January 2018 TTC & 2ww thread

[Mommy2apples]

Pbn had her baby! Will let her announce gender! Right now she is spending time with her little one!


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[Filzma]

Aaah that’s such good news!!!! I’m so happy for her. Can’t wait to find out boy/girl but super happy for her.
Pbn3 congrats sweetheart. Take your time to enjoy baby and wish you quick recovery [emoji177][emoji177]

[Pbn3]

Hi ladies!!! So my waters broke at 5am this morning and bub was born exactly 24 hours before scheduled csection [emoji23]

I will update more in the next couple days [emoji173] Thank you everyone for your well wishes! Mwah [emoji8]!!!!

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[Pbn3]

Oh forgot to add it's a GIRL!!! [emoji23][emoji178][emoji179]

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[Eighme]

Oh forgot to add it's a GIRL!!! [emoji23][emoji178][emoji179]

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[Georgia_Peach]

Oh forgot to add it's a GIRL!!! [emoji23][emoji178][emoji179]

Sent from my SM-G900I using TapatalkAwe omg congrats! Enjoy that little bub!!

[Georgia_Peach]

Are we going to be cycle buddies? Full blown CD 1 for me....

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[HGmama]

Oh forgot to add it's a GIRL!!! [emoji23][emoji178][emoji179]

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[ABC.2606]

Oh Pbn, I'm in tears! SO SO SO happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats to you and your family - enjoy that wonderful bundle of PINK!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sunstars]

Oh, what a great news!!! Congratulation, Pbn!!! All the best to you and you baby girl!!! Sooo happy for you!

[Filzma]

Oh forgot to add it's a GIRL!!! [emoji23][emoji178][emoji179]

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So extremely delighted for you!! Oh wow. A girl! I can only imagine how you and the family feel. Congrats a thousand fold. [emoji322][emoji322][emoji322][emoji177][emoji177][emoji177]

[Girlswaylondon]

Omg pbn!!! Biggest congratulations in the world!! I’m sooo happy for you enjoy every minute! Xxx

[Noemi2017]

Pbn3 so happy for u:hug2:i have tears in my eyes. U deserve your girl:XX:enjoy every minute and recover soon:HH:

[Pbn3]

Thank you so much ladies!!!! I'm feeling so blessed [emoji178] I still can't believe my baby is here (and a girl!) Loving my cuddles with her [emoji173][emoji173][emoji173][emoji173][emoji173]

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[Babybeaublue]

Pbn that's Awesome!!! Congrats to you and your Family!!enjoy her and get some rest xxx

[ABC.2606]

CD1 today for me!!! Wahoo - I'm back in the game, ladies!!!! Got a call into my doctor and my pharmacy about my Clomid prescription. I was hoping I would start tomorrow as if we got pregnant this cycle, my due date would be on my birthday! That's ok - at least a new cycle has started!

I got a letter in the mail yesterday from my step-grandma - who found out about my miscarriages through my stepmom who blabbered to multiple family members about it. She told me in the letter that because I had complications after my 2nd son's birth (which my current OBGYN is fully aware of and feels confident that he will be able to manage/prevent this time around), I'm risking death by trying for a third and that my miscarriages are my body telling me I can't have another baby and that I should stop. Seriously? I was so angry I did over an hour at the gym last night at a higher intensity than I normally do to try to burn off my anger. How about people not tell you how to manage your own life or make your own decisions, am I right? She didn't even have her facts straight about my whole situation. Ugh. Oh well - my night was made happier by Pbn's news & today is happy because AF is here! (Crazy that ttc-ing can make you excited to see AF when you're waiting to try again haha!!)

[mwilson]

CD1 today for me!!! Wahoo - I'm back in the game, ladies!!!! Got a call into my doctor and my pharmacy about my Clomid prescription. I was hoping I would start tomorrow as if we got pregnant this cycle, my due date would be on my birthday! That's ok - at least a new cycle has started!

I got a letter in the mail yesterday from my step-grandma - who found out about my miscarriages through my stepmom who blabbered to multiple family members about it. She told me in the letter that because I had complications after my 2nd son's birth (which my current OBGYN is fully aware of and feels confident that he will be able to manage/prevent this time around), I'm risking death by trying for a third and that my miscarriages are my body telling me I can't have another baby and that I should stop. Seriously? I was so angry I did over an hour at the gym last night at a higher intensity than I normally do to try to burn off my anger. How about people not tell you how to manage your own life or make your own decisions, am I right? She didn't even have her facts straight about my whole situation. Ugh. Oh well - my night was made happier by Pbn's news & today is happy because AF is here! (Crazy that ttc-ing can make you excited to see AF when you're waiting to try again haha!!)

I have another 2 days before cd 1, im ready for it though. It will be our last cycle trying for about 4-5 months so hoping its a positive one. I'm afraid I won't want to try again after the pause.

[Mommy2apples]

Sorry abc! Just put it in the lords hands that’s what I did and you are going to get your rainbow sweetie! ❤️


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[mummy2boys]

Aagh pbn!! That's amazing news, massive congratulations! And a girl too! Absolutely perfect, I'm so happy for you.
Hope this cycle is the one abc! Don't worry about what other people think, you know what's best for you and your family and no one else.
Mwilson have you tested? Are you spotting or anything? Maybe you're still in?
Here is my test from today [emoji106]
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[ABC.2606]

I have another 2 days before cd 1, im ready for it though. It will be our last cycle trying for about 4-5 months so hoping its a positive one. I'm afraid I won't want to try again after the pause.FX for both of us this cycle and all the ladies on this board! Hope there will be lots of bfps!!!!

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks Mommy and Mummy. I still believe we can have a healthy baby. I just can't believe the audacity of someone to tell you that they know what's best for you, when she doesn't even have a medical background. She has 4 children, never had a m/c (she told me that), so it's interesting she can tell when my family is complete or why I've had m/cs. As you can tell I'm still a little worked up :) Trying to let it go and hopefully I can soon as I have other things to think about :)

Mummy ahhhhhh love those words!!!!!!!!! SOOOOO happy for you!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

Abc I find the older generation (including my DHs grandma) give unwanted and terrible opinions lol

She told me, more like lectured me my son didn’t need antibiotics for for his bacterial tonsillitis he needed ice cream...(was in hospital with extremely high fever that wouldn’t come down.) I now just smile and nod at whatever crap she says :D

[Mommy2apples]

Love seeing those words mummy!!


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[ABC.2606]

Girlsway haha WOW about the ice cream!! That's certainly interesting advice!! I know - my stepgrandma is old and I shouldn't take her letter personally it just felt so personally invasive and insensitive - especially less than 4 weeks after my m/c. Sigh - oh well! I've gotten 2 good workouts in the past two days to deal w/ my frustration about it so at least that's good for my girl sway :)

[mwilson]

Aagh pbn!! That's amazing news, massive congratulations! And a girl too! Absolutely perfect, I'm so happy for you.
Hope this cycle is the one abc! Don't worry about what other people think, you know what's best for you and your family and no one else.
Mwilson have you tested? Are you spotting or anything? Maybe you're still in?
Here is my test from today [emoji106]
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That is an awesome picture! No spotting today but still negative test. Today was the last test I'll take until after af. 2 days left, but assuming out since by now I should have a positive.

[Girlswaylondon]

ABC I’m shocked anyone would ever say a thing like that regardless of age! Ridiculous!!

[mummy2boys]

mwilson, you're not out yet :) could the spotting have been implantation? Was it a sensitive test?


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[Eighme]

Aagh pbn!! That's amazing news, massive congratulations! And a girl too! Absolutely perfect, I'm so happy for you.
Hope this cycle is the one abc! Don't worry about what other people think, you know what's best for you and your family and no one else.
Mwilson have you tested? Are you spotting or anything? Maybe you're still in?
Here is my test from today [emoji106]
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[mwilson]

mwilson, you're not out yet :) could the spotting have been implantation? Was it a sensitive test?


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I would have implanted on the later end if it was. It was just a cheapie, not sure of sensitivity.

[sunstars]

Congratulations, Mummy! Have a smooth and happy pregnancy!

[Filzma]

Mummy2boys so happy for you! Blowing pink dust your way [emoji178][emoji178]

[HGmama]

Mummy- Congrats!! Have you set up an appt?

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[mwilson]

Hello cd 1. One more try before we take a break.

[Girlswaylondon]

Hello cd 1. One more try before we take a break.

How many months have you been ttc mwilson? I’ve been trying 4 Months and fed up already!

[HGmama]

Looks like a lot of us will be doing OPKs at the same time!

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[Georgia_Peach]

How many months have you been ttc mwilson? I’ve been trying 4 Months and fed up already!Just to chime in here.. we tried TTC our last daughter for 7 months before getting pregnant. Then miscarried at 20 weeks in June. We've been TTC ever since. That's 6 months. I've moved onto ivf now but I just wanted to say .. this whole TTC a girl thing takes a while for Sure! It can be so frustrating.
Hopefully this is your month!

[Star4012]

Mummy, so happy for you girl!! Praying for a healthy 9 months!! And that you get your girl!

Update on me: still waiting to O... My temps are still unusually high pre O temps. I took a hpt test yesterday morning just to make sure my 3 day light period was in fact, AF. It was negative... just trying to make sense of these temps. [emoji848] I'm using OPKs twice daily... wondfos are still very light, and Clearblue advanced have been blinking the smiley face for 4 and a half days.

During my first round of Clomid last month, I had a ton of side effects and this time I took Clomid earlier in my cycle and haven't had many side effects at all. I've had just slight cramping maybe the past day or so. Hoping O day comes this cycle! I've been staying on the E4D schedule.

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[mwilson]

How many months have you been ttc mwilson? I’ve been trying 4 Months and fed up already!


First try was August and we did get pregnant but lost at 5.5 weeks. So this being cd 1 of our 7th cycle trying. Our son is November and our daughter is February so we want to avoid winter months and the holidays.

[Noemi2017]

Im just cd8 and already have signs of ovulation (normally cd20), now im sure i had chemical last month, my cycle is strange:worry:

[Eighme]

Im just cd8 and already have signs of ovulation (normally cd20), now im sure i had chemical last month, my cycle is strange:worry:I'm CD 12 and my ovulation test this morning was just about positive. I'm guessing I'll ovulate tomorrow or this evening.

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[Girlswaylondon]

I’ve scrapped opks just doing e4d now, don’t need the stress of guessing!

[Filzma]

I’m on cd15 opks getting darker and not sure when I’ll o. Hopefully in the next few days... wait n see game.

[Eighme]

I’ve scrapped opks just doing e4d now, don’t need the stress of guessing!This is my last month for OPK and then we are going to do E4D if no success this month. It's too time consuming (for me) and I can't keep track of charting as I hoped. So I'm hoping I get it this month.

