Frakkin' February 2WW

[Roedinga1]

I was using the empty circle or smiley so they positive vs negative would be clear. I got positive smileys CD16 and CD19 but negative AM and PM in between. This is what confusing to me. Why would I surge, not surge for 2 days and then surge again?

Per my history...I never O on CD16 and according to my norm and other fertility symptoms I lean towards CD19.

This is my chart if I remove the +OPK on CD19 (my 2nd positive for the cycle
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This is my chart if I leave both positive OPKs in.
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Maybe I should've just stuck to bbt and no OPKs [emoji57]


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[maximbella]

Robin, fingers crossed hon! Big hugs!

Cosmo, this is the opk's. this is the one that was darkest, but not sure if it was quite positive.

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[cosmosis]

To be honest... I think what I did was worse than waiting bc I'll be devastated if it's negitive.. ugh!!

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How are your temps? EVEN IF you are taking progesterone, your natural levels will drop. I take it every month and still get temp drop and AF.

You are going for bloodwork before late implantation, so you'll have to go again until you get AF! or not. ;)

[Georgia_Peach]

It's negitive today... ugh I am losing my mind I tell you!

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[Roedinga1]

It's negitive today... ugh I am losing my mind I tell you!

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Girl! I'm with you! [emoji30]


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[cosmosis]

I was using the empty circle or smiley so they positive vs negative would be clear. I got positive smileys CD16 and CD19 but negative AM and PM in between. This is what confusing to me. Why would I surge, not surge for 2 days and then surge again?

Per my history...I never O on CD16 and according to my norm and other fertility symptoms I lean towards CD19.

This is my chart if I remove the +OPK on CD19 (my 2nd positive for the cycle
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/897d20e4d2d7c2a33633b8413c64310d.png

This is my chart if I leave both positive OPKs in.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170211/a6c5c9668916ff0cdbb772876020a5be.png

Maybe I should've just stuck to bbt and no OPKs [emoji57]


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Keep both +OPK's and change your calculation method to research, then FAM and see what they say.


Robin, fingers crossed hon! Big hugs!

Cosmo, this is the opk's. this is the one that was darkest, but not sure if it was quite positive.

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Yeah, that's the one I said didn't look positive. The line is lighter than the control line by a hair. What time did you take this?


It's negitive today... ugh I am losing my mind I tell you!

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I'm so sorry dear :( did they ask you to come in again in 48 hrs?

[Georgia_Peach]

Keep both +OPK's and change your calculation method to research, then FAM and see what they say.



Yeah, that's the one I said didn't look positive. The line is lighter than the control line by a hair. What time did you take this?



I'm so sorry dear :( did they ask you to come in again in 48 hrs?
No she was like stop taking progesterone. But... the dr told me to stop taking it at 14dpo... I am only 11dpo today.

Do you think there still could be a possibility of it if I am 11dpo?


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[momamia4]

Roe, I've had numerous cycles where I get a +opk and no temp rise, then another +opk and a sustained temp rise a week later. I think you should use the 2nd +opk.

Maxim, I'd take out the +opk and let FF decide when you o'd based on temps. Like cosmosis said, you can try the other options that FF offers to see what O day they give you.

Robin, I'm so sorry!! That's so upsetting. :hug2: I'd keep taking the progesterone until 14dpo.

Afm, I'm feeling super crampy. I think my body tried to ovulate a few days ago. My right ovary feels super sore. I feel all bloated and emotional. I honestly feel like af is right around the corner. The birth control is doing a number on my body. My temps are insane!! On the upside, my skin looks fantastic! LMAO!

[foxtrotmama]

Maxim, I'd have considered that one positive if it was me. I tend to have short surges and used to have to test a bunch of times a day (three way my base, four if I had one that looked like that) to get a really true positive. To help myself chill out about TTC and be less of a control freak, I've been only testing once a day and counting those "really close to positives" as positive, but I don't know that I would be comfortable with that if I didn't have quite a few cycles of OPKs and comparing OPKs to my chart (I'm not charting) under my belt.




I have a really good feeling about this month for the first time since we've been TTC. This is cycle 6, but we missed having a good attempt twice.




Roedinga, what happens if you leave the OPKs and change it to FAM? (Oh, haha, I see cosmosis said the same thing).

[Roedinga1]

Maxim, I'd have considered that one positive if it was me. I tend to have short surges and used to have to test a bunch of times a day (three way my base, four if I had one that looked like that) to get a really true positive. To help myself chill out about TTC and be less of a control freak, I've been only testing once a day and counting those "really close to positives" as positive, but I don't know that I would be comfortable with that if I didn't have quite a few cycles of OPKs and comparing OPKs to my chart (I'm not charting) under my belt.




I have a really good feeling about this month for the first time since we've been TTC. This is cycle 6, but we missed having a good attempt twice.




Roedinga, what happens if you leave the OPKs and change it to FAM? (Oh, haha, I see cosmosis said the same thing).

Yes, Cosmo said the same. How do I do that?


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[cosmosis]

Click where I circled in red. It will take you to the correct page and you'll be able to choose from 4 methods.

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[cosmosis]

No she was like stop taking progesterone. But... the dr told me to stop taking it at 14dpo... I am only 11dpo today.

Do you think there still could be a possibility of it if I am 11dpo?


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I'd take it until the doctor told you to with a blood confirmation first. :)

[Roedinga1]

Click where I circled in red. It will take you to the correct page and you'll be able to choose from 4 methods.

Both +OPKs in and mode changed to research and the FAM

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[cosmosis]

CD19 makes more sense for you. If you had a +OPK, then negatives and again +, it is your second one that would be the surg more than likely. The recommendation to go with your first +OPK is if you have a couple more days of positives following the first one. If there is no thermal shift then you continue to test and again BD at your next surg. Hope that makes sense.

[cosmosis]

Keep in mind that this is coming from somebody who ovulates on or before a detected surg :) I get little to no notice of my surg lol.

[Roedinga1]

Keep in mind that this is coming from somebody who ovulates on or before a detected surg :) I get little to no notice of my surg lol.

Yes! That's me according to this month. I would've bet big money that I ovulated on CD19 because of my usual O symptoms but my morning OPK was negative! Then like 8 pm I get a positive OPK after I thought the ovulation had already happened!

I'm going to stick with my O on CD19. This is so silly but I was kind of excited about the possibility of CD16 O because that would put me further in the tww and I could poas! [emoji85]


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[Burakoam]

Maxim you posted that test before and we told you it wasnt positive...and you havent had a positive yet, and thats also why your cycle is still going where last cycle when you DID get a positive on CD 14 and bled 14 days later as you were supposed to.

cosmo the news of your frer made me a bit sad...i am certain you O'd on 18 if you get very little notice of your surges. maybe early cd 19..i think you are only a day or so off...for sh*ts and giggles can i see the frer you took? >_>

[Georgia_Peach]

OK so this morning I left early to go to my apt and I wasn't able to see my hpt in the daylight...
I just got home and checked and there is 100% two lines on both tests. Like very faint but there.
I am so confused why the bloodwork said negitive...
I think it could be wrong!

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[maximbella]

Maxim you posted that test before and we told you it wasnt positive...and you havent had a positive yet, and thats also why your cycle is still going where last cycle when you DID get a positive on CD 14 and bled 14 days later as you were supposed to.

cosmo the news of your frer made me a bit sad...i am certain you O'd on 18 if you get very little notice of your surges. maybe early cd 19..i think you are only a day or so off...for sh*ts and giggles can i see the frer you took? >_>

So barukaom, do you think I haven't O'd yet?[emoji17]


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[Burakoam]

maxim -no honey, you havent :( i am sorry. I really believe however that the less your DH knows the better, genuinely tell him the truth if he asks which is "i havent ovulated yet so we havent had our attempt" thats the truth and should get you more time. The thing is i remember that test being done around the time you were having fun with your girlfriends, drinking wine etc and taking the stress off. i think you were gearing up to O because you were finally relaxing but then started stressing about it again right after you got the almost positive and thats why it dropped off.

Robin lemme see the test! the thing about FRER and clearblue digital weeks estimator is they pick up HCG before a doctors blood work will confirm pregnancy..you have to have at least 11-12 i think for the blood test to be positive? frer and CBDWE can pick up levels of 6-10

ETA: Robin - Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) - hCG Levels (http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/hcg-levels/)
"An hCG level of less than 5mIU/ml is considered negative for pregnancy, and anything above 25mIU/ml is considered positive for pregnancy." so depending on the doctor, lab etc even if you had elevated levels they may not say you are pregnant unless it hits 25 or more...my RE was this way...she said my level was just barely positive at 25...which is silly because THIS time i knew i was pregnant with levels alot lower. I think they do this so that the women who may have chemicals etc dont feel disappionted if they are told they are pregnant and then still have a period just a bit late

[cosmosis]

\.for sh*ts and giggles can i see the frer you took? >_>


Why, don't mind if I do:

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Pretty negative lol.

[Burakoam]

damnit cosmo thats such a perfect indent line where it should be too. I REFUSE TO STOP BELIEVING.

