Frakkin' February 2WW

[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats again, Wantanother!

February is off to a great start! Let's hope it continues!



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[maximbella]

Shan, thank you so much!

Robin, fingers crossed for you...

wantanother, congrats!!!!

[Butterflies buttercups]

Excellent want another ! We're both the same almost I think I'm 12po I worked out !

I've worked out my due date already hope this is it for us! Xxx


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[Pbn3]

Woohoo wantanother!!!! 🎉🎉🎉 that's a great line!!!

Thank you shannshaff!

I'm about to get up to poas. Laying here hesitating as I was 9dpo when I got my bfps for the last three pregnancies and I really don't want to see a bfn even though that's what I'm expecting lol. Will put my big girl pants on shortly and get it over and done with. This is my chart...

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[Pbn3]

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[Pbn3]

Bfn :(

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[Butterflies buttercups]

Pbn3 I hope you're using a frer like u told me !
Also wehere about in the world are u as it's best to use FMU isn't it really when your early?

Also as u prob already know 9dpo is very early so hang in there ! X


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[Pbn3]

Yep I'm an frer addict buttercups lol! And I'm in Australia so its early morning here. Used fmu but it still looked quite diluted so I'm going to buy some more frers today so I can test later because I'm in denial that its a bfn 😂😂
Edited to add: I shouldn't be expecting anything different though as I've never gotten pregnant from anything other than a 1-o attempt but what we did was all we could between me being away and hubby doing night shifts. Plus I feel ancient which would make my husband fossilized 😂😂😂
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[Butterflies buttercups]

Go for it ! It would be fab if u got a bfp too that will be three of us then so just keep testing !

Ive got another one to use tommorow with my fmu - fingers crossed the lines will get darker . Xx


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[cosmosis]

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that's a good looking chart! :)

You guys are making it difficult for me to not think about testing :D

[Georgia_Peach]

When are you testing cosmo? What dpo are you today?

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[cosmosis]

all this mild cramping...must.refrain.from.symptom.spotting.


When are you testing cosmo? What dpo are you today?

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I'm either 6,5 or 4dpo LOL! I marked my O day as CD17 (late CD17, early CD18), so I'm waiting 5 more days to begin testing.

[MrsGoodies]

Butterflies,

I can totally see a line on your FRERs. It is compketely possible to have a +FRER and - digital at the same time....it happened to me last pg.

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[Butterflies buttercups]

Thanks so much for that MrsGoodies its reassured me!

it's disheartening seeing those words but hopefully that will change maybe tommorow or the next day - thanks again :)

I've got such bad period pains in my tummy and back very weird not had this before x


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[Pbn3]

Cosmo don't look to me for help restraining from testing 😂😂😂 I'm the red one on your shoulder that whispers 'do it!' in your ear lol!!! I would try and wait however until your at 8dpo from the earliest you think oed because at least you'll know its very possible you oed later so a bfn wont be as disheartening. I think you said you have 25 tests?? Go for it I say if your happy to use a heap!

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[cosmosis]

Cosmo don't look to me for help restraining from testing ������ I'm the red one on your shoulder that whispers 'do it!' in your ear lol!!! I would try and wait however until your at 8dpo from the earliest you think oed because at least you'll know its very possible you oed later so a bfn wont be as disheartening. I think you said you have 25 tests?? Go for it I say if your happy to use a heap!

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haha! XD

Well, I'm not sure how sensitive wondfos are (as in the iu measured) so I'm iffy on going too early. 5 days from today puts me at 11dpo from the earliest possible O and 8dpo from the latest possible O.

hmmmm, decisions decisions.

[foxtrotmama]

I try never to test before 10 DPO, and I try to wait until 12.

CD6 today!

[Pbn3]

Cosmo I'm with you on the telling myself to stop symptom spotting..... every cramp, niggle and ache and my mind immediately jumps to 'implantation!!' I keep telling myself I have felt these very same things other cycles that were bfn lol. In saying that my bbs had this weird aching this morning but only lasted a short while....
Wish I could go to sleep and wake up tomorrow so I can test again 😂

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[netti02]

Pbn i always used to symptom spot too 😂

Looks like af is on her way for me. I think ill use opks this month tor try and track O properly. Im pretty sure my LP isn't 14 days. Hope2the healthy eating and exercise fixes that.

Congrats butterflies 🎉

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[Pbn3]

Netti I remember us pm'ing each other photos of dried pulled apart tests from 7dpo swearing there was the tiniest hint of a line 😂😂

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[Butterflies buttercups]

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Sorry but more tests to show !
It's the same colour as yesterday's hoping it will be pinker tommorow !


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[Butterflies buttercups]

Good luck to all those testing this week il be keeping an eye on it all!


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[MrsGoodies]

No doubt of a line there butterflies!

Congratulations!

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[momamia4]

Congrats butterflies!! :)

FX for you Pbn!!!! <3

AFM, I'm just sitting around taking bcps and thinking it's super weird that I'm doing it when I'm actively ttc. In two weeks (the 24th), I go in for a baseline ultrasound and blood work. Time is definitely dragging!! I'm getting a little worried because the pharmacy hasn't called me yet to pay for my prescriptions. I hate waiting. It's horrible.

[Pbn3]

So good to hear from you momamia!!!! I'm due to o again around the 24-26th February at best guess! Imagine that we'll be cycle buddies!!!😀😀😀 so excited for us!!

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[momamia4]

Yay!!!!! That's awesome!!! How exciting!!! :)

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[cosmosis]

Good morning ladies :)

I had a big temp shift today, but I slept in 1.5hrs accidentally, so I may have to discard it depending on what I see tomorrow :)

I've been very crampy and my boobs hurt alot last night. Its definitely not something I experience until AF is about to arrive. Other than that, no symptoms to spot really.

It turns out that wondfo's are not that sensitive (25iu) so I'm a bit bummed. I may or may not get a box of frers but, like I said, the canadian ones are not as sensitive as the US ones from what I've read.

@butterfly, that's deffo a line right there! Congrats again :)

@maxim, any updates hun?

@Robin, are you testing today?

[maximbella]

cosmo, your chart looks so good! Even if you adjust for waking up early, it's still above the cover line, which is great! I can't wait for you to test! :bluecheer:

Pbn and momamia, fingers crossed for you!

AFM, augh the same...my temp is still low and I'm on CD25, which is the latest that I have ever O'd. I'm starting to wonder if this is an anovulatory month for me? Digi still gives a high reading, not peak. We BD this morning and I also accidentally O'd. I've been SO good about not doing it, but I couldn't help it today.... :shrug:

[Roedinga1]

Hi ladies! I'm new to swaying and beginning the 2ww. We DTD on CD16 about an hour after a positive OPK that evening (negative that morning). I did OPKs morning and night CD17 and CD18 - all negative. Negative OPK the morning of CD19. I had my usual O symptoms all day on CD19 bloating, EWCM and some intermittent twinges on my right lower abdomen. THEN I got another positive OPK the evening of CD19 when I thought I had already or was currently ovulating?!?! Not sure what that's about? Please explain if you can.

My temps are leaning toward confirming an ovulation on CD19 (my norm O is between CD19 and 20). I need one more high temp tomorrow morning to confirm.

So I'm working with a 10-11 day abstain, about a 3 day cut off and one attempt for a girl sway. We currently have 2 perfect little boys, ages 5 and 2! Both were conceived on first month tcc. I should also throw in that we "accidentally" conceived in august of 2016 which was 5 days before O (I didn't think I was fertile yet). However, that pregnancy ended in miscarriage and D&C. My worry is another unhealthy baby related to the long abstain and the cut off. I just felt like we needed to DTD after that positive OPK on CD16 and I didn't want to do another attempt and lose that one attempt portion of the sway. FYI I am 33 and DH is 33.

The 2ww suspense is killer...I'm CD21 today. Approximately 2DPO



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[cosmosis]

cosmo, your chart looks so good! Even if you adjust for waking up early, it's still above the cover line, which is great! I can't wait for you to test! :bluecheer:

Pbn and momamia, fingers crossed for you!

AFM, augh the same...my temp is still low and I'm on CD25, which is the latest that I have ever O'd. I'm starting to wonder if this is an anovulatory month for me? Digi still gives a high reading, not peak. We BD this morning and I also accidentally O'd. I've been SO good about not doing it, but I couldn't help it today.... :shrug:

Did it dip, or just the same temp?

[maximbella]

Yesterday was a slight dip, today a bit higher, but still in line with other temps. Can I add in that I absolutely hate this cycle? [emoji12]

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[cosmosis]

Hi ladies! I'm new to swaying and beginning the 2ww. We DTD on CD16 about an hour after a positive OPK that evening (negative that morning). I did OPKs morning and night CD17 and CD18 - all negative. Negative OPK the morning of CD19. I had my usual O symptoms all day on CD19 bloating, EWCM and some intermittent twinges on my right lower abdomen. THEN I got another positive OPK the evening of CD19 when I thought I had already or was currently ovulating?!?! Not sure what that's about? Please explain if you can.

It is only the first +OPK that matters. Depending on how much LH your body has, it will take a few hours or a couple of days for all of it to come out so you'll continue to see +OPK's until then. :)






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[Burakoam]

Maxim I've never been unselfish enough to conceive without a big O lol so don't let that be the make or break for a sway as it 100% is not.. I still have all pink ;)

That being said I am thinking this is an annovulatary cycle for you and you will have to decide what to do with that info because from the sounds of it your DH may use that against you to say it's not meant to be. I'd use it to defend myself for a month of trying when I actually ovulate personally..you can also still O and just have a very long cycle.

[Pbn3]

Maxim can you try discarding those false high temps for now... that way the circle will show where it's recorded but won't affect your pattern where you should see a sustained rise hopefully eventually.... are you still testing with cheapie opks as well as digi?

Ps if I don't respond I've fallen asleep lol. Midnight here :(

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[maximbella]

Barukoam, you're reading my mind...swear I was just about to PM you and ask if you O or not with your girls. I honestly cannot remember with both of my DD's.

I have an ob appointment on Thursday and if I haven't O'd by then, what should I ask to do at that point?

I agree that it's looking anovulatory. This isn't normal for me. And yes, I'm going to ask for another month if that's the case... :pray:

[maximbella]

Pbn, good call, here is it with the temps discarded. I'm also doing cheapies and they are def getting lighter.

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[Burakoam]

Maxim see if they will order an ultrasound to see if you have any follicles growing. When I wasn't ovulating (despite solid smileys even) they said both of my ovaries were quiet per ultrasound.. meanings i didn't have anything growing. Depending on the results of the ultrasound and where you live you may get clomid or femara.