This diet (while has been overall great for me health) gets old after so many months.

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[Eighme]

I’m on cd15 opks getting darker and not sure when I’ll o. Hopefully in the next few days... wait n see game.Same boat!

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[mwilson]

Yes my diet is not like it was to begin. Been a few sleeks since I’ve worked out, I still do coffee and skip breakfast. I try to avoid meat but still eat a few times a week. So we will see what plays out.

[Eighme]

Yes my diet is not like it was to begin. Been a few sleeks since I’ve worked out, I still do coffee and skip breakfast. I try to avoid meat but still eat a few times a week. So we will see what plays out.Agreed. I slid a little during the holidays, then had illness that set me back. But still tons of coffee, no breakfast, I gave up working out because my son just didn't do well in the daycare and it's too cold to run outside, I mostly avoid meat but have had it when at a friend's house or had family over.

It gets hard to be as strict as time goes on

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[ABC.2606]

I've gotten less strict too :( :( Had some definitely not good days over the holidays and the no snacking thing has become harder. I've been swaying almost 10 months now (with a few weeks off after each of my two BFPs) and I just can't stay as strict anymore. Plus I've lost over 50 lbs and can't lose a whole lot more. Although I don't feel too terrible about it... I feel like the cheats over the past month are probably not enough to undo the prior 9 months of hard work, I know my blood sugar levels have improved a lot b/c it's become easier for me to lose weight now than it was before, and b/c I know I've depleted myself so much nutrient-wise & I've had two miscarriages, I kinda feel like maybe my body needs a bit more right now to get and stay pregnant. Ugh - we'll see though.... Still doing coffee, alcohol, exercise (though not quite as much), and Clomid. This whole process has definitely taken so much longer than I thought it would.

BUT - I've also seen Atomic say on here more than once that she's seen the more relaxed sways sometimes be more successful than the super strict ones... maybe because those relaxed swayers aren't being all sway-obsessed (which sways boy!). So maybe our being more relaxed will actually help us all out in the end. And I know Pbn had basically stopped swaying completely when she got pregnant with her new baby girl!! So there is always hope!!

[ABC.2606]

Mummy, so happy for you girl!! Praying for a healthy 9 months!! And that you get your girl!

Update on me: still waiting to O... My temps are still unusually high pre O temps. I took a hpt test yesterday morning just to make sure my 3 day light period was in fact, AF. It was negative... just trying to make sense of these temps. [emoji848] I'm using OPKs twice daily... wondfos are still very light, and Clearblue advanced have been blinking the smiley face for 4 and a half days.

During my first round of Clomid last month, I had a ton of side effects and this time I took Clomid earlier in my cycle and haven't had many side effects at all. I've had just slight cramping maybe the past day or so. Hoping O day comes this cycle! I've been staying on the E4D schedule.

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Star that's odd that with your CM pattern and the 4 days of flashing smileys you haven't gotten a +OPK yet. Hoping you get a solid smiley tomorrow!! Are you still having CM?

[Star4012]

Star that's odd that with your CM pattern and the 4 days of flashing smileys you haven't gotten a +OPK yet. Hoping you get a solid smiley tomorrow!! Are you still having CM?Urgh, I know! I'm so confused with what's going on... I tried to Google if high pre O BBT is a side effect of any of the new stuff I introduced this cycle-- metformin and pregnitude. And nothing came up. All that I was seeing online were hypothyroidism associated with higher temps. I've never had this issue before! Never even had my thyroid checked bc I never had any reason to. I'm going on day 6 of flashing smileys and my FF app is giving me weird interpretations based on my past cycles in comparison to this one.

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[Filzma]

Agreed. I slid a little during the holidays, then had illness that set me back. But still tons of coffee, no breakfast, I gave up working out because my son just didn't do well in the daycare and it's too cold to run outside, I mostly avoid meat but have had it when at a friend's house or had family over.

It gets hard to be as strict as time goes on

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Eighme sorry about DS not doing well at daycare, what happened? I’m thinking of taking DD to daycare in a couple months and already anxious about it. She’s so clingy! Leaving her for couple secs and it’s a whole fiasco.🤪 Don’t know how I’ll cope.

[Star4012]

Star that's odd that with your CM pattern and the 4 days of flashing smileys you haven't gotten a +OPK yet. Hoping you get a solid smiley tomorrow!! Are you still having CM?And yes... CM was more watery yesterday with some EW consistency. My doc told me that I should O 5 to 10 days after my last pill-- last day would be CD17 and I'm on CD15. Temp this morning was 98.82, still very very high than what it normally is

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[Eighme]

Eighme sorry about DS not doing well at daycare, what happened? I’m thinking of taking DD to daycare in a couple months and already anxious about it. She’s so clingy! Leaving her for couple secs and it’s a whole fiasco.🤪 Don’t know how I’ll cope.They had suckers at the front desk and he was allowed to have one, once, in daycare (They typically don't allow it) and that seems to be the straw the broke the camels back. He screamed and cried every time I dropped him off and often had to come get me [emoji58].

So that was the end of that until I am mentally prepared to try again.

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[Eighme]

I've gotten less strict too :( :( Had some definitely not good days over the holidays and the no snacking thing has become harder. I've been swaying almost 10 months now (with a few weeks off after each of my two BFPs) and I just can't stay as strict anymore. Plus I've lost over 50 lbs and can't lose a whole lot more. Although I don't feel too terrible about it... I feel like the cheats over the past month are probably not enough to undo the prior 9 months of hard work, I know my blood sugar levels have improved a lot b/c it's become easier for me to lose weight now than it was before, and b/c I know I've depleted myself so much nutrient-wise & I've had two miscarriages, I kinda feel like maybe my body needs a bit more right now to get and stay pregnant. Ugh - we'll see though.... Still doing coffee, alcohol, exercise (though not quite as much), and Clomid. This whole process has definitely taken so much longer than I thought it would.

BUT - I've also seen Atomic say on here more than once that she's seen the more relaxed sways sometimes be more successful than the super strict ones... maybe because those relaxed swayers aren't being all sway-obsessed (which sways boy!). So maybe our being more relaxed will actually help us all out in the end. And I know Pbn had basically stopped swaying completely when she got pregnant with her new baby girl!! So there is always hope!!I think you're absolutely right. I've been on if since October so I need to be a little more strict, but I stopped obsessing because it wasn't doing anyone any good with me fretting over everything.

I've lost 7 pounds and am working on losing at least five more! I can say, I've definitely gotten used to not snacking so that's nice!

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[Filzma]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Eighme that’s one strong willed lad you have there. Has to have what he wants. Hopefully all goes well trying to get him back. In the meantime I’ll brace myself for worst case scenario with DD.
Star I wouldn’t worry to much, I oed cd21 last month because I started swaying or something went crazy. I’d stick to the cheapie opks. They seem more reliable right now. Looking at them, they’re not as dark/darker than test line yet. I’ve seen some say (online) they got the solid smiley sometimes after 6-8 flashing ones. It’s great that you have the other 2 (bbt and digis) to fall back on for confirmation. (Me channeling my pbn3.How did I do? [emoji39][emoji4][emoji4])

[Eighme]

[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Eighme that’s one strong willed lad you have there. Has to have what he wants. Hopefully all goes well trying to get him back. In the meantime I’ll brace myself for worst case scenario with DD.
Star I wouldn’t worry to much, I oed cd21 last month because I started swaying or something went crazy. I’d stick to the cheapie opks. They seem more reliable right now. Looking at them, they’re not as dark/darker than test line yet. I’ve seen some say (online) they got the solid smiley sometimes after 6-8 flashing ones. It’s great that you have the other 2 (bbt and digis) to fall back on for confirmation. (Me channeling my pbn3.How did I do? [emoji39][emoji4][emoji4])You did fabulous channeling Pbn!

He is a very strong willed... lets hope he will tolerate a sibling okay.

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[Mommy2apples]

Ladies the cycle i conceived, the second day of a flashing smileys, I started doing my opk at night too. I got my solid smiley about 7pm at night.


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[Star4012]

Lol you did great! Thanks... it's reassuring me some that you've O'd late before! When I click 'charts like mine' in Fertility Friend, it shows annaovulatory charts. =/ if I don't happy to O by the time AF is due, I'm going to call my doc.

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[Filzma]

Star usually when I’m nervous about something, or it’s weighing on me... I just ask myself what the worst case scenario is. Most times I end up realising its never that serious.[emoji6]
Right now, WCS is that you don’t o this cycle. It could mean that your body is getting used to the clomid and might take a cycle or 2 to settle down.
Just take it one day at a time. The great thing is there’s progression with your IC opks!! Mine last month I seriously thought I’d oed cd 8, 14, 17, 19,20 and 21! Lol I diagnosed myself in one thread to atomic saying I have PCOS, how should I sway. Made an appointment with GP for a cd21 blood (which I keep postponing). Luckily I was temping and only the rise confirmed I had truly oed cd21. By the time AF came, most people were anxiously waiting for a BFP while I was relieved it had showed.
My point really is calm down, it could just be this cycle or your body is taking a while to prepare. Stress won’t help the situation. I know how you feel. Relax girl. [emoji6]

[Star4012]

Star usually when I’m nervous about something, or it’s weighing on me... I just ask myself what the worst case scenario is. Most times I end up realising its never that serious.[emoji6]
Right now, WCS is that you don’t o this cycle. It could mean that your body is getting used to the clomid and might take a cycle or 2 to settle down.
Just take it one day at a time. The great thing is there’s progression with your IC opks!! Mine last month I seriously thought I’d oed cd 8, 14, 17, 19,20 and 21! Lol I diagnosed myself in one thread to atomic saying I have PCOS, how should I sway. Made an appointment with GP for a cd21 blood (which I keep postponing). Luckily I was temping and only the rise confirmed I had truly oed cd21. By the time AF came, most people were anxiously waiting for a BFP while I was relieved it had showed.
My point really is calm down, it could just be this cycle or your body is taking a while to prepare. Stress won’t help the situation. I know how you feel. Relax girl. [emoji6]Thanks love!! I really appreciate all you girls support. This past year and a half ttc has been a whirlwind of emotions. You're exactly right. WCS is that I don't O.... it's not the end of the world. I just need to breathe and let it be. Thank you again <3 xoxo

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[Filzma]

No worries star. [emoji6]I love the support here as well. Especially because apart from DH no one else knows I’m ttcing irl. We all need a place to vent and offload the pressure. Xx
All the best everyone.

[Eighme]

So, I tried charting temps. But I have a toddler whose in and out of my bed first thing in the morning and I often find myself forgetting. So this hasn't helped me at all (my fault)

So, I took two OPKs yesterday, in the afternoon, one was almost positive but not quite, the second was lighter. I tested today and it's even lighter. Would you keep testing ( I'm going to test this evening) or go ahead and make an attempt as I'm "predicted" to ovulate today tomorrow.