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[Erin514]

maxim -no honey, you havent :( i am sorry. I really believe however that the less your DH knows the better, genuinely tell him the truth if he asks which is "i havent ovulated yet so we havent had our attempt" thats the truth and should get you more time. The thing is i remember that test being done around the time you were having fun with your girlfriends, drinking wine etc and taking the stress off. i think you were gearing up to O because you were finally relaxing but then started stressing about it again right after you got the almost positive and thats why it dropped off.

Robin lemme see the test! the thing about FRER and clearblue digital weeks estimator is they pick up HCG before a doctors blood work will confirm pregnancy..you have to have at least 11-12 i think for the blood test to be positive? frer and CBDWE can pick up levels of 6-10

ETA: Robin - Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) - hCG Levels (http://americanpregnancy.org/while-pregnant/hcg-levels/)
"An hCG level of less than 5mIU/ml is considered negative for pregnancy, and anything above 25mIU/ml is considered positive for pregnancy." so depending on the doctor, lab etc even if you had elevated levels they may not say you are pregnant unless it hits 25 or more...my RE was this way...she said my level was just barely positive at 25...which is silly because THIS time i knew i was pregnant with levels alot lower. I think they do this so that the women who may have chemicals etc dont feel disappionted if they are told they are pregnant and then still have a period just a bit late

But the blood test is always more accurate, though. An FRER can't tell you what your level is, or whether a shadow of a line is a real line or evap/indent. I get what you're saying, that some doctors will consider a low HCG number to be "negative", but in my experience a competent doctor who knows you're only at 11dpo would ask you to come in for a serial draw if there was any HCG at all. In that situation, I would think that "negative" means zero HCG, and the FRER line must've been an evap/intent/false positive.

Robin, I'm not trying to be discouraging at all and of course there is still a chance you're pregnant with a later implantation that hasn't produced HCG yet, but I wouldn't trust any HPT over a blood test. Can you ask the clinic to confirm whether your "negative" blood test was zero HCG or something else?

[Roedinga1]

I see the perfect indent too and was almost convinced it was the real deal. Keep testing girl!


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[cosmosis]

WHERE IS THIS INDENT LINE YOU SPEAK OF? :rofl:

I'm gonna pull it apart. I shall return. I really should find something to occupy myself with. -___-

[Roedinga1]

Zoom in! It's totally there on the pics you posted. See?!


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[Georgia_Peach]

But the blood test is always more accurate, though. An FRER can't tell you what your level is, or whether a shadow of a line is a real line or evap/indent. I get what you're saying, that some doctors will consider a low HCG number to be "negative", but in my experience a competent doctor who knows you're only at 11dpo would ask you to come in for a serial draw if there was any HCG at all. In that situation, I would think that "negative" means zero HCG, and the FRER line must've been an evap/intent/false positive.

Robin, I'm not trying to be discouraging at all and of course there is still a chance you're pregnant with a later implantation that hasn't produced HCG yet, but I wouldn't trust any HPT over a blood test. Can you ask the clinic to confirm whether your "negative" blood test was zero HCG or something else?
I am going to call back tomorrow. I her what you're saying yes but the way they do it.. is the get a nurse to call you back. They had no idea I was only 11dpo bc no one asked me. My Dr doesn't look at the results just nurses... it's kind of confusing really..

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[cosmosis]

Oh you mean the plastic film indentation? Yeah I dunno why they put t hat there >_>

I pulled it apart and flipped it over so no plastic film. Negative, ghost rider. I WANT to see something, so if I zoom in enough, I see forming pixels where the line should go. I'm a photographer so I have a very very good eye for that kinda stuff lol. I wish I had a macro lens and all of my equipment (recently moved). But all I have is a phone and photoshop express LOL.

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[cosmosis]

I am going to call back tomorrow. I her what you're saying yes but the way they do it.. is the get a nurse to call you back. They had no idea I was only 11dpo bc no one asked me. My Dr doesn't look at the results just nurses... it's kind of confusing really..

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You definitely need to call back and see if there's numbers. I had assumed this was the case! :/

[Burakoam]

Erin- Then you completely ignored where I said my re's nurse flat out told me that at their office less than 25 would have had them telling me I wasn't pregnant. Im not saying this is the case with Robin but she is also not out yet until they tell her zero hcg in the blood. None of us have seen the pee tests.. if she posted them and there was an obvious line but the blood said not pregnant would you really believe the blood? Especially with no numbers given.. a pregnancy test can have false positives but it's always for good reasons.. chemicals which don't result in viable pregnancy but still have hcg in pee, early miscarriages, medications and injectables, all give false positives on tests yes but you will never get a false positive 'just because'... if there is a line on a test there is hcg in your system. Wether it results in a viable pregnancy is another story.

Any way you can post any of the tests Robin?

[Roedinga1]

I am going to call back tomorrow. I her what you're saying yes but the way they do it.. is the get a nurse to call you back. They had no idea I was only 11dpo bc no one asked me. My Dr doesn't look at the results just nurses... it's kind of confusing really..

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Robin, For what it's worth, with my pregnancy back in August, my beta HCG was 10 at 16DPO and then only 35 at 19DPO. I got a squinter of a positive the evening of 15DPO on a wondfo. The outcome isn't what I would have wanted but I did carry that sweet angel for 12 weeks. On a happier note, in that process I read tons of women's posts that didn't get BFP or positive blood tests until well after me and had happy healthy little babes after 9 months.


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[XXforhubby]

My doc says at 10dpo any reading is positive but a viable pregnancy doubles at the appropriate rate. So if I've had a draw at 10dpo, he would do another one at 12dpo, and another one at 14dpo-15dpo to confirm doubling time.

FX so hard for you Robin!!



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[Georgia_Peach]

Thank you everyone for your input. I will call tomorrow but for today I will chalk it up to I must be crazy. I am hesitant to post the test bc it's so faint you guys will just think I am nuts...
It's definitely lighter than Erin's test was.
it was 2x frers (today's was darker slightly) and extremely light shawdow on wonfos.
I'll keep testing and see but I think I am grasping at straws here.

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[Georgia_Peach]

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This is what today's frer and yesterday's looked like.. you can see a faint shawdow..

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[cosmosis]

I am hesitant to post the test bc it's so faint you guys will just think I am nuts...

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Oh really? Look at what I posted :giggle: nobody sees what I see, but that's cool.;)

[cosmosis]

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This is what today's frer and yesterday's looked like.. you can see a faint shawdow..

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Let me see the colored one, I want to invert it :D

[Georgia_Peach]

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You totally can't even see it.. as I posting it.. I going wtf am I thinking! Lol
Also side note. I need my nails done!
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[cosmosis]

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I could see something on my phone when I zoomed in.

[maximbella]

Oh really? Look at what I posted :giggle: nobody sees what I see, but that's cool.;)

LOL!

[Pbn3]

Might help to post a chart... [emoji849]

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Are the latest temps in your usual post o range?

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[maximbella]

Looking back at my charts, my post o temps are kind of all over the place. Most recently they are above 98.2, but I looked back at my chart when DD1 was conceived and they seem to be a bit lower. Here's the chart. I guess the next few days will be telling. I don't really think I O'd yet, like barukaom said. I think maybe my body geared up, but stressing delayed it. I'm going to start with full fat dairy tomorrow at atomics recommendation. Any other suggestions?

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[Pbn3]

I'd go by your recent post o for temp range as they can change from season to season. So yes it's possible you haven't oed yet :( just keep using your cheapie opks. Really hope things gear up for you over the next few days

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[Erin514]

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You totally can't even see it.. as I posting it.. I going wtf am I thinking! Lol
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We don't think you're nuts, and fwiw I can kind of see a shadow there. I hope you can get more answers from your doc and I'll cross my fingers for you Robin.

[maximbella]

Pbn, thank you so much! And I agree, hoping it happens in the next few days or AF just hurries and comes!

Robin, I also see it...


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[Pbn3]

Robin I also think I see something but it looks a lot like what I used to call 'the frer fake line' that I used to get from time to time on tests. Near drove me nuts when it wouldn't get darker. Really hope I'm completely wrong and this is the beginning of a legit line!

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[Burakoam]

You're not nuts robin, every reason to be hopeful. the 2WW is a free of judgement kind of place when it comes to peeing on tests...look at cosmo LOL (jk, we love cosmo obviously)

And you guys have no idea what i was like in the 2ww for 7 months with DD3...hundred upon hundreds of dollars on the week estimators and FRER tests..i didnt want to go the cheapie route..needless to say i took alot of heat from my DH during those months..

[foxtrotmama]

Definitely not nuts. I see a shadow of a line there too.

I have peed on sooooooooo many tests, especially in the process of getting to my DS1. I will literally never judge someone for going POAS crazy. :)

[Cbroherd]

Even after ovulation?

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[Georgia_Peach]

So I just talked to the nurse at the clinic. My beta levels were only at 5. No idea why the home pregnancy test picked it up at that range. She thinks I may have had yet another chemical pregnancy bc early this month I had no levels. She told me at 11dpo they expect my levels in a noemal pregnancy to be at arpund 80.
I am going to stop the progesterone now and wait for AF to arrive so I can start my first clomid cycle. God this sucks so bad.

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[cosmosis]

I like to know exactly what is going on with my body at every moment. :D I love at home tests of all kinds and am not ashamed to pee on sticks as often as possible LOL.


