September TTC Boy Chit Chat and Such Thread

[LolaInLove]

Thought I'd go ahead and kick us off in September since it's officially FALL TIME and boy time, yea???? I know TTC5 is busy with her little one.....hope you are OK, hunni!

[LolaInLove]

So, I am 7dpo today, and I feel MASSIVELY emotional and a little depressive. I cried in the shower for a bit this morning thinking it wasn't going to be my month, again. Is that weird? I know I usually get emotional, but I can't tell what is going on with me. Maybe I'm actually getting depressive because of this ttc marathon.

And I was thinking about your DD, TTC5.....hope she is ok and her boo-boo is no big deal.

[begonia]

I know, Lola ... I'm worried about 5's LO too. I hope she updates soon.

Lots of cause for concern on our lil' thread, huh? :fingers: for Daisy and Alexis with the scares. And Daisy, congrats on getting the BFP ... hope all is a-ok, please KUP!

Alexis check in after your appt today!

Tink way to just hop on the TTC train! If you do get pg September odds are you won't even be showing or need Spanx in October ... you'd just lose the ability to booze it up :bigsmile:

Flava how're you feelin' this am love? Hope it is better.

And Miss Lola ... :hugs: I am going to keep all my fingers crossed (well, when I'm not typing or driving or things that require fingers) that your depressy, super emotional state is due to surging pregnancy hormones. Because I'm an optimist like that. Even still I'm sorry you're feeling that way, no matter the reason it still sucks to be in that mood. Here's hoping something fab and unexpectedly wonderful happens to you today to lift your spirits :bighug:

[begonia]

Jen I seriously just wait for you to post so I can check your scan ticker :bigsmile: It is going to be so fun when it gets to the single digits! At least we can say now that the big scan is THIS MONTH!

September. Crazy that it's here already. I love fall but it is still so frickin' hot that it might as well be July :rolleyes:

[LolaInLove]

Thank you, B! You ladies always make me feel better. I would love for something awesome to happen today too! Actually, it would be great if something amazing happens this weekend when I poas. I may do it tomorrow morning at 8dpo, just for shits and giggles. What state do you live in that is so hot still? It is starting to cool off a tiny bit, will be only 90 here today, LOL (I'm in South Carolina).

[LolaInLove]

Oh, Flava....forgot to add that I think it's ok to ttc if it's just allergies. I really think it's ok overall, unless you are barfing and not eating and the like. Ya know, just take the robitussin/mucinex and go as planned. I hope you do feel better soon, though!

[begonia]

Lola I'm deep in the heart (heat?!?) of Texas where it'll be a brisk, fall-like 107 today. The 5 months of summer here drive me nuts! I love the people, would hate to leave my friends here, but I'd move in a heartbeat. DH and I thought about it seriously this spring but it would be so difficult to move/re-establish his business that we'll be here for the long haul.

OOOH! That's what I should get when I win the baby bet and we have a boy! A summer home in Colorado :rofl:

Yes the 8DPO bfp is rare, but not impossible! Might as well get the POAS party started for the weekend :bluecheer: C'mon BFP!

[begonia]

I can't get the quote thing to work but Flava, ITA with Lola re: sickness!

[LolaInLove]

B, I didn't know you were in TX! I was B&R in Houston, and my family is still there and in Austin. It is hotter than a mother there today, I saw that on the weather this morning. I'm telling ya, going north is MONEY. It seems to be getting hotter and hotter earlier in the year and much longer. I don't know about you guys, but I think global warming is kicking into high gear, and I am a cold lover and heat hater.

[WashingtonPromise]

Wow, so much going on!!!

Alexis: I had 1 day of red bleeding and a couple days of spotting with DD#2....it ended up that I was m/c her twin.

Daisy: I am soooo excited for you!!! I hope all is well at you appt.

Lola: I'm pulling for you. I'll be looking for your + test this weekend.


I had an old friend come over yesterday and she had big news. They had been TTCing for 5 years with no results and she had screwy cycles. They tried everything, but IVF. Well, she changed her diet by eating "green smoothies"....they are spinach, kale (all kinds of greens...all raw) and then berries and bananas....it ends up being lots of veggies and fruit servings and super good for you. Anyway....3 months of having them for breakfast and and with meals.....she skipped her period, but she thought it was "the change" because she is 42....nope BFP!!! I am so happy for them, but she is a little freaked out because they kind of got over the idea of another baby years ago and changed the swing of their life. She is a nurse for heart surgeries, and is having issues with blood. So, don't give up ladies....your dream baby is out there.

[WashingtonPromise]

Oh, iluv: We believe in celebrating all of our children and not just the first. I have not had a shower with all the kids, but I may go out with my close friends and fam for tea or something....anything special.

[Flava]

Hey ladies!!!
Oh yeah I can't wait for Lola to POAS!!!!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeally hoping for a BFP here!

Me I feel a lot better today no sore throat and my eyes don't burn so much at all BUT I have a little runny nose now. Not much and all clear but yeah Im not happy. I may just go next cycle...:sad:
And the thing is Sept. or not it's dam hot here! But it will be in Oct. too so I guess it don't matter . And it's not fall yet first day of fall is Sept. 23.
Oh and my temp today is 92.40 and stupid FF don't let me put it in! WTH? it says
"your entry of 92.40 does not seem right. " so what? That's my temp and a stupid computer should put it whatever I type.ughh

[LolaInLove]

Wow, WP, that is a great and very encouraging story! Makes me particularly excited because I have been having a green blend drink daily for months now and also been taking spirulina. The greens and nutrients from F/V are supposed to really do wonders for people's FSH levels. I don't have the FSH issues, but clearly there is something else.

Speaking of that, if I don't get pg this cycle, and if I don't give up, DH is getting his sperm tested, period. He is not against it or anything, I just haven't felt like it was necessary, but with 2 months of Clomid AND perfectly-timed BD (and after months of crazy healthy supps), there is no reason why I shouldn't be getting pg if all of my tests are coming back spotless. Maybe I just want to find something to blame. I know I shouldn't jump to conclusions, though!

[Flava]

WP- that's so great for your friend!!!!( I jumped up at eat an apple now lol)

About the baby shower I never had one and I never even been to one . No1 ever give me nothing so I really don't understand ppl who whine about it...like I remember back on IG when I read post about baby showers like "oh what do you this is this rude??" posts because ppl had a register and she did not get exactly what on her list was....I was thinking OMG WTH?? Why is she not happy she got presents , help ect? I just don't get it they should be thankful .I would be so happy!
Well that's what I think .

[LolaInLove]

Hey ladies!!!
Oh yeah I can't wait for Lola to POAS!!!!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeally hoping for a BFP here!

Me I feel a lot better today no sore throat and my eyes don't burn so much at all BUT I have a little runny nose now. Not much and all clear but yeah Im not happy. I may just go next cycle...:sad:
And the thing is Sept. or not it's dam hot here! But it will be in Oct. too so I guess it don't matter . And it's not fall yet first day of fall is Sept. 23.
Oh and my temp today is 92.40 and stupid FF don't let me put it in! WTH? it says
"your entry of 92.40 does not seem right. " so what? That's my temp and a stupid computer should put it whatever I type.ughh

YAY! So glad you are feeling better! That is a really low temp....maybe FF thinks you are dead, LOL.

[Flava]

It's just for me or this site is loading soooo slow for everyone? This going on for days now!
I went on IG just to see and it's working like a charm:suprise:

[Flava]

G2g pick up DD3 I see they are outside on the playground. She must be happy because like that but they can only use it when it's cloudy because it's so hot they can't go on the sun. (there is a screened porch where they play normally all in shade) yeah gotta love fl...
Lunch is tuna salad today for me lol.

[Alexis2007]

Hey girls...I haven't had my appt yet but I just wanted to let you know my hpt was negative today. My bleeding is heavy with clots. My cramps are worse with sharp pains on my left side.

Lola-I'm taking in all of my hpt's to show the doctor if he doesn't believe me lol. I'm demanding bloodwork, an u/s, and my Rhogam shot. I'll update after my appt this afternoon. Thanks for being so supportive ladies!

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola my love- you and dh are suped to your eyeballs and you're full of clomid it'll definitely happen. I would say don't test tomorrow, it's an almost guaranteed bfn and you don't need any more of those. Give your emotions a break and wait till 10dpo :kiss:

B- we almost moved to Texas earlier this year but dh's company decided they needed him here more. I was kinda bummed, we would love to move away from dh's family but he loves his job so they would have to move us.

Alexis- Big hug hun, I'll be waiting for your update.


Besides the cabin fever dd3 is back to her sweet crazy self, it's amazing what 24 hrs on antibiotics can do. I'm considering letting her run with the neighborhood kids a bit today, she's been so sad sitting here with me while her sisters are out playing. So rough being sick when your 4 lol

[daisyfay311]

Oh Alexis, I am so sorry. :( Big hugs for you.

Lola, I am very excited for you! I think your symptoms sound very promising!

WP--cool story about your friend!

For me, I feel a lot better today. My initial beta yesterday was 571 so we will see how it looks on Friday. For any symptoms watchers, my boobs were super sore (that never happens to me) and I was pissed off for two weeks, lol! Seriously I was uber bitch America, every little thing made me mad and my mom and my friend both said, hormones! It's funny because with dd my first symptoms were crazy dreams and I would cry over happy things in movies, that never used to happen to me. I did cry last weekend over a kid's essay about his great grandma but that kind of thing has happened to me more often since dd so I didn't think too much of it. Oh, and this time we went out to eat this twice weekend and the food just didn't taste right. It was places I like, orders I'd had before, and it happened twice so I was pretty sure something was going on but I didn't want to say it for sure.

I had this superstition that I wouldn't test until today (9/1) because I know three people with birthdays today and they're all boys. And DH was like, just test now (when I was having cramps) and I was like but I only know girls with birthdays today! lol So I looked up famous birthdays for 8/31 and it was like all boys so I felt better. But I think I would really be happy with either gender, I really wanted one dd and I got her so it's all good. DH says we are having two kids no matter what because he doesn't want more so I'm like, well I better try to enjoy this pregnancy then. I just hope I continue to get good news. I wanted to kind of keep it secret but I had to leave work yesterday unexpectedly for a blood draw and then I came back with this huge things on my arm. Seriously, if my family ever loses our home in a flood we could use that bandage for a temporary shelter. Frigging ridiculous. So EVERYBODY was asking and I suck at lying. I might as well have had a t-shirt that said "knocked up." Oh well, yes it's more people who know if things go wrong but it's also more people who can think happy thoughts and pray for us now.

[3Pink1Blue]

Daisy- so glad you're doing better today! I hate how weepy I've become, I'm not usually much of a cryer but I cry at everything these days.

[LolaInLove]

Hey girls...I haven't had my appt yet but I just wanted to let you know my hpt was negative today. My bleeding is heavy with clots. My cramps are worse with sharp pains on my left side.

Lola-I'm taking in all of my hpt's to show the doctor if he doesn't believe me lol. I'm demanding bloodwork, an u/s, and my Rhogam shot. I'll update after my appt this afternoon. Thanks for being so supportive ladies!

OH NO BUMMER, Alexis...I am SOOOO sorry, hun. I hope you are doing ok. I know you've had one before and don't need to hear me say this, but you know how common it is and you can try again right away. My heart just breaks whenever anyone gets all excited and then has to be let down like this. ): We are here for you if you need to vent. BIG BIG BIG HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[zanacal]

I'm gatecrashing ... I'm so sorry to hear your news Alexis. Big {hugs}.

[Flava]

Im on CD4 not CD5! But on FF the calendar is on Sept.2! How can I change that to SEpt.1?? Or is it wrong for everyone?

[Flava]

Ohhh Alexis that's a m/c Im so sorry for you ....:sad: omg we were all so happy for you. big hugs
http://dl.glitter-graphics.net/pub/1676/1676101p2svtyui6z.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Flava]

3pink- so nice DD is all better!!

daisy- you need a prego sticker here!

[begonia]

Hi ladies! Not much time but oh, Alexis ... HUGS! Big ones. I am so sorry to hear your news, it wasn't at all what I was expecting to hear. Let us know what the doc says. Hope you're doing OK. I'm just so sorry to hear it.

Daisy I'm glad to hear things seem to be going a-ok for you though! Keep us posted. How many weeks does this make you?

Lola I'd love to move North, I am MUCH more into cold (even the muck of snow) than I am heat. But oh well, there are worse things in life than sweating! Fun that you're a TX girl though! If it wasn't so hot (and in fairness this is the hottest summer we've had in 30 years) I'd like it a whole lot better.

Jen LOL about wanting to move to get away from the fam! But having read what you've written about them all it makes total sense, they are pretty horrid people to have to be around.

Flava so you're for sure waiting til October now? Wish I could help with FF but I don't use it so clearly can't help!

Have to go get DD1 from kindy, BBL!

[cemas]

Big Hugs Alexis....so sorry hun...it feels devastating....i know

Congrats Daisy!!! Hopefully we will have much more bfps following...

Begonia, i would love to change places with you....i live in cold MN and prefer the heat to the long winters here.....life is sometimes funny.

Lola if you can wait for 10dpo....FX for u dear.
Yes if not this cycle i am back to medicated ones with my RE next month.

Flava hope u get better soon. its only cycle day 4....so no worry.

[LolaInLove]

Daisy, glad your pains have eased up and all is ok! Congrats again!!! Excited to hear how your betas go tomorrow. Hearing you are bitchy and weepy in the 2ww makes me feel optimistic, because MAN ON MAN have I been this time. Anyway, I hope you are feeling well, and yes, get a ticker!!!

Cemas, I would love to see you get on some meds. Sorry I keep preaching that to you. I just know how long you've been doing this along with me. xxoo

Flava, that is weird about FF....I'm sure there is a way to adjust the calendar, although I've never had to do that. I am so glad you are giving it a go this month!

Begonia, I am with you on the snow. People from up north laugh at me when I tell them I'm moving to Chicago someday, but having grown up in Houston and New Orleans for the most part, I would welcome a change, even if it means ridiculous frigid weather and driving snow and wind. It would be like a new adventure! Part of me wants to move back to New Orleans, though, which is worse than TX because of the hellish humidity.

Zan, you are welcome to gate crash any time!!!! xxoo

[LolaInLove]

And you guys are right, I know I'm heading for disappointment testing at 8dpo. I'm a hot mess lately, and can't decide whether I want to or not. If I do, I will heed everyone's caution about the probable bfn. Thanks, ladies!

[daisyfay311]

Thanks ladies! I'm techno-dumb though, where do I get a ticker?

[LolaInLove]

Thanks ladies! I'm techno-dumb though, where do I get a ticker?

Look at the bottom of tickers you like on here....many are from either pregnology.com (that is my fave), or lilypie.com or tickerfactory.com. You make it, then you copy and paste the code for the ticker (there are usually pretty easy instructions) onto your siggie here.

[ELP]

So sorry Alexis:(

[ELP]

Thanks ladies! I'm techno-dumb though, where do I get a ticker?
You could do a google search for some daisy:) And congratulations xxxxxxxxx

[WashingtonPromise]

Alexis: I am so sorry. There isn't much to say that hasn't already been said. I hope your doing okay and get back on the horse when your ready. I hate for things like that to happen to people, especially if you have already gone threw it before.

iluv: I meant tell you....I agree with you about the foodstamps. We have never partcipated in any govt programs and don't plan on starting. The less I get from them the better. I am not sure why my parents have the money= children additude. My parents have lots of "toys" to make them happy and our children make us happy. Don't get me wrong, they love the kids and family, but Dad came from a "put everything in savings" family....and we have no or little savings. We have no regrets....dad wishes he was around more when we were kids. But my brothers are all renting, own nothing, and have no money.....go harass them :) They just want the best I guess.