This may not be a very answerable question. Just wanted some input from you lovely ladies.

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[ABC.2606]

And yes... CM was more watery yesterday with some EW consistency. My doc told me that I should O 5 to 10 days after my last pill-- last day would be CD17 and I'm on CD15. Temp this morning was 98.82, still very very high than what it normally is

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[ABC.2606]

So, I tried charting temps. But I have a toddler whose in and out of my bed first thing in the morning and I often find myself forgetting. So this hasn't helped me at all (my fault)

So, I took two OPKs yesterday, in the afternoon, one was almost positive but not quite, the second was lighter. I tested today and it's even lighter. Would you keep testing ( I'm going to test this evening) or go ahead and make an attempt as I'm "predicted" to ovulate today tomorrow.

This may not be a very answerable question. Just wanted some input from you lovely ladies.

Sent from my SM-G950U using TapatalkIf it was almost positive and now getting lighter I would probably get an attempt in asap. When I used the manual opk's I never got a line that was darker than the control line, even though I was ovulating. It would be almost as dark, but then start getting lighter. As such I gave up with those and switched to digital.

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[Eighme]

If it was almost positive and now getting lighter I would probably get an attempt in asap. When I used the manual opk's I never got a line that was darker than the control line, even though I was ovulating. It would be almost as dark, but then start getting lighter. As such I gave up with those and switched to digital.

Sent from my SM-G900T using TapatalkThanks, ABC! I was thinking the same thing . Thanks for your input!

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[Filzma]

I got a line darker than the control last time. It could be that you ovulate later. Like ABC says though, if its getting lighter then maybe an attempt wouldn’t hurt. If it gets darker later, no harm, you’ll have another attempt.
Do you do the 3 hour pee hold before you test Eighme? I think Pbn3 mentioned testing between 1-3pm is optimal time in the morns.

[Eighme]

I got a line darker than the control last time. It could be that you ovulate later. Like ABC says though, if its getting lighter then maybe an attempt wouldn’t hurt. If it gets darker later, no harm, you’ll have another attempt.
Do you do the 3 hour pee hold before you test Eighme? I think Pbn3 mentioned testing between 1-3pm is optimal time in the morns.I think I'll go ahead and attempt. If it gets darker, I'll just attempt again like you said. I do! I started once I saw Pbn mention that.

What CD are you Filzma?
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[Star4012]

Is your doc doing a follicle ultrasound or 21 day progesterone test this cycle to confirm if you've ovulated?

Sent from my SM-G900T using TapatalkNo he hasn't done a progesterone test on me... he set up a ultrasound for the 27th of this month and did one last month too. He doesn't really monitor me.

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[Filzma]

I’m cd16 Eighme and so far opks just getting darker but not at peak yet. I’m guessing I have a couple more days. I prefer this wait to the 2ww tbh.

[Eighme]

I’m cd16 Eighme and so far opks just getting darker but not at peak yet. I’m guessing I have a couple more days. I prefer this wait to the 2ww tbh.Me too! I'm so more relaxed during this wait period than the 2ww. That one drives me crazy!

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[sunstars]

Oh, I need to talk! I learned that one of my best friends is having triplets (one identical pair) after several years of trying. I'm so happy for her, but I was a bit sad, since I've lost my identical twins and can't get pregnant for some reason, and today i was convinced that this cycle was also unsuccessful, although I was cramping for several days, but thought probably it's similar to pre af, and a little bit of discharge I got looked also similar to last cycle. Anyway, I just now tested with cheapie, and I think I see something, it's just my eyes are also inflammated and I wonder if it's true, or it just seems to me, it's barely there. And now I have a cup of coffee in front of me and not sure if I should drink it (I only drank it to sway), and I have to use antibiotics drops in my eyes for a couple of days, and also my cramping is pretty strong, is it normal? Sorry for rant.

I took a photo, but I can't see anything there. Ah, have to wait I guess.

[Girlswaylondon]

Sun post a photo!

[sunstars]

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Here it is, feeling silly since I can't see anything here :)

[Star4012]

38609
Here it is, feeling silly since I can't see anything here :)I feel like I see a vvvfl. It's super light but I see something. Are you able to get a FRER? If that cheap one is picking up something, the FRER *should* give you a clear reading. 🤞🤞🤞 FX girl!!! :)

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[Star4012]

38609
Here it is, feeling silly since I can't see anything here :)This is what I seehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180112/a7bcba6c5ccd043fcaab9f5994e5fa97.jpg

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[sunstars]

Ok, so, I did another one more "expensive cheapie" :) I think it's clearer.
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Well, at least in reality it is quite visible now. So no doubt, yeah!!! I just hope it's sticky one, since i have lots of cramping in the last 4 days.

[sunstars]

We don't have frers here, star, it's still 1-2 days before period, so hopefully everything is on track. I've seen negatives for five months and was always trying to find at least a hint of a line, but never saw anything. I was mentally prepared to be out this month too, so it's bit of a shock!

[Filzma]

Oh wow sun stars congratulations!! 🤩🤩 I think the second one is clearer!! Wow this month is something eh?!

[Star4012]

Yes that last one is clear!! I believe that this is in order--- CONGRATULATIONS!!! [emoji322][emoji322]

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[Star4012]

Finally have a temp drop this morning... still above my normal pre O temps but it's something... hoping I O this month! 🤞https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180112/836bdf77d93293aced6dfab691b16b33.jpg

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[Mommy2apples]

Congrats sunstars!


6/2003 [emoji1349]2/2009 [emoji1407] 12/2012 [emoji1349]4/2015 [emoji1406] 2015 [emoji1356] 2016 [emoji1413] The Lord Answered my [emoji1317] 2017🤰due 2018, would love a [emoji1405][emoji166]to fit into our crazy bunch! [emoji7][emoji8] Main thing is healthy though!

[Eighme]

Ok, so, I did another one more "expensive cheapie" :) I think it's clearer.
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Well, at least in reality it is quite visible now. So no doubt, yeah!!! I just hope it's sticky one, since i have lots of cramping in the last 4 days.I can definitely see a faint line in this one! Congrats, Sun!

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[Babybeaublue]

Yes! Sunstars! I definitely see a line!! Congratulations!!! xxx :)

[ABC.2606]

Congrats Sunstars!!!!! So exciting!!!!!

[mwilson]

Mummy are you still holding strong? Have you kept testing?

[Girlswaylondon]

Congrats sun! Are you swaying pink did you do one attempt?

[mummy2boys]

Congratulations Sunstars! [emoji322][emoji322]
Hi mwilson, yeah I've not stopped testing, I'm an addict [emoji85] I'm still worrying as tests don't seem to be getting loads darker and I'm still on 1/2 weeks on clear blue. No spotting at the moment though, fingers crossed.
How's things with you? Is this your last month tying for a while? 🤞for you so much.
Hope everyone else is doing well and there are lots more bfps soon!!


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[Filzma]

Mummy try not to worry too much. [emoji120][emoji177]🤞
I think I may have oed today cd18. Not sure, hopefully temps confirm tomorrow. Couple days earlier than last cycle. [emoji848] anyone else?

[mwilson]

Congratulations Sunstars! [emoji322][emoji322]
Hi mwilson, yeah I've not stopped testing, I'm an addict [emoji85] I'm still worrying as tests don't seem to be getting loads darker and I'm still on 1/2 weeks on clear blue. No spotting at the moment though, fingers crossed.
How's things with you? Is this your last month tying for a while? ��for you so much.
Hope everyone else is doing well and there are lots more bfps soon!!


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Yes this is our last cycle before a 4-5 month break. I hope this is the cycle that sticks since I worry I wont want to keep trying when break is over. But we will see. CD 4 today. I've started temping so we will see what it tells about ovulation compared to opks. Probably start opks cd 8 and then bd every 4 days starting cd 9. Thanks for finger crossing! Keep us updated!

[sunstars]

It seems I got happy too early :( Two days later and the strip is as light or even a bit lighter than before. And supposedly AF was due today. Does this mean I'm miscarrying?
I was swaying pink, and this is our 5th real cycle of trying, and we did e4d + one attempt, since I was on 3rd month of Femara (for swaying). Before this, we tried 3 cycles of one attempt, and one cycle e4d, and I was getting impatient and worried, since it took me 1-3 cycles become pregnant previous 3 times, and I turned 39 already.

[Filzma]

Sunstars until AF shows, you can never really know for sure. I’m sure it’s hard not to feel down but give it a few days. Sending you all the baby dust possible!

[Girlswaylondon]

:fx: for you, Sun!

[Noemi2017]

Sunstar do u measure basal temperature? That happend to me last month, i had faint bfp for few days and af was late 5 days. I saw my basal temperature wasnt high but also not low so i was sure something was bad:( but till af doesnt arrive there is still hope:pray:

[sunstars]

Thank you ladies for reassurance and kind words.
Sorry about last month, noemy. I hope this month you will get your sticky bean.
No, I don't measure temperature, so I have no idea what to expect, and I never had faint bfp few days in a row. Actually I never saw bfp that early in the cycle (it was cd25 and today is cd27), it's just my cycles are shorter now, and since I used opks, I think I'm 13-14dpo, so the line should have been darker by now. I guess there is nothing I can do just to wait for a few days. Yesterday I was feeling pretty pregnant, and either I'm too stressed or the symptoms have really gone.

[ABC.2606]

Hey sunstars any updates??

Also how is everyone else doing? Who is waiting to ovulate or waiting to test?

I'm at the end of CD6... Last day of Clomid tomorrow and then hopefully I'll ovulate in about a week. Waiting, waiting, waiting :)

[Girlswaylondon]

I’m doing e4d so no more opks but deffo due to ovulate in the next few days!

[ABC.2606]

I’m doing e4d so no more opks but deffo due to ovulate in the next few days!Yay, girlsway!!! Come on, O!!

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[Girlswaylondon]

Yay, girlsway!!! Come on, O!!

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I haven’t been keeping up to date, abc! Did your af come are you waiting for o too?? :)

[Filzma]

All the best girlswaylondon. Xx🤞

[sunstars]

It's the same, abc, faintest line, and I had cramping in the lower belly and strong low back pain all night. I guess no more hopes, just have to wait for "af" (to name it not so sad :)) I just regret I didn't wait and told a few people about pregnancy already I would better not and also I have set due dates in apps, etc. :(

Good luck, everyone, with opks, attempts and tests!

[Star4012]

Good morning girls. I was still waiting to O yesterday (CD18) when I started spotting in the morning... then AF started lightly and came on stronger through the night. So this month feels wasted. I'm going to call my doc today to see if he'll consider increasing my dosage to 100mg. Originally he told me his plan is to do 3 cycles on 50mg, 2 cycles on 100mg, and if none of those get me pregnant, do 150mg for the 6th cycle--- then I would have to take a break from Clomid. The only thing I'm happy about is that I'm starting over and my AF temps are where they should be.