Nothing exciting this morning. No shadows on sticks to play with. I've been super crampy again since yesterday afternoon. I'd say its AF but the grouchy mood isn't there.

I did an override on my FF chart for CD18 and that's where I'm gonna keep it. This makes me 10dpo today and I'll be taking my second frer tomorrow and will continue to do that every 48 to 72 hours while doing wondfos daily. I'm taking some comfort in the theory that boy beans produce less hcg or at a slower rate.

How's everyone else doing today?

[cosmosis]

So I just talked to the nurse at the clinic. My beta levels were only at 5. No idea why the home pregnancy test picked it up at that range. She thinks I may have had yet another chemical pregnancy bc early this month I had no levels. She told me at 11dpo they expect my levels in a noemal pregnancy to be at arpund 80.
I am going to stop the progesterone now and wait for AF to arrive so I can start my first clomid cycle. God this sucks so bad.

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I'm sorry to hear this :( I honestly would wait and take the progesterone for a few more days to encourage your body to have a stronger Ovulation and longer LP.

I'm wondering why they are not going fort with another draw at 48 hours?

[Roedinga1]

Good morning ladies.

Robin, I'm so sorry girl. I can't imagine how disappointed you are feeling. FX for you for next cycle.

Pbn3 here is my chart as requested yesterday after my temp fiasco. Yesterday, I went with my 1st temp (the lowest one) and today I am back up.
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[Burakoam]

Robin honey :( what if you were only 8-9 Dpo in reality? It's possible your hcg just hasn't had a chance to double yet if baby just implanted... I don't want to give you false hope but I also don't want you to do something you may regret...maybe give it another day or two and retest? If you get a darker line I'd call the nurse back for a redraw.. with the understanding you may have been off on your DPO a day or two..but if your gut says there is no hope and it was a chemical again then you do what you gotta do to feel better. -big hugs-

Cosmo looking forward to your test tomorrow... Xx

[Roedinga1]

Cosmo, I'm excited to see your tests over the next few days. I know I've seen shadows/faint lines on your tests so far!


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[cosmosis]

I am vindicated!

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Didn't want to disappoint, so I spent my morning trying every trick that I could think of to be able to capture what I see without needing to tweak anything (minus inverting). I think there was divine intervention because I'm one stubborn lady and I would have wasted my whole day on this. :rofl::rofl::rofl: You didn't think I would actually take a break did you??

The results were as I suspected. I needed soft light, coming from above. SO I climbed onto my bathroom sink to get underneath the perfect light lol. I was only able to capture a couple of shots because the phone automatically adjusts for lighting, it was so frustrating. But I got them.

The one at the top is SMU, the one at the bottom is FMU. Middle is my blazing OPK from CD19 LOL.

I hope I have provided good entertainment. XD

ETA: I understand the photo was taken after the "window", but I assure you, these are the darkest ones so far and even then, I'm certain I injured my eyesight today. They look much more clear captured on photo because they are still and in the perfect lighting.

[Georgia_Peach]

I am vindicated!

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Didn't want to disappoint, so I spent my morning trying every trick that I could think of to be able to capture what I see without needing to tweak anything (minus inverting). I think there was divine intervention because I'm one stubborn lady and I would have wasted my whole day on this. :rofl::rofl::rofl: You didn't think I would actually take a break did you??

The results were as I suspected. I needed soft light, coming from above. I was only able to capture a couple of shots because the phone automatically adjusts for lighting, it was so frustrating. But I got them.

The one at the top is SMU, the one at the bottom is FMU. Middle is my blazing OPK from CD19 LOL.

I hope I have provided good entertainment. XD
This is what my wonfos look like today too!!


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[Roedinga1]

Cosmosis!!!! It's clear as day in these!! I knew it was there!!!! Wahoo!!! Sooooo exciting! FX it gets darker and darker!!!


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[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats Cosmosis! I can't wait to see them continue to darken!

Robin- I think you're pregnant and you caught your levels really early. FX your tests too continue to darken!



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[cosmosis]

Thank you ladies, I seriously need to be pinched. I don't quite believe the lines because they took so much work to be able to see. I can't even get them to look like this for me right now as I look at them LOL.

@Robin, I believe you! Let's hope both of our shadows become actual bright lines!

I'm very nervous that this may just be a chemical, so only time will tell now. Should I poafrer tomorrow morning or give it 36 hours?

[Burakoam]

Do you have any cheapies left cosmo? pee on one tonight if you do..if you have ANYTHING worth mentioning pee on an FRER in the morning.

Robin you know i agree with Xx!! i really think your DPO is just off a bit and you want to give it a bit longer!

[cosmosis]

Yes, I have some wondfos left. I'll try my best to do a 4 hour hold tonight, otherwise I'll just wait until Tuesday for the frer. I hope I can manage lol.

[XXforhubby]

That is how light mine looked at 10dpo in the evening with maybe a 3 hour hold! The next morning I got a clear positive on a FRER, CBD WE, and Wondfo.

FX for you!!



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[cosmosis]

I'm actually quite nervous they won't darken. :worry:

The plan is to confirm wondfo lines with a frer, then just buy one pack of CBD's for next week so I get the 2-3 week reading and then the 3-4 week reading, God willing.

I was JUST bout to order more frers, but if I don't have to, I'd rather not. I think I'll hold off on the frer until Tuesday and just use up my wondfos...I have a full box of opk's to pee on :rofl:

[Butterflies buttercups]

Remember mine too mine were really faint but over a few days darkened it's so hard not to worry and too easy to spend $$$$$$$$ on FRers!!!!
I defiantly think those lines will darken - It's just so hard to hold off testing !! fx!!


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[Georgia_Peach]

So I just caved and took a frer mid day with no hold. I am pretty sure it's darker than yesterday's fmu.
I am so confused bc I didn't take my morning progesterone bc they told me to stop...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/e01a4e2f3d03fb600e73bdf52112bfa5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/67aa55b1f8be954f3fe87ea2035bcfad.jpg

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[XXforhubby]

I can totally see it Robin! I agree it's much darker today. I'm not sure about what to do with the progesterone. Maybe slowly get back up to the dose you were taking? I would take a half a dose today, if possible. Then resume your full dose tomorrow.

FX you have a sticky bean growing in there!



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[cosmosis]

With progesterone, you can go right back on it, go put your supp in right now! That test is positive my dear. I assume you are on 100mg twice daily right? It is still early in the day to where you can do two doses.Try to go to bed a little later today to get your second dose in. It happens to me all the time with cream.

It took everything I had in me to not take the frer right now. I did not drink anything (besides tea) all day as I've been preoccupied with these tests. I used a wondfo and an opk and dumped the sample. LOL.

[Roedinga1]

Robin, I definitely see it today. I thought I saw it yesterday but today, I have no doubt.

I wouldn't stress too much about the progesterone. I'm assuming you've had lower levels at times and that's why you're taking it? Have you read many studies supporting its effectiveness? I'm not really sure how low yours was but I work with an OB and when I was put on vaginal progesterone with my last pregnancy in August, he said it was just my doctor doing something to have done something. He says there really isn't any significant scientific support to progesterone supplementation. I continued it because it couldn't hurt but he didn't believe that it would be a game changer.


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[Georgia_Peach]

Robin, I definitely see it today. I thought I saw it yesterday but today, I have no doubt.

I wouldn't stress too much about the progesterone. I'm assuming you've had lower levels at times and that's why you're taking it? Have you read many studies supporting its effectiveness? I'm not really sure how low yours was but I work with an OB and when I was put on vaginal progesterone with my last pregnancy in August, he said it was just my doctor doing something to have done something. He says there really isn't any significant scientific support to progesterone supplementation. I continued it because it couldn't hurt but he didn't believe that it would be a game changer.


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Thanks guys.
I take 200 ml 2x day. I just put one in and I'll do another tonight.

I asked the dr for it bc I thought it might help this cycle since I ovulated so late. (Day 18/19) and my cycles are always 28-29 days long. Leaving me with a shorter LP.
I am on day 31 now 12dpo. Or so I believe anyway.


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[cosmosis]

Roe, I'm unsure if your doc was referring to progesterone and pregnancy or progesterone supplementation generally speaking. It is absolutely wonderful for hormonal imbalance and adrenal insufficiency. There's lots of science behind that one. As far as pregnancy, I'm unsure.

What we do know with certainty is that Stopping progesterone suddenly will cause bleeding to occur, whether pregnant or not. It is often used to induce periods after long anovulatory cycles.

I do think some doctors use it just for extra measure and many women don't need it to sustain a pregnancy. Regardless, if it is stopped suddenly, it will induce bleeding/miscarriage.

I used large amounts during the 2ww last cycle in order to induce a strong ovulation this cycle, and it worked :) I love me some progesterone LOL. ;)

[Roedinga1]

It's not going to hurt! My thing was...I've got it and it's not going to do harm so I might as well do it so I have no "what ifs"

28-29 day cycles and your one day 31 with no AF and a clearly positive hpt!!! [emoji1319][emoji1303]🤞🏻


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[Roedinga1]

He was referring to it in sustaining pregnancy because that's why I was prescribed it at 15dpo.

Question...I used it until I had a d&c at 12 weeks. I'm assuming there was a chromosomal issue that made the pregnancy non-viable. I'm wondering if I would have most likely miscarried earlier without it? I never bled. Just went in for scan and the heartbeat was gone.


