TTC BOY November Chit Chat Thread - All welcome!!

[Flava]

Oh wow!!! I just had this "feeling" to write this letter ;)
I wouldn't say I am wiccan but I am definate spiritual. I have seen spirit since a little girl, even saw the spirit of DD2 before she was conceived. I do angel and tarot cards, I have always had a pretty strong "gift" with clairsentience although need to work on how to do it when I want to do it. I often get feelings/thoughts and visions pop up randomly. Really wish I could do it on command though. I don't talk about it much because I get bombarded with people wanting to test me out/know things etc and because I have not learnt how to do this properly I find it VERY draining. If I do a card reading for someone I am left lethargic and tired for a good 24 hours!

I did a little note to just in case lol.This card reading is awesome! I would bombard you for a reading but your post kinda say back off LOL
Hope everything was good last night! GL

[Flava]

Bec- GL to you ! Hope O is soon!

[Flava]

So I asked Ruby again because she said girl baby next but I had a m/c and so my situation changed . She wanted to know when I conceived all the losses and when was the due dates for them but i only know this last one so i had to send that to her.
This is what she said.



Of course Im happy but she said girl before , right so I guess Im at 50/50 lol

[Foxy]

TTC5 - Great pH! Good luck, hun! xx

[Hobbermittens]

So I asked Ruby again because she said girl baby next but I had a m/c and so my situation changed . She wanted to know when I conceived all the losses and when was the due dates for them but i only know this last one so i had to send that to her.
This is what she said.



Of course Im happy but she said girl before , right so I guess Im at 50/50 lol
Yay Flava! She told me that same thing basically... isn't it weird that you and I have had the same reading twice?? She is really nice, anyway. I hope she is right this time!!

[Hobbermittens]

FX it shows soon Bec!

Ok so I am confused and worried :(

Yesterday morning CBFM was LOW. OPK was negative although over the course of the day I started fading in.

I tested at each wee so was testing quite a bit! As the evening drew closer I had a funny feeling it would be + that night. 10pm I got a positive or very very close to! I had watery CM and good O pains during the arvo and evening.

DH had released just 24 hrs prior so I did not want to attempt last night PLUS my monitor said LOW that morning! Small temp drop that morning too (see my chart in my sig)

This morning, temp dropped a tiny bit more and I got a + opk and my monitor went right to PEAK!!! I completely missed the HIGH. VERY wet, slippery and when I check inside my finger is covered in EWCM. Some mild O pains not as much as yesterday but still enough to let me know they are there. I continued testing with OPK's and they were +'s. This evening, 8pm the OPK is starting to fade out. I know you are not meant to check the test sticks of the monitor but I just wanted to compare the lines with all the previous ones and this morning the test line was heaps dark. Last night it was dark enough to see but not quite as dark as the control. Now this evening it has gone back like last night.

I am a bit confused and worried about the fact I skipped the high completely, I surged REALLY fast and my fade out is happening really quickly too? I was planning to attempt tonight at around 10pm when kids are all in bed and has been 48 hrs since last release for DH BUT do you think I am entering girl zone if my OPK is fading out already or am I in safe zone already??

HELP! :(

Did you DTD? If it were me, I wouldn't. I would feel like it was too close to the girl zone. :( I'm sorry! BUT I have never used that monitor, only regular opk sticks, and they don't fade in and out like that. COuld it be possible that you had too dilute of urine when you tested one or two of the times? That would make it not show up as dark...?

[skrimpy]

GL if you DTD TTC5. I think we need to make a sticky about the CBFM and the sticks b/c so many gals are confused by them... It's important to remember that the monitor is testing for 2 hormones, so the lines represent Estrogen and LH.

When your Estrogen is Low you get a dark line and a Low reading on the monitor. I get this every day b/c I am breastfeeding Honor and not cycling yet.

When your Estrogen starts rising the estrogen line gets Lighter. This gives you a High.

When your LH surge begins the LH line gets Dark (usually you see the faint Estrogen line, too) and that's when you get a Peak.

After your first Peak you are automatically given a second Peak then a High.

The LH line is closer to the dip stick side, the Estrogen is closer to the end you hold when you POAS.

[Flava]

Yay Flava! She told me that same thing basically... isn't it weird that you and I have had the same reading twice?? She is really nice, anyway. I hope she is right this time!!

Yes she is very nice for sure. And she know this was a re read for me she still had my old reading! I never told her we hope for a boy I just told her this last time that they all the same gender.
it is just a reading but sure make us feel better , right?

[WashingtonPromise]

Hi everyone, glad to see so many attempts or about to.

I have a sinus infection now after the stomach bug....yeah. I only get sick if I am preggo. I got a nasty cold last Sunday and now this......I just need some relief and sleep......

[TTC5]

As polite as Ruby is, I think she is full of it :( Just after the $$ if you ask me!!

So we DTD last night and I think my urine was just diluted lol cos I tested this morning with fmu and my opk was +. I will check with my next urine as the + could have had the hormones from during the night. Also, my CBFM is not asking me for another test??!!!!!!!

Oh and the bloody batteries on my thermometer died too so I can't check my temp GRRRRRRRR typical hey LOL

[melon]

As polite as Ruby is, I think she is full of it :( Just after the $$ if you ask me!!

So we DTD last night and I think my urine was just diluted lol cos I tested this morning with fmu and my opk was +. I will check with my next urine as the + could have had the hormones from during the night. Also, my CBFM is not asking me for another test??!!!!!!!

Oh and the bloody batteries on my thermometer died too so I can't check my temp GRRRRRRRR typical hey LOL

YAY!! your attempt and sway looks great....your PH is terrific. GL...hope you get your sticky blue bean....

[Hobbermittens]

So we DTD last night and I think my urine was just diluted lol cos I tested this morning with fmu and my opk was +. I will check with my next urine as the + could have had the hormones from during the night. Also, my CBFM is not asking me for another test??!!!!!!!

Oh and the bloody batteries on my thermometer died too so I can't check my temp GRRRRRRRR typical hey LOL

Are you DTD again tonight? Hope all goes well!!

[Flava]

TTC5 -good luck for tonight if you go again!

[TTC5]

Not going again DH released this morning.

[TTC5]

As polite as Ruby is, I think she is full of it :( Just after the $$ if you ask me!!

So we DTD last night and I think my urine was just diluted lol cos I tested this morning with fmu and my opk was +. I will check with my next urine as the + could have had the hormones from during the night. Also, my CBFM is not asking me for another test??!!!!!!!

Oh and the bloody batteries on my thermometer died too so I can't check my temp GRRRRRRRR typical hey LOL

Yep +opk today. Damn cbfm not working and my thermometer maybe it's a sign when things do not go as planned you get pregnant LOL?!

[skrimpy]

5 I think you're not getting asked for a test stick b/c you already got peak. It's going to give you peak then high automatically now.

[TTC5]

It still says CD 16... or maybe that is what I am today, does it automatically put it at peak the day after the peak or something?

[Flava]

Oh sorry what is wrong with this Dh's anyway ?? can't they wait 1 day? If mine try to pull this I will kick his...I better tell him to make sure lol
I don't think your monitor is broken it just don't ask for any more test because you are on CD15 maybe?or did it asked last month after CD15? Because it don't ask after some days are over.
I O'd late last month and di not asked after CD18.

have to go good nigh all

[TTC5]

Well last month I O'd later and it still asked...

I'm not sure will have to check FF see if I am CD 16 today, thought I was 17 lol

[Kris217]

Yep +opk today. Damn cbfm not working and my thermometer maybe it's a sign when things do not go as planned you get pregnant LOL?!

LOL that's what happened in my case. My donor was away, I wasn't even prepared to do an insemination until a few hours before it actually happened and I got pregnant.

[TTC5]

your big scan tomorrow hey? ;)

[love being a mummy]

As polite as Ruby is, I think she is full of it :( Just after the $$ if you ask me!!

So we DTD last night and I think my urine was just diluted lol cos I tested this morning with fmu and my opk was +. I will check with my next urine as the + could have had the hormones from during the night. Also, my CBFM is not asking me for another test??!!!!!!!

Oh and the bloody batteries on my thermometer died too so I can't check my temp GRRRRRRRR typical hey LOL

I read that you aren't supposed to use your fmu



Not going again DH released this morning.
wow he got it last night but had to release this morning, grrr Men why can't they just do what we want them to do lol

Good luck sending you lots of BFP and blue vibes xx

[TTC5]

I read that you aren't supposed to use your fmu



wow he got it last night but had to release this morning, grrr Men why can't they just do what we want them to do lol

Good luck sending you lots of BFP and blue vibes xx

No your not meant to but because my last opk from last night looked like it was fading in I wanted to check if maybe my urine was too diluted. I check this morning knowing it would have had traces of lh from yesterday/during the night. It was + so my urine was just too diluted ( it was as clear as water from all the lemon water I drink lol).

Still a + today too...

[love being a mummy]

Still a + today too...

So what does mean, did you DTD too early ? or too late? or was it perfect?

[TTC5]

I am guessing I have ovulated today so the sperm would be waiting in the crypts for around 12-18 hrs before the egg was released, which I *think* is good for blue? I'd rather than be there now than have risked going in to O+12 that was my main concern.

[Kris217]

your big scan tomorrow hey? ;)

Yep at 1:30! My sister didn't want to know what it was but she'd see it on facebook or someone would slip up so we've decided to get it written down on a piece of paper and put into an envelope and on the way home we'll stop in at her house and she can open it first and tell us what we're having.

[Flava]

I read that you aren't supposed to use your fmu

The CBEFM says to use FMU to test. I always do.

[Flava]

TTC5-so you do another BD today?
kris-good luck to you! Hope you hear boy but either way it's your first baby and you are going to love it no matter what!
There is nothing like holding your own newborn baby!:awe:

[TTC5]

Good Luck Kris and can't wait to hear!!!!!!!

[TTC5]

TTC5-so you do another BD today?
kris-good luck to you! Hope you hear boy but either way it's your first baby and you are going to love it no matter what!
There is nothing like holding your own newborn baby!:awe:

No just did the once ;)

[TTC5]

Kris - how did you go today?!

[Kris217]

It's a girl!!! Still in shock cos we were thinking it was a boy. Oh well she's healthy and that's the main thing. My placenta is too low, only 1cm from my cervix so they need to recheck that but everything else is fine. I don't want anyone to worry their sway might not work, I didn't give it 100%, I wasn't even planning on trying that month plus I think my donor has something to do with it. He is a vegetarian so his diet could have come into it, I doubt he has much testosterone and he is so thin it's not funny. So yeah that might have effected the out come.

[TTC5]

Congratulations guys!! Now for you to go and shop for girl things hey!!! I bet Sarah is stoked, she wanted a little girl, hey? Can I add you to our tally?

[Kris217]

Congratulations guys!! Now for you to go and shop for girl things hey!!! I bet Sarah is stoked, she wanted a little girl, hey? Can I add you to our tally?

Thanks girl, yes Sarah wanted a girl but for my sake she wanted it to be a boy. We're just glad we got pregnant at all and are expecting a daughter that is healthy. I will go through our baby boxes in a few days to see what I have and don't have.....all I bought for so long was boy stuff! My sister has an 18 month old girl and 5 month old girl so she gave me a lot of their stuff. She's happy it's a girl too, our girls will be close cousins so that's nice. Sure you can add me to the tally.

[TTC5]

Oh that is going to be great then she will have lots of girl cousins :) Off to add!!

[love being a mummy]

Congratulations on your baby girl.

[ELP]

Congratulations on your little girl Kris!!!

[Flava]

kris-congrats on your baby girl!!!:celebrate::cheer::XX: She is sure special !

[Flava]

Now we had to change time 1 hour back. How do you guys temp? I temped on the new time so 1 hr. late now. On cd 11 is that ok or I better go back to the old one the whole cycle?

[LolaInLove]

Hi everyone, glad to see so many attempts or about to.

I have a sinus infection now after the stomach bug....yeah. I only get sick if I am preggo. I got a nasty cold last Sunday and now this......I just need some relief and sleep......

Heya WP! So sorry you are so under the weather. I am the same way and get sick easily when pg. I hope you can find some relief soon! Do you have a scan or 1st appt coming up soon?

[LolaInLove]

Congrats, Kris!!!! I am so happy that she is healthy and doing well! Your little one will have a blast with her cousins, how sweet!

[LolaInLove]

TTC5, your DH must be in his 20s still, they don't do that sort of stuff when they near 40, LOL! (release all the damn time that is...) I told my DH that we are just going to dtd every other day starting now (I'm CD6) and I am sure there will be a night or two that I have to wrangle it out of him and put on some sexy panties or something. But hey, just wait and see what happens, I think you had good timing! And you guys, please don't mind that psychic's readings.....as much as I think they are lovely and also believe that some do have psychic powers, they are also wrong sometimes. And I am sure a LOT of them are fakes also.

Bec, how'd you go over the weekend?