I'm also having terrible hot flashes at night, and nauseousness throughout the night after starting metformin. I've been taking it with my dinner in the late evening. We typically eat around 7 or 8pm just bc of our crazy schedules... Is there a better time to take it so that I don't have these side effects keeping me up at night?

Hope everyone is doing well. Xoxo

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[mwilson]

Cd 6 here. Started temping and it’s not very consistent. Seems like it should be within a degree from day to day but mine seems up and down. Can someone look at my chart and let me know if that seems ok? (Link in signature)

[Girlswaylondon]

Mwilson are you temping orally or vaginally?

[Filzma]

Stars4012 sorry AF showed and with new symptoms. I suppose like you said the positive aspect to it is temps have finally settled down and you didn’t have to wait for a full cycle to get a bfn. Hope you get satisfactory answers from doc. Sending hugs your way!!

[mwilson]

Mwilson are you temping orally or vaginally?

orally. pretty much same time each day and right when I wake up.

[Girlswaylondon]

Do you sleep with your mouth open? I do and I noticed this so I changed to vaginally

[ABC.2606]

Girlsway - yea AF arrived last week... I'm CD7, should O in about a week. Going to start OPKs tomorrow :)

Sunstars - I'm so sorry :( With my December m/c, I had light lines that should would not darken much and then after about a week started to get lighter. It was terrible - the waiting part is the worst.

Star - That's so odd, why would AF start at CD18? Have you called your doc yet? Maybe the new meds have thrown things off?

mwilson - It looks like your temps were just still high the first two days of AF - which is normal and that's what mine do. I normally don't see my temps drop down to "pre-O" temps until CD5 or so. See what happens the next few days but my guess is they will even out some. Some day to day variation is normal and as girlsway said, oral temping causes that more than vaginal it seems, and mouth breathing can throw it off too. But since day 3 your temps have only fluctuated between 97.1 and 97.4 which seems pretty normal.

[sunstars]

I remember your posts about it, abc, I hope this cycle will be your happy one. Yeah, waiting is awful, my DH keeps saying that it is maybe not over, and although I understand it is, but until af comes, I can't turn this page, I will keep testing, I'll avoid alcohol, etc. etc.

[ABC.2606]

sunstars - Oh I totally get it. You always want to keep up hope that things will turn around, and for sure, it still could!! It's a hard place to be in - expecting the worst but still hoping for the best. Big hugs to you!!

[Girlswaylondon]

Eek so excited abc! Good to have you back here with me! :hug2:

[Eighme]

Got a "mostly" positive last week, had one attempt, and now it's a waiting game. I'm supposed to start on the 28th.

I feel a lot more calm this month. Way more so than last. I'm ready to get pregnant but trying to enjoy the time NOT. I was becoming way to obsessive and I think that was hurting my sway. So I've chilled out this month and am just filling my time until I know one way or the other and not stressing about it!

But I still am hoping it's all of our months for a BFP!!

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[Filzma]

Good for you Eighme! I’m way more relaxed this month as well. I’m content with my sway and bd. I truly hope this will all be our month.
I’m taking a laid back approach even with testing - if it isn’t a bfp then my body will let me know. I’m lying on my tummy lately because it might soon be a ‘luxury’.
Wishing all well at whatever stage of the cycle you are. Month of the bfp God willing. <3

[Eighme]

Good for you Eighme! I’m way more relaxed this month as well. I’m content with my sway and bd. I truly hope this will all be our month.
I’m taking a laid back approach even with testing - if it isn’t a bfp then my body will let me know. I’m lying on my tummy lately because it might soon be a ‘luxury’.
Wishing all well at whatever stage of the cycle you are. Month of the bfp God willing. <3That's a great point. I better start sleeping on my stomach more!

I'm so glad you feel more relaxed too! It's made all the difference for me this month! I think my husband would agree too [emoji23]. I was a little anxious and stressed last go around .

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[ABC.2606]

:fx: for both of you Filzma and Eighme!! When will you start testing??

[Girlswaylondon]

Eighme I agree I’m a lot more relaxed this month!

My chart is confusing me though, can having a cold increase temps?

[Pbn3]

Hi ladies!!! I miss you all so much! Just a quick drop in to say I'm still checking charts when I can. Girlswaylondon I caught your last post asking if a cold can affect your temps. Absolutely it can, you may not have a fever but could definately have elevated temps. Alternatively its possible you oed cd15 or 16 if your temps remain elevated. Definately keep up with the bding e4d for now [emoji3] I'll be watching your chart closely over the next week [emoji102]

Star wowsers??!!! What the? Did you do a hpt by any chance?? Prior to taking the clomid or throughout the cycle? From memory I'm sure you said you did? Were you being monitored? Be interesting to see what your ob says [emoji848]

Noemi not too far from o! Are you still doing one attempt at pos opk or are you bding unprotected at all prior to pos opk and just not marking in your chart? Cant wait for 'GO' time!!!

GirlswayHGmama hang in there and I hope the time passes quickly and/or you o earlier xo

Filzma as per pm [emoji8] (didn't want it to seem as though I was ignoring you [emoji6])

Eighme I don't have your chart and cant remember if you're charting or not but hope o isn't too far off! Or are you in the 2ww??

Abc can you repost your chart link?! So excited for this cycle!!

My baby girl Mara is a crazy feeder [emoji30][emoji51] so been dealing with a huge lack of sleep (expected) and terribly sore nipples (to the point of bleeding [emoji24]) from breastfeeding. Things are slowly improving with the use of shields and I'm booked in to see a lactation consultant in Thursday to see what I can do to better the experience (or at least get an idea of how long it will feel torturous [emoji17]) Not sure if I posted a pic so I'll pop one up now but remove it tomorrow so can I request no one quote this post with the picture please as it will show otherwise in the quoted post. Thank you [emoji8]

If I've forgotten anyone I apologize but please update or if there is new ladies all the best!!

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[Babybeaublue]

Pbn she is beautiful! :awe: congrats again! Did you have her checked for a tongue tie?? My dd5 had one and bf was excruciating until she had it snipped. Keep us posted x

Good luck everyone hoping for those bfps to start rolling in! :)

[Girlswaylondon]

SOoooo good to hear from you pbn thank you for replying!! Beautiful little girl I can’t deal!!

[Girlswaylondon]

Also when I went to see a Medium last year she told me I’d get pregnant in jan (not counting on it) but would be weird right?! :p

Makes me nervous because I concieved my son in jan/early Feb!

[Pbn3]

Well ds1 and now dd are both January babies. Their due dates were 6 days apart so they were both conceived the same month [emoji3]

That's exciting that a psychic told you you'd be pregnant January!!! I know some of them are talk baloney but I do believe there are people out there with a legit gift.... was the rest of the reading oretty accurate?

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[Filzma]

Awww, Mara already looks bigger. That’s amazing! She’s definitely is getting something pbn3,but I hope the pain eases and you can both settle into a good routine. We miss you dearly around here.

Oh wow girlswaylondon,[emoji33][emoji33] I have goosebumps already.

[Girlswaylondon]

Well ds1 and now dd are both January babies. Their due dates were 6 days apart so they were both conceived the same month [emoji3]

That's exciting that a psychic told you you'd be pregnant January!!! I know some of them are talk baloney but I do believe there are people out there with a legit gift.... was the rest of the reading oretty accurate?

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She knew things no one else did about my late grandmother! I wasn’t ttc st the time so didn’t pay much attention to the pregnant part but now I’m like oh!! She also said my next child would be a girl but I just can’t believe it I feel like I’ll always be a boy Mum! Lol

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway i believe it��i also called to one woman, she is Medium and now she is working on my calendar of fertility. She write there also if it will be girl or boy��she did this calendar to my friend, they couldnt conceive for many years and first date she conceived and it was boy like she wrote.

[Noemi2017]

Pbn3 your daughter is sooo sweet�� i wish also girl like is yours�� i will do again one attempt at positive opk��im not writing every bd in charts, just unprotected. im sorry u have sore nipples, i remember very well i had also and it helped me pure lanolin.

[Star4012]

Pbn! So happy to see your post! :) Mara is gorgeous!! I love the name!

I got ahold of my doc's nurse yesterday and he is out of the office until Friday. She sent him a message about my concerns and that I requested an increase for my Clomid dosage but she told me that I would need to continue with the 50mg until my third round is over. They'll switch me to 100mg if this cycle doesn't work out. And yes I took a hpt and it was negative. I got AF on Sunday (cd18) and it came back with force! So it's a definite period. I'm on cd3 and plan on taking my 50mg Clomid tonight if I don't hear back from my doc himself by closing hours today.

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[ABC.2606]

Pbn!!!! I was JUST thinking last night about how I missed seeing your posts on this board!! Thank you for checking in on us! OMG Mara is PERFECT!!! I'm still so, so happy for you that you got your baby girl! Sorry about the BF struggles - I had so many issues BF my boys, it can be so hard sometimes!!

Here is my chart: https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6b9cac I'm only halfheartedly checking my temps this cycle :) Started my OPKs this morning!!

Star - hope you get answers soon!!

[Eighme]

:fx: for both of you Filzma and Eighme!! When will you start testing??Probably towards the end of this month! I go through tests way too quickly if I try to get the early detection ones!

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[Eighme]

PBN!!! She is absolutely beautiful with an equally beautiful name. I adore that name! So glad to hear from you! It's different around hetre without you posting!

Myself, I'm in the 2ww so we shall see around/on the 28th of this month!

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[Filzma]

ABC maybe 10/11/12dpo.?We always start out strong and with resolve in the 2ww but you know how it is [emoji16] [emoji16]
I’m keeping myself busy and hopefully that takes my mind off ttc and 2ww.

[ABC.2606]

Yay we'll have a couple of testers starting next week it sounds like!!

[HGmama]

Pbn3--- love love love!!! I second looking up tounge and lip ties. My son was lasered when it affected his teeth coming in. It's the most common reason for poor latches causing painful nipples. Way to hang in there with the shields.

I started my opks today. Hoping for a shorter cycle this time.

My sway is failing. I basically will only have the one attempt to count on. Whoops. Life is such. Too busy to figure out this diet and it's nothing my family likes.

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[Eighme]

Pbn3--- love love love!!! I second looking up tounge and lip ties. My son was lasered when it affected his teeth coming in. It's the most common reason for poor latches causing painful nipples. Way to hang in there with the shields.

I started my opks today. Hoping for a shorter cycle this time.

My sway is failing. I basically will only have the one attempt to count on. Whoops. Life is such. Too busy to figure out this diet and it's nothing my family likes.