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[cosmosis]

IT'S GETTING DARKER! :omg: I can see it without squinting now. DH has my phone so I can't take a pic right now, tried with a regular camera but there isn't much zoom and the line isn't dark enough for no zoom.




Question...I used it until I had a d&c at 12 weeks. I'm assuming there was a chromosomal issue that made the pregnancy non-viable. I'm wondering if I would have most likely miscarried earlier without it? I never bled. Just went in for scan and the heartbeat was gone.


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I'm sorry for your loss hun :(

Yes, you would have more than likely bled sooner, but sometimes miscarriages take forever even without progesterone. I've seen women go a couple of months without miscarrying after the heartbeat stops and eventually they induce it. Tough to tell what will happen in those cases.

[XXforhubby]

Uh, your DH needs to give your phone back- We need to see the pic!!!!

I want to see it [emoji6]



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[XXforhubby]

Waiting...impatiently 🤣



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[cosmosis]

LOL! He took it for repairs. I cracked the top of it. He'll be back ... not soon enough u_u. I tried to scan it but the scanner is super duper brights and makes even the control line look dark. I'll be back with a pic this evening. :D

[cosmosis]

Well, I can't really wait for him. So here is a shot taken with my camera. If you can see it, then it is most definitely a real line ;) This is without any zoom or perfect lighting. My DD can see it yay!

These are both super fresh. Took the pic about 10 mins after I took the test.
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[Roedinga1]

I see it on both!! [emoji2]


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[Roedinga1]

I can't remember what you decided...frer tomorrow? Or waiting until Tuesday?


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[cosmosis]

I can't remember what you decided...frer tomorrow? Or waiting until Tuesday?


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Tuesday....I really hope I can discipline myself.

[Roedinga1]

I think that's a good plan. I can't wait to see it.
I've got faith in you [emoji6] the Wondfos will occupy you for the next 36 hours ☺ you got this!


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[Pbn3]

Omg what wonderful news to wake up to 😀😀

Huge congrats cosmo!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Robinthat line is definately darker!! I'm so happy for you!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉

Cant wait to watch both you ladies test lines progress!



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[momamia4]

Congrats Robin and cosmo!!! 😁😁😁

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[MiaMelb]

Agreed absolutely wonderful news to wake up to, congratulations Cosmo!!!
This Feb 2ww seems to be spreading the good luck around.

[MiaMelb]

So I just caved and took a frer mid day with no hold. I am pretty sure it's darker than yesterday's fmu.
I am so confused bc I didn't take my morning progesterone bc they told me to stop...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/e01a4e2f3d03fb600e73bdf52112bfa5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170212/67aa55b1f8be954f3fe87ea2035bcfad.jpg

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I'm so terrible at line spotting til it's super dark but I trust the keen eye of the ladies here. Congratulations Robin!!! Looking forward to seeing some line progression.

[cosmosis]

Thank you ladies :) I won't be telling DH anything until 2 weeks from now so I have plenty of time to pee on sticks and verify lol. I hope I can contain myself.

Robin, you should post your pic on count down to pregnancy. It's fun! lol.

[Georgia_Peach]

Thank you ladies :) I won't be telling DH anything until 2 weeks from now so I have plenty of time to pee on sticks and verify lol. I hope I can contain myself.

Robin, you should post your pic on count down to pregnancy. It's fun! lol.
Haha.. I totally already did. 😂

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[cosmosis]

loooooool!!

[Burakoam]

THAT line robin is MUCH darker! It isnt even that much of a squinter and looks alot like mine when my levels were around 10..which means yours would have doubled!!!! im telling you they have the wrong info..you probably just ovulated a day or two later than you thought or baby implanted just a bit late but they still have every shot in the world to be a healthy viable pregnancy and baby!

i am SO SO SO happy for you robin and i hope you keep showing us your tests..i want to watch that line darken with you M'dear :) So happy.

eta: Cosmo! i see that line too for sure ;) awesome! once you get your phone back i expect more/better pictures LOL

[XXforhubby]

Yay Cosmo and Robin! Huge congrats! I can't wait to see what the next few days bring!

Huge congrats [emoji322][emoji322]!!



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[Burakoam]

Cosmo im going to be that little devil on your shoulder again...test with the frer tonight or in the morning..Wondfo is 25 MLU sensitivity and the frer is going to have a darker line than even that wondfo..i know this because i had a good positive on an FRER with levels of 10 per blood results. Thats what i am betting robin is at and with that line on a wondfo which has a smaller sensitivity that FRER should give you a decent line to make you a happy camper.

picture for proof

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That same day within an hour of that FRER i had a positive 1-2 weeks on CBDWE. later on in the day when i had results from a blood test my levels were at 11.5...so they had probably gone up a bit since that morning in order to double in the next day or so but still puts me with VERY little HCG in my system to get both a positive on an FRER and a digital that early :) thats why im such a huge supporter of CBDWE lol

also there is this: https://forums.thebump.com/discussion/8146453/how-sensitive-are-the-wondfo-pregnancy-strips

[cosmosis]

aaaaaah! lol I *may* do it with SMU. The only thing holding me back is that Canadian frers are said to not be as sensitive as the US ones. Erin said it isn't so and she had a blood draw too, but too many ladies have complained. I have ONE and I'm not buying more XD I was going to, but not after the lines I got on wondfo today. I'll sleep on it haha.

Here's a closeup of this afternoon's test. The brightness wore off a bit, but oh well. Still see two lines :D It is much darker in person for sure. I hope tomorrow's will capture well on camera.

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I should probably start cutting down on my tea u_u

[Roedinga1]

Still see it [emoji1303] Why SMU vs FMU? I've always used FMU but would love to know the reasoning behind SMU.


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[cosmosis]

Still see it [emoji1303] Why SMU vs FMU? I've always used FMU but would love to know the reasoning behind SMU.


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My SMU test showed up MUCH faster and was a bit darker than my FMU one. For me, it makes most sense to do it this way because FMU still includes the night before's drinks and body fluids. Think of it like a water pipe. When you open the faucet, you are getting water that has been sitting there a while. You'd have to let it run a bit to get new water. Make sense?

My afternoon urine was actually the most concentrated today because I went without water all day pretty much. I'm catching up now and so my morning urine will be diluted. I got myself in a bad cycle because of the OPK's.

[Roedinga1]

My SMU test showed up MUCH faster and was a bit darker than my SMU one. For me, it makes most sense to do it this way because FMU still includes the night before's drinks and body fluids. Think of it like a water pipe. When you open the faucet, you are getting water that has been sitting there a while. You'd have to let it run a bit to get new water. Make sense?

My afternoon urine was actually the most concentrated today because I went without water all day pretty much. I'm catching up now and so my morning urine will be diluted. I got myself in a bad cycle because of the OPK's.

Makes total sense. Thanks! Do you typically try not to drink anything between FMU and SMU?


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[XXforhubby]

I was the same way too, Cosmosis when testing with my DS3. Once you see two solid lines, you can play catch up with fluids [emoji6][emoji98]



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[maximbella]

OMG Robin & Cosmo, wow!!! Congrats ladies, amazing news!!!!!!

[Roedinga1]

When do you ladies normally start testing? Tomorrow I will be 8DPO. With my DS2 I got a BFP at 10DPO. I have no clue if I've implanted based on my chart. I know it's early. Symptoms (maybe psychological [emoji57]) I've been crampy, lower abdomen and hips have been aching, and a wave or 2 of nausea.


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[XXforhubby]

I would test at 10dpo and again at 13dpo if you get a BFN.

FX for you!!



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[cosmosis]

Good morning :)

I didn't want to spend my day squinting with wondfos and it turns out I won't be home for SMU, so I took the frer. Still playing the squinting game though. My eyes can't take much more lol. I was hoping a dark line. Had I waited until tomorrow I'm sure it would have been.

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This is at 11dpo, FMU and it took 3-5 minutes to show up. I'm gonna take it apart and compare it to the frer I took 48 hours ago, but I'll do that later today. So is this a confirmation then? DO I really need to take another frer in 48 hours? lol

My wondfo is a bit darker today. I'd say the two are comparable in how sensitive they are. The lines are the same shade pretty much. :D

[cosmosis]

When do you ladies normally start testing? Tomorrow I will be 8DPO. With my DS2 I got a BFP at 10DPO. I have no clue if I've implanted based on my chart. I know it's early. Symptoms (maybe psychological [emoji57]) I've been crampy, lower abdomen and hips have been aching, and a wave or 2 of nausea.


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Well, I thought I was further along so I accidentally started at 6dpo. If I had done it as planned, I would have started on 10dpo. :)

[Roedinga1]

Good morning :)

I didn't want to spend my day squinting with wondfos and it turns out I won't be home for SMU, so I took the frer. Still playing the squinting game though. My eyes can't take much more lol. I was hoping a dark line. Had I waited until tomorrow I'm sure it would have been.