[melon]

Congratulations Kris...your little girl will be so thrilled to have close cousins..who can grow up together like friends... are you doing OK as you were swaying for boy?

[hope.ful]

Congrats, Kris! Little girls are so much fun!

I am CD 7 and we are going to continue to try again. I went to the dr for my annual physical and to talk to her about our ttc problems (VERY low temperatures, ttc 6 months to no avail) and she checked my thyroid and hormone levels and everything looks good - yay! We're not very strictly on the diet, but are going to jump back on it in the next day or so. DH is so good with the diet, but he's so sick of it, especially bc he loves his coffee when it's cold! I am taking a prenatal plus Flax oil, fish oil, D3, and folic acid. I do drink whole milk (sorry IG fans, but my SIL got her boy with lots of whole milk), but try to stay away from the sugar and eat lots of potassium. Here's hoping it works this month!! =)

[WashingtonPromise]

Heya WP! So sorry you are so under the weather. I am the same way and get sick easily when pg. I hope you can find some relief soon! Do you have a scan or 1st appt coming up soon?


Hey Lola!!!

Thanks for the sympathy. I was getting better and then was out too late last night at a bon fire....I knew I would pay for it today. We have our own doppler, so I we are checking for a h/b tonight and I will probably wait until after Christmas to go to the midwife, unless I can not shack this cold. I normally have uneventful pregnancies and would just rather wait.....who knows I may get a wild hair and have to see the baby!!!

Congrats Kris on the baby girl!!! Any pics?

Great to read all the attempts going on, GL ladies!!!

[Hobbermittens]

It's a girl!!! Still in shock cos we were thinking it was a boy. Oh well she's healthy and that's the main thing. My placenta is too low, only 1cm from my cervix so they need to recheck that but everything else is fine. I don't want anyone to worry their sway might not work, I didn't give it 100%, I wasn't even planning on trying that month plus I think my donor has something to do with it. He is a vegetarian so his diet could have come into it, I doubt he has much testosterone and he is so thin it's not funny. So yeah that might have effected the out come.

Congrats Kris! You will love your little girl. I always wanted boys, but my first was a girl, and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed girl stuff (I am a total tomboy). :)

[Hobbermittens]

TTC5, your DH must be in his 20s still, they don't do that sort of stuff when they near 40, LOL! (release all the damn time that is...)

My 37 year old DH does! EVERY MORNING!! EVen after getting some the night before! He is a horny devil. I seriously had to remind him EVERY MORNING when we were doing our attempt that he needed to keep his hands off--and he even did it once then anyway!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Ttc5- I ink your timing is great and yep you get your bfp when it all goes wrong lol This time I o'd late, dh forgot the caffeine and my diet had been less then perfect for the first week after AF.

Bec- good for you! Pinpointing O is the worst part of all this and wil help you get the timing you're looking for! If you've got it when you poop you've probably got way more cm then you realize! Tmi but I had a bunch coming out but dh said I had tons at my cervix.

Kris- congrats on your healthy baby girl!!

Hobber- my dh too! He's 34 and asking him to lay off for 4 days was akin to spouse abuse lol

[TTC5]

TTC5, your DH must be in his 20s still, they don't do that sort of stuff when they near 40, LOL! (release all the damn time that is...) I told my DH that we are just going to dtd every other day starting now (I'm CD6) and I am sure there will be a night or two that I have to wrangle it out of him and put on some sexy panties or something. But hey, just wait and see what happens, I think you had good timing! And you guys, please don't mind that psychic's readings.....as much as I think they are lovely and also believe that some do have psychic powers, they are also wrong sometimes. And I am sure a LOT of them are fakes also.

Bec, how'd you go over the weekend?

He is 28 :)

[TTC5]

Congrats, Kris! Little girls are so much fun!

I am CD 7 and we are going to continue to try again. I went to the dr for my annual physical and to talk to her about our ttc problems (VERY low temperatures, ttc 6 months to no avail) and she checked my thyroid and hormone levels and everything looks good - yay! We're not very strictly on the diet, but are going to jump back on it in the next day or so. DH is so good with the diet, but he's so sick of it, especially bc he loves his coffee when it's cold! I am taking a prenatal plus Flax oil, fish oil, D3, and folic acid. I do drink whole milk (sorry IG fans, but my SIL got her boy with lots of whole milk), but try to stay away from the sugar and eat lots of potassium. Here's hoping it works this month!! =)

Whole milk is GREAT!!

[Flava]

He is 28 :)

not fair...

[Flava]

Congrats, Kris! Little girls are so much fun!

I am CD 7 and we are going to continue to try again. I went to the dr for my annual physical and to talk to her about our ttc problems (VERY low temperatures, ttc 6 months to no avail) and she checked my thyroid and hormone levels and everything looks good - yay! We're not very strictly on the diet, but are going to jump back on it in the next day or so. DH is so good with the diet, but he's so sick of it, especially bc he loves his coffee when it's cold! I am taking a prenatal plus Flax oil, fish oil, D3, and folic acid. I do drink whole milk (sorry IG fans, but my SIL got her boy with lots of whole milk), but try to stay away from the sugar and eat lots of potassium. Here's hoping it works this month!! =)
hope you get that bfp this time!

[TTC5]

Now we had to change time 1 hour back. How do you guys temp? I temped on the new time so 1 hr. late now. On cd 11 is that ok or I better go back to the old one the whole cycle?

Found this on FF for you!
Do I have to do anything special to chart my BBT when the time changes for Daylight Saving Time?
The effect of Daylight Saving Time (DST) on your temperature is usually limited to the day of the change because you adjust quite quickly. In addition, the exact effect depends strongly on your own metabolism. Some people will see no effect at all while others will see a slight change (increase or decrease). Because in general having one temperature slightly off will not change your chart interpretation, Fertility Friend's recommendation is to record your temperature as usual without correcting it in any manner. We recommend that you keep taking the temp at the same time. If you took it at 6 in the morning before the change, then take it at 6 in the morning after the change.

[Kris217]

Here are a few photos from yesterday. Still in shock this morning, it's weird even saying her instead of it. Sarah seems fine with it, she's working on names but I'm not even thinking about that right now.

[love being a mummy]

awwww hello baby girl :)

[TTC5]

Hey Kris, do you feel you have some GD or just in shock cos you were so not expecting a girl?

She is so cute!!

[Kris217]

Hey Kris, do you feel you have some GD or just in shock cos you were so not expecting a girl?

She is so cute!!

Yeah I am disappointed to a degree, I think because this is my only baby and I wanted it to be a boy. The severe morning sickness should have told me it was a girl, but the slower heart rate had people saying it was a boy. I know you can't count on either of those to be 100% accurate but I still thought I had a good chance of a boy. I don't think my timing was good though. I wasn't tracking my ovulation cos my donor was away and I wasn't going to try and I think I ovulated the night before I did the first insemination so like 24 hours after.

[love being a mummy]

We missed release last night cause we weren't talking grrr. MEN!!! Why can't they just be normal lol

[Kris217]

We missed release last night cause we weren't talking grrr. MEN!!! Why can't they just be normal lol

haha no such thing! :P

[Kris217]

I guess I need to move out of this boy thread, might be back if Sarah wants to try for a boy :)

[Hobbermittens]

I guess I need to move out of this boy thread, might be back if Sarah wants to try for a boy :)

Kris, you are totally welcome to stay here!! Your little girl is really cute, by the way. :)

[TTC5]

I guess I need to move out of this boy thread, might be back if Sarah wants to try for a boy :)

Noooooooooo don't you go anywhere!

[love being a mummy]

I just worked out if I don't attempt this month my next O date is New Years eve :)

[TTC5]

I just worked out if I don't attempt this month my next O date is New Years eve :)

Cool!!!!

[TTC5]

Hi all, so the day after DTD the temp died during taking my temp it got up to 36.6 before dying. I decided to just put this in today anyway and FF has put me at 3dpo smack back on O we DTD. I hope this timing is ok!!

[Flava]

kris- omg that baby is sooooo super cute! Look at her 2 little hands together and snuggling up next to you awwww!

[Flava]

ttc5-I don't know ...I would say you O'd on cd 16? not sure

[LolaInLove]

Congrats, Kris! Little girls are so much fun!

I am CD 7 and we are going to continue to try again. I went to the dr for my annual physical and to talk to her about our ttc problems (VERY low temperatures, ttc 6 months to no avail) and she checked my thyroid and hormone levels and everything looks good - yay! We're not very strictly on the diet, but are going to jump back on it in the next day or so. DH is so good with the diet, but he's so sick of it, especially bc he loves his coffee when it's cold! I am taking a prenatal plus Flax oil, fish oil, D3, and folic acid. I do drink whole milk (sorry IG fans, but my SIL got her boy with lots of whole milk), but try to stay away from the sugar and eat lots of potassium. Here's hoping it works this month!! =)

Hi Hopeful! Glad that your tests came back ok! I know how frustrating it is to ttc for a while with no result. You guys are doing a great job though, and I think you are wise to keep on the diet and supps, because you never know! Also wise to drink whole milk, we totally do that. Did your doctor say anything else or want any other tests? I don't think you are over 35, so I know they don't start worrying until it's been 12 months. And you really shouldn't worry!

[LolaInLove]

Hey Lola!!!

Thanks for the sympathy. I was getting better and then was out too late last night at a bon fire....I knew I would pay for it today. We have our own doppler, so I we are checking for a h/b tonight and I will probably wait until after Christmas to go to the midwife, unless I can not shack this cold. I normally have uneventful pregnancies and would just rather wait.....who knows I may get a wild hair and have to see the baby!!!

Congrats Kris on the baby girl!!! Any pics?

Great to read all the attempts going on, GL ladies!!!

I HATE it when I am almost better and then I go get out of the house and do something fun and put myself right back in the sickbed! I am sure you are beefing up on vitamins and natural cold remedies, so hopefully they kick it soon. How awesome that you have a doppler? I would be tempted to bust that thing out every day. I have this fantasy of never going to the doctor and such and just having a baby with a midwife, which I may end up doing (although the midwife here will see me throughout the pregnancy). That is so cool! Of course, we all would love to know what you end up having sooner than later, LOL!

Oh, and just thought of this: when I am pg and sick, I use a netti pot or sinus rinse....if you haven't tried that, it is awesome! I do it once a week anyway just to clean my sinuses out. I bet you have one already, but if you don't, you can get a plastic one and the saline packets at Walgreens and the like now.

Glad you are still hanging around and feel better soon! XXOO

[LolaInLove]

My 37 year old DH does! EVERY MORNING!! EVen after getting some the night before! He is a horny devil. I seriously had to remind him EVERY MORNING when we were doing our attempt that he needed to keep his hands off--and he even did it once then anyway!!!

REALLY? Maybe mine does too and I just don't know it, LOL. How do you know? Sorry to be TMI....I am kinda curious if mine does, because I am always accusing him of having zero sex drive, although he did surprise me last night. We've only been together for 3 years now, and my DH is pretty private about that stuff. The whole semen analysis thing was kinda awkward for us.

[LolaInLove]

I guess I need to move out of this boy thread, might be back if Sarah wants to try for a boy :)

Aww, we don't want you to, but if you feel like you need to......I hope you are doing ok.....I know what you mean about only baby and hoping it's a boy. I think a lot of us are working on our last and feel the same way, it's a boy now or never. BUT your baby girl is ADORABLE already and she is going to be super awesome! Most important thing is that you are blessed with a healthy beautiful baby!

[LolaInLove]

Hi all, so the day after DTD the temp died during taking my temp it got up to 36.6 before dying. I decided to just put this in today anyway and FF has put me at 3dpo smack back on O we DTD. I hope this timing is ok!!

PERFECT!!! FXFXFXFX

[LolaInLove]

I just worked out if I don't attempt this month my next O date is New Years eve :)

FUN! We conceived on NYE last year (it was my 1st m/c, not to be depressing), but hopefully you will have a sticky bean!

[WashingtonPromise]

Kris: Oh, I love the pic of her all snug inside you.....how sweet!!!! I am sure the whole donor thing was very hard to get all lined up....what a miracle to get preggo.

Lola: Not sure if we will deliver at the hospital or home....whatever we feel led to do. We bought the doppler when preg with child #5 and used it more that time, but with #6 I only used it a couple times. We lent it to someone and they used it several times a day....it crackles and turns off on it's own now. But, still works. We tried last night, but didn't find the h/b. It is really hard at 8wks, because you have to get it just right. But, DH is great at it and we will try again tonight. Oh, and I do not have a neti pot. I have tried to buy one several times and it grosses DH out....he just needs to get over it.

I love checking in on all you guys and can't wait to see all the BFP this month!!!

[WashingtonPromise]

Oh, I forgot.....

Lola: DH is taking me to see the Nutcracker this year!!!! I am so excited. Should I dress up?