[cosmosis]

I say you just keep going e4d regardless and just don't talk about anything with DH. If he asks say you haven't ovulated yet and don't allow the conversation to go further than that. :)

[maximbella]

Barukoam, does an OB do that in office, or do I go somewhere else? I'll definitely ask, thanks for sharing. I don't know where to start....

Cosmo, completely agree with you! The less he knows, the better! I haven't mentioned the Dr appointment yet, either! Hate not being honest....but it's in his best interest! ;)

[cosmosis]

Okay, I'm going to mentally prepare to test in the next 4 days. In the meantime, I want to be sure I decide on one time to test every morning, because I'm type A like that.

I usually get up to pee once in the middle of the night. Last night it was 3 times u_u should I be collecting any of these or do I just wait until I officially get up in the morning and collect that urine?

[maximbella]

I don't know the answer, cosmo, just excited for you!!!

[Roedinga1]

It is only the first +OPK that matters. Depending on how much LH your body has, it will take a few hours or a couple of days for all of it to come out so you'll continue to see +OPK's until then. :)






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Thank you for this! Do you have any idea why they were negative for 2 days in between the two positives? Is that normal?


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[Roedinga1]

It is only the first +OPK that matters. Depending on how much LH your body has, it will take a few hours or a couple of days for all of it to come out so you'll continue to see +OPK's until then. :)






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Thank you for this! Do you have any idea why the OPKs were negative for 2 days in between the two positives? Is that normal?


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[maximbella]

Maybe your body geared up to O the first time and then didn't?


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[Roedinga1]

Maybe your body geared up to O the first time and then didn't?


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I thought about this....
But my temps are supporting O day on CD19 and that second positive was the late evening of CD19.
If the first LH surge was "accurate" then I O'd just shy of 72 hours after the positive OPK.
I'm struggling to make sense of any of it.



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[Burakoam]

Maxim some OB's do those things and some refer you to a Reproductive Endocrinologist. it all depends where you live. My sister in law lives in texas and her OB was willing to do all of her care even preconception..they did blood work semen analysis, ultrasounds, etc. Here in iowa i had to be referred out.

[foxtrotmama]

I would use whichever urine is likely to be the longest hold. So if you're asleep from 12-4 and you know you'll be up at 6:30 and pee then too, I'd collect the 4 AM urine instead of waiting for the 6:30.

[Roedinga1]

Maybe your body geared up to O the first time and then didn't?


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I thought about this...
But my temps are supporting an O day on CD19 and the second positive OPK was the late evening of CD19 and all negatives in between.
So if the first positive OPK was correct, then I O'd just shy of 72 hours after the positive OPK in the late evening of CD16
Does that make sense?


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[Erin514]

Good morning ladies :)

I had a big temp shift today, but I slept in 1.5hrs accidentally, so I may have to discard it depending on what I see tomorrow :)

I've been very crampy and my boobs hurt alot last night. Its definitely not something I experience until AF is about to arrive. Other than that, no symptoms to spot really.

It turns out that wondfo's are not that sensitive (25iu) so I'm a bit bummed. I may or may not get a box of frers but, like I said, the canadian ones are not as sensitive as the US ones from what I've read.

@butterfly, that's deffo a line right there! Congrats again :)

@maxim, any updates hun?

@Robin, are you testing today?

Cosmo, did you see my reply to you a couple pages back? Canadian FRERs are sensitive to at least 7.5 IU (confirmed by blood test the next day in my case).

[cosmosis]

Cosmo, did you see my reply to you a couple pages back? Canadian FRERs are sensitive to at least 7.5 IU (confirmed by blood test the next day in my case).

aack! I must have missed it. That's good to know! Thank you for this <3

[cosmosis]

@Erin, which ones did you buy exactly? I've seen several options at shoppers and well.ca , but I've never purchased frers. I've read ladies don't like the new curved handled ones. Thoughts?

[Erin514]

I bought this one:
https://well.ca/products/first-response-early-result_5626.html
Is that what people mean when they say curved handle? In any case, that's the one that picked up 7.5 HCG for me, so I would say they're even TOO sensitive, lol.

[cosmosis]

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This is the curved one.

[MrsGoodies]

I say you just keep going e4d regardless and just don't talk about anything with DH. If he asks say you haven't ovulated yet and don't allow the conversation to go further than that. :)

Maximbella,

I have to agree with Cosmo on this. The less dh knows the better.

If I announced to my dh YES! I'm about to O. IT'S TIME! He would freak out.

Instead, everytime my dh asked about condoms/withdrawing this cycle i just shrugged my shoulders and told him my opks aren't accurate after miscarriage. He dtd anyways...

[Georgia_Peach]

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My temp today is back up. I had heartburn last night that woke me up. I only get heartburn when pregnant but again I still think it's the progesterone doing all kinds of weird things.
I'm 7dpo today and I tested with frer. Bfn.
Ugh
I know it's still early but I was so hoping I'd get something!

When are you testing cosmo?

Wait.. are we sayinh the curved frer is more sensitive than the normal.ones they sell in canada?

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[Roedinga1]

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My temp today is back up. I had heartburn last night that woke me up. I only get heartburn when pregnant but again I still think it's the progesterone doing all kinds of weird things.
I'm 7dpo today and I tested with frer. Bfn.
Ugh
I know it's still early but I was so hoping I'd get something!

When are you testing cosmo?

Wait.. are we sayinh the curved frer is more sensitive than the normal.ones they sell in canada?

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Could the dip possibly be implantation? Fingers crossed for you!


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[cosmosis]

@Robin, it isn't progesterone that causes these issues, it is estrogen :D this is why many women report very loose stools right before AF, during AF or in early pregnancy. This also contributes to heartburn, flatulence and other digestive discomforts we experience.

Progesterone increases alot during the 2nd trimester and that's when constipation begins for most pregnant women. This is generally speaking, because there are other factors that can contribute to this.

Your temps going back up can be a good sign, and yes 7dpo is too soon to test lol. Did we end up ovulating like a day apart? I'm 6dpo or 7dpo today.

[cosmosis]

Oh and as far as the curved frers, I was just pointing out that they are not very liked by many women, something about indent lines. No idea. I don't know if they are different in sensitivity or not, but I'd like to try the originals lol.

[Georgia_Peach]

@Robin, it isn't progesterone that causes these issues, it is estrogen :D this is why many women report very loose stools right before AF, during AF or in early pregnancy. This also contributes to heartburn, flatulence and other digestive discomforts we experience.

Progesterone increases alot during the 2nd trimester and that's when constipation begins for most pregnant women. This is generally speaking, because there are other factors that can contribute to this.

Your temps going back up can be a good sign, and yes 7dpo is too soon to test lol. Did we end up ovulating like a day apart? I'm 6dpo or 7dpo today.
Haha I just Google these things and it told me that heartburn is from progesterone!
So if I use a clearblue digital advanced ovulation test ... would it show a smiley face then if I'm producing estrogen? 🤔
I have some left I could try

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[Nurseandi]

In my 2ww! On CD15 now, I think I'm ovulating today. My mittelschmertz is bad, lol! I suppose I will be anxious and start testing at 10-11 dpo.

Baby dust to all of you!

[Burakoam]

high estrogen in the 2ww as long as it is balanced with a good amount or high progesterone is good. It can be an early sign your body is trying to sustain 'something' because both of those hormones will be much higher than they are when not pregnant the whole pregnancy and fluctuate throughout. I dont know that it will pick it up on the OPK only because once you get a solid the internal state of the OPK should reset and will read your first test as a 'baseline' of hormones meaning you are more likely to get a low result and then another day you may get high if your estrogen is continuing to rise..but careful with those OPK's because you could also get a solid smiley from early early early HCG that will totally throw you off...LOL test reads HCG just like it does LH in your urine. it cant distinguish which is which.

eta: as someone who experienced first response 12 some years ago when they were still brand new pregnancy tests and technology i just want to add that i hate the curved handle ones too. I feel they are less sensitive actually. I know what the box and personal experience states and god knows i took one along with my digital this last BFP but i still hated that ANY digital could have such a for sure "YOU ARE PREGNANT YAY" and the curved handle FRER was a line SOOO squint worthy that if i had relied just on that i would have 100% not believed i was pregnant. It did look like an indent line, and i think thats why people dislike them. That and the fact the old ones caught the low levels of HCG and lines got VERY dark very quickly..i feel like they made the tests so they dont do that anymore. the test line is seemingly ALWAYS very light

[cosmosis]

Haha I just Google these things and it told me that heartburn is from progesterone!
So if I use a clearblue digital advanced ovulation test ... would it show a smiley face then if I'm producing estrogen? ��
I have some left I could try

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You always produce estrogen, it just rises and falls. Same goes for progesterone. During a regular cycle, your estrogen begins to slowly rise leading up to ovulation. Then it slowly goes back down and progesterone takes over for a couple of weeks. If there is no pregnancy, then progesterone begins to drop and that's when digestive issues may occur. Finally it drops drastically (even lower than the already low estrogen) and AF arrives. Then the cycle begins again.

During early pregnancy, both estrogen and progesterone begin to rise and continue to rise steadily throughout the pregnancy and then everything drops upon delivery.

It is when estrogen is higher than progesterone that we feel all the discomfort like digestive issues, sore breasts, PMS and so forth.

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I personally always get very loose stools a few days before O and then again a couple of days before AF. I can tell where I'm at in my cycle with my BM's alone lol.

I'm unsure that the tests will tell you anything. Unfortunately this is just a waiting game u_u.

[Erin514]

34842

This is the curved one.

Oh wow! I've never seen that kind, it's definitely curved! Think I'll just stick with my straight FRERs since they've been sensitive for me.

[XXforhubby]

I can attest that they are not as sensitive as the flat ones. On 10dpo in the evening, I got faint lines on a curved FRER and a Wondfo. The next morning with FMU, the lines on both were definitely light pink. I will say it didn't look like an evap line- it looked like a faint pink line the night before.

The stores here in the US don't carry the flat FRERS anymore by themselves. Instead, they are sold in a package with their digital test and there is only one of each in the package [emoji20].



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[cosmosis]

Alright, so what do you classify stringy+lotiony white CM? There is no snot option on FF. :think:

[Burakoam]

Alright, so what do you classify stringy+lotiony white CM? There is no snot option on FF. :think:

:giggle::giggle:

Its creamy. some creamy breaks easy and some is a little more stretchy but not like EWCM..you just have fertile creamy CM...your descriptions are spot on cosmo :giggle:

[momamia4]

Alright, so what do you classify stringy+lotiony white CM? There is no snot option on FF. :think:
:rofl: I always make a note that says "snot-like cm." I think it's hilarious that you think it looks the same as I do. Lmao!