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This is at 11dpo, FMU and it took 3-5 minutes to show up. I'm gonna take it apart and compare it to the frer I took 48 hours ago, but I'll do that later today. So is this a confirmation then? DO I really need to take another frer in 48 hours? lol

My wondfo is a bit darker today. I'd say the two are comparable in how sensitive they are. The lines are the same shade pretty much. :D

Looking good cosmo!!! I like wondfos and I've gotten comparable results as well. If you want to keep using the cheapies that you have and you're seeing progression then I'm not sure you need to get more frers. Maybe a CBDWE??? [emoji6]

Asfm, I'm 8DPO and my temp increased slightly today so I'm thinking that's a good sign? I've been achy and cramping in my lower abdomen and hips.


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[cosmosis]

Here's my frer comparison for you frer pushers :giggle: . You can actually see a very faint line on 9dpo, I hope I'm progressing. So nerve wracking!

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I just realized I'll want a bright BFP with two lines for a possible memory book. I still have DD's dollar store BFP's lol. I'll buy one more box of frers and take them in the next 4-6 days. God willing.

Roe, the temps will vary. I have seen BFP charts with lower temp and mine are settling in mid range, not as high as I thought they'd be, that's for sure. Crampy is a very good sign imo :) I wish you the best and will be here until the end of Feb! lol ;)

[Roedinga1]

Here's my frer comparison for you frer pushers :giggle:

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I just realized I'll want a bright BFP with two lines for a possible memory book. I still have DD's dollar store BFP's lol. I'll buy one more box of frers and take them in the next 4-6 days. God willing.

Roe, the temps will vary. I have seen BFP charts with lower temp and mine are settling in mid range, not as high as I thought they'd be, that's for sure. Crampy is a very good sign imo :) I wish you the best and will be here until the end of Feb! lol ;)

I definitely see the progression there!!! I don't know you but I couldn't be more excited for you!! ☺ It's crazy awesome how you feel invested in such a short time. I know many of you ladies have much more of a history together but I love the genuine support and advice I've found on this site. Cosmo, thank you. I will definitely keep you posted here. I'm 10dpo on Wednesday (it's Monday morning here) and plan to test! FX

CONGRATS!!! [emoji322][emoji1405][emoji170]


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[cosmosis]

>>>>ROBIN<<<<

If you open up frers and flip them with the back facing you, the lines are a bit darker on the back, enough to be able to capture it on camera without glare from the plastic film on the front. Try it and post for us :)



I definitely see the progression there!!! I don't know you but I couldn't be more excited for you!! ☺ It's crazy awesome how you feel invested in such a short time. I know many of you ladies have much more of a history together but I love the genuine support and advice I've found on this site. Cosmo, thank you. I will definitely keep you posted here. I'm 10dpo on Wednesday (it's Monday morning here) and plan to test! FX

CONGRATS!!! [emoji322][emoji1405][emoji170]


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Awww thank you, that is very sweet. I agree, lots of genuine support here <3

[XXforhubby]

Yay Cosmosis! I can clearly see it this morning- no squinter for me! I bet 2 days from now, you'll have a nice dark line!

Stick, baby stick!!!



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Thank you XX :)

LOL, majority vote on countdown to pregnancy is negative for the frer.

Here's my wondfo comparison shots for FMU. Very minimal progress from yesterday's stick. Yesterday was my doubling day Ithink, so tomorrow my sticks should be (hopefully) much darker.

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[maximbella]

Wow really Cosmo?! I totally see it on both!! ❤️


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[Burakoam]

I really think it's just the camera and lighting it looks pretty comparable to my tests done early on this pregnancy. Congratulations Cosmo ;)

[cosmosis]

I really think it's just the camera and lighting it looks pretty comparable to my tests done early on this pregnancy. Congratulations Cosmo ;)

Thank you dear :)

fwiw, it's very clear in daylight and it has a pink hue. If the bean sticks, it will be much darker in 2 days, I'm sure. Yay! I marked it on my chart XD

[Burakoam]

I tried to make this a bit darker for you

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[Georgia_Peach]

Looks great cosmosis!
You'll definitely get nice darker lines in the next few days!

Thank you everyone for the congrats. I took another frer this morning and it's not much darker. At this point I have no idea what you do. I doubt my numbers have doubled unfortunately. I wish that today give me a really dark line so I could know what to do... but it didn't. If what the nurse said is right and this is another chemical I just want to know so I can stop progesterone and get AF on the rd. It's pushing my cycle out so far I am just ready to be done now...

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[XXforhubby]

Awe Robin! I bet you will get a darker line tomorrow. It can take a bit. I felt crazy with my DS2- I knew I was pregnant but couldn't get a positive test to save my life!

FX for a nice dark test soon!!



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[Burakoam]

Robin please remember it takes 2-3 days to get darker lines on tests especially with FRER's...they suck anymore ever since they changed the design...the flat FRER's had MUCH better lines imo...in the mean time take care of yourself and take another test tomorrow afternoon/night...i know you are worried that you need to stop the progesterone if the baby isnt viable but trust me..your O date was off..you just arent that far along is all..give baby some more time i am sure they are working hard :)

speaking of Off O days...cosmo i think yours is off too. The tests i took that were that light i thought i was 10-11 DPO..i was only 8 DPO.

[Georgia_Peach]

I am going back to clinic right now for updated results. The nurse just told me that my original blood levels were 3.9 not 4.9 wtf?!

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[Burakoam]

What??? robin please keep us informed. I am hoping/praying its higher.

[maximbella]

Hugs, Robin!!!

[Roedinga1]

FX and TX for you, Robin!!


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[Roedinga1]

I really really hope this isn't the case for Robin and that her levels have gone up. However, I agree with you Erin. I'm hesitant to test 10dpo for this very reason. I think if I had a chemical I would rather just not know. All personal preference I guess.


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[cosmosis]

speaking of Off O days...cosmo i think yours is off too. The tests i took that were that light i thought i was 10-11 DPO..i was only 8 DPO.

MAYBE 19dpo, which makes me 10dpo today. 20dpo is really pushing it and not probable in my opinion, not with the hot flashes from the night of 17dpo and other factors. I had alot of sharp pain that was shooting from my uterus down to my leg 2 days ago. It lasted a few minutes and I've been quite crampy since. So it may be that the implantation was later than I thought. :)


Robin, I hope you get the results you are hoping for hun. <3 I'll be awaiting your update.

[cosmosis]

I don't see Erin's post.

[Roedinga1]

I don't anymore either. Weird.


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[cosmosis]

Okay, I'm gonna call it official. Not only am I super tired without remedy (constant sand in my eyes for 3 days now), but I took an afternoon wondfo and it got dark enough to not have to squint within 5 mins. No more shadow, we have an actual line now. I wish I had waited for the frer! lol. Now we just have to wait and see if the bean sticks. I don't have the luxury of blood draws or monitoring, so don't mind my pics :) I have to wait it out old school.

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[Butterflies buttercups]

Great line I can defo see it !!
Will u buy any more frers now?

Congratulations !! Xxx


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[cosmosis]

Great line I can defo see it !!
Will u buy any more frers now?

Congratulations !! Xxx


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Yes, I'll buy a set of two probably tomorrow. I need one for keepsake. :) I'll more than likely get the CBD w/ indicator late next week, God willing.

[Butterflies buttercups]

Yay brilliant idea ! I remember your comment sent me to th chemist when I got a bfn on a cheapie and it puts ur mind at rest although mine didn't properly show up until 12dpo so remain optimistic !! Can't wait to see the updates !


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[Georgia_Peach]

Just got the results. My blood level is down to a 2 today. So I am definitely not pregnant now. I am stopping progesterone immediately.


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[cosmosis]

:hug2: I'm sorry to hear this Robin <3 I wish you the best in this coming cycle. CLomid will really help in your sway, so I hope you take comfort in that hun.

[XXforhubby]

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Robin, I'm so sorry to hear this.


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[Burakoam]

:( robin. so sorry...

[maximbella]

Robin, so sorry... [emoji17]


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[maximbella]

Do you ladies use wondfo or easy@home cheapies? I am out and need to purchase more from amazon. I've been using the easy@home strips, but feel like everyone else uses wondfo so wondering if that's what I should go with?


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[maximbella]

(For opk's)


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[XXforhubby]

I have always used Wondfos and confirmed with a CBD (pink ones that give a smiley only).

If you are in the US, I can send you some Wondfos. I think I have 26 that expire on 11/2017 and 50 that expire 1/2018. I also have 9 CBD that expire in 12/2017. If you have paypal, you can just pay the shipping cost.





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[XXforhubby]

I also have Wondfo HCG that expire in 9/2017- 20 of them.



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[cosmosis]

easy@home is an authorized wondfo seller/reseller. I use those :) They are legitimate wondfo.

ETA: All of these are wondfo from my understanding:

iFast
Ding!
TEST `A-SURE
Easy@Home
IN-N-OUT
USHealth Tests and Products
Formosa Medical LLC
Fairview Mart.

[Burakoam]

There is an OPK or pregnancy test called "ding!" !?!? And "in-and-out" omg

I am rolling on the floor with laughter omg

[Erin514]

Robin, I'm so sorry. I hope next month is it for you.
Cosmo, congrats! FX for your sticky bean.

The reason my post disappeared is because I'd written about FRERs being so sensitive that they can set off a lot of worry in response to one of Robin's old posts, then I saw that she was waiting for a new blood draw and my post was outdated so I deleted. Sorry about the confusion.