[LolaInLove]

Oh FUN, WP! You will have a blast! Yes, it is an excellent reason to get gussied up and have a nice dinner beforehand. Are you bringing kids or is it date night? I have the best memories of going to see the Nutcracker in Houston when I was a child. It was our family tradition, and kind of kicked off Christmas for us. Now, I get to produce one and watch my DH and my girls (who auditioned and got some coveted children's roles) in it. The Nutcracker is a very special production for me, very near and dear to my heart. The music is so classic and beautiful, and it just makes you freaking happy at the end. Are you going to Atlanta Ballet?

You should DEFINITELY get a netti pot....my DH thinks it's gross also, but I just do it in the bathroom over the sink with the door closed. Seriously, it will give you such relief with a cold, and naturally! And you may find you really like using it throughout the year also, esp. with working on the farm and getting dirt/dust in your nose. They are cheap and you can buy saline packet refills or just make your own, too, with warm salt water. It is my saving grace when pg and sick!

[skrimpy]

Oh WP you will have so much fun! Enjoy!

Lola when I was a girl my mom and her best friends always got dressed up and dressed their girls up for a luncheon and matinee of The Nutcracker - it was such a highlight of my year. It's exciting that your girls are in it!

I'm feeling strange right now... some girlfriends who had babies several months before Honor are pg again and it makes me wistful, but we're SO not ready yet. I had a dream that I was pg with a baby boy last night though... of course it got really strange that my mom was also pg LOL. Probably because we were chatting about babies yesterday. Anyways, enough about me.

Can't wait to hear about more BFP's this month :)

[3Pink1Blue]

Kris- Gorgeous baby girl! Can't wait to see real pics of her! I don't want leave us or the grad thread but like Lola said, if you need to we understand :kiss:

Lbam- my nephew is a Xmas eve baby, all that eating has got to be good for a NYE blue bean!

Ttc5- I tink your timing is awesome, now the dreaded 2ww.

WP- ugh, I've got a cold too. Preg colds are brutal since we make so much extra mucus without extra germy help. Have fun at the Nutcracker, my dad took us very year!

Lola- well I think you've sold me on the netti pot, I'm sitting here with only one functional nostril so breathing sounds great lol

[LolaInLove]

Dude- netti pots are AWESOME. Get ready to enter a whole new world of clean and happy nasal passages!

Skrimpy, you guys have 5 kids! I wouldn't be ready for a while either! Just try to tell yourself that you need some time to enjoy Honor's infancy and prep for your next sway, lose some weight, etc. I know how you feel though, I am so ancy to get pregnant since everyone I know is having a baby right now also (IRL). I just have to tell myself that I will in time and try not to be unrealistic about my situation. Plus, I personally believe that it is better to bf your baby without another baby inside leaching any nutrients, but I am by no means a bf expert (even though I did bf two kids for a long time). I've heard it is not a big deal, but it would make me nervous that I was spreading myself too thin for 2 babies. So, maybe that will help you feel better.....that you need to let Honor be the baby for a while and get her nutritious milk all to herself before you get another bun in the oven? (:

[skrimpy]

ITA Lola - I want Honor to have her babyhood and plenty of mama milk before I get pg again. And early pregnancy is challenging enough without nursing so I like my LO's to have nursed long enough that I feel okay with weaning if need be. I feel pretty confident with our current plans to try in early 2013... it's just harder when it seems like everyone is pg or pg again! I'll send all my baby dust your way and live vicariously through you ;)

[LolaInLove]

Thanks, Skrimpy! I may not be the *best* one to live vicariously through, LOL, but we can both do that through the lovely preggos on this board! I really love that first year of babyhood, and I think it is so important for mommy and baby to really bond during that first year, so hopefully concentrating on that and the other kiddos will take your mind off it. How are your older kids doing with the baby? Are they helpful? My oldest is 9 right now too, younger is 6, and they are so eager for me to have a baby (which kinda makes it harder, too) so they can be little mamas.

[Hobbermittens]

How are your older kids doing with the baby? Are they helpful? My oldest is 9 right now too, younger is 6, and they are so eager for me to have a baby (which kinda makes it harder, too) so they can be little mamas.
I know you didn't ask ME this question, but I thought I would tell you that my 7 year old is AWESOME with my 19 month old. She is such a great big sister! THe baby asks for DD1 now when she falls down, or wants something... she loves her big sister better than anybody!

Your girls will do great when you have that little one, Lola. And you WILL have another baby!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

I love seeing a little sister run to a big one when they get hurt! I always wanted a close relationship with my sister but don't have one due to her judgmental nature and my mothers "you two figure it out" method of child raising. I want my girls to genuinely love and depend on each other so when mine do that it makes me feel like I've helped them acheive something so wonderful.

[Flava]

Yeah I would love to see that too...not happening much around here.

[Kris217]

Aww, we don't want you to, but if you feel like you need to......I hope you are doing ok.....I know what you mean about only baby and hoping it's a boy. I think a lot of us are working on our last and feel the same way, it's a boy now or never. BUT your baby girl is ADORABLE already and she is going to be super awesome! Most important thing is that you are blessed with a healthy beautiful baby!

Oh I know I'm blessed to be having a baby, just gotta get used to the idea of a girl as I've never thought of having one. The weird thing is in all my dreams since I've been pregnant the baby has always been a girl, maybe in the back of my mind I knew....who knows. I don't feel as though I need to leave the group, seeing others having boys doesn't upset me or anything. I'm about to go through my baby boxes to pack away the boy stuff and see what girl stuff I'll need as I think I have about 70% boy stuff! Oh well I like shopping so that gives me a good excuse to go :)
Thanks everyone :)

[Kris217]

kris- omg that baby is sooooo super cute! Look at her 2 little hands together and snuggling up next to you awwww!

I think she might be a snuggly baby, at my 12 weeks scan she was snuggled into my placenta and she was doing the same thing at the 20 week scan.

[TTC5]

Awww how cute!!! And hey you never know Sarah may carry a boy one day so hold on to that boy stuff ;)

[begonia]

Hugs and Congrats Kris! I know it's hard when you expect one gender but hear the other; but like everyone has already commented that is one cute babe! She will steal your heart immediately. I've said it before but I always wanted/felt I'd have boys, I do NOT see myself as really having much to offer my girls ... and when I heard DD1 was a girl I was bummed though nowhere near the GD I experienced with DD2 or 3. But oh my goodness. When I held her after she was born it was instant, and never for a second would I change her. I know you know all of this but sometimes it does help to hear it again :) Have fun shopping for her! Will you have any more scans before birth? I think it helps with bonding.

[begonia]

Awww how cute!!! And hey you never know Sarah may carry a boy one day so hold on to that boy stuff ;)

True!!!!

[TTC5]

Nice to see you Begonia :D
How are you going, girl? xx

[Kris217]

Awww how cute!!! And hey you never know Sarah may carry a boy one day so hold on to that boy stuff ;)

Oh, I don't think I could part with it even if I wanted to!

[Kris217]

Hugs and Congrats Kris! I know it's hard when you expect one gender but hear the other; but like everyone has already commented that is one cute babe! She will steal your heart immediately. I've said it before but I always wanted/felt I'd have boys, I do NOT see myself as really having much to offer my girls ... and when I heard DD1 was a girl I was bummed though nowhere near the GD I experienced with DD2 or 3. But oh my goodness. When I held her after she was born it was instant, and never for a second would I change her. I know you know all of this but sometimes it does help to hear it again :) Have fun shopping for her! Will you have any more scans before birth? I think it helps with bonding.

Thanks Begonia, Yes I will be having another scan or 2 before she is born. My placenta is 1cm away from my cervix so they want to see how it's going between 32 and 34 weeks. I'd like another scan just for some photos as well.
I know my situation is nothing to complain about, some of you ladies have gone through it time and time again and this is my first time. I'm getting used to the idea, I keep making myself say her or she instead of it or the baby. I do love her, just wasn't expecting her and I know once she is born I'll feel that love even more.

[TTC5]

Ladies need advice, do you think I should go to the dr and check that my levels are all ok?

I am worried something is wrong with me :(

I have had + OPKs all day today and last night. They are VERY positive no doubt about it!

My chart shows O was 4 days ago. And I am sure I did too....

I do not feel like I am ovulating right now...

And I am only 4 dpo so there is no way the OPK is picking up on conception this early.

I am freaking out something is wrong with me :(

So so sorry I keep going on about it but this has never happened to me. After O, I get - or a faint test line, if that...

[begonia]

Thanks Begonia, Yes I will be having another scan or 2 before she is born. My placenta is 1cm away from my cervix so they want to see how it's going between 32 and 34 weeks. I'd like another scan just for some photos as well.
I know my situation is nothing to complain about, some of you ladies have gone through it time and time again and this is my first time. I'm getting used to the idea, I keep making myself say her or she instead of it or the baby. I do love her, just wasn't expecting her and I know once she is born I'll feel that love even more.

It's all relative ... you can complain if you want/need to. Hope all is OK with the placenta! And more scans are great for bonding; I am glad you'll get one. I'm having another at 28 weeks b/c they couldn't see her heart well enough at 20 and I'm really looking forward to it. FWIW I still have a hard time referring to this baby as she/her when I speak about her. I usually still say the baby or it. It does take getting used to.

[begonia]

5 I would call your doc in the am. That's definitely odd if it isn't normal for you ... I mean, there's ALWAYS some LH in the urine, it's just not supposed to be enough to trigger a +OPK until right around O time. So it's strange that you're still getting positives. Don't freak out though! It's probably totally fine!

[TTC5]

I might do that see if they have any appointments for me... so google says that PCOS can do this but surely I would not have that because 1) I have had numerous scans and has never been any sigs of this and 2) I have had children already..

[begonia]

Interesting about the PCOS. You would think if you had it they would have caught it by now, yes. Hopefully your doc will have a good answer or at the very least be able to get you in soon.

[Kris217]

Could she have released another egg? I know some women can do that and end up with twins conceived on different dates.

[TTC5]

It's possible, quite rare though... saying that who knows if that is what happened with my first set of twins?

[love being a mummy]

FUN! We conceived on NYE last year (it was my 1st m/c, not to be depressing), but hopefully you will have a sticky bean!
Thank you :) Sorry for your loss xx




Lbam- my nephew is a Xmas eve baby, all that eating has got to be good for a NYE blue bean!
:) Awesome

[Plum3]

Hey ladies, before I go back and catch up on everything just wanted to update you on me :)

DH and I had a great few days away. I am 2dpo at the moment. I ended up getting my first positive OPK on our first night there and we were going to attempt then and 24 hours after that. Didn't quite work out that way though because I had a migraine and bad nausea. Poor DH even had an energy drink. Anyway we DTD the next morning. Unfortunately no energy drink for DH but I'm still pretty happy with our attempt. I am so hoping for a dirty weekend away baby ;)

[Plum3]

TTC5, I'm not sure about the positive OPKs continuing. Have you used OPKs after O before?

[Plum3]

Kris, congratulations on your healthy baby girl! :D

[love being a mummy]

Good luck Bec

[Plum3]

REALLY? Maybe mine does too and I just don't know it, LOL. How do you know? Sorry to be TMI....I am kinda curious if mine does, because I am always accusing him of having zero sex drive, although he did surprise me last night. We've only been together for 3 years now, and my DH is pretty private about that stuff. The whole semen analysis thing was kinda awkward for us.

My DH used to be private about it as well. We've been together 10 years now and it's only in the last 2-3 years that we've talked about it. He doesn't do it much by himself though. Only if we haven't had sex for a week or so due to AF or work or whatever.

[Plum3]

Good luck Bec

Thankyou!

[Plum3]

Congrats, Kris! Little girls are so much fun!

I am CD 7 and we are going to continue to try again. I went to the dr for my annual physical and to talk to her about our ttc problems (VERY low temperatures, ttc 6 months to no avail) and she checked my thyroid and hormone levels and everything looks good - yay! We're not very strictly on the diet, but are going to jump back on it in the next day or so. DH is so good with the diet, but he's so sick of it, especially bc he loves his coffee when it's cold! I am taking a prenatal plus Flax oil, fish oil, D3, and folic acid. I do drink whole milk (sorry IG fans, but my SIL got her boy with lots of whole milk), but try to stay away from the sugar and eat lots of potassium. Here's hoping it works this month!! =)

Good luck!

[Plum3]

Bec- good for you! Pinpointing O is the worst part of all this and wil help you get the timing you're looking for! If you've got it when you poop you've probably got way more cm then you realize! Tmi but I had a bunch coming out but dh said I had tons at my cervix.



I sure hope there was more at the cervix. We ended up getting the timing perfect. DTD at 5.30am and I O'd some time the same day.

[Plum3]

No just did the once ;)

Same with us! We're only 2 days apart. We can be poas buddies. You can take the lead ;)

[TTC5]

Bec sounds like you got it perfect!! Well done and FX for a blue BFP!!!

[Plum3]

Bec sounds like you got it perfect!! Well done and FX for a blue BFP!!!

You too!

