATS!!!!! This made my day :) :)
HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 02:11 PM
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Eleena this is what cd10 looks for me ( just took it five min ago)
My monitor today was first day of high and I know I will get my first peak on on Tuesday.
If you bd Tuesday in the Am I think you will be fine and not too late.
I will be aiming for today and Tuesday as well [emoji3]
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HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 02:12 PM
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fivebabies
April 11th, 2015, 02:14 PM
Thanks Ladies!!! I'm tearing up just reading your posts! I had gotten soooooo depressed about it. Fall and especially Christmas is my most favorite time of year anyways but having a new baby then makes it simply magical for me! My last baby was born late November. :) I'm already getting waves of nausea (I stay sick until 22 weeks :( ) but I'll take it!!!! I don't even care what gender this baby is. Just happy to be pregnant again!
I'm really, really, REALLY hoping that every single one of you will be in the December Due Date club too! Fingers crossed!!!
HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 02:14 PM
Omg how odd I don't even know how that pic got attached.
I'm trying to attach my opk and don't even have that pic saved anywhere in my phone.
Lol!
So funny! Maybe it's a sign!
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HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 02:21 PM
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HealthyGirl
April 11th, 2015, 02:29 PM
So happy for you fivebabies.
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XXforhubby
April 11th, 2015, 02:32 PM
Ahhhhhhh! I'm so HAPPY for you Five babies!!!! This is the best news EVER!!!
Come join me in the December/Jan/Feb due date thread!!!
I'm pregnant too!!!!
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mommymachine
April 11th, 2015, 02:36 PM
Thanks Ladies!!! I'm tearing up just reading your posts! I had gotten soooooo depressed about it. Fall and especially Christmas is my most favorite time of year anyways but having a new baby then makes it simply magical for me! My last baby was born late November. :) I'm already getting waves of nausea (I stay sick until 22 weeks :( ) but I'll take it!!!! I don't even care what gender this baby is. Just happy to be pregnant again!
I'm really, really, REALLY hoping that every single one of you will be in the December Due Date club too! Fingers crossed!!!
Oh my goodness!!!!!! I am so incredibly happy for you! Yay!!!! Congrats!
eleena2014
April 11th, 2015, 03:12 PM
Eleena how far apart were the 2 tests? Maybe it was too diluted?
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They were about 4 hours took another about an hour ago that was the same as the top one
sc1411
April 11th, 2015, 03:20 PM
Congratulations to Fivebabies!
tm29
April 11th, 2015, 04:08 PM
Healthygirl - If that had happened to me (with the pic that mysteriously attached) I would definitely think it was an omen.
seabeewife
April 11th, 2015, 04:18 PM
Congratulations five babies!!!
Junie
April 12th, 2015, 01:00 AM
Seabeewife- I see AF showed- I'm so sorry!!
tm29
April 12th, 2015, 09:08 AM
Seabeewife - I hadn't seen that AF showed for you. I am so sorry. I hope it's next time, your body gave you so many pregnancy signs I really can't believe you're not. :(
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