Part 2: December TTC & 2ww

[Pbn3]

Congratulations to those bfps we have had and all the best for all those coming into o or on their way to testing! Hope to see more Christmas bfps during the next couple weeks [emoji3]

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[hannahptrussell]

ABC, so sorry to hear you’re going through this. We are one cycle off of 2 miscarriages in a row. Thinking of you today!


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[mummy2boys]

Well I've started spotting now so af must be just round the corner. I'm so fed up, I really felt positive about this cycle. I don't understand why it's taking so long when it was so quick with my boys!


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[Mommy2apples]

Mummy, I know those feelings sweetie. So many hugs to you.


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[mummy2boys]

Thank you mommy [emoji4]


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[LMSM]

Congrats ladies – BBB hope this is your boy! (wow that is a very positive BFP there!) :D

ABC – I am so sorry for you hon, it’s just not fair :( hope you can turn this page soon and move on to finally get a sticky pink bundle– big :hugs:

Mummy2boys – I think pink swayers often find they take a lot longer to fal and stay pregnant than blue swayers as the diet/sway tactics do decrease fertility overall. FX your sticky bub is coming very very soon!!

[mwilson]

I’m with you mummy! Took another test today...stillll negative. We would like to avoid November thru feb due dates so now I feel that pressure on top of the age difference between the kids and my age as well. That internal clock is real my friends!!

[Eighme]

Whelp. I feel like my cycle this month is way off, or I’m just a complete newbie. My tests keeps coming up negative for OPK. I should probably have started actively tracking months ago but my cycles were so spot on, I assumed my ovulation was too! Oh how I was wrong.


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[Filzma]

Eighme I’m right there with you just that this my first cycle tracking and not sure if this is actually my normal! Hang in there though, it could be temporary and settle in the next cycle.

[mummy2boys]

Thank you lmsm, I've pretty much dropped all sway tactics now apart from no breakfast and I'm mostly vegetarian. I think I will have to add more attempts next time too. It's so disheartening getting bfns every month!
Mwilson, I'm with you! I'm 41 in Jan so am feeling my clock ticking! Yes I understand about the due dates thing, we want to avoid winter if poss so I was really hoping for an August baby [emoji17]


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[Verena]

BBB and JP15 massive congrats!!! [emoji3][emoji3][emoji3] So happy for you! BBB how many dpo are you? That line looks like... 20 dpo? Lol

I am 12 dpo now and still bfn. I don't know why I keep torturing myself with testing even though I actually know that I'm out...

I'll try my best not to bring the topic up anymore because I know each time I talk about it, DH will rather make one step back than forward... But I think chances are low that he will do anything unprotected next cycle. He expects me to tell him when we are in the critical days and I don't want to lie...[emoji17] maybe I can get an attempt in at cd8 or something. This month I o'ed on cd11... But this still feels like lying. [emoji17] so I guess I just have to wait and see...

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[JP15]

Well I've started spotting now so af must be just round the corner. I'm so fed up, I really felt positive about this cycle. I don't understand why it's taking so long when it was so quick with my boys!


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Hi Mummy, When is AF due? I was spotting (even when i took my test) and mine was a BFP.
I understand how you feel, literally pregnant straight away with my boys and ttc for 8 cycles (I know not as long as some people) with this one. How long have you been ttc?

[mummy2boys]

Hi jp and huge congrats! Thank you for telling me about your spotting. I think mine is probably af as it always starts with spotting for a couple of days and I've had another bfn this morning. We've been trying for a year and a half but have only had about 7 attempts in that time as DH works away so has missed o on quite a few occasions. I had an early loss in July too. This month I thought our attempts were well timed and I just felt different. Probably imagining things lol [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Girlswaylondon]

Hi all, congrats to those on their bfps!

Been thinking of you abc.

I’m not due to ovulate until the 20th

[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys have you considered smep?

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[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon have you started charting? How is it going?

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[JP15]

Hi jp and huge congrats! Thank you for telling me about your spotting. I think mine is probably af as it always starts with spotting for a couple of days and I've had another bfn this morning. We've been trying for a year and a half but have only had about 7 attempts in that time as DH works away so has missed o on quite a few occasions. I had an early loss in July too. This month I thought our attempts were well timed and I just felt different. Probably imagining things lol [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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Sorry to hear that! Good luck to you!

[Noemi2017]

Hello girlsway, how r u? I think we will ovulate again the same date? Will u do this month 1attempt or e4d? Good luck:pregnant:

[Girlswaylondon]

Pbn - still charting! :) but not very well lol! Keep forgetting!

Noemi - I’m well thanks how are you? I know we always ovuLate same time :) sticking to 1 attempt I think! What about you? How many months have you been ttc now?

[Mommy2apples]

Mummy, my chart from
Bfp cycle. That’s the only way I could conceive, is adding in extra attempts.
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/50268a



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[Eighme]

Eighme I’m right there with you just that this my first cycle tracking and not sure if this is actually my normal! Hang in there though, it could be temporary and settle in the next cycle.

I’m glad someone else is having the same issue! I’ll test next week and see where I’m at. This definitely has a learning curve!


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[mwilson]

Well I'm officially out. Af crashed the party and a few days early, ugh. That makes it a short 24 day cycle. Is that a problem?

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway thx im fine, little nervous about this month, i start to have fertile cm, so maybe ovulation will be soon. Im ttc already 2months so not long, i did before e5d so not big chance for become pregnant. This month i will do 1attempt at positive opk. I wish to be pregnant this month:pregnant:and ofc with my dream:DD:

[Girlswaylondon]

Sounds like you’ll ovulate soon! Get testing!

This is my 3rd month ttc and really take my hat off to the ladies trying for a long time it’s exhausting!

[Pbn3]

Well I'm officially out. Af crashed the party and a few days early, ugh. That makes it a short 24 day cycle. Is that a problem?Mwilson what cd did you o or what cd was your pos opk?

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[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon can you post a link to your chart?

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[mwilson]

Here is the link to my chart. I got my first positive on cd 11 but also got one on 12. https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2d6163

[mummy2boys]

Hi Pbn, yeah I think smep might be worth looking into, I don't know much about it though.
Thanks for sharing your chart Mommy, wow you guys really went for it that cycle! And it worked! Not sure I've got the energy [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
So I've not spotted today but I've been very crampy. Took yet another test and there is a very faint line ( not excited at all though as it's a similar blue dye to the last one) This line came up straight away though.


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[mwilson]

Hi Pbn, yeah I think smep might be worth looking into, I don't know much about it though.
Thanks for sharing your chart Mommy, wow you guys really went for it that cycle! And it worked! Not sure I've got the energy [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
So I've not spotted today but I've been very crampy. Took yet another test and there is a very faint line ( not excited at all though as it's a similar blue dye to the last one) This line came up straight away though.


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What day are you again? I thought I started today, but just spotting a little this morning. I though have super white tests (not sure why I keep testing), but I have fingers crossed that you have a strong positive!

[mummy2boys]

Thank you mwilson. I'm 11 dpo I think. I totally understand you still testing, I can't fight the urge either! Do you usually spot before af?


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[Filzma]

Mummy2boys sounds promising! I hope it’s a bfp for you this time!

[Mommy2apples]

Lol mummy. There were a couple days I didn’t think he was going to be able too, but he kept up!
Hoping this is your bfp though!


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[Filzma]

Lol mommy2apples. That has me chuckling.[emoji16] paid off!

[mwilson]

Thank you mwilson. I'm 11 dpo I think. I totally understand you still testing, I can't fight the urge either! Do you usually spot before af?


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Yeah I do. But I also spotted before my last positive that ended in mc.

[mummy2boys]

Me too mwilson!


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[Pbn3]

Mwilson if you oed cd12 or 13 then that is perfectly normal and a lp of 12+ days is fantastic. I would not be concerned at all if I were you. My cycles were usually 26 days but got as short as 24 days.

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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys can you get a pink dye test preferbly an frer to test with?

So smep is very straightforward. Bd eod (every 48 hours) from cd8 or cd10 if you prefer. Then bd three days in a row at pos opk, skip a day and bd again the following. So as an example if you started cd10 and got a pos op on cd14 this would be your bds: cd10, cd12, cd14, cd15, cd16 and cd18.

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[mwilson]

Mummy2boys can you get a pink dye test preferbly an frer to test with?

So smep is very straightforward. Bd eod (every 48 hours) from cd8 or cd10 if you prefer. Then bd three days in a row at pos opk, skip a day and bd again the following. So as an example if you started cd10 and got a pos op on cd14 this would be your bds: cd10, cd12, cd14, cd15, cd16 and cd18.

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That sounds exhausting hahaha.