[WashingtonPromise]

Lola: I am going out tomorrow....time to get the Netti. The ballet will just be DH and I. We thought about taking the older ones, too, next year. We are trying to decide if we are going to go with the Atlanta ballet or the Duluth ballet. The Duluth one is half the price and has great reviews. Any advice? I can not believe your daughters are going to be in the Nutcracker!!! What could be better than that?

TTC5: I have no idea about all the + OPKs?!?! Twins? Faulty OPKs? I hope your doc can give you an answer.

[LolaInLove]

I know you didn't ask ME this question, but I thought I would tell you that my 7 year old is AWESOME with my 19 month old. She is such a great big sister! THe baby asks for DD1 now when she falls down, or wants something... she loves her big sister better than anybody!

Your girls will do great when you have that little one, Lola. And you WILL have another baby!!!

Thanks for answering too! I should have actually directed that at everyone because most of us have oldests that are up there in age for baby assistance!

And thanks for the encouragement....I do believe it will happen also. I just have my shaky days when I get despondent about it. xxoo

[LolaInLove]

I love seeing a little sister run to a big one when they get hurt! I always wanted a close relationship with my sister but don't have one due to her judgmental nature and my mothers "you two figure it out" method of child raising. I want my girls to genuinely love and depend on each other so when mine do that it makes me feel like I've helped them acheive something so wonderful.

THIS is exactly why girls are awesome and why I love having daughters. My girls are best friends for life, and I love spending time with them myself. They would be so great with a baby, boy or girl. I am sure that poor kid would end up being the worst spoiled child on earth with having essentially 3 moms and then a dad who is the sappiest doter of a man ever. (See, this is why I want him to have his own baby so badly.)

[LolaInLove]

I think she might be a snuggly baby, at my 12 weeks scan she was snuggled into my placenta and she was doing the same thing at the 20 week scan.

Ahhhh those are the BEST! I know what you mean about getting used to the idea of a girl. I had to do the same with my #2 because everyone had me convinced it would be a boy (the ex's family mostly, because they wanted it to be a boy). I wouldn't say I had GD, but just had to rearrange my "thinking" so to speak. I am sure we all know exactly what I am talking about. Your baby sure is a cutie, Kris! All of them are! I love u/s!!!

[LolaInLove]

Ladies need advice, do you think I should go to the dr and check that my levels are all ok?

I am worried something is wrong with me :(

I have had + OPKs all day today and last night. They are VERY positive no doubt about it!

My chart shows O was 4 days ago. And I am sure I did too....

I do not feel like I am ovulating right now...

And I am only 4 dpo so there is no way the OPK is picking up on conception this early.

I am freaking out something is wrong with me :(

So so sorry I keep going on about it but this has never happened to me. After O, I get - or a faint test line, if that...

Not a bad idea to get a blood draw and check.....I had 4 days of +opks the month I took a bunch of DHEA (and also conceived the last time). Atomic said maybe I ovulated twice, and I saw your post about that but haven't had time to read yet....but probably nothing to worry about. Are you having o pains anymore? You would not even have implantation yet, so they are still detecting LH in your system.

[LolaInLove]

I sure hope there was more at the cervix. We ended up getting the timing perfect. DTD at 5.30am and I O'd some time the same day.

Bec, sounds perfect!!! Nice job! Vacation always ups your fertility, doesn't it? FX this does it for ya!

[LolaInLove]

Lola: I am going out tomorrow....time to get the Netti. The ballet will just be DH and I. We thought about taking the older ones, too, next year. We are trying to decide if we are going to go with the Atlanta ballet or the Duluth ballet. The Duluth one is half the price and has great reviews. Any advice? I can not believe your daughters are going to be in the Nutcracker!!! What could be better than that?

TTC5: I have no idea about all the + OPKs?!?! Twins? Faulty OPKs? I hope your doc can give you an answer.

What a fun date night! Well, I can tell you this: the reason the Duluth Ballet is cheaper is because they are a civic company, meaning their dancers are all students (youth-high school at the oldest). The Atlanta Ballet is all professional, like my company is, meaning all of my dancers are paid, this is their job all day long...they were once students also, but now are expected to get on that stage and not ever mess up, LOL. MOST of the time, the professional shows are way, way better, because we have a bigger budget for production and, of course, our dancers are the cream of the crop. However, civic companies are important, and it is good to support them too, because I pick graduating student from civic companies to join our pro company. I'd say go for whichever you feel like! Hope you have a blast!!!

And yes, Netti it up, you will thank me. :wink:

[LolaInLove]

HI Begonia! How are you doing? I miss you. xxoo

[LolaInLove]

OK everyone, check this out: I used to be a size 6, went up to a 12 with the boy diet for about a year and 4 months, and now have been back to my old eating habits (AND a vegetarian for 4 days now, LOL) for only a month and am a size 8 now. LOVIN' IT!!!!!!! I am so excited about the vegetarian diet....our whole family is doing it.....I have this hope that it will turn our situation around and make my DH become a super sperm factory. I've been reading about how it can change so much in your body in "The China Study," which I highly recommend!

:bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::blues perm::bluesperm::bluesperm:

[3Pink1Blue]

Kris - oh I hear ya darlin, it never occurred to me I'd have one girl let alone 3! I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world, you'll love it :) I've got a snuggler, they are the best!

B- Nothing to offer?! Love is enough :)

Bec - great timing, fx!!

Lola - FX for turning dh into a super sperm factory lol

[Hobbermittens]

Hey everyone, AF showed up yesterday afternoon, so I am on to round two. We won't attempt this cycle, because I screwed up the diet for the entire 2WW and DH wasn't good about taking his supps--I was completely sure I was pg! I felt pg and everything. Oh well. I am stuffing my face to make up for lost time!! Next attempt will be in December.

[Hobbermittens]

Hey ladies, before I go back and catch up on everything just wanted to update you on me :)

DH and I had a great few days away. I am 2dpo at the moment. I ended up getting my first positive OPK on our first night there and we were going to attempt then and 24 hours after that. Didn't quite work out that way though because I had a migraine and bad nausea. Poor DH even had an energy drink. Anyway we DTD the next morning. Unfortunately no energy drink for DH but I'm still pretty happy with our attempt. I am so hoping for a dirty weekend away baby ;)

I hope you get that "dirty weekend away" baby! GL!

[Hobbermittens]

FWIW I still have a hard time referring to this baby as she/her when I speak about her. I usually still say the baby or it. It does take getting used to.

That's how I was with #3. I really held on to a shred of hope that my u/s was wrong and that she was secretly a boy. I hated telling people I was having a girl; I felt embarrassed, like I failed at making a "good" baby. Begonia, I know I probably don't seem like I should be giving advice on this, since I have a boy, but I have read a lot of your posts, and I COMPLETELY understand how you are feeling right now. A lot of what you say I could have written myself. I just wanted to tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I am FINALLY starting to really enjoy my DD2 now that she is 19 months. I feel awful saying this, but for most of her first year, I really didn't enjoy her at all. :( I hate GD! I feel so guilty now for wasting all of her baby time wishing she were someone else. :(

[Hobbermittens]

REALLY? Maybe mine does too and I just don't know it, LOL. How do you know? Sorry to be TMI....I am kinda curious if mine does, because I am always accusing him of having zero sex drive, although he did surprise me last night. We've only been together for 3 years now, and my DH is pretty private about that stuff. The whole semen analysis thing was kinda awkward for us.

Oh, well, it took me a few years to figure him out. But he gets up really early in the morning (he works at 7am) and while the rest of the house is asleep, he looks at naked ladies on the computer and has fun! I accidentally caught him a couple times, when I couldn't sleep, and got up a few minutes after him. :oops: Now that he knows I know, we talk about it freely. He would be mortified to know that I am telling you all this!!

[melon]

Hey everyone, AF showed up yesterday afternoon, so I am on to round two. We won't attempt this cycle, because I screwed up the diet for the entire 2WW and DH wasn't good about taking his supps--I was completely sure I was pg! I felt pg and everything. Oh well. I am stuffing my face to make up for lost time!! Next attempt will be in December.

Ooops!!!! join me for december...

[melon]

Ladies need advice, do you think I should go to the dr and check that my levels are all ok?

I am worried something is wrong with me :(

I have had + OPKs all day today and last night. They are VERY positive no doubt about it!

My chart shows O was 4 days ago. And I am sure I did too....

I do not feel like I am ovulating right now...

And I am only 4 dpo so there is no way the OPK is picking up on conception this early.

I am freaking out something is wrong with me :(

So so sorry I keep going on about it but this has never happened to me. After O, I get - or a faint test line, if that...

TTC5 - sorry...i dont know nothing about this...hope everything is fine with the doc appointment.

[TTC5]

Not a bad idea to get a blood draw and check.....I had 4 days of +opks the month I took a bunch of DHEA (and also conceived the last time). Atomic said maybe I ovulated twice, and I saw your post about that but haven't had time to read yet....but probably nothing to worry about. Are you having o pains anymore? You would not even have implantation yet, so they are still detecting LH in your system.

Well last night the test was negative!!!! Who knows? Will recheck today. Def too early for hcg as implantation only starts at 5dpo at the earliest.

[TTC5]

Hey everyone, AF showed up yesterday afternoon, so I am on to round two. We won't attempt this cycle, because I screwed up the diet for the entire 2WW and DH wasn't good about taking his supps--I was completely sure I was pg! I felt pg and everything. Oh well. I am stuffing my face to make up for lost time!! Next attempt will be in December.

Yeah we have been off diet and supps too during this 2ww! Good luck for Dec!! I will prob see you there too!

[TTC5]

OK everyone, check this out: I used to be a size 6, went up to a 12 with the boy diet for about a year and 4 months, and now have been back to my old eating habits (AND a vegetarian for 4 days now, LOL) for only a month and am a size 8 now. LOVIN' IT!!!!!!! I am so excited about the vegetarian diet....our whole family is doing it.....I have this hope that it will turn our situation around and make my DH become a super sperm factory. I've been reading about how it can change so much in your body in "The China Study," which I highly recommend!

:bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::bluesperm::blues perm::bluesperm::bluesperm:

Oh I am jealous! I am size FH stands for Fking Huge!!!!!! :(

[LolaInLove]

Oh, well, it took me a few years to figure him out. But he gets up really early in the morning (he works at 7am) and while the rest of the house is asleep, he looks at naked ladies on the computer and has fun! I accidentally caught him a couple times, when I couldn't sleep, and got up a few minutes after him. :oops: Now that he knows I know, we talk about it freely. He would be mortified to know that I am telling you all this!!

Oh wow, really? You don't get upset about that?

[LolaInLove]

Oh I am jealous! I am size FH stands for Fking Huge!!!!!! :(

LOL! Someday after your baby boy is born, you can join me in weight loss land, K!

[LolaInLove]

Well last night the test was negative!!!! Who knows? Will recheck today. Def too early for hcg as implantation only starts at 5dpo at the earliest.

Interesting! Well, maybe wait to see if you are preggers and maybe test next month? It may be a good sign of a super strong or double ovulation!

[Hobbermittens]

Oh wow, really? You don't get upset about that?

Nah. I don't care about porn. As long as he isn't looking at anyone under age (he's not!!).

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber - sorry about af, I want to say that 2wks isn't going to kill your sway but if I got a girl after that I would so be blaming myself.
My dh does the same thing, if he can't sleep him and his iPhone visit the bathroom lol I found out a similar way, I woke up and he was in the bathroom, concerned he was sick I went to check on him oops lol I feel the same about porn, as long as it's not under age (not here either) or really creepy like animals I really don't care, especially at 4 or 5 am.

TTC5 - yeah I'm FH too even without the belly, I chose to ignore Lola's comments about her skinny ass lol
FX you're having crazy pre-preg stuff :)

[TTC5]

Interesting! Well, maybe wait to see if you are preggers and maybe test next month? It may be a good sign of a super strong or double ovulation!

As long as it isn't twin girls LOL

[love being a mummy]

Hey everyone, AF showed up yesterday afternoon, so I am on to round two. We won't attempt this cycle, because I screwed up the diet for the entire 2WW and DH wasn't good about taking his supps--I was completely sure I was pg! I felt pg and everything. Oh well. I am stuffing my face to make up for lost time!! Next attempt will be in December.
Good luck for next month


That's how I was with #3. I really held on to a shred of hope that my u/s was wrong and that she was secretly a boy. I hated telling people I was having a girl; I felt embarrassed, like I failed at making a "good" baby. Begonia, I know I probably don't seem like I should be giving advice on this, since I have a boy, but I have read a lot of your posts, and I COMPLETELY understand how you are feeling right now. A lot of what you say I could have written myself. I just wanted to tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I am FINALLY starting to really enjoy my DD2 now that she is 19 months. I feel awful saying this, but for most of her first year, I really didn't enjoy her at all. :( I hate GD! I feel so guilty now for wasting all of her baby time wishing she were someone else. :(
I hated telling people aswell, only cause of the comments I used to get.