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[Shannshaff]

lol..yup - creamy cm Cosmos. :) I think we need to have FF make a snot option :rofl:

[XXforhubby]

I seriously laughed so hard at this, Cosmosis! When I first started charting, I googled "snot-like" cm and learned it was creamy. Seriously, who termed it creamy? That would not be my definition! EWCM is very specific in its description, yet creamy seems like it should be diffuse- like cream. Snot/lotion-like is anything but that!

I third FF should have a snot CM option, haha!



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[Pbn3]

Look what I found 😍😍https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/8c7ea753bb3bfb1394efe03be9487b20.jpg

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[Pbn3]

I think I'll order myself one even if I dont get pregnant 😂😂

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[cosmosis]

:giggle::giggle:

Its creamy. some creamy breaks easy and some is a little more stretchy but not like EWCM..you just have fertile creamy CM...your descriptions are spot on cosmo :giggle:


:rofl: I always make a note that says "snot-like cm." I think it's hilarious that you think it looks the same as I do. Lmao!

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lol..yup - creamy cm Cosmos. :) I think we need to have FF make a snot option :rofl:


I seriously laughed so hard at this, Cosmosis! When I first started charting, I googled "snot-like" cm and learned it was creamy. Seriously, who termed it creamy? That would not be my definition! EWCM is very specific in its description, yet creamy seems like it should be diffuse- like cream. Snot/lotion-like is anything but that!

I third FF should have a snot CM option, haha!



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LOOOOOOL! I didn't realize so many of you felt like I did. HAHA! I do wonder who decided to call that creamy.

[cosmosis]

Look what I found ����https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170207/8c7ea753bb3bfb1394efe03be9487b20.jpg

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these are so precious! <D

[maximbella]

Those are so sweet! :)

[Butterflies buttercups]

Morning !
Sorry one last pic for confirmation today!
Finally feels real still in shock - I had so many doubts about my fertility last year when I had HT pretesting and it wasn't great and my husband has low sperm count so we are a bit surprised at this bfp !

Hoping it sticks for us - thanks for your encouragement ladies xx

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[Wantanother2017]

Should I be worried my temp this morning was only 97.5? [emoji15]


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[cosmosis]

Good morning ladies! :)

@butterfly, that's wonderful! I'm so happy for you <3

@wantanother, how close to AF are you and do your temps usually drop this low? If this is abnormal and goes back up tomorrow, then it's probably a bean snuggling in :)

AFM, I adjusted yesterday's temp and with today's temp, it looks like they are settling quite nicely! :) I'm very pleased.

I had a dream that I was darth vader's servant. :rofl:. He apparently had a thing for me and was rather clingy and wanted me to constantly accompany him. Such a big baby LOL!! I have NO idea where that came from, but talk about vivid dreams.


I tested today. :owl: I was hoping for a birthday BFP, but nada. I *think* I can see a shadow of a line there, but nothing that can be captured by any means, I could very well be making it up. Guess we'll have to wait till tomorrow and try again.

Most of the charts I'm comparing mine to on FF get BFP's at 10/11dpo . Not sure what got into me, but here we go LOL.

[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats Butterfly! It's for real!!!

Wantanother- can you post your chart? Without seeing today's temp in relation to the others, it is hard to give you any feedback.

Cosmosis- I hope you get a positive on the next couple of days! Your dream made me laugh! I too have been having vivid dreams about random, off the wall things!



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[Erin514]

Line eye helpers, please. I think I see a shadow, but it's so faint I'm clearly grasping here. Pink or evap? Picture was taken within the 10 minute mark. I'm maybe 9dpo or less, since I had multiple pos OPKs I'm not sure.
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[Nurseandi]

Line eye helpers, please. I think I see a shadow, but it's so faint I'm clearly grasping here. Pink or evap? Picture was taken within the 10 minute mark. I'm maybe 9dpo or less, since I had multiple pos OPKs I'm not sure.
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I don't see a line. But my eyes sometimes miss them!


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[Roedinga1]

Line eye helpers, please. I think I see a shadow, but it's so faint I'm clearly grasping here. Pink or evap? Picture was taken within the 10 minute mark. I'm maybe 9dpo or less, since I had multiple pos OPKs I'm not sure.
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I'm not an expert but I believe I see a very faint pink line. Ive, personally, had tests that started like that and progressed to obvious BFP! FX


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[Butterflies buttercups]

I do see a line ! Mine was a proper squinter and then bam the next two days definately there ! So keep testing xx


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[Wantanother2017]

False alarm! I took it at 3:50 or some crazy time I had to get up and pee, fearing getting out of bed would mess it up. Just retook it and it was 98.5! [emoji1374]

I've just been having a really hard time believing this is real because I've dreamed of an October baby for so long! And I'm having lots of cramping, which I don't remember last time.


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[Wantanother2017]

Erin, I can see a faint shadow when I zoom out! [emoji1380]


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[Georgia_Peach]

Line eye helpers, please. I think I see a shadow, but it's so faint I'm clearly grasping here. Pink or evap? Picture was taken within the 10 minute mark. I'm maybe 9dpo or less, since I had multiple pos OPKs I'm not sure.
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I see a line! 😊

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[cosmosis]

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I believe I see something there. :)

[momamia4]

Erin, I think I see a hint of a line. :)

Wantanother, did I already say congratulations? I don't remember. Congratulations! :)

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[Butterflies buttercups]

Wantanother2017 I'm also having cramping it has eased off a little now but the past 5/6 days I have had them quite bad which I don't remember before and I also have no other symptoms ! Something else to worry about !

Yes we will have October babies yay! My other two are May and August so perfect for me x


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[Wantanother2017]

Wantanother2017 I'm also having cramping it has eased off a little now but the past 5/6 days I have had them quite bad which I don't remember before and I also have no other symptoms ! Something else to worry about !

Yes we will have October babies yay! My other two are May and August so perfect for me x


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Let's just pray our march 6 appointments go smoothly!! [emoji170][emoji1374]


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[cosmosis]

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Just because I can't help myself. XD I'm totally seeing things. Ignore the fingerprints. I wiped off permanent marker right before I put these together.

[maximbella]

Erin and Cosmo, I think I see something on both. Looking forward to next few days for you both!!

I'm feeling down today, ladies. I've had it with this cycle. Low temps again and another high, no peak, reading on digi. I'm supposed to go to ob tomorrow, but we are expecting a snow storm and I'm sure it will get cancelled. I feel like it's one thing after another. Just needing to vent... [emoji17]

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[Erin514]

I really can't tell if I see a line on your hpt or not Cosmo. I'll be stalking for an update, though!

[Burakoam]

Erin I see one on yours. I don't think it's an evap!!

Cosmo- if those are the 25 mlu wondfo HCG tests I don't think they will pick up a baby this early into your DPO..I don't like the line to line pictures like that because it messes with my eyes and eventually a line starts to transfer over for me that isn't actually there lol... however that being said there MIGHT be a tiny shadow there

[Wantanother2017]

I have the same Wondfo ones and they are still barely showing anything for me on 14 dpo!


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[cosmosis]

Well, I'm not shopping for frers untill 11dpo if I am getting BFN's then :nyd:

I totally took another one an hour ago to compare and it is stark white. I'll do two more FMU's and on 10dpo I'll start doing morning and late evening urine.

From what I've read, wondfo's can pick up quite early(even though they supposedly measure 25iu), but they don't progress very well. So they don't get super dark for a while. I have 9 more days of waiting, so I need some entertainment lol.

[Shannshaff]

Erin- I see the line and I usually don't see the squinters.

Cosmo - I don't see a line on yours, but it is WAY early.

Wantanother - I would stop temping NOW! PG can mess with your temps. It can go up and down and will just cause you to worry. Enjoy being pg :)

Mama - I have my fingers crossed for you for the end of the month.

Butterfly - wonderful digi pic. :) beautiful words to see.

Max - sorry you are having suck a rough time with this cycle. HUGS. Praying that your appointment is not cancelled and you can get some answers.

AFM - I will start the E4Ds today or tomorrow and start the OPKs again. But I am not expecting much. At least I am starting to exercise again and going to give the diet my all for the next few months. I have been slacking, but today made a decision that I need to do this for me and no one else. :) I will not be trying ttoo had to get a BFP this month as it would put my due date right around DS2s birthday and that is a CRAZY time of year. But I will not skip the month either.

[Wantanother2017]

Ok!!! I'll try to stop. I did for 2 days but I just can't accept that life has granted me my long awaited October baby. It can't be real. It's all I've talked about for a year! [emoji16]
Surely there is no way it can ALSO be my first and only daughter as well. No one gets that lucky?!

Cosmosis, that's been my experience with the Wondfos. Faint line in 9dpo then a tad darker even through today.


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[Burakoam]

If you guys are going for pregnancy progression on those tests please stick with the clearblue with weeks estimator since that will show you when your HCG is going up..the line tests get scary once that decently dark BFP has already been seen because lots of things alter the lines including just a bad batch of tests, over hydrated etc...the lines will tell you nothing...seeing the weeks go from 1-2 to 2-3 and 3+ is extremely reassuring as your numbers have to hit certain limits to reach those ranges :) Ahhh..technology ;)

[Burakoam]

Well, I'm not shopping for frers untill 11dpo if I am getting BFN's then :nyd:

the "no you didnt" smiley is killing me cosmo. you know i dont like to rain on a parade (though i seem to do it alot lol) DONT GIVE ME THAT FINGER!!! :giggle:

[Butterflies buttercups]

Thank u shanshaff xx


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[Pbn3]

Erin I can see it!!!!! 🎉 🎉 can't wait for tomorrows test!!

Afm I'm out :( temp dropping and af due on the weekend. Should be oing again last week of February. Good luck to those waiting to test!! I'll be watching!!
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[XXforhubby]

Erin I can see it!!!!! [emoji322] [emoji322] can't wait for tomorrows test!!

Afm I'm out :( temp dropping and af due on the weekend. Should be oing again last week of February. Good luck to those waiting to test!! I'll be watching!!
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Boo! I'm hoping the witch stays away!!

FX so hard for you!!



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[maximbella]

Pbn, I think I'm with you...