[Pbn3]

Yes is does mwilson [emoji23] but it has good odds for conception and is highly recommended for older woman and/or those who have been trying unsuccessfully for a long time. It has nothing to do with swaying though and is simpy a go to when just trying to get pregnant :)

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[Pbn3]

I would highly recommend sperm safe lube for anyone attempting smep [emoji23]

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[ABC.2606]

Mummy - Can't wait to see if your next test is a clear bfp :) FX for you!

mwilson - I've always had 24 day cycles and routinely ovulate on day 13/14, so 10/11 day LP. Had that when I conceived my two boys and it didn't cause any issues with them.

[Girlswaylondon]

Pbn here’s my chart, nothing much going on, that spike was after a bad sleep and lots of alcohol lol...

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6ca024

[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon what was your plan of attack this cycle again? Was it one attempt at pos opk or are you going to start e4d now (so three full days between) and ditch the opks? Sorry I'm sleep deprived and struggling to remember my own name [emoji51]

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[Girlswaylondon]

Well unintentionally we’ve been dtd quite a bit this month...just happened! :suprise: lol if dh ain’t happy motto right?! :p

So think it’s gonna be an unintentional e5dish?! Lol I’m expecting my pos opk in 5/6 days so told him no more until then!

[mummy2boys]

Well I had two faint lines on clear blue tests so managed to get a frer and it's completely white! I'm so cross with clear blue!! I'll post one of the pics so you can all see. Taken within 5 minutes too so shouldn't be evaps


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[mummy2boys]

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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys that's heartbreaking [emoji174] such a decent line too [emoji34] I'd be sending a complaint with this pic big time and giving them what for!!!! I've seen similar to this with someone a couple months ago that went through the same thing. Wish I could remember who it was [emoji848] They were getting pos on these and negative on others. I really hope in this case the frer is wrong but I wouldn't be getting my hopes up [emoji22]

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[mummy2boys]

Thanks pbn. I'm pretty annoyed, my temp went up this morning and spotting stopped so I was getting excited! I've crashed down with a bump now though [emoji17] I'm gonna try the smep you explained earlier next cycle, can't keep going on like this month after month it's really disheartening [emoji17]


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[Pbn3]

Woah mummy2boys that's a massive spike [emoji50] Are you sure that frer is stark? Maybe go back for another look?

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[mummy2boys]

Yeah it's stark!! I'm staring at it hoping [emoji23]


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[mwilson]

Mummy, yes I stare too. I even go back hours later and then the next day :eek:. I'm definitely upping attempts next month. May not do smep, but maybe every other or two days in between around the fertile days. It is definitely disheartening every month.

[Babybeaublue]

Mummy that's a very clear line. I had problems with those tests before but they dried out. Never kept the blue colour AND your temp has gone up??!?! So frustrating fx still tho

[ABC.2606]

That's so odd Mummy - that really looks like a clear line. How many dpo are you?

[mummy2boys]

I think I'm 12 dpo. It's weird! Two tests did exactly the same, the lines came up straight away but I've done two frers and both are completely white! I'm going to send a strongly worded email to clear blue! My lp was always 10 or 11 days but last month it was 14 and it looks like this month is similar. Does anyone know if taking b vitamins changes your cycle? That's the only thing I'm doing differently [emoji848]


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[Babybeaublue]

B6 I think is supposed to lengthen lp

[Babybeaublue]

Anyone have headaches or backache early on in pregnancy??

[mtolbert1]

Anyone have headaches or backache early on in pregnancy??BBB I had headaches and backaches early on with all of my previous pregnancies! Congratulations by the way!!!!

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[mtolbert1]

Mummy- thats so strange!!! I've had that happen on 1 blue dye test before, but 3?! That just seems cruel! I hope you get your BFP soon! Pbn suggested the smep for me too! That's what we did this cycle so i will let everyone know how it goes!

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[mummy2boys]

Thanks mtolbert, yes it does seem cruel! Evil tests [emoji35][emoji35][emoji35]
Hope this cycle works for you 🤞🤞 Yes let us know how smep goes!


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[Eighme]

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Can anyone help with this? Maybe this isn’t very helpful. However I tested at the beginning of this week and had a faint, but there line and as of today no lines. Is that possible for ovulation to occur THAT quickly or is it possible to have a surge and then get a positive OPK later in the month?


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[hannahptrussell]

Eugene, I’ve had that where I just wasn’t testing early enough. I think I was catching the tail-end of my surge. Also, there is something to testing every single day at the same time, 2 different times. I was missing my surges and then went to 2x day and finally caught them!!

BBB, headaches and heartburn are my only 2 signs for early pregnancy. [emoji6]

Mummy, cruel tests indeed. I’d definitely stay away from those altogether. I do the .88 ones from Walmart and have had lots of luck with those. If I’m just getting a faint, I usually follow up with a digital. It’s amazing how final the actual words are.


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[hannahptrussell]

Eugene?!? What a spell check on that one! Eighme. Tee Hee


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[Pbn3]

Eighme what time are you testing? Are you restricting fluids and holding prior to testing? The ideal time for most people is to test between 1-3pm then follow up with another between 7-9pm if you're testing twice. You can go from a stark negative opk to a pos in two days or get a build up. Everyone is different. Without temping its impossible to know whether you've oed or not...

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[hannahptrussell]

Eugene?!? What a spell check on that one! Eighme. Tee Hee


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[hannahptrussell]

Would anyone care to chime in on this little phenom? Or explain what in the world?!
So i had a chemical pregnancy last cycle. Starting bleeding exactly one week after my due AF. Have been pretty good at my OPKs since I started bleeding, knowing it may be anytime that I would ovulate. Had some strong not quite positives early on and didn’t think much of them since I never got a true positive. Had 3 true positives in a row for the past few days and thought I’d test hcg just in case I ovulated right after I miscarried. So I have 2 faint positives with mid-day testing. Is this serious? Did I completely miss my surge? And should I start progesterone as planned now? Or wait another day or two to make sure this isn’t a fluke?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171214/f5c329ba3e587f8533a42ecd53045614.jpg


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[Mommy2apples]

I’d be calling doctors for beta testing honestly.


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[Eighme]

Eighme what time are you testing? Are you restricting fluids and holding prior to testing? The ideal time for most people is to test between 1-3pm then follow up with another between 7-9pm if you're testing twice. You can go from a stark negative opk to a pos in two days or get a build up. Everyone is different. Without temping its impossible to know whether you've oed or not...

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Thanks, PBN! I was actually testing first thing in the morning and then in the evening? I’ll give what you recommended a try. I wasn’t withholding liquids or anything. I just assumed these would detect it despite everything else. Oh how I am a newbie!


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[atomic sagebrush]

It is possible to have heavy bleeding when pregnant and be pregnant the entire time. You can have an SCH or lose a twin. This actually happened to me personally. My concern is that your tests would probably be darker if that was the case but I agree with Mommy that I'd consider going in for a beta to see what the number says.

Other option is that the pregnancy ended but some tissue was left behind, but that is usually not the case with a chemical.

I think we need more to go on.

[Eighme]

Eugene, I’ve had that where I just wasn’t testing early enough. I think I was catching the tail-end of my surge. Also, there is something to testing every single day at the same time, 2 different times. I was missing my surges and then went to 2x day and finally caught them!!

BBB, headaches and heartburn are my only 2 signs for early pregnancy. [emoji6]

Mummy, cruel tests indeed. I’d definitely stay away from those altogether. I do the .88 ones from Walmart and have had lots of luck with those. If I’m just getting a faint, I usually follow up with a digital. It’s amazing how final the actual words are.


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Eugene... Eighme... same thing, almost! They sound similar. That might be an issue too. This is my first month at an actual attempt and I hadn’t ever tried or tracked ovulation before. I thought my predictor would be pretty spot on because it’s always predicting my periods to the day correctly. But, maybe not so with ovulation! I probably should try what Pbn recommended and twice a day at different times.


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[Pbn3]

Thanks, PBN! I was actually testing first thing in the morning and then in the evening? I’ll give what you recommended a try. I wasn’t withholding liquids or anything. I just assumed these would detect it despite everything else. Oh how I am a newbie!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEighme almost all dip opks recommend not using fmu and not to test prior to 11am. The most widely recommended time frame to catch your surge is between 1-3pm and if your urine is too diluted by fluids then it will affect your result, hence the fluid intake restriction for 2-3 hours prior and holding for at least 2 hours. Give it go now if you like (depending of course what time it is where you are) or wait until tomorrow. If you have missed your surge this cycle then can I recommend you try the Clearblue dual hormone digis next cycle. They specifically use fmu so there is no holding or restricting fluids involved. Read the instructions that will tell you what cd to begin testing on. Up to you completely as now you're aware of what was going wrong this cycle you may wish to continue using the ones you have :)

I am assuming your using IC dip test opks??!!! Thought I better confirm so can you let me know if different?