Sent from my SM-G955U using https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1f2cI agree, Girlsway. I'm really trying to hang on to my diet but it definitely has gotten harder as time goes on.

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[ABC.2606]

Ok ladies I'm torn on whether DH and I should BD tonight. We BD-d on CD5 and now I'm CD9. I got my first flashing smiley on the dual opks today and I normally have 3-4 days of flashing before the solid smiley. So I expect to get a +OPK on CD12 or CD13 & we'll BD probably 12 hours or so after the +OPK. So if we BD-d on CD5, CD9 and CD12 or 13, that would be an E4D pattern (72-96 hours bet. attempts). We don't *need* to BD tonight, as we'll have an attempt at +OPK and today will probably be too far out from O to be viable, but I know Pbn has said it might help in conception to DTD a few times before your fertile period to get the body used to the sperm and less likely to reject it. But we did BD at CD5, so maybe that's enough?

Thoughts?? I basically have this dilemma every TTC cycle! :) :)

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[Girlswaylondon]

I’m doing e4d so would be CD5 & CD8! So if I was you I would :)

[ABC.2606]

Thanks girlsway :)

What's interesting is that since July, we've TTC-d a total of 4 cycles (feels like more than that but I had to take a couple of cycles off after the miscarriages and 1 for fertility testing). We got pregnant on 2 out of 4 of those cycles (my two m/c's), and the 2 cycles we did get pregnant we had 1 or 2 "pre-fertile period" attempts at least 4 or 5 days before O. The 2 cycles we didn't get pregnant on we did not have a "pre-fertile period" attempt - we only had 1 unprotected attempt before O. So I'm wondering if there is something to the idea (at least maybe w/ my body!) that the sperm needs to get "used to" the sperm first!

[mwilson]

I agree. I’d go for it today too. Just in case. And this way you will have fresh swimmers for the positive opk day. We had our first of the e4d last night on cd 7. We will continue e4d and thinking of adding at positive opk if it doesn’t land on the 4 days....maybe. We’ve just been trying for a while.

[ABC.2606]

Thanks mwilson - yea it definitely becomes more of a dilemma when you have been trying for awhile and just want to get pregnant but also still want a girl! I'm really hoping this is the month, but I feel like since I definitely know we'll have another attempt in a few days at +OPK, I don't know if it's just doing "harm" to my girl sway to add one in today. Bleh. I'd feel better if I knew our next attempt would not be until CD13 but I have a feeling I might O earlier this cycle. I don't know.... I guess it will be a game time decision again tonight :) Maybe if we do, I'll J&D after 5 minutes or so to just to cut down on the amount that makes it in :) :) :)

Are you ladies doing E4D with 3 full days in between or 2 full days in between? I know Atomic counts either as E4D but I'm just curious what you are doing.

[Girlswaylondon]

I started with 3 in between but now switched to 2! Hoping it helps in also getting fed up now!

[Eighme]

Still doing one attempt over here. This is my second month of attempting and it's already frustrating but I'm trying to stick to it. I'll probably give it one more month then switch to E4D if this isn't successful.

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[mwilson]

2 between. This is our 7th cycle and last for a while. I usually j & d after 5 but last night waited 15 min before getting up. Not that this attempt will have any left but just in case.

[mwilson]

2 between. This is our 7th cycle and last for a while. I usually j & d after 5 but last night waited 15 min before getting up. Not that this attempt will have any left but just in case.

[Pbn3]

Abc that's a great compromise to j&d after 5 minutes with todays bd! Then wait and bd again at pos opk. Big thumbs up from me [emoji3]

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[Star4012]

I'm doing the E4D 72 hour version (Example: Monday/Thursday). I really like that one too bc I feel like it's so much less pressure on us... and we don't get as tired DTD as we were in the past-- like it's a job [emoji23]. Had we have been swaying back when we first got together, bding would be no problem and all the time, but with little kids running around sucking the life outta you, you have to make yourself go through the motions hahaha! That's for me anyways. I try to make light of year and a half journey ;)

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[ABC.2606]

Thanks all for your feedback!!! I am soooooo indecisive... I had almost convinced myself not to BD tonight since we did on CD5 and right before AF started (so 2 unprotected times w/in the past two weeks), and I know another attempt is coming in a few days... But then I was thinking that on our CD5 attempt I got up fairly quickly after, since I knew it wasn't going to be viable, so maybe another attempt tonight wouldn't hurt. If we do it I think we will J&D soon after. Ahhhhh decisions :) :) :) I'm terrible at them!!!!!

[mwilson]

What’s the worst that could happen ABC?

[Star4012]

I debated on j & d or waiting until morning... every time I opt until morning. I use soft cups to keep everything in. I had asked atomic what was recommended and she said that it doesn't matter whichever one I feel comfortable to do was fine and that she conceived her DD without j & d

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[HGmama]

I'm doing ed4 every 96 hours version. My hubs sex drive is so low! And our son keeps blocking all of our current attempts. I'm like cmon, let mommy and daddy make another baby.

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[ABC.2606]

What’s the worst that could happen ABC?

Nothing I guess. I'm just overthinking it :)

[Filzma]

ABC, imo a baby who’s time has come, much like the idea, will not be stopped.[emoji16]
Remember also there’s so many factors that contribute to your girl sway other than frequency of bd. Hope that helps.[emoji6]
We all know these things but for some reason when it gets nearer to o, I guess we realise just how much we want the bfp and begin doubting. Thank God for this forum.

Ps: thanks for the chuckle GSHGmama[emoji23]

[ABC.2606]

Thanks, Filzma.

Well we didn't attempt and I feel like it's the right thing... I know it sounds really weird but I think I may be one of those people who finds E4D more stressful than 1 attempt at +OPK!!! I've thought about switching to E4D before but then I find I stress about which day to start it, whether to do 2 or 3 days between, how many hours will have lapsed between attempts, and then I get stressy (like I was earlier today thinking about this) about what if we have an attempt and then I'll get my +OPK like a day later and not know when to attempt again (since my body is weird and takes awhile to O after +OPK). Anyways... I find OPKs (especially the digitals) slightly more relaxing because I know I'll get one at some point and then can we can have our attempt. We DTD unprotected on CD5 and a couple of days before AF so hopefully my body has had enough exposure to DH's sperm and wont fight it off! LOL. So much awkward BD talk on these boards :)

Obviously I know it's a little harder maybe getting pregnant w/ 1 attempt vs. E4D but in our case, our issue the past 6 months hasn't been getting pregnant it's been staying pregnant. I think after our 1 attempt, we'll keep BD-ing every 72 hours or so until O is confirmed.

Thanks for the help all, I love this board!! Really hoping that the end of January/early Feb is FULL of BFPs!!!

[Pbn3]

Abc if it makes you nervous to bd unprotected in lead up to o then you can stick to bding unprotected from o to af to get sperm exposure then only bd unprotected at your pos opk from af to o for your one attempt if that feels less stressful for you [emoji16]

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[ABC.2606]

Pbn yea I think that's a good plan for me. I'm even fine BD-ing unprotected earlier in the cycle around day 5/6/7, it's just when I get closer to day 9 or 10 I start getting stressy about timing (as I've gotten +OPKs as early as CD11!). So I think that's a good idea - although hopefully this is THE cycle anyways! :) :)

[mwilson]

Thanks, Filzma.

Well we didn't attempt and I feel like it's the right thing... I know it sounds really weird but I think I may be one of those people who finds E4D more stressful than 1 attempt at +OPK!!! I've thought about switching to E4D before but then I find I stress about which day to start it, whether to do 2 or 3 days between, how many hours will have lapsed between attempts, and then I get stressy (like I was earlier today thinking about this) about what if we have an attempt and then I'll get my +OPK like a day later and not know when to attempt again (since my body is weird and takes awhile to O after +OPK). Anyways... I find OPKs (especially the digitals) slightly more relaxing because I know I'll get one at some point and then can we can have our attempt. We DTD unprotected on CD5 and a couple of days before AF so hopefully my body has had enough exposure to DH's sperm and wont fight it off! LOL. So much awkward BD talk on these boards :)

Obviously I know it's a little harder maybe getting pregnant w/ 1 attempt vs. E4D but in our case, our issue the past 6 months hasn't been getting pregnant it's been staying pregnant. I think after our 1 attempt, we'll keep BD-ing every 72 hours or so until O is confirmed.

Thanks for the help all, I love this board!! Really hoping that the end of January/early Feb is FULL of BFPs!!!

Totally understand the bd and then next day get the positive opk. I worry about that too. I like your plan of bd at positive and then do the e4d after that. I think I may do that haha.

[Filzma]

ABC I’m glad you did what was right for you. At the end of the day no one knows your body like you do. [emoji177][emoji120]
Catch that egg! [emoji505][emoji23][emoji23]

[Girlswaylondon]

So just to use up my opks I had left I tested yday (CD17 when I always O) because CM hasn’t been watery and it was negative, tested today expecting it to be positive and it’s negative! So now I’m freaking out, this is late for me to not even have a surge! My temps show no ovulation either.

I’ve had a mild cold but nothing terrible, surely that wouldn’t delay it?!

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway everything can influence ovulation. Stress, some cold, some changes in your life style... i normally ovulate cd20 but this month it was cd16, i think coz of misccariage and i gained 1kg:p

[Girlswaylondon]

It reminds me why I don’t like opks! Hoping this e4d covers the bases! :nails:

[mwilson]

I’m doing opk and somewhat e4d, I just like being stressed and confused all the time :bigsmile:

[sunstars]

Another month with all of you, wonderful ladies! Hopefully next month we all will move to another thread which starts with the words "Due in ..." :)
Last past five months I was hoping to see at least a hint of a line... well, now I will be always afraid of faint lines, so 2ww will be even longer for me now.
So after several days of faint lines in a row, I stopped testing, and started bleeding yesterday (glad it didn't take too long). So cd2 for me I guess. I'll just do e4d (approx. every 72 hours) this cycle, will take a break from Femara, and add some alcohol (at least for a few days :)).
GL everyone!

[Girlswaylondon]

Good luck sunstars, sorry about the confusing time you’ve had his month!

[HGmama]

Sunstars- have you found a post about which alcohol is preferred for swaying? Vodka, beer, wine??? I'm eating out a lot this week and I've been have vodka a few times a week with my Pepsi.

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[sunstars]

Girlswaylondon, thanks, yeah, I had two happy days at least and lots of congratulations from all of you :)
GirlSwayHGmama, no didn't find, but as I remember it didn't matter much. I don't like alcohol in general, only can tolerate some wine. I have Martini (vermouth) left from holidays and I like it, but again just a little bit.