[Pbn3]

Do you see your ob today maxim? You're going to ask for an ultrasound? How are you cheapie opks looking? So frustrating when your cycle goes haywire, I really feel for you :(

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[maximbella]

Do you see your ob today maxim? You're going to ask for an ultrasound? How are you cheapie opks looking? So frustrating when your cycle goes haywire, I really feel for you :(

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No, my appointment is supposed to be tomorrow but we are getting a snow storm so I'm certain it will get rescheduled. My opk's are getting lighter, it's just not my month. I honestly think all the stressing and pressure from this being our one shot just either delayed my O big time, or I'm just having an anovulatory cycle this month. I'm not sure yet, but will just keep temping, opk's and dtd e4d until af comes. So disheartening. [emoji17]


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[Wantanother2017]

Fun Fact: I just ordered online $75 worth of my favorite organic chocolates and peanut butter cups. That what 8 months on the LE diet will do to a girl.
FX for the rest of us that well are all get our BFPs very soon!
(And don't give ourselves gestational diabetes in the process) 🤣


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[Wantanother2017]

So sorry you're experiencing this crazy cycle Maxim. [emoji1374]
What's your BD pattern?

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[maximbella]

So sorry you're experiencing this crazy cycle Maxim. [emoji1374]
What's your BD pattern?

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Thanks! Planning e4d but my DH travels for work, so it's going to be the closest variation to that as possible.


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[momamia4]

So sorry Pbn! :(

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[Pbn3]

Maxim, would save your digis now and start using them again if your cheapies start increasing in colour again and I'd just test the once a day with them. Could end up being very expensive otherwise. Can you post a pic of your chart again please?

Wantanother I just lol'd at your order 😂😂 enjoy when they arrive!!

Thanks momamia :) the up side is we'll be in the 2ww together 😀

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[MiaMelb]

Sorry you're cycle is all over this place Maximbella, so hard not to stress when you just want things to happen so badly. If you keep BD as close to e4d as you can you never know what could happen.

[Wantanother2017]

Thanks! Planning e4d but my DH travels for work, so it's going to be the closest variation to that as possible.


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Good, I think that's wise. Especially with cycle troubles. I've tried one attempt on in the other months and this time upped my attempts and so far so good. FX!


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[Roedinga1]

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So I'm only 4DPO but I had a pretty decent shift in my temp this morning. Is this good, bad or not mean much at this point?



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[Pbn3]

Hi Roe! That certainly is a lovely spike however its really only the from 6dpo onwards that mean much. In saying that I'd be pretty excited to see that on my chart lol, have you been temping long?

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[Roedinga1]

So I've been temping on and off for over a year. Never actually ttc but trying to get to know my cycle. This chart was from last month. I had a spike at 4DPO here too so I'm not getting my hopes up I guess.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/b41391aa475d4b0dfff5fb33cd60d712.png

I didn't end up temping august through October because I got pregnant (5 days before O, thinking I wasn't yet fertile...well I was on vaca so I wasn't thinking at all [emoji15]). That ended in m/c and d&c mid October. But here is my chart from that pregnancy.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/288b5fd7c12129755d5b4a44d3c0bcf3.png

This is our first month actually ttc.


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[Pbn3]

Wowsers!! That spike certainly seems the norm for you!! Cant wait to see how your chart looks in a weeks time! When do plan to start testing?

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[Roedinga1]

I have no idea! Thoughts? With my second pregnancy I got a positive 10-11dpo. With this last pregnancy I didn't get a positive until 15dpo and then my HCG was like 5! I knew from the beginning it might not be a healthy pregnancy.


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[Pbn3]

Depends what you test with as in sensitivity.... I wouldn't bother testing before 12dpo with anything other than an frer but that's only my experience... if you have IC's to throw away then start testing whenever you like!! I wish every cycle that I oredered some because I am a poas addict and its quite expensive when you use frers 😕😣😂

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[Roedinga1]

So expensive! I have some wondfos left from august that I can use but I also ordered a 3 pack of frer on amazon that should be here tomorrow. My clear positive with my second pregnancy was with frer at 11dpo. I peed on so many dang sticks with this last pregnancy that I couldn't even tell ya! I know I got a faint positive on either a wondfo or frer and then tried a clear blue digi and it said "not pregnant" and it crushed me. What are you thoughts on getting blood levels checked? My doc said she would order them if I wanted to but it was up to me. I'm wondering if it will just make me crazy.


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[Pbn3]

Yep it will (make you crazy). I said after two mc's that I wouldn't get bloods as it would just stress me out. Well went and got them done 3rd bfp and found out super early that that pregnancy wasn't going to be viable either. If I'm lucky enough to get just one more bfp I swear to god I will not get bloods nor see my gp or ob until I make it to 7 weeks....

In your case of hpts, if your a poas addict 😉 then go at the wondfo's and save your frers for 10dpo onwards :)

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[Roedinga1]

My goodness. I'm so sorry you've had to go through all of that. I wouldn't wish a m/c on my worst enemy. I so appreciate all of your advice this morning. This site is amazing. Just reading posts and chatting with people in the same position is so comforting and is honestly taking some of the stress out of my 2ww which I (and DH [emoji6]) totally appreciate!


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[cosmosis]

Good morning ladies! :)

@roedinga, the meaning of temperature spikes and dips is subjective to each individual's metabolism and regular patterns. The only dips and spikes that I know for sure can be applied universally are the ones right before and during ovulation as well as implantation, but even then, not everyone gets these. I hope this helps. We will be able to tell more about your chart when you collect more data.

@pbn3, so sorry you have had to experience that <3 I hope you get your much desired sticky bean soon!

AFM, not a whole lot to tell this morning. I got very crampy last night and this morning I instinctively looked for AF signs while I was half asleep. Funny how that works.

I tested this morning and I SWEAR there is a shadow line there. This time it showed up within 5 minutes. It is almost impossible to capture on camera because my phone adjusts for brightness in the exact wrong area and I couldn't wait until sunrise for some natural light haha. You probably won't be able to see it, but I tried my best to capture this properly. Here's an OPK, 8dpo (today's) and 7dpo:

ETA: I removed my original images and uploaded them to countdowntopregnancy.com. See my update here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/2ww-gathering-place/57726-frakkin-february-2ww-63.html#post886264

My chart is looking pretty good I'd say :) I got a cute little dip there and hoping its a bean snuggling in.

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*sigh* I've waited 8 long years for this. Prayers and positive vibes are so welcomed right now <3

[Georgia_Peach]

Good morning ladies! :)

@roedinga, the meaning of temperature spikes and dips is subjective to each individual's metabolism and regular patterns. The only dips and spikes that I know for sure can be applied universally are the ones right before and during ovulation as well as implantation, but even then, not everyone gets these. I hope this helps. We will be able to tell more about your chart when you collect more data.

@pbn3, so sorry you have had to experience that <3 I hope you get your much desired sticky bean soon!

AFM, not a whole lot to tell this morning. I got very crampy last night and this morning I instinctively looked for AF signs while I was half asleep. Funny how that works.

I tested this morning and I SWEAR there is a shadow line there. This time it showed up within 5 minutes. It is almost impossible to capture on camera because my phone adjusts for brightness in the exact wrong area and I couldn't wait until sunrise for some natural light haha. You probably won't be able to see it, but I tried my best to capture this properly. I'm gonna post it on countdowntopregnancy.com so others can tell me I'm seeing things LOL. Here's an OPK, 8dpo (today's) and 7dpo:

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My chart is looking pretty good I'd say :) I got a cute little dip there and hoping its a bean snuggling in.

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*sigh* I've waited 8 long years for this. Prayers and positive vibes are so welcomed right now <3
Chart looks fantastic. Good luck cosmo. 😊

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[Georgia_Peach]

Maxim I am sorry you're having wgat appears to be an anovulitory month. It has happened a few times while ttc this time around.

Congrats to Erin and all the other ladies who look like they have a positive test.

I am 9dpo and tested this morning and I believe it's a BFN.
I go in for blood work next Tues to confirm or deny pregnancy before I stop taking progesterone and then into the clomid cycle.
I am considering going for iui in July if clomid alone doesn't work. We might take a few months off in between... I don't know anymore.
I might take a break.off this site for a while too....
Kinda sucks when you've been trying for over a year and get nowhere yet people try the first month and get pregnant.
Happy for them but still sucks.

Anyway hoping you all have a healthy pregnancy . Fx

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[maximbella]

Pbn and wantanother, thanks. Appreciate your thoughts. Pbn, best wishes for us to be in next months tww with bfp's!

Cosmo, looking so good! Really rooting for you!

AFM, same with temps and digi readings. However, I did get a very early call from my OBGYN that they were closing for snow day so my appt was being rescheduled (as expected), but she could see me now if I drove there immediately. My DH is never in town and thankfully was today, so he is with both DD's and I ran out in pj's....sitting here now waiting! Maybe the stars are finally aligning. [emoji120]

Here's today's chart. I'll keep you posted after the appt.

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[Roedinga1]

@cosmo thank you for the info! I'm desperate for signs I think. As for you, call me crazy but I think I see a shadow there too. I like to think I'm decent a squinters too. I can't wait to see what your test looks like tomorrow! Your chart is looking lovely! [emoji1303]


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[cosmosis]

Maxim I am sorry you're having wgat appears to be an anovulitory month. It has happened a few times while ttc this time around.

Congrats to Erin and all the other ladies who look like they have a positive test.

I am 9dpo and tested this morning and I believe it's a BFN.
I go in for blood work next Tues to confirm or deny pregnancy before I stop taking progesterone and then into the clomid cycle.
I am considering going for iui in July if clomid alone doesn't work. We might take a few months off in between... I don't know anymore.
I might take a break.off this site for a while too....
Kinda sucks when you've been trying for over a year and get nowhere yet people try the first month and get pregnant.
Happy for them but still sucks.

Anyway hoping you all have a healthy pregnancy . Fx

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:bighug: I'm sorry you are feeling so down hun. Sometimes when we allow the emotion to just be and accept it, it goes away faster. I hope your day becomes brighter. Can I have a look at your chart?

[cosmosis]

Pbn and wantanother, thanks. Appreciate your thoughts. Pbn, best wishes for us to be in next months tww with bfp's!

Cosmo, looking so good! Really rooting for you!

AFM, same with temps and digi readings. However, I did get a very early call from my OBGYN that they were closing for snow day so my appt was being rescheduled (as expected), but she could see me now if I drove there immediately. My DH is never in town and thankfully was today, so he is with both DD's and I ran out in pj's....sitting here now waiting! Maybe the stars are finally aligning. [emoji120]

Here's today's chart. I'll keep you posted after the appt.




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Yay! Please update us asap. Does DH know what you went out for?