[Alexis2007]

Well doc confirmed the miscarriage. DH took off work to go with me. I don't think I would have been able to keep my composure if he wasn't there. I did really good and didn't cry.

Did an u/s and saw absolutely nothing ( I didn't know that Mr. Wandy looks like a penis lol!). I was worried about it being ectopic as I was having severe pains on my left side. Nothing in there either. That's good. My cervix has already closed so he said it looks like the miscarriage is completed.

Soooo....he recommended waiting 2 cycles. I said inwas hoping to jump right back in and he said try to wait at least one cycle. Have any opinions on this ladies? He also recommended taking a baby aspirin everyday.

So no more boy diet for me, except maybe lemon water. I still may take my supps since I have enough for another month or so. Maybe I will be extra fertile now. One of my friends had a chemical in Feb and got pregnant with a boy in
march.

[jane]

so sorry alexis:LotsofLove:

[jane]

my doctor said that it was fine for me to try straight away because it was an early chemical.i wanted to wait a cycle though because i read that it can sway girl after.plus its given me time to get in the right frame of mind,i know its a pain to have to keep waiting but its gone by so soon and my next try is in 3 weeks! hope you feel better soon,we are all here for you x

[Kris217]

So sorry Alexis :(

[lightofmylife]

OMG , so sorry Alexis :( big hugss
one of my frd just told me she is 5 months preg after reoccurring m/cs for almost 2 years , she didnt find out yet.
Lola ... dont worry honey , hope its ur month :)
i always try to b with u guys but every thread goes sooo fast :(

[Hobbermittens]

Alexis, I'm so sorry! :( I hope you are able to try again as soon as you feel up to it.

Lola, I agree that you should wait. You'll have a better chance of a positive test in a couple days. Waiting is a killer, isn't it?

Daisy, Congrats on your BFP!

This thread moves SO fast. I wasn't able to keep up with everything in the August thread, but I am trying to keep up this month!!


BTW, I don't know if anyone remembers, but I was having trouble gaining weight at first on the boy diet. NOT ANYMORE! I am up 7 lbs all of a sudden. Yikes! I already look pregnant and we haven't even had our attempt yet!!:suprise::worry:

[Tink18]

Oh Alexis i am sorry. everyone that i know that has carried ttc right away because you are more furtle. I.say go with your gut. Sending hugs!

[Tink18]

I am still feeling so crampy. I feel like AF is going to be here any.second...just.not due.till next Tuesday. Maybe she is coming early.

[b3blue]

Alexis- I'm so sorry. Waiting a cycle is good for you emotionally and can help them date a pregnancy better. But medically, so far as I can tell, you don't have to wait. Huge hugs.

Lola- I hope this is your month!

Tink- I hope AF stays away.

Gals can you all take a look at my chart? We're supposed to be avoiding for my testing at the end of the month and what in the world it looks like I o'd on CD9?!?!?! I used to O cd 15 or so before my second DD was born and since my cycles have returned, cd17-19. I'm floored and this would mean we have perfect timing this month. Can fish oil make you o early? It's the only thing I've changed. I temp vaginally so it's really accurate.

My Ovulation Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/lilbitcrunchy/)

[3Pink1Blue]

Alexis- again Hun, so so sorry :( i agree to wait a cycle, you're only talking 6 weeks till your next attempt, it's hard but over all worth it. Big big hug.

[WashingtonPromise]

Alexis: I am soooo sorry. Glad you went to the doc and have some peace of mind. I would TTC when I felt up to it, but 6 wks really isn't too long.

b3: I would temp for a another week or so before deciding FF is right. They have me wrong O dates 2 months in a row. This month they thought I Oed 2 days earlier until I kept putting in more temps. You may have Oed on CD9 though.....I just think it is too soon to tell. Is it important for you guys not to get PG this month because you going to the doc? GL can't wait to see your temps for the next couple days.

LOLA!!!! Where are you hiding? I am assuming you did not cave and test today. I have been tempted to rip open my box of tests I hid away.....I have to practice self control....at least for a few more days. I had cramping today, kind of weird for me....I don't think I ahve had that before in the 2WW.....it only lasted a couple hours. Thank goodness this weekend is going to keep me busy. We are going to a flea market tomorrow to liquadate some the overstock of chickens we have.


Anyone have plans for Labor Day?

[b3blue]

WP: Yep, my test results won't be accurate if I'm pg. My temps just never go to 98 if I haven't o'd. It's so strange!

Ok calming down a bit. I did have a few temps higher than 98 in my Jun cycle. However they weren't after such a bit dip so idk. We shall see. I can't say I'll be sad to be pg in the slightest bit but I do really want to get these results right once and for all.

[Flava]

Flava so you're for sure waiting til October now? Wish I could help with FF but I don't use it so clearly can't help!
I fixed FF they send me email. DH want to go and Im not but I may never try like this Im afraid I come up with some excuse next month too...Im not really sick at all only have to rub my right eye in the corner...feel so big but if I look it's not...everyone says it's allergie. I don't know...


Lola- Im stalking your FF and looking good!

[Flava]

Alexis- Im sorry big hugs! Why did your Dr said to take baby aspirin? I wanted to ask about if anyone taking it but I think no1. I was thinking to do so after O when we ttc but just can't remember why it was good...
Also i think you can try to ttc if you don't want to wait because it was so early. Lot's of ppl would not even know if tehy don't take a test and they try next month right?

[Flava]

Hey hobber yeyyyy for 7 lbs!!!! umm I look pregnant to lol lots of fat on my tummy:rolleyes:

[Flava]

3blue- looks like you did O so early I have no clue why fish oil don't do nothing for me. (not even more ewcm)
or maybe you O twice this month? I could happen you will O again? Or FF just wrong...sorry Im not a big help on this.

[Flava]

WP- your chart looks good too!:bluecheer:

[LolaInLove]

Hey guys, I'm FREAKIN' SICK NOW, feel myself going downhill as the day goes on. I have a huge spike this morning, partly because I think I have a fever. But this is good, I usually get sick.....those of you who have been with me for a while now know that's my symptom. I didn't test this morning. Will on Sunday, I think. I'm still all emotional too. Anyway, I want to write one of my usual long replies to everyone, but my brain is not working so well. So, if I skip commenting on you, don't think I don't luv ya!

First of all, Alexis, I am sorry, sister. I know it sucks big time. I would say the skipping a month is up to you. I can tell you this: I conceived DD1 two weeks after a chemical. I remember feeling pg, and when I went in a month after my m/c, right before I was supposed to start AF for a checkup to see how my lining looked, I told her I felt pg again. She laughed at me. Then she came back and told me I was indeed pg. LOL But it was a girl, obviously. Lots of women have boys after chems, though.....it's not a for sure girl ticket. However, I do believe that it is best to give yourself a month for that lining to just get back into gear. On my off months, I take supps AF-AF for lining and track my O to see what happens and just chill, it's a nice break to gear up well for another good sway. And definitely take the baby aspirin....if you don't know, it helps your lining have thinner walls to veins and such so the bean can make a better "connection" during implantation. I take it every 2ww. All that being said, I think if you want to go for it again, you should. No harm in that if it was so early. Your lining likely shed just like AF, so no big deal. The girl sway thing is because they hypothesize that increased progesterone sways girl, and if you had more b/c you were pg for a stint, then it would. But, that early, you likely had no more than you would with a regular LP, kwim? But if it were me, I'd just take one month. I did after my January chemical and got pg right away in March....but of course that one was my 10wk loss, so who knows. HUGS AND LOVE your way, I hope you are doing ok.

Blue, looks like you did O super early. Must have been the fish oil, that is interesting. What are you doing with the protein s deficiency? Doing ok? You and your family are beautiful, by the way, saw your FF chart there. Did you dtd right on O then? You must have been superovulating to bust that egg out soon like that, hopefully if it's a pregnancy, then it was your superman egg!!!

WP, cramping a week after may be implantation! You don't normally have that? UH OH!!! When are you testing now? I have my tests hidden away also, LOL. I wish I could have a bunch of chickens to lay me some eggs. If I didn't live in the middle of the city, I'd get some! Although you can have 6 in the city limits. My dogs would go batshitcrazy if we had any and probably eat them. (I have 2 black labra-somethings and a 12 year old golden who is my 1st baby/furbaby. Both of the labs are morons...I caught the boy STANDING on the couch with one of my Crate&Barrell pillows in his mouth while the stuffing was spread all over the room the other day. Think of what he'd do with a chicken, lol.) Ok, huge tangent there.

OK, I have gotta stop rambling. I do have a fever, that is for sure. I have interviewed 2 people at work today and feel like I acted like an idiot but didn't want to mention I'm coming down with something!

[begonia]

Alexis I'm so sorry hun. Thank goodness DH came with you. I do think anecdotally the cycle post-mc "sways girl" but don't know if there is any evidence to back that up. I say go for it when you feel like it. Are you dropping the diet due to the mc? Or just tired of it?

Heather I'm not a charter so have nothing to offer there, I'm sorry! I haven't heard of fish oil bumping up an O, but sometimes the body does just kick the egg out early. In the 9 months I tracked mine I was almost always on CD13 or 14, but did have 2 cycles where it came on 10. No reason that I could figure! Hope all works out how you would like it to!

Flava I do think there will always be something that could make you think it isn't the "perfect" month to TTC, it's such a tough call! If you feel well I say go for it, but I understand why you want everything to line up right this time. Such a tough decision for you, I wish there was an obvious answer.

I'm going to pretend Lola tested this am and got a BFP and is celebrating with cake and ice cream so her hands are too busy to type and tell us :cool:

WP, FX for you!!! When will you break out those tests? 9? 10?

Hobber I guess you got the diet workin' now :suprise: You're trying Oct right? FX you get pg quickly so your weight gain stays low! And just bc getting pg quickly is obviously the goal :happy:

So today I am DYING to find out what is in my belly, LOL! I still feel great about the outcome either way, I can totally get excited about another little girl, but I just want to know!!! I am going to be watching the screen on my next u/s like a crazy woman. That said, I really do love the idea of the birthday surprise so I hope I can make it there! Even if I see something during the u/s as long as the tech doesn't say it I won't know if I really saw anything, KWIM? Those things are always baffling!

[begonia]

Oh darn, Lola isn't eating cake and ice cream. Sorry you're sick love but ... kinda glad to hear it :fx:

[LolaInLove]

Oh darn, Lola isn't eating cake and ice cream. Sorry you're sick love but ... kinda glad to hear it :fx:

LOL!!! Thanks, B. I wish I didn't feel this crappy, but does make me a little more optimistic. At least I have a long weekend to lay around. I think it's cute that you are having a want-to-know day! We'll just have to distract you and remind you how fun it would be to wait, although, of course, I am also dying to know what is in your belly.

[Flava]

Lola- you said you are never sick from all this green sups . So let's hope it's a bfp!!!:bluecheer:

I wanted to ask everyone what to take in the 2ww?? It was so long ago for me I forgot...:suprise:

[LolaInLove]

Exactly, Flava! The only times I've been sick this whole year are the two 2ww when I was indeed pg.

I only drop EPO in the 2ww, I keep taking the fish and flax oils and such. I think Atomic said you don't want to shock your body and immediately deplete it of nutrients it is used to. What else are you taking and we can hoperfully tell you if there are any other no-nos....

[Flava]

begonia- I may try because I think this is from the a/c ...it's so hot outside and every time I jump in the car I blow the cold a/c on me. Maybe that is why my eye feels like this?hmmmm and anyway next month is not better at least this month i will have full moon ( I hope my O is not early) and next month not even that.But it's Oct.:think:oh well I don't think I get bfp first try just to sat that.
I always got bfp easy but this is ttc and others said it's harder to get a bfp like this.

[LolaInLove]

But A/C is good for positive ions, right?

[Flava]

Exactly, Flava! The only times I've been sick this whole year are the two 2ww when I was indeed pg.

I only drop EPO in the 2ww, I keep taking the fish and flax oils and such. I think Atomic said you don't want to shock your body and immediately deplete it of nutrients it is used to. What else are you taking and we can hoperfully tell you if there are any other no-nos....

oh I take lot's of thing lol here is my list

pottasium
Vit. E
fish oil
Vit. B 12
zink
Vit. D
CoQ10
FA
prenatal
DHEA
Fertile CM
wheat grass
grape seed
BY
oat capsules
drinks: green tea with lemon
V8 spicy
V8 fusion
gelatin
ACV
ural

and I drink some COT AF to O this month only

[Flava]

But A/C is good for positive ions, right?

yes but looks like not for my eye lol if this from the a/c maybe from the allergie /sickness ...no clue
Im anyway not sure about ion/sway because it did not help with my last sway .But I burn pine oil and incense too just in case LOL

[Flava]

G2g cook some dinner . Have fun all!
We don't do much on the weekend and DH need to work on Monday.
But I will be here stalking charts :bigsmile:

[iluvmyman]

Oh Alexis!!! I'm so sorry hun! Big big hugs here. I wish I could fix it for you. I'm glad DH is there for support. Thoughts are prayers are going out your way!!!!

[b3blue]

3blue- looks like you did O so early I have no clue why fish oil don't do nothing for me. (not even more ewcm)
or maybe you O twice this month? I could happen you will O again? Or FF just wrong...sorry Im not a big help on this.

I'm wondering if it's a gear up to O type of thing and then I don't. I would have never thought to start taking opks now and I have only 1 left! I'm debating ordering more when if I did in fact O that would be a waste. We're avoiding the rest of the month regardless so I guess I'll just wait and see.


Hey guys, I'm FREAKIN' SICK NOW, feel myself going downhill as the day goes on. I have a huge spike this morning, partly because I think I have a fever. But this is good, I usually get sick.....those of you who have been with me for a while now know that's my symptom. I didn't test this morning. Will on Sunday, I think. I'm still all emotional too. Anyway, I want to write one of my usual long replies to everyone, but my brain is not working so well. So, if I skip commenting on you, don't think I don't luv ya!


Blue, looks like you did O super early. Must have been the fish oil, that is interesting. What are you doing with the protein s deficiency? Doing ok? You and your family are beautiful, by the way, saw your FF chart there. Did you dtd right on O then? You must have been superovulating to bust that egg out soon like that, hopefully if it's a pregnancy, then it was your superman egg!!!

Aww thanks. I have no side effects of the deficiency so I'm good. I just really wanted the results to be accurate finally as it's what the 3rd time I've had this test. We dtd o-2 and o-1 figuring I had at least a week until O. We've charted to avoid with no bd after cd 10 and been fine so gah! CD9 what in the world. Of course I would be so thrilled to be pg and I guess God has a different plan. At least I've kept up the supps and while I didn't do so great with the diet around AF (we were out of town) I have just made sure to eat all the time no matter what it is. Dh is finally back on his supps too since I started putting them on his plate again lol.

I'm sorry you're sick!


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Heather I'm not a charter so have nothing to offer there, I'm sorry! I haven't heard of fish oil bumping up an O, but sometimes the body does just kick the egg out early. In the 9 months I tracked mine I was almost always on CD13 or 14, but did have 2 cycles where it came on 10. No reason that I could figure! Hope all works out how you would like it to!



So today I am DYING to find out what is in my belly, LOL! I still feel great about the outcome either way, I can totally get excited about another little girl, but I just want to know!!! I am going to be watching the screen on my next u/s like a crazy woman. That said, I really do love the idea of the birthday surprise so I hope I can make it there! Even if I see something during the u/s as long as the tech doesn't say it I won't know if I really saw anything, KWIM? Those things are always baffling!

Well now that is really interesting! The body can just have a couple random early O's to change things up teehee. I'm excited to know what you're having too. That wait is killer I know and makes me think there's no way I'll be able to wait until the birth.