[maximbella]

xx, omg you're so sweet! I'm going to let any other takers on here go first....I just ordered a pack from amazon (before I saw your post), but if no one bites let me know! :)

[cosmosis]

There is an OPK or pregnancy test called "ding!" !?!? And "in-and-out" omg

I am rolling on the floor with laughter omg

:rofl: me tooooooo!!

I have no idea if t hese are opk's and HPT's, maybe other products. Funny though LOL.

[cosmosis]

Cosmo, congrats! FX for your sticky bean.



Thank you hun <3

[maximbella]

Ladies, is this a positive or not quite? This is after a 3 hour hold about an hour ago. Also super bloated which is usually a good sign for me, but I am so confused by this cycle....

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[XXforhubby]

I would call that a positive. I used to get horribly bloated with delayed ovulation.

FX you catch the egg!!



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[cosmosis]

Ladies, is this a positive or not quite? This is after a 3 hour hold about an hour ago. Also super bloated which is usually a good sign for me, but I am so confused by this cycle....

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can you confirm with a digital? when was the last time you BD'd?

[maximbella]

Should I go ahead and test with the CB advanced digi? It says fmu only. Should I do it tonight? Last night was last BD. Should we again tonight??


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[maximbella]

(I meant should I test with the digi tonight lol)


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[Burakoam]

Test with a digi tonight but try and do at least a small hold. if nothing else and you usually wake up to pee at least once in the middle of the night use that pee to test.

I also think that is positive maxim :) looking at your chart your temp is also on the way up. get excited, but not stressed. you had EWCM yesterday too it looks like..all good signs.

I would BD again tonight. depending on how long it takes you to O you may end up not having an attempt in your fertile window if you rely on last nights attempt.

[cosmosis]

You should ask atomic, although I doubt she is on the forums at this time. Are her instructions to BD E4D and then again at +OPK? I believe she mentioned she wanted you to have two attempts to be sure you got pregnant.I read through your thread a while back and I remember something along those lines.

Follow her advice and don't second guess yourself. The test looks positive from this angle, but I see discoloration in the middle of the line. It could be because it is a cheapie, which is why I suggested you confirm with a digi. I'm not familiar with the advanced monitor. You may want to go get the pack of regular CBD OPK's (pink ones). That will tell you for sure.

[cosmosis]

Glad Burakoam was able to give her take on this before the night was over! :) this stuff is really time sensitive.

[maximbella]

THANK YOU ladies for such a quick response, seriously! How long should I hold for? It's been about 2 hours, is that enough? Or wait longer?

[Burakoam]

another hour or two if you can be awake that long id do a 4 hour hold..if you arent going to be up that late you could now or in an hour..whatever is manageable. 4 hour hold would be best IMO

[maximbella]

Okay, I'll do it!! Thanks Barukoam and Cosmo, keep you posted...

[foxtrotmama]

Maxim, I'd count that as positive. If you're going to do the digi, I'd try for a four-hour hold.
I use the easy@home, they're rebranded wondfo. :)

Robin, I'm sorry. :(

Cosmo, OMG!!!!!!!!

CD13 here and my OPK was nowhere near dark today. :/ I did just stop vitex, though. I haven't done vitex since September and I think I O'd four days after stopping vitex in september.

[MiaMelb]

Maxim, very pleased to see this cycle may finally be sorting itself out. GL. Agreed don't second guess the advice you've been given.

Robin,:bighug:

[Roedinga1]

Maxim, so glad this cycle is giving you a chance! GL!


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[maximbella]

Thank you so much ladies. Trying not to get too excited and curious what the digi will read. I'll post as soon as I test.


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[maximbella]

Checking in case everyone is asleep by the time I test. If it doesn't say peak, should I skip BD?


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[Roedinga1]

Checking in case everyone is asleep by the time I test. If it doesn't say peak, should I skip BD?


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Maxim, I do not have near the experience that a lot of these other women have, however, I wanted to respond with my opinion in case others are asleep. Considering you BD yesterday, I would personally not BD tonight unless you get a peak reading after your 4 hour hold. I could be wrong but that's what I would do because I would think the peak is yet to come and it could keep you closer to your E4D schedule.


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[maximbella]

Thanks ladies! Ok well DH is going to bed so I tested...it was a 3.25 hour hold. Not great, but didn't want to pass it up in case it was positive. The cheapie was lighter than the last one and the digi still says peak. Wonder if I don't hold enough. But just to be safe, I'm passing on BD tonight and will wake up to test early. If digi says peak, I'll BD early am. Lmk if anyone thinks differently. Thanks for your last minute help here ladies!!!


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[Burakoam]

wait...if the digi said peak maxim thats your peak it doesnt matter if the cheapie was lighter..your entire statement is confusing..did you take it or not? did it say peak or what? if it was peak you should try and bd tonight for pink.

[maximbella]

Augh not peak, sorry...says high. The cheapie was lighter than before and the digi still has the flashing smiley which is "high". So skip BD?? He's asleep but I'll totally go wake him up if so...


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[foxtrotmama]

I don't know if I missed a post, has he lightened up on the one month thing? If not I would definitely try to get another BD in ASAP with a peak reading and a positive cheapy earlier.

[maximbella]

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[foxtrotmama]

I've never had two positive line OPKs in a row, personally. I tend to have a short surge in the afternoon and not see another true positive.

[maximbella]

I don't know if I missed a post, has he lightened up on the one month thing? If not I would definitely try to get another BD in ASAP with a peak reading and a positive cheapy earlier.

No, I've had a super delayed cycle so we are technically in the same "month". I'm CD 31 and still haven't O'd yet. [emoji19]. My mistake, sorry it's late here. The digi reads high, NOT peak. Just posted the pic with the most recent cheapie on bottom.


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[maximbella]

Ok so I'll wake him?? Barukaom??


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[foxtrotmama]

I remembered that you were still in the same cycle (that's the worst), I just wasn't sure if he had softened. :) Honestly I would get in another attempt, but I totally get if you are wanting to space them out a little more.

EDIT TO ADD that it may be worth noting that I have only ever conceived boys when TTC (although I was swaying with DS1), so my advice probably leans more towards conception than pink.

[Burakoam]

If digi says high maxim dont do it tonight. your original post said that the digi said peak and it confused the hell out of me lol...test again with a digi in the morning okay? if that is still high only then maybe some more time with the cheapies..

if digi is peak in the morning, DTD :)

[maximbella]

Ok thank you!!! I'll see what it says in am. Sorry for the confusion, it's late here and it's been a long day. THANK YOU guys!

Fox, I would say he's 1% more open to another month, but he firmly believes if it was meant to be, it would have happened. I have to remind him that I'm not in my 20s anymore and that it can take some time. But he's slooooowly coming around...


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[cosmosis]

Let us know what you get this morning hun :)

[Roedinga1]

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Well, the wait is getting to me. I promised myself that I wouldn't test until 10dpo (24 hours) but I'm literally dying! My focus at work is terrible. This is consuming me. I know temps are just a guessing game and vary cycle to cycle and person to person but if anyone has any opinion on my chart, that would be lovely. I feel like my cramping let up somewhat yesterday, I could barely keep my eyes open watching the Bachelor last night (guilty pleasure [emoji85]) and I have some creamy/lotiony CM but not a lot. Thanks ladies!

Maxim, I think you made the right choice by holding off on BD last night. I once got 11, yes 11, "high" fertility results on those advanced OPKs. It turned me off from OPKs for a long time until someone suggested the pink ones that just give you a non-fertile vs fertile result (empty circle or solid smiley). GL!!


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[cosmosis]

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Well, the wait is getting to me. I promised myself that I wouldn't test until 10dpo (24 hours) but I'm literally dying! My focus at work is terrible. This is consuming me. I know temps are just a guessing game and vary cycle to cycle and person to person but if anyone has any opinion on my chart, that would be lovely. I feel like my cramping let up somewhat yesterday, I could barely keep my eyes open watching the Bachelor last night (guilty pleasure [emoji85]) and I have some creamy/lotiony CM but not a lot. Thanks ladies!

Maxim, I think you made the right choice by holding off on BD last night. I once got 11, yes 11, "high" fertility results on those advanced OPKs. It turned me off from OPKs for a long time until someone suggested the pink ones that just give you a non-fertile vs fertile result (empty circle or solid smiley). GL!!


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your chart looks promising, but I don't know the history of your temps. Do you have a page where I can see multiple charts?

Check out my chart (in signature), see how my temp fluctuations got really small after implantation? I NEVER have small fluctuations, all of my charts are full of big ups and down with the occasional flat line for 2 days. So, in my personal situation, the small fluctuations are what made me really try hard to get my two lines in a picture. I just knew that a bean had implanted :)

[maximbella]

Alright ladies, this cycle is officially messing with me. Woke up to a low temp (97.17 F) and another flashing smiley on digi, so no peak yet. Super bloated, but obviously haven't O'd yet. I'm on CD32!!! I don't even know if that would be a healthy egg at this point. Super bummed...

:hair:

[XXforhubby]

Maxim- I think you are getting close! I would test this afternoon and again tonight on Wondfos. If you have any CBD that are the pink ones (smiley only) I would use those too. If you get a smiley, then I would BD.

FX so hard for you! This cycle won't be a waste if you can catch the egg! Delayed O doesn't cause a dodgy egg. If so, my friends with PCOS shouldn't have healthy babies [emoji6]!