Oh I am jealous! I am size FH stands for Fking Huge!!!!!! :(
Same size as me lol

[skrimpy]

Thanks, Skrimpy! I may not be the *best* one to live vicariously through, LOL, but we can both do that through the lovely preggos on this board! I really love that first year of babyhood, and I think it is so important for mommy and baby to really bond during that first year, so hopefully concentrating on that and the other kiddos will take your mind off it. How are your older kids doing with the baby? Are they helpful? My oldest is 9 right now too, younger is 6, and they are so eager for me to have a baby (which kinda makes it harder, too) so they can be little mamas.

My big kids are so great with Honor! I was actually surprised b/c when Galen was born they didn't show a lot of interest in him. Maybe b/c we'd just had so many big life changes... Anyways, they adore Honor - talking to her, changing her, holding her. They are also a really big help around the house :D

[skrimpy]

Sorry about AF Hobber!

TTC5 are you going to call your dr tomorrow? Maybe you did O twice?? You're too early for an OPK to indicate pregnancy right? I know some gals get a positive from them a couple weeks after O.

Bec sounds like you guys had a nice time :)

[Hobbermittens]

Hobber - sorry about af, I want to say that 2wks isn't going to kill your sway but if I got a girl after that I would so be blaming myself.
My dh does the same thing, if he can't sleep him and his iPhone visit the bathroom lol I found out a similar way, I woke up and he was in the bathroom, concerned he was sick I went to check on him oops lol I feel the same about porn, as long as it's not under age (not here either) or really creepy like animals I really don't care, especially at 4 or 5 am.


Oh, those horny DHs! I wonder what it is like to be a man?

Yeah, I agree about the diet thing--it MAY not make a difference, but I would seriously kick myself if I made a girl this time because I had slacked the last two weeks!! I guess I will see how I feel in a few weeks at O time... I might go through the motions in case we decide to DTD at the last minute or something. But I have had 3 separate predictions from psychics that I would have an August baby girl, so I really doubt I will try this cycle anyway! (my EDD would be Aug 12).

Oh, and all you ladies complaining about weight...I am fat as a house, so gross, seriously... thankful it is winter weather here now so I can hide under lots of layers!!!

Lola, I am totally jealous of your weight loss!!!

TTC5, keep us posted on what the doctor says if you go. I am curious about what's going on.

[TTC5]

Sorry about AF Hobber!

TTC5 are you going to call your dr tomorrow? Maybe you did O twice?? You're too early for an OPK to indicate pregnancy right? I know some gals get a positive from them a couple weeks after O.

Bec sounds like you guys had a nice time :)

Yes way too early. I am 5dpo today so the earliest it could implant would be from now.
I tried to get an app but because it isn't an emergency I can't get in until Monday :(

[TTC5]

I thought I got a - last night but my urine must have been too diluted before bed, today I am back to +'s still.

[begonia]

Hobber sorry to hear you got AF! And FWIW I totally appreciate your understanding. I am EXACTLY that way - I really hate having to say "it's a girl" when people ask. The fact that you (and Skrimpy) have boys doesn't in anyway exempt you (IMO at least) from having GD with your daughters. I think it will get easier for me for sure once she is here... when I think about holding her right after she's born I can't wait :bigsmile: But part of me is pretty sure this is going to persist in some form for a while after her birth; it didn't with DD2 bc I knew we'd have one more shot, but this is for sure my last baby I birth... we have talked a lot about adoption the past couple of weeks so IF we do a 4th that will be how he arrives.

Lola I owe you a PM :) I keep re-reading the last one you sent me so thank you. You're the best. Really. Glad the new veg lifestyle is suiting everyone well!

Jen just think though, one day you'll be back to your skinny self AND have a son to show for it :)

5, what on earth?!?! I mean I don't think you need to be worried but it definitely is quite odd. Did you get a chance to talk with anyone at the office who could even offer a potential explanation? FX Monday brings an answer.

[TTC5]

They won't give advice over the phone where we live :(

[begonia]

BOOOO! If my OB and his nurse didn't already know I was pg I'd call them and pretend it was my problem. Obviously at this point they'd just wonder WTH I was doing POAS anymore!

[TTC5]

LMAO!!!!


Ok so tonight is back to - LOL hardly a hint of a line!!!

[Plum3]

Bec, sounds perfect!!! Nice job! Vacation always ups your fertility, doesn't it? FX this does it for ya!

Thanks Lola!

Well done on the weight loss. Can't wait to get back to my pre diet bod.

[Plum3]

Kris - oh I hear ya darlin, it never occurred to me I'd have one girl let alone 3! I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world, you'll love it :) I've got a snuggler, they are the best!

B- Nothing to offer?! Love is enough :)

Bec - great timing, fx!!

Lola - FX for turning dh into a super sperm factory lol

Thanks :)

[Plum3]

Hobbers, so sorry about AF showing. Sucks :(

I noticed that you and TTC5 have been off the diet for the 2WW. I am still doing the diet and supps (all the ones I take apart from ural are fine safe all the time). I read somewhere that Atomic recommends staying on the diet especially during the 2WW as if you conceive a boy it helps it implant etc. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

[Plum3]

As long as it isn't twin girls LOL

DH and I always joke about having twin girls. Just imagine!

[TTC5]

That is probably right but I just cant not stand the diet :(

I am craving rice bubbles with sugar and have eaten soo many bowls of it LOL!

[TTC5]

DH and I always joke about having twin girls. Just imagine!

Yeah so do we haha or triplets lol

[Plum3]

I am so sick of the diet too. I just want to eat something without worrying if there is protein and carbs in it. DH is convinced he did a good enough job first time round and is sure we are pregnant. Me, not so convinced.

[TTC5]

LOL so is my DH, think they like to think of themselves as some kind of a "stud" LOL

I'm not getting my hopes up! Have had some on and off all day twinges but trying sooo hard not to read too much in to it lol (ok so yes, I have been googling lol).

[Plum3]

Haha, yep DH thinks his aim was spot on. Men!

I am so tempted to look at my charts when I conceived with my girls and see what symptoms I had then.

[Flava]

Hobbers, so sorry about AF showing. Sucks :(

I noticed that you and TTC5 have been off the diet for the 2WW. I am still doing the diet and supps (all the ones I take apart from ural are fine safe all the time). I read somewhere that Atomic recommends staying on the diet especially during the 2WW as if you conceive a boy it helps it implant etc. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

That is right is best to stay on the diet till bfp and even longer if we can to help the baby. I only stoped last month because I thought we are done ttc. But it was for like a week only I had af early. For sure I will stay on it. (hate it too lol)

[Flava]

LOL so is my DH, think they like to think of themselves as some kind of a "stud" LOL

I'm not getting my hopes up! Have had some on and off all day twinges but trying sooo hard not to read too much in to it lol (ok so yes, I have been googling lol).

Same with my DH he always says Im pregnant first try. But I get pregnant easy ...so much from 80% bad eggs lol

[Hobbermittens]

Hobbers, so sorry about AF showing. Sucks :(

I noticed that you and TTC5 have been off the diet for the 2WW. I am still doing the diet and supps (all the ones I take apart from ural are fine safe all the time). I read somewhere that Atomic recommends staying on the diet especially during the 2WW as if you conceive a boy it helps it implant etc. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

Yeah, I really screwed up. I just felt pg right after I O'ed, so I did keep up the diet for a couple days, but then it was Halloween, and I ate candy and all kinds of other crap... I just thought, 'why do the diet still? I know I am pg', and I didn't keep DH on his supps, and now I regret it! I hope I didn't keep the baby from implanting by being so slack. My only thought is, I never did this diet before and had 3 perfect pregnancies, so obviously it is not a must for me. And I definitely kept up my calorie intake, but a lot of that was sugary food, so I bet my blood sugar was off.... oh well. I will be better next time!!

[Flava]

hobber don't worry! And all of us like this when you had a try we think we are pregnant for sure or we think no way we got pregnant. I also eat some candy after halloween so what? I do not think a little sweet kill our sway.
Im scared of december lol because almost the only time i bake is around christmas and there is pies and gingerbread , cookies ,and other pastries I make and I want to eat it lol So I need a bfp now !

[3Pink1Blue]

Hobber- yeah I didn't really want to hope it didn't matter when it came to my sway. I didn't wait till everything was perfect ie moon, pH etc just the stuff I could control. Fwiw dd3 was due 8/11 and she's e sweetest little bunny in my herd :)

B- I'm sure your gd will linger for a bit after delivery, mine did w/dd3, but having a sweet little critter to cuddle really does help.
Oh believe me I can't wait for my old ass to be back and my stamina, I've already got next summers race schedule all figured out lol.

Ttc5- holy crap girl, wth? Fx everything straightens out soon.

Bec- I do believe she did say that and fwiw I never layed of the diet, I skipped bread in the 2ww but that was it. Make the diet simpler, I ate meat with veg or meat with fruit. The more stressful you make it the harder it'll be to stay with it.

It's official ladies, third trimester for me!!

[LolaInLove]

Nah. I don't care about porn. As long as he isn't looking at anyone under age (he's not!!).

LOL, I hear ya! I had a serious boyfriend back in the day that was way too into it and I had a bad experience with all of that, let's just say.

[LolaInLove]

TTC5 - yeah I'm FH too even without the belly, I chose to ignore Lola's comments about her skinny ass lol


It ain't skinny yet! LOL, but working on it. It sometimes freaks me out to think of how long I did that diet and if I were still doing it, what I may look like!!!! I honestly feel like my body just went through a pregnancy and is now losing it afterwards....except no baby, grrrrrr!

[LolaInLove]

My big kids are so great with Honor! I was actually surprised b/c when Galen was born they didn't show a lot of interest in him. Maybe b/c we'd just had so many big life changes... Anyways, they adore Honor - talking to her, changing her, holding her. They are also a really big help around the house :D

That is great! I love it! Maybe it's because they are older, too. I am sure you are loving the help, though. I love reading your blog, sounds like you have an awesome brood.

[Hobbermittens]

3P1B! 3rd trimester already? Wow, baby Charlie will be here so soon!

TTC5, what did the dr. say?

Flava, I worry about all that xmas baking too, but oh well... my DS was conceived in Dec., so I think it is a good month for me. I hope anyway!!

Lola, I think I am in the minority far as the porn is concerned. Most women don't seem to want their DH to look at it. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it. :(

[LolaInLove]

Oh, those horny DHs! I wonder what it is like to be a man?

Yeah, I agree about the diet thing--it MAY not make a difference, but I would seriously kick myself if I made a girl this time because I had slacked the last two weeks!! I guess I will see how I feel in a few weeks at O time... I might go through the motions in case we decide to DTD at the last minute or something. But I have had 3 separate predictions from psychics that I would have an August baby girl, so I really doubt I will try this cycle anyway! (my EDD would be Aug 12).

Oh, and all you ladies complaining about weight...I am fat as a house, so gross, seriously... thankful it is winter weather here now so I can hide under lots of layers!!!

Lola, I am totally jealous of your weight loss!!!

TTC5, keep us posted on what the doctor says if you go. I am curious about what's going on.

See, I am the man in our relationship, LOL....even though I don't watch porn, I am the horny one. This is why I think my DH has low T. But maybe he does sneak it in. The ex with the porn addiction said it's just a visual thing, all guys do it, blah blah.....BUT he always begged me to dye my hair blond and grow it really long and go to a tanning bed and wear this and that in the sack, it got weird. It was like the only thing that turned him on at one point so he could never just be with me, or any girl afterwards, apparently, like a normal person. But once, just to see what he'd do, I subscribed to a, um, ladies' site and left it up online and he FREAKED out and said how could I look at other naked guys. It was awesome. What a douche. That is why I am leery of guys and porn, I guess, but I do know that many use it wisely, LOL.

And seriously, please don't be jealous of me. I still look like a cow, but losing this weight is the only thing I can do now. If I could get pg easily, I would be on the diet still. Or hell, probably have a baby by now.

Don't worry about the psychics, but I hear you about wanting to skip a cycle with the diet. I don't think a little laxness in the 2ww would kill your sway, but I agree with 3p1b, you might as well have a good confident month.

[LolaInLove]

I thought I got a - last night but my urine must have been too diluted before bed, today I am back to +'s still.

WOW! That's crazy....hmmm, well, I guess go in on monday?

[LolaInLove]

Hobbers, so sorry about AF showing. Sucks :(

I noticed that you and TTC5 have been off the diet for the 2WW. I am still doing the diet and supps (all the ones I take apart from ural are fine safe all the time). I read somewhere that Atomic recommends staying on the diet especially during the 2WW as if you conceive a boy it helps it implant etc. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though.

No, you are right! It is the best practice.....I think many of us have been doing the diet so long that we get slack.

[LolaInLove]

Begonia, you take all the time in the world, lady. I am glad to see you still around. We can never quit GD, it is funny.

YAY for 3rd tri, 3p1b!!! May it be a non-painful and joyous one for you!