[Alexis2007]

Begonia-I'm dropping the diet because I'm tired of it. I'm still gonna eat healthy and keep up my blood sugar.

AF was only 1-2 days late so I'm thinking it might be ok to try. Gonna talk with DH and see what he thinks. It's just getting so close to DD2's bday in July. DH says we will handle it though :) I've also heard you're more fertile after a mc.

[iluvmyman]

Phew - I'm totally caught up! :)

Lola - I think those are all great signs of a bfp and I might just pee my pants if you are. If you test before 10 dpo just be prepared for a BFN. If not, wait till 10 dpo. I'm a hormonal crazy person throughout pregnancy but certainly those 1st set of weeks and I'm really thinking this might be it for you.

Flava - That is just not right that you've never had a baby shower. I'd throw you one if I could! I do have to say that I'm guilty of complaining about those who don't follow the registry. Not uber complain just get bummed. The problem is that you spend all of this time studying what you want and generally put a lot of time and effort into your registry. When you have a shower (especially the 1st baby) you sort of hope to get those things you registered for. People of coarse love to buy clothes and normally 0-3 months clothes. So you really end up w/ a lot of things you might not need and very little of what you do. I do hate to complain about that but people should help you get what you really need and maybe a cute little outfit too. I'm not being selfish though I hope. I try to stick to people's registry's.

Daisy - Congrats on the BFP. According to Kaiser these are the HCG levels. You are right where you s/b and I think they double every week or so.
Pregnant women, about 4 weeks after the LMP:
50–500 IU/L
Pregnant women, about 5 weeks after the LMP:
100–10,000 IU/L

WP - Re: money. I know especially in the Bay Area where we live, it's very money focused and family is a different this as a lot of folk here are 2 income families. My DH and I have also decided that we just aren't going to have savings right now, a house we own, nice cars.....we have more kids. It's hard sometimes trying to keep up w/ the Jones's. We normally joke and put our best friends last name when we use that phrase. They stopped at DD2 and meant to stop at DD1 just cuz they want to travel and retire as early as possible. DH and I just have to try and be happy where we are. It's hard here cuz things are sooooo expensive and he really needs to make another 30k for us to be comfortable but it will work. I think it's just a matter of priorities and choices and we've made ours. Now all you other little &*%%*'s can back the F*&* off and respect our choices. :) Hey maybe we'll hit the lottery some day. :)

Sorry if I missed anyone.

[iluvmyman]

sorry for the double posts you guys. Im having trouble posting for some reason.

[begonia]

Flava a/c could be contributing for sure... between that drying out your eyes and potentially allergies you could definitely be feeling yuck even when not "sick" KWIM? Re: 2WW I'd stop URAL but really, what you're taking should be fine. I think EPO (which I don't see on your list) is the only one that is a true no-no. ACV is up to you, it's safe to take every day.

Iluv I LOL about peeing your pants for a BFP for Lola! I would pee mine too!!!

Alexis, drop that diet then! I think eating healthy and keeping up your blood sugar is still swaying boy. Glad to hear DH is being supportive!

Lola enjoy relaxing your sick self this weekend! FX it ends with a BFP! Maybe we'll get a double dose of good news and WP and you can be due date buddies!

So Heather do you think you'll find out with #3? Have you ever had a surprise? We haven't yet and DH has always wanted one so I'm TRYING to honor that!

I think my curiosity is just increasing because we're finally telling everyone and after "congratulations" most people immediately say "will you find out?" So far I have to say I'm really happy because I haven't had a single friend say anything like "aren't you scared of 3 girls" or anything insensitive like that. I'm sure once I start showing I will likely get the comments from strangers but at least all of my friends are genuinely excited for us :happy:

[begonia]

sorry for the double posts you guys. Im having trouble posting for some reason.

I know Flava mentioned it too ... I've been having issues myself.

[WashingtonPromise]

Lola: Yay your sick!!! I would be happy with a little nausea :) I can't wait until Sunday. I bet you get a + with all your symptoms. I am so excited for you, if I had a pg bladder....I would pee for you too.

Begonia: You should get an u/s ticker too, that way we can talk you into finding out....I mean keep track.

iluv: I feel the same way.....it's our life and it is no ones business as long as we are all healthy and out of harms way.

Alexis: Glad to see you still around. I agree about ending the diet, if your eating healthy thats a huge +.

Flava: Getting close girl, we are all cheering for you!!!!

I don't know when I will test....trying to keep my mind off it. It looks like the rain coming my end our plans for Labor day, but we REALLY need the rain. I may have to cave and test Monday if my plans are cancelled. I would really like to hold out a little longer though....don't want a BFN.....maybe even after AF is due.

[Flava]

Flava - That is just not right that you've never had a baby shower. I'd throw you one if I could! I do have to say that I'm guilty of complaining about those who don't follow the registry. Not uber complain just get bummed. The problem is that you spend all of this time studying what you want and generally put a lot of time and effort into your registry. When you have a shower (especially the 1st baby) you sort of hope to get those things you registered for. People of coarse love to buy clothes and normally 0-3 months clothes. So you really end up w/ a lot of things you might not need and very little of what you do. I do hate to complain about that but people should help you get what you really need and maybe a cute little outfit too. I'm not being selfish though I hope. I try to stick to people's registry's.
I don't think you are selfish lol And yeah I think lot's of ppl like to buy baby clothes because it's so cute! I would just feel funny I guess asking ppl to buy me this and that .I don't know Im just not use to it I guess.

[Flava]

Flava a/c could be contributing for sure... between that drying out your eyes and potentially allergies you could definitely be feeling yuck even when not "sick" KWIM? Re: 2WW I'd stop URAL but really, what you're taking should be fine. I think EPO (which I don't see on your list) is the only one that is a true no-no. ACV is up to you, it's safe to take every day.
Really I can take it all? cool
no epo because Im taking fertile cm .Don't know why because it did not helped last month but no time or money to change it to epo.

[Flava]

sorry for the double posts you guys. Im having trouble posting for some reason.

yeah same here page are loading forever !

[Flava]

Wp-thanks ! Im not cheering at all Im so scared ..If I get a bfp I will think it's a girl if not then ohhh no bfp...crazy !

[daisyfay311]

Lola and WP: So excited for y'all to test! Yay!

Alexis: If af was only a little late, I would probably go ahead and give it a shot. I know several people who had boys after a chemical. But I would probably not drop the diet all together, maybe just do partial? But I know how you feel, I got pretty sick of it myself.

Begonia and 3P: Dying to know who y'all have in there!

My numbers went from 571 to 1144 in 48 hours so I guess that's pretty good. We're going to be optimistic and hope all is well.

[Hobbermittens]

Daisy, glad to hear your numbers are good and that you are optimistic!

Lola, I think you feeling sick is a great sign... hope it means something! Can't wait for you to test!

Begonia, I agree, get a ticker so we will know when you could find out what you're having. When is your birthday? Are you having your scan that day?

Flava, I think a/c is supposed to have lots of ions. Hope it helps!! Sorry your eye is feeling funny, but I bet it is allergies.

WP, do you sell actual chickens at the market, or just eggs? I love fresh eggs, and I wish we could have chickens! We aren't allowed because of our neighborhood rules.

[begonia]

Popping in to see if anyone tested :bigsmile:

WP you're staying strong; I think waiting til AF is really close is not a bad idea if you can do it!

LOL about me getting a ticker for the u/s! I don't have it scheduled though! And you don't have to talk me into finding out it's DH :wink: But I do still love the idea of waiting ... Lola I'm going to keep Frogs and her fun story in mind to help me get there!

Hobber my bday is in June so my scan definitely won't be then :bigsmile: I did get pg with this bean on my bday though so I'm keeping FX that's lucky, have to cling to something right!?!?

Flava I didn't see the fertile-cm on the list, I think that one is like EPO and only for af-o.

Daisy glad to hear the numbers are looking good!

[LolaInLove]

I tested, but a bfn as I expected @9dpo. I kinda just wanted to try one of these new wondfo tests. But I'm not discouraged. I slept literally from 6pm-this morning around 9am and feel much better. Maybe I kicked it? I am taking all the super vitamins still. I do have those burny kind of cramps today. I'm gonna test again in the morning.

Flava, don't take the FertileCM after O, and now Atomic is saying flaxseed oil is not good for ttc in general.

Daisy, also glad all is looking good!

Begonia, wish Frogs would send us the video, I'd love to see it! Maybe I'll ask her, it would be good motivation for you, yea?

WP, you would be smart to wait till AF is due if you hate the bfns.

On that note, Alexis, you are like me with my 1st chemical....I had it like 2 days after I would have had AF, so if I wouldn't have tested, I would have never known. That's the bane of these early tests, but we can't help it sometimes! I know what you mean about the diet. Personally, I think if you just be sure to eat well each day and eat a lot of different nutrients and make sure you are eating protein, that's not bad. I would not go back to MY old diet, which is hardly eating until 1pm and drinking 3 Starbucks daily! I hope you are doing ok.

Well, will check in later, hope everyone is doing well and has something fun to do today!!!

[b3blue]

Daisy- Great news, congratulations!

Lola- SS about the BFN, fx for tomorrow!

WP- Good for you staying strong. I just ordered some more ICs so I know I'll be testing from 8dpo on...testing addict I am! I keep telling myself it's for science. Just to see how early you could catch it lol.

AFM: My temp is up and down so I'm thinking I'm safe. TCOYF just moved my cover up on my chart there and that makes more sense. I'll know with a couple more temps for sure and I went ahead and ordered some opks just in case. Oh and OT but we got renters with a 1 year lease for our house! I think they'll probably stay longer than that and that is just a huge weight off of our (especially Dh's) shoulders.

[daisyfay311]

Aw Lola, I'm sorry for the bfn, maybe that will change in a day or two. Fwiw, in July I started testing early every day/two days and was so disappointed. And in August I swore I would not test til af was due and I got a bfp. With dd, I did not test until the night before af was due. I think early tests can be great but sometimes not--just because it is bfn at 9dpo doesn't mean it will stay that way! Fx!

We are getting tons of rain from the tropical storm here and I am laying around being so lazy and eating so much girl stuff! Oh my gosh, ice cream and shells and cheese and cinnamon rolls and chocolate chip cookies.....I mean, the gender is set now, right? I am back to my old habits!

[Alexis2007]

Daisy-I think I'm gonna do partial diet. Lemon water (acquired a taste for it believe it or not) and will eat healthy and keep up my blood sugar. Not gonna do the bs drink anymore. I still have a few cans of V8 left so I'll drink that leading up to O. Still have my supps too.

Lola-it's unbelievable how many women have chemicals and just don't know. It's scary for me though because I'm Rh negative and need the Rhogam shot after a mc. Though my doc said usually before 10 weeks you don't need it but he likes to give it anyway. I had found out I'm Rh- after my first mc at 6 weeks.

This TTC journey is such a roller coaster!

[Hobbermittens]

Alexis, do you need the rhogam shot to prevent a m/c? If so, why don't they just give it to you after a BFP? Why do you need it after the m/c?

Lola, test again in a few days (if you can wait!). Cramps are a good sign, right? FX for a BFP soon!!

Daisy, eat all the ice cream you want, you can't change the gender now! Dairy won't make a baby's willy fall off or anything! :wink:

[Alexis2007]

Hobber-the Rhogam shot is for my negative blood type. My husband is positive blood type. So if the baby has a + blood, my body will react and try to attack the baby with the different blood types. The Rhogam shot is given to the mother at 28weeks gestation, after delivery, after a mc, and after any time the mother bleeds during pregnancy. If not given, miscarriage is a definite possibility. The shot prevents my body from becoming sensitized and attacking the baby. I hope I'm giving a clear description of this lol.

[Mochagirl]

I'm just popping over here from the pink swayers to give my love to Alexis - I just heard the news, sweetie, and I'm so sorry! I hope you get your sticky blue bean really soon. :hug2:

[Alexis2007]

Awww thanks so much Mocha!! <3 So much appreciated!

[LolaInLove]

Alexis, my DD2 is negative, so that is good to know. Of course, I'm sure her doctor will tell her all this stuff when she is ttc someday, but my pediatrician did tell me about it also. She told me it's not a big deal, hope that is true for you! And you are so right about the chems. My doc told me like half end that way and a lot don't even know it.

So, another bfn today at 10dpo. I'm just not feeling it. I know it's still early, but I just don't feel like this is our month. Already looking ahead to next....I am going to have DH do the semen analysis...a wise friend who has been struggling longer than I told me I should go ahead and do it even though we know he's knocked me up a few times before (all to no avail though). I may take a month off the Clomid, whatever my doctor recommends. I'm just bummed and SO TIRED of this. Sorry to be such a bummer today.

[LolaInLove]

And also wanted to add that I am dropping everything. I will still eat healthy and well and take prenatals, but no more supps. Maybe for DH if he needs them, but I just can't spend $100 a month on it anymore. I'm even thinking of not doing FF or tracking or anything anymore. I just want to try dtd every other day....maybe not even opks. I just need a break, but at my age I don't have that luxury. I know this is terribly unmotivational for you swayers to read, but you just can't do it forever. I really hope you all get a bfp way sooner than later!!!!

[begonia]

:hug2: Lola.

Of course I also feel like cussing bc I'm just so upset that this *might* not be your month ... I remember your 1st attempt back on IG and it just breaks my heart what this past year (and then some) has held for you on the TTC front.

I know your past BFPs came at 10dpo so this feels like a definite BFN, but we all know ... 10 dpo is still to early to call yourself out. So I'm going to hold a sliver of hope but I totally get why you're thinking of next month already.

I like the plan to drop the supps and go with a good ol' healthy diet, see what your doc says about clomid, and to go ahead with the SA. Y'all have talked about it for a while and if you're not going to pay for supps this month then the money can be used for that. I remember it isn't very expensive.

Ah Lola. Go ahead and vent away ... YOU aren't a bummer. This situation is a bummer. You are lovely. :kiss:

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, B....I just feel like this is starting to make me crazy, ya know? I feel like my whole life is wrapped around this and I'm afraid I've lost a bit of myself. I don't even look the same, for crying out loud. Well, not much I can do but make a new strategy, I guess.....you made me feel a lot better though, thank you hun!!!!

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, your post made me so sad! :( I hate to see you feeling so down. I know you have been doing this a long time, and you have been through a lot. I can see that you feel fed up and exhausted. It must be really frustrating. :( Maybe stopping the supps and FF will help you, you know? Take off the pressure? SO many women get pregnant when they stop stressing about it... several people I know, who had tried for a long time and finally turned to adoption, then got pregnant when they WEREN'T trying!

You are such a great person; you deserve for this to work. Sending you huge (((HUGS))). I wish I could do more for you!

[WashingtonPromise]

Oh, Lola. Your not a downer....TTC is a roller coaster and we are all here for you. I agree that FF can stress us out (I haven't temped in the past couple days) and all the supp can get so overwhelming. I agree go for it!!! If my friend can get PG at 42 (she only has 2 children and has a hard time conceiving at all) and she wasn't even taking any vitamins or supplements.....you can do it girl.....just go healthy and stress-free. On the TTC boy board on FF more than half of the girls told me they had been TTCing for too long and just cut everything out (maybe kept up with supp), but got pg right away AND got their boy. Our goal here is to have a healthy baby first and gender is just an experiment. This month I have tried my hardest to stay away from the charts on FF and my old pg charts....just try to stay involved with the things I enjoy and love in my life. What are your interests? Maybe you could learn a new skill that you could use once you are pg or have a new baby....like sewing or knitting. You will have another baby. Big hugs from us.....please stay around even if you are not swaying (unless you just need a break from us).