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[hannahptrussell]

It is possible to have heavy bleeding when pregnant and be pregnant the entire time. You can have an SCH or lose a twin. This actually happened to me personally. My concern is that your tests would probably be darker if that was the case but I agree with Mommy that I'd consider going in for a beta to see what the number says.

Other option is that the pregnancy ended but some tissue was left behind, but that is usually not the case with a chemical.

I think we need more to go on.

Yeah. I tested until I got 2 consecutive negative tests. If I do some assumptions based on my calendar, I “could” be 9dpo today. IF I ovulated right after those negative tests. I think I’ll wait 2 days, test with FMU and go from there. We’ll see. This would be our 3rd child conceived in an unexpected way. [emoji6]


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[mummy2boys]

Can you post your chart for us to stalk Hannah? [emoji23][emoji23]
Well still no period for me but another bfn. So I'm pretty sure I'm out. I hate being in limbo!


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[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys there is the possibility that you're only 9dpo so af may be 1-3 days away? Maybe? Next cycle can I suggest you keep doing opks for the week following your first positive just to be on the safe side... Also it may be worth giving e3d (so every 72 hours, two full days between bds) a go, plus an extra attempt at pos opk before attempting SMEP. Keep doing the e3d for the week following pos opk just in case. So as an example bd cd8, cd11, cd14, cd17, cd20, cd23 and just add in the extra attempt wherever your pos opk falls eg cd15 etc OR if it falls on a scheduled day then dtd the following day maybe? Something to think about anyway. You could even stretch the bds further out to e4d (so three full days between) eg cd8, cd12, cd16, cd20, cd24 plus extra at pos opk if you prefer to try that first? If that doesn't work go onto e3d plus extra attempt as described above and if that fails then go straight to SMEP from there?

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[Verena]

Mummy how many dpo are you? Swaying made my lp go from 12 days to 14 in the last two months. This time it's back at 12 days. Really strange swaying effects.

So CD1 for me today...[emoji36]

ABC and Robin how are you doing? Have been thinking of you...

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[mummy2boys]

I'm on 13 dpo I think verena but not sure as my thermometer broke at the crucial moment [emoji23][emoji23] Sorry it's cd 1 for you. It's one day sooner to the next attempt though 🤞
Thanks pbn, yes I like your thinking. I'm probably going to just go for it this time [emoji23] DH is going to be away working after Christmas which means it's going to mess up out attempts. DH is very happy to bd whenever/wherever [emoji51][emoji51] So I may just give him a happy Christmas and let him do it when he wants.. I've pretty much dropped all the swaying stuff now except I'm vegetarian now and take fibre. I still long for a girl but the urge for a baby ( any baby!) is strong now so time to get cracking [emoji23]


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[Georgia_Peach]

Mummy how many dpo are you? Swaying made my lp go from 12 days to 14 in the last two months. This time it's back at 12 days. Really strange swaying effects.

So CD1 for me today...[emoji36]

ABC and Robin how are you doing? Have been thinking of you...

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I'm on my last month ttc before starting ivf. I couldn't get in earlier than early Jan to start. Funny enough this is my first month ttc that i am unmedicated. I am not sure if I will even have an attempt this month as I do not have any faith left in anything. I am due to ovulate next week so I guess we will see.
Merry Christmas to you all.
Hope Santa brings you all a bfp!

[Eighme]

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Well, I was all upset yesterday. And tested again today and I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten my first positive OPK! The right line is the test line and the left is what came up this morning!

Does this seem right?!


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[Eighme]

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Well, I was all upset yesterday. And tested again today and I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten my first positive OPK! The right line is the test line and the left is what came up this morning!

Does this seem right?!


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Also, I just realized I made that picture entirely too huge on my computer screen.


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[mwilson]

that definitely looks positive!

[Eighme]

Yay!

[HGmama]

So am I the only one not using fertility friend? I've always used "My days" and then last time (2014) I used ovia for a month and ive been using ovia again.

Trying to determine if it's worth transferring all my info over.... ugh

Thoughts?

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[Babybeaublue]

So I nearly had a heart attack when I saw the first response eighme! I had no idea they did ovulation tests!! Thought it was a bfp!!!

Mummy i cant see the link yo your chart anymore? How am I supposed to stalk when it keeps disappearing???

Robin it's good to hear from you! Hoping things happen naturally and you won't have to go HTxxx

ABC what's happening??

Girlsway FF is definitely the easiest to use and read. May be worthwhile transferring even this month and last months cycle info.

Good luck everyone !

[Eighme]

So I nearly had a heart attack when I saw the first response eighme! I had no idea they did ovulation tests!! Thought it was a bfp!!!

Mummy i cant see the link yo your chart anymore? How am I supposed to stalk when it keeps disappearing???

Robin it's good to hear from you! Hoping things happen naturally and you won't have to go HTxxx

ABC what's happening??

Girlsway FF is definitely the easiest to use and read. May be worthwhile transferring even this month and last months cycle info.

Good luck everyone !

I know BBB, isn’t that crazy? It’s really deceiving with the packaging too. You have to read. It was the only one I could find at the time where I was. But, it’s worked out okay I guess!


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[ABC.2606]

Verena and BBB - thanks for asking, not much news, saw my doc yesterday and we agreed this is most likely headed towards m/c. My hcg is very very low, I had another blood draw yesterday but haven't heard yet on that, and the lines on the FRERs continue to get lighter each day. At this point I just want it to be over with. I don't want to lose my baby but waiting in limbo knowing what's coming is even worse. I'm heartbroken, but it is what it is right now. I want to stop the progesterone as I think it may be delaying the bleeding but I'm trying to wait on the doc's next call to confirm that I should do that.

Robin - I'm sorry it didn't work this past time :( Will you keep us updated as you start IVF? So hoping that goes well for you. I have a good friend going through it right now (she can't conceive naturally due to blocked tubes) so I've been learning a bit about it. It's a fascinating process! I hope you get your beautiful pink bundle very soon!

Girlsway I switched from another program to FF too and I really like FF now. Although I didn't have that much data on the other program so I wasn't losing much.

Mummy I'm sorry about the BFNs :( Sounds like that may be a good plan to just be more relaxed in the attempts this next cycle - that seems to be successful for lots of people in getting pregnant!!

GL to everyone testing & attempting soon! I'm trying to keep up but I've been away from the boards a little more... I feel kinda lost on here right now given the situation I'm in.

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[Pbn3]

Eighme which line is the one that always comes up? Is it on the left or right? The line that always appears is the control line and the one that appears lighter or same or darker than the control line is the test line. If the test line is the left line then its looking very close to pos. What time did you do this test?

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[Pbn3]

Eighme can you also get another pic without the glare? On second look it does look really close....

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[Pbn3]

GirlswayHGmama I would definately recommend making the switch to ff and agree would enter both this cycles and last cycles info.

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[Pbn3]

Robin for some reason I thought you were starting BC so its great to hear you'll have one more natural (albeit unmedicated) cycle. I think its the cycles we have no faith in are often the ones that can result in that elusive bfp. Seen it happen time and time again and hope to again in your case xxoo

Abc I understand how you're feeling and hope your doc makes the call to get you off the progesterone really soon. I hated the wait between knowing what was coming and for things to actually start. I would be checking/expecting to see bleeding every. single. time I went to the bathroom and it was always a bizarre mix of relief and frustration when there was none. I don't know how else to describe it. It really messes with your mind though. Is it maybe worth calling his office and asking the question directly? If your hcg is dropping to a really low level I'm not sure why they would have you still be taking it [emoji17]

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[Georgia_Peach]

Robin for some reason I thought you were starting BC so its great to hear you'll have one more natural (albeit unmedicated) cycle. I think its the cycles we have no faith in are often the ones that can result in that elusive bfp. Seen it happen time and time again and hope to again in your case xxoo

Abc I understand how you're feeling and hope your doc makes the call to get you off the progesterone really soon. I hated the wait between knowing what was coming and for things to actually start. I would be checking/expecting to see bleeding every. single. time I went to the bathroom and it was always a bizarre mix of relief and frustration when there was none. I don't know how else to describe it. It really messes with your mind though. Is it maybe worth calling his office and asking the question directly? If your hcg is dropping to a really low level I'm not sure why they would have you still be taking it [emoji17]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkYes I switched clinics and they do not reccomend bcp so I get one cycle off before jumping right into it. If all goes good.. and we hopefully have more than 1 healthy female embryo... we plan on transferring 2 in early feb!

[Pbn3]

That's fantastic!!! Are you tempted to wait it out or would you rather still give it a go this cycle?

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[Georgia_Peach]

That's fantastic!!! Are you tempted to wait it out or would you rather still give it a go this cycle?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI'll prob have 1 attempt.. I don't know yet.
Yet ANOTHER person on my social media announced shes having a baby girl.pigeon pair of course. I feel like crawling into a hole.