[ABC.2606]

I'm sorry sunstars :( I know what you mean about faint lines. After two early m/c with lots of faint lines that didn't progress a whole lot I'm terrified of them too now :(

GirlSwayHGmama - I'm a wine lover so I drink wine but I've read stuff online that vodka and red wine specifically have components in them that lower blood sugar (I think it's resveratrol?), which is good for a girl sway. So while I know the type of alcohol isn't too important I think red wine and vodka specifically are good choices! :)

Girlsway - You are CD17 today? And you did an OPK yesterday and today? I know with me, my OPKs remain positive for a very short time - I think I'm a "short surge" person. So if that's you as well, it would be very easy to miss the surge if you've only done one or two tests. Also - my OPKs are positive at least 48+ hours before I O so even if you had a negative today and yesterday you still could be O-ing anytime now if you're surge ended before O started. You're temping right? Hopefully that will help you confirm O any time now :) And I do think you will covered with E4D whenever O occurs!!

As for me.... I want to be pregnant. Seriously - I'm SO over swaying & waiting :( Negative OPKs today and no EWCM yet but hopefully in a few more days... pleeeease God let this be the cycle!!!!

[Girlswaylondon]

I still haven’t had a temp rise in fact I had a pretty big dip today?! Does that mean o could happen today? I get confused about the dips!

I know exactly what you mean, abc, I feel the same!

[ABC.2606]

Girlsway - A big dip could definitely be an "ovulation dip"! Hoping that's what it is and you see a rise tomorrow!

[mwilson]

Is a dip how you know ovulation is the next day??

[Girlswaylondon]

No sign of o :( really worried now my cycles were shortening with the diet now in either not ovulating or my cycles are longer!

[ABC.2606]

Is a dip how you know ovulation is the next day??It happens in some women - I think the dip can happen a day or two before O or O day itself. But not all women see it.

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[ABC.2606]

No sign of o :( really worried now my cycles were shortening with the diet now in either not ovulating or my cycles are longer!Do you have any EWCM yet? I think I remember that you usually have a good amount?

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[HGmama]

As for me, I usually see a big dip two or three days before O. One/two days before is right at coverline and i have a postive OPK and then day of O is my spike. Just me though....

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[Girlswaylondon]

Abc I’ve actually only just started to get some today!!

Girlsway I think that might be the case for me as I still haven’t had a pos opk!

[mwilson]

Opk looks pretty dark. Should I bd tonight or take another opk later and see how dark? 38650

[Girlswaylondon]

That’s a blazin positive!

[mwilson]

Then we plan to bd tonight and lay there for about 15 min haha. J & d after 5 hasn’t been working.

[Georgia_Peach]

Just wanted to pop in here and give an update on my ivf cycle as promised.
I am on my last day of meds now..
I have 29 follicales right now! I am having my egg retrieval on Monday! Just so pumped at our results so far..let's hope most of the eggs are mature and survive fertilization etc.
Good luck to all you ladies swaying!!! Hope to see some bfp this month!!

[Filzma]

ABC it doesn’t get much darker than that!
Robin so good to hear from you. I’m glad the ivf cycle is going well. 29 follicles is amazing! The odds of such a high number is great. Praying it ends up a straightforward and smooth process with a beautiful healthy bub at the end. [emoji120][emoji177] thanks for dropping by and the well wishes.xx

[Girlswaylondon]

Good luck robin!!

[HGmama]

At the store, rephresh vs replens moisturizer???? With estrogen or without?!?!?! So confused.

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[Georgia_Peach]

At the store, rephresh vs replens moisturizer???? With estrogen or without?!?!?! So confused.

Sent from my SM-G955U using https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1f2cThis lowers your chances of conception.. Just Fyi.
Not sure if atomic even reccomends this anymore?

[HGmama]

This lowers your chances of conception.. Just Fyi.
Not sure if atomic even reccomends this anymore?Very true, I know this is very up in the air. I would love to get pregnant this month. I'm probably just desperate for something that sways in addition to my one attempt and alcohol.

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[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon hang in there and try go with the flow more. Your body will ovulate when its ready xo

Robin awesome to hear from you and with such amazing news!!! Cant wait for your next update [emoji3]

GirlswayHGmama I'd skip the represh/replens. The only reason why it was used as a pink tactic to begin with was because it cut the odds of conception. Like Robin said its not a standard recommendation anymore.

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[Pbn3]

Mwilson that's a lovely pos!! Go catch that egg!!! Good luck and fx fx fx!!!

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[hannahptrussell]

Hello ladies. I’m jumping in with a question. This is my 3rd month of ttc and I am swaying girl. (Horribly I may add [emoji6]) Has anyone had spotting on cd22? Just when wiping. Nothing made it past that. And pink only. And now nothing. Just that one time. What do I make of this? I typically have a 31 day cycle and have a dancing O date. It jumps all over my chart but is usually later than average. (Cd18-22)


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[ABC.2606]

Hannah - so my last cycle (the cycle immediately following my early miscarriage in Dec), I had a bit of pinkish/reddish spotting - very slight - around day 14 or 15 I believe, which is about the time I normally ovulate (and I had other signs around that time that I might be ovulating). I looked it up and I guess "ovulation spotting" can happen with some women, although it's not super common. I've never had it before and it may have just been something more related to the m/c but who knows. Do you think you might have just ovulated? Are you tracking with OPKs or temping?

[Georgia_Peach]

Very true, I know this is very up in the air. I would love to get pregnant this month. I'm probably just desperate for something that sways in addition to my one attempt and alcohol.

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[ABC.2606]

Girlsway - well if you're getting EWCM I think that's def a good sign!!!

mwilson - Yup looks positive to me!!!! WOOHOO goodluck!! FWIW I don't do J&D - I figure # of attempts is more important. Atomic got her girl w/o J&D. When we got pregnant in Aug & Nov, I stayed laying down for about 15 minutes before getting up and going pee - I think that helped in us conceiving.

GirlswayHGmama - Yea I'm with the others about Rephresh. It seems like Atomic really doesn't believe that it does much if anything in terms of swaying, just cuts the odds of conception. You could do an antihistamine a couple of hours before your attempt if you want to dry up CM & feel like you're adding something to your sway - although I don't think Atomic is very sold on that anymore either.

Robin - wonderful news!!! Please let us know how the egg retrieval goes!!!

[mwilson]

Odd question, anyone ever use coconut oil as a lube? Since most lubes aren’t conception friendly, just curious for better options.

[atomic sagebrush]

Do not use coconut oil as lube. Sperm is not meant to swim through oil and both semen and EWCM are water soluble. Coconut oil, regardless of what you read other places online, is not good for TTC.

I would use a small amount of any sperm safe, conception friendly jelly like Preseed as a lube. Larger amounts may sway blue, use o nly the minimum amount needed for comfy BD.

[atomic sagebrush]

Trust me.. I dropped it the second month of TTC my first daughter I didn't get pregnant. Atomic told me it doesn't really sway that heavily anyhow

When we calculated it, the RepHresh (and in fact all jellies) had the exact same results both for people using them and not using them. This was identical to the overall success rate of the site indicating the jellies do nothing to help a sway whatsoever.

[mwilson]

Do not use coconut oil as lube. Sperm is not meant to swim through oil and both semen and EWCM are water soluble. Coconut oil, regardless of what you read other places online, is not good for TTC.

I would use a small amount of any sperm safe, conception friendly jelly like Preseed as a lube. Larger amounts may sway blue, use o nly the minimum amount needed for comfy BD.

Well dtd tonight so not time to order. I have rephresh but don’t want to cut odds of conception too much since we’ve been trying so long.

[ABC.2606]

mwilson yay FX for you!!!

[Pbn3]

Mwilson scheduled bding can be so hard without some help from lube. Whilst the bd that resulted in conception of my daughter was a random, unplanned bd I think the fact I'd had a few glasses of wine and asked dh to give me a back massage (which I never do but was desperate for some muscle ache relief) helped me super relax so when things took a turn during the massage my body responded naturally and I was able to enjoy a normal bd for the first time in a long time. If you dont drink alcohol maybe try a warm bath together? Anything to help relax and let your body respond naturally will hopefully help.

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[hannahptrussell]

Hannah - so my last cycle (the cycle immediately following my early miscarriage in Dec), I had a bit of pinkish/reddish spotting - very slight - around day 14 or 15 I believe, which is about the time I normally ovulate (and I had other signs around that time that I might be ovulating). I looked it up and I guess "ovulation spotting" can happen with some women, although it's not super common. I've never had it before and it may have just been something more related to the m/c but who knows. Do you think you might have just ovulated? Are you tracking with OPKs or temping?

ABC, I did track with OPKs but never got a positive over a 5 day span and just decided to take a break and stop POAS. I tend to over analyze/obsess so I’m not temping or anything. I have a feeling that it could be ovulation OR a heavy drop in progesterone. Ovulating late is definitely how we got 2 of my boys so that is not out of the realm of possibilities. This would be my first spotting this far outside of my projected AF. Thanks for responding!! I have never heard of ovulation spotting. That’s something for me to read up on!


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[Eighme]

Well ladies, my sister in law just announced to me that she's six weeks pregnant. Our sons are already six months a part (my son is two) and now she's pregnant prior to me. On top of it all, she wants a girl as badly as I do. I have a lot of mixed emotions as our husband's come from a family of three brothers and then three grandsons so the want within the family for a girl is real.

I'm happy for her, I really am. I just feel sad it's not me, I now have to potentially share this pregnancy journey with her (if I can ever get pregnant) and she's highly competitive with me as is (I still really don't know why, but that's a separate issue) and there's that underlying feeling of "what if she has a girl and I don't."

Sorry ladies, this may not be the appropriate forum to post on. I just needed to let someone besides my husband know I'm happy and sad all at the same time and it's a weird mix of emotions to have.

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[Girlswaylondon]

Eighme I totally would be feeling the same, my DH brothers wife (my sister in law) is trying too and we both have sons and she wants a girl too and none of the children on DH side have had a girl so I know the whole family are waiting especially my mother in law! I’ll be very jealous if she concieved first, it’s silly isn’t it?

Still no sign of o for me *sigh* :(

[Filzma]

That’s my sis in law and cousin for me. We all had DCs around the same time. Actually, one had her DS 4 days before me using castor oil and had to be rushed in by ambulance. Too weak and dehydrated to push, she had an EMCS. Smh.[emoji57]
I tell myself that, I have the added advantage of actively swaying. So I’m praying we get our bfp this month!!!!!! Have all my pink dust ladies.

Girlswaylondon, that was me last month. Just be vigilant, make sure you catch the pos opk. It might just be an indication that your sway is working and your systems adjusting!

[Girlswaylondon]

Fitzma it’s strange because the diet actually moved my o date forward for 3 Months which I took as a good sign but this month it’s later than ever!