Take care.....go get a starbucks (decaf just incase :) )

[Flava]

Flava, don't take the FertileCM after O, and now Atomic is saying flaxseed oil is not good for ttc in general.

I will do so with the fertile cm .And I never take falxseed so that's good for me.
Sorry about the bfn but it still early and I see your temp looking good. MAy have been a ID on 9 dpo?:fx:

[Flava]

Daisy- Great news, congratulations!

Lola- SS about the BFN, fx for tomorrow!

WP- Good for you staying strong. I just ordered some more ICs so I know I'll be testing from 8dpo on...testing addict I am! I keep telling myself it's for science. Just to see how early you could catch it lol.

AFM: My temp is up and down so I'm thinking I'm safe. TCOYF just moved my cover up on my chart there and that makes more sense. I'll know with a couple more temps for sure and I went ahead and ordered some opks just in case. Oh and OT but we got renters with a 1 year lease for our house! I think they'll probably stay longer than that and that is just a huge weight off of our (especially Dh's) shoulders.

That is great new about the house! And I forget to say last time you guys look so nice together and the girls are just super cute!!!!

[Flava]

Hobber-the Rhogam shot is for my negative blood type. My husband is positive blood type. So if the baby has a + blood, my body will react and try to attack the baby with the different blood types. The Rhogam shot is given to the mother at 28weeks gestation, after delivery, after a mc, and after any time the mother bleeds during pregnancy. If not given, miscarriage is a definite possibility. The shot prevents my body from becoming sensitized and attacking the baby. I hope I'm giving a clear description of this lol.

Same here Im RH- and hate that damn shot ! It burns like hell!

[begonia]

s....just try to stay involved with the things I enjoy and love in my life. What are your interests? Maybe you could learn a new skill that you could use once you are pg or have a new baby....like sewing or knitting. You will have another baby. Big hugs from us.....please stay around even if you are not swaying (unless you just need a break from us).


I think this is excellent advice that piggy backs on what you said Lola ... that this past year has taken you away in some ways from who you really are since you've been all wrapped up in TTC. It's hard to take your mind off of it though, I know.

Keep at it girl. Like WP said ... you will have another baby. As long as you keep trying you WILL get there. It's just a matter of time and unfortunately it has taken much longer than you and DH thought it would :mad: Hope that you've found something enjoyable to do with the rest of your weekend.

Heather, congrats on finding renters!

Daisy I LOL about all you've been eating now! Here's hoping you have no nausea this time around (did you have it before?) and can keep enjoying food!

Flava how're you feeling?

[cemas]

Lola.....bigs hugs dear and i think u still got a few days. u never know :)
i hear u abt this never ending TTC.....and yet we don't want to give up. i think maybe a month off clomid might do the trick as u got quick pregnant the natural months. i heard a friend of mine have 2 m/c's and then a normal baby boy and she is 33. so the m/c does not means ur eggs are bad or anything. it was just not ur time then. its just that the union of sperm egg was not ideal and its a complex process so things go wrong with good eggs too. i tried to read some and talked to few people after mine and so thats what i think. i would say do the opks atleast so u don't miss the best times . the temps etc really don't matter. i have almost stopped temping after O as i get weird temps, as i sleep with an open mouth or my clothes or with the room door left closed/open. So i figured i can live without that tension and be more relaxed in the 2ww.

where did u read that atomic says no to flaxeed oil??? link? i was thinking of doing it in 2ww just for longer LP

[Alexis2007]

Same here Im RH- and hate that damn shot ! It burns like hell!

OMG!! My arm hurt for 2 days!! Should have just made her stick me in my butt!! lol

[Alexis2007]

Lola-I'm so sorry you're feeling down. I understand about the diet. I feel the same way. Hugs to you girl!!

[b3blue]

:hug2: Lola.

Of course I also feel like cussing bc I'm just so upset that this *might* not be your month ... I remember your 1st attempt back on IG and it just breaks my heart what this past year (and then some) has held for you on the TTC front.

I know your past BFPs came at 10dpo so this feels like a definite BFN, but we all know ... 10 dpo is still to early to call yourself out. So I'm going to hold a sliver of hope but I totally get why you're thinking of next month already.

I like the plan to drop the supps and go with a good ol' healthy diet, see what your doc says about clomid, and to go ahead with the SA. Y'all have talked about it for a while and if you're not going to pay for supps this month then the money can be used for that. I remember it isn't very expensive.

Ah Lola. Go ahead and vent away ... YOU aren't a bummer. This situation is a bummer. You are lovely. :kiss:

You just word everything so well! I'm going to a do a serious "yeah that" :) Lola you are in my thoughts and WP's advice is great too about perhaps learning something new to take your mind off of things.


I'm so psyched to TTC I can't stand it. I've wanted this for months now and with DH finally on board (at least this week lol) and our financial stress eased we can really just go for it. Even if my test results come back unfavorable, I've already been through one pregnancy with lovenox shots and it's not that big a deal. DD1 has asked for a baby brother a few times lately and it just makes my heart melt. Hopefully though she won't mind another sister lol.

[ELP]

So sorry your so down Lola:( If there was bfp tokens out there I'd send you mine in a heartbeat, I just can't wait for your announcement whether its this month or in the very near future, just hang in there ok:HH::HH:

[Flava]

OMG!! My arm hurt for 2 days!! Should have just made her stick me in my butt!! lol

They always stick my butt! But then you can't walk :rofl:

[LolaInLove]

Hey, thanks everyone, you ladies are so sweet and encouraging! I got another negative this morning at 11dpo, but I am pretty zen about it today. You all are probably right, I need to chill out about it all maybe and just see if I get some luck that way...but won't be leaving GD for sure! The thing is, I have a SUPER full life....I run the largest performing arts organization in my state, and love every busy minute of it....and I've got the kids and a great husband now....and am involved in so much going on in the arts in my city....so my passion is really my family first, and then my work....BUT this ttc thing has taken my mind away from work a lot. I would say I am at about 80% of what I normally put into it, which is not great sometimes, but a good portion of my life has been taken over by all the ttc. I think you all know what I mean. So, I think it is time to put some more into work and find a nice lasting zen place with this ttc. I have 36 dancers coming back to the studio tomorrow for our official first day and a busy and exciting season for the next 7 months, so hopefully I can keep it all balanced. But again, thank you all for your love!!!!!

What's hard is that I just can't for the life of me figure out what on earth I could do BETTER, ya know? I know there is still some possibility that I could still be pregnant, but I am going to just move forward and assume I'm not. It's time for a semen analysis, like I said. Then, if there is a problem, we can deal with that head on. DH and I talked about the what ifs yesterday.....there is no way we can afford like 15-20K for IVF, but we decided it's important enough to us to have a baby together, so if we have to, we can harvest my eggs and freeze them in case I don't make any good ones anymore by the time we can save up for IVF- which may be 2-3 years. I am going to call my doc and talk to her about possibly seeing an RE and also what she thinks we should do now. I don't want to waste my full run of Clomid for nothing.

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, I heard a whole thing on the radio about egg harvesting and saving them for the future. Apparently, a lot of women do it with great results! I think that is a good solution if you end up needing to go the IVF route. I am glad you and your DH are able to talk about all this stuff and to be on the same page. You are really lucky to have a DH like that. I can tell you my DH would not be on board for IVF or anything. I once mentioned adoption, and he was completely against it, and wouldn't even hear my side of things.

Putting more energy into your job is also a good idea. It will definitely take your mind of TTC for a while. Let us know what happens with the SA.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, Hobber! I am glad you said that about the egg saving working out for a lot of people! That may be way unnecessary, but you never know. Thing is, I just gotta see what the deal is with the sperm here. If there is an issue, there is no point in us continuing to ttc unless we have a solution. If there is no issue, well, then we just keep trying indefinitely or just decide to give up. I worry about the ttc indefinitely, though. Anyway, this is the story that makes me worried about sperm, and also be perplexed: my bff's sister ttc for like 2-3 years, and finally, they started the infertility process. The DH's SA came back as "non-capacitating" sperm, meaning his sperm wouldn't shed their helmet and penetrate the egg. So, the only option they had was IVF. First round works, and they have B/G twins. When the twins are 6 months old, she discovers that she is pg naturally, and they have a girl. They are all so adorable, by the way, almost like triplets. Anyway, my bff told me recently that they got pg the month they got this new sex toy which, well, let's just say it vibrated everything, even the balls. (I ordered it yesterday, LOL!) So, I don't know, I get nervous hoping my DH doesn't have some issue that can only produce a baby via IVF, but then I get hopeful thinking that we still have some time and gotta just wait and see what happens. Thanks for saying that I am lucky to have my DH.....that is nice to hear. I do agree, I am lucky to have him, and I think it's a nice way for me to end up since my 1st DH was a complete nightmare. (:

[Hobbermittens]

That sex toy might have magical TTC properties, huh? :wink: Even if it doesn't, you'll have fun!! Anyway, try not to worry too much about what could be wrong. WHo knows what the SA will show. It may be something really easy to fix. I hope so!

[Flava]

Lola -I don't know temps are still looking good. When would AF due? I don't think you can only have a baby with IVF you was already pregnant with your DH right? Are you taking DHEA ? Maybe it can help. Im taking 50 mg and hoping it works.
Also painting the baseboard here so the challenge will be done before ttc lol:sigh:

[WashingtonPromise]

Lola: You are sooo lucky to have such an awesome DH. I don't think mine would be quite so understanding unless we had been trying for 2-3 years. Glad to hear your dancers will we back and in full swing again. Can't wait to hear about the SA. My SIL's DH (hubby's brother) had a SA don't when they had been TTCing for 3 years and it came back not so good....they pretty much told him he needed to quit smoking because his sperm seemed to be taking a smoke break too!!! He tried to quit but never fully did and they got pg 3 months later when on a TTC break (from FF, opk, and htp tests) they were 8 wks pg before they tested and they have went on to have 2 more children since then all very close together in age....and her DH still smokes (not that I think that is good), but anyway.....maybe a break from all the stressful part of TTCing is good.

Glad to hear you are doing a little better....I am not the type to stay under a rock too long either :)

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, ladies! My temps usually don't dip until the day before I get AF, which would be tomorrow, technically. I usually get AF on 14dpo (am 12dpo today). I'm having a few little cramps, so I bet it'll be here soon. I'm kinda over being bummed about it, but I do want to see if there is a sperm problem. WP, thanks for sharing that story! My DH smoked for a LONG time until I made him quite a few months ago (believe it or not, almost all dancers smoke!), and I've been stuffing him with sperm-boosting supps for many many months now, so hopefully they are ok. I think I'll have him do it on Friday, thinking I'll take another test in the morning, and if it's negative, I'll be pretty sure I'm out. Anyway, thanks again everyone. You all make me feel so much better!

WP, excited for you to test soon! And Flava, how you doing? Your try is coming up soon, yea? How about you Hobber?

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, good that you got your DH to stop smoking. I wonder if it is just taking a while for things to build back up?

My attempt will be in October... so this cycle is my last non-ttc cycle. I am starting to stress about getting everything right. There isn't much time left! I'm excited, but nervous. I wish my DH was doing his part better, but oh well. I m starting to wonder if I can handle 4 kids...:worry:

[daisyfay311]

Oh Lola, honey, I am sorry. I was really thinking this would be your month. I think you have a great attitude and a great plan going forward though.

My nurse called me this morning (after saying Friday that my numbers were fine) and my doctor wants to do an u/s on the 14th when I go for my first appt. I will only be about 6 weeks. Can they even see anything then? I didn't have an u/s with DD until 10 weeks. I've never had a vaginal u/s and I'm really nervous about it. I asked if the doctor thought something was wrong and the nurse was like, no we just want to do the u/s to see what's up. So now I'm going to be a nervous wreck until then. I swear, I kind of think that God/fate/the universe/whatever you believe in makes getting pregnant while swaying and swaying pregnancies more difficult sometimes so that we will appreciate what we have. I know now I'm just hoping this baby is healthy, regardless of gender. Though I'm already thinking it must be a boy because it is being so much trouble! My girl was no trouble whatsoever until the very end when I had pre-eclampsia. And this one is worrying me to death from the start!

[b3blue]

Tiffany- That's really odd they didn't say why. I would totally be calling back! Vaginal u/s's are no big deal and if they pushed it back a few days you'd see a heartbeat. Perhaps it's their policy to do a dating u/s at the first appointment or something.

[Hobbermittens]

Tiffany, I agree, the vaginal u/s isn't any big deal--just weird because it looks like big dildo. They even put a condom on it! I bet if they were worried something was wrong, they would call you in sooner. But like Heather said, you could call back just to be sure.

[LolaInLove]

Daisy, I agree with the others, the vag u/s is no biggie. I would call them back to ask why, tell them you are worried now. They certainly don't want worried pregnant women, so I'm sure they'll tell you something. It may be no big deal. I can only imagine with u/s numbers that it's something like wanting to see how MANY babies are in there or see if there is a developing yolk sac and fetal pole....I hope it's ok, and it probably is. Thanks for the hugs about me. (:

Hobbers, you can do 4 kids for sure! ELP is the big brood master, though....hopefully she can calm you down about it. Hey, she's still making em' too!

[begonia]

Daisy ITA ... the 6 week u/s is really nothing to fret about; it has in my experience been routine with each of my pg's to have a "dating" scan at the 1st appt. At 6 weeks Lola is right, they will be looking for yolk sac/fetal pole, but probably no heartbeat yet. With DD1 I had the vag and it is not my fave thing in the world but doesn't hurt or anything ... my last 2 pg's my early scan has been abdominal and I definitely preferred that!

So Lola has DH booked the SA yet? I'm curious to know what that reveals. It's one of those weird situations where you almost hope they find something, but it is easily fixable, and BOOM then you get pg :-) Prob won't work out that way of course. I do have a friend who it was that situation though. Can't recall what it was with the DH, but after the SA they "fixed" something and literally the next month he knocked her up. So who knows. Best to do the test and see!

Tink what's your update?

WP are you just waiting to see if AF shows?

Getting excited for Flava and Hobber to have attempts :-)

I'm having a hard time finding time to pop on much lately so if I'm absent know I'm thinking of all of you! And I frequently read our thread on my phone but hate posting from there so I'll be in touch. My house project has just gotten to a point where I'm constantly having to have meetings and go places and pick stuff out. Fun stuff but looking forward to getting it done.

[Hobbermittens]

I am on CD11 now, and I usually start today with my opks. I usually have a day or two of fade-ins before I get a positive, but today I got a positive! I guess that means I am going to O earlier this month? Normally I O on day 14 or 15, after 2 days of +opk. I am hoping today was my first day of +opk, but who knows, because I didn't test yesterday! I am guessing I will O a day early on day 13? Ugh, I hate that it changed this month--I was hoping for some consistency for my attempt next month!

[WashingtonPromise]

Daisy: Alright!!! An early peek at the baby. Like everyone said, if they were super worried I am sure they would continue betas or something.

Begonia: I remember building our house and all the work we put into picking everything out. It was a lot of fun, but most of the work for me started when I was 8-9 months preggo with DS2. DH, his brother (he has a company and this was their first house), and my oldest brother built our house....that was it....they subbed out the plumbing and hv/ac. I may have to dig up a photo of our house.

Lola: Are you testing in the morning? We can be test buddies.

Hobber: You may be Oing early, just keep testing....I have heard of people having a couple days of positives. Who knows, our cycles can get screwy on us.

3pnb: You need to post so we can see how many days until your U/S!!!

Have any of you ladies used the Answer early tests? I hope they detect early enough for 12dpo.

[Hobbermittens]

WP, we built our own house too (DH is a carpenter and did our house with his company). How exciting that you get to test tomorrow!! FX for a BFP! I have used those tests and they have worked for me at about 10 or 11 DPO I think.