[Eighme]

I https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171215/919228432be29fe61bca1b217a412c76.jpg

Pbn, Tried to take a second shot in natural light. Left is the test, right is the control line. I took this test at 9:00 this morning after having no fluids.


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[ABC.2606]

Robin for some reason I thought you were starting BC so its great to hear you'll have one more natural (albeit unmedicated) cycle. I think its the cycles we have no faith in are often the ones that can result in that elusive bfp. Seen it happen time and time again and hope to again in your case xxoo

Abc I understand how you're feeling and hope your doc makes the call to get you off the progesterone really soon. I hated the wait between knowing what was coming and for things to actually start. I would be checking/expecting to see bleeding every. single. time I went to the bathroom and it was always a bizarre mix of relief and frustration when there was none. I don't know how else to describe it. It really messes with your mind though. Is it maybe worth calling his office and asking the question directly? If your hcg is dropping to a really low level I'm not sure why they would have you still be taking it [emoji17]

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Pbn - That's EXACTLY how I feel. Relief and frustration every.damn.time I pee!!!! :( :( And you feel terrible that you "want" it to happen but you only want it to because you know it's coming anyways. It's an AWFUL place to be in.

So - I think a little bit of spotting has started, so maybe this is it. We'll see.

[ABC.2606]

WOW that's fast Robin!!! So if it happens, early Feb would give you a November baby (or babies!)?

Hang in there - I know it's hard :(

[Pbn3]

Eighme I'd do another at 3pm to be sure but looks like today may be your day [emoji3][emoji322][emoji322] that is really close! I think your next one will be a no doubt about it result!!

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[Pbn3]

Abc I hope the spotting is the start for you even though its heartbreaking [emoji174] at the same time you may on your way out of that dreadful limbo land. There'll be a whole new wave of grief and tears coming but you will feel better again in the coming weeks I promise. Still sad of course and certain things will trigger more tears and anger but overall it will get better. Biggest hugs xxoo

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[Eighme]

Eighme I'd do another at 3pm to be sure but looks like today may be your day [emoji3][emoji322][emoji322] that is really close! I think your next one will be a no doubt about it result!!

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Thank you!!


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[Georgia_Peach]

WOW that's fast Robin!!! So if it happens, early Feb would give you a November baby (or babies!)?

Hang in there - I know it's hard :(It would be late October baby.

[mummy2boys]

BBB I've tried to fix my link for stalking purposes, let me know if it's worked!
ABC I'm so sorry you are going through this, the waiting is the worst. And yet it feels like there is still a tiny glimmer of hope. I totally understand.
Eighme, that looks very nearly positive!
Good to hear from you Robin. Really hope it works out for you 🤞in Feb! Or even before then, maybe being relaxed because you know what's happening in Feb will help with the natural cycle!


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[ABC.2606]

It would be late October baby.I'm an October baby and it's a great birthday month! Here's hoping for an October baby for you! (Unless you decide to try this cycle and then I hope you get a nice surprise before February!)

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks Mummy and Pbn. It's hard but I'll get through it. Just hoping that my door hasn't closed on having a healthy baby eventually. I don't know why it would have, but I'm def a little worried now.

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[Georgia_Peach]

I'm an October baby and it's a great birthday month! Here's hoping for an October baby for you! (Unless you decide to try this cycle and then I hope you get a nice surprise before February!)

Sent from my SM-G900T using TapatalkThanks ABC. Yes we already have a oct baby abd just love his personality. He is so laid back! Are trying this month?

[Girlswaylondon]

Hope you get answers soon abc :(

Pbn I notice my temps are quite low 35.8 etc, is this normal? I tend to sleep with my mout open could this be why? I stupidly googled and thyroid problems came up with low temps! Don’t have any symptoms of that though..

[Filzma]

ABC I’m so sorry, sending prayers and love your way [emoji120][emoji177]

Robin wish you the best of luck for February!! [emoji120]

[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon if you sleep with mouth open on and off during the night its pointless temping orally IMHO. It's just going to cause more stress and confusion. If you don't want to temp vaginally (which is perfectly fine) I wouldn't bother with it at all. However you can stull use ff to to track your bds, cm and opks :)

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[ABC.2606]

Well the bleeding has started - it's official :( :( At least the waiting period is over. Kinda of in a shock/denial/don't want to think about it phase right now. Thank you all for the support.

Girlsway - I always run low body temps - both BBTs and during the daytime. My tsh (thyroid) used to be at the higher end of the normal range but since my doctor started treating me w/ thyroid hormone meds (he just wanted it a bit lower for pregnancy), it's now on the lower side of the normal range... And yet my temps haven't changed at all. So I don't think thyroid is always the reason for lower temps, but if you're concerned your doctor can check your thyroid with a blood test. And like Pbn said I have noticed lower temps when my mouth was open during the night.

[Pbn3]

Hugest hugs Abc xxoo here anytime you need [emoji173]

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[Babybeaublue]

Abc hope time passes quickly for you x big hugs xxx

Mummy the link is working again Thanks!

[Girlswaylondon]

Hope it’s over quickly abc and you can move on x

Another question, dh has wanted to dtd a lot this month! (I blame cold weather) so it’s become an unintentional e5d for us, but this morning we ended up dtd again but I made him pull out (so sorry tmi!!) does this count as another attempt?! I’m worried because I’m due to ovulate soon! Damn my dh lol

[mwilson]

Cd 1 :sad: . 2 more cycles of trying until we stop for 4-5 months or for good. Didn’t think it would take this long.

[mummy2boys]

Hope you are okay abc. Hugs xx
Mwilson, me too! Cd1 today. Another weird cycle for me [emoji848]
Girlsway, I wouldn't count a pull out as an attempt. We've used that 'method' of contraception lol for years and I've not got pregnant so I don't reckon it counts as an attempt


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[mwilson]

Hope you are okay abc. Hugs xx
Mwilson, me too! Cd1 today. Another weird cycle for me [emoji848]
Girlsway, I wouldn't count a pull out as an attempt. We've used that 'method' of contraception lol for years and I've not got pregnant so I don't reckon it counts as an attempt


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hopefully this next one is a positive for us both!!

[Pbn3]

Mummy2boys and mwilson sorry for cd1 arriving [emoji22] all the best for this coming cycle [emoji173]

Girlswaylondon I too wouldn't count pull out as an attempt.

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[HGmama]

I switched over the last 8 months of data to fertility and friend.

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1f2c

Let's see if I did this link right.

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[Noemi2017]

Hello girls, should i do attempt tonight? It is partial positive opk. Some months i have partial positive one day before ovulation some months two days before ovulation. I dont want to miss my egg:)this month so maybe better do attempt tonight?38448

[HGmama]

Hello girls, should i do attempt tonight? It is partial positive opk. Some months i have partial positive one day before ovulation some months two days before ovulation. I dont want to miss my egg:)this month so maybe better do attempt tonight?38448Do you have any pics to compare to previous months? It's hard for me to judge it because I always have a little bit of LH.

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[Noemi2017]

Previous month one day before ovulation:38449

[Filzma]

That looks pretty consistent Noemi. If you o’d the same time last month, that probably tips odds in your favour. Good luck!!

I’m in the 2ww, decided to go for it and have a somewhat light blue sway. Currently 3dpo. Any ideas how to distract myself? When’s the earliest I can begin testing?

[Girlswaylondon]

Noemi do you limit drinking fluids before testing? I find the less I drink the more blazing the positive opk is! Good luck for this month :)

[Noemi2017]

Hello girlsway, yes i limit fluids, test was from the morning 10:30am, i did other now in the evening and it doesnt look positive so better i wait:(38456

[Girlswaylondon]

I’m due to ovulate any day now too! Good luck! :)

[Noemi2017]

Thx u good luck to u too:fx:

[Pbn3]

Noemi the best time to test using dip tests like yours is between 1-3pm and again at 7-9pm if it looks close to pos. I strongly recommend not testing prior to 11am as your earlier morning urines can affect your result. That earlier opk you posted was still quite a ways from positive. Can I ask how you know it looked like that the day before o last cycle? Are you temping and if so can I see your chart from that cycle?

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[Noemi2017]

Thx for advice Pbn3, yes im temping. U can look at my chart it was from october not november. 38458

[Pbn3]

Thanks Noemi [emoji3] can you tell which cd you had a similar opk to as this mornings? Also how long (in days) did that cycle end up being?

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[HGmama]

That looks pretty consistent Noemi. If you o’d the same time last month, that probably tips odds in your favour. Good luck!!