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[cosmosis]

I agree with XX :)

When I woke up with a super low temp, I jumped on DH even though I had all negative OPK's. I t hink your low temp is a good sign.

[maximbella]

Really??? Ok you just made my day bc I woke up so frustrated. DH tried to BD this am and I had to shut him down. Feel awful since it's Valentine's Day... I am totally out of cheapies...I ordered through amazon and they should be coming late tonight. I'll pick up the CB one with just the smile or no smile? Or keep testing with the one that I have with the low/high/peak??


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[cosmosis]

how low are we talking? is it a big dip?

The pink ones with just the smiley are the ones XX and I were referring to.

[maximbella]

Really not loving the look of this chart...

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[Roedinga1]

your chart looks promising, but I don't know the history of your temps. Do you have a page where I can see multiple charts?

Check out my chart (in signature), see how my temp fluctuations got really small after implantation? I NEVER have small fluctuations, all of my charts are full of big ups and down with the occasional flat line for 2 days. So, in my personal situation, the small fluctuations are what made me really try hard to get my two lines in a picture. I just knew that a bean had implanted :)

You girls are so techy! [emoji6] I have no clue how to create a link to my charts. Do I need a certain level of membership with FF?

Looking back at old charts, Like you, I tend to have much larger temp fluctuations leading up to AF.

Did you test this morning? Any progression?


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[maximbella]

Thanks, Cosmo - I'll look for those today. Does this not look classic anovulatory or what?!


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[Roedinga1]

Maxim, check out my chart. I always get a decent temp dip on O day!


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[maximbella]

Roe, for what it's worth, I think your temps look good. I look back at my bfp cycles and I actually had a lot more fluctuations in post o temps than when I wasn't pregnant. Fingers crossed. No chance you'll test?


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[Roedinga1]

Maxim, I promised myself I would wait until tomorrow. I'm dying. I'm going to try to be strong.


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[maximbella]

Good for you! You're a better woman than me...I start at 6dpo knowing it's going to be bfn and just to further stress me out! [emoji12] can't wait to hear how it goes! Are you O-3 for BD timing?


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[cosmosis]

You girls are so techy! [emoji6] I have no clue how to create a link to my charts. Do I need a certain level of membership with FF?

Looking back at old charts, Like you, I tend to have much larger temp fluctuations leading up to AF.

Did you test this morning? Any progression?


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I'm not sure if you use mobile or desktop, but you should go under "sharing" then "charting homepage" and you should be able to set it up that way :)

My wondfo is a bit darker today, but I can't be bothered to try and capture it on camera. They are just not camera friendly until the line is much darker I suppose. I'll be doing a frer tomorrow and I'll post that one :)


Thanks, Cosmo - I'll look for those today. Does this not look classic anovulatory or what?!


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Anovulatory cycles don't have a certain look, they just don't get a sustained rise. I think you will O very soon, you really just have to let it go and relax about it.

[Roedinga1]

Good for you! You're a better woman than me...I start at 6dpo knowing it's going to be bfn and just to further stress me out! [emoji12] can't wait to hear how it goes! Are you O-3 for BD timing?


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Ha I've been there girl! This our first month ttc after my m/c. With my m/c experience last fall, I'm trying to give myself as minimal stress this go round as possible. I found this site literally 3-5 days or so before it was go time! I didn't have time to do the dietary changes. I eat a lower calorie diet normally 12-1300/d, exercise 6 days/week but I eat a lot of protein and lift some weights [emoji57] I know the cut off is debunked but I wanted to give it a whirl. We did O-3, 1 attempt and jump and dump after 3-4 minutes.


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[maximbella]

I know, Cosmo....trying to chill (although I'm soooo bad at it lol)! Just got that CB opk and will test in an hour. [emoji51]

Roe, that's my ideal situation with timing. I know shettles has been debunked, but I'm still semi brainwashed about timing (both DD's were O-2). Can't wait to see how it goes....rooting for you!!!


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[Roedinga1]

I'm not sure if you use mobile or desktop, but you should go under "sharing" then "charting homepage" and you should be able to set it up that way :)

My wondfo is a bit darker today, but I can't be bothered to try and capture it on camera. They are just not camera friendly until the line is much darker I suppose. I'll be doing a frer tomorrow and I'll post that one :)



Anovulatory cycles don't have a certain look, they just don't get a sustained rise. I think you will O very soon, you really just have to let it go and relax about it.

Cosmo, maybe this will work??

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/476514">My Ovulation Chart



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[cosmosis]

Cosmo, maybe this will work??

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/476514">My Ovulation Chart



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This only shows me your current chart :) you'd need to set up your homepage to show 3 cycles.

[Roedinga1]

I'll probably figure it out by tomorrow when it's time to poas 🤣🤦🏼*♀️


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[maximbella]

Alright ladies, tested with the new CB with just the circle or smiley. After a 4.5 hour hold I got the big circle, so no LH surge yet. Should I test again this afternoon?

[cosmosis]

Yes, evening time is best imo. What you can do to stretch these tests out is use the cheapies and if you suspect it is positive, dip the digi in the same urine to verify.

[maximbella]

Thanks, cosmo! So this one is okay to use more than once a day? My other one (with the circle, flashing smiley and solid smiley) is only meant to be used once a day with fmu. Thanks!

[Roedinga1]

Good question!!! I was using my OPK (non advanced) twice per day but maybe I wasnt supposed to? Maybe that's the reason for my 1st surge (smiley) and another surge 3 days later [emoji848]


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[XXforhubby]

You can use the CBD more than once a day once the circle or smiley is gone of of the handle. It's not like the advanced. It's also calibrated to use urine from any time of the day. The directions say to be consistent to be able to detect your surge



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[maximbella]

Thanks, xx! So should I hold off on testing again tonight since I got the circle, or try again?

[Roedinga1]

I would try again this evening.


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[maximbella]

Thanks, xx! So should I hold off on testing again tonight since I got the circle, or try again?

[maximbella]

Also, just noticed that my cervix is low, but soft and open. What does that mean? I tried finding the chart that one of you posted, but can't scroll back that far! ;)

[XXforhubby]

I would test again tonight. Your cervical position is indicating you are getting close to ovulation. Close to ovulation it gets high, soft, open and wet. Since it's still low, you are approaching ovulation!



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[Roedinga1]

Double post

[cosmosis]

Yep, I agree with XX.

I got 2 frers and 2 CBD's. I got so ripped off with the frers the other day at the pharmacy grrr. I got them $10 cheaper today!

[Shannshaff]

You ladies are crazy, it took me forever to get caught up on posts. :)

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY

Robin - HUGS I am sorry to hear about your numbers. FXd for next month!

Cosomos - Congrats! Will be looking for that great line on the FRER tomorrow.

Max - I know I am late to the game, but I use Clinic Guard for my OPKs and find they are great for me. I use Sure Predict for my cheap hpt. You are just going to have to relax and just bd e4d or e3d until you either O or AF shows up. You seem to be quite stressed about everything and that puts you in BLUE territory as far as I know. If DH wants to have a good time tonight for Valentine's Day - go for it!!! He will be more apt to keep TC if you are not stressed and you let him get some BD time in. ;)

fox - good to hear from you. FX for you this month too.

If I forgot someone - I'm sorry. You all have been posting maniacs. ;)

AFM - I have such weird signs right now. I got a low temp this morning and EWCM today but a non-existent OPK. SO who knows what is going on. I forgot to do my OPK yesterday, so I guess I could have missed it, but seems early for the way my cycles are going. I am sick with a cold too, so that could be messing it all up.

[Pbn3]

Wowsers lol!!! What a catch up that was!

Robin I'm so sorry :( how are you holding up?

Cosmo cant wait for your frer!!

Maxim I think Shannshaff makes an excellent point about bding if hubby puts the moves on. If you need another cycle to keep trying then give him some honey to keep him sweetened up 😉

What cd are you on shannshaff? And when do you usually o?

Afm - I'm cd3 so the waiting to o begins.... will start using opk cd12 and expect to o cd14 as usual. My period began the night before I recorded as cd1 as it was just before bed. So weird as for my entire life my af has started with fmu. Since my losses though and maybe even when I was swaying? it's mostly come during the day or evening or sometimes starts as spotting (which I never ever got, always started in one heap lol). Anyway enough musing about my af 😂😂😂

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[Pbn3]

Testing to see if link to my chart worked....

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48

[Pbn3]

Its blank when I click on it but I remember last time I couldn't see it thru my own link either. Can someone see if they can?

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48

[cosmosis]

It's blank hun, you have to go into settings and adjust what you allow for others to see :)

[Roedinga1]

The links aren't working for me [emoji848]


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[Pbn3]

Thanks ladies. I had a look at my Tapatalk settings cosmo and cant see anything that 'hides' of doesn't allow to be seen.... I did the same thing I used last year to add my chart link so not sure what's going on. Will have to have a play with it :)

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[XXforhubby]

I see it Pbn3!



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[cosmosis]

wait, it's supposed to be blank if it's still AF and no temps. Derp.

In that case, yes I can see it too :)

[Roedinga1]

Me too! I see Jan and Feb charts now [emoji1303]


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[Pbn3]

Yay!! Thanks ladies!!