[b3blue]

WP- I think Answers are pretty good. I got a pos at 11dpo but knowing my LP now I was actually a day late so I can't really say lol. I agree with you too that 3npb needs to post so we can stalk her u/s :)

Hobber- Man, our bodies never like to just go with the flow eh? At least that puts you that much closer to your attempt. October seems so far away sometimes.

[Kris217]

Hey, thanks everyone, you ladies are so sweet and encouraging! I got another negative this morning at 11dpo, but I am pretty zen about it today. You all are probably right, I need to chill out about it all maybe and just see if I get some luck that way...but won't be leaving GD for sure! The thing is, I have a SUPER full life....I run the largest performing arts organization in my state, and love every busy minute of it....and I've got the kids and a great husband now....and am involved in so much going on in the arts in my city....so my passion is really my family first, and then my work....BUT this ttc thing has taken my mind away from work a lot. I would say I am at about 80% of what I normally put into it, which is not great sometimes, but a good portion of my life has been taken over by all the ttc. I think you all know what I mean. So, I think it is time to put some more into work and find a nice lasting zen place with this ttc. I have 36 dancers coming back to the studio tomorrow for our official first day and a busy and exciting season for the next 7 months, so hopefully I can keep it all balanced. But again, thank you all for your love!!!!!

What's hard is that I just can't for the life of me figure out what on earth I could do BETTER, ya know? I know there is still some possibility that I could still be pregnant, but I am going to just move forward and assume I'm not. It's time for a semen analysis, like I said. Then, if there is a problem, we can deal with that head on. DH and I talked about the what ifs yesterday.....there is no way we can afford like 15-20K for IVF, but we decided it's important enough to us to have a baby together, so if we have to, we can harvest my eggs and freeze them in case I don't make any good ones anymore by the time we can save up for IVF- which may be 2-3 years. I am going to call my doc and talk to her about possibly seeing an RE and also what she thinks we should do now. I don't want to waste my full run of Clomid for nothing.

You could always travel overseas to have IVF, even with travel costs it still works out cheaper than IVF in America.

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobbermittens- omg your last cycle before your attempt!! Fx!

Flava- omg you're so close too!!

Daisy- I'm sure everything is just fine, kup!

Wp- testing tomorrow, so excited!!

Lola- how is it the few days I've been distracted you've had a complete crisis of sway/bfp faith? Everyone has pretty much covered it all but I will say I know it's been a long hard road and I'm sorry you're having such a tough time but you're not out yet! Fx for a bfp but if not I'll be eagerly awaiting the results of the sa. Big big hug hun, you are crazy tough, you'll be ok.


Sorry I've been absent, nesting has kicked in and we had to go to my fil's birthday brunch. I'll spare you the family bullsh*t and pass on the fun stuff. Jon felt his first kick last night! It was little but it was definitely a little thump. He loves the movement, it's like it's his first chance to bond. When the movement gets super crazy in the 3rd tri he will spend hours watching and touching the belly. The kids can't wait till they can feel it too. Anyway I've been cleaning like a mad woman and am completely pooped so I'm off to bed.

[Hobbermittens]

3PNB! How exciting that the baby is kicking hard enough for others to feel! Your girls will love feeling the baby move. Baby kicks are the best part of being pregnant!

Has anyone had trouble raising their pH? I am freaking out. I just checked mine and it was 4! Last time I checked it was close to 7, so I have NO IDEA what I am doing wrong??

[b3blue]

3PNB- Aww that's really sweet he felt a kick! SS about the family dramaz.

Hobber- Can't help as I'm not bothering with pH! The strips I have are awful I think so I just said to heck with it lol.

[jane]

Hi all,just a quick update.just had a tooth extracted so in a bit of pain!awaiting my 1st af since my chemical,then it's onto our attempt.hope af comes tomorrow then at least I know my cycles are still on schedule,then again what you want and what you get are not always the same when swaying hey!

[LolaInLove]

3PNB, that is so exciting! I am sorry you had some family crap, too. Always fun. Thanks for the encouragement, you are so sweet! I just hate this because I can't figure out how to fix it. I think we'll do the SA on Friday morning, so results take a few days. I can't decide if I want to stay on the Clomid or not in the meantime.

Hobbs, I don't do ph anymore either, but I do remember a lot of IG gals having trouble raising theirs also....I bet you remember that too. I'd say don't worry about it if it stresses you out. Ph isn't a big deal anymore, right? And about the day you O....it's all a crapshoot when you're swaying. That's my opinion, at least. Just start testing earlier next month and you'll be fine!

Jane, sorry about your tooth! I hope you feel better soon! I think my AF will come tomorrow also so we'll be on the same track next month.

My temp dropped and I got another bfn, it's 13dpo, so I'm out. I had cramps last night also. On to next month.....

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, sorry about the BFN. :( I was still hoping you'd get a late BFP. Do you have to bring in a sample from DH on Friday? Hope they have answers soon!

Jane, hope you are feeling okay after your tooth extraction! Sounds painful.

WP--have you tested yet today???

[begonia]

On to next month, Lola ... at least NOW you're really in prime TTC boy time right,?!?! We have to rejoice in the little positives sometimes. Let us know what you decide on Clomid. I think you're on round 2? I'd give it 3 before I chuck it for no reason other than 3 times seems to be a reasonable amount of time to give something a shot in my head!

WP and Hobber I'm super impressed y'all built your own! We have a GC who has a team of subs, LOL. DH and I haven't done a thing other than drive the architect crazy when we were planning it ... and of course picking out things now. And that's mostly me. DH will just get to live in my house :bigsmile:

SO excited for you to test WP!

Ouch Jane! Sorry to hear the tooth thing!

Hobber mine moved from 14 to 13 the cycle we conceived ... I wanted 0-2 and 0 but got 0-1 and 0. Tis what tis at this point!

Jen the kicks are so fun for DH's! Glad yours have started!! 16 days, YAY!

Ok have to run ... DD2's 1st day of preschool. My heart is hurting a little bit and I'm not sure I want to even do it but we'll give it a whirl ....

[WashingtonPromise]

Okay, I was feeling really crampy this am and I decided to temp before testing, temp was still way up and so I test.....

http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp536%3B6%3Enu%3D3343%3E879%3E89%3A%3E WSNRCG%3D36%3B6895245337nu0mrj

What do you guys think, did it show up in the pics (my monitor is crap and I can't tell? Still so faint.....

What is the most sensitive digi?

[b3blue]

Begonia- We had our first day of preschool today too! She went there in the summer though as a practice run so while she did not want to get out of bed this morning (that starts at 3?! lol) she went in there happily. This is the first time I didn't walk her into the building, the teachers meet us at the car since there's little parking. She was totally confused poor thing but it was ok.

Lola- Gah, ss mama :( Here's hoping there's a slew of bfps in October (yours and mine included!).

Jane- SS about the tooth! I just made an appointment for a cleaning and after that will be the big wisdom teeth extraction. Soooo not looking forward to that. I have no idea how I'm going to manage the kidlets with DH working 24-7. But I have to do it before I get pg.

WP- Hoping for good news with your test!

ETA: Ah we posted at the same time, BFP mama!! Clearblue Easy digis are the best imo. The FRER ones are less sensitive.

[WashingtonPromise]

Okay I have a minute before round 2 of school.....


Lola: :tissue:....I can not believe your BFN. Like Begonia said (she has such a way with words) at least it will be prime boy time. I wish I had some advice, I think destressing will do the most good. I knwo soooo many people that got pg while on a break or after giving up, keep you chin up. So, are you going to travel abroad to visit Kris and get and IVF?!?! Oh, you guys are in SC, right?

3pnb:Thanks for posting....not too long until you u/s!!! I love the baby flutters and then full on boat rockers.

Hobber: I have been drinking lemon water for months and months, it seemed to do a lot of good for me, but like Lola said.....it might not be too important. Tons of people have low phs and lots of boys.

Begonia: GL on the first day of preschool. Trust me, at the time I wish we had a builder.....way too much stress!!!

I know I missed someone.....

I am trying not to get too excited, it is so faint. I guess I normally test after I miss AF. I am not going to add the + test to FF until I have missed my period, another way I am trying to protect myself I guess. I have had a little bit of gagging while changing DD4 diaper the past couple days and my cottage cheese didn't taste normal yesterday (I even got the kids to test it). I really thought AF was coming early after the cramps this morning....but nothing.

[begonia]

WP!!!! I can see that BFP!!!!! :bluecheer: :running: :bluecheer:

YAY!!!!

I needed something to make me grin bc DD2 sobbed her little heart out at drop off. Aaaaaaaaaaargh. I held it together and smiled and told her I loved her and I'd be back soon, but as soon as I pulled away in the car I lost it. I promised DH I'd give it til Thanksgiving. My DD1 hated preschool at age 2 as well but loved it within 3 months so I am keeping my FX that DD1 loves it soon. If not I'll keep her home with me; she does great with babysitters so it's not like I can't get "time off" when I need it.

Heather I'm so glad your LO did well! We do a carpool lane too! There is parking and you have to walk in the under 2's, but 2 and over does carpool. I think it helps particularly with ones like my DD, b/c if I walked her in they would have literally had to peel her off of me and hold her back while I walked away ... this was MUCH easier for them to just unbuckle her out of her seat and cuddle her themselves. It's the sweetest school and I love it, I just hope she does too soon.

Hobber I forgot to comment, but I didn't bother with pH either. I just wasn't convinced it matters. But you have to do what YOU believe and if you want a high pH I think what seemed to work for more ladies was the BSD routine. I remember WLM drank hers not just AF-O but the whole month. She had a rockin' sway and did get a boy.

Had dinner last night with 3 of my friends, all of us have 2 of a kind, 2 of us have 2 girls, and 2 of us have 2 boys. Well one of my friends was talking about how she's SURE I'll have another girl because she "tried" with DS2 to get a girl (shettles book) and it didn't work, so she's convinced some people are just wired to get boys or get girls. I did not mention my sway nor do I plan to tell people even if it does "work" for us. Her comments didn't bother me but I can't wait to prove her wrong, LOL! And that is the ONE reason I wish I knew NOW what I'm having, so I could already be like, NOPE! Not true! Instead I have to wait til March. Boo for DH and his surprise!

But YAY YAY YAY for the BFP! Have you told DH yet??!? CONGRATS!!!!

OK off to volunteer at DD1's elementary school ... I am SO excited. This is my 1st time to be able to do that since DD2 hasn't had any school so I can't wait to get to meet some of her new little friends.

[LolaInLove]

YAY! Congrats again, WP!!!! I love it!!!

Thanks for your kind words, everyone. Nothing I can do but keep going, eh?

Kris, if push comes to shove and IVF is our only option, I may do that!!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobbermittens- it's subtle it's definitely a tiny kick! I did everything to raise my pH, drinks, eat certain foods avoid certain foods, everything. Highest I ever got it was 5.5/6, I said screw it and stopped checking, I truly think diet is way more important!

B3blue- there's always drama on dh's side, our house is peaceful and drama free that's all I care about lol

Jane- sorry about the tooth, ouch! Glad your next attempt is right around the corner and I'm lovin the positive attitude :kiss:

Lola- you are always welcome. I say stay on the clomid and make another attempt, can't hurt right?

Wp- I SEE IT, I DEFINITELY SEE IT! Woohoo!

B- sorry your little one is having so much trouble, but yay for helping in class! I love going in and meeting all their friends. Uh oh 14 weeks and the surprise is already killing you? You are in for a very looong pregnancy lol

Not much to report here, nesting has kicked in full swing so I'm going with it in hopes my house is spotless by the time the 3rd trimester sloth kicks in, yeah right lol I figure if it can get things into good shape now I can cruise through winter with little effort and a lot of big girl help.

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, I still cry when I drop my girls off at elementary school. That's why I make DH do it. I have a vivid imagination and am supremely attached to them....probably a product of the divorce and my hating when they are at their dad's. I hope your DD2 ends up acclimating soon! It's nice for them to start that socialization and separating from Mommy, plus, will give you some good time to rest! I hope your friend is wrong too!!!!!!

[begonia]

Awww, Lola, it's sweet that your DH drops them off though. He really sounds like a great guy so no wonder you two feel the need to have a baby together. ITA that it is good for them learning some separation and socialization ... DH is probably the one who pushes it more than me (weird, since it is me who is home with them) but I do think it has some great benefits for the kids.

3PNB I know, right?!?! I have a long way to go before I get to know! I am REALLY hoping I will see something on the u/s that will tell me :bigsmile: Yay for nesting!!! It's a fun phase.

Seeing DD1 at school today was the BEST. She's loving it. I never thought she'd be so confident and comfortable in a new environment so quickly, so it is really fantastic for me to see her developing and maturing that way. In preschool if I came to a class party she would want to leave with me and not finish her day, but today, she just smiled and waved and intro'd her new buddies, then ran off to do her thing. Awesome!

AND you know what else is awesome?!?! WP's BFP! I want to hear what DH said!

Off to get DD2, hoping she had a great day in spite of the rough start....

[Flava]

3pink-that boy is kicking alright! So cute!

hobber- I always had trouble with pH back on IG . Now I have no clue what happened (must be the different diet ans such) but I tested today and pH is 7.3 ! I never had this before so Im happy for it. I also started drinking ural and acw this cycle. Oh and just test the ewcm pH because creamy is always low.
Oh and forgot to say I brush teeth with BS after toothpaste at night.
jane- sorry about the pain! XO

lola- I don't even know what to say this sucks! I still hope af don't show up.

[Flava]

Okay, I was feeling really crampy this am and I decided to temp before testing, temp was still way up and so I test.....

http://images2.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp536%3B6%3Enu%3D3343%3E879%3E89%3A%3E WSNRCG%3D36%3B6895245337nu0mrj

What do you guys think, did it show up in the pics (my monitor is crap and I can't tell? Still so faint.....

What is the most sensitive digi?

wow I was stalking your FF and did not see a + you have to put that in LOL
great news I can see that line for sure!!that's a BFP!
http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/667/667594r62hyr5cwg.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[Flava]

I needed something to make me grin bc DD2 sobbed her little heart out at drop off. Aaaaaaaaaaargh. I held it together and smiled and told her I loved her and I'd be back soon, but as soon as I pulled away in the car I lost it. I promised DH I'd give it til Thanksgiving. My DD1 hated preschool at age 2 as well but loved it within 3 months so I am keeping my FX that DD1 loves it soon. If not I'll keep her home with me; she does great with babysitters so it's not like I can't get "time off" when I need it.


Heather I'm so glad your LO did well! We do a carpool lane too! There is parking and you have to walk in the under 2's, but 2 and over does carpool. I think it helps particularly with ones like my DD, b/c if I walked her in they would have literally had to peel her off of me and hold her back while I walked away ... this was MUCH easier for them to just unbuckle her out of her seat and cuddle her themselves. It's the sweetest school and I love it, I just hope she does too soon.

I just want to say you must be strong really because no way I could leave her like that for sure I take her home.Im just not strong like that.
And I carpool for little ones ? I never heard of it. We only have it in elementary here. Omg no way I can dry away and she is watching me crying!
I guess Im so lucky because DD3 just waked in and started playing that's it . If she would cry for me I take her home.:worry:I just can't do it:broken:

[WashingtonPromise]

Begonia: We go to a homechool co-op that gets together once a week for social skills and has some awesome classes that the kids love (like art and music, which I attempt, but don't have any natural skill). Anyway....we start Monday and DD4 is going to have some major seperation issues.....not looking forward to that, but it is only for 3 hours. Glad your DD1 is doing well, I am sure dd2 will follow.