I’m in the 2ww, decided to go for it and have a somewhat light blue sway. Currently 3dpo. Any ideas how to distract myself? When’s the earliest I can begin testing?Good question. I waited until 10 dpo last time but that's just me. In hindsight I had symptoms but no bfp.
Good luck on distraction. It's the holidays so just enjoy life.

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[HGmama]

So fun question. Planning ed4.... but what happens if we wanna have sex sooner for fun? [emoji7]

Pull out or is that going to mess up our ed4? Doesn't look like I'm o-ing anytime soon. I usually have slow rise in LH before positive.

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[Pbn3]

GirlswayHGmama I'd have dh use a condom for any bds outside of your e4d :)

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[Pbn3]

Eighme did you end up getting a pos opk?

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[Noemi2017]

Pbn3 i had similar opk cd22 in that chart and cycle was long 34 days. Every month is little bit different, i will test again today my opk:) how can i share my charts if u want to see them. Im temping from 2015:)

[Pbn3]

Noemi at the top rh corner press the dropdown menu and select share chart and data, select create/preview homepage and then press on the link/web address shown. It will open up in your browser. Copy the link/web address and paste into a post in here :)

What time is it where you are?

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[Girlswaylondon]

How are you pbn? I realised i didn’t know when you were due? :)

[Pbn3]

I'm due 18th January girlswaylondon but I'll go in a week earlier as I have to have a scheduled c-section :)

I've had such a good pregnancy up until now so I cant complain. But now I'm not sleeping well, my toilet trips have become an absolute joke and its getting harder to walk for any period of time. So much for cant complain [emoji23][emoji23]

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[Girlswaylondon]

I think once we enter the third trimester we’re entitled to some complaining! :D I’m a January baby too :D

[Eighme]

Eighme did you end up getting a pos opk?

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I did! I got a pos OPk later that day. We DTD that night. So, we will see!!


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[Noemi2017]

Pbn3 now it is 1pm here i did right now opk and i think it is nearly positive, i hope ovulation will be tomorrow i want to do 1attempt tonight:hug2:38460

[Pbn3]

Noemi can you post a link to your chart? That opk isn't positive however if it looks similar to what your previous ones do 1-2 days before o then go ahead and get an attempt in. However I would keep testing at 1pm over the next few days. At least then if you do get a proper positive you can decide whether to bd again (if tonights attempt has little chance of conception) or you'll o and be covered. I put instructions on how to post your chart link a few posts back. It's 10.15pm for me, if I don't respond tonight I will in the morning [emoji3]

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[Pbn3]

I switched over the last 8 months of data to fertility and friend.

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1f2c

Let's see if I did this link right.

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkThat link works (have saved for stalking [emoji6] ) however its only showing this cycles chart. When do you usually o?

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[HGmama]

That link works (have saved for stalking [emoji6] ) however its only showing this cycles chart. When do you usually o?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkSomewhere between cycle day 10&12. Thinking this is going to be a little longer cycle. My body is adjusting to getting Mirena out on 12/6.

I have a feeling that I might have been pregnant in October since I had a 35 day cycle and that's way out of character even with mirena in. I was in that small percentage that still ovulated and had periods.

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[Noemi2017]

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5eaa0f

[Girlswaylondon]

Noemi I don’t think that’s positive but it’s so close! Mine look like that the day before my positive opk! :)

This is mine today
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I’m due to get my positive opk tomorrow!

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway wow so again we are the same:) mostly i have partial positive opk one day before ovulation so in ovulation day i have very strong positive. I really dont want to miss my egg, attempt will be tonight. I really pray:pray: this is our month :pregnant: :DD:

[Noemi2017]

When will u do attempt?

[Girlswaylondon]

That’s unusual I’ve never heard of a postitive opk on ovulation but not before!

I always attempt the day of my strong positive (:

[Noemi2017]

Yes some months i have it like that maybe my LH surge is late:( i really hope it is not late for my attempt tonight like it was in october:(

[Girlswaylondon]

Maybe you’re surge is short? Do you test opk twice a day?

[hannahptrussell]

Okay ladies. The mystery positive pregnancy test at positive OPK was proved to be a false positive. Of which I have never received. But all 4 of those showed faint lines. Went back and grabbed a FRER and it was negative. Took that as the truth. (I did google and found that a few women were getting faint positive pregnancy tests at ovulation) very odd. Since my cycle has been all over the place, I’m just relaxing and doing what I normally would do.
Now for the question: I have prometrium that was prescribed to take orally. Should I take that or use it as a suppository? Any advice using one method over the other?


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[Noemi2017]

Yes twice daily, around noon and in the evening

[Eighme]

I haven’t ever been so anxious for a period to start/not start before. When I conceived my son we weren’t swaying or anything. Just DTD when we felt like it, I wasn’t keeping track of anything. This is so different trying to track ovulation, get the one attempt, ect.


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[Girlswaylondon]

I haven’t ever been so anxious for a period to start/not start before. When I conceived my son we weren’t swaying or anything. Just DTD when we felt like it, I wasn’t keeping track of anything. This is so different trying to track ovulation, get the one attempt, ect.


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I feel like this too!

[Filzma]

Eighme me too!! I remember I tested a week after AF was due when we were ttc DD. Lol what was I thinking? And now, it’s all I think about. Counting the hours to 8dpo. Also worried about how my hypothyroidism will affect a potential bfp this time round. It’s draining.[emoji30] OTOH, so glad I’m doing this as I’ve never been this in tune with my body. I even know the side I ovulated from. [emoji44]

[ABC.2606]

Okay ladies. The mystery positive pregnancy test at positive OPK was proved to be a false positive. Of which I have never received. But all 4 of those showed faint lines. Went back and grabbed a FRER and it was negative. Took that as the truth. (I did google and found that a few women were getting faint positive pregnancy tests at ovulation) very odd. Since my cycle has been all over the place, I’m just relaxing and doing what I normally would do.
Now for the question: I have prometrium that was prescribed to take orally. Should I take that or use it as a suppository? Any advice using one method over the other?


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Hannah - I would check with your doctor about the Prometrium. My doc prescribed Prometrium (the orange/pinkish capsules) but told me to use them vaginally. I believe they are thought to be more effective when used vaginally - but I'm surprised your doctor wasn't clear on which way you should use it.

[Girlswaylondon]

Ladies my opk has darkened since this morning and I’m worried my surge will start overnight! Do you think I should wait or dtd tonight?

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Excuse the chipped nails, Mum life!

[Filzma]

ABC how you holding up? Was thinking of you earlier on today. Xx

[ABC.2606]

Thanks Filzma :) I'm doing ok. The bleeding did not last long and was not very heavy - which concerns me a little, but I asked my doctor about it this morning and he said it's probably because of how low my hormone levels were. My HCG as of last Thursday was only 17 (significantly dropped from a few days before), so I'm guessing it was close to 0 when the bleeding started on Friday night. So weird. Anyways - I'm fine, ready to move on. I'm hoping AF returns in 3-4 weeks from now (it did last time) and then I will start Clomid again (doc confirmed he will give it to me again on the next cycle). Hoping for next attempt to be late January. I'm adding in more supplements/vitamins as advised by Atomic and hoping these two m/cs were both just bad luck. The doctor isn't too concerned at this point since I've had two healthy pregnancies in the past.

So I wont be in the TWW again until at the earliest late January but I'm excited to keep seeing all of you all get BFPs in the meantime :) :) :)

[Filzma]

ABC I’m glad to hear you’re doing ok and already preparing for next month. As you said 2 healthy pregnancies in the past probably mean this isn’t something to worry about. Wishing you well and sending my prayers your way[emoji177][emoji177]
Girlswaylondon fx!! Hopefully pbn3 sees your question. GL!!

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway look at mine. I hope i didnt miss again my egg and ovulation will be tomorrow38464

[Noemi2017]

I should dtd yesterday but it already happend...as u said maybe i have short LH and i have positive opk in ovulation day...

[Girlswaylondon]

Noemi that looks positive to me?!

[Noemi2017]

Yes very positive. I will see tomorrow morning if my temperature go up, it shows ovulation happend. Last time i missed my egg like that.

[Noemi2017]

Will u do attempt tomorrow or tonight?

[Girlswaylondon]

Hopefully you haven’t missed it! I think I will wait till tomorrow although I’m nervous about it! X

[Noemi2017]

Yess i wish and pray this month is the right one and we both become pregnant with our dream daughters:HH:

[Girlswaylondon]

You too, Noemi! We certainly are very similar both sons same age and ovulating same time lol! How old are you I’d you don’t mind me asking? You look similar age to me! (I’m 26)

[Noemi2017]

Ohh u r very young lady. Im already 37 but i feel like 20:p

[ABC.2606]

GL to both of you Noemi and Girlsway!! Hope you both catch the egg!!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

Noemi you look fantastic!!