@cosmo thank you for the info! I'm desperate for signs I think. As for you, call me crazy but I think I see a shadow there too. I like to think I'm decent a squinters too. I can't wait to see what your test looks like tomorrow! Your chart is looking lovely! [emoji1303]


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Thank you for looking! :D I really appreciate it.

[maximbella]

Yes, I told him. Didn't go into specifics, but I'm sure he knows. Less I tell him, the better. OB said nothing special..."can take up to a year blah blah blah." She said to come back in April if I'm not pregnant by then and then she will refer me to a RE. [emoji17]


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[cosmosis]

Ough, how deflating! u_u . Did she have a look for follicles? Look, you ARE going to ovulate, just relax. Go have a spa day or something, it will happen. I firmly believe in "what you resist will persist", sometimes we create self fulfilled prophecies if we place all of our focus on the negatives.

Don't think about DH. Take this one day at a time hun. <3

[cosmosis]

UPDATE: I posted my pic here:

Pregnancy Test Gallery - Image #637698 | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test-gallery/my-pregnancy-test637698)

Their image inverter is the best, that's why I had to add it there. I can clearly see my shadow line on the invert. It looks like an outline of the line. That's good enough for me so early on.

Okay, I'm done for the day. I have lots of chores to keep me totally busy. LOL.

[maximbella]

Ough, how deflating! u_u . Did she have a look for follicles? Look, you ARE going to ovulate, just relax. Go have a spa day or something, it will happen. I firmly believe in "what you resist will persist", sometimes we create self fulfilled prophecies if we place all of our focus on the negatives.

Don't think about DH. Take this one day at a time hun. <3

Great advice, thank you Cosmo!


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[Roedinga1]

UPDATE: I posted my pic here:

Pregnancy Test Gallery - Image #637698 | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test-gallery/my-pregnancy-test637698)

Their image inverter is the best, that's why I had to add it there. I can clearly see my shadow line on the invert. It looks like an outline of the line. That's good enough for me so early on.

Okay, I'm done for the day. I have lots of chores to keep me totally busy. LOL.

I totally see it with the inverter!! My everything is crossed for you!!


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[Wantanother2017]

Pics cosmo!


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[cosmosis]

Pics cosmo!


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This link should take you to the pic : Pregnancy Test Gallery - Image #637698 | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test-gallery/my-pregnancy-test637698)

Let me know if it works for you :)

[Erin514]

Cosmo, I didn't see a line on the regular pic but I think I see something on the inverted image. FX for you!

I took another FRER this morning but it looks EXACTLY the same as yesterday's, which is to say faint shadow that could be evap. I was really hoping there would be a definite line. Not knowing is so hard! Looks like I'll try again tomorrow.

[Erin514]

Maxim, I agree with Cosmo, all the stress of having this be the one month you TTC has probably not done you any favours. I hope you can find a way to relax and hopefully get a shot at catching an egg.

Robin, 9dpo is still early, you're not out yet!

Pbn, are you out for sure this month? :(

[cosmosis]

Cosmo, I didn't see a line on the regular pic but I think I see something on the inverted image. FX for you!

I took another FRER this morning but it looks EXACTLY the same as yesterday's, which is to say faint shadow that could be evap. I was really hoping there would be a definite line. Not knowing is so hard! Looks like I'll try again tomorrow.

Thank you for looking :) it's more like a line in the making so not easy to see. I hope tomorrow's is darker.

I know your frer is the same, but as you already know, hcg doubles every 48 hours or so. You might get a darker one tomorrow :) can't wait to see!

[Roedinga1]

Are there such thing as pregnancy symptoms in the two week wait after implantation? When is the absolute earliest that implantation can take place?


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[Erin514]

Are there such thing as pregnancy symptoms in the two week wait after implantation? When is the absolute earliest that implantation can take place?


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I've read that it can range from 6-12 DPO, with 9 being the average. I've also read that some people believe an implantation that occurs on the extreme end of the range is less likely to be healthy (like 6dpo could be ectopic because that's not enough time to clear the tubes, and 12 dpo could indicate a problem). But since it's hard to pinpoint O and women produce HCG at different levels, I wouldn't worry too much about trying to pinpoint implantation. One woman could produce enough HCG to get a positive very soon after implantation, where another one might take longer to get a BFP, even if she implanted at the same time.

If your question is really "how soon can I symptom spot or poas without being a crazy person", the answer is "right away". ;)

[cosmosis]

Are there such thing as pregnancy symptoms in the two week wait after implantation? When is the absolute earliest that implantation can take place?


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You'd have to be very self aware before you begin TTC. Most women only begin to pay attention during the TWW so every little thing feels like it could be pregnancy related when in fact it happened all along.

That being said, the earliest is said to be 5dpo. I started getting daily cramping from 4dpo till today so far. It's difficult to tell what you could be feeling, but definitely take notes to see if you can spot a pattern :)

[XXforhubby]

Implantation typically takes place between 6-10dpo. That being said, my DS2 was a late implanter around 12-14dpo. I also ovulated later than I had thought with him too.

Most symptoms in the 2WW are hormonal in nature and can be seen in non-pregnant cycles. Ironically the pregnancy where I had the most symptoms was with my DS2. I couldn't get a positive on a hpt until 21dpo despite feeling very pregnant! The rest I had maybe one or two symptoms that could've been due to other factors. This pregnancy I had no symptoms until week 5!

FX and GL to you!



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[Roedinga1]

@erin I think the late implantation theory could be somewhat accurate. With my last pregnancy that ended in m/c in October of 16, I didn't get even a squinter of a positive hpt until 15dpo. I believe I implanted late.

@cosmo I like to think I'm somewhat self aware after tracking my cycles etc for over a year but the mind is a powerful thing! Im sure anything I'm feeling now is my imagination. I'm 4DPO and I feel like a heavy/ache in my lower abdomen. Maybe you could call it crampy?

@xx 21dpo! That's the longest 2ww ever. At least you felt pregnant.

Thank you all for your responses!


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[Butterflies buttercups]

I also felt achey and crampy in my lower abdomen too x


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[cosmosis]

@erin I think the late implantation theory could be somewhat accurate. With my last pregnancy that ended in m/c in October of 16, I didn't get even a squinter of a positive hpt until 15dpo. I believe I implanted late.

@cosmo I like to think I'm somewhat self aware after tracking my cycles etc for over a year but the mind is a powerful thing! Im sure anything I'm feeling now is my imagination. I'm 4DPO and I feel like a heavy/ache in my lower abdomen. Maybe you could call it crampy?

@xx 21dpo! That's the longest 2ww ever. At least you felt pregnant.

Thank you all for your responses!


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In that case, you should have an idea of what is normal is for you.Do you usually get lower back pain this early after ovulation? I don't get lower back pain unless its CD1 and 2 lol. The fertilized egg has to work its way down so maybe the movements cause some cramping. I would think that a fertilized egg is slightly heavier and everything is also in the process of changing and splitting so who knows. There's definitely alot of action so I'm sure we can feel some due to hormones and fluids :)

[cosmosis]

Ough, I have a headache :( I don't normally get headaches, unless there's big hormonal fluctuations.

[Roedinga1]

In that case, you should have an idea of what is normal is for you.Do you usually get lower back pain this early after ovulation? I don't get lower back pain unless its CD1 and 2 lol. The fertilized egg has to work its way down so maybe the movements cause some cramping. I would think that a fertilized egg is slightly heavier and everything is also in the process of changing and splitting so who knows. There's definitely alot of action so I'm sure we can feel some due to hormones and fluids :)

Such good thoughts. Have I mentioned I love this site? [emoji6] I usually don't get any cramps at all until AF has arrived. Sometimes not even until the 2nd day of AF. Time will tell....

FX for all of you ladies!


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[cosmosis]

Such good thoughts. Have I mentioned I love this site? [emoji6] I usually don't get any cramps at all until AF has arrived. Sometimes not even until the 2nd day of AF. Time will tell....

FX for all of you ladies!


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Same here. For me to be cramping right now is our of the norm. I cramp the day AF arrives and sometimes a couple of days before, but definitely not 4dpo. It happened last cycle too and I'm certain I had a chemical.

There's little things that only you would know are "symptoms". One of mine are sci-fi type of dreams LOL. With my DD they were more towards the horror side of sci-fi, very creepy. So far, they kicked in at 4dpo in conjunction with cramping lol.

I also dream of this old neighbor that I haven't seen in at least 15 years. I've only dreamed about her in the 2ww of my last cycle and the last two nights. I never even think about her, I had no real attachment to her so it is weird for me. My last 2ww I had alot of dreams about people in my past that I haven't seen or spoken to in at least 10 years.

To others its a bunch of hooey, but not to me haha. I consider my odd dreams a symptom. Maybe they fall under the vivid dream category?

Off to make some tea... I can't stay awake the last couple of days.

[Pbn3]

Cosmo I'm sure I see it!! Can't wait for the next few days tests 😀

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[Burakoam]

I am blind i think cause i just cant see a line cosmo, inverted or not...even if there wasnt a line that doesnt mean there wont be in a few days. Fingers are still crossed for you <3 Its possible with that small dip on 7 DPO that you did implant and its a matter of getting a test sensitive enough to pick up the HCG...are you still using the wondfo's? do you have a CBD WE? or an FRER

[cosmosis]

Who wanted to see a wondfo progression? Obviously this isn't mine, but her 8dpo looks like mine! haha.
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@Pbn3 , thank you for looking. It's a tough one lol.

@Burakoam, thanks for looking hun. I got my mom (who has no clue what she's looking at) to look at the invert for me, otherwise, I wouldn't have believed it either haha. We won't know for sure until the next few days of course.

DH said no fancy tests until my wondfos are clearly positive. I'll try to make a sneak purchase in the next couple of days. I'm gonna skip frers and go straight to CBD's because I won't have any appointments until I'm 16 weeks along more than likely (if I get a BFP) so I'll need those for real progression watch the first 4 weeks.

I'm so bad. If I had gotten a 100 pack of wondfo's, I'd be POAS 4 times per day. Oh maaaaan....

[Burakoam]

its those clear blue digitals that actually read and 'give' us the current range of HCG levels we are at that are the devils! i bought 4 boxes of those with DD3!!! SO EXPENSIVE..i stopped myself at 2 boxes this pregnancy LOL

[cosmosis]

Yeah, they surely know how to get us XD I'm gonna buy two boxes and test once per week. It reads up to 4 weeks right?