So, last night, my youngest says, "Mommy, when are you going to have a baby? I thought you wanted to have one? How many miscarriages did you have? Was it 2? Didn't you have one before G was born (big sis)? I just want you to have one soon." Just ALL sorts of questions. I guess it is good and bad to let your kids in on this stuff. I'd just hate for her to repeat it to anyone. I am usually doing ok these days, especially with feeling better about my figure, but it still hits me hard. I've done my homework on IVF now and am putting it on the backburner for a while. I'd hate to go to ridiculous lengths and expense to have a baby when we could have had a free one if we would have just waited a bit longer.

Meh. At least I get to hear Nutcracker music all day, which is making me happy. Plus, I am finding a new outlet for my ridiculous need to gather information incessantly, which is vegetarianism. And buying Christmas presents early, which makes me feel rather on top of things.

[LolaInLove]

Lola, I think I am in the minority far as the porn is concerned. Most women don't seem to want their DH to look at it. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it. :(

You might be....I only have a few friends that don't care either, and I have many who think it is a visual form of cheating, in a way. I think it is rather liberated of you, Hobbs! And ya know, you gotta do some things, make some concessions, in marriage sometimes. If you've got a horndog for a husband, better he's in the bathroom with porn than knocking on your door 3x a day or worse, at a hotel with a hooker or something!!!

[DoulaMama]

3P1B! 3rd trimester already? Wow, baby Charlie will be here so soon!

TTC5, what did the dr. say?

Flava, I worry about all that xmas baking too, but oh well... my DS was conceived in Dec., so I think it is a good month for me. I hope anyway!!

Lola, I think I am in the minority far as the porn is concerned. Most women don't seem to want their DH to look at it. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it. :(

Crashing... :)
Just wanted to say that we are pretty open with all that kind of stuff as well. I used to work as an assistant manager in an adult store(did all the toy orders, prescreened movies etc, was on floor helping people find the right toys etc...boy have I got some good stories! LOL)and I'm pretty laid back when it comes to porn. My hubby and I have no issues with each other looking at it(we're not sex addicts or anything;))and I know that in our relationship it causes zero problems. I do know of many couples where it hurt the relationship though:( Being open is so open important when it comes to that kind of thing.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - ok maybe not skinny but at least on the way down. I too am hoping for a pretty good third trimester :)
It's rough when kids ask those kinds of questions especially since the truth is so unsatisfying for them. Not long after we told the kids dd2 asked if we were going to lose this baby too. It ripped out my heart to have to tell her I honestly didn't know but was doing everything I could to keep it safe. These are the days I wish we weren't so honest with them.

Hobber & doula - I know I'm in the minority amongst my real life friends. My sil and bil's gf both freak if they even suspect their men have had a peek. I think it's got a lot to do with his honesty, usage and time spent together lol We've got 17 years, he doesn't lie about it and knows I don't care if he looks at it as long as he's not off with it instead of being with me.

[TTC5]

Haha, yep DH thinks his aim was spot on. Men!

I am so tempted to look at my charts when I conceived with my girls and see what symptoms I had then.

Show me!!!!!

[TTC5]

hobber don't worry! And all of us like this when you had a try we think we are pregnant for sure or we think no way we got pregnant. I also eat some candy after halloween so what? I do not think a little sweet kill our sway.
Im scared of december lol because almost the only time i bake is around christmas and there is pies and gingerbread , cookies ,and other pastries I make and I want to eat it lol So I need a bfp now !

EAT them! LOL I would anyway :P
I am still eating ALOT just letting myself have what I want which has been rice bubbles haha

[TTC5]

3P1B! 3rd trimester already? Wow, baby Charlie will be here so soon!

TTC5, what did the dr. say?

Flava, I worry about all that xmas baking too, but oh well... my DS was conceived in Dec., so I think it is a good month for me. I hope anyway!!

Lola, I think I am in the minority far as the porn is concerned. Most women don't seem to want their DH to look at it. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with it. :(

My app is Monday they were all booked out till then :(

[TTC5]

Begonia, you take all the time in the world, lady. I am glad to see you still around. We can never quit GD, it is funny.

YAY for 3rd tri, 3p1b!!! May it be a non-painful and joyous one for you!

So, last night, my youngest says, "Mommy, when are you going to have a baby? I thought you wanted to have one? How many miscarriages did you have? Was it 2? Didn't you have one before G was born (big sis)? I just want you to have one soon." Just ALL sorts of questions. I guess it is good and bad to let your kids in on this stuff. I'd just hate for her to repeat it to anyone. I am usually doing ok these days, especially with feeling better about my figure, but it still hits me hard. I've done my homework on IVF now and am putting it on the backburner for a while. I'd hate to go to ridiculous lengths and expense to have a baby when we could have had a free one if we would have just waited a bit longer.

Meh. At least I get to hear Nutcracker music all day, which is making me happy. Plus, I am finding a new outlet for my ridiculous need to gather information incessantly, which is vegetarianism. And buying Christmas presents early, which makes me feel rather on top of things.

Oh the little precious hey!!!! I have told my girls well bigger two anyway that I have lost babies in the past. DD2 always asks about her twin. I didn't tell you ladies that I saw John Edward last month hey? He picked up that we want more kids but stopped there (I think cos it was a live show and my Mum was next to me, so prob knew to protect my privacy lol) but he said there was a twin around me ..... made DH and I cry!

[TTC5]

See, I am the man in our relationship, LOL....even though I don't watch porn, I am the horny one. This is why I think my DH has low T. But maybe he does sneak it in. The ex with the porn addiction said it's just a visual thing, all guys do it, blah blah.....BUT he always begged me to dye my hair blond and grow it really long and go to a tanning bed and wear this and that in the sack, it got weird. It was like the only thing that turned him on at one point so he could never just be with me, or any girl afterwards, apparently, like a normal person. But once, just to see what he'd do, I subscribed to a, um, ladies' site and left it up online and he FREAKED out and said how could I look at other naked guys. It was awesome. What a douche. That is why I am leery of guys and porn, I guess, but I do know that many use it wisely, LOL.

And seriously, please don't be jealous of me. I still look like a cow, but losing this weight is the only thing I can do now. If I could get pg easily, I would be on the diet still. Or hell, probably have a baby by now.

Don't worry about the psychics, but I hear you about wanting to skip a cycle with the diet. I don't think a little laxness in the 2ww would kill your sway, but I agree with 3p1b, you might as well have a good confident month.

Oh what a sleeze! And LOL at your payback!!!

Yep I go to dr Monday.

[WashingtonPromise]

Lola: My older children know about our losses, but normally don't bring them up. Maybe your DD notices your weight change and thinks your not TTCing anymore. I have a friend who's DH has hardly any sperm and they did IVF and only got 20 sperm and only 10 were usable....they got PG their first try. I am so happy for them. She did say the IVF is like buying a car, but so much more worth it. I do understand about debt, though....we try avoid it at all cost, too. You are sooo lucky to enjoy the Nutcracker all the time!!!

3p1b: I know, only one of my children know we are expecting....they would all be asking if the baby would be a "take home" one if I told them.

Well, the sinus yuck is gone now, but now I am coughing and it is all in my chest. Yuck....I just want to feel normal!!!

[Kris217]

Hobber- yeah I didn't really want to hope it didn't matter when it came to my sway. I didn't wait till everything was perfect ie moon, pH etc just the stuff I could control. Fwiw dd3 was due 8/11 and she's e sweetest little bunny in my herd :)

B- I'm sure your gd will linger for a bit after delivery, mine did w/dd3, but having a sweet little critter to cuddle really does help.
Oh believe me I can't wait for my old ass to be back and my stamina, I've already got next summers race schedule all figured out lol.

Ttc5- holy crap girl, wth? Fx everything straightens out soon.

Bec- I do believe she did say that and fwiw I never layed of the diet, I skipped bread in the 2ww but that was it. Make the diet simpler, I ate meat with veg or meat with fruit. The more stressful you make it the harder it'll be to stay with it.

It's official ladies, third trimester for me!!

Woohoo, 3rd trimester! Bub will be here in no time :)

[TTC5]

I had the most funniest and strangest dream ever last night (think it is from chatting to all you ladies too much )

Dreamt that I moved to America and went to a beach. It was so strange, it was HUGE with lots of clear, crashing, frothy white waves and water and was like a beach/pool in one! Anyway so there were these huge gorillas EVERYWHERE like the ones from the Cadbury add if anyone has seen that add? (I will try and find it on You Tube lol) they were allll over the beach hahahaha the weather so was lovely and sunny and hot and I just loved it, LOL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnzFRV1LwIo << that is the add!

[CapricornAquarius]

Ive only had weird dreams since being pregnant especially in the first 3 weeks.
Hope you get a bfp.

[love being a mummy]

After doing some reading last night, I am now wondering.
You know how HE = times are good = boys.
LE = times are not so good = girls.

Just wondering how does that work ? so we trick our bodies into believing times are good but how does that allow us to conceive a boy?

[TTC5]

I can count my dollars I am not UTD I just can't believe I would be so lucky first go... plus I have woken today with a damn pimple and yesterday and a little today having some funny cramping which I probably get every month but just never look out for them. Feels like I am being poked from inside with a blunt object on the RHS sort of near the ovary? Probably an early AF for me :(

[TTC5]

LOL maybe I am need to let the sex goddess within, OUT lol cos this is what dreaming of Gorillas is meant to mean hahahahaah

the gorilla symbolizes your primitive impulses, wild nature and repressed sexual energy.

[TTC5]

After doing some reading last night, I am now wondering.
You know how HE = times are good = boys.
LE = times are not so good = girls.

Just wondering how does that work ? so we trick our bodies into believing times are good but how does that allow us to conceive a boy?

I think it means that girls are more hardier than boys, and so if our bodies are less nourished we tend to favour more girls? Doesn't count for everyone though because I know lots of boys born to mothers who are on drugs, alcohol, little nutrition, illness..

[CapricornAquarius]

Lbam you've confused me what does HE & LE stand for?

Ttc5 you never know i was getting those crampy feelings & a pimple i was sooo expecting my period to come so i was very i mean very surprised i actually conceived. Fx for you.

[TTC5]

Oh right, did it feel like how I explained it? I will be honest and have thought mmm ok wonder if it is something burrowing away in there but it is not central and is closer to the RHS (same side I ovulated from) it comes for a few seconds and stops and starts again kind of all over the shop throughout the day, random. Not aching as such.

Did it start around 5/6dpo?

[TTC5]

Oh and HE stand for High Everything and LE stands for LOW Everything (food wise).

[CapricornAquarius]

Oh thanks ttc5

Well i dont believe that either cause my sister has two boys & both her & her partner are big marajuana (not sure if i spelt it right) smokers.

[CapricornAquarius]

Oh right, did it feel like how I explained it? I will be honest and have thought mmm ok wonder if it is something burrowing away in there but it is not central and is closer to the RHS (same side I ovulated from) it comes for a few seconds and stops and starts again kind of all over the shop throughout the day, random. Not aching as such.

Did it start around 5/6dpo?
Honestly Ttc5 i couldnt tell you exactly cause i really wasnt looking out for prego signs i just remember feeling them earlier then normal, just thought maybe my periods are coming earlier, it all makes plenty of sense now.

[love being a mummy]

I think it means that girls are more hardier than boys, and so if our bodies are less nourished we tend to favour more girls?

Thats what I was thinking but I just can't think why it would work, our egg can't determine which sperm fertilises it. Or does it go more on the male, does he produce more sperm when times are good?
Sorry I guess I am just questioning everything at the moment.
How / why certain things work and don't work.

With every idea we all know someone who done that but has opposite gender.

Swaying has to work to some degree, but maybe it's just pure coincidence that people have had 2,3,4 of the same gender and then they "sway" and get the gender they want. But we also have people who do sway and still get the gender they have been having so maybe it all just pure luck and coincidence and chance.
Maybe it is a 50/50 chance each time no matter what you do?

There has to be a reason though why some people only have the same gender and some have GBGBGB or is purely just 50/50 chance and luck.

[Hobbermittens]

I think it is rather liberated of you, Hobbs! And ya know, you gotta do some things, make some concessions, in marriage sometimes. If you've got a horndog for a husband, better he's in the bathroom with porn than knocking on your door 3x a day or worse, at a hotel with a hooker or something!!!

Amen, sister!

I don't consider it cheating at all. Men are visual creatures... I know he's going to look, so why not have it in a controlled environment?

Your story about your ex is pretty extreme, I think. I would definitely not like it if DH started doing those things! And good for you for turning the tables on him. I haven't ever looked at a guy site, but I doubt DH would care if I did. I went to see the Chipendales (sp?) dancers once, and he didn't care at all.

[Plum3]

Yeah, I really screwed up. I just felt pg right after I O'ed, so I did keep up the diet for a couple days, but then it was Halloween, and I ate candy and all kinds of other crap... I just thought, 'why do the diet still? I know I am pg', and I didn't keep DH on his supps, and now I regret it! I hope I didn't keep the baby from implanting by being so slack. My only thought is, I never did this diet before and had 3 perfect pregnancies, so obviously it is not a must for me. And I definitely kept up my calorie intake, but a lot of that was sugary food, so I bet my blood sugar was off.... oh well. I will be better next time!!