Thank you abc xx

[Noemi2017]

Thx u:bighug::LotsofLove:

[Eighme]

Good luck and pink dust, Noemi and Girlsway! I’m in the same boat!


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[Eighme]

Eighme me too!! I remember I tested a week after AF was due when we were ttc DD. Lol what was I thinking? And now, it’s all I think about. Counting the hours to 8dpo. Also worried about how my hypothyroidism will affect a potential bfp this time round. It’s draining.[emoji30] OTOH, so glad I’m doing this as I’ve never been this in tune with my body. I even know the side I ovulated from. [emoji44]

Agreed! I didn’t know how much could actually go into this. It’s so interesting, but I almost feel more confident this time around because I KNOW when I should conceive and it’s not a surprise or me trying to remember and count the days since I wasn’t keeping track


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[Filzma]

Exactly! I can’t imagine getting pregnant without temping or opk from now. I don’t think it’ll be the same. [emoji5] we could probably calculate our edd to the hour... it’s amazing really!
Also, I don’t think I’d look at women buying pineapples the same. I’d probably wink and wish them all the best in their 2ww. [emoji6][emoji16]

[Eighme]

Exactly! I can’t imagine getting pregnant without temping or opk from now. I don’t think it’ll be the same. [emoji5] we could probably calculate our edd to the hour... it’s amazing really!
Also, I don’t think I’d look at women buying pineapples the same. I’d probably wink and wish them all the best in their 2ww. [emoji6][emoji16]

[emoji23] You go with you’re pineapples, lady, you go! I agree! I just never had any idea. I’m so grateful for this site and community! Ive learned so much and (even though I’m swaying pink) if I get boy out of this. I will definitely say I’ve taken away some amazing lessons!


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[Filzma]

Eighme Noemi and girlswaylondon, you can have all my pink dust 🧚🏼*♀️[emoji178][emoji166]

[Eighme]

Eighme Noemi and girlswaylondon, you can have all my pink dust 🧚🏼*♀️[emoji178][emoji166]

Thanks, Filzma! Sending you all my blue dust [emoji170]


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[Pbn3]

Noemi I would be extremely surprised if you o within 12 hours of pos opk caught right at the start of your peak surge. I will be stalking your chart this afternoon my time on any case and hope to see a normal temp for cd19. Then fx we see a temp spike in two mornings time [emoji3] (morning of cd20) which I honestly think will be the case giving you a 1-o attempt [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322]

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[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon I had a reply for you as well but it wouldn't post so I screenshot it so I wouldn't have to rewrite it all [emoji23]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171218/d4f4b00d56e395d2c96d9cbf7c3feba0.jpg

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[Filzma]

Eighme lol ikr!! I get what you mean. I really want a boy but I know I tried all I could to sway. If I get another girl, I’ll super content with that too. You’re absolutely right, learnt so much from this site! Atomics essays and super supportive women who constantly have answers and say the right things. S/o to pbn3!!!! Xx
I wish you all bfps. It might take a while or not but I pray eventually we get healthy happy babies.

[Eighme]

Eighme lol ikr!! I get what you mean. I really want a boy but I know I tried all I could to sway. If I get another girl, I’ll super content with that too. You’re absolutely right, learnt so much from this site! Atomics essays and super supportive women who constantly have answers and say the right things. S/o to pbn3!!!! Xx
I wish you all bfps. It might take a while or not but I pray eventually we get healthy happy babies.

Thanks so much! So happy to have you and all the other amazing women in this thread and on this site! And prayers for all the healthy babies because that’s what counts at the end of the day!


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[Pbn3]

Filzma cannot wait for you to start testing [emoji3] I think you should buy an frer to have for 10dpo [emoji6] 10dpo will be xmas eve right??!!! You have a fair chance of seeing a line then but also doesn't mean you're out if you dont so is thebest of both worlds in a way. Then you could skip testing xmas day (if there was no squinter) and just enjoy the day and continue testing with your IC's boxing day!!

Eighme what dpo will you be testing at?! Are you 2dpo today? Think your pos opk was 3 days ago from my fuzzy, distorted memory [emoji23]....

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[Girlswaylondon]

Girlswaylondon I had a reply for you as well but it wouldn't post so I screenshot it so I wouldn't have to rewrite it all [emoji23]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171218/d4f4b00d56e395d2c96d9cbf7c3feba0.jpg

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Perfect way of looking at it pbn, thank you :heart: I was tempted to do a morning bd but hubby wakes at 5.30 for work...no thanks LOL :D

[Eighme]

Filzma cannot wait for you to start testing [emoji3] I think you should buy an frer to have for 10dpo [emoji6] 10dpo will be xmas eve right??!!! You have a fair chance of seeing a line then but also doesn't mean you're out if you dont so is thebest of both worlds in a way. Then you could skip testing xmas day (if there was no squinter) and just enjoy the day and continue testing with your IC's boxing day!!

Eighme what dpo will you be testing at?! Are you 2dpo today? Think your pos opk was 3 days ago from my fuzzy, distorted memory [emoji23]....

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I’m 2 dpo as of today! You’re good! Not a fuzzy memory at all! What day do you think I should test at?


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[Filzma]

Pbn3 I have the one that tells you how many weeks you are plus the other one that came with the digis. As well as the 10 ICs that came with my thermometer. We have family coming over on 22nd to 26th.... I’ll be too busy...




poas 🤫🤭[emoji15]

[Pbn3]

Abc I'll be sure to pop in when I can in January to follow you and see you get your sticky bfp [emoji304] It will happen [emoji173] Fwiw after my third loss and no bfp in the 3 cycles I tried for after I had stopped taking everything when I conceived this bub from one random (drunken [emoji87]) unprotected bd in no way related to ttc, didn't even know what cd I was on... I fully expected to mc again as I'd gone back to drinking wine when I wanted (being around easter I also drank way more than usual) and was back to drinking 2-3 coffees a morning (had previously been taking it light and having mostly decaf), no prenatals etc. When this bean did stick it really helped me realise that I pretty much just had a run of very bad luck and nothing I did or didn't do could have changed that outcome. Prior to this realisation I was always wondering what of I'd tried this or that, would that have helped, maybe they didn't run enough tests [emoji848] but again I believe it simply came down to the right egg meeting the right sperm at the right time and that's that. I have every faith that your next bfp will be your rainbow and by this time next year you'll be enjoying sleep deprived newborn - 3 month old snuggles [emoji173]

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[Pbn3]

Perfect way of looking at it pbn, thank you [emoji813] I was tempted to do a morning bd but hubby wakes at 5.30 for work...no thanks LOL :D[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] yep I'd be the same!!!

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[Pbn3]

I’m 2 dpo as of today! You’re good! Not a fuzzy memory at all! What day do you think I should test at?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWoohoo! I'm not completely brain dead then [emoji23] Depends what hpts you plan on using? If a sensitive test like frers you could start at 9dpo (although that is really early) 10dpo onwards if you want to wait and may save you a test [emoji6] Wondfos/OSOM I'd do the same. Cb digi I'd wait until 12dpo (simply because they are so expensive) IC's I'd wait until 11/12dpo as they likely have a lower sensitivity of closer to 50mIU (for comparison frers have picked up as low as 6.5mIU and even though test sensitivity varies they should consistently pick up at least 12mIU)

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[Pbn3]

Pbn3 I have the one that tells you how many weeks you are plus the other one that came with the digis. As well as the 10 ICs that came with my thermometer. We have family coming over on 22nd to 26th.... I’ll be too busy...




poas 🤫🤭[emoji15]Save your digi then and use when the family leave maybe? That will make you 13dpo the morning of the 27th? I'd go nuts if you hold off till then and use one of each three tests [emoji23][emoji23] But this is coming from a former poas addict and I would've probably run out of all tests completely by the 24th [emoji23][emoji23]

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[Eighme]

Woohoo! I'm not completely brain dead then [emoji23] Depends what hpts you plan on using? If a sensitive test like frers you could start at 9dpo (although that is really early) 10dpo onwards if you want to wait and may save you a test [emoji6] Wondfos/OSOM I'd do the same. Cb digi I'd wait until 12dpo (simply because they are so expensive) IC's I'd wait until 11/12dpo as they likely have a lower sensitivity of closer to 50mIU (for comparison frers have picked up as low as 6.5mIU and even though test sensitivity varies they should consistently pick up at least 12mIU)

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Thank you! I need to get some tests ordered for sure!


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[Noemi2017]

Thx u Eighme, i wish u also good luck:hug2: we had attempt now it isin God hands:pray:

[Filzma]

Lol pbn3 I think I’ll go stock up on some digis. Worth it!
Only cycle 1 and I can tell I’m going to be a poas nightmare [emoji19]

[Noemi2017]

Thx u Flizma, i take pink dust from u and give u my blue dust:flowerz:

[Noemi2017]

Pbn3 im really curious about this month, yesss stalk my chart and we will see when my temperature spike, i hope cd20 as u said so my attempt tonight will be 1-0?