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48

[maximbella]

Shan and Pbn, thanks....I'm totally working on just relaxing (already on my 2nd glass of wine). Got a negative on OPK this evening, but not going to let it stress me out! ;)

[Roedinga1]

Let poas countdown begin!! I've stayed strong all day but morning can't come soon enough.... 10dpo! Finally!


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[Pbn3]

Cant wait roe!!! 😀😀😀

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[Nurseandi]

I think I'm 8dpo, had what I thought maybe was a very faint pos, but could have been evap (I forgot and looked a little later, oops!!) but I couldn't see anything today.

I'm unbelievably weepy, my nipples are uber sensitive and I have low down heaviness in my pelvis.

I could be making things up but I feel like I will see a BFP in a few days!


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[Pbn3]

Fx nurseandi 😀!! What hpts are you using?

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[Roedinga1]

Nurseandi, I've had similar symptoms. Heaviness in lower abdomen 4-7DPO. Fatigue. No breast soreness but today I started having a tingly feeling that kind of feels like milk letting down when I was nursing. FX for you!!


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[Nurseandi]

Fx nurseandi [emoji3]!! What hpts are you using?

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48

Wondfo, but after reading some reviews I wish I was using something different!

What about you?


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[Pbn3]

I'm an frer freak myself 😂😂

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48

[Pbn3]

Lots of ladies here use wondfo's so I think they're pretty good 😁

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48

[Roedinga1]

I've used both and I've gotten comparable results. Last time I used them I just wee in a cup and dip one and then the other for comparison.


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[Nurseandi]

I've used both and I've gotten comparable results. Last time I used them I just wee in a cup and dip one and then the other for comparison.


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I figured if I get a faint positive in the next few days I will go buy something more expensive :) but hate to spend the money until I'm at least a little farther out from O.


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[Roedinga1]

Agree!! One of the many reasons I promised myself I'd wait until 10dpo to test! Hardest thing I've ever done [emoji30]


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[foxtrotmama]

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I'd love to have gotten a positive today (CD14) but at least it looks like I'm fading in nicely.

[Nurseandi]

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I'd love to have gotten a positive today (CD14) but at least it looks like I'm fading in nicely.

Looks good!! Maybe tomorrow? How often do you test?


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[Pbn3]

Yay foxtrotmama!! Hope you see a positive in the next day or so!

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[cosmosis]

Good morning lovelies :)

I came to post my frer for this morning.

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There is definitely progression :) I am very disappointed at how light frers are though. My wondfo is much darker than my frer today lol. I'll have to wait 4 days from now to take my last frer so I get a bright line, maybe even later than that?

So for the question about wondfos, they are very reliable and cheap. I do love them, BUT if you get a BFP, you will be hurting your eyesight for a few days until you can see it clearly. It does pick up very early though, sooner than frers. Capturing it on camera is another story. LOL.

I'll post my wondfo progression in a bit :)

@Fox, looks like O is heading your way soon!!

@Roe, where's your pic! :D

[Pbn3]

Oh my cosmo that's an easy peasy line!!! Congratulations again 🎉🎉🎉🎉 How many dpo again? Please post the wondfo's progression as this is your first frer right? I was away a couple days but thought I caught up lol

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[Pbn3]

Xxforhubby have you heard from essnce or maiden? I think of them often and wonder how they are....

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[Roedinga1]

Yay!!! Cosmo!!! It's beautiful!!

AFM, I don't really see anything but I'll post it for you. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/a9523549e261793e6b1b0b4168bfbd81.jpg.

And here is my chart for today...
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[Pbn3]

Roe I don't know if its the backdrop (if thats a benchtop it's gorgeous 😀) but I could swear I see just a *hint of a line! Not trying to get your hopes up just being honest (so I've been guilty of line eye in the past 😂) do you have any frers?

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[Roedinga1]

Roe I don't know if its the backdrop (if thats a benchtop it's gorgeous [emoji3]) but I could swear I see just a *hint of a line! Not trying to get your hopes up just being honest (so I've been guilty of line eye in the past [emoji23]) do you have any frers?

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Haha you're sweet. That's the granite in my bathroom ☺ I did an frer and I hate the curved handle. I can't get a picture to save my life. I took the darn thing apart and when I hold it up to the light I swear I can see a faint pink line. Obviously, can't get a picture of that.


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[Pbn3]

Meant to add too that your clustered temps are looking good as well! Lets hope tomorrow's tests shed more light (and lines 😉) on the situation!! This part of the 2ww is so exciting!! And exasperating lol!!

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[Pbn3]

How many wondfo's do you have? Will you do another at nighttime? Its 9pm here so hopefully I'll wake to good news again!

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[cosmosis]

Oh my cosmo that's an easy peasy line!!! Congratulations again 🎉🎉🎉🎉 How many dpo again? Please post the wondfo's progression as this is your first frer right? I was away a couple days but thought I caught up lol

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Thank you hun :) I am either 12 or 13dpo, I marked it 13dpo though based on my O day override. I will get the wondfos together shortly.

Yay!!! Cosmo!!! It's beautiful!!

AFM, I don't really see anything but I'll post it for you. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/a9523549e261793e6b1b0b4168bfbd81.jpg.

And here is my chart for today...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/ee0c70175802d6fa4432cbe1724d7e2f.png


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Do you have a wondfo opk you can line it up with? That's how I spotted my shadow line, otherwise I would have classified it as blank/negative. I can't see anything on it, but I don't expect to just yet. Your chart looks very promising, I hope your BFP is on its way! <3

[Pbn3]

Cosmo can you post your chart, sorry if you have a link via website I only use tapatalk....

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[Roedinga1]

Pbn3, I have a handful of Wondfos and 2 more frer. I can do another tonight. If I remember correctly, my first BFP with my last pregnancy was an evening test.
Cosmo, I never trust myself to read the wondfo ovulation tests so I just use the digital ones [emoji53]
At this point, my chart is keeping my hope alive. I know it's early.
Thanks ladies!


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[cosmosis]

Sure thing :)

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Research mode marks O as CD17, FAM and Advanced both say CD19 and I personally feel it is CD18 and since I'm the one with the uterus, I call the shots here LOL.

I'll be back with wondfo progression.

[Pbn3]

I'm going to say cd19 or 20 (in leui of missing temp) look like o day for me lol but as you said you know your own body best! Look at those lovely clustered temps after a mountain range start lol 💙💙😀

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[Pbn3]

Momamia any update from you? Still looking good for end of feb o? Can't wait till this is us testing 😀

And tfahn you've been super quite!! Where are you!!??

Netti any news from you?

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[Pbn3]

And while I'm hogging the thread I'll just add that apparently the curved handled frers aren't as sensitive as the straight handled ones Roe! Luckily we only get the latter here in Australia that I know of!

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[Roedinga1]

Cosmo, I'm a freak and saved positive tests from last fall [emoji85]
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[Pbn3]

Roe call me nuts but I'm sure I see something there.... God I hope I'm right!!!!

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[Pbn3]

But only as is, if I zoom in I lose it 😕

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[Pbn3]

Totally random post but it's too late at night to tell the few IRL friends I have lol 😂😂 So I was thinking of Steve Irwin today (as I said, talk about random) and how he met Terri at the Australia Zoo and was going to google it so I could have the 'good feel' read again but completely forgot about it. Just now I went on Facebook and seen this... I know its not Steve Irwin but what the hell!!!!! Is google reading my mind 😂😂😂😂 https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170215/f0e4c23f6bf1e91e0d184265c80493f3.jpg

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[cosmosis]

eeeeeeek!! Roe,I believe I see something there. Order a 25pack so you can freely POAS. I used up almost half of mine the first 3 days. Now I'm just doing one per day for progression. BTW, you are not a freak. I saved DD's BFP's from 2006 LOL!

I can't wait to see the next one :)

Ppbn3, here is my wondfo progression

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How I managed to get 10dpo on camera for you guys is beyond me. I'm telling you, it was divine intervention. I saw the line a day or two before that. LOL.

Ok so hear me out on the O day thing, just because it is important for me to be sure for dating purposes:

*On CD19, I had snot CM, it was no longer clear or as stretchy as 17 and 18dpo.
*My cervix was lower on CD19 and on CD20 it was so low, it was almost at my vag opening and super duper firm.
*I had hot flashes the night of CD17 and this is very typical on O day for me, I usually don't get much sleep the night before O. This is due to all the hormones doing all sorts to get the egg out.
*If I had O'd on CD20, this would put implantation on CD26 and I was already getting a very faint line by then.

These are my reasons why I'm sticking with CD18 as O day. There's a chance of two beans, in which case it would explain some things, but I'm not holding my breath for that lol.

ETA: looooooool on your crock post. Only in Australia :p hahaha. Here in Canada, we also get flat frers, not curved ones :D

[Roedinga1]

25 pack ordered ✔️
I was going to try SMU just for comparison because I've never done that before. I've only had a few sips of water to get me through my workout. How long should I try to hold?

Cosmo, your progression is lovely and gives me hope [emoji1316] I'm a firm believer in listening to your body. I can almost always pinpoint O day because I know my body by now and I'm confident about pinpointing it!

Thank both of you ladies for your thoughts and encouragement.



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