[Filzma]

I know it’s frustrating! With the e4d exposure maybe that could have altered the o dates? Just speculating. Can you imagine though what a ‘non issue’ this would be if you got a bfp this month? [emoji177][emoji177] Try focus on that. Don’t dwell on it being late. Easier said than done right? [emoji4] Hang in there!!xx

[Filzma]

The ttc journey is draining! [emoji30][emoji30]

[Girlswaylondon]

Thanks, fitzma it’s true! <3 been enjoying e4d a lot more of you know what I mean ;) :D

[Eighme]

Eighme I totally would be feeling the same, my DH brothers wife (my sister in law) is trying too and we both have sons and she wants a girl too and none of the children on DH side have had a girl so I know the whole family are waiting especially my mother in law! I’ll be very jealous if she concieved first, it’s silly isn’t it?

Still no sign of o for me *sigh* :(I'm so glad to have people who understand! I feel like it sounds crazy, it is just a gender after all. But it's just this weird underlying pressure to have a girl coupled with the fact I actually do want a girl!

I just tell myself that I have the luxury of swaying and tilting the scale in my favor since I am still not pregnant yet.

But man I wish I got a BFP this month


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[Eighme]

That’s my sis in law and cousin for me. We all had DCs around the same time. Actually, one had her DS 4 days before me using castor oil and had to be rushed in by ambulance. Too weak and dehydrated to push, she had an EMCS. Smh.[emoji57]
I tell myself that, I have the added advantage of actively swaying. So I’m praying we get our bfp this month!!!!!! Have all my pink dust ladies.

Girlswaylondon, that was me last month. Just be vigilant, make sure you catch the pos opk. It might just be an indication that your sway is working and your systems adjusting!Thanks, Filzma! I absolutely agree and like I told Girlsway, it's nice to have people to actually talk to about who understand and don't think I'm crazy!

I'm sending major BFP's and pink dust to us all this month

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[Star4012]

Good morning girls! How are you all doing? I am taking my last Clomid dose tonight before bed. My temps are wonky as usual being on Clomid, but hopefully they'll come down afterwards and I'll O. Hope you are all doing well! <3

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[HGmama]

When we calculated it, the RepHresh (and in fact all jellies) had the exact same results both for people using them and not using them. This was identical to the overall success rate of the site indicating the jellies do nothing to help a sway whatsoever.So would it be safe to say to feel free to use it since it doesn't sway? Does it still cut odds?

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[Star4012]

While we are on this topic, what does everyone use for lube? I've never really had a problem EVER until this third round of Clomid. We DTD last night and it started fine but I got dry fast. What's a girl friendly lube (of course a small amt) that won't ruin my sway? Thanks in advance!

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[Star4012]

So would it be safe to say to feel free to use it since it doesn't sway? Does it still cut odds?

Sent from my SM-G955U using https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6d1f2cBefore being put on Clomid, I used only a fingertip amt of rephresh to lower ph and sway girl ...and DTD that night... I ended up with a yeast infection and had to basically give up my month due to the treatment being harsh on sperm. It scares me now. Though, it could be different for everyone else.

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[Girlswaylondon]

Me again ladies, sorry for the constant whining but I’m really upset about no ovulation now, I’m worried the diet has stopped it altogether. :(

Wondering how late any of you have ovulated before? How much does your o day vary?

[Eighme]

Me again ladies, sorry for the constant whining but I’m really upset about no ovulation now, I’m worried the diet has stopped it altogether. :(

Wondering how late any of you have ovulated before? How much does your o day vary?I would say the latest I ever have is 7 days? Never later. This diet has changed my period quite a bit and instead of my periods starting at the beginning of the month, they start at the end. It's been confusing after having the same diligent cycles for years.

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[Noemi2017]

Girlsway my ovulation change nearly every month from cd14 till cd29. When i conceived my son i had ovulation cd9 and when i start le diet first ovulation was cd29. So everything can change it and every month is unique:)

[hannahptrussell]

I would say the latest I ever have is 7 days? Never later. This diet has changed my period quite a bit and instead of my periods starting at the beginning of the month, they start at the end. It's been confusing after having the same diligent cycles for years.

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This! I have had this thought in the back of my head for a while now. I do feel like the diet and lifestyle changes just changed everything for me. Also, I wonder about the psychological effects of ttc. I know that stress has a huge effect on my cycle. I really think other feelings may have a huge impact on it as well!!


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[Girlswaylondon]

Thanks Noemi that makes me feel much better! Just wish it would come so I can start tww! Feel like time is being wasted :(

[Noemi2017]

Yes i understand, long cycles are so boring:(

[mwilson]

The sway hasn't affect my cycle too much, mainly just shorter periods. They were short before, but now only 2 days with a couple spotting days after. I do feel like I O early in my cycle. Like I got a positive opk on cd 10 (yesterday). First month temping so we will see what that shows.

[mwilson]

How to handle two positive opk days? I got one yesterday and then another today. Always makes me nervous that I’m going to miss. We dtd last night at the first positive. 38657

[Girlswaylondon]

BD at first positive, no matter how many days it’s pos for. GL!

[Pbn3]

Agree always bd at first positive opk as you will likely o the following day. You may be minutes, hours off oing from your second pos opk or you may have oed and your lh levels haven't come down yet. Remember day of o attempts are not good timing for conception as sperm needs time (up to 12 hours) to capacitate in order to penetrate an egg [emoji4]

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[Pbn3]

So would it be safe to say to feel free to use it since it doesn't sway? Does it still cut odds?

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[mwilson]

I have been off and on using rephresh, maybe that’s why I haven’t gotten pregnant. But I used when trying to get pregnant last time and got pregnant with her the first try. That’s why I used it this baby. Our attempt last night was not using it so I had a better chance of conceiving. So even though I only used a small amount in earlier months, I didn’t take the chance last night.

[Pbn3]

Girlswaylondon hang in there xxoo

So much can happen in such a short time. You could get a blazing pos out of the blue. You're on cd20 now and oed cd19 last cycle so hopefully it will happen for you in the next couple days. Focusing so much worry and stress won't be helping though and may even be contributing to the delay. Can I suggest maybe tomorrow to do whatever it takes to avoid thinking of ttc and ovulation etc. Go shopping or try recipe browsing online and find an awesome dinner meal to try (if you like cooking that is [emoji12]) go shopping for ingredients and an incredible bottle of wine. Have a delicious meal, enjoy several glasses and take a nice relaxing bath or shower. Bd protected if the mood takes you there. Try not and think too much prior to doing your opk. Expect it to be negative. I know all this is easier said than done but do your best. I promise things will be different within a few days xxoo

Can you post a pic of your opks?

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[mwilson]

Agree always bd at first positive opk as you will likely o the following day. You may be minutes, hours off oing from your second pos opk or you may have oed and your lh levels haven't come down yet. Remember day of o attempts are not good timing for conception as sperm needs time (up to 12 hours) to capacitate in order to penetrate an egg [emoji4]

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I also had a big dip in this mornings temp. Does that happen day of/before o?

[Pbn3]

It commonly does but can dip from day of to several days prior. Some people see a dip then a rise prior to their rise above coverline. Can you post a link to your chart?

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[mwilson]

It commonly does but can dip from day of to several days prior. Some people see a dip then a rise prior to their rise above coverline. Can you post a link to your chart?

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[HGmama]

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2d6163Wow that's a big dip. Anything else going on in life? Sleep? Cold environment?

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[Pbn3]

Did you take your temp earlier than usual? I can see its an open circle.

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[Girlswaylondon]

Girlswaylondon hang in there xxoo

So much can happen in such a short time. You could get a blazing pos out of the blue. You're on cd20 now and oed cd19 last cycle so hopefully it will happen for you in the next couple days. Focusing so much worry and stress won't be helping though and may even be contributing to the delay. Can I suggest maybe tomorrow to do whatever it takes to avoid thinking of ttc and ovulation etc. Go shopping or try recipe browsing online and find an awesome dinner meal to try (if you like cooking that is [emoji12]) go shopping for ingredients and an incredible bottle of wine. Have a delicious meal, enjoy several glasses and take a nice relaxing bath or shower. Bd protected if the mood takes you there. Try not and think too much prior to doing your opk. Expect it to be negative. I know all this is easier said than done but do your best. I promise things will be different within a few days xxoo

Can you post a pic of your opks?

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Pbn, you are an angel, I’ve missed you! :heart:

I think I stress myself because of pcos I’ve been so lucky to be a pcoser that ovulates so I feel like a ticking time bomb! I know you are so right though I just need to relax! I just have such a big fear of infertility, even before I knew about my pcos!

My opks were so light you literally had to squint! I ended up throwing them in the bin out of frustration haha!!

Thanks so much for that post, really needed it. I hope your beautiful little girl is doing well and you are recovering nicely :) also hope BF isn’t so painful anymore! Xxx

[mwilson]

Well my daughter woke up early at 5am so I took it then and got 96.8. I put her back to bed and came back closer to 545ish and took it again and got 97.4. Nothing else is different. Even when I put in 97.4 it’s an open circle so not sure what’s up. I typically wake up around 630 and take it right away.

[Pbn3]

Thank you girlswaylondon the whole breastfeeding thing has improved dramatically [emoji3] she's still a little guts though [emoji23][emoji23] feels like she's permanently attached to the boob!

Mwilson so an hour and a half earlier than usual may or may not have made too much difference. In any case I wouldn't read much into it. Random temps can and do pop up [emoji4] An open circle will happen if you temp over half hour of usual time which is why the 5.45am temp would have been an open circle still. I'd just leave it as is. Regardless of when it was taken it still would've been a dip even with an adjustment. Look forward to tomorrows temp though! We'll see if you fall in the 'average' of oing day after first pos opk [emoji3]

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[HGmama]

So I went to lunch with a friend and at the venue there was a gymnastics meet. All these adorable little girls in their matching bows made my heart ache for a little girl. All of the sudden, this toddler boy ran through the middle of the restaurant. I'm like yep... there's the difference between a lot of genders (not foolproof) but... So many of these little girls were so well behaved and so adorable.

I have a feeling my heart is never going to feel complete with parenting another boy. I have a feeling that I'm going to be a boy mom. I like boys, don't get me wrong. I'm just having a depressing day and thought you guys might be the only ones that understand.

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[mwilson]

So I went to lunch with a friend and at the venue there was a gymnastics meet. All these adorable little girls in their matching bows made my heart ache for a little girl. All of the sudden, this toddler boy ran through the middle of the restaurant. I'm like yep... there's the difference between a lot of genders (not foolproof) but... So many of these little girls were so well behaved and so adorable.

I have a feeling my heart is never going to feel complete with parenting another boy. I have a feeling that I'm going to be a boy mom. I like boys, don't get me wrong. I'm just having a depressing day and thought you guys might be the only ones that understand.