[Pbn3]

Yes Noemi if we see a spike morning of cd20 then your attempt will be 1-o [emoji3][emoji322]

Filzma did you mean stock up on frers [emoji6]? Stocking up on digis would be an expensive exercise [emoji21] We can get 7pk frers here in Aus which is awesome but also terrible as you tend to go nuts when you have that many 'spares' [emoji23]

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[Pbn3]

Hannah I second what Abc said. Check with your doc.

So did you have an attempt in this cycle? Sorry I'm not familiar where you are at? Do you have a chart you can share?

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[Pbn3]

Somewhere between cycle day 10&12. Thinking this is going to be a little longer cycle. My body is adjusting to getting Mirena out on 12/6.

I have a feeling that I might have been pregnant in October since I had a 35 day cycle and that's way out of character even with mirena in. I was in that small percentage that still ovulated and had periods.

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkSo any day now [emoji3][emoji3]!! Are you doing an e4d pattern (eg cd6, 10, 14) or will you be dtd next at pos opk?

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[ABC.2606]

Abc I'll be sure to pop in when I can in January to follow you and see you get your sticky bfp [emoji304] It will happen [emoji173] Fwiw after my third loss and no bfp in the 3 cycles I tried for after I had stopped taking everything when I conceived this bub from one random (drunken [emoji87]) unprotected bd in no way related to ttc, didn't even know what cd I was on... I fully expected to mc again as I'd gone back to drinking wine when I wanted (being around easter I also drank way more than usual) and was back to drinking 2-3 coffees a morning (had previously been taking it light and having mostly decaf), no prenatals etc. When this bean did stick it really helped me realise that I pretty much just had a run of very bad luck and nothing I did or didn't do could have changed that outcome. Prior to this realisation I was always wondering what of I'd tried this or that, would that have helped, maybe they didn't run enough tests [emoji848] but again I believe it simply came down to the right egg meeting the right sperm at the right time and that's that. I have every faith that your next bfp will be your rainbow and by this time next year you'll be enjoying sleep deprived newborn - 3 month old snuggles [emoji173]

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Thank you Pbn. As always I appreciate all of your encouragement and support :) And I hope I'll get my BFP in January but you will definitely be a little bit busier by then!!!!!! :) :) :) :) Can't wait to hear that your precious new baby is here!!!

I have been in a better mindset the past few days - I do really think that it was bad luck both times and hopefully the 3rd time's the charm :) I do worry a bit about some of the changes I've made w/ swaying, but I know in my head that they most likely were not the cause of either m/c. So we'll see what the future holds :) I was really happy that my doc today said he'll allow me to do Clomid again next month - besides just swaying I do think it was helping me with my cycles (better O, more progesterone after O). So I'm anxious now for my next period to arrive (in like several weeks from now lol!)

[HGmama]

So any day now [emoji3][emoji3]!! Are you doing an e4d pattern (eg cd6, 10, 14) or will you be dtd next at pos opk?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkE4d. We didn't end up having a fun dance last night. Too tired after my 13 hours at work. I feel more comfortable with adding an extra attempt at opk after a few months. Today may end up being my o-2 attempt. I guess we'll see since I'm irregular. I don't think FF has estimated correctly based on pre mirena cycles. I think I'll o on Thursday or Friday. Doing twice days tests.

Question though: is temp spike the day of ovulation or after?

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[Pbn3]

Your temp will generally rise the day o takes place. So if you ovulate cd12 then you'd expect a spike/rise the morning of cd13 :)

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[hannahptrussell]

Hannah I second what Abc said. Check with your doc.

So did you have an attempt in this cycle? Sorry I'm not familiar where you are at? Do you have a chart you can share?

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No chart. This will be our 3rd attempt after an early miscarriage and then an immediate chemical following. My personality doesn’t tend to lean too well for charting. Lots of forgotten temps and crazy anxiety. I have been using OPKs to try and grab my peak just because of the back to back miscarriages. I know cycles can get a little crazy for me after miscarriages.
Thanks so much! I’ve used the prometrium in both ways and it’s the exact same dosage and pill so I know it could be used either way. I may just make a decision and stick with it.


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[Pbn3]

Hannah are you swaying pink or blue? An e3d (eg cd8, cd11, cd14 etc) or an e4d (eg cd8, cd12, cd16 etc) may be an option to try and would eliminate the need for opks as well. Much more relaxed approach for your type of personality maybe?

I'm sorry for your losses (hugs) and hope you conceive your sticky bean really soon xxoo

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[ABC.2606]

Hannah - Are you starting prometrium immediately after O? I'm planning to ask my doc if he thinks I should do that from now on (I didn't start it this time until after BFP/first set of betas). I think I want to do it starting after O. I didn't find it to be a problem using it vaginally EXCEPT that when a little inevitably leaks out, b/c of the pinkish/orange color, I have to double check to make sure it's not blood!!! I complained to my doctor the other day about why on Earth they decided to make the pills that color!!!!!

I don't do well with charting temps either - it stresses me out. I use digital OPKs and have always gotten a + with those so I *think* next cycle we ttc I will not be temping again. I don't think it's worth the extra anxiety it causes me.

[Noemi2017]

Pbn3 helppp my temperature spike this morning as i thought, i was again late for my attempt yesterday night? I had ovulation in day of positive opk so opk is not helping me. Look pls at at my chart
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/5eaa0f

[Girlswaylondon]

My temp has risen too! Does that mesn I missed my chance?! :(

[Noemi2017]

Really girlsway? We are like twins:) i really hope we are not late but do attempt as soon as possible.

[Girlswaylondon]

My opk wasn’t fully positive so I’m really hoping it’s not true! :(

[Filzma]

Noemi I’m obviously far from an expert, but I do note that the temp hasn’t spiked above 36.0 which seems to be the ‘threshold point’. I wouldn’t be worried. When you ovulate your temps usually rise above that point. But I think just wait for pbn3s input especially on attempts.

Girlswaylondon could you post a snap shot of your ff pls?

[Noemi2017]

Hello Flizma thx for answer. Didnt u mean above 37.00? After my ovulation my temperature rise slowly in next 3 days.

[Pbn3]

Noemi and girlswaylondon neither of your temps have spiked in a way that would indicate o has taken place to me. I think wait and see how tomorrow mornings temps look. Noemi your post o temps were consistently higher than 36.60 last cycle so I would assume tomorrows will be above that indicating o has happened today or within the 24 hours prior to temping tomorrow in any case. There's always the chance you oed not long before temping and caught your temp rising on its way up? In which case your attempt is still technically a 1-o even though it will show as a day of o. Girlswaylondon yours also doesn't scream o has happened either plus its an open circle so does that mean you temped later than usual? If so this could explain a .2 degree jump. I think you'll find your post o temps are much more obvious. How long is it until you do an opk?

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[Pbn3]

Noemi everyones coverline is different. There's no magic temperature baseline to saysay you've oed. You have your own individual temp range that becomes apparent the more you temp. Can you perhaps screenshot some previous charts from this time last year (Nov 16 - Jan 17) for comparison?

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[Girlswaylondon]

Thanks pbn, It might have been slightly later now that I think about it and also the heating was on, do you think that effect it? Past few temps I’ve taken the house has been freezing first thing in the morning before the heat comes on! It’s zero degrees here in London!

I’m having watery cm so hoping my pos opk is today will keep you posted!

[Girlswaylondon]

Will temp vaginally next month!!

[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon yes having heating on when you usually don't can definately affect your temp much the way air con can lower it.

Noemi the reason I asked for charts from this time last year is that your temp range will change with the seasons. So your bbt will naturally be lower during colder months and higher during warmer months :)



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[Babybeaublue]

Girlsway &noemi you two are so spookily similar in your cycles lol pink dust to you both!!

Good luck filzma cant wait for you to test!

ABC I hope yo see you with that bfp soon and a sticky little rainbow bean xxx I'm always watching.. (not in a creepy way tho!)

Girlswayhgmama and Hannah good luck to you both x

Mwilson waiting to hear from you too :)

Mummy how are you? Fx this cycle

Pbn can't wait to see your little baby really soon!!!! :cheerteam:

[Girlswaylondon]

Thank god for you, pbn! :)

[Girlswaylondon]

BB I know it’s so strange lol! Giving you all my blue dust :D

[Filzma]

Aww thank you BBB hope everything’s going well for you!
Noemi glad pbn3 came to the rescue, this is my first month temping. Still more qs than answers. [emoji4]

[Pbn3]

BBB how are you??!!! So nice to hear from you [emoji3]

I'm hoping so much you all get your bfps this cycle so when I leave there's no one left behind!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

Pbn don’t leave!! :(

It’s 10am here and right on schedule my pos opk!
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[Pbn3]

Woohoo!!! Go for it girlswaylondon!!! Do you also test after lunch? I'm not a fan of early opk testing (prior to 11am) but that's a convincing test line and should be the same for a 1pm test!! I'll be asleep by then but please post a pic so I can check it out in the morning [emoji3]

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[Girlswaylondon]

I usually test again later in the day yes! Always positive :) I peed at 7am didn’t have any fluids and then tested at 10am, the colour of my urine is so concentrated haha!