[Burakoam]

oh my god your new picture cosmo. omggggg

It reads up to 3+

[Pbn3]

???? What am I missing Burakoam!!!! Cosmo what's going on??????!!!!

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[cosmosis]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I believe she is referring to my profile pic/avatar.

[Pbn3]

Omg! I'm like what!!! A 3+ at 8dpo????? 😂😂😂

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[Burakoam]

Omg! I'm like what!!! A 3+ at 8dpo????? ������

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Cosmo would have to be having triplets or quads LOL

[Pbn3]

Cosmo would have to be having triplets or quads LOL
Hahaha!!!!! That's why I was like 'what's going on!!!!!!!!!' 😂😂

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[cosmosis]

OMG don't even think that. LOOOOL I'd die. XD

[Katt2275]

Hi ladies,

Mind if I join you in the 2ww? DH and I BD last night. I don't track bbt, so I'm not sure if I ovulated yet.

Congrats to those with bfps, and good luck to those of you waiting to test!

[Pbn3]

Hi and welcome Katt! Do you use opks? Or are you doing a bd pattern like e4d? (Assuming you're swaying pink that is)

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[Katt2275]

Hi Pbn3, I do use opks. It registered as peak last night. I am swaying girl, but loosely. We had an unintentional 6 week abstain due to lots of sickness, so I am worried about sperm quality, but hopefully it will be okay. [emoji51]

[cosmosis]

Welcome to our crazy Feb thread! :D are you doing one attempt? looking forward to your results :)

[Katt2275]

Thank you Cosmosis. Yes, We're doing 1 attempt, so I'm hoping it will be O-1 or O-2 to catch the egg.

[MiaMelb]

Your new profile pic Cosmosis is hilarious!!!:rofl:

[XXforhubby]

OMG Cosmosis! I just spit out my water laughing so hard at your profile pic! Thank God I wasn't eating anything at the time- I'm sure I would've choked!

Water spewing out of a nose is not cute, haha!


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[Cbroherd]

I see a very very faint line

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[Katt2275]

Cosmosis, I love your profile pic too! Reminds me of myself. I'm a shameless poas addict. [emoji12]

[Cbroherd]

Can someone guide me little? I am very nervous because it is our first time trying to gender sway and we decided to try the shettles method but after trying I came across this group. I am not ovulating yet but I will in the next few days. We have been dtd every other day because my husbanf works 24 on 24 off shifts and stopped yesterday because I'm supposed to ovulate within the next few days. I don't feel any symptoms as I usually do though. Is there still anything I can do to up my chances for a girl(I have 3 wonderful boys)? I didn't know anything about diets until I started reading all these threads here but my diet had consisted of lots of oj, milk, lime, grapefruits, green beans, spinach, chicken, magnesium, pastries, steamed rice, strawberry yogurt, creame cheese and things like that. I feel that shettles was a bad choice now.

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[Pbn3]

Hi cbroherd! I would switch to e4d (every four days) now which will give you one attempt in your fertile period. So if you last dtd three days ago then dtd again tomorrow then four days after etc - that's if your dh is home... just keep doing e4d until either he goes back to work, af arrives or you get a bfp :) are you using opks to narrow down your lh surge? E4d or one attempt at pos opk is the recommendation for swaying pink.

Diet and one attempt are the biggest factors for swaying pink so I would start the le diet asap. Cardio (at least 60 minutes for 5-7 days/wk) has had really good results too but if you cant commit to sticking to that then couch potato is better. The best results have been from 12+ weeks on the le diet but you may as well start now just in case it takes you a few cycles to conceive. There's a library of links for swaying pink in the 'natural gender swaying' 'ttc girl' section, just have a look through when you get a chance.

And you are right about Shettles - it has been completely debunked. There's also a thread explaining that too :)

Most of all, good luck, all the best and pink dust!! Must be very hard with your dh doing 24 on 24 off shifts especially with 3 kids!!

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[Cbroherd]

So if we last dtd yesterday and before that every other day for about 3 days and I ovulate in 2 days would I wait to do it again in 4 days?
This is my first time using ovulation tests and they've all been one side lighter than the other for about 7 days now.
I've been consistently working out for almost 2 months now watching what I ate but now the le diet since I wasn't ttc until now and it's when my diet went a little weird because I kept hearing different things but now I'm not sure if my diet is right anymore! I still watch what I eat but I've been trying to keep my diet more acidic since that's one thing I heard.
Also I know most of the abbreviations but I've been tying really hard to figure out what after and etc mean!

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[Pbn3]

Not sure where your from and what day it is so I'll explain from my time zone. Today is Friday so if you dtd Wednesday you would bd again Sunday then Thursday and so forth. That's all I meant by after etc - and so on and so on. Alternatively you could wait for your pos opk and you should o between 12-36 hours after. Its not positive until test line is as dark or darker then the control line which I'm sure you already know :) it sounds like your lh hasn't peaked yet. I would make the decision whether to do e4d or one attempt at pos opk and stick with it so its not so stressful...

You can't do anything about how your diet was now so put it out of mind and start le asap, if that's what you want to do anyway. If you've been watching what you eat then you possibly were close to the le diet nutrition limits anyway but unless you were tracking it there's no way to know for sure.

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[Cbroherd]

Thanks for the help it makes so much more sense now! Lol I thought etc meant something else!

One last question (I hope) 😁
So if I were to get pos opk I would bd as soon as that happens right? And I can only do one or the other e4d or as soon as I get pos opk?

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[Pbn3]

Yep that's where most people start :) but if you dtd last night and get a pos opk tomorrow I wouldn't dtd as that would mean two attempts in fertile window ... honestly being your first cycle I'd be more inclined to do one attempt at pos opk.... keep testing and if your unsure whether its pos or not post us a pic in here so we can help :) what opks are you using?

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[Cbroherd]

Yep that's where most people start :) but if you dtd last night and get a pos opk tomorrow I wouldn't dtd as that would mean two attempts in fertile window ... honestly being your first cycle I'd be more inclined to do one attempt at pos opk.... keep testing and if your unsure whether its pos or not post us a pic in here so we can help :) what opks are you using?

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Thank you so much for your help. I've seen nothing but nice, helpful replies here unlike on other places.

I'm using some CVS store brand but I'm thinking about buying some better ones tomorrow morning.

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[Cbroherd]

Thank you so much for your help. I've seen nothing but nice, helpful replies here unlike on other places.

I'm using some CVS store brand but I'm thinking about buying some better ones tomorrow morning.

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[Cbroherd]

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These are some of my tests the last one is from a few hours ago

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[Pbn3]

Yep you look like your getting closer... let us know how tomorrows looks! You can make a decision at pos opk whether you add an attempt or not if its pos tomorrow or the next day :) exciting isn't it! 😀

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[MrsGoodies]

I hate looking at opk lines..... What I usually do is use the cheapies for everyday (2-3x), and when I think I am 'close', i use the same urine on a Clearblue digital.

If I get a smilie I know it is a legit +OPK

I only end up using 1-3 digital sticks this way bc they are soooooo expensive, but worth it.

[Erin514]

I am still getting nothing but the same shadow that was there two days ago. If it were a real line, shouldn't it be at least slightly darker by now (11dpo)? I know I should just wait until AF is late and test then instead of wasting my money on FRERs, but this tiny ghost of a line keeps bringing me back for more abuse. I feel like a crazy person...
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[Pbn3]

I can see a super faint line but it's there for sure. Have you thought of seeing your gp for bloodwork?

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[Erin514]

I can see a super faint line but it's there for sure. Have you thought of seeing your gp for bloodwork?

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I saw her not long ago for bloodwork after a miscarriage in early January, and at that time I had a false positive HPT from leftover hormones (that one was a clear line but I'd had negative wondfos in between so that's why I thought it was a new pregnancy. I went from 7 to 4 HCG at the serial draw two weeks ago, so I don't think there any risk of old hormones causing another false positive now??). But if I go back thinking I'm pregnant and I'm not AGAIN, I will really look like I've lost it. Even typing this I'm seeing that I sound kind of nuts. I'm the hysterical pregnancy lady. I probably need to just treat this like a negative and stop testing. :/

[Pbn3]

Maybe give it 48 hours and test again..... this sucks erin :( I hope you have a clear line in a couple days

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[cosmosis]

I saw her not long ago for bloodwork after a miscarriage in early January, and at that time I had a false positive HPT from leftover hormones (that one was a clear line but I'd had negative wondfos in between so that's why I thought it was a new pregnancy. I went from 7 to 4 HCG at the serial draw two weeks ago, so I don't think there any risk of old hormones causing another false positive now??). But if I go back thinking I'm pregnant and I'm not AGAIN, I will really look like I've lost it. Even typing this I'm seeing that I sound kind of nuts. I'm the hysterical pregnancy lady. I probably need to just treat this like a negative and stop testing. :/

:bighug: I HIGHLY doubt it is the old pregnancy hormones. Do you have any idea as to when you may have implanted? Do you have a chart?

[Cbroherd]

I am still getting nothing but the same shadow that was there two days ago. If it were a real line, shouldn't it be at least slightly darker by now (11dpo)? I know I should just wait until AF is late and test then instead of wasting my money on FRERs, but this tiny ghost of a line keeps bringing me back for more abuse. I feel like a crazy person...
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I definitely see a line. Why don't you try a different test? I always had a clear positive with the cheaper test.

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[Cbroherd]

Yep you look like your getting closer... let us know how tomorrows looks! You can make a decision at pos opk whether you add an attempt or not if its pos tomorrow or the next day :) exciting isn't it! 😀

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So how soon would implantation bleeding occur? I'm only on day 13 of my cycle which puts me right around ovulation. This morning I woke up with spotting and that has never happened before.

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[cosmosis]

Good morning ladies :)

I'm not bothering with the squinter today. I see the shadow but its just impossible to get it on camera. I'll just have to wait to see if it darkens tomorrow at 10dpo.

My cervix is totally hiding now, what gives? I found the craziest CM I've ever seen (for me). It was like pasty white stuff. It reminded me of this:

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Lots of it too.

[Roedinga1]

Good morning ladies :)

I'm not bothering with the squinter today. I see the shadow but its just impossible to get it on camera. I'll just have to wait to see if it darkens tomorrow at 10dpo.

My cervix is totally hiding now, what gives? I found the craziest CM I've ever seen (for me). It was like pasty white stuff. It reminded me of this:

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Lots of it too.

Haha I enjoy your sense of humor. It's early if tomorrow is only 10dpo. Can you talk to me about cervical position in the early days post O?