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My son is the sweetest, he is 7. Always has been sweet and loving and gentle. My daughter will run through the room naked and then pinch you if she’s pissed. She is 3. So there’s that.

[ABC.2606]

Hannah hope it was ovulation!! Are you doing E4D?

Eighme - Totally get it. Shortly after our DS2 was born my SIL announced she was pregnant with her 2nd child (her first was a boy). I'm pretty sure after my DS2 was born I had PPD (never got diagnosed/treated), both due to pretty strong gender disappointment as well as DS2's traumatic birth. Well, she had a girl, and I had a REALLY hard time dealing with it for awhile. A lot of feelings of jealousy/resentment, which thankfully I was mostly able to hide from her, but the feelings were there. On the day that my miscarriage started this past August, she and my DH's brother called us up to tell us that they are pregnant with their 3rd. I was like, seriously?!!?! Their 3rd is a boy, so while it sounds perhaps weird/awful to say, I've been better able to "deal" with her being pregnant now knowing it's another boy. Crazy right? But I do get it. I will say though that over Christmas when we were all together for a week I was very much able to play and bond with her little girl and I didn't feel all those crazy feelings I felt when she was first born - so whatever happens I think you'll be able to work through all the feelings in time. But they are normal feelings for sure!!!

Girlswaylondon - hang in there, hope O comes soon!!

Star we don't use lube (as I usually have LOTS of EWCM!) but I've seen people on here swaying girl say they used a little bit (fingertip) of preseed.

Mwilson if you DTD last night maybe just stick with the every 72 hours plan from this point on, until you can confirm O with temping? That should keep you covered as far as viable attempts. I get the stress though - I always seem to O 48+hours after first +OPK.

GirlSwayHGMama - I know several "Boy Moms" - moms who whether they wanted it or not (and most of them didn't) have all boys and have resigned themselves to saying "well I'm just a boy mom I guess". Sigh - I feel like that's what I'm going to end up having to do too - and I just don't want that. I want to be a boy AND a girl mom... And I know stereotypes are just stereotypes and my DS1 is a TOTAL sensitive sweetheart and if I have a girl she may be a total tomboy, but I'm still so desperate to have a daughter. Just one! That's all I want!! :) :)

As for me - I'm getting a little freaked out. I'm CD12 - I normally get a +OPK by CD13 at the latest and I just feel like it's not going to come tomorrow!! What's really freaking me out though is that I normally have TONS of EWCM by like, CD11 or so and I have very, very little right now. Maybe b/c it's the 3rd cycle of Clomid (although I was off it for over a month due to the early m/c). It's just SO weird - I normally have so much and I feel so dry right now!! Also I'm on DAY 4 of "high fertility" on the dual OPKs. I've never had more than 4 days... So "peak" should come tomorrow, right? But where is my EWCM?!

On top of that - I'm desperate to be pregnant, and desperate to be pregnant with a little girl. Why is this SO DAMN HARD!!!!????!!!! Ok - vent over now :)

[Girlswaylondon]

I have a feeling I’ve stopped ovulating due to diet, I have no CM at all. Wondering if this is the case, will I not get a period unless I ovulate again?

[mwilson]

ABC, yes that’s the plan. We will see how it goes. While I am “swaying” girl, I would just like to be pregnant. I do have a boy and girl. My girl is considered special needs (diagnosed with a rare genetic condition abou 1.5years ago). She is non-verbal but does some words and some sign language. So while I have a girl, any “plans” that you have in your head about a girl are lost with a diagnosis. So I would love another girl for many reasons, of course not to replace her but many say after you get diagnosed you grieve the “loss” of child and I get that. So I had these visions of her just like I do my son and now our plans are different and earlier on it was super tough to lose those dreams. My son asks for a brother, he says he has a sister and would like a brother too. So that’s sweet but part still wants those plans I lost back. Sorry for the sad vent, it’s been a morning.

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway didnt u lose so much weight? I stopped to ovulate for 3 months last year but i also drank peppermint tea and took vitex. My doctor gave me injection twice coz my cycles were never ending...60cd. It helped me eating eggs, full fat dairy, nuts and gain some weigh:(

[Girlswaylondon]

I started adding more dairy and eggs 2 weeks ago, think I’ll drop peppermint tea!

[Eighme]

Hannah hope it was ovulation!! Are you doing E4D?

Eighme - Totally get it. Shortly after our DS2 was born my SIL announced she was pregnant with her 2nd child (her first was a boy). I'm pretty sure after my DS2 was born I had PPD (never got diagnosed/treated), both due to pretty strong gender disappointment as well as DS2's traumatic birth. Well, she had a girl, and I had a REALLY hard time dealing with it for awhile. A lot of feelings of jealousy/resentment, which thankfully I was mostly able to hide from her, but the feelings were there. On the day that my miscarriage started this past August, she and my DH's brother called us up to tell us that they are pregnant with their 3rd. I was like, seriously?!!?! Their 3rd is a boy, so while it sounds perhaps weird/awful to say, I've been better able to "deal" with her being pregnant now knowing it's another boy. Crazy right? But I do get it. I will say though that over Christmas when we were all together for a week I was very much able to play and bond with her little girl and I didn't feel all those crazy feelings I felt when she was first born - so whatever happens I think you'll be able to work through all the feelings in time. But they are normal feelings for sure!!!

Girlswaylondon - hang in there, hope O comes soon!!

Star we don't use lube (as I usually have LOTS of EWCM!) but I've seen people on here swaying girl say they used a little bit (fingertip) of preseed.

Mwilson if you DTD last night maybe just stick with the every 72 hours plan from this point on, until you can confirm O with temping? That should keep you covered as far as viable attempts. I get the stress though - I always seem to O 48+hours after first +OPK.

GirlSwayHGMama - I know several "Boy Moms" - moms who whether they wanted it or not (and most of them didn't) have all boys and have resigned themselves to saying "well I'm just a boy mom I guess". Sigh - I feel like that's what I'm going to end up having to do too - and I just don't want that. I want to be a boy AND a girl mom... And I know stereotypes are just stereotypes and my DS1 is a TOTAL sensitive sweetheart and if I have a girl she may be a total tomboy, but I'm still so desperate to have a daughter. Just one! That's all I want!! :) :)

As for me - I'm getting a little freaked out. I'm CD12 - I normally get a +OPK by CD13 at the latest and I just feel like it's not going to come tomorrow!! What's really freaking me out though is that I normally have TONS of EWCM by like, CD11 or so and I have very, very little right now. Maybe b/c it's the 3rd cycle of Clomid (although I was off it for over a month due to the early m/c). It's just SO weird - I normally have so much and I feel so dry right now!! Also I'm on DAY 4 of "high fertility" on the dual OPKs. I've never had more than 4 days... So "peak" should come tomorrow, right? But where is my EWCM?!

On top of that - I'm desperate to be pregnant, and desperate to be pregnant with a little girl. Why is this SO DAMN HARD!!!!????!!!! Ok - vent over now :)Thanks, ABC! We are all obviously here for a strong desire for one gender over the other. I could go on and on about why her having a girl would be particularly hard for me. I think it all just boils down to my feelings about and her competitiveness towards me.

I'm so thankful to have a forum of ladies who have similar problems, issues, just general thought about everything.


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[HGmama]

Thanks ABC, I want what i want. Trying to not be childish and totally millennial, but I know I am.
It's just emotions.

Sorry mwilson about grieving the loss of how you imagined her healthy life. I deal with that on a daily basis at work. I work in a NICU that has a large genetic population.

CD13..... blah blah blah... waiting for O.

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[mwilson]

Thanks ABC, I want what i want. Trying to not be childish and totally millennial, but I know I am.
It's just emotions.

Sorry mwilson about grieving the loss of how you imagined her healthy life. I deal with that on a daily basis at work. I work in a NICU that has a large genetic population.

CD13..... blah blah blah... waiting for O.

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Thanks. But thankfully she doesn’t have any medical issues, just speech and some learning delays. I couldn’t imagine having health scares on top :(

[Noemi2017]

Girlsway ask Atomic but she recommended me drop peppermint tea and also vitex

[Girlswaylondon]

Girlsway ask Atomic but she recommended me drop peppermint tea and also vitex

Thanks Hun, I will drop it

[HGmama]

Ugh FF is screwing up and now scaring me. I have not ovulated. I have not had a positive opk. But it has marked me as ovulated three days ago and that would give me zero chance of conceiving. Ugh!!!!!!! Please FF be wrong!

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[mwilson]

Ugh FF is screwing up and now scaring me. I have not ovulated. I have not had a positive opk. But it has marked me as ovulated three days ago and that would give me zero chance of conceiving. Ugh!!!!!!! Please FF be wrong!

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Is it going off your temps? Could you missed the positive on cd 8?

[Filzma]

Don’t worry HGmama, your temps last time went all the way to 98.1, so I think it’ll readjust once you o.

[HGmama]

Is it going off your temps?Yep. My coverline is 97.0 and 97.3 the last two months so apparently FF is thinking my two 97.1s is post O temp.

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[Filzma]

HGmama, aaaaaah I see what you mean!! In that case, not sure [emoji4]

[ABC.2606]

Ladies - so I just got a negative on Clear Blue digital opk (regular kind) & got this on a Wondfo... the test line is still a tiny bit lighter than control so I guess it's a negative too? Does it look negative to you? EWCM started picking up this morning so I'm definitely getting there. I had a flashing smiley again too on the dual opk this morning (yes - I'm opk obsessed!!!) :) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/19100a57b0ec65ee3ea5e6de4d16754a.jpg

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[Girlswaylondon]

That’ll be pos very soon abc!

[mwilson]

Yes looks so close! Take another later in the day and see if it’s darker. If it were mine I’d call it positive. My tests arent gradual, either super faint or dark.

[Noemi2017]

Yes mine too. This is positive for me and when i get it darker it is mostly my day of ovulation:)

[ABC.2606]

Girlsway and mwilson - yea I am nervous that the Wondfo is a positive as when I've done manual opks in the past my lines never seemed to get quite as dark as the control. I went back several minutes later and it was as dark - but I guess that doesn't matter since it was way past the time limit, yea? But the digital was definitely a negative so I'm thinking I need to keep going on that. I didn't use Wondfos the few cycles before this one as they confuse me too much!!!

Anyways it's looking like I'm going to get a positive digital soon though so I'm thinking tomorrow will be the big BD day!

[mwilson]

Good luck! I’m ready for some testing pics so fingers crossed for lots of bfp pics in the near future!

[Eighme]

Do any of you ladies recommend the digital OPK's over the test strips? I'm not even bothering to start early testing this cycle because I feel like I missed ovulation entirely. I feel like I might have better luck with digital... the prices just make me raise my eyebrows

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