Lola: If you go over seas for an IVF, would you please, plese sneak me in your suitcase ? :) I am only slightly over weight....I'll pay for the extra baggage fee :)

3pnb: Only 16 days!!!! Does that count today? Congrats on the nesting. I agree, get as much done as possible in the 1and2 tri. I always wait until the end to freeze meals, wash clothes, organize, etc.......big mistake. I think I have finally learned my lesson. I just can not help it, I always clean ligh fixtures when I am about 39 wks.

Thanks for all the congratulations!!!I am so glad you guys can see that line. I am still very nervous. I just hate that the line is so light. I won't be able to breathe a sign of relief until it gets darker.

I would love to tell Hubby with a digi test, we have never done one of those before. He called on his lunch break and I could barely keep it to myself. I figure that it will take a few days to get a + on one of those, right? At least he will be working, so I won't be too tempted to tell him.

[Flava]

Ok what to do?? In the last 3 months I had O on CD 13 the 17 then 14 .So I have no clue when I will O this month and so no clue when to DTD. Any ideas?? I will not do every day for sure and I was thinking on 2 try like O-2 and O day. (maybe 3 try but I don't want to do it to early before O)
Ok but when is my O day??:shrug:
Im using CBEFM but the damn monitor don't give me peak days just high :mad: same with the smiley test to late for O-2.
And yeah I can look at the test strips when I take them out but really it's not much help .The lines are not showing up on it like on a opk strip.
Im just so lost here.:drama:

[Hobbermittens]

WP! I see a faint line! I think that's a BFP!! CONGRATS!

Begonia and b3blue--hope the first day of preschool went well!

Begonia, I think you are doing the building thing right, having someone else do it! It was such a huge stress on my relationship with DH (everything is fine now)... we fought so much during that time! Plus, some of the stuff still isn't finished, 4 years later (the kid's closets have no doors, etc). You know the saying about how the cobbler's children have no shoes...

I have been trying to get my pH up! Drinking more BSD today, and I even tried the COT drink. But it gave me the sh!ts.:suprise:

[iluvmyman]

Oh Lola, honey, I am sorry. I was really thinking this would be your month. I think you have a great attitude and a great plan going forward though.

My nurse called me this morning (after saying Friday that my numbers were fine) and my doctor wants to do an u/s on the 14th when I go for my first appt. I will only be about 6 weeks. Can they even see anything then? I didn't have an u/s with DD until 10 weeks. I've never had a vaginal u/s and I'm really nervous about it. I asked if the doctor thought something was wrong and the nurse was like, no we just want to do the u/s to see what's up. So now I'm going to be a nervous wreck until then. I swear, I kind of think that God/fate/the universe/whatever you believe in makes getting pregnant while swaying and swaying pregnancies more difficult sometimes so that we will appreciate what we have. I know now I'm just hoping this baby is healthy, regardless of gender. Though I'm already thinking it must be a boy because it is being so much trouble! My girl was no trouble whatsoever until the very end when I had pre-eclampsia. And this one is worrying me to death from the start!

My Dr. had me go in every week for a couple of weeks to check on everything. They might just be able to see a black circle which would be the sac and they'll test your HCG levels again. The vaginal u/s is just like a penis really that they put into you vagina. It's no big deal. Your Dr. is just being cautious like mine was since my past history. I think it's a real blessing. They won't really measure till about the 9 week appt where you can hear the heartbeat.

I had them every week and now just want to go in again and see the baby. Its like a let down not seeing and hearing the heartbeat. I'm not that hungry lately and just want some re-assurance.

[iluvmyman]

3PNB, that is so exciting! I am sorry you had some family crap, too. Always fun. Thanks for the encouragement, you are so sweet! I just hate this because I can't figure out how to fix it. I think we'll do the SA on Friday morning, so results take a few days. I can't decide if I want to stay on the Clomid or not in the meantime.

Hobbs, I don't do ph anymore either, but I do remember a lot of IG gals having trouble raising theirs also....I bet you remember that too. I'd say don't worry about it if it stresses you out. Ph isn't a big deal anymore, right? And about the day you O....it's all a crapshoot when you're swaying. That's my opinion, at least. Just start testing earlier next month and you'll be fine!

Jane, sorry about your tooth! I hope you feel better soon! I think my AF will come tomorrow also so we'll be on the same track next month.

My temp dropped and I got another bfn, it's 13dpo, so I'm out. I had cramps last night also. On to next month.....

I was really hoping this was your month Lola! AUGH!!!!!! I'm glad you have a plan in mind but I wish I could do something to help. SUCK!

[b3blue]

I just want to say you must be strong really because no way I could leave her like that for sure I take her home.Im just not strong like that.
And I carpool for little ones ? I never heard of it. We only have it in elementary here. Omg no way I can dry away and she is watching me crying!
I guess Im so lucky because DD3 just waked in and started playing that's it . If she would cry for me I take her home.:worry:I just can't do it:broken:

When I took her in the summer I walked her in and the first day they literally had to peel her off of me. I found out she cried off and on for the entire time. The teacher was awesome and took her into the gym for one on one time to calm down. Then when everyone went outside she did fine so they didn't call me. I picked her up and she was crying again! Two days later she only cried a little. They made her the class helper which I think really did the trick. Two weeks later she was screaming in the car "I love school!! I miss Ms Angela!" and her teachers are telling me how great she does. It was definitely killer leaving her there but I just knew it was for her own good so we both had to push through it and the results have been amazing. Of course if she didn't change so fast I would have pulled her out asap.

Hugs about the opks, are you saying the strips don't work for you? Wondfos have been wonderful for me and so cheap.

[b3blue]

Begonia: We go to a homechool co-op that gets together once a week for social skills and has some awesome classes that the kids love (like art and music, which I attempt, but don't have any natural skill). Anyway....we start Monday and DD4 is going to have some major seperation issues.....not looking forward to that, but it is only for 3 hours. Glad your DD1 is doing well, I am sure dd2 will follow.

Lola: If you go over seas for an IVF, would you please, plese sneak me in your suitcase ? :) I am only slightly over weight....I'll pay for the extra baggage fee :)

3pnb: Only 16 days!!!! Does that count today? Congrats on the nesting. I agree, get as much done as possible in the 1and2 tri. I always wait until the end to freeze meals, wash clothes, organize, etc.......big mistake. I think I have finally learned my lesson. I just can not help it, I always clean ligh fixtures when I am about 39 wks.

Thanks for all the congratulations!!!I am so glad you guys can see that line. I am still very nervous. I just hate that the line is so light. I won't be able to breathe a sign of relief until it gets darker.

I would love to tell Hubby with a digi test, we have never done one of those before. He called on his lunch break and I could barely keep it to myself. I figure that it will take a few days to get a + on one of those, right? At least he will be working, so I won't be too tempted to tell him.

I think you could be safe using a digi tomorrow or next day! Your line looks great really. Congratulations!

[iluvmyman]

Hobbermittens- it's subtle it's definitely a tiny kick! I did everything to raise my pH, drinks, eat certain foods avoid certain foods, everything. Highest I ever got it was 5.5/6, I said screw it and stopped checking, I truly think diet is way more important!

B3blue- there's always drama on dh's side, our house is peaceful and drama free that's all I care about lol

Jane- sorry about the tooth, ouch! Glad your next attempt is right around the corner and I'm lovin the positive attitude :kiss:

Lola- you are always welcome. I say stay on the clomid and make another attempt, can't hurt right?

Wp- I SEE IT, I DEFINITELY SEE IT! Woohoo!

B- sorry your little one is having so much trouble, but yay for helping in class! I love going in and meeting all their friends. Uh oh 14 weeks and the surprise is already killing you? You are in for a very looong pregnancy lol

Not much to report here, nesting has kicked in full swing so I'm going with it in hopes my house is spotless by the time the 3rd trimester sloth kicks in, yeah right lol I figure if it can get things into good shape now I can cruise through winter with little effort and a lot of big girl help.

i stopped testing my ph when my meter broke and i never replaced it.

nesting for me really kicks in during the 3rd trimester

[iluvmyman]

Flava - how about DTD every other day starting at CD11 or CD13. I don't think timing is that important especially if you've been doing the other sway (diet & Blood sugar) and that's hard if it's bouncing around like that.

[Tink18]

Hi ladies. Still no af but still crampy. Not. Sure what is up...

[Flava]

3blue-I don't use strips just like that. I have a CBEFM so i use the CB strips with it.You can take it out after the monitor read it but it's not the same like the regular strips. And I use the smiley test too also digital so I can look at that too after it's done reading but I have no clue about the lines.

[Flava]

Flava - how about DTD every other day starting at CD11 or CD13. I don't think timing is that important especially if you've been doing the other sway (diet & Blood sugar) and that's hard if it's bouncing around like that.

I had O before on cd 13 so maybe I have to start on cd 11....but also had O on cd 17 and I just don't want to dtd way before O thinking it's more for ttc girl? Oh I have no clue anymore!

[Hobbermittens]

I had O before on cd 13 so maybe I have to start on cd 11....but also had O on cd 17 and I just don't want to dtd way before O thinking it's more for ttc girl? Oh I have no clue anymore!

I have the same problem. I think I will start DTD when I get fade-ins on my opks. Maybe on the first fade in day, then the first pos day. That's my plan right now, anyway.

[ELP]

Flava, will you be attempting this month or are you thinking of waiting to see what babydoctor recommends? She has put a brief suggestion on another thread, are you taking of the things listed??!! It sounds good:agree:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?5292-swaying-for-boy-advice-for-male-input&p=75086#post75086

[fourblessings]

You beat me to it ELP, thanks for filling the rest of the 'blue' girls in on the info Babydoctor posted. Tried to get online all day but too many kids here arghhh. Very interesting all these extra suggestions and I also love reading that study on the horses here in NZ and the key finding that its the 'change' in condition that swayed the gender. great stuff

[ELP]

You beat me to it ELP, thanks for filling the rest of the 'blue' girls in on the info Babydoctor posted. Tried to get online all day but too many kids here arghhh. Very interesting all these extra suggestions and I also love reading that study on the horses here in NZ and the key finding that its the 'change' in condition that swayed the gender. great stufflol 4b xxx It does sound good doesn't it, kind of reinforcing what we are reading about but with some in-lab back up:agree: I haven't read the horse study??? I'm off to hunt that down now!!

[b3blue]

Aww bummer, guess I need to be a dream member. :)

[WashingtonPromise]

Flava: I would start BDing every other day starting at about 10dpo since you have Oed on cd 11 before, just keep an eye on your CM

[Flava]

Flava, will you be attempting this month or are you thinking of waiting to see what babydoctor recommends? She has put a brief suggestion on another thread, are you taking of the things listed??!! It sounds good:agree:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?5292-swaying-for-boy-advice-for-male-input&p=75086#post75086

She says to take DHEA 50 mg -Im doing that:agree:
pre-seed- was thinking to use EW but it's not pasteurized so maybe I get pre-seed:agree:
royal jelly- no I did with DD4 so i don't see a use for it:thumbsdown:
folinic acid -I got FA :agree:
ALA- no clue what is this:shrug::thumbsdown:
DHA- I got it in my prenatal:agree:
CQ10-I take it:agree:
Vit E-take this too :agree:
Seaweed chews- don't have this but we take wheat grass :agree:
Reversatol it is a great Anti-Oxidant- don't have this but we take grape seed for anti-oxidant :agree:

for DH she says-to ejaculate often- we do this every other day now :agree:
lot's of Zink- he is taking Zing 50 mg for months ( maybe I will give him more just for this ttc days):agree:
folicinic acid -he takes FA:agree:
CQ10-DH takes the ubiquinol CQ10 (even better) :agree:
Pycnogenol, Testofen- no clue what are this so he is not taking it :thumbsdown:
korean( PANAX) or siberian ginseng - he is taking Korean :agree:

And we also take other sups so I hope it will be enough for us to get a boy finally!

[Flava]

Flava: I would start BDing every other day starting at about 10dpo since you have Oed on cd 11 before, just keep an eye on your CM

No I O'd on CD 13 . Today id CD 11 so I guess we start.omg...:nails:

[Flava]

Ok I have 1 room left to paint baseboard so the challenge must be done! LOL
Hope everyone is ok And no AF for LOLA! :noaf:
BBL!

[ELP]

She says to take DHEA 50 mg -Im doing that:agree:
pre-seed- was thinking to use EW but it's not pasteurized so maybe I get pre-seed:agree:
royal jelly- no I did with DD4 so i don't see a use for it:thumbsdown:
folinic acid -I got FA :agree:
ALA- no clue what is this:shrug::thumbsdown:
DHA- I got it in my prenatal:agree:
CQ10-I take it:agree:
Vit E-take this too :agree:
Seaweed chews- don't have this but we take wheat grass :agree:
Reversatol it is a great Anti-Oxidant- don't have this but we take grape seed for anti-oxidant :agree:

for DH she says-to ejaculate often- we do this every other day now :agree:
lot's of Zink- he is taking Zing 50 mg for months ( maybe I will give him more just for this ttc days):agree:
folicinic acid -he takes FA:agree:
CQ10-DH takes the ubiquinol CQ10 (even better) :agree:
Pycnogenol, Testofen- no clue what are this so he is not taking it :thumbsdown:
korean( PANAX) or siberian ginseng - he is taking Korean :agree:

And we also take other sups so I hope it will be enough for us to get a boy finally!

Looking good!!! The ALA is Alpha Linolic Acid (showing off now lol) and is found in walnuts!! So if you've been eating any of these then you've been getting a healthy top up:agree: All systems go for you I believe!!!!!!!!!!

[Flava]

Looking good!!! The ALA is Alpha Linolic Acid (showing off now lol) and is found in walnuts!! So if you've been eating any of these then you've been getting a healthy top up:agree: All systems go for you I believe!!!!!!!!!!

We are eating mixed nuts every day but no walnuts in it. I go buy some today for sure hope it's still helps some from now till O!
Also I just talked to DH and we are going with the pre=seed not the EW.

[begonia]

Oh my goodness Flava it is go time for you?!?!?! I'm so excited! :bluecheer::bluecheer::bluecheer:

ELP what did you decide to do re: the scan at 13 weeks? Book it or no?

I'm finally starting to look a bit pregnant! I think to most people I just look thick in the middle but my friend I met today said she could kinda tell :wink: She did laugh and say (in a funny way) normally she can't tell with me til 6 months so either I'm farther along than I say I am or I'm just packin it on with #3 ... gotta love friends like that :rofl:

[Hobbermittens]

No I O'd on CD 13 . Today id CD 11 so I guess we start.omg...:nails:

FLAVA!! You are starting tonight???? I am so excited for you!!!! GOOD LUCK!!:bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm: :bluesperm::bluesperm:

[Hobbermittens]

I am not taking all the stuff that the baby Dr. recommends. Is it too late to start some of that if our attempt is in a month?

[LolaInLove]

I was really hoping this was your month Lola! AUGH!!!!!! I'm glad you have a plan in mind but I wish I could do something to help. SUCK!

Ah, thanks, babe...I know, it sucks!!!!! I am SO glad you are progressing along beautifully!!!!

[Hobbermittens]

Begonia, I bet you are looking cute! Are you starting to wear maternity clothes?

[LolaInLove]

Flava, do it girl!!!! ITA with WP, do it every other day. YAY!!!

Interesting thread from babydoc, we do take all of that, except for the Korean panax stuff....I did drop the DHEA though because of the Clomid.

Begonia, I bet you look cute! I like looking pg, then I get seats sooner and free cupcakes and stuff. LOL

So, check out my temp today! AND NO AF yet? I didn't test this morning (14dpo) but I don't have any spotting or anything yet, and I would have started today, even with the progesterone. I skipped my midday dose yesterday and today, although I took it last night, and still.....nothing yet. Idk. I don't want to get my hopes up, because I may open up like the red sea at any moment, but this is a bit unusual.