It's so hard though when you really do feel pregnant. Onto December!

[Plum3]

I don't have much time so will catch up later but I really need some advice!

My post O temps haven't been as high as they usually are and yesterday I had cramps all day. This morning I noticed alot of watery CM so decided to do a OPK just for the fun of it (I know, should have just ignored the watery CM) and it came up positive (8am). But even darker than the positive I got a few days ago. So now I am wondering did I actually O at all the other day or is this O coming up now? I just did another OPK (11am) and it is negative and fading out. Kicking myself that I didn't do an OPK yesterday when I had the cramps. So do you think if we DTD again tonight I am in girl territory? I don't want to miss an attempt but I don't want to risk girl territory either.

[Hobbermittens]

Crashing... :)
Just wanted to say that we are pretty open with all that kind of stuff as well. I used to work as an assistant manager in an adult store(did all the toy orders, prescreened movies etc, was on floor helping people find the right toys etc...boy have I got some good stories! LOL)and I'm pretty laid back when it comes to porn. My hubby and I have no issues with each other looking at it(we're not sex addicts or anything;))and I know that in our relationship it causes zero problems. I do know of many couples where it hurt the relationship though:( Being open is so open important when it comes to that kind of thing.

OOOhh, I would love to hear some of your stories!!

[Kris217]

LOL maybe I am need to let the sex goddess within, OUT lol cos this is what dreaming of Gorillas is meant to mean hahahahaah

the gorilla symbolizes your primitive impulses, wild nature and repressed sexual energy.

wohoo you go girl haha weird dream that's for sure!

[TTC5]

I don't have much time so will catch up later but I really need some advice!

My post O temps haven't been as high as they usually are and yesterday I had cramps all day. This morning I noticed alot of watery CM so decided to do a OPK just for the fun of it (I know, should have just ignored the watery CM) and it came up positive (8am). But even darker than the positive I got a few days ago. So now I am wondering did I actually O at all the other day or is this O coming up now? I just did another OPK (11am) and it is negative and fading out. Kicking myself that I didn't do an OPK yesterday when I had the cramps. So do you think if we DTD again tonight I am in girl territory? I don't want to miss an attempt but I don't want to risk girl territory either.

I would go again!!! We did the same lol as I too have been having +OPK's it is doing my head in lol!

[Plum3]

Flava, I know what you mean about Christmas coming up. It is going to be so hard to resist eating all that yummy food. We do what we have to do though I guess!

3P1B, I think my diet is pretty simple. I just hate having to eat protein with every meal/snack. I can't wait to feel hungry again. I'm always full and just eating for the sake of it. Woo hoo for third trimester, that has gone so fast!

Hobbers, I don't mind my DH looking at porn either. We look at it together though mostly. One thing I don't like is strippers. He only ever goes to them on bucks nights but I hate the thought of them. I trust him completely I just don't trust them.

Lola, your ex sounds like a freak. Lucky he is an ex. At least you know IVF is there if/when you need it. How long do you think you will try naturally for?

DM, ita with you. It is so important to be open about that kind of stuff.

TTC5, I would show you my previous charts but I don't think they will come up with symptoms etc. on there as I'm not a paid member of FF. Can still show you if you like? LOL at your gorilla dream.

WP, sorry that you are still feeling yuck.

Well I really don't know what's up with my OPKs. I have an appointment next Wednesday with my specialist anyway so I will ask him then.

[3Pink1Blue]

I'll catch up in the rest later but wanted to chime in on this.

Lbam- here's the gist of it. The male fetus requires more calories then the female fetus. If your body thinks times are good the fertilized male egg has a better chance to burrow in and grow, if your body thinks that the fetus has little chance of survival it can end things before it begins. Your body doesn't want to produce a fetus that it can't support and has little chance of survival after birth.
We all know of exceptions to this theory but that doesn't make it any less valid.

[love being a mummy]

I'll catch up in the rest later but wanted to chime in on this.

Lbam- here's the gist of it. The male fetus requires more calories then the female fetus. If your body thinks times are good the fertilized male egg has a better chance to burrow in and grow, if your body thinks that the fetus has little chance of survival it can end things before it begins. Your body doesn't want to produce a fetus that it can't support and has little chance of survival after birth.
We all know of exceptions to this theory but that doesn't make it any less valid.

So the diet doesn't give you extra chances of getting a male sperm to fertilise the egg, it just helps if by chance a male sperm does get to the egg.

[TTC5]

I think it helps both? It changes the acid/alkaline environment of our CM? And the minerals aswell that the boy sperm thrive in?

[love being a mummy]

I think it helps both? It changes the acid/alkaline environment of our CM? And the minerals aswell that the boy sperm thrive in?

Yeah thats what I've been thinking, the acid/alkaline thing, but I seen someone mention that PH doesn't really matter and it's all about the diet so was just curious as to how it works.
I think DH would have to be on the same diet ?? JMO but wouldn't that make the boy sperm know that times are good and that gives them a push to get there first?

[TTC5]

I get what your saying :)
Who really knows hey! But I'm going with it LOL

[Flava]

Yeah thats what I've been thinking, the acid/alkaline thing, but I seen someone mention that PH doesn't really matter and it's all about the diet so was just curious as to how it works.
I think DH would have to be on the same diet ?? JMO but wouldn't that make the boy sperm know that times are good and that gives them a push to get their first?
You should ask atomic all this. Im also interested what she says.

[Flava]

temps is under the 60 today and we are freezing here in FL! Im so happy LOL

[3Pink1Blue]

TTC5- Thats neat you got to meet John Edwards and he picked up on that, to bad he couldn't/wouldn't tell you more.

WP - my kids never knew about m/c till last Oct, I hated having to tell them that things don't always work out.
Sorry your yuck had sunk into your chest, coughs seem to linger much longer then any stuffed head.

LBAM- swaying isn't a guarantee because you can't be sure which sperm hits the egg but you can make the environment and the sperm at optimal as possible. You can be well nourished but if your calorie intake isn't what your body deems a boy safe environment then you may have a girl, you can have poor sperm and a shitty diet but if your calorie intake is super high your body can decide it's a boy rich place. There isn't a perfect combo that works for everyone and like I said there is always someone who doesn't fit the mold. I'm one of those that got a boy with a 5.5ish pH so don't think it was a huge factor for me but your diet changes your cm, healthier more nutrient rich cm can give those little blue swimmers an advantage. Your DH should be on the diet as well to improve his sperm so when those swimmers hit the boy friendly cm they have a better chance. Basically the diet makes everything optimal and ready but again there is no guarantee.

Flava - I was lovin' our cooler weather for a while too, now I'm freezing my buns off lol

Bec - if eating protein is hard for you then I would say it's a very important factor for you. I really believe the things that are the hardest to change are the ones that will change out bodies the most.
I'm with you on the stripper thing, mental contact is one thing but half naked girl wanting his money is something totally different. I too completely trust my dh but don't trust a woman willing to rub and kiss a married man. I know not all strippers are sleazy but in general I'd rather they stay away :)

[Flava]

I don't really like to be cold but it's always hot here and cool suppose to be better for ttc blue , so im happy for it now.

[LolaInLove]

Lola - ok maybe not skinny but at least on the way down. I too am hoping for a pretty good third trimester :)
It's rough when kids ask those kinds of questions especially since the truth is so unsatisfying for them. Not long after we told the kids dd2 asked if we were going to lose this baby too. It ripped out my heart to have to tell her I honestly didn't know but was doing everything I could to keep it safe. These are the days I wish we weren't so honest with them.

Hobber & doula - I know I'm in the minority amongst my real life friends. My sil and bil's gf both freak if they even suspect their men have had a peek. I think it's got a lot to do with his honesty, usage and time spent together lol We've got 17 years, he doesn't lie about it and knows I don't care if he looks at it as long as he's not off with it instead of being with me.

Exactly....but I am glad I have an open enough relationship with them that they feel comfortable talking to me about that stuff. Their innocence and candor is just so touching, even if they ask the exact question that you ask yourself fifty times a day, kwim? How exciting that your girls get to experience all of this with you, and the arrival of a little brother, though!

And you are also right about the honesty factor.....I think that is where the comfort level with porn comes in. And also the part about still being normal about sex with you, the real woman! To be honest, I haven't even gotten that far with my new DH, even though we've been together for 3 years. Since he was a dancer, I thought he was probably a huge ladies' man (read: womanizer) when we first met, but he isn't, just a normal sweet guy. He is more reserved than most I've been with, though. I just don't know if he does masturbate much, and quite frankly, I wouldn't care, except for the low sex drive thing and the low sperm count thing. I think I am going through the newlywed phase still, LOL!

[LolaInLove]

I can count my dollars I am not UTD I just can't believe I would be so lucky first go... plus I have woken today with a damn pimple and yesterday and a little today having some funny cramping which I probably get every month but just never look out for them. Feels like I am being poked from inside with a blunt object on the RHS sort of near the ovary? Probably an early AF for me :(

OR IMPLANTATION! 5, you get pg easy, I would not doubt you get a bfp this time!!!

[3Pink1Blue]

Oh Lola you're definitely still a newlywed, dh and I are old folks lol

[LolaInLove]

Thats what I was thinking but I just can't think why it would work, our egg can't determine which sperm fertilises it. Or does it go more on the male, does he produce more sperm when times are good?
Sorry I guess I am just questioning everything at the moment.
How / why certain things work and don't work.

With every idea we all know someone who done that but has opposite gender.

Swaying has to work to some degree, but maybe it's just pure coincidence that people have had 2,3,4 of the same gender and then they "sway" and get the gender they want. But we also have people who do sway and still get the gender they have been having so maybe it all just pure luck and coincidence and chance.
Maybe it is a 50/50 chance each time no matter what you do?

There has to be a reason though why some people only have the same gender and some have GBGBGB or is purely just 50/50 chance and luck.

LBAM, you sound like me circa a year ago. I was all philosophical and questioning of swaying. I am a very scientific person, so things really need to have a good correlation to make me believe in it.

This is what I have concluded (and 3 and I are currently philosophizing about this on another thread which you may have read): swaying is like rolling a big huge dice. Say your personal dice has not 6 sides, but 1000. Many sides are pink, and many are blue. When you conceive, you are essentially rolling the dice in regards to gender. When you sway, you just turn more of your pink sides to blue ones, although there will still be many pink sides. You can't turn them all blue. And there is really no tellin' how much you can convert to blue through swaying, although many studies cited on this site show that diet really seems to make a difference. You are simply giving yourself a higher chance of your desired gender, but NOT a guarantee.

Some women can sway their butts off and do everything 150% and still end up with an opposite, and then some barely sway and get what they wanted. So, you really have to just decide what you think might help you and do your best, but really, it is important to go into it knowing, and really believing, that you could get either gender, and that nothing you did or could have done would have made a difference. This is a guilt-free swaying site.

I hope that helps answer your question....and at least make you feel better about it all. Personally, I say why not sway. It does up your odds, I firmly believe that. As long as your heart and mind are on the same page about it not being a formula for your desired gender, it is all good.

[LolaInLove]

Amen, sister!

I don't consider it cheating at all. Men are visual creatures... I know he's going to look, so why not have it in a controlled environment?

Your story about your ex is pretty extreme, I think. I would definitely not like it if DH started doing those things! And good for you for turning the tables on him. I haven't ever looked at a guy site, but I doubt DH would care if I did. I went to see the Chipendales (sp?) dancers once, and he didn't care at all.

It is kinda extreme, and he's not the only one.....I had a guy friend from childhood who got divorced after 10 years because all that turned him on was Asian lesbians. Turns out he's marrying an Asian girl tomorrow actually, but I digress......it got to be such an obsession that he could not get it up with his wife anymore, and he was online several times a day.

I also think it depends a lot on how secure you are personally with your marriage and yourself, ya know? I say that because I went through a bad insecure period with this weight gain this past year. Of course, knowing my DH is around blithe little ballerinas all day long and his sex drive was dropping like the temperature and I was getting fatter by the minute definitely messed with my mind. However, normal me would not really care about the porn either as long as it wasn't turning into a fetish that was bad for the marriage.

[LolaInLove]

I don't have much time so will catch up later but I really need some advice!

My post O temps haven't been as high as they usually are and yesterday I had cramps all day. This morning I noticed alot of watery CM so decided to do a OPK just for the fun of it (I know, should have just ignored the watery CM) and it came up positive (8am). But even darker than the positive I got a few days ago. So now I am wondering did I actually O at all the other day or is this O coming up now? I just did another OPK (11am) and it is negative and fading out. Kicking myself that I didn't do an OPK yesterday when I had the cramps. So do you think if we DTD again tonight I am in girl territory? I don't want to miss an attempt but I don't want to risk girl territory either.

Bec, I'd go for it again. I don't believe timing matters though.

Hey 3, refresh my memory, when did you dtd for Charlie? (I love saying that!)