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[Burakoam]

Cosmo remember me telling you about my cervix and how it hides against my butt right now? ;)

And that is another form of creamy CM cos. The lotions kind that chunks and breaks apart easy

Erin for what it's worth that line is darker to my eyes. I have to squint less to see it.

[XXforhubby]

I get that type of CM when pregnant Cosmosis! I'm hoping that you will get a BFP in a few days!

Erin- I can see something more easily than I could before. I don't think it would still be leftovers from your miscarriage at this point. I can understand not wanting to seem like you're crazy, but I think you should go in for a round of new beta HCG levels. Come clean with them and let them know you have been TTCing and have gotten faint lines on a hpt. Or you can just wait it out. I'm hoping that this is your BFP!

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[Erin514]

Thanks for the encouragement, ladies. I didn't chart because I didn't want to become obsessive about it, but given that I'm obsessing over HPTs now anyway, I really should have.

Cbroherd, I did use a dollar store test yesterday and it was negative (I'm out of wondfos). At CD 13 your spotting wouldn't be implantation but some women do have ovulation spotting.

Cosmo, I hope the progression from "snot" to "paste" is a good sign. :think:

[cosmosis]

Can you talk to me about cervical position in the early days post O?


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Typically, the cervix is low and firm right after Ovulation. That's when estrogen is at its all time low in your cycle and progesterone is rising. Before and during AF, cervix should still be low and firm. That's what I know.


Cosmo remember me telling you about my cervix and how it hides against my butt right now? ;)

And that is another form of creamy CM cos. The lotions kind that chunks and breaks apart easy



Yeah I remember, is it like lost? Mine is so far up, I have to push really hard to make it lower slightly in order to get my finger tips on it. It feels a bit squishy/soft to me.


I get that type of CM when pregnant Cosmosis! I'm hoping that you will get a BFP in a few days!

Elmer's paste CM for the win! :D looooool


Alright, so I'm not going to pretend my hopes are not up by saying "I'm not trying to get my hopes up but...". When purposeful intercourse is happening, hopes are up before ovulation even comes. Now that this is out of the way,

I AM SO TIRED. My tea does nothing for me :( I have 3 cups per day on a regular basis (look, I switched over from coffee, so don't judge me) and it usually perks me right up. I don't drink it for that purpose, I drink it because I make a mean cup of tea and it tastes divine.

Anyway, I noticed I don't feel perky after drinking it for the last 3 days. I get up and want to crawl back in bed. The problem is, I won't fall asleep. Is this what early pregnancy fatigue feels like?

With DD, I slept ALOT my 2nd and 3rd trimester (well, if my back wasn't killing me), but I can't really remember how I felt the first couple of weeks as I was totally unaware.

I am much less symptomatic than I was last cycle. My cramping seems to have subsided. At least I'm halfway through the 2ww. I swear I am so unproductive during this time. haha.

[Shannshaff]

Maybe give it 48 hours and test again..... this sucks erin :( I hope you have a clear line in a couple days

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I agree with Pbn3, Erin. It is time to just wait it out. FX for you!

[momamia4]

Ugh. I'm so freaking frustrated right now!! I just found out that my doctors office still hasn't called in my prescription for the injectables that I'm supposed to be starting in a few weeks!!!!!! Argh!! I've talked to them about this at least 4 times. I think I'm switching RE's if this cycle doesn't work.

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[Burakoam]

Cosmo yeah mine is lost. Doctor found it the other day but that's about it. When I sent that message to you I could only reach mine by sitting and deep squatting and hooking my fingers.. it's a good sign as that's how your body essentially protects and keeps the baby in but every woman is different.. I think mine is tilted to be honest l.. but yours is normally not and still hiding so maybe that's just a pregnant cervix for you :)

That is also how my exhaustion is in all my pregnancies. I have to naoe 1-2 times a day in the first trimester to survive it

[cosmosis]

I got 2 frers. I am ashamed.

[XXforhubby]

Pee on one!!!!!!!!



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[Roedinga1]

I got 2 frers. I am ashamed.

Exciting! When are you testing??


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[cosmosis]

Pee on one!!!!!!!!





:rofl:

I'll save it for tomorrow's FMU. I'm cutting out fluids well early today. This leaves me 3 hours to drink something. LOL.

[Roedinga1]

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I'm over analyzing this morning's dip 5DPO. Probably normal variation? It's slightly above the cover line. Based on past month's charts, I wouldn't call it a norm for me. Talk me off the ledge ladies, please. It's so early and I'm a total over thinker. CLEARLY!


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[Pbn3]

Roe I think its possible you may only be 4dpo or less.... can you post a pic of your chart in a few days? I'd like to see what your temps do in that time.

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[Butterflies buttercups]

Good luck cosmosis stalking for update tommorow fmu!


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[Roedinga1]

I will definitely do that. I'm almost positive of O on CD19 due to my typical bloat, right side (this month) twinges/pain and tons of EWCM. Appreciate your insight!


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[Pbn3]

Ugh. I'm so freaking frustrated right now!! I just found out that my doctors office still hasn't called in my prescription for the injectables that I'm supposed to be starting in a few weeks!!!!!! Argh!! I've talked to them about this at least 4 times. I think I'm switching RE's if this cycle doesn't work.

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Grrrr!!! What a pain in the butt momamia!! Will you have them in time?

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[Pbn3]

Cosmo can't wait till you poafrer!!!! Did I just create a new ttc abbreviation?? 😂 😂

Cbroherd I agree with erin that you may be experiencing ovulation spotting.

Erin I don't think its leftover hcg being picked up at all. I would just bite the bullet and go in for bw (as in 48 hour bloods), please dont worry about what anyone thinks as chances are they're not thinking anything! I think we *think* too much sometimes lol! Least then you'll have an answer xx

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[Pbn3]

Roe did you have any other attempts after cd16?

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[Roedinga1]

Roe did you have any other attempts after cd16?

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Nope. It's our first month ttc #3. I wanted to give the long abstain and one attempt sway tactics a fair shot this month. I never use OPKs so I got the smiley on the evening of CD16 and panicked so we BD that night and I ended up ovulating CD19 which is my typical O day anyway. I will sometimes O CD20 but 19 is my average.


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[Erin514]

Well, I'm out. AF just started. :(
Thanks for all your advice, everyone. I'll be poas again in March and stalking here for updates from those of you still testing until then. FX!

[Roedinga1]

Ughh! So sorry to hear that Erin. FX for you for next month! Thanks for the advice and support!


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[Pbn3]

Sorry erin :( are you going to test in a couple days anyway? I've seen so many people on here bleed but still end up pregnant - that was def a line on your test

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[cosmosis]

I'm sorry Erin :( <3 I was thinking the same as Pbn3. You sure it is full on AF?

[cosmosis]

*sigh* I'm not feeling as hopeful for some reason. I'm expecting a bfn in the morning u_u I should have waited to START testing tomorrow lol.

[Roedinga1]

I'm sending baby dust to all of you ladies!
All the effort, hope and waiting. This is so so hard. Chin up girls. I feel so thankful to have found this site and to not have to go it alone this time.


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[Erin514]

Omg, don't tempt me. If AF can't stop me from diverting my sons' college funds to FRERs, nothing can! If the flow is light I will probably test with a dollar store cheapie just in case, but it's more than spotting so I think this will turn into a real period pretty soon.

Cosmosis, I am really hoping you get a BFP tomorrow!

[Pbn3]

Cosmo how many hours till morning where you are? Its only 8.30am here. I want an idea when to start stalking my phone 😎😎

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[cosmosis]

Cosmo how many hours till morning where you are? Its only 8.30am here. I want an idea when to start stalking my phone ����
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LOL! It's 5:38PM here, but I'm an early bird. So I'll be up and POAS about 12 hours from now.

I can barely keep my eyes open.

Is it a bad idea to just collect my two urine samples and dip the frer in the darkest one? I feel like my 1AM urine may be diluted due to evening water etc. I won't know for sure until I see them next to each other.

Does cold urine skew results? Its really cold here.

Don't wanna waste a fancy test and all that :p

[Pbn3]

I'd just use your fmu when you get up for the day. As even if you pee at 1am'ish you won't be drinking anything so your fmu will still be concentrated. Can you post a pic of your chart? You're 10dpo tomorrow?

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[cosmosis]

Yes, 10dpo tomorrow :)

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[Pbn3]

Wow look at those high temps 😀 counting down begins!! Fx so tight for you cosmo! May you be our next Feb bfp!

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[Burakoam]

fingers crossed for you cosmo. make sure you rub the frer before you pee on it for luck LOL jk...i am sure you will have a positive in a day or two with those temps though they are beautiful.

Erin dont waste the money i did see a line but i still think it was left over HCG from the miscarriage..you needed to have a period..now i bet that all even the tiny traces of HCG are out of your system from it and you will have a real genuine chance/attempt this next month.

[momamia4]

So sorry Erin!! :( :bighug:

FX for you cosmo!!

Pbn, I'm so excited to be in the 2ww together! :) I finally got to talk to the pharmacy and my RE sent my prescription to them. They said they they'd be able to overnight it, so I'll definitely have it in time! :)

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[Pbn3]

That's awesome news momamia 😀 now I just need af to arrive, fx for today or tomorrow at the latest!!

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[Pbn3]

Must be getting close to poas time Cosmo! Waiting waiting....

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[Cbroherd]

So I'm still ovulation bleeding and my ovulation tests have been a little weird today one was a little darker and another was lighter. Should I still bd today since I'm spotting but no positive ovulation?

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[MiaMelb]

So I'm still ovulation bleeding and my ovulation tests have been a little weird today one was a little darker and another was lighter. Should I still bd today since I'm spotting but no positive ovulation?

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You are pink swaying correct? Most pink swayers only want 1 attempt in the fertile window, more than this seems to increase the chances of a boy. When was the last time you BD? Pink swayers generally BD every 4 days so if you BD recently then I'd hold off if you're not positive you're ovulating yet. That's just my opinion and I'm no pink sway expert do happy to be corrected.

[Pbn3]

Have you got a pic of the darker opk cbroherd? Also it *may be ovulation spotting but it could also be mid cycle spotting which I've heard of but haven't experienced myself. Agree with miamelb re attempt. I've already forgotten when you bd last sorry.

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[Katt2275]

I'm sorry to hear of your bfn Erin. FX for March!

Good luck Cosmosis!

[Roedinga1]

Help. I took my temp at my normal time this morning and it was 97.88 upon first waking. I thought it was low so I checked it again (which I never do) and it was 98.36 and one more time due to the huge increase and it was 98.43. That's pretty big fluctuations, right? I laid there and googled a little and found that the thermometer needs like 15 min to reset so I did that (without getting up or moving much at all) and my temp is 98.65! Which temp do I take? I would say the first one but it doesn't even come close to being comparable to the others. Thoughts anyone?