[LolaInLove]

OK, I looked at my chart from last month and realized that I started AF on 15dpo, but I didn't take any progesterone on 14dpo because I got a bfn that day. Hmmmm.

[LolaInLove]

OK, please ignore me. I think I'm trying to hold on to a sliver of hope. LOL I bet I'll start tomorrow.

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, maybe you are pg! Test again!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Lola: Honey we are here to listen (read) your rambling, I checked your chart this morning and seen that wonderful temp too!!! I say if your temp is still up in the am, then test again....you never know. Are you using wondfo brand? Oh, do you guys live in SC?

Begonia: I am so jealous of you....I want to start looking pregnant at 18-20 wks. Have you started eating 10 candy bars a day again? :bigsmile:

I thought about trying to add some more exercise back into my daily activity in a couples months, have you ladies ever heard of "The Firm: Express" ? You only exercise 30 minutes a day and my friend has been doing it for about 5 wks and has seen major results. She also said it would be safe while preggo or postpartum (which she is). It's a thought anyway....

[Tink18]

Ok no af for me... And a bfn. I feel terrible though. Something needs to give.

Lola Im really pulling for you! Hugs friends

[3Pink1Blue]

B- thick in the middle, I hate you lol

Flava- fx!!!

Lola- grasp that sliver darlin'! I'm with hobber test tomorrow!

Tink- how late is af? Feeling terrible how?


My BFF went back to work and I've been watching her daughter. I forget how frustrating babies are when you can't just latch em on lol She's got horrible sleeping habbits too. I so can't wait for our baby that I can train. And I hope you all kwim by train lol.

[Tink18]

She was due the 5-6 so Im not that late. But i am usually spot on. I had cramping since early last week and a major headache.

[jane]

hi,quick question.just wondering when your periods come back when you've had a chemical? i just assumed it would come back as normal but when does that ever happen!

[b3blue]

Lola, maybe you are pg! Test again!!

What she said!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Jane- fwiw even after my brutal m/c in Oct af arrived 32 days later. She may be late but fear not af will come.

Tink- omg test!!!

[Hobbermittens]

She was due the 5-6 so Im not that late. But i am usually spot on. I had cramping since early last week and a major headache.

I always get cramps when I am first pg. Test!

[Tink18]

I did this morning and was a bfn. Tomorrow i will be 16dpo. And. 3-4 days late. I still think its wild that i could have gotten pregnant on cd9....and 5 days before O. The suspense is killing me. With dd. We conceived on June 22 and i didn't get a bfp Till July 20. i had a blood test and 6 negatives inbetween. Just a waiting game now.

[ELP]

Hopefully theres going to be 2 very big bfp announcements here Tink and Lola!!I have every set of fingers X'ed in this house for you both:fx::HH:

[ELP]

I think may sway may have worked:suprise: I got some new pics and surely they're hopeful! So keep eating the nuts and givin DH the supps as we may have just cracked it:bluecheer:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?5223-ELP-s-scan-pics-warning-poor-quality-inside-lol!!!&p=75133#post75133

[Hobbermittens]

I am horrible at nub guesses, but I hope you are right! Cute baby!!

[ELP]

Thankyou Hobber:HH: Either way baby definately has a good sized head:suprise: Hope it doesn't grow too big!! LOL:)

[jane]

Jane- fwiw even after my brutal m/c in Oct af arrived 32 days later. She may be late but fear not af will come.

Tink- omg test!!!
thanks! actually,just been to loo and af is here.... never thought id be so glad to see it:rofl: just 1 day late! anyhow,onto next sway!!!!

[Flava]

ELP- THAT'S A BOY!!!!:bluecheer::xy::bluecheer:
Ok am I good at nub guessing or what? LOL
He is very cute and no he don't have a big head!

And Im eating the nuts but will it work for me? Who knows...

Ohhh this made me want boy even more...we had a first try last night but it was a disaster...:sad:(don't want to post about it out here) we never get a boy like this. And DH said this morning if it's another girl he kill himself. ehhh thanks...(it was just a joke but anyway...I know he is hoping for a boy so much ) :sad:

[Flava]

oh g2g baby is up bbl!

[ELP]

ELP- THAT'S A BOY!!!!:bluecheer::xy::bluecheer:
Ok am I good at nub guessing or what? LOL
He is very cute and no he don't have a big head!

And Im eating the nuts but will it work for me? Who knows...

Ohhh this made me want boy even more...we had a first try last night but it was a disaster...:sad:(don't want to post about it out here) we never get a boy like this. And DH said this morning if it's another girl he kill himself. ehhh thanks...(it was just a joke but anyway...I know he is hoping for a boy so much ) :sad:
Thanks Flava:kiss: And even if last night was a disaster for you, remember it could be any one of those swimmers waiting in the crypts thats gonna make it, and with your prime boy body going on, guaranteed they're gonna be much faster out of the starting gate as soon as that egg flashes her little corpus luteum at them:bigsmile:

[WashingtonPromise]

I tested with a FRER this morning and it was +, but not any darker than the last. I also did my digi and got a "not preg"....I am a little worried. I am 14dpo now, I last tested at 12dpo. What do you guys think?

[begonia]

So Tink will you be thrilled or disappointed that you didn't get your sway on like you wanted? I hope you get the result you'll be most at peace with! I remember you saying it took forever to get a + with DD1 ... maybe call your doc next week though and get checked out?!?

WP, don't fret, the digi's are just not very sensitive. If you have a + you have a +. I'm sorry it is causing concern though!

Lola I'm all about slivers of hope so I'm still keeping FX ...

ELP I posted in your scan pic thread but CONGRATS!!!! That is a VERY good nub shot! And another great example of how 1 pic (the 2nd one in the very 1st set you posted) can lead to wrong guesses. Because now you have several that show very clearly a boyish nub!!! So exciting! So will you wait til delivery to confirm now?!?!

I'm wishing I had a good nub shot now :mad: My wiggle worm was upside down thru the whole scan anyhow so it definitely did not want me to know.

Flava FX you feel better about attempt #2; sorry last night wasn't as planned. How are the OPK's looking?

Jen your scan is going to kill me ... with ELPs nub, and then you hearing blue (FX FX FX!!!!!!) I am going to go nuts with this not finding out! And I bet Babydes will pop on with her blue news ... I can't wait!!!!

Hobber and Jane you gals should get attempt count down tickers, you're both so close! Very exciting!

[Flava]

I tested with a FRER this morning and it was +, but not any darker than the last. I also did my digi and got a "not preg"....I am a little worried. I am 14dpo now, I last tested at 12dpo. What do you guys think?

Maybe yous wait with the digi test ...i don't know why the line is not darker:shrug::think: but sure hope everything is ok!
Im stalking your temps every day and you don't do it! Bad girl!:mad:

[LolaInLove]

hi,quick question.just wondering when your periods come back when you've had a chemical? i just assumed it would come back as normal but when does that ever happen!

Usually just like nothing ever happened, but it can vary depending on your hormones, ya know? You should have a regular cycle afterwards. I think that's why they recommend you skip a cycle after a chem, but many women don't. What is yours doing?

[Flava]

Flava FX you feel better about attempt #2; sorry last night wasn't as planned. How are the OPK's looking?

Still low and no smiley but I took the test trips out and looks like the blue lines are darker.Hope not to fast! I really realllly want to O on the 12th it will be full moon! And also my BD #3 would be on the 12. If I O earlier then I don't know how to do it...hmmm DH said lets do the next BD tomorrow morning and not at night. But that's only 1.5 day not 2. Isn't that to early??

[Tink18]

Well af showed up nice and late at 4am this morning. Woke me up! What a bitch! anyway dh was super bummed when he heard me.in the bathroom. I was actually really disappointed and shocked she actually came. So i guess in 14 days we will make our first official attempt! Im really excited.

[LolaInLove]

I did this morning and was a bfn. Tomorrow i will be 16dpo. And. 3-4 days late. I still think its wild that i could have gotten pregnant on cd9....and 5 days before O. The suspense is killing me. With dd. We conceived on June 22 and i didn't get a bfp Till July 20. i had a blood test and 6 negatives inbetween. Just a waiting game now.

I am right there with ya! I'm 15dpo and a bfn this morning. But, I am taking half the usual dose of progesterone, not stopping it completely yet, so it may be staving AF off a few extra days. That is what I'm thinking for me.....but YOU, Tink.....if you are never late, and this is unusual, then keep testing! If you get super late bfps, then maybe this is the case again!!!! I noticed that there are a good number of women who get bfps late on FF. GOOD LUCK!!!

[LolaInLove]

Well af showed up nice and late at 4am this morning. Woke me up! What a bitch! anyway dh was super bummed when he heard me.in the bathroom. I was actually really disappointed and shocked she actually came. So i guess in 14 days we will make our first official attempt! Im really excited.

Oh look, I'm a second late on the previous response. I'm sorry, but glad you didn't have an oops!

[LolaInLove]

Flava, I personally think frequent bd is not that bad for ttc boy.

Holy crap, temp is up again! Maybe it's because I slept in for 30 minutes and drank wine last night though. No AF still.

[Flava]

Lola- I hope there is no AF for you!!! You know maybe you O'd on cd 14 not on cd 13.

[iluvmyman]

Sooooo sorry Tink that you are dissapointed. :( GL in 14 days though!!!!!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Tink: Sorry about AF, but at least you can try a proper sway. When is the wedding?

Flava: Just give DH some lovin' and then you will have it super covered :)

[Tink18]

Keith said yes no to being disappointed. Yes because it.would have been exciting to get pregnant.without even trying! No because we can do our attempt properly. I am really excited for my next o day! wedding is.next month on the 22nd....if i O properly it will be the 23rd for our attempt...i.would be 4 weeks if it works at the time of wedding...i.wouldn't even know if i was pregnant yet.

[Tink18]

OOh and meant to say i feel the same way as dh.

[Hobbermittens]

ELP! The nub guessers are all saying boy!!! I am so excited for yoU!!!

WP... I would keep testing. I think if you got a + from a test, it is probably just a matter of time before the other tests pick it up! COngrats!!

Flava, what was so bad about your attempt last night? I hope your next attempt goes better!! YOU CAN DO THIS!! MAKE YOUR BABY BOY!!!!

Have any of you ladies been drinking Alka Seltzer Gold? Does anyone know how much BSD and COT I can drink along with it?

[Hobbermittens]

Well af showed up nice and late at 4am this morning. Woke me up! What a bitch! anyway dh was super bummed when he heard me.in the bathroom. I was actually really disappointed and shocked she actually came. So i guess in 14 days we will make our first official attempt! Im really excited.

Sorry Tink! :( But you can be really ready for your next attempt!!!

[LolaInLove]

Keep BDing, Flava!

Hobber, I did the ASG....I wouldn't do all of them, though. I actually have come to believe that it's really not good for you...I only did one ASG a day from AF-O.

Tink, yay for being 4 weeks then, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for you to have a beverage or two.

Still no AF....

[Hobbermittens]

Lola, still no AF? THat's nuts! Maybe you have a Mr. Lola Jr. in there??

[begonia]

Just checking for the AF/no-AF saga of Lola ... and of course, hoping for no AF and a BFP .... oh that would make my whole month, I swear!!!

And looking for the update on Flava too ... how are the OPKs? Did you BD last night? FX for you!

Hobber I did ASG 1x a day AF-O but only the cycle I tried to get pg. I also did 1/2 tsp of BSD 1x a day. And I did ACV, 2T, 2x a day.

Tink, sounds like your timing for your attempt will be perfect next month!!

AFM I'm dying to know what I'm having, LOL. I am NOT cut out for waiting. I WANT the surprise, I think it will be amazing, but how on earth am I supposed to wait that long?!?!? I think if I find out I can see myself being like "ok. so I know now. Whoop de doo." And if it IS a boy, I'll kind of wish we waited til birth for that amazing announcement.. though lately I don't think we'll hear boy, I think it is a girl. Last night DH was like you know if you really want to find out of course you can ... but I know how badly he has always wanted to have the surprise and so I really want to hold out for him. But it's soooo hard. I wish I had at least gotten a nub shot. All I have to obsess over is Ramzi and I really don't think that matters at all.

It's going to be a looooooog 25 more weeks!

[Flava]

Hey girls
Im also stalking Lola and WP here! hope it's a bfp!!!

begonia- no BD last night we do every other day so today and I hope I O after tomorrow and that is 1 more then.

Im the same like you! We always find out before and never had a surprise baby .This will be the last chance to do it so I really want it. BUT what if a miracle happen and it's a boy?? Would be so awesome to know Im pregnant with a boy !!!
And also do my dream room for him. I think it's so good when the room is done and not everything is yellow white and green.(or so) But the surprise is awesome too and there maybe no GD then if it's a girl.

[Alexis2007]

Waiting to hear about Lola this morning. :D

I'm getting anxious girls! My attempt is coming up. Hoping my O is not delayed or anything due to the chemical. I am not having a full on sway this time. Still doing the lemon water, bananas, tomatoes, and potatoes and some V8. Keeping my blood sugar up and making sure to eat healthy. Going to the gym this time lol. I decided not to take my EPO this cycle. Maybe I need a break from it and if need be maybe it'll work for me next cycle. Still taking the fish oil, folic acid and all that other stuff. Also added in the baby aspirin once a day.

I'll be taking an opk in about 20 mins. It was positive this time last month. FX!!

[WashingtonPromise]

I am so sorry to be a downer, but yesterday I took a FRER and it was neg....then right before DH comes home (I was going to tell him the good news) Af came full force and then some. I was at a loss to begin with, it was in the evening....all the children were in bed and it was so quiet.....just me crying on the tile bathroom floor. But like I said, I don't stay down long.....I am counting my enormous blessings.....an awesome DH, 6 children that I can love and hold anytime I want, and soooo many other things. The little bean just didn't hang on quite tight enough. The only thing DH said was "Well, it must have been a boy....they have a higher m/c rate, right?" I guess he has been listening as I pour out all this info to him. I just hope the nausea goes away completely by tomorrow....just a bad reminder....time to move on.

I had this happen once before, the month before conceiving DS1. I started to spot at 5wks and went to the ob...they assumed I was never preg and had imagined a line on my test....yeah come on, anyway long time ago.

Is there anything different I can do to help with implantation?

[Alexis2007]

Oh WP!!! :( I'm so sorry for your loss!! It is devastating to get all excited and then have it crushed. I do know exactly what you're going through :( It seems to be going around a lot lately.

My doc told me to take a low dose baby aspirin once a day everyday. Supposed to help the uterine lining. Also I've increased my calcium/dairy intake significantly. I read somewhere (I'll have to look it up again) that you need adequate calcium intake to get pregnant and prevent m/c. I am officially off the boy diet this cycle and while I'm not really a dairy person typically, but that is why I've increased my dairy now. I'm at the point of wanting to get pregnant and not worrying about gender.

[begonia]

:hugs: WP. Dh does make an intriguing point there... regardless, I am so sorry for your loss :sad: FX this is like the month before you got pg with your DS1 and you have a nice, sticky blue bean soon.

Alexis, FX for you! Keep us posted. FWIW I believe full fat dairy should be very much a part of the blue sway. The Oxford study showed more boys born to the women with a high intake of calcium. And full fat dairy is excellent for fertility. I think overall it is great that you added it in.

Flava it's funny isn't it, because like you I'd LOVE the surprise! But getting there is HARD! And I agree ... if I knew it was a boy, I'd have such fun getting a room ready for him. But ... if it is a girl, it will be so sweet holding her in my arms on her birthday. I just wish I coulda gotten a great nub shot so I at least had a hint to hope on, ELP's has made me all kinds of envious :mad: Envy about the nub shot, not the boy, I'm super happy for you ELP!