[LolaInLove]

OOOhh, I would love to hear some of your stories!!

Yea, me too, LOL! Maybe we should get NBP to start a naughty thread on the private board?

[LolaInLove]

WP, sorry you are having the chest stuff now! I've had it for 3 weeks now, a low grade bronchitis I think. Only thing that helps is Mucinex (which I don't mind taking now, LOL) and steam! I had to get a vaporizer/humidifier for our room and the girl's room...the heat dries us up so much. I hope you feel better soon, mama!

5, what a crazy dream! Is it cold where you are in Aus? Maybe it's a sign you should come visit the States!

Bec, how is your opk now? Strange month with opks, eh? I hope you guys decided to go again. I think we will try naturally for a year until we look any further into IVF. It would be SO much better for us to have it happen naturally, just financially. I know it would be worth it, but it would be a bite for a long time to make that payment plus figure out how to pay for one of us to stay home with baby for a bit. And I would not be down with strippers, either, for exactly the same reason....not trusting them. And our DH's don't need some real live lady shaking her boobs in his face, they have us for that. The internet is a different story.

[DoulaMama]

Yea, me too, LOL! Maybe we should get NBP to start a naughty thread on the private board?

Omg! That would be hilarious! Yeah...these stories are for people that can handle some pretty weird things!!! Let's just say- I used to sell "make your own dildo kits"(molded from your own penis) and a 70yo man came in asking exactly how to do it! Trying not to laugh was one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do! The other stories are wayyyy raunchier....rated R:) LOL! Oh...I had a guy come in and grab "the fist". It's a 15" long dildo in the shape of a fist and forearm!! Along with that he plunked a BUCKET of lube down down beside it on the front desk!!! I just rang it all up, very professional and all, and asked him if he wanted a bag;) LOL! He was a little red in the face when he said, "yes".Hahahahahahaha! Omg... The things I've seen!!!

[DoulaMama]

Plus, when you work in one of those places, many people assume you're in the movies that are on the shelves... Nice. I don't know how many times I was asked what I did "outside" of work. Yech!!! Um, I go to school, thanks. This is solely to make money and to laugh at all the weirdos we have in our town.... ;)

[LolaInLove]

Haha, DM, that is so funny! I remember going to a sex store for the first time and having my jaw drop at all the interesting toys and videos! I swear, some of the stuff people are into......I just felt prude in there and I ain't that prude in real life! I remember IG used to have a private forum about sex and marriage stuff, we should have one here too, I bet it would be helpful to a lot of gals.

[TTC5]

OR IMPLANTATION! 5, you get pg easy, I would not doubt you get a bfp this time!!!

I hope so!! But don't see an implatation dip on my chart?...

[LolaInLove]

I hope so!! But don't see an implatation dip on my chart?...

But not everyone gets a dip!

[TTC5]

WP, sorry you are having the chest stuff now! I've had it for 3 weeks now, a low grade bronchitis I think. Only thing that helps is Mucinex (which I don't mind taking now, LOL) and steam! I had to get a vaporizer/humidifier for our room and the girl's room...the heat dries us up so much. I hope you feel better soon, mama!

5, what a crazy dream! Is it cold where you are in Aus? Maybe it's a sign you should come visit the States!

Bec, how is your opk now? Strange month with opks, eh? I hope you guys decided to go again. I think we will try naturally for a year until we look any further into IVF. It would be SO much better for us to have it happen naturally, just financially. I know it would be worth it, but it would be a bite for a long time to make that payment plus figure out how to pay for one of us to stay home with baby for a bit. And I would not be down with strippers, either, for exactly the same reason....not trusting them. And our DH's don't need some real live lady shaking her boobs in his face, they have us for that. The internet is a different story.

Oh well I live in the southern most state so it is the cooler one without a doubt but we are starting to come in to warmer weather now :)

[TTC5]

But not everyone gets a dip!

Yeah true! I'm just trying not to get my hopes up ;)

[LolaInLove]

Oh well I live in the southern most state so it is the cooler one without a doubt but we are starting to come in to warmer weather now :)

Oh yea, I always forget that you all are opposite us!

[TTC5]

Yep we are as south as you can get hehe!

[3Pink1Blue]

Bec, I'd go for it again. I don't believe timing matters though.

Hey 3, refresh my memory, when did you dtd for Charlie? (I love saying that!)

I got lucky, I o'd late so when we hit 4 day abstinance we dtd, 2 days later I got the +opk and based on my u/s I conceived the following day. I O overnight so long story short we got o-2 and o.
I love hearing Charlie but it still just feels like people are just playing along. I've spent to long talking "if" to really believe lol

[TTC5]

Jen have you been boy shopping yet ;)

[LolaInLove]

Well, you should believe it now, cuz you have a little dude coming out of you shortly!

[3Pink1Blue]

5- I've only done a tiny bit of shopping. My dad and his gf are throwing me a shower next weekend so I'll fill in holes closer to birth or after he's here so I know what size to get.

Lola- I'll still be in shock even after I see the goods lol

[TTC5]

That is so nice of your Dad! I have never had a baby shower :(
I'm always the one throwing them for everyone else though!

[Kris217]

That is so nice of your Dad! I have never had a baby shower :(
I'm always the one throwing them for everyone else though!

Oh wow, 4 bubs and no baby shower....that's just not right!
Hopefully someone will throw one for you with the next bub :) I don't want a baby shower, I have so much already plus I don't expect people to buy me things.

[CapricornAquarius]

Me to, no one ever threw me a babyshower!

Honestly im not too fussed, but it would be nice though.

[Kris217]

Yes it would be, especially if you've been to all your friends and families and bought them stuff.

[TTC5]

Oh wow, 4 bubs and no baby shower....that's just not right!
Hopefully someone will throw one for you with the next bub :) I don't want a baby shower, I have so much already plus I don't expect people to buy me things.

No never had one! Oh well maybe next time I need to throw hints lol

[TTC5]

Me to, no one ever threw me a babyshower!

Honestly im not too fussed, but it would be nice though.

It would be nice hey, I enjoy them have heaps of fun playing the games :D

[Hobbermittens]

Omg! That would be hilarious! Yeah...these stories are for people that can handle some pretty weird things!!! Let's just say- I used to sell "make your own dildo kits"(molded from your own penis) and a 70yo man came in asking exactly how to do it! Trying not to laugh was one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do! The other stories are wayyyy raunchier....rated R:) LOL! Oh...I had a guy come in and grab "the fist". It's a 15" long dildo in the shape of a fist and forearm!! Along with that he plunked a BUCKET of lube down down beside it on the front desk!!! I just rang it all up, very professional and all, and asked him if he wanted a bag;) LOL! He was a little red in the face when he said, "yes".Hahahahahahaha! Omg... The things I've seen!!!

I would have been trying so hard not to laugh! Especially at the old man!!!

[Flava]

That is so nice of your Dad! I have never had a baby shower :(
I'm always the one throwing them for everyone else though!

same here never had one...but you if you throw shower to other then it is very rude from them not to make one for you

[Flava]

No sign of O and it's already cd16...I don't know what to do DH is waiting for 4 days now! I wanted to dtd today and again the next day or after. But no we can't...I really hope I get a smiley tonight so we can dtd tomorrow , that would be 5 days wait .But if not, DH have to release .And then I hope i don't get a + opk next day or i go crazy!

[Bumblebee]

I just wanted to come in here and declare that I am feeling very stuffed from eating so much food today! I actually feel like banning food and starving myself for a day at least! lol rant over!

hope you girls are all fine and well :) good luck to those ttc x

[Hobbermittens]

Flava!! Last attempt (that didn't work) I had the same problem, but I DTD after the 4 day abstinance, then 48hrs later I got my +opk so we DTD then and the day following as well. Are you having EW already? If so, I say DTD. I wouldn't let your DH wait much longer!

[Hobbermittens]

I just wanted to come in here and declare that I am feeling very stuffed from eating so much food today! I actually feel like banning food and starving myself for a day at least! lol rant over!

hope you girls are all fine and well :) good luck to those ttc x

I hear ya! I feel terribly guilty if I even start to feel hungry because I feel like I am doing something wrong!!

[Plum3]

3P1B, I think you might be onto something with the protein. The only protein I ever used to really eat was at dinner time. I know I am definitely at least doubling my old protein intake so I think that's pretty good.

Lola, I did one more OPK and it was negative. I told myself no matter what the result of it was that I had to stop checking. If I hadn't of done another one I would have never have seen the positive OPK and wouldn't have stressed. Pretty sure I didn't O again though. We didn't end up DTD again, just wasn't in the mood and it didn't feel right. I so hope it doesn't take you a year to get your bubba. It sounds like you have really thought about it all and are comfortable with your decision, that's great.

TTC5 and Flava, can't believe after 4 kids you have never had a baby shower?!

Bumblebee, it's hard feeling so full isn't it? It will settle down though.

Flava, what's happening with your OPKs now?

I have had a pretty crappy week. We had to get our dog put down, she had kidney failure :( Then my dad ended up on hospital a few days ago with respiratory problems, he's fine now though. It's just been a bit emotional!
I have been having a few symptoms- sore back, cramps and crying at the simplest things. I hope they are all good signs!

[TTC5]

Flava I agree, I would go now if you think you are close!!!

Bec - sorry about your dog :( And yay for the signs hey!!!!

I am 8dpo and have no signs I really think I'm out but poor DH is certain I am :(

[3Pink1Blue]

5- It's more my dad's gf but yes, it's very nice of them. I really didn't want to do one but they insisted. I never had one w/dd1 because me grandma had open heart surgery. My sister threw one for dd2 but we pretty much had everything by then. W/dd3 we threw a bbq after she was born, it was more of a meet and greet kinda thing lol You're not out till the flood gates open!!

Hobber - don't feel guilty for getting hungry just grab a snack, I lived off raisons, cashews, string cheese and hard boiled eggs between meals, ooh and never doubt the joy of celery in peanut or cashew butter :)

Bec- my biggest issue was I was an obsessive calorie counter so even though I ate carbs, fat and protein at each meal the quantities were small. It was so hard eating without regard but it got easier and it definitely paid off.
Sorry for such a rough week but I'm glad your dad is ok. It's hard putting a pet down but I always choose to embrace that they are no longer sick or in pain so it was a good thing. Big hug to you.

Fava - if you've got ewcm go for it!

Well my sil (dh's brother's wife) rsvp'd to baby shower that she was bringing her mother. I politely informed her I'm not paying so I'm trying to keep it to close friends and family and her response was basically that since her dh wasn't coming she figured her mom would just fill his space. Really?! This isn't like we bought tix to a movie so any butt is better then wasting a seat. Sil won't do anything without her mom and omg her mom is a bitch. She's then said maybe just count on her and the kids and she'll see if she can ditch her mom, $20 says she brings her or doesn't come at all. Because I'm a bitch I hope she blows it off entirely :bigsmile:

[TTC5]

LOL Jen, good on you for standing up and telling her!

[Flava]

No we are not doing it because I don't want to do it to early. I don't O on the first day of +opk I get 2or 3 days and O only on the last one or after.
3-5 days abst. is good so we wait and see if I get a smiley tomorrow we do it and hopefully a day or 2 after that.
Im out of CB monitor tests so now I can't see when i would have a peak window. just great...But Im not running out to spend 50$ on it now!
another crazy cycle...

Bec-Im sorry about your dog! XXX

[Kris217]

Yeah so sorry about your doggie Bec, even though putting them to sleep is for their benefit it doesn't make it any easier!

[2pinkNoblue]

Hey Ladies I have been stalking this site for a while, I was on IG but it is never accessible any more...I was TeeSharee on IG I have two little girls and am planning to sway this month if I can get my plan together in time if not December. Just wanted to ask if I could join your group I remmeber some of you from IG, Nice to know your still around!

[TTC5]

Welcome 2pink!!!!!!

[love being a mummy]

Welcome 2pinknoblue.
I am trying this month aswell, when are you due to O ?

[Plum3]

5, my DH is totally convinced too. He just wants to go back on his whey protein!

3, it was very hard to see our dog go. She had been sick for a while with kidney failure and I am glad she is finally at peace. I really can't stand when people take it upon themselves to invite others to events. We had a wedding on the weekend and a woman there took her best friend along as her 'plus 1'. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't agree with that at all. I always classify 'plus 1' as a partner.

Flava, so hope you get your positive soon. What CD did you O last cycle?

Kris, thankyou :)

2Pink, welcome!

[3Pink1Blue]

2pinkNoblue- welcome! Most of us here are IG defectors. I was jensgirls but have been here since Feb. I love your name, until Sept 23rd I was 3PinkNeedBlue so gl and blue dust to you!!

Bec- a couple years ago we had to put our dog down after 10yrs with her. I didn't mean to sound callous, even when it's in their best interest it still hurts so much so make that choice.
ITA, your guest is your partner or kids not any old person you want to grab! That said my mom's standing wedding date is my kids but these days all the weddings are for her friends kids and they invite all of us.
Why did you pull dh's whey protein?