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[cosmosis]

Good morning ladies :)

Welp, I got a BFN on my frer. FF changed my O day and now I'm all confuzzled. Here is my chart:

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Here's the deal. CD19 makes sense. A couple of ladies and myself agreed that I O'd CD18. That's also the day I got my first +OPK (which I now marked on the chart). I don't mind all too much if it's CD19 as that still gets me in with 2-3 attempts.

Now, you see the dotted line on CD21? That's the day my thermometer was on celcius and I tried to convert but I don't even think the temp was accurate to begin with. It was 97.81. I do vaginal temps and sometime I don't stick it in far enough (because I'm afraid I'll hurt my cervix) and the temp does get affected when I do that. So, that morning I was preoccupied with getting the thermometer back on Farenheit and it was much too late to re-take the temp.

IF I add the 97.81 my O day gets moved to CD21! I cannot bring myself to believe that I O'd that day. DH also took a 2 day break so it puts us in with a 2 day cutoff. grrrr.

So, what I'm trying to say here is, I'm 9,8 or 6dpo and I highly doubt I can get a BFP right now. The only thing I have going for me are my high temps, other than that, not much else that points to a pregnancy.

All input is appreciated :) Gonna go back and respond to other posts here now.

ETA: I posted my chart on here last night for Pbn3, and shortly after I realized I typed in the wrong temp! I also put salt in my tea among other odd, mindless things yesterday. lol.

[Roedinga1]

So FF moved your O from CD17 to 19? I guess the +OPK on CD18 could also support an O day on CD19. It sounds like your timing of BD would be fine either way so that's a plus! I still think your chart looks really good! My only other pregnancy where I was temping, I had a similar pattern and it ended up dipping even lower on 8DPO and then spiking and going triphasic the next day.

I think you know your body well enough to not trust the O on CD21.

Lastly, you're right. If O has moved 2 days then your still early which means your still totally in the game. Especially with those temps! FX


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[cosmosis]

So I'm still ovulation bleeding and my ovulation tests have been a little weird today one was a little darker and another was lighter. Should I still bd today since I'm spotting but no positive ovulation?

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I agree with Mia. Hold off and just continue an e4d pattern. :)


Help. I took my temp at my normal time this morning and it was 97.88 upon first waking. I thought it was low so I checked it again (which I never do) and it was 98.36 and one more time due to the huge increase and it was 98.43. That's pretty big fluctuations, right? I laid there and googled a little and found that the thermometer needs like 15 min to reset so I did that (without getting up or moving much at all) and my temp is 98.65! Which temp do I take? I would say the first one but it doesn't even come close to being comparable to the others. Thoughts anyone?


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Alright, so what I have learned with thermometers is that if they are really cold before you use them, they can give you low temps. I noticed my thermometer takes ALOT longer to give me a temp when it is cold than when it is already warm.

If you have already confirmed O for sure, I'd skip the temp, write it in notes and maybe add it in later, otherwise you can go with the second one. I've never heard of having to reset a digital thermometer. I could be wrong though.


So FF moved your O from CD17 to 19? I guess the +OPK on CD18 could also support an O day on CD19. It sounds like your timing of BD would be fine either way so that's a plus! I still think your chart looks really good! My only other pregnancy where I was temping, I had a similar pattern and it ended up dipping even lower on 8DPO and then spiking and going triphasic the next day.

I think you know your body well enough to not trust the O on CD21.

Lastly, you're right. If O has moved 2 days then your still early which means your still totally in the game. Especially with those temps! FX


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I had done an override because FF was giving me CD16 and that was obviously not O day. I would be more inclined to believe CD19 was O day because I still had mild O pain, my CM was in transition (it was stretchy but white) and by day 20 my cervix was VERY low, firm and closed. CD21 just seems too far off.

[cosmosis]

double post

[Pbn3]

Sh*t bugger me f##k I wrote a whole long post and it never appeared :*

Cosmo this will be shorter than the first post because I'm pissed lol 😠😠 in short I think you oed cd19 or 20 which would be too early for a bfp even on an frer....
Pretty sure I remember saying I didn't think you'd oed when initially thought 😉 lol no one Iikes a smartass so I'll shut my mouth!!! I could easily still be wrong and have to eat my words! I've been at an engagement party tonight so forgive my merriment 😀😆🍷

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[Pbn3]

Roe I would record your first temp and disregard for now then make notes of the other temps you recorded. Can you screenshot after tomorrows temp how your chart looks so we can try and decipher? :)

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[cosmosis]

Sh*t bugger me f##k I wrote a whole long post and it never appeared :*

Cosmo this will be shorter than the first post because I'm pissed lol ���� in short I think you oed cd19 or 20 which would be too early for a bfp even on an frer....
Pretty sure I remember saying I didn't think you'd oed when initially thought �� lol no one Iikes a smartass so I'll shut my mouth!!! I could easily still be wrong and have to eat my words! I've been at an engagement party tonight so forgive my merriment ������

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LOL! this has happened to me before on forums, so I select all the text, copy then post, just in case.

*sigh* I'm a bit annoyed to be honest. CD 20 and 21 seem too far off if we take into consideration all other fertility signs. I still think it was CD18 due to that second rise. CD19 is believable though. I'd like to know what dpo I'm in for testing purposes lol.

[Roedinga1]

Roe I would record your first temp and disregard for now then make notes of the other temps you recorded. Can you screenshot after tomorrows temp how your chart looks so we can try and decipher? :)

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I will definitely do that. I recorded my second temp 98.36 and then changed it to my first 97.88 which is only up .02 from yesterday's huge dip. Gezz what a huge difference in my chart! I don't know what to think but I'm going to try to just be patient and wait for tomorrow 7DPO (which is what I did yesterday [emoji30])

If it means anything, my cervix is medium to high, fairly soft with creamy/lotion-like CM. I'm not finding a great deal of CM on toilet paper but it's definitely there when I check my cervix.


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[cosmosis]

I will definitely do that. I recorded my second temp 98.36 and then changed it to my first 97.88 which is only up .02 from yesterday's huge dip. Gezz what a huge difference in my chart! I don't know what to think but I'm going to try to just be patient and wait for tomorrow 7DPO (which is what I did yesterday [emoji30])

If it means anything, my cervix is medium to high, fairly soft with creamy/lotion-like CM. I'm not finding a great deal of CM on toilet paper but it's definitely there when I check my cervix.


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don't read too much into individual temps, wait for a pattern. The more data you have the better :)

[maximbella]

Ladies, good morning! Cosmo, it looks good no matter which way you cut it! Honestly, your BD timing looks good and your temps look awesome, so it's just a matter of time. Exciting!!

I've been MIA, trying to lay low and not over stress myself with every temp/symptom. Temped this morning and finally got some cross hairs (dotted line, though, not solid lines). I'm not convinced that it's actually right, the temp increases seem too little to be a real O. What do you think? If it was really CD24, bd timing looks good, but if it shifts to CD26 it might be blue friendly (we are shooting for e4d but I'm trying to be more relaxed about it with DH since he's losing interest and I don't want to turn him away lol so we were e3d and looks like it's two attempts :worry:). Thoughts?

[maximbella]

Might help to post a chart... [emoji849]

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[cosmosis]

Maxim, what happens if you remove that +OPK? Was it really a positive or just a high reading?

[maximbella]

I haven't tried, should I? That was the day that I tested at 11am on the cheapie and got a positive. It went away by 4pm that afternoon to still dark, but definitely lighter than the 11am (so not sure if that's a false positive??). Never got a peak on digi, and at the advice of one you ladies, stopped testing and wasting the strips until I see another positive on cheapie (which I haven't).

[maximbella]

Alright, well I removed the positive and now it shifted it to CD26. Augh, that means 2 times in fertile window right? One in am before O day and then one in PM after O day (which would hopefully be too late to do anything). What do you think?

[Roedinga1]

@maxi your last 2 posts are making me think...

I never use OPKs until this cycle but I got a +OPK (smiley) in the evening of CD16 and again in the evening of CD19.

How do you figure which to remove? If I remove the positive on CD19 then it moved my O day.

For you, would the time you BD after O be more than 24 hours after O?


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[cosmosis]

Maxim, if its the positive OPK I remember, I believe I had said that was not a positive. The line wasn't exactly as dark as the control line. You may have caught the end of your surg in which case CD24 would make sense.

You will always have a shot at a girl no matter what. If it's CD24 or CD26 you have a great chance at getting pregnant :) and that's what you really wanted right? <3


As for meeeeeeee. Looks like FF also can't decide what day I truly O'd.
Research mode says CD17, even with the CD21 temp included:
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FAM and Advanced mode say CD19:
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Neither of them say CD18 u_u lol.

[maximbella]

Roe, I'm in the same shoes...I'm new to opk's and honestly have no clue what I'm doing. I've been relying on these ladies to help me, I'm honestly clueless!

[cosmosis]

OPK's are simple. If the line is as dark or darker than the control line, it is positive. You use your FIRST positive to determine BD 3 times if you are swaying blue or if you want to do an extra attempt in addition to your e4d pattern if you are swaying girl. *IF Atomic gave you specific instructions, you follow those*

OPK does not confirm ovulation. It only confirms that you had an LH surg. You can have several LH surges in your cycle. You can only confirm ovulation with basal body temps.

Roe, I only asked Maxim to remove her positive OPK because she was not clear if it was positive or not and I wanted to see what happens. If you are sure you got a +OPK, then go based on your first one. LH takes time to exit your system and you may or may not see several days of +OPK after your initial +OPK.

Hope this helps.

[Georgia_Peach]

Maxim that looks great! I'm so happy that it appears you dud ovulate. Don't worry about how many attempts you had... you didn't have an anovulitory month that's all that matters! 😊

Cosmo.. if FF changed your o date then you are still super early to test. That might be a good thing!!

I have gotten shawdow lines on frers and my cheapies the past 2 days now. It's so light I think I am losing my mind honestly. I decided to bite the bullet and go in to fertility clinic for blood work to know for sure. I am only 11 dpo today but they should be able to tell me something I am hoping. I should know this afternoon.

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[cosmosis]

Aaaaah Robin! Good luck hun. Keep us posted!!

[Georgia_Peach]

Aaaaah Robin! Good luck hun. Keep us posted!!
To be honest... I think what I did was worse than waiting bc I'll be devastated if it's negitive.. ugh!!

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