[Noemi2017]

Thx to all girls here and special thx to Pbn3 for help (how can i make it so u can see all my charts?) My cm changed from eggwhite to creamy and my opk is again positive. I guess i already ovulated. I hope :pinksperm:catched the egg:pray:38473

[HGmama]

Alright ladies--- I guess the stress and tiredness got to my hubs. So our attempt didn't work. We tried for 20 mins so there might have been a few swimmers. I was planning on ed4 this cycle. Ugh! I was trying to not get super involved with one attempt suggestions because I was trying to not stress him out.[emoji52] Now what? Do we try again tonight and then again Friday to get back on schedule? Just wait until Friday? I'm only getting my baseline LH on my opks. Nothing darker yet.

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[Pbn3]

Noemi an opk cant tell you you've oed, only that your lh surge has peaked and has/is passing. I think your opk from yesterday was peak (pos) and this one is actually a tad lighter. Sounds like you may have oed today but we'll know more by tomorrow mornings temp [emoji3] cant wait!

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[Pbn3]

GirlswayHGmama I would definately try for another attempt tonight and continue with e4d from it especially as you mentioned oing by cd12 as your norm. I wouldn't count last night as an attempt seeing as dh didn't release. All the best for todays attempt!

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[Pbn3]

Just reread that your opks are a ways off pos.... are you planning on adding an attempt at pos opk or just seeing when it comes?

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[Noemi2017]

Yesss im curious about my temperature tomorrow. Mostly it is rising slowly. Can u send me some invitation to FF so i can add u and u can all my charts?

[Noemi2017]

Yes stress is not good:( try to prepare something relaxing for the evening and :fingers:for other attempt:)

[Pbn3]

Yesss im curious about my temperature tomorrow. Mostly it is rising slowly. Can u send me some invitation to FF so i can add u and u can all my charts?I'm not sure I even remember my login details for ff [emoji50] I'll check it out tomorrow though and see what we can do :)

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[HGmama]

Just reread that your opks are a ways off pos.... are you planning on adding an attempt at pos opk or just seeing when it comes?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkI was planning ed4 with no extra attempt this month. I got pregnant fairly easily last time so I have room for more time. But Who knows now I'm all little confused with my strange cycles. I was on birth control for a total of 14 years because of my short cycles and I was 12 bleeding too much.When I was off of birth control trying to conceive my son I had 23 24 and 25 day cycles. My ovia app has me predicted to ovulate on Friday

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[Girlswaylondon]

Pbn when you said about the pre lunch tine opks do you mesn that could be a false positive?

[Pbn3]

I was planning ed4 with no extra attempt this month. I got pregnant fairly easily last time so I have room for more time. But Who knows now I'm all little confused with my strange cycles. I was on birth control for a total of 14 years because of my short cycles and I was 12 bleeding too much.When I was off of birth control trying to conceive my son I had 23 24 and 25 day cycles. My ovia app has me predicted to ovulate on Friday

Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkIf that was your plan then I'd stick to it but last night definately isn't an attempt. I'd try again today and resume your e4d by bding Saturday (or Friday) to get back into pattern :)

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[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon yes. Usually its fmu that *may* give a false pos but I've also heard of even smu and tmu doing the same. Unless your opks specifically say they can be used at any time of day (I personally don't know of any dip tests that do) then usually the 1-3pm is the best time frame to test in.

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[Pbn3]

I'm off to sleep now lovely ladies [emoji42][emoji42] talk to you in the morning [emoji16]

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[Girlswaylondon]

I had no idea that could happen! Will test later around 3/4pm and update you! :)

[sunstars]

Hi dear ladies,
I will be closely following you all in this thread for another month, since it's cd1 for me as well. This is the only good thing in ttc-ing - being able to follow your stories and share mine from time to time. Thank you all and good luck!

[Babybeaublue]

Good luck sunstars:)

[Filzma]

Thank you sunstars, all the best to you too!

[Girlswaylondon]

I’m confused, I tested with fmu (7am) just out of curiousity and it was negative, tested with smu (10am) and got my blazing positive, tested again at 3pm, noted that my urine was noticeably more diluted that fmu and smu and got this...

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I can’t tell if it’s pos or not because my earlier pos was so dark! I’m confused cab diluted urine cause a false neg? If my smu positive was false wouldn’t my fmu had been pos too??

[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon that still looks pos to me. I'll come back later this morning as I'm going to try get back to sleep but definately have your attempt today/tonight.

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[Girlswaylondon]

I think seeing the darker one earlier I’m not fully realising that’s positive too!

We just had our attempt :) thanks for much for replying I feel better now!

[Georgia_Peach]

Ok so it's been like a year since I had to use opks... and even when I did if always spend like $60 on the good quality digital opks. I'm having a hard time reading these cheapies.

Today is cd10. First day testing. This is early afternoon urine.

Is this positive? (One pic is it dried the other after 3 min)

I had some spotting today too and I never get that this far into my cycle I am so confused and think my body doesn't know what to do with out artificial drugs like Clomid and fsh [emoji23]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/6a3f77a365371ccfada2e2c62bbc98a0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171219/8f985dd1c8f5e9ccd9bcc3e5093349ab.jpg

[Girlswaylondon]

Not positive but close!!

[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon just out of curiosity can you do another opk tonight about 9pm. Just try and hold from 7pm'ish and limit fluids to sipping during the hold time. Your 10am test is very likely accurate and the fact your urine was more diluted at 3pm accounts for the still positive but not blazing pos opk. You can be sure that is your pos opk no doubt. The reason behind the not testing prior to 11am is simply because lh *can* build up in your body overnight and cause a false pos but by 11am you've urinated all your overnight store of urine as such. It doesn't happen with everyone (obviously not yourself if it was negative with fmu) but it does happen enough that they issue a blanket warning about not testing prior to 11am. The fact you have a pos afternoon opk in the afternoon with noticably more diluted urine really cements that this is your peak surge. By doing another tonight after a decent hold and limiting fluids it may be a another blazing pos OR it could already be negative. If it is negative it does not mean you've oed, an opk cannot tell you that, it simply means your peak surge has come and gone and you should ovulate somewhere from 12-48 after pos opk (usually sometime the day after)

Yay for getting your attempt in [emoji3] now kick back and relax and let the magic happen of sperm meets egg happen [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322] cant wait to watch your temps! Here's hoping for a spike in two mornings time [emoji3]

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[Pbn3]

Hi Robin [emoji3] no not positive but may darken to a pos within a couple days? Be aware though that it may actually get lighter first instead before coming back into a positive in several days time being your on cd10. Are you holding and limiting fluids in the couple hours prior?

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[Pbn3]

Also regarding the spotting, I began getting that up to about cd10 as well after af finished cd5. It would generally happen when my fertile cm (watery) would start coming in (between cd8 and 10). This only started after my losses, prior to them I never experienced spotting at all at any time..... my ob was never concerned about it [emoji4]

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[Georgia_Peach]

Hi Robin [emoji3] no not positive but may darken to a pos within a couple days? Be aware though that it may actually get lighter first instead before coming back into a positive in several days time being your on cd10. Are you holding and limiting fluids in the couple hours prior?

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkNo. In the morning I drink coffee so no holding and fluids.
I have major symptoms this month. My boobs are killing me and I have lots of ovary pains. I can tell I am close to ovulation. Shocked it's so early being my first month without meds

[Pbn3]

Oh and I've got buckleys of getting back to sleep [emoji30] thank god for that one decent sleep night before last, I think I'll be living off that memory for awhile......

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[Pbn3]

Its perfectly fine to have coffee/fluids in the morning [emoji3] Just try and restrict them to sipping only to wet the mouth when needed from 11am and hold from then as well to between 1-2pm for your test.

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[Pbn3]

Hopefully you are close to o then!! Try and do the hold and fluid limiting for your next couple days tests [emoji3]

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[Girlswaylondon]

I’ll do another one at 9pm pbn! Thanks so much for that detailed reply, really helps me understand :) I’m really sure today was positive opk I’m starting to feel the ovulation bloat I get every month (maybe pcos related?)

Will update you with my 9pm stick! X

[Girlswaylondon]

Pbn the test was a lot lighter (my urine still looked quite diluted) but maybe just means my surge is over?