Honestly I can see why Babydes backed off the forum because it can make you think MORE about gender than you otherwise would. I am sure if I wasn't hanging out here I'd be less obsessed.... but I'm too invested in all the gals here to leave!

[Hobbermittens]

WP, I am so sorry!! :( What a rotten thing to have happen.

Flava, good luck tonight!! I am thinking of you!! I hope DH sends in a bunch of blue swimmers!:bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluespe rm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bl uesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesper m:

Begonia, I have to say, the only baby that I found out gender with was my 3rd. It was not nearly as fun of a birth, since we already knew what she was. I also had GD, which made the whole pregnancy suck. My first two were delivery room surprises, and I HIGHLY recommend it!! Way more exciting.

Lola, any news?

Alexis, I think your plan sounds good. Lots of people are doing the full-fat dairy.

Has anyone had any issues with hair loss after starting all the supps? My hair is falling out like CRAZY!! I can't think of what else could be causing it. It fell out after the baby was born, but then seemed to get better. Now it is bad again.

Also, a question about DHEA. Who is taking it? Is it good for the boy sway, or just good for fertility? I got some, but haven't taken it yet because of the scary warning on the back about causing facial hair and hair loss (which I am already having without taking the DHEA!!!)

[Flava]

WP- Im so sorry for AF:sad: I also lost 7 and sometimes I cry for it still....

[Flava]

hobber-thanks ! I sure hope we have lot's of xy up there this time. Isn't it funny? I was just thinking yesterday that we have them in up there. There are right there hanging out!!! All we need is to 1 xy to jump in that egg first.
I better tell my egg don't she dare let a xx in this time!:nono:LOL

Oh Im taking DHEA 50 mg. No hair problems for me.

[iluvmyman]

:bighug:WP, I wish I could give you a big hug. So sorry you are going thru this.

[Tink18]

hey ladies Im on my second day of af and Im having major.blood clots...i have never experienced anything like this. it really freaked me out. any advice? im thinking of calling my.doctor just to make sure.

[WashingtonPromise]

Thanks guys for the support.

Is baby aspirin the same as baby tylenol?

[Alexis2007]

Thanks guys for the support.

Is baby aspirin the same as baby tylenol?

No I don't think it is. The kind I have is Bayer Low Dose "Baby" aspirin. It is 81mg and I take one per day. My OB said lots of women take this to help the uterine lining get ready for implantation. I found it at Walmart on the aisle with Tylenol and Advil.

[ELP]

Lola, Hope your ok and will be checking in with a bfp report soon!!!!

[b3blue]

WP-I'm so sorry :(

Tink- I'm not sure. Hope all is ok though, that would worry me too.

Hobber- No hair loss here. I think mine is actually growing for a change.

ELP- What sweet pictures of your baby!

Thinking of you Lola, I spied your chart mama. :hugs:

[Flava]

Lola- Im so sorry for AF!:sad::bighug:
You know I read that for professional dancers is harder to get pregnant. Now this was about the woman dancers but maybe it's true for mans too?


I have Q ! Do fertile-cm delay O?? I thought I will O tomorrow but still no sign. Low monitor and no smiley test. ( I can see the strips a little darker blue buy that's it) So I stop taking fertile cm today.
Im happy because tomorrow is full moon and we will dtd again , but don't want to O days later!

Oh last night BD was ok.:owl::p I thought it's gonna be bad again but it was ok at the end.

[begonia]

Begonia, I have to say, the only baby that I found out gender with was my 3rd. It was not nearly as fun of a birth, since we already knew what she was. I also had GD, which made the whole pregnancy suck. My first two were delivery room surprises, and I HIGHLY recommend it!! Way more exciting.


Thanks Hobber, this is super encouraging! I have to say I do really want the surprise. I still might find out though, LOL. I had a dream last night where I went to find out at a private scan, and heard it was a boy, and instead of getting all excited I was mad at myself for ruining what would have been an awesome delivery surprise. So I don't know ... deep down I really would love to have that experience. And again, I'm not going anywhere, but I'm certain if I wasn't hanging out here and didn't have all of you to share the news with, I'd be able to stand the wait much more. None of my friends IRL are TTC or pg, so this is really the place that makes me think about it more.

[begonia]

Thinking of you Lola, I spied your chart mama. :hugs:

*sigh* Hugs from me too Lola. When will the results come in for the SA?

[begonia]

Oh last night BD was ok.:owl::p I thought it's gonna be bad again but it was ok at the end.

Glad it worked out OK! And that is fab about the full moon for you tomorrow! I didn't take fertile CM so have no real clue on it ... I would expect though that yes it can delay O since it does contain L'arg, and I know that for sure can delay it. Is this the 1st month you have tried it?

Tink KUP. Did you call your doc?

[Flava]

begonia- last month O was on CD 14 but I only took 2 fertile cm not 3 like now. Also looks like my O is on a different day every month so Im not sure. Oh well I just hope if it's not tomorrow the is after that and not later.

And I thought I will O early haha

[Hobbermittens]

Tink, I always get clots with AF, and I never realized it wasn't "normal". But if you are worried, ask your Dr, maybe?

Lola, Sorry for AF!! :(

Begonia, glad you aren't going anywhere. We like having you around! :)

Flava, did you see the post on the Harvest moon?? I think you will O that day--Woo hoo!! Fertile CM didn't make my cycle too long. I took it 3x a day this month after AF, and I O'ed on Day 12, when I normally do 14-16! Weird?

[Flava]

No clue about harvest moon! I try to find that post.

I find it wow so cool! Oh please let me get a blue bfp!:pray:

[Hobbermittens]

No clue about harvest moon! I try to find that post.

I find it wow so cool! Oh please let me get a blue bfp!:pray:

I have my fingers crossed for you. Flava!!

[Flava]

Really where is everyone??

No O today for me. I have no idea why. You can only test once a day with this monitor but I will make another smiley test tonight.
Well at least it's full moon tonight and from now on so that's good! And we have another try tonight:p

[ELP]

I'm on Flava :) New mon, new moon, new moon yay!!!! You made it to the new moon! Thats got to be a good sign hasn't it!! Have you looked up what moon sign it will be just to be extra superstisious lol:) I'm so hopeful for you! I see no reason for it not being perfect little man time for you:agree:

[ELP]

I just looked it up for you Flava!! Your not gonna believe this but at 7am the moon moves into 'Aries-the strongest male moon'!!!! Exactly the same moon that my bump was conceived in!! Its a sign, without doubt its a sign:suprise::bluecheer: And it lasts for 2 1/2 days!!

http://www.lunarium.co.uk/calendar/universal.jsp?calendarYear=2011&calendarMonth=8
You may have to change the location somehow as its set for London:)

[begonia]

I just looked it up for you Flava!! Your not gonna believe this but at 7am the moon moves into 'Aries-the strongest male moon'!!!! Exactly the same moon that my bump was conceived in!! Its a sign, without doubt its a sign:suprise::bluecheer: And it lasts for 2 1/2 days!!

http://www.lunarium.co.uk/calendar/universal.jsp?calendarYear=2011&calendarMonth=8
You may have to change the location somehow as its set for London:)


:bluecheer:FANTASTIC news for you Flava!!!!!!!! :bluecheer:

[Flava]

What new moon? NO full moon! yeah! (well it's new full ok I get it now) LOL
OMG I thought Aries is a girls sign I write it down some years ago and put it to the wrong side !
This is great I never had this lucky month ! Now I just need to O and a bfp! PLZ!

ELP- you got full moon and Aries too? wow that's cool!I have the same calendar lol
I know not everyone is affected by the moon and so and I maybe be not but it makes me feel good anyway.
And it's just feel so good that you guys are happy for me.:awe::hug2:
Anyway tonight we are on again!:owl:
I told DH to get a monster drink so he wont be so tired and sleepy.:rolleyes:
Hope it's works! he never drink one before but I read that others used it so...

[ELP]

LOL, thats what I meant!! Full moon, full moon!!!:oops::rofl:
And it is just nice having that little extra bit of something covered isn't it:) I wonder what the solar flares are doing? while we're being random:bigsmile:

[ELP]

:omg:
I wonder what the solar flares are doing? while we're being random:bigsmile:THEY ARE MASSIVE!!!!!! Well the biggest I've ever seen it show lol!!! So thats your ions covered if you believe in that aswell!!!!!!I'll keep an eye over the next few days but we want to see lots of red!!:agree: Mine were low green!
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html

[Flava]

I have no clue about solar flares at all. Looks like today is yellow? What is that? But I may O tomorrow or after that no color for that days yet. Ohhh I really hope tomorrow because the day after is taurus at 20:24 pm. Ok I can O before 8 pm !LOL
Anyway at least for sure in full moon !
It's not like I believe in ions much Im just happy for the moon because it never happened before . (for me)
But the bio chart is all girl !:rofl:

[Flava]

Funny about this bio chart if you look at charts that show the whole month it's all red.But there are charts that shows day by day and the you got all the colors every day.
So I guess I don't care about biorhythm.

[Alexis2007]

Flava-I may be Oing today/tomorrow as well! Hope this full moon/solar flares are good for both of us to get our BLUE BFP!!!

So, I got my +opk this morning at 10am and a temp drop. Hoping today is my O day! We dtd yesterday morning, will tonight, and (depending on temp tomorrow morning) will tomorrow night too! Yay!

Question: anyone ever get only one +opk and have that be on O day? I'm just curious with my opk today AND my temp drop (at my usual O temp). Usually my opk is + for one or two days before O? I guess I'll know for sure tomorrow with whatever my temp is!

[LolaInLove]

Hey gals, had a really busy weekend and could barely pop on.

WP, I am so sorry about the chemical, honey. It sucks and I hate how it gets your hopes up for a few days. I hope you are doing ok, girl. xxxxxxxoooooooo

Flava, hope your bding has gone well and you are feeling confident about your try!

Tink, did you get any answers about your crazy AF? I would also recommend taking the baby aspirin in the 2ww if that is the case. My doc has had me on that in the 2ww for a while. I have a very un-clotty AF now myself. So, trying soon eh?

How's everyone else doing?

So yea, I had AF come on Saturday, it was not cool. I am fine, just each month that goes on makes me slip deeper into a WTF/hopeless mentality. But, DH did the SA this morning, so we'll have the results on Friday I think. And poor guy, right when he was about to get it done after I left for work, I got a call from DD2's teacher saying she barfed all over the place and he had to go get her (he's off on Mondays), so he had to do his "business" while she was there watching tv and go with him to drop it at the lab. I am sure he just loved toting a little carton of jizz around while with her. LOL

And I'm on Clomid round 3 now, starting today. Let the hot flashes begin again. Know what is weird though, some mom at the studio asked me if I was pg yesterday, and I told her no, but I was on a "fertility" diet that is making me gain weight. She goes on to tell me that she has two teenage kids, and then had 5 m/c and ttc for like 4 years in between, and then she got pg when they weren't trying and had dropped the Clomid and were really giving up, and then got pg AGAIN the month after she was born!!! There girls are 10 months apart, crazy huh? Anyway, she didn't give me the whole "just stop trying and relax" bullcrap, but just said that you never know when it will happen, but if you give up, you have no chance. She made me feel better.

Anyway, I am busier than a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest at work now, so I will try to stay up with everyone when I check in in the morning!!!

[LolaInLove]

So, I got my +opk this morning at 10am and a temp drop. Hoping today is my O day! We dtd yesterday morning, will tonight, and (depending on temp tomorrow morning) will tomorrow night too! Yay!

Question: anyone ever get only one +opk and have that be on O day? I'm just curious with my opk today AND my temp drop (at my usual O temp). Usually my opk is + for one or two days before O? I guess I'll know for sure tomorrow with whatever my temp is!

I checked out your chart....I think you gotta wait and see what your temp is like tomorrow. Sometimes the O day temp is a slight bit higher than the drop. Mine usually drops the day before I O, and then is like midrange on O day. But, you are dtd plenty, so you'll cover it! I wouldn't worry about it too much. GL!!!!

[Flava]

WOW Alexis this is so cool!!! I did not get a +opk yet but have a very small temp drop today. I will test tonight again so we see if I get one. I feel like Im testing forever here! Look at my chart lol and because it's the monitor and the smiley test it's a lot's of $ !:sigh: but I just can't read the cheap test strips.

I looked back my charts and I get a + before O day and a peak on the monitor .

[Flava]

Lola- big hugs to you! I said this before but now I really really hope you get that bfp this next try!!! And DH test comes back ok!

[Flava]

Im also having small O pains for 3 days now.:sigh: Dont know what kind of O is this but I sure hope it's comes tomorrow or latest after that.

I guess the BD on CD 11 don't even matter because it's at least 6 days before O or more. Right?

We do every other day so if cd11 is out the this will be second bd tonight.
IF I O tomorrow I would love to try again but I scared of low sperm count if we do only 24 hours apart. We need 24 right??

Ummm sorry if I post too much about my problems here! Im just so nervous and scared and would love to have some help.

[cemas]

Alexis, these past couple months i got a smiley only one time and no more. like +ve in morn and -ve in afternoon....or
+ve afternoon and -ve in eve....and i seem to O the next day of after that only.

[begonia]

Anyway, she didn't give me the whole "just stop trying and relax" bullcrap, but just said that you never know when it will happen, but if you give up, you have no chance. She made me feel better.


You know, I like her ... even if she did ask if you were pg, I forgive that bc she does make an excellent point. KUP on DH, poor fella ... and poor DD! Hope you all stay well and she feels better soon!

Flava you keep posting, whatever gets you through! It is super stressful to finally have an attempt after planning it for months, I know. FX you get your BFP this month with all you have going for you! I would say 24 hours apart is a minimum for waiting it out, yes ... my 2x were 24 hours apart... though ELP, didn't you do an am and pm bd? I think so. And I agree that the BD on CD11 is unlikely to be the swimmer that gets you pg! Just keep checking those OPK and keep us posted!

Yay for that OPK Alexis! I normally get 2 days but oddly enough the cycle I got pg was when I got only one ... +opk at 2pm and 6pm, -opk the next am. I'm pretty sure I o'd overnight.

[Hobbermittens]

Flava, how awesome that you will O during the full moon AND an Aries moon! Good luck tonight!

Lola, it is nice when people say things that are reassuring... especially when they have been through what you are going through. So don't give up hope! Oh and I hope your DD feels better soon, and keep us posted on the SA! Poor DH having to do his business with DD in the next room... that would be less than relaxing!

Alexis, good luck with your attempt!

Can someone tell me more about the moon? Is it boy territory from full moon on, or leading up to the full moon?

[Flava]

hobber- from the day before full moon till the day before new moon is boy friendly.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, Hobber. I know, poor DH. He was not that excited about the SA in the first place. You know you can't use any lube to help out there....I can imagine it's not nearly as easy or fun to do it "dry," kwim!

About the moon, I think it is the whole phase, which started last night and lasts till the 26th. You know you are a huge nerd swayer when you have a moon phase app on your phone.

[Hobbermittens]

About the moon, I think it is the whole phase, which started last night and lasts till the 26th. You know you are a huge nerd swayer when you have a moon phase app on your phone.

Well, It appears I will O next month in the Waxing moon (from new moon until full moon) which I think is a girl phase, right?:sigh: So annoying. The only thing that makes me feel better is, I looked up when I conceived my son, and it was the same phase. Plus I *think* he was conceived in a pisces (female) moon as well (not totally sure, because I can't find my charts from that time).

There are too many factors!!!!!! Why can't we just take a magic pill and get the gender we want?!?!?!?

p.s. if I had a phone that had apps, I would totally get the moon one!!

[Tink18]

with all the moon talk..where can i figure out this stuff for me. Im do to O on the 23rd if all goes well. its game object! Im nervous and excited..hope it